Do you still have love for the Freedom Fighters in 2026?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgI7IAkWnmQ
>>153724894FTFY
>>153724991Why
Yeah, will always have a soft spot for em
>>153725426I want sally's soft spot
>>153726052I want Espio to show me where Sally's birthmark is.
>>153726500What could that mean...?
No. Good riddance.
>>153726865Shut the fuck upBoco
>>153724894the satam/archie cast are some of my favorite characters in the franchise. SEGA’s nostalgia baiting will never work on me until sally and bunnie start showing up in things like crossworlds.
>>153724894I hate it because its nothing like the games, there was no task force of animal friends sonic teamed with. I mean its fine to make up new characters for a show but theres nothing like that in the game stories. And they make up all these characters but fail to incorporate knuckles or amy when im pretty sure they existed when the show did but i could be wrong. And its just ugly. At least Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog was trying to be somewhat surrealist like the games in a fever dream sort of way. And it was butt ugly too but if you like the games and see that it makes some basic sense. Sonic runs around with Tails and fights eggmans robots, there are loops everywhere, its some absurdist fantasy land.
>>153726996Ain't happening. SoJ and Sonic Team scorched earth/unperson'd them
>>153724894Never grew up with the show nor the comic, thank god. But I did see the opening to Sonic Underground when I was a kid, and to my 10 year old self that was the coolest thing I ever saw.
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>>153727241Where do you think it is?
>>153724894Always, because fuck the police.>>153726865>Boco with bad opinionswater is wet
>>153724894I ;liked the show but did not like how it totally sidelined Tails. Never got why one of the three main characters of the franchise was almost never there.
>>153727426Somewhere embarrassing to her probably, maybe on her butt? the real question is how did her brother know...
I think it's wonky as fuck (it's an underdog story with a superhero character as the lead) but I like the big furry tits in it.
>>153727533They probably bathed together when they were small
>>153727629big furry yuri baiting titsBunnie Rabbot and Sally Acorn were spending lots of girl time together
>>153724894It's alright, solid adventure cartoon of it's time that the internet called dark just because the bad guy actually evil and the backgrounds are dark colors but it's like any of adventure show really.
>>153724894>I don't care about cartoons from this eraWhy is bro hating on early 90's cartoons? There's a lot of fun shit.
>>153727098haven’t you ever had a dream?
>>153727736Well and side characters were allowed to Die* in this one despite being Sonic.*Nobody actually ever dies they get turned into robots but totally can get changed back
>>153727772not that DIC shit
>>153727966dont you dare shit talk The Littles
>>153727977I can't because I've never heard of it!
>>153724894No I don't miss them. I don't even bother looking up Rule34 stuff of the Freedom Fighters. Rotor did the exact same stuff as Tails. Antoine was just an annoying French stereotype. "Zis is ze way." No I don't want to see him talk with Z's for every Th sound. I do like Sally for her deep voice and sex appeal. But she has been mostly replaced with Blaze and Amy. Bunnie was the most unique and interesting one, a country girl who is half roboticized. But she doesn't even fit in to a world without roboticization.
>>153727629The episode where Bunnie talks about wanting to fuck Uncle Chuck.
>>153728539good!
>>153728918if they just brought over sally in a new game that could be good but shed have to be made different than the established characters totally. Basically let japs rewrite her.
>>153727736She's so fucking hot.
>>153727080>theres nothing like that in the game stories. And they make up all these characters but fail to incorporate knuckles or amy when im pretty sure they existed when the show didShow started development in late 1991/early 1992 while Sonic 2 was still being made
>>153729531And they couldn't be arsed to make music that sounds like Sonic 1 or inspired from Sonic 1 ? instead they kept using the most generic cartoon soundtrack possible?Take a look at Earthworm Jim's video game vs TV Show. TV Show came out 2 years later and they still couldn't be arsed to make music inspired from the video game soundtrack or try to keep in line with the genre of the video game that was ridiculous horror serious parody in the vein of Courage the Cowardly Dog and Serious Sam.
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>>153724894iT'S ACTUALLY FUNNY JUST HOW OFF-BRAND SOME OF THESE CHARACTERS WERE
>>153730469She looks like an 80s character that kids are afraid of until they talk to her and teach her how to read or do her 4 times tableDo you guys know what I mean?
>>153724894I never cared about them to begin with. SatAM for me is a very competent show, but nothing more, it passes the grade but doesn’t exceed it. The Archie comics went on for so long and for with so many writers and forces influencing it that you can only really judge it on individual aspects. When more game characters got introduced the FF’s became increasingly superfluous, which isn’t bad per say in a comic book but the only one I found interesting was Bunnie due to her cybernetic aspect and even then there’s just so much fluff and over explaining that I don’t care.
>>153728918>Rotor did the exact same stuff as Tails.And nobody would know that Tails did said tech-based stuff in the first place unless they knew the Japanese canon, due to how Sega of America kept omitting all mention of it.
>>153727960They also "get sucked into another dimension" a few times. Theyre all but dead, still the characters always whell out the classic "Its okay Sonic we dont really know ~WHATY happened to them, we could bring them back SOMEDAY"Then you read the UK comic and characters are getting iced left and right, and Tails tries to snipe Eggman in an Kennedy allusion
>>153730591Aside from Johnny, who only died near the very end of the run, who else was there? I'm drawing a blank right now.And the thing with Tails was a fake-out, one of those "test of character trials" where he refuses to take the shot and then is congratulated for staying true to his morals.
>>153730635The Omniviewer and Ebony Cat die and so does that dickhead robot Squirrel
>>153730713Shortfuse? He doesn't die. His Cybernik armor finally breaks and he scampers off free again, notably writing him out of the Sonic Adventure arc that ends Fleetway.
What so good about SATAM?
>>153730591>>153730635>>153730713>>153730764Ebony doesn't die, either. She ends up being the one who defeats Super Sonic by merging him back into Sonic. Not sure on the Omni-Viewer, but I think it's implied to still be around all the way to the end.So really, eight or so years of publication and only one confirmed non-robot casualty (Johnny) that comes to mind. Hardly "getting iced left and right".
>>153731800Sally and Bunnie
>>153724991FPBP
>>153731832>Fleetwayfags haven't read their comicAnd water is wet
>>153728918Tails not-roboticizes himself in Lost World; they can always make up some bullshit for Bunnie if they had to.
>>153732257>>153728918>>153730484Bunnie is largely as useless if not more when we already have Omega, Rouge and Blaze.There are no actual Bunniefags, but one which is that lolcow commie tranny tard.
>>153731800Laid the foundation for the superior Archie comics
>>153729673Sorry to disappoint but DiC would have to pay these group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreams_Come_True_(band)So cheap music route they took
>>153724894Yeah, I think they’re neat and would love to see them make a comeback
>>153729686I love a smug Sally with an amazing body.
>>153732381Given how DiC used and remixed part of the games' title theme for AoStH's theme song (no clue if the band knew of it), it's probably more likely that they didn't want SatAM to sound so video game-y.
DiC was good during the 80s when they Japanese studios animating their shows but around 1990 it was getting expensive not to mention losing them to the competition. So they went the Dollar Tree route up to 2008 and it showed in their cartoons
>>153728918Actually Sally was the tech specialist in SATAM. She created a universal translator and operated Nicole. All Rotor invented was some catapults.Rotor was just fucking useless in every medium he appears in. He literally has no reason to exist. He doesn’t even provide comic relief like Antoine.
>>153732549Rotor literally created robots and shit in SatAM.
>>153724894>Blue streak>Makes fries>Sonic at his job>Microwave>Those apple pies>Sonic at his job>Sonic>He's stealing food>Sonic>He'll be fired soon>Sonic>He's the worst cashier ali-e-ive
>>153732564Oh right he created the robot that wanted to fuck Antoine right? I try to forget that episode existed. Still he never makes anything that significantly helps the heroes. It’s really not hard to see why Ian gave up on the guy and made him a cripple to write him out of the story.
>>153732615Only because Antoine dropped a bunch of nails in the robot's open chest like a retard.
>Actually Sally was the tech specialistOh my god Violet shut the fuck up. Fuck off back to /sthg/.
>>153732636I’m not your boogeyman, and she was. It was a pretty common trope in cartoons in that time to have a pretty girl be the smart one. Sally was basically Gadget Hackwrench.
>I’m not your boogeymanSure lol.
>>153732615Weird that Uncle Chuck was also a godly inventor, so even Rotor wasn't the best at his own job.
>>153733486>Weird that Uncle Chuck was also a godly inventorWho also took the role for spying sentient robotized dud and only showed up for like two episodes.Retard.
>>153724894SatAM was shut. AoStH is the only Sonic cartoon worth caring about, which is why it’s the only one people actually remember.
>>153733640No, that's SatAM who had its own niche fanbase, several sites dedicated to it and shit. AOSTH is the one you never saw anyone ever talk except ytpoops until people decided just being a contrarian and taking it as closer to canon Sonic (lie).
They 'ight. I'm more of an Adventures guy, but they 'ight
>>153728918>>153732312>exact same stuff >mostly replaced with>we already haveThe personalities and characterizations aren't the same. Don't get hung up on gameplay potential when the majority of the extended cast haven't been playable in a mainline title in years>Erm... Omega already shoots!Ok, and when was the last time Omega was playable in a major non-olympic/racing/mobile game? 06? 20th anniversary of that game is coming up soon.Three separate child characters with the gimmick of flying, each differing in their personalities: Smart, polite, annoying.Rouge and Espio are both stealthy characters, the recent audio drama played around with that and had them interact.If character bloat is an issue, just adapt and lock them into IDW's classic comics they've been putting out once a year. Those are built around 90s fan service
>>153727080even as a kid i found it off-putting because i don't know how you can look at sonic 1 and get a dark and griddy art style out of it
>>153728918Yeah, they've been replaced by sticking their core personality traits onto characters that don't fit them, like Amy, therefore removing the unique aspects that made Amy unique in the first place.
>>153734687Satam was not dark and griddy. It's a very average cartoon of the time period.
>>153724894No, because they fundamentally change Sonic into something he was never meant to be in the first place.
>>153734232Why the fuck would you shoehorn them into Classic's universe when they doesn't even remotely fit? Classic's world doesn't need an enire group of "Freedom fighters", Eggman isn't some dictator that warrants their existence. Fucking christ, this entire post reeks of desperation.
>>153730484Thinking about this further (glad to see the thread still up), Archie really did commit a lot of the sins most other ongoing western comics did by giving everyone a ‘background’. I use the inverted commas because it’s not a background to set up the plot or explain a motivation, it’s background for the sake of it; everyone has to have parents, everyone has to have their powers explained, the reason why there are animal people has to be explained, and in most cases it adds nothing or just takes away any interest or mystery. Compounding this is how the comics had to play catch up with the games whenever a new bit of lore came out leading to complete cake and arse parties like pic related. It’s really surprising it took so long for the series to be rebooted. I feel sorry for the people who liked it but it’s always occupied this weird tangential space.
>>153736322does it matter?
>>153736322But enough of dark age, meta era, 06, Boom etc.
>>153736460Because even though I've enjoyed them, the Classic comics exists purely for nostalgia-pandering, even for more obscure shit like Tails Skypatrol>doesn't even remotely fitKeyword here is "adapt". Rework them, redesign them. They don't need to be exactly the same as the old cartoon or be in the same scenario. They don't even need to be up against Eggman as a dictator, use the Battle Kukku Empire for something from a classic-era game. Think of something like a small-scale island invasion, Classic universe makes heavy use of islands, even the comics have one-off locations. They don't need to be brought in as mainstays either, just one-offs for a single comic issue would be fine.
>>153724894Not watching your essay but I do like SatAM a lot. Not a perfect cartoon and not the best representation of Genesis Sonic, but it's fun by itself. A shame how SEGA shat the bed by not trying to merge the elements from it into the main canon, and how Archie shat the bed in general.>>153728918Shadow stole the roles from Knuckles and Metal Sonic and I don't see you guys whining.
>>153737497I don't fucking get the whining about the freedom fighters. Just carve a bit from Mob-I mean, "Sonic's World" and call it Kingdom of Acorn, and have they live and have their stories there.Or just change the context for them. The Chaotix got that treatment.
>>153724894Sonic Forces ruined it for me.
>>153724894I have seen some episodes, they are fine, some even cool even
>He expects an accurate video game adaptation from the studio that brought you Captain Nlol lmao.Sonic fans should shut up and accept their DiC cartoons as their own very early adaptations, instead of judging them based on what the game series eventually became. Mario and Zelda fans don't get pissy over their old cartoons, some even embrace it, the 2023 Mario Movie even acknowledged it
>>153737643The movies are basically the same shit and everyone likes them.
>>153738503They're a hell of a lot closer to the games than SatAM ever was.
I don't care how accurate the show is or not. Still don't care about it.
>>153730713what deluded nonsense are you on about
Loved the shit out of Sonic SATAM back in the day. Among my 90s top 10 even. Yet I've never played a single Sonic game. Oh sure I've taken the first one for a spin a few times but I've never sat down and really put the work in. It's as ridiculous as loving the Mario cartoons but never having played the original SMB.
>>153740029That's not too out there.
>>153740029that’s not crazy to me. i’ve played a lot of sonic but im absolutely awful at it. it’s not as accessible as something as mario is generally. it’s got a higher barrier of entry, even if it’s not through the roof.
>>153737271None of what you listed turned Sonic into a monarchist lapdog.
>>153740029>Yet I've never played a single Sonic game.Might be for the best at this point. Most games past the 2D era is upright trash. Not to mention it's fandom is peak autism deviancy.
>>153737508>Shadow stole the roles from Knuckles and Metal Sonic and I don't see you guys whining.Forced meme and not true.I'm convinced SatAM fans don't even play the games.>>153733679>still saying this 5 years later
>>153724894I want a chili dog and to fuck sally
>>153741506Struck a nerve?
>>153727736cute boobies
I had such a crush on Bunnie when I was like 6, legit couldn't watch without getting flustered when she was on screen
>>153739853I don't remember fat black woman weddings in any Sonic game.
