The Flintstones hasn't had anything new in a while. Despite once being one of the most popular shows in America, kids these days know nothing about the Flintstones other than maybe the cereal commercials. That's how franchises survive, by creating new installments to introduce new generations to an IP and its characters. WB has done that for Scooby-Doo, but not for most of their classic characters, who nobody cares about anymore.WB needs to do something with the brand or they'll never be able to make any more money off of it.
The old Scooby Doo is still actually funny today is the difference
The last Flintstones show was 3 years ago
I don't think anything beats Li'l Abner in this category. At one point it was one of the most popular comics in the world and unquestionably the singular most popular comic in the United States. It coined a dozen phrases and expressions, some of which are still in common usage to this day. Totally forgotten, odds are if you were born after the mid-80s you've never even heard of it.
It’s almost like IP dragons are awful and should be slain and defied in civil disobedience of copyright.Also fuck off Hollywood shill I’m not being your ideas guy for your next gay brown reboot of ‘what the people want’. You ruined Clone High, you’d ruin anything I’d recommend.
>>153730976And it was cancelled before the first episode was even done production.
>>153730981>>153730984Yeah this is like, easily the peak. Even really old stuff like Little Nemo and The Yellow Kid are still remembered as early curiosities, characters from a by-gone era. This is just like, almost erased from memory.
>>153730976>>153730983Yabba-Dabba Dinosaurs is really just a Pebbles and Bam-Bam show and not a proper Flinstones show. Not to mention, no effort was made to advertise it so most people don't know it even exists, plus HBO Max actually removed it from its library.
>>153730984>>153730981According to Gyles Brandreth, Al Capp had a monstrously huge cock. He used to fuck Robin Dalton and she told Gyles' wife about how huge it was.Gyles talked about it at length, pun intended, on QI.
I would argue the HB funny animals overall are a greater exampleThey were the biggest characters for 20-30 years but then largely stopped getting new content after the early 90s, then their reruns stopped in the 2000sSo now they are largely forgotten outside Yogi (mainly for camping and some later media), Top Cat (especially in Latin America where they are huge) and maybe Snagglepuss with gays. Even then those are all niche now
>>153730955Popeye is pretty much a dead IP now, now when people think Popeye they think of the chicken restaurant. I'm still mad that they cancelled that Gendy Tartakovsky movie.
>>153731149Jellystone at least tried to do something with all of the old HB characters, but it never aired on Cartoon Network, instead being an HBO Max exclusive and it barely got any promotion, which severely limited its reach. They didn't even bother giving it a merch line which shows how little WB cared.
>>153731149Wally gator was nice, apparently people remember maguila gorilla more though.
>>153731149The 90s saw a big shift with most childrens' cartoons with talking animals being replaced by those with human characters
>>153731155Why was it cancelled though?It makes no sense to me.
>>153731139 Fucking love his anecdotes.Like this one about his anniversary in Barbados: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=180&v=193_W3ms1BA
>>153731173>They didn't even bother giving it a merch line which shows how little WB cared.To be fair, most modern cartoons don't get merch for some reason.
>>153730955>Despite once being one of the most popular shows in America, kids these days know nothing about the Flintstones other than maybe the cereal commercials.Because the premie of flintstones is really just honeymooners but in the stone age. The way flintstones is inherently structured is more like a sitcom made for adults then for children. As much as i hate scooby doo and think its overrated shit, its characters and premise are far more conducive to being enjoyed for children then flintstones ever could be. The fact flintstones was ever as huge as it was decades ago is amazing to me since it was actually meant to be one of the first adult cartoon originally and wasnt really made with kids in mind for its audience. >>153730969>The old Scooby Doo is still actually funny today is the difference>one million jokes about shaggy eating large sandwiches and scoob sounding like a retard with a speech impediment and running around like a spastic from some fake monster that always turns out to be some disgruntled postal worker or something by the endThe show was always fucking shit, i never found the appeal of scoobert dog and the mystery kids yet it somehow unfortunately is one of the most enduring animated franchises even after all these years.>>153730981I always love hearing about lil abner and how it was apparently one of the biggest comics in its day but no one even knows about it now. Its frankly bizarre
>>153730955The DC Flintstones comic is a perfect blueprint for how to update the Flintstones to the modern day. If they ever make a new Flintstones movie or whatever, I hope they take some inspiration from it, though I doubt they will since licensed comics never get any respect.
>>153730955Flintstones has been overtaken by the Simpsons. There’s no more relevance to them and the IP should die out with the boomers.
>>153730955Dick Tracy, it doesn't help that the actor who played Dick Tracy in the 90s movie is hoarding the rights and preventing any other adaptation from being made out of spite.
>>153731460>it doesn't help that the actor who played Dick Tracy in the 90s movie is hoarding the rights and preventing any other adaptation from being made out of spite.Really? Warren baetty is doing that? What a dick
>>153731476Yes, every few years he makes a TV program of himself doing an interview in-character as Dick Tracy in order to meet the bare minimum requirements for him to keep the rights.
>>153731013>not a proper Flinstones showIt was still A Flintstones show, a way to keep the brand alive, even if it ultimately failed.>no effort was made to advertise it so most people don't know it even exists, plus HBO Max actually removed it from its library.This is a stronger argument, for a long time I thought the show was canceled and never even came out.
>>153731535>Yes, every few years he makes a TV program of himself doing an interview in-character as Dick Tracy in order to meet the bare minimum requirements for him to keep the rights.Geez warren beatty sounds like he has chris chan levels of autism
>>153731535In hollywood they call that protecting an ipMakes sense for them because they see ip hawks ready to exploit any good idea
>>153731205leading theory is they dumped it for the emoji movie. don't know if that's been deconfirmed or not though
>>153731155The latest comics looked good but was up its own ass with endless talking and lore nobody gave a shit about. It tried to be like manga and mostly copied the worst aspects of it.
>>153731567>In hollywood they call that protecting an ipSounds More like sitting on and hoarding an IP to me
>>153731644Sometimes, deads better.Also the comic is still running and isn't half bad.
>>153731205>>153731592It was because of a corporate shakeup that occurred after the Sony hack. They cancelled the Popeye movie and then incidentally greenlit the Emoji Movie shortly after, but Popeye wasn't explicitly dropped for the Emoji Movie.
>>153731675>Sometimes, deads better.Oh i know, i had to learn the hard way through shit like the rocko movie sucking or wishing for the star wars sequels to be made since i was a little kid only for them to end up as ass. >Also the comic is still running and isn't half bad.Really? Is it a new comic by like IDW or do you mean the newspaper comic? If its the later then how the fuck is that still going on?
>>153731155He has a small section at Univiserals Land of Forgotten Comic Ips. The main attraction is a river rapids ride that was missing a few key animatronics last I was there.They might be overhauling that whole area with somthing more profitableIt's a Grim state of affairs.
It's crazy how basically all of these "forgotten" IPs were still in the public conscious because of reruns, which suddenly stopped across the board on multiple networks all in the mid-00s. What the fuck happened then? Why did multiple networks seem to universally agree to stop airing their old properties? It's not like it cost them anything more, they already owned them and had decades of programming backlogs to choose from.
>>153731711It's a "newspaper" comic and it's posted every week in the Sunday Funnies thread.Not as good as Flash Gordon but better than what they did to Mark Trail.
>>153730955Scoob! was their attempt to bring back their old IPs, but they were too eager and fumbled the movie hard.
>>153731535>>153731565https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdFbiRK-UaYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0jU1WSf89k
>>153730955>Flintstones>deadIt's alive because some Swedish fuck yelled GRAND DAD??? FLEENTSTONES???
>>153731741>which suddenly stopped across the board on multiple networks all in the mid-00s. What the fuck happened then? Why did multiple networks seem to universally agree to stop airing their old properties? I noticed that too as a kid back then. It seems it was a combination of alot of these kids channels having more of a backlog of newer shows that may have already ended but they still wanted to rerun them more (ren and stimpy, dexters lab, aaah real monsters, etc), and also i imagine the networks wanting to push more currently running programming in reruns, and last but not least im sure also that the ratings for the reruns of really old cartoons like flintstones and popeye just werent as good as the re-airings of more modern toons and couldnt compete. While i think some old cartoons definitely hold up still like looney tunes has, flintstones really hasnt. Most of hannah barbera's old shows were fucking shit for the most part and even as a kid i thought that way too so i imagine because of other kids sharing a similar opinion to me about the old HB cartoons was the impetus for ridding most of them from the catalogue. Its why shit like the yogi bear movie from 2010 bombed spectacularly too, no one under the age of 50 gives a shit about those characters anymore.
>>153731808WE LOVE FORTNITEWE LOVE FORTNITEWE LOVE FORTNITE
>>153731808The thought that an entire generation of people might only know of The Flintstones through the context of 7 Grand Dad memes is really funny to me.
>>153731365If this thread is still up when I come back from work, I'll prove why Shaggy should be the bottom.
>>153731848>If this thread is still up when I come back from work, I'll prove why Shaggy should be the bottom.How long until you get off work? Also should i be worried?
>>153731741I argue it stopped in the mid-90s. It used to be that I could catch a Flintstones rerun or a block of Tom & Jerry shorts on an early morning when home sick from school, and Cartoon Express on USA was a frequent thing I looked forward to. Then Cartoon Network was first aired and suddenly every broadcast network and even other cable networks were no longer running old WB and H-B cartoons.
>>153730982No one wants to do anything with these forgotten IPs though, and on the off chance they do I wouldn’t expect anything that would be good or popular
>>153731155>Popeye is pretty much a dead IP now100% incorrect. Popeye is not a cartoon character he is a comic strip character. The comic strip is still in production, the brand is still alive.
>>153731741Ted Turner bought the whole back log of Lt and HB cartoons. They originally filled time on Cartoon Network then became its own channel in Boomerang.Nowadays zoomers and Gen alpha don’t give two shits about them unfortunately because of streaming.
>>153731750There are also licensed comic books.
I thought the mid-90s cartoon (pic related) was decent but it only got 2 seasons. The only things Felix has been in since then were apparently a Japanese toddler show and a direct-to-video Christmas special in 2004.
>>153730955>>153731741Obligatory.
>>153732282Post the one where the TMNT voice actors autograph and mock the ad for how the franchise ironically outlived those shows.
>>153732282>pretending that dennis the fucking menace is an eternal IP cartoon The sheer fucking hubris of these boomer execs back then greatly astounds me
>Not a single mention of The Jetsons so far ITTDamn.Jetsons is an neat bit of cartoon history. Real technology is turning out to be very cynical compared to that vision of 60s futurism...
>>153730955Anything from Glitch
>>153732366 Dennis the Menace was the only one getting a new cartoon out of the three at the time(unless you count the Flntstones kids) so it's ironically the closest one to a relavent property at the time. The live action movie would be a few years later, too.I think a lot of people take the ad at face value waaay too seriously. It's marketing. You have to up-sell. You can't be blunt and say you're not going to get as much kids at TMNT but you gotta air something. It's pure salemanship. They didn't actually believe in the product in all likelihood and I guarantee any one of the execs involved in the ad would've jumped to TMNT if they could have. It was boomers who were making and selling TMNT, too. Kevin eastman was the closest to a Gen Xer involved in it and he's still a late boomer.
>>153731741it makes sense when you realize that the cable cartoon channels started out as ip mills that gradually introduced original programming. as more and more original shows ran their course and became legacy ip themselves they started to push out the ancient reruns.
>>153732282Woody Woodpecker did go on forever and remained bigger than even TMNTIn Brazil that is but still
>>153730955>cereal commercialswhich in turn haven't been a thing for the last ten years.
>>153732886The Program Exchange went on to syndicate Dragon Ball Z, Sailor Moon and Saint Seiya.
>>153731350Market is too frayed and people is tighter than ever with money.
>>153732989It's Brazil. All the south-of-the-border countries latch onto anything foreign and never let go.
>>153731350Because media execs hate animation, theyre more blatant about it now but plenty of cartoons 10-15 got fucked out of merch for seemingly no reason
>>153730955When I was a kid I lost a friend because my dad threw a display case for Flintstones Gummy Vitamins I my friends dad swimming pool as a prank but they just called the cops on him for vandalism and got pissed. GG dad I'm a retard autist I didnt have many friends
>>153730955no joke there was an internal WarnerMedia memo about the Flintstones seven or eight years ago suggesting they be brought back exclusively on OnlyFansthe memo never got into detail about whether this comeback would be hardcore, softcore or just testing the sub-only model for a one-time major IP to self-fund and create new media (as opposed to going the Kickstarter route, which would be kind of embarrassing for a major multimedia conglomerate), but used the phrase "high-quality digital video" four times and the phrase "wealthy longtime fans" twice in just under 500 words; to be fair, when it started circulating, OF had only just started allowing porn on the platformanyway it got passed around a little bit and then the WBD merger went through and it disappeared, probably because the weirdos circulating it were weirdos circulating an insane idea at work and got kicked in the merger
>>153730981Lefty boomers got pissy when Al started taking shots at liberals so they threw the entire comic down the memory hole to spite him.
>>153730984These things were akin to Pokemon in their day. It's wacky.
>>153731173Jelly was fucking awful and I'm glad it died in obscurity.
>>153732191Felix should still be a household name, it's honestly depressing that he's just kind of nothing now. Guess that's what happens when so talentless hack takes over and turns it into sludge for decades.
>>153730984https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shmoowhy do they look like scrotums?
>>153733119Why did Baby Boomers act like Pokemon was some kind of crazy wacky thing that couldn't be understood when they grew up on stuff like this?
>>153733082Looney Tunes is too relevant to do that but making an onlyfans with official porn of some of those characters would do insane numbers for themI am trying to think what IPs they have enough coom appeal to make it viable but is a dead enough IP where downing its image for good would not matter. Hard to find an IP that does both
>>153733223Because boomers still considered "the Japs" as the enemy and didn't want anything to do with whatever they offered, even if it became a losing battle
>>153733112Capp made his money making fun of hicks and then went for an anti-hippie thing and managed to alienate two audiences. The kind of rightwinger he was is one that sort of fell by the wayside for a while. Ironically I think he could've found a niche today, but would've also still would've had his own bizarre leanings. It's strange but I could see him aligning with Groypers.
>>153733112And they’re doing the same thing to Dilbert.
>>153733952>The kind of rightwinger he was is one that sort of fell by the wayside for a while.The man was a lifelong New Deal Democrat he just rightfully identified hippies as insane.
>>153730955Flintstones? Once popular? You got that backward there, doc.
>>153733082>>153733269>official western hentai made of note worthy pre established characters with industry level animationImagine if they did this with SU girls or adventure time sluts like Marceline or PB, fucking hell i wanna live in what ever timeline this actually became a thing in
This thing got:>many theater productions>songs>a radio show>a cartoon series>several live-action movies and shorts>international distribution>nearly 90 years on printAnd now it’s like it never existed.
>>153733223Anime had developed a bunch of unique visual cues and techniques by the 90s, and the first season of Pokemon used them frequently and unabashedly. The last real reference point the vast majority of Baby Boomers had for anime was Speed Racer, so Pokemon's approach to visuals was really confusing to them. You grew up with it so you don't think anything of it, but to them characters having sweat drops on their backs or having their faces become more simplified for comedic effect was really alien.They blamed the monsters but that was bullshit, monsters with magical powers have always been cool.
>>153732282I hated Dennis. Little shit made Mr Wilson's life a living hell for no reason. They also played it a lot. I was getting angry the moment I heard the theme song.
>>153733223>>153733270>>153734342Yeah, boomer animators especially hated pokemon and blamed it for getting alot of the fox kids cartoons cancelled like animainiacs or pinky and the brain, despite the fact that animainiacs was never that good and was overhyped even back then in the 90s.
>>153730955>WB has done that for Scooby-DooYeah and they ran it into the ground.Not everything has to last forever OP. You want the Flinstones brought back? With shit, unfunny writing like with the TTA and Animanics reboots? Let the past be in the past.
>>153732191This series was by far the best thing to ever come out of the Felix franchise. Perfect timing for coming out in the 1990s, I enjoyed it muchly. Should have ran at the very last three seasons.
>>153732282What is this exactly, The Program Exchange? Was this an ad in some animation magazine back in the day?
>>153734637It should've stopped at Mystery Inc. or at the very least, Be Cool Scooby-Doo.
>>153734437I don't think most Baby Boomers particularly cared about what cartoons were getting cancelled in the late 90s so much as they cared about how obsessed their kids were with Pokemon anon.
>>153734714Why did Scooby-Doo, out of all the other HB cartoons that came out in the 1960s and 70s, get this "it must go on forever" treatment with non stop movies and cartoons? I never really found Scooby Doo that funny. Maybe the original 1969 series, but that's it.
>>153734741It just happened to sell better in reruns or when retooled than other series. Scrappy actually saved the show.
>>153734714>It should've stopped at Mystery IncNo, that ruined Velma.
>>153734741>Why did Scooby-Doo, out of all the other HB cartoons that came out in the 1960s and 70s, get this "it must go on forever" treatment with non stop movies and cartoons?Because it was a formula so easy that they inserted it onto other shows.
>>153730969Fuck you the Flintstones is still funny.
>>153734760>Because it was a formula so easy that they inserted it onto other shows.NTA but i dont understand how or why scooby doos formula was so successful. Even as a kid i hated scooby doo. I thought it wasnt very funny and was grating most of the time, and a big reason why i hated it was the monsters were almost always fake which made the show boring to me. Id rather watch cartoons with real monsters and cool creatures in them instead of having EVERY episode recycle the same plot of "the monster was actually some rando old guy in a suit". Fuck scooby doo
>>153731149The thing in latin america is that you still get re-runs of TopCat.
>>153733223>>153733270I know everyone always gravitates to "The Japs!" as an answer, but there's also the fact that Pokemon was so aggressively sold to the US as a product to sell to kids. Yes, there were other things that were marketed to kids that boomers would've known, but the pipeline felt at least more organic. Shmoos got toys because they were popular in the comic. They were capitalized on but they weren't conceived as a product to sell. When Pokemon came to America, it was done so as the show, the game, the toys, the cards, with the slogan revolving about needing to get all of them. Catch them all in the game. Catch them all as toys. Catch them all as cards. Stuff you need to buy. When it was explained to adults it was done under the lens that it was a successful property from Japan that sold a lot that was now marketed to kids.Keep in mind in the 90's before the 80's nostalgia boom, 80's toy cartoons were derided alot as being blatant commercials. So that accounts for Gen Xers like Matt and Trey being skeptical about it. There were still obviously lots of cartoons with toylines sold to kids, but there was a lot of backlash among some adults enough to carve a small niche.
>>153731711Rocko lives on because of gooners
>>153734845>Rocko lives on because of goonersWhat the hell, i always loved rocko because it was a fucking hilarious show. I dont find any of the cast attractive tho except maybe dr hutchinson. Who the fuck goons to rocko's modern life characters?
>>153734901The answer is autism.Just like people that fap to Norbert from angry beavers or think Angela anaconda was a good cartoon.
>>153731644>Sounds More like sitting on and hoarding an IP to meI love Smiling Friends but holy fucking shit that's not how game development (or IP in general) works Infinite resources aren't a thing so if the people who would've made a new installment of something are either disinterested or outright gone, who do you get?Finding a replacement isn't guaranteed to be competent, available, interested, or even existing
>>153734749>Scrappy actually saved the show.You can't be for real. He also died in 1983.>>153734760Why would you make this crappy knock off to compete against your own inhouse show?>>153734819You get me anon.I will say I liked A Pup Named Scooby Doo but haven't watched it in like 30 years so no idea if its still good. Knowing Kennedy animated is a scar, now.
>>153734845No it doesn't? Don't confuse your weird circle of friends with a show's legacy
>>153734959>Just like people that fap to Norbert from angry beaversFucking christ, whyd ya have to remind me of that deviant art pic of some dude pissing on an old norbert plushie>or think Angela anaconda was a good cartoon.I havent seen a full episode in literally over twenty years but i will say the type of animation used for angela anaconda was unique and interesting. I wish more shows could be that experimental.
>>153734901Man I haven't seen greenlexluthor.jpg in ages. That takes me back.
>>153735056Glad to be of service.The sin of Angela anaconda is being boring and ugly. You can say it was experimental but not all experiments are a success.Even for Alice of life or mild sitcom standards the plots were trite and overdone after 2 episodes, 3 if you were on flu medication. It's the kind of show that made you feel punished for staying home while sick because of how boring it was and how many networks aired it because it was dirt cheap to get the rights to.
>>153732366All three of these kept getting rerun in syndication, so yes I believe they were confident enoughPlus like >>153732886 said people don't get this is an ad, Program Exchange was the one selling these cartoons to syndicated channels to rerun them so of course they're gonna say that the shows they have broadcast rights to are gonna last longer than TMNT.
>>153730981Abner had fucking John Steinbeck of "Grapes of Wrath" doing an introduction for its omnibus, that's how big it was.And it's also kind of the reason why Moomin exists.
>>153735023>You can't be for real. He also died in 1983.He's correct. Cartoons typically lasted for a season or two because they make a lot of episodes and have them rerun over and over. 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo ended in 1985 with only 13 episodes, but they were still rerunning the Scooby-Doo cartoons with Scrappy well into the late 1980s.
>>153731881I think it was the lack of reruns of many older shows is why the younger generations don't know about them. I still remember, things like the Three Stooges, I Love Lucy, and Leave it to Beaver.
>>153735016>I love Smiling Friends but holy fucking shit that's not how game development (or IP in general) worksTell that to lego and how they ignore/mistreat bionicle as a brand >>153735023I liked a pup named scooby doo well enough as a kid more so then the regular scooby doo at least. I had a crush on loli velma even back then.>Knowing Kennedy animated is a scar, now.Why is that now a bad thing? I thought the animation in that show was good.
>>153734819According to John K on his blog about Joe Barbera:>I went on, like an idiot to tell him I hated Scooby Doo and all modern cartoons, and Joe said "Me too kid. I've never understood why the networks keep ordering more episodes of it. What is there to it? A big dumb dog and some teenagers. Every show is the same Goddamn story! It doesn't make sense to me but they can have it as long they want it.">>153735023>Why would you make this crappy knock off to compete against your own inhouse show?See the John K quote above. Because the networks at the time wanted more of it, and H-B found out that the networks were still willing to buy Scooby knock-offsH-B wanted to do more stuff like the OLD Tom and Jerry but networks/censors couldn't allow it. Scooby-Doo and the like were "safe" enough for them
>>153732191Blame Don Oriolo for that, Twisted Tales was a production nightmare because of him.
Jimmy Neutron was one of the biggest animated IPs during the 2000s with a shit ton of coverage from the press and had loads of games, toys, theme park rides and an Oscar-nominated movie, yet Nick has abandoned it after 2006. Planet Sheen killed the franchise for good it seems.
>>153735461>Why is that now a bad thing? I thought the animation in that show was good.Because their TTA animated episodes were trash and had that Kennedy dance to them. Who knows maybe their style of animating worked better for A Pup.>>153735472Networks stink.>>153735535Why?
>>153734437Animaniacs was extremely hit or miss, and the problem is the misses were entire recurring segments.Goodfeathers would have been funny if it was a 15 second gag in a 5 minute loony toons short. Instead they made it a series of shorts by itself, running the gag into the ground and grinding it to dust.
>>153735568Didn’t it die because DNA Productions shut down?
>>153735535>>153735797Oriolo only ever wanted all Felix media to be based on the 50s cartoon his dad made (Magic Bag, evil Professor, etc.) and absolutely despised the attempt at modernizing the character.
>>153735932As an opera singer and theater nerd, I liked Rita and Runt, voiced by the incandescent Bernadette Peters. I know most people wouldn't give a shit about those shorts but I did. We can all agree Buttons and Mindy was hot garbage but not nearly as bad as Katie Kaboom.
>IPs>content>We NEED new bastardizations to keep the money rolling in forever Shut the fuck up all of you Dear God why is everyone a wannabe executive now
>>153735988Rita and Runt was good. It was more drama, and didn't really fit the rest of the show but it was still good.But yeah goodfeathers, buttons and mindy, chicken boo, minerva mink, katie kaboom, all that shit was terrible. And like half the shorts with the warner brothers themselves.Good Idea Bad Idea, Rita and Runt, Slappy Squirrel, and Pinkie and the Brain were good.
>>153735988Rita & Runt really only existed to shill Peters' singing career. As her prices went up, they reduced and eventually dropped the segments.
>>153735461> Tell that to lego and how they ignore/mistreat bionicle as a brandLike half of bionicle fans are poor troons. They bought it back in 2014 and said disappointed so they cancelled it quick due to a lack of sales
>>153736260G2 Bionicle was too soon to be nostalgic, too dumbed down to appeal to the old audience and too expensive for the younger audience what with them charging 20-30 bucks for a Toa.Allegedly it wasn't even originally supposed to be a Bionicle reboot, but a new Ancient Egypt theme.
>>153730955I had a dream the other night of a Flintstones game that was like a spiritual successor to Simpsons Hit & Run, it looked so good
>>153732282Imagine if they tried to pull this out with Power Rangers or even better, in LatAm with the Knights of the Zodiac
>>153733270>>153734437oh boy, this was a duzzy last week
>>153735988>hot garbageIsn't there someone you forgot to mention?
>>153736218Is that true?
>>153735932You are just made Minerva Mink never had a chance.
What is wrong with buttons and Mindy?The slapstick was great, good music and the idea of riffing up rintintin and lassie worked surprisingly well.Please don't tell me I stumbled upon people mad on behalf of buttons because they wanted to fuck him or something.
>>153735568DNA was going to make a fourth season but Ant Bully flopping was their death knell. They were talking about reviving it multiple times but with Sheen's VA dead, now they probably never will
>>153735568What's funny is that Jimmy Neutron's Nicktoon Blast replaced The Funtastic World of Hanna-Barbera at Universal Studios because kids didn't recognize HB characters anymore. And then Nicktoon Blast was replaced by a Minions ride once every Nicktoon that isn't Spongebob became unknown to kids.
>>153736892I really don't get how a single movie could doom a studio.Ant bully doesn't look that expensive.
>>153735472>and Joe said "Me too kid. I've never understood why the networks keep ordering more episodes of it. What is there to it? A big dumb dog and some teenagers. Every show is the same Goddamn story! It doesn't make sense to me but they can have it as long they want it."Goddamn i actually dont hate joe barbera for once. His company made the shittiest boomer toons but at least he apparently was self aware on how much they sucked. Side tangent but i hated how space jam 2 prioritized and showed off way more hannah barbara characters then cartoon network characters, showing where the real priorities lie within out of touch oldfag warner bros execs.
>>153736565It's genuinely really funny to me how late America was to the anime game. The "second anime wave" in America was happening basically 20 years after it had already gotten big in the rest of the world. For some reason American executives specifically just thought it wouldn't take off there even though it was extremely popular in countries ranging from Singapore to Italy to Brazil
>>153736920I think there was some other kind of fuckery involved.
>>153734757>that ruined Velma.Honestly she wasn't THAT bad, I only had a minor pet peeve with Fred's trap (heh) fetish. We live in a post-Mindy Kaling world, no portrayal of Velma could possibly be worse.
>>153731624>was up its own ass with endless talking and lore nobody gave a shit about. It tried to be like manga and mostly copied the worst aspects of it.Weren't the original comics like that?
>>153732132Anon, nobody gives a shit about comic strips anymore. If it wasn't for his cartoons, nobody would remember Popeye period.
>>153731155Everyone still knows the Popeye song if they're 25 and above
>>153731794Beatty can still cameo in character for a cop comedy movie or something
>>153737263Pretty much. Nobody cares about Blondie, Beetle Bailey, Hagar the Horrible, The Family Circus, or all of the other zombie comic strips.Garfield on the other hand maintains relevance because Jim Davis is a very good businessman who makes sure they're always new Garfield media out there to get new generations of kids to want to buy Garfield merch.
>>153737021Dont forget about Mexico and LatAm outside of Brazil, specially the one IP that americans still cannot get to work with properly.
>>153737742>Mexico>LatAmAnd it should stay there.
>>153731741part of it was that the Syndication market for animation in the US kind of just dried up for most of this century, we've only seen it recently start back up again in things like MeTV Toons(which itself is part of the upswing over the air broadcasting has had in recent years as people have realized that TV Antenna's are still a thing)>>153731809>>153731881>>153732174yeah part of the problem definitely was that WB stopped doing syndication packages for their older works after the turn of the century and they held the largest block of old animation>>153737021>It's genuinely really funny to me how late America was to the anime game. The "second anime wave" in America was happening basically 20 years after it had already gotten big in the rest of the world. For some reason American executives specifically just thought it wouldn't take off there even though it was extremely popular in countries ranging from Singapore to Italy to Brazilthe two biggest things that I think impeded Anime catching on in the US in a truly widespread manner prior to the 90's were the following in my opinion;1) parental activists hampering animation on TV being anything beyond the most tame stuff possible, even a lot of the anime produced for the preschool crowd probably would have been too much for them(which is why most of the anime that did get brought over prior to the 90's got butchered by editing)2) for a long time for some odd reason people were obsessed with English dubs of foreign productions making the English dialogue match the mouth flaps of the original foreign language dialogue, even though this basically always resulted in said dubbing being awkward, so I assume many companies just thought dubbing over anime would be too much of a pain in the ass for a final product that wouldn't be very good
>>153737263That’s not the point. The other anon said it’s a dead IP, but the main source material is the comic strip, which never stopped production. Everything else is just adaptations and supplemental material. You wouldn’t say Spider-Man is a dead IP if there were no new cartoons or movies, as long as the comics were still being published, because the comics are the core of the franchise. Is Popeye as popular as he used to be? Of course not, and he does qualify for OP's question. But that doesn’t make him a dead IP. The Phantom only had two cartoons and one movie, but those adaptations don’t define the overall brand. The comic strip is still being produced, so even without constant adaptations, it’s not a dead IP.
>>153730955Bringing the Flintstones back would be a rough process as it's no longer just a simple parallel to real life considering how much technology has progressed. It would require some drastic changes to have it match modern adult life, and will probably end up on HBO Max or something rather than cable TV. Honestly it makes more sense to bring the Jetsons back instead
>>153730981I have rung the bell on Abner to my wits end. Abner's descent into obscurity pains me. So many early 20th century comic strip characters have followed in his wake. Nobody under 60 recognizes the likes of Pogo, Abner, or Alley Oop these days. We've lost so much and the fear that leaves a pit in my stomach is knowing we will lose even more. As one anon put it recently, we now live in a time where you'd have to reintroduce the likes of Billy and Mandy to today's kids because they've been absent for that long.
>>153732282fuckass Fred isn't even the selling part of his own cereal anymore and got replaced by fat bitcheshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vcs_gkBO7R4
>>153730982>>153730976>>153730955Frankly nothing new could or should be done with the Flintstones. They did everything across their 40 year run on television. Even after the main show ended they were brought back for spin offs and reboots of all stripe, each failing to last in evermore rapid succession. Even the live action films reflect as much. There's alot within Warner's IP Library I would love to see revisited, revised, rebooted, etc. Thing is I just dont trust them not to fuck them up. Doubly so for Flintstones, which ontop of not trusting them with the responsibility I just do not want a new iteration of. We already narrowly escaped the seth macfarlane series, leave it fucking be.
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>>153730984>Start out as side characters in an Abner story>They eclipse Abner's popularity by leaps and bounds>They become a huge merchandising hit and subsequently become the mascot to one of the greatest Scooby Doo clones of the 70's>Then, as quickly as the mania began, it abruptly ended with total silence>They're now just as forgotten as poor AbnerOne day this will be the story of the Minions. Already the Gru side of Despicable Me seems to play second fiddle to them.
>>153730984Wait a second...
>>153731139Capp being a borderline nymphomaniac despite the wholesome qualities of Abner's stories is something which baffles me even now. I suppose it makes sense considering how delightfully constructed his women were, but I'd have simply never guessed it if I hadnt read about it myself.Why were so many golden agers such horndogs? Even Tezuka was something of a pervert lothario. I remember hearing something about the GeGeGe No Kitaro guy being a swinger aswell. Hell even Ditko and Wood had some investment in BDSM circles, not to mention the creator of Wonder Woman, or Siegel and Shuster.
>>153738049God, makes me wonder how much of my favorite media will just be forgotten a century from now. Some of my favorite shows are already obscure as is, one of them literally only exists as shitty rips with fansubs on the Internet Archive.
>>153738041Oh that reminds me, there actually is an upcoming Jetsons live action movie.
>>153731139Al Capp’s dick was so big it’s like he had two legs
>>153731149They're on MeTV Toons these days, broadcasting to a dwindling audience of the same boomers who fawned over them in their childhoods. If you ask me part of HB's obscurity boils down to the abscence of reinvention between the 80's and 90's. Looney Tunes has remained relevant through millenial targeted ad campaigns, animated series, and movies that released across the 90's and into the 2000's. Hanna Barbera's characters, outside of Scooby, didnt get that treatment. The few attempts made all failed, see The Jetsons movie, Yo Yogi, and The Flintstones post the first movie.
>>153731155Popeye isnt so much as dead as he is neglected. People love Popeye, but hollywood is gay and retarded, and nobody with money will invest in the character. Same shit happened to Mickey, Felix, and Betty. Why disney even bothered to "buy" back Oswald I'll never know.
>>153738436>Sega has never and will never make a deal with that guy.Wasn't there a game for the Genesis and Master System?
>>153738436That's gonna be the final step in Chris' redemption. It'll probably cure his autism
I might get pushback on this, but OP's prompt applies to most of the 90's nicktoons roster at this point. I still see references to 90's CN here and there. You rarely if ever see anyone bring up rugrats, doug, hey arnold, etc outside of cartoon autism circles.
>>153738436I wonder what he thinks of the Tracy strips lapsing into the public domain. A number of them were not renewed, and many more will soon join them over the next decade.
>>153738200I can name a dozen examples from the mid to late 20th century even now. The rule of thumb I go by these days is simple. If it cant be found online in quality higher than 240p and it never got a home video release beyond vhs, it's joever.
>>153737021Frankly it's a testament to American soft power back in the day. We were once so incomprehensibly creatively dynamic we could trod over the best the world had to offer without so much as a wink. The last 16 years really threw a gear in the works unfortunately, and frankly, I believe we're worse off for it. Atleast hollywood is getting disembowelled. Anime's influence over American animation should not have survived the mid-aughts.
>>153738541Arnold and Doug go a long way in explaining why millenial cartoons turned out the way they did. All they can create comes down to a synthesis of the sappy, all-inclusive, sitcom writing from those shows with whatever random anime titles they managed to catch on tv or rent from their local video stores. Rugrats however continues to fascinate me as it is a godawful watch even at its best. Muppet Babies did the same premise to much greater effect, yet even it has been buried by the passage of time. Rugrats fans were once plentiful online, I grew up watching them passionately voice their opinions on the later seasons and spin offs, yet they're nowhere to be seen these days. At most you'll just see one or two randos sort of nod their head with a smile at the mention of the series. Frankly, the only bit of good to come from that god awful reboot was seeing the last few rugrats diehards shit all over it.
>>153738561His first dozen appearances were not renewed. He's free to use as is, but I get your point.
>>153738683I only watched a few Rugrats episodes before deciding Angelica was an annoying bitch who'd ruin any episode where she has screentime. Thank god I preferred R&S above all else.
>>153738634Can somebody please explain why Seiya wereso massively popular across SEA and LatAm? I genuinely dont understand it.
>>153738727Can somebody please explain to me why you should go back to >>>/a/?
>>153738471He's talking about Sega not dealing with CWC, not Beatty
>>153738720kek>>153738735If you need that much to be explained to you then I can stay
>>153738479Thats because alot of 90s nicktoons were shit. I love rocko and ren and stimpy but shit like doug sucked even when it first aired and rugrats is EXTREMELY overrated. Stuff like catdog or rocket power always sucked too>>153738541Oh shut the fuck up, i love how hey arnold has a cartoony art style while also dealing with heavy topics in some episodes and other episodes are more comedic. Its one if its greatest strengths imo. Not many shows can juggle serious drama and comedy as well as hey arnold did.>And speaking of Rugrats I'm happy that horrible show finally died. Its honestly a pretty stupid cartoon.Okay i agree with this take>Now if only its replacement Spongebob would die as well.Spongebob at least used to be good but its way past over stayed its welcome
>>153738700>He's always been nothing. Felix inspired Mickey Mouse and what is Mickey? A bland sack of nothing. This is the gayest and most tired take I see online, and it's always from fags who've never delved into Mickey's history. Do you know why boomers loved Mickey? Because, Mickey appeared in a weekly comic strip where he was an asshole. Golden age Mickey was a cantankerous trouble-making dick, and his earliest shorts reflect this. Unfortunately the bigger Mickey got, the more protective Walt became, and that initiated his death by a thousand cuts. Incrimentally the character was watered down and sanitized until he was the most toothless mascot humanly concievable. The only challange we ever saw to that effort came in the Rudish shorts, which is why those were well recieved. But ultimately we're watching this exact cycle play out again. Sonic, Spongebob,Mario. All of them are walking down the same road Mickey did
>>153736565>>153737742Americans had Astro Boy and Speed Racer, then they completely forgot about anime until the 90s, when DBZ and Pokémon came up.
>>153738900>Americans had Astro Boy and Speed Racer,Both heavily edited to remove as much Japanese influence as possible. And don't forget what Sandy Frank did to Gatchaman (Battle of the Planets).
>>153738683>Arnold and Doug go a long way in explaining why millenial cartoons turned out the way they did. All they can create comes down to a synthesis of the sappy, all-inclusive, sitcom writing from those shows with whatever random anime titles they managed to catch on tv or rent from their local video stores.Hey arnold at least could be funny sometimes, which is more then i can say for recent slice of life toons like craig of the creek>Rugrats however continues to fascinate me as it is a godawful watch even at its best. Muppet Babies did the same premise to much greater effect, yet even it has been buried by the passage of time. I shit you not, the reason why muppet babies is mostly forgotten about despite being hugely popular when it aired is because its video and streaming rights are a complete nightmare. They apparently used so much footage from movies like star wars and indiana jones and others in muppet babies that no one knows who owns what to it anymore. The only way to conceivably release the full series on DVD or onto streaming is to heavily edit many of its episodes
>>153739308You should probably try to watch pokemon again. It's clear as day why it embarrassed western animation the way it did. For all the flaws you listed there's other things to love like cool battle moments and emotional goodbyes to pokemon. It's genuinely better than about 90% of western animation made during and after
>>153739308Goodfellas is cool because the characters are scum bags. Villain characters are almost always the best, take your moralfag bullshit opinions somewhere else
>>153739308>chatgpt bot pretending to be a "contrarian"
>>153739308The first season is unironically a lot of fun and even watching it today as an adult I can understand why it blew up the way it did. It's very self-aware and goofy with a good mix of action and humor that could sometimes take itself seriously. AFTER that first season though it starts to wear thin pretty hard.
>>153730955>It's another thread full o' deleted posts.>None of them are Famicom's.I hate being the anxiety-type anon when Jannies prunes the wrong posts. It's a shitfest of questionable deleted replies I don't know about.
>>153739410Yeah, in the first season where following the Pokemon games was treated as a bonus and not a requirement.
>>153739443I don’t know why they protect that guy.
>>153739442Funny I rewatched recently and thought it peaked hard in Johto
>>153739443What? He's here?
>>153739490He doesn't really break the rules, he's just very autistic and delusional.
>>153738821>This is the gayest and most tired take I see online,Most people grew up with his personality-less version, and his comics are more appreciated over the Atlantic.
>>153738953I've heard as much for years, yet despite it all, disney has acquired FOX and Lucasfilm. Shouldnt they already have all the rights necessary to give the series an official release in any capacity? Atleast the 80's Alvin and the Chipmunks series suffering the same fate makes more sense considering how small a company the Badagascarians run.
>>153739806>Shouldnt they already have all the rights necessary to give the series an official release in any capacity? I know paramount owns a pretty hefty stake of the rights for indiana jones. Thats what i imagine is keeping it from getting a full release>Atleast the 80's Alvin and the Chipmunks series suffering the same fate makes more sense considering how small a company the Badagascarians run.Who the fuck are they? What kind of a name is that?
>>153740136>Paramount has a stake in IndyThat's news to me. I'd have argued the character is better off in their hands but at this point he's too far gone to salvage anyways. Sad Muppet Babies is damned to bootlegs and VHS rips otherwise.>BadagascariansMy mistake, it's actually "Bagdasarian". They're Armenian apparently. Point is the IP was run into the dirt by Ross Bagdasarian's son and they couldnt afford to release the animated series or movies if they wanted to. Licensing is a bitch. The whole thing reminds me alot of Joe Oriolo fucking Felix into the dirt.
>>153740244Weren't they trying to sell the rights to Alvin and the Chipmunks a few years back? Whatever happened with that?
>>153740136>>153740244I could be wrong, but didn’t Paramount actively assist in the production of the first four films, unlike FOX’s more hands off approach with Star Wars?
>>153740244>That's news to me. I'd have argued the character is better off in their hands but at this point he's too far gone to salvage anyways. Without ford playing indiana jones the whole franchise is simply better off as a dead IP imo. Also as bad as disney is paramounts becoming even worse somehow.>>153740298>Weren't they trying to sell the rights to Alvin and the Chipmunks a few years back? Whatever happened with that?No one even made any offers because no one wants the fucking chipmunks lmfao. I always hated that series those movies were hot ass.>>153740445I dont know enough about the behind the scenes production of indiana jones to even comment
>>153740520>I always hated that series those movies were hot ass.I feel the same, I wanted David Cross to kill them in those movieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e0-rDSPmw4
The Shadow>most popular pulp magazine when pulps were big>most popular radio show when radio was king>a very popular comic book when comics started getting populara 25 year stretch of being one of the most popular fiction characters and no one remembers him now. The 1994 film is mostly forgotten and mentioned alongside Phantom and Rocketeer as the 30's throwback trilogy. Shadow was probably the most popular pulp character since Sherlock Holmes but now the only pulp magazine character that people know is Conan who was forgotten for decades.
>>153730981>It coined a dozen phrases and expressions, some of which are still in common usage to this daycan any lil' abner experts enlighten me on this? which phrases and expressions was this guy talking about?
People pretend to care about Betty Boop even though she hasn't had pretty much anything since... the theatrical short era?
>>153741073People pretending Betty is hot is extremely sad.
>>153740726David cross was the best character in those turkey movies
>>153741173Her parody in drawn together is hotter
>>153741221IKR? They try to act like her binge eating is "gross", but they knew what they were doing...
>>153741935>Rocketeer is lameKill yourself, shit taste leech
>>153742075>This. America has never really done good on attractive female designs. Objectively wrong, faggot>Though I also take complaint with the ugly ones like Steven Universe which the failures at life here pretend are actually hot.People with terminal shit taste like yours should be euthanized
>>153742172That guy is wrong about western girls not having good designs but DCSHG Supergirl is probably the worst Kara design ever. Zatana is awful too.
As a zoomer, the largest amount of interaction I've had with The Flintstones is throught fucking Siivagunner
>>153742618same
>>153742621>>153742618The show's on MeTVToons and Tubi guys. Figure it out.
>>153740298In short, it failed. Ross Bagdasarian's decision making left the property in ruins. The live action quadrilogy effectively permanently tarnished the brand and the CGI animated series dug an even deeper grave for the property.So now they>Cant officially release the old show or movies over rights issues>Have no money to get new Chipmunk projects madeand>Have totalled the IP to hell and backIt sort of reminds me of where the transformers franchise has ended up nowadays. Really, what can you after you've already done multiple big movies? That's sort of it. If I was in Ross Jr's shoes I'd take the loss and try to make some money off the old cartoons. Some money is better than none after all. I'm sure it'd find a good home on either MeTV Toons or Tubi, or hell, even Youtube. Half of the episodes and movies are up there in shit quality anyways. >>153740520I loved the 80's chipmunks stuff as a kid but even I recognize it's over. God this decade's been so bleak. Everything either dies or gets ruined. It's merciless.
>>153742761I will never understand why they made them actual chipmunks instead of chipmunk people
>>153740871I sincerely believe alot of pulp heroes died off in the fashion they did because they never made consistent enough adaptions. They all got serials, but then what? No movies for over 30 years, no cartoons, no toylines. They effectively stopped existing past the 50's, and even by then they were being kept alive through reprints. Then you end up with clusterfucks like the Dick Tracy animated seried where Tracy's stuck playing second fiddle to a bunch of UPA OCs. It's a friggin' mess! Honestly reminds me of paramount's attempts to make a bunch of Li'l Abner cartoons, but they all boiled down to "what if we made popeye a redneck?". They just miss the point disasterously.>>153740874Off the top of my head I can name "hogwash", "druther", "irregardless", and "double whammy" but I remember there were more. Seriously if you go back and read alot of these strips the characters are infectiously charming. Every panel is brimming with life. The dialogue is alot of fun too.
>>153741073>>153741173Why do anons come into these threads to post shit like this? Is it really so hard to believe that people like Betty, or Mickey, or Oswald? I'm not going to force any of those characters onto you but to deny them their place in the annals of toon history is beyond just disingenuous, it's just plain stupid. I'm a big fan of all the big golden age toos, so maybe I'm in the minority here, but christ guys, pull your heads out of your asses.For what its worth Betty's seen more action than you'd think, she's just not seen the same landmark successes. There've been comics, she maintainrd a prescence in Universal Studios for nearly 40 years up until a few years back, she got a broadway musical. She's not Minions or Bluey, but she has her fans.
>>153742822The chipmunk people approach is more appealing in my book. I feel the same way about thundercats and other comparitive anthro works. This stuff has it's place.
>>153742876strange larp if anons want to pretend to believe no one finds bugs bunny hot
>>153742876He posts shit like that because he's a midwit who thinks the world thinks like him. His coomer brainrot leads him to believe that people only pretend to like Betty Boop
>>153740874>>153742828Sadie Hawkins Dance is another, the Sadie Hawkins Dance came from the comic
>>153742952Kinda crazy to think about how much the Abner musical has outlived the comic strip. It's a bit like Annie in that regard. Annie herself is another example fitting for this thread. My mom had no clue she'd originated in comic strips, let alone how much of a bad ass comic strip Warbucks was compared to the musical version. Seriously, if /co/ actually read comics, Warbucks would be in the running for Mr./co/ year over year.
>>153732191i love how this shit feels as modern as the day it came out. Truly a timeless classic.
>>153730955The Flintstones should go extinct. Let old bones rest
>>153731741The idea of licensing out cartoons faded away in the 90s as Disney and Cartoon Network decided instead to use them to get people to purchase extended cable packagesThen in the mid 2000s they stopped airing reruns as it became feasible to just buy an entire series outright on DVDIt took a whole streaming bust for Warner Bros to realize they can make money by selling the rights for other services to play their cartoons
>>153741173Don't disrespect your great granpa like that
>>153739410who is deleting comments at random?
>>153743991Either it's some guy who is known to start trouble on here and he ended up getting his posts mass-deleted, or he's deleting his own posts himself
>>153737829>the two biggest things that I think impeded Anime catching on in the US in a truly widespread manner prior to the 90's were the following in my opinion;>1) parental activists hampering animation on TV being anything beyond the most tame stuff possible, even a lot of the anime produced for the preschool crowd probably would have been too much for them(which is why most of the anime that did get brought over prior to the 90's got butchered by editing)>2) for a long time for some odd reason people were obsessed with English dubs of foreign productions making the English dialogue match the mouth flaps of the original foreign language dialogue, even though this basically always resulted in said dubbing being awkward, so I assume many companies just thought dubbing over anime would be too much of a pain in the ass for a final product that wouldn't be very goodPeople would blame it on the conservative right, but really the broadcast standards was just the excuse, the more i see what happens with the antis and the localization bullshit, it became more obvious that it is just hatred or at the very least, resentment towards japan in general.
>>153736565For some reason no one wanted to admit World Masterpiece Theater was anime. For the longest time I was under the impression it was either a puppet show or some kind of British miniseries anthology.
>>153737742True. Dragon Ball originally flopped in the U.S.A. when they tried to import the adventures of kid Goku and Bulma but it blew up in Mexico. They never had the American experience of seeing Raditz through Cell before detouring back to seeing all the catch-up beforehand and instead just got to see Goku progress from forest boy to SS3 fighting Kid Buu over about 10 years.
>>153738150> even Ditko and Wood had some investment in BDSM circlesI'm gonna need a QRD on that, Anon
>>153738683I've been meaning to do a Rugrats rewatch for a while now
>>153742761I just want more stuff like Chipmunk Adventure, Alvin and the Chipmunks Meet Frankenstein, and Alvin and the Chipmunks Meet the Wolfman. I love those movies.
>>153743203> for Warner Bros to realize they can make money by selling the rights for other services to play their cartoonsThe thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.—Ecclesiastes 1:9
>>153744274He's probably referring to Ditko sometimes collaborating with Eric Stanton on Stanton's comics.
>>153737021>>153737829>>153738562The real reason Anime became popular in other countries before America is actually quite simple: licensing Anime was much cheaper than licensing American cartoons. America didn't need to license Anime or any other foreign cartoons since they had their own cartoons both new and old, but for countries that didn't really have their own cartoons to fill out airtime for children's programming needed licensing, and at the time Anime studios were quite willing to sell out their stuff to foreigners for super cheap.And even then, France actually had enough of a backlash from parents and other "concerned citzens" against Anime in the 90s that channels actually stopped airing them for a while despite overwhelming demand from kids.
>>153730955Most Disney cartoons that aren't based on movies. Disney just doesn't give a shit.
>>153740871>The 1994 film is mostly forgotten and mentioned alongside Phantom and Rocketeer as the 30's throwback trilogy.I still find it strange that this is what the studios did to try and cash in on the success of Batman. Not more DC superhero movies or Marvel superhero movies, throwback movies to 30s characters nobody cared about.
>>153730955let the fans do porn. it is what makes these ips relevant today.have you seen the daily r34 of teen titan's starfire and raven? it has been 20+ years!
>>153742935But isn't she for brainrotted coomers?.
>>153744702If she was, then >>153741073 would've been a big fan of her
>>153744659Because you don't know what was going on then and you confuse "I don't like thing" with "nobody cares about thing"There were definitely projects and negotiations going on to make Marvel and DC comic book movies before and after Batman 1989, they just didn't go through for a lot of reasons, most of it having to do with cost fears or bad decisions (read up on the history of WB trying to get a Superman film off the ground in the 90s and 00s). And the ones that did go through turned out to be things like the 1990 Captain America movie (which got fucked up by the financing and producer decisions) or the Corman-produced Fantastic Four movie (which were done to maintain Constantin Films' hold on the rights since they got it back in 1986)Plus in the early 90s there were still more adults who knew who The Phantom and The Shadow were than there were adults who knew Marvel characters like Blade or Moon Knight.
>>153738084Makes sense. Fat girls are the only ones who eat that shit anyway.
O povo não tem cérebro mesmo mano pra que criar porno de desenho animado
>>153732282I still think those franchises will still be remembered long after people forget about Steven Universe, Gumball, Owl House, etc. Specially since said franchises are only remembered by porn nowadays.
>>153730955Kids know about The Flintstones because of SiIvaGunner and MeTV Toons.>>153731009They know of Little Nemo because of the 1989 movie and it's 2 games from Capcom.>>153732282The picture got updated in recent years.Here is that picture.>>153732989>>153733047And in the US thanks to MeTV Toons.>>153733223>>153733270>>153734342>>1537348434Kids butchered it and copies of Pokemon Gen 1 and Game Boy Pockets/Colors were cheaper then PS1s and copies of Final Fantasy VII.>>153734437Animaniacs was a masterpiece, along side Tiny Toon Adventures they are the best shows Japan have ever done.
>>153734437>le boomersIt was just the media brainwashing people because japaneses were dominating at that time. Pure business strategy. Then they later ended up trying to copy anime and embrace anime to get a good slice of the money.This still goes on as (((america))) still is trying to "colonize" Japan's culture and therefore spreading through their market and seizing control of it.
>>153730969I do still regularly watch old Scooby-Doo with my kid. It is easily the most watchable cartoon of the 60s.
>>153730955Better this than being ruined with faggotry like that awful jellybeam show
>>153744817I was watching an old news report on the opening of Tokyo Disney back in the 80s, and the newscasters couldn't help themselves and were whining about how the Japanese were making a park based on America but wouldn't but American cars.
>>153744807The Owl House will definitely be forgotten because Disney doesn't give a shit, but I think you underestimate Steven Universe and Gumball.Once the boomers die out nobody will give a shit about Dennis the Menace.
>>153736565DBZ and Pokemon were massive EVERYWHERE they landed, even with anime shows being popular as hell already in some lands.Nothing ever beat those two franchises in popularity. Dragon Ball Super still managed to crash Twitter too.
>>153736039Debunked.>>153744218And when it was brought over to the US and Canada they only cared about Heide and Anne because Hayao Miyazaki (along side Isao Takahata, Yoshifumi Kondo, Yasuo Otsuka and Yoichi Kotabe) worked on them.Future Boy Conan had more of a impact in the US and Canada, and thats because Hayao Miyazaki was the chief director on that show.
>>153744833>but I think you underestimate Steven Universe and Gumball.Never ever saw people discussing those shows genuinely anywhere without porn context.
>>153730955Make a new series where the Flintstones and the Rubbles fall on hard times and Fred decides to become a drug dealer.>Its simple, Barney. We sell these "rocks" and all problems are solved.>Gee, Fred. But what if we get arrested by the police?>Thats why I got one of these bad boys Barney!>Gee, Fred. But selling those rocks wont fix all our money problems..>I know, Barn, that's why I forced the girls to work in the red rock district.>oh dear, I bet Wilma was really mad when you told her that>Who cares Barney, soon we'll own this town!
>>153730955Vinny Vinesauce has ensured Fleentstones won't be forgotten for a while.Gooner culture ensures Scooby will love forever.Jetsons got fucked though, I guess.
>>153730955Has anything been done with Casper the Friendly Ghost in the past decade?
>>153745012He showed up in Harvey Street Kids/Harvey Girls Forever in an episode
>>153744995>t. zoomer who has never Harvey Birdman
>>153740874Adding -nik to the ends of words in English originated with Lil Abner. It's not so common now, but if you've ever seen terms like beatnik, peacenik, etc. that's where it started. Also I don't know if it truly originated with Lil Abner but "Shmoozing" was popularized by it.
>>153735016Nintendo:>Not releasing a new F-Zero for 23 years because new games need new gimmicks according to themAlso nintendo:>Here is the same Starfox game for the 4 consecutive time.
>>153742761>God this decade's been so bleak. Everything either dies or gets ruined. It's merciless.Im with you there, man. The 2010s were fuckiny awful, especially the second half. Whats even worse is how alot of the cancerous parts of the 2010s shouldve died when the 2010s ended but instead got carried over into the 2020s essentially this decade the 2010s part 2. I fucking hate this world and if society doesnt drastically change for the better soon then i hope the nukes fly instead.
>>153735932Animaniacs is super funny as long as you were a boomer critic from the 90s who got all the old movie reference, adult jokes and political satire of the time.It was slightly less funny as a kid who didn't get all those things, even less funny for a kid not living in America who were mostly divorce from all the reference and even less funny as a modern viewer. That is the problem with comedy, the more specific it is the funnies it is for a small amount of people but the less funny it becomes for everyone else. That is why reference humor ages so poorly and why a fart joke would be funny even to a caveman 10,000 years ago. One is situational and the other universal. Animation is an interesting case were you get a time capsule of what was funny 30, 40, 50 years ago but the longest it goes on the more nonsensical it becomes for people with no context.
>>153745132Debunked.
>>153745152Please elaborate.
>>153738087Didn't Seth want to make it like the original and got pressured to make it like FG, so he backed out?
>>153738451So Oswald was acquired back because it was a personal strategy for Iger to get in the good graces of Roy E to solidify his ceo role. Epic Mickey was pitched earlier to him with that character included, so they had something to put him in right away, but it was ultimately a PR move.Regardless, while Disney has not done much with Oswald they still have done a remarkable job reviving interest in the character. Even if the Disney marketing machine plays a role he has an actual hardcore fanbase now and sells merch and gets a lot of online content. Which remember he came from literally no value in his last Universal days and only some deep animation fans knew him, so this turnaround is very impressive.Feels like the d+ show next year will push him into the mainstream. Oswald should be looked at how to revive a character slowly over 20 years with traits people are into instead of trying to force it as a thing at once
>>153745066Moar liek Boomer who tuned out before that harvey thing even existed.
>>153745189It won't, since it came from the same studio as Klaus which was so bad it made Space Jam 2 look good, and people never want to touch anything made by that studio ever again after getting burned by Klaus.
>>153745209Pretending to be over 60 is something only a zoomer would try.
>>153745215They are not writing the thing
>>153745255Yes they are, they won the bid to do this Oswald show.Thats why you should worry.
>>153745215Klaus was bad? I thought it was generally well-received.
>>153730955Wacky Races. Dick Dastardly still pops up in things like Scoob, but the rest of the Wacky Racers would be unrecognizable to Gen Alpha.
>>153745279No it wasn't, everyone hated it as it was extremely predicable, bland, generic and most of the work was done in South Korea and The Philippines.Even Space Jam 2 was better received then Klaus.
>>153745279Just ignore him, he's very obviously a baiting idiot hoping to be the next board schizo. As if this place wasn't filled to the brim with those already.
>>153745353No, you must pay attention to him because he is the only one here that knows what he is talking about.
>>153745085There are only 2 good starfox games, 3 if we are being generous.They are kind of stuck with it as a foundation block if they want to start the franchise again.I'd personally just make a sequel without caring about anything else before or after but they seem to want a consistent tone on it for some reason. There was always some level of corporate autism with star fox as a franchise.
>>153745279>>153745215>hating klauscontrarian.
>>153745454>beford jukpingHoly esl, Batman!
>>153745391The movie just sucked.
>>153745226You got problems, you sound like someone who previously saw redditors everywhere before jumping on the zoomer fad.
>>153745382Debunked.
>>153744419That's precisely right. I'm from Italy and moved back and forth between there and the US since the early 90s. When Nickelodeon first started up its own stuff, it filmed in cheaper cities like Cleveland and Philadelphia and when they started showing cartoons, they bought Japanese ones before they started with even the Bullwinkle reruns. And why? Because they simply didn't have the money to license American stuff yet but nipple knees cartoons were cheap. And when they started their own cartoon studios? They just used the voice actors they already employed from dubbing Japanese cartoons like Noozles and Maya the Bee.Cheryl Chase, for example, voiced the tritagonist character, Pinky, in Noozles though she's much better known for voicing Angelica in every iteration of Rugrats and its spinoffs.
>>153744836>DBZ and Pokemon were massive EVERYWHERE they landedExcept America. It took a while for them to catch on, and that mostly came down to getting off the shitty 6AM syndication slots and finding regular network airings (CN's Toonami and Kids WB, respectively).
>>153745093The aspect of the 2010's that still fucks me up is how hopeful the first half was, even after the '08 crash and everything else. We were atleast still getting some cool cartoons and movies. By 2014 all that was long in rear view mirror and we've just been abused ever since.
>>153735998>Dear God why is everyone a wannabe executive nowI think /co/ would make good executives.They have exact same horrible ideas as real execs do.
>>153730955Its ok to let things die, instead of continuing to molest the corpse.
>>153744299As do I anon, as do I. Yet as time goes on I know we're well past such heights of culture.
>>153744280The first three seasons are considered the best for a reason and even they can have some gross moments. I'm well aware that much was the point of the series, but sometimes it can be too much. The entire show really is a fever dream across those first few seasons. It's around season 4 and beyond where shit starts to get sanitized that things get painfully boring. I swear the highlights of the later seasons and the first two movies is Reptar. If not for Reptar I wouldnt have bothered sitting through any of it.
>>153745652 >The aspect of the 2010's that still fucks me up is how hopeful the first half was, even after the '08 crash and everything else. We were atleast still getting some cool cartoons and movies.Oh buddy i am SO with you there. Their actually was alot about early 2010s culture and zeitgeist that inhated at the time, but their also conversely was so much i still did enjoy and thought the world was improving in some ways such as cartoons and some movies. I at least had hope that things would get better sooner then later.>By 2014 all that was long in rear view mirror and we've just been abused ever since.Id argue the misery of the decade didnt start really seeping until 2015 and it hit completely by 2016. By that point all the optimism and hope for the future from the earlier part of the 2010s was killed. Its weird also how the early 2010s had its own micro culture thats tonally almost completely different from the zeitgeist that was around by the tail of that decade, and unfortunately that same zeitgeist from the late 2010s is still sitting around like a tumor. Of all the eras that had to rot and linger on, why did it have to he the late 2010s era culture/the worst era to end up becoming like a zombie and stretching out way past its due date? I really hope this doesnt become like the fallout universe where they had the eternal 1950s last all the way up until 2070, but for us its just the eternal late 2010s
>>153744782NTA but it ahould be obligatory to mention Darkman anytime discussion of The Alec Baldwin Shadow adaption comes up. They're unintentionally companion pieces at this point.
>>153744833I'll give you Gumball, but even now SU's fading from memory. It's just the same autistic faggots discussing the series now that were discussing it a decade ago.
>>153745708>>153745730Eventually things will change, we're getting there now as it is. I just dont know how much we'll be able to salvage from the ruins when it's all said and done.
>>153745659I agree but also we should learn to appreciate more old media. Not just in a lewd sense, but ina genuine substantitive one.
>>153745763You can just watch and discuss old media. You don't need it to be dragged out of the closet and made mockery of in the form of some dogshit, cash grab modern "reimagining", while some absolute dipshit on YouTube pretends like the mockery is good to be different and edgy, because he'll only be remembered for some shitposts 10 years ago and no one cares about the videos he is putting out now.
>>153745756Im just bitter the best years of my life were ruined by being set coincidentally during the worst era in modern history. I genuinely wish covid killed a hell of a lot more people especially in america because we deserve to suffer plague level casualties for the retarded normie masses choosing to go into this wrong direction for society. And also for the fact that no one is doing anything to try and make things go back to normal again. I hate cancel culture, i hate the orange faggot and his fat mouth that never shuts up, i hate endless reboots to old IP that just shits all over the franchise when they couldve just made a new franchise instead of raping an old one, im tired of the economy getting shittier and shittier and the fact that people arent upset enough about any of this to the degree that they should be means that we all deserve to end up dead too for our complacency. I hate my life and i wish the nukes would go off already.
>>153745475You seem upset as you couldn’t even type your response people’s and had to delete it.
>>153738150Anon, most creative people are horndogs, not only in Golden Age comics but in every artistic field and every time period. Being a degenerate comes with being creative, dunno whyTake it from me, not even Lexapro could kill my libido
>>153745852>Take it from me, not even Lexapro could kill my libidoBased post, i swore off antidepressants because they almost always made it hard for me to nut.
>>153745852huh, glad i'm not alone then
>>153745792Do you think I'm arguing for that? We're on the same page doofus.
>>153745852I must be the only one fighting it then
>>153731149Because in the 1970s and 1980s HB kept trying to adapt with the decade regardless of the OOC implications.1970s was Yogi’s Gang with hippie environmental message.1980s was all about greed with Yogi’s Treasure Hunt.1991 saw HB try to make Yogi and friends into “hip and cool” younger versions with Yo Yogi. That failed so substantially that it killed the franchise of HB furry animals before Ted Turner bought all the HB IP
>>153745925We're on the same page doofus.
>>153731860Anon, did you read my post before it got deleted?Some idiot erased it because I used this cropped image that at most showed Shaggy's knee (I cropped it more). Can you believe it?I'm getting ready for work, so I'll repost it later.
>>153746136>Anon, did you read my post before it got deleted?No i didnt sadly. Ill look in the archive. Also that CG image is insane lmfao
>>153746136I read your deleted post in the archive, it makes sense too. Shaggy does seem like the type of fella to be able to scarf down multiple loads at once. Shaggy also has that lanky dishelved look alot of gay black porn actors have in the thug hunter videos. https://youtu.be/UThF3RJoCNQ?si=iRCV8Uig3mDbXzBb
>>153732282>>153732366>The sheer fucking hubrisIt always amuses me how autistically definitive you people take this shit. This was advertisement from boomer execs to sell to OTHER boomer execs at ad companies, not some kind of definitive fucking statement. It's not a fucking Fan Wank argument, its just a fucking sales pitch of "our shit's the best, trust me & pay me bro". You fucking retards act like it's someone's personal Top Ten list for you to argue against. It's pretty much a pitch for selling Snake Oil.
>>153745583Pokemon came to America in September ‘98 and was on Kids WB by the Spring of ‘99, it was hardly ages for it to take DBZ was also on Toonami after about a year of syndication. This might’ve felt longer if you were a kid.
Every thread on /co/ has to be a speedrun to see how fast we can get to EvW
>>153733223>Why did Baby Boomers act like Pokemon was some kind of crazy wacky thing that couldn't be understoodCite examples where they did this. Go ahead, I'll wait. Unless you're just jumping to conclusions with your own retarded baseless assumptions.....as usual.
>>153745931You only fight it because you get no bitches, anon. Those people probably hid it too until they got bitches. R Crumb is a notorious example, he was living like a normie until he got big with hippies.
>>153734437>Yeah, boomer animators especially hated pokemon and blamed it for getting alot of the fox kids cartoons cancelledYour "source" is literally a fucking /co/ assumption bullshit post. You fuckers are literally retarded and your arguments are all ass-pull assumptions. Animaniacs and their spin-offs were around for YEARS, which is longer than the lifespan of most cartoons. Fuuuucckkk I hate how insanely stupid you dipshits are.
>>153746531My dad is a boomer and he always thought Pokemon was amusing and fascinating in a strange way. But at the same time he was a grown ass man and it wasn't his hobby or interest. I never recall seeing adults that hated Pokemon, I think they all got the point of it. If kids can get it, adults can get it.
>>153736565>a duzzyIt's "doozie", or "doozy" retard. This is what happens to children who never read the Sunday Funnies
>>153736565The reason America is considered anime reaching global is because it’s a massive country and thus a massive market that brings in way more money that Lat Am shit hovels or tiny European countries . Every Japanese company would gladly sacrifice the Mexican market in favor of the US because America actually has money
>>153746599I'm jealous. My parents called it a weird "Australian" thing at best and devil spawn at worst, though they didn't outright forbid it at least.
>>153746599Pokemon is more confusing today because you have actual adults still obsessed with it, not just children.
>>153738049>I have rung the bell on Abner to my wits end. Abner's descent into obscurity pains me.I'm NOT an expert but didn't they have some animated shorts by Fleischer that were later destroyed? I just bought & watched picrel, where they stated back in the day standard procedure for licensed works was to return the shorts back to the license holder, many of whom destroyed the originals due to storage costs.Speaking of which, the Little Lulu shorts were just...okay, and not anything that compelled me to want more. A lot of classic IPs just don't hold up. Some were mid to begin with, and many simply ran their course. So many of Hanna Barbera's Funny Animal stuff was basic bitch stuff with horribly cheap backiground art. As a classic animation buff, its a chore to watch. the 60's & 70's were a low point for a lot of stuff.
>>153738150>Why were so many golden agers such horndogs?It was normal for every single generation from the Dawn of Mankind, until you zoomies were pumped full of too many chemicals, even though you still manage to be horndogs for animated fake shit instead. You don't understand because you're chemically castrated, kid.
>>153730984>Introduction by Harlan Ellison
>>153738200>Some of my favorite shows are already obscure as is, one of them literally only exists as shitty rips with fansubs on the Internet Archive.Don't bother to fucking share which one so that others might discover it, retard.>OMG MAH FAVORITE IS UNHEARD OF!!!>Do you mind telling us what it is?>......no.You're part of the problem, stupid.
>>153746531>>153746561Most of the accusations of boomers hating Pokemon are the autists here getting upset over their parents teasing them about it or thinking a parody meant seething contempt. The idea of something being done to tease or lightly jest is alien to them because they don’t understand social cues. There are some cases of church groups or parents banning Pokemon, but if you really look at it they were so minor in the grand scheme of things and we only really know of it because of some news articles picking up on some isolated events for human interest stories.
>>153732445The movie predicted factories moving overseas and George losing his job to aliens.
>>153738428>If you ask me part of HB's obscurity boils down to the abscence of reinvention between the 80's and 90's.That's because the crap they tried to reinvent in the 70's failed to gain traction. The Fred & Barney 1979 show only lasted 17 episodes. Networks didn't want the tired old shit, they wanted Fresh & New. It wasn't for lack of trying, virtually everything available was either attempted to be rebooted, or the old shit was dusted off and given airtime somewhere, and overall new audiences just didn't show up. Looney Tunes is pretty universal, Bugs & Daffy being a dick and tormenting Elmer Fudd, etc is timeless and will always work. A Flintsones style sit-com show just wasn't what people wanted any more.The tame stuff always fades away. The family stuff always fades away. The subversive always endures. Even Spongebob tormenting Squidward will outlast The Flintstones tameness.You can reboot anything, but if the core essence is tame, it just can't endure.
>>153738931>Both heavily edited to remove as much Japanese influence as possible.Not really? Aside from names/very minor script changes they were mostly faithful to their original versions overall (which is shocking considering they were among the earliest of their kind). Hell even their credits made sure to acknowledge the some of the original nip staff.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6Ktm2Tj_JUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR_9cx_y-Iw
>>153736699The joke is Buttons suffers to keep Mindy from dying violently then gets scolded for tracking mud on the carpet.
>>153746787> Bugs & Daffy being a dick and tormenting Elmer Fudd, etc is timeless and will always work. It’s not, this sort of stuff is also rejected. Millenials are polite and say they respect that stuff but don’t actually care, zones don’t really resonate, alpha just outright rejects it.
The Simpsons has dictated animated comedies for the last 30 years. The Flintstones might be a relic, but it's the ancestor to a lot of shows that are still going.
>>153738562>We were once so incomprehensibly creatively dynamic we could trod over the best the world had to offer without so much as a wink.You 100% nailed it. It was intentionally beaten out of us though. When Elon's DOGE efforts proved that the govt (through USAid or whatever) literally sponsored refurbishing places like Pizza Hut to become a soulless corporate building, it makes you wonder if they did the same to McDonalds, where it changed from Family Friendly to looking like a prison cafeteria. An artistic nation is a free-thinking nation, that's why so much today is so soulless.
>>153734075he was just an oldskool Democrat like Frank Sinatra who didn't like the new left's takeover of the party in the 60s
>>153746787Unless it is Mickey Mouse, he got tame but then outlived them all
>>153746822Looney Tunes is probably the earliest example I can recall of how a once popular brand can get mismanaged to irrelevancy, and I'm talking about as far back as the 50's even.
>>153746854Only because Disney won't ever let him die.
>>153740136>I know paramount owns a pretty hefty stake of the rights for indiana jones. Thats what i imagine is keeping it from getting a full releaseIt's the music rights. Paramount does not own the rights at all for Indy intellectually, they only own distribution rights. It's SO fucking tiresome reading you retards going off on your half-assed assumptions paraded around like you know anything. >Without ford playing indiana jones the whole franchise is simply better off as a dead IP imo.True, but its also a struggle to get modern audiences interested in 1930s-40s adventures and it clearly died when they went to the 50s & 60s. Add to that the merchandise doesn't do gangbusters, and you're left with the spreadsheet types overruling anyone in the future that MAY have any passion for rebooting it. RIP Indy.
>>153746520What's EvW?
>>153740445>I could be wrongYou are. It's not like you have internet access to actually get off your lazy ass and do your own research.
>>153746912thanks for the reply, ChatGPT
>>153740871>and no one remembers him now.So, is this a self-own that you're a nobody? Why do you absolute fucking retards have such a childish grasp on basic language skills? There's still an entire generation of fucking Baby Boomers still alive, are you going to assert that NONE of them remember him, since "nobody" does? Fucking learn some basic elementary school level debating skills you absolute dumbass.
>>153746838>When Elon's DOGE efforts proved that the govt (through USAid or whatever) literally sponsored refurbishing places like Pizza Hut to become a soulless corporate buildingThat one actually wasn't true though. Somebody just posted it on Twitter and people just repeated the claim even though there was no evidence.
>>153746951You're taking things too literally. In the context of this thread, it's obvious that people mean that younger generations don't know about it, and even most older people that know about it don't care.
>>153738562Yup. Have to agree with most of this. American series were by far far the best from a creative and technical standpoint for almost half a century. In fact, I would argue that Pokemon was found as "wack" back in the day because it had clearly Japanese culture references all over the place, which the American public was unaccustomed to see and treated like a foreign entity (which wasn't the case for the rest of the world as basically ALL things were foreign and some degree of culture shock was expected). Now the most popular new "Western" series are being made closer to Shenzen than LA
>>153740871The Shadow walked so Batman can run!
>>153742618As a Gen X'er, I've never been able to get into The Flinstones. Its an animated sitcom, which could never really compete with action cartoons or even the packaged film short cartoons on Saturday mornings with Bugs & Daffy. It really never had much to offer outside of the novelty of prime time animation for it's heydey. Flintstones are essentially a product of their time and will never fit in with modern tastes.
>>153746797After a couple shorts, you WANT Mindy to get fucking murdered, but the little brat is literally untouchable and invincible. That said, it did pay off in one episode where the Warners use her to lure Elmyra into a demolition site.
>>153730955the Flintstones was pretty much laid to rest along with Jean Vanderpyle
>>153742761>God this decade's been so bleak. Everything either dies or gets ruined. It's merciless.Only if you're just a brainless goyslopping consoomer. Meanwhile you've got places like Warner Archive turning out fantastic restored Looney Tunes, Tom & Jerry, etc collections. If you need a constant stream of new shit to fawn over, no wonder you think everything is bleak. Meanwhile the great stuff is getting better restorations than when they were new.
>>153747003And interestingly, because of Pokemon's global success, they intentionally made the Anime more culturally neutral, specifically Japanese references are much rarer. It's also why the games started having regions based on countries other than Japan.
>>153746787>The tame stuff always fades away. The family stuff always fades away.i mean, hey, Pat Boone sold a lot of records in his day
>>153730969Old Flintstones holds up great, especially the early seasons
>>153732282you guys take this ad way too seriously
>>153747110It's embarrassingly funny
>>153746787>The tame stuff always fades away. The family stuff always fades away.what you mean is the stuff aimed at women
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>>153742828>I sincerely believe alot of pulp heroes died off in the fashion they did because they never made consistent enough adaptions.Sorry, grampa, but you're wrong. They tried adapting, they didn't end with the serials, people just stopped showing up. The Shadow: Who's he fight? Goons, bank robbers, crime syndicates? Okay? And? Well, here's more adventures where he takes on...crime syndicates, bank robbers, more goons. Fucking YAWN. It's literally Superman syndrome. The Shadow was overpowered to the class of villain he fought. At least the Superman writers knew this and started introducing bigger threats to keep audiences interested. A hero is ONLY as good as their villains. This is why Sherlock Holmes has endured, because he has a compelling villain where you believe there could be actual jeopardy for your hero. So many of the Pulp Era heroes fought boring ass basic bitch everyday criminals. How many stories can you tell with that premise? They are essentially one-note characters that couldn't survive the repetition. Even the Alec Baldwin movie fought the same forgettable disposable villains. Yawnsville, baby. No amount of attempting to keep them going can bring in audiences for long if at all.
>>153742876>christ guys, pull your heads out of your asses.>wheredoyouthinkweare.jpg
>>153744659The Shadow had been in development for many years, before Batman 89. Batman is a 30's character, and Burton's Batman had a sort of 40's mixed with 80's look. It was pretty retro in it's style even if it wasn't specifically a period film. I wonder if Shadow would've been more succesful if it was more modern like the 1986 DC series.
>>153743203>The idea of licensing out cartoons faded away in the 90sOh Lord its yet another fart huffing navel gazing retard take. This just might be one of the largest concentrations of morons on the internet.
>>153747194Thanks.
>>153744274>I'm gonna need a QRD on that, Anon>hurrrrrrrrr>wut is an internet search, guize????>hold muh hand, I'm scared!
>>153744218>World Masterpiece Theater was anime. For the longest time I was under the impression it was either a puppet showI'm sure you're referring to the Monsterpiece Theater Sesame Street skits (which are surprisingly hilarious in their own right)
>>153744659>I still find it strangebecause you lack intelligence and basic understanding of how Hollywood works.
>>153744995Typical dimwit "muh subversion" take>hurrrrr>let's just degrade the IP!>hurrrrrrryou have zero creativity and it shows.
>>153745093>I fucking hate this world and if society doesnt drastically change for the better soon then i hope the nukes fly instead.You want everyone to burn because you can't get more cartoons to watch. The irony. Holy Shit.
>>153747299>you have zero creativity and it shows.Says the faggot who wants to make the same tired old cartoon from the 60s over again with zero new changes or alterations to it. I hated the last jedi too hut one of the unfortunate side effects is that retards like you now associate the word subversion as a bad thing and link it with anything SJW or overtly feminist because of that awful movie.
>>153747209The shadow fought "proto super villains" but they didn't survive for long.
>>153745132>Animaniacs is super funny as long as you were a boomer criticWeird, because it did great for us kids at the time, lasted for years, and had multiple spin-offs. Hmmmmmm, sounds like the real problem here is YOU, crybaby.>t. NOT a "boomer critic"
>>153747321>You want everyone to burn because you can't get more cartoons to watch.There is far more wrong with the current time period then just the lack of new cartoons, if thats all you gleamed from that post then youre an idiot. But yeah, the world should burn in nuclear hellfire for plenty of reasons and the animation industry not making enough new cartoons is certainly one of them.
>>153738451>Why disney even bothered to "buy" back Oswald I'll never know.Because you're low IQ and cannot think outside of your own tastes. I would have bought back Oswald too, he's a historic character with enough cache at the time to make the money back JUST on selling enamel pins of him at the theme parks, not to mention the other merch too.Fuck you people are so unbearably simple-minded!
This guy is really pissed
>>153745824Fucking crybaby. Waaaah, you're the ONLY ONE to ever be so fucking oppressed! The "Greatest Generation" (that's pre-boomers to you ignorant fools) would smack the ever living shit out of you little bitches.
>>153737124>Next time on DBZ
>>153746744>The idea of something being done to tease or lightly jest is alien to them because they don’t understand social cues.Kek. True. I keep forgetting the true autistic mindset.
>>153746822>I DON'T LIKE THING AND AH SPEAK FOR MAH HECKIN' GENERATIONNNNN!!!I'm sorry you've been chemically castrated, son, but I've seen zoomies & alphas enjoy the classic Looney Tunes. Sucks to be you!
>>153747435Eat shit, the whole world has been on a depressing downward spiral in almost every conceivable aspect since the 2010s and by 2016 especially. The lamest generation faggots are all senile vegetables now shitting in a colostomy bag anyways so they can go fuck themselves and so can you too
>>153746947Faggot
>>153746969>That one actually wasn't true though.Whatever you say, glowie
>>153746993>You're taking things too literally.Basic fucking English, dumbass. Walk it back and try to cover it however you fucking want you loser. There's a fucking difference between the thread topic of "mostly forgotten" and your reddit-tier "hurrrr NOBODY remembers" fucking bullshit. Just accept that your fedora is on too tight you homo and quit trying to sensationalize everything for atttention
>>153747435They should have beaten the Boomers harder.
>>153747091mmmmm...Okay?You have no point, I'd say.Unless you're just going for the rhyme because you're gay
>>153747328>Says the faggot who wants to make the same tired old cartoon from the 60s over again with zero new changes or alterations to it.As evidenced by WHAT, you fucking jump-to-conclusions retard? Please tell me where I advocated for simple copy & pasting. No, you have to assume that just to try to mount a lame comeback. You're fucking retarded, and that's your burden to bear, not mine.
>>153747651>muh subversion reeeeeeeIt wasnt hard to see what kind of retard you are by using that buzzword in your post
>>153747363>There is far more wrong with the current time period then just the lack of new cartoonsThen try taking that shit to /pol/, faggot. >if thats all you gleamed from that post then youre an idiotCan't even crack a joke with you autistic little fucks. But yeah, can you NOT shit up every place you go to with your pathetic little crybaby whining? Generations before you suffered far more than you ever will. Fucking get over yourself you sheltered little shit.
>>153747563I'm sorry, Anon, but facts don't care about your feelings. The Pizza Hut thing with USAid isn't true. But don't worry, you have a whole bunch of actually real questionable USAid expenses you can shit on.
>>153736039I kinda like Katie kaboom. If they fleshed her out a bit maybe give her an equally ridiculous supporting cast and you could have a fun re occurring short. Also Katie's a cutie
>>153747681No fuck face, this time period is absolutely the worst in modern history and i have every right to shit on it. Theres no hope for anything anymore
>>153747526>waaaaaahh>waaa>WAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!Learn some goddamned history, boy. Those that lived through the Great Depression, or those who crossed the country in covered wagons would be INSANELY jealous of what you have. You're just a fart-huffing navel gazing little faggot who's never suffered TRUE adversity, you just live in your sheltered little bubble world believing all the propaganda about how bad you think you have it. You're literally the type they came up with the phrase "touch grass" for. >>153747608>They should have beaten the Boomers harder.Think again. They were the ones beating the Boomers hard enough that the Boomers cracked down on teachers beating students with rulers, so Gen X mostly escaped that, and now you little crybabies need the internet sanitized SO HARD for your coddled iPad asses that you've demonized even the use of "negative" words like faggot and retard. You need to be called out when you're acting like faggots and retards, and that negative speech was always intended for you morons to do some self-introspection as to why your behavior is getting called out instead of hiding behind your two daddy's skirts to get shielded from all criticism.
>>153747702>The Pizza Hut thing with USAid isn't true.
>>153747759Suck my fucking dick cocksucker. The 2010s plus is the most depressing time period in recent history. You being a sniveling little bitch throwing a tantrum because i dared disrespect your shit lamest generation era wont change how shit this period is either. Kill yourself
>>153744659Some of those thirties characters that you mentioned DO have potential to be appealing as they do have potential. After all even older characters than them were still considered successful like Tarzan and Zorro. In fact Zorro got a successful movie in the nineties as well.However examples like the Rocketeer came across as stupid. So the Rocketeer's great ability is that he flies around to fight Nazis? That......idiotic. More stupid than Captain America the drug addict needing Jewish science formula to stop being weak to fight the Nazis. The Shadow on the other hand should have been a hit but somehow failed despite he being a cooler Batman.Now then, the Phantom failed because the design of the hero himself is ridiculous. He looks like a humanoid condom. The worst thing a hero can be is look lame. And sadly Phantom is lame looking. Can't believe that even now generations later he's never had a redesign to make him look cooler.Some of these old characters had potential but some failed for reasons that should have made executives say "We're not wasting budget money on THIS" before making anything. Rocketeer and the Phantom are examples of that.
>>153747725>this time period is absolutely the worst in modern historyHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....OH. MY GOD. MY MOTHERFUKKIN SIDES!!!!! You believe that! you LITERALLY fucking believe that!!!! Hoooollly fuckin' SHIT son! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!Hey, Bubble Boy, try picking up and reading an actual History book! I LOVE how you can post your thoughts on the internet without fear of some dictator beheading you or without ANY concern that you're fucking around rather than scrounging hard to find your next meal. No. You come to a CARTOON FORUM to cry! HAHAHAHAHA!!!>Theres no hope for anything anymoreUnlike those who lived on the Frontier and had to fear being raped, tortured & beaten, you can literally door-dash some food and buy some cheap rope at Wal Mart.
>>153747855Thoroughly domesticated.
>>153747802>The 2010s plus is the most depressing time period in recent history.Ooohhhh, so now you're moving goalposts and adding in the caveat of "recent" history. Ohhhh. NOBODY had it hard before YOU came along, Bubble Boy! THIS is why you need to be called out on your behavior. THIS is why all of the coddling and censorship is a terrible thing. Bubble Boy's like you crumble so easily when you finally reach the Real World and have to deal with the SAME SHIT that everyone else has had to deal with. God, I hate you little crybaby pussy faggots SO goddamned much. Go touch some real fucking grass, you sheltered little snot.
>>153747895What kind of comeback is THAT supposed to be, you coddled little child? Are you trying to brag that you're potty trained? Being raised with an iPad in your hands has left you with the attention span of a goldfish.
>>153747855>Shut up and say nothing about the decay and degradation of things you used to enjoy in society because (unspecified past time period) was worse. Keep your mouth shut and be content at the downward spiral and say nothing about itNo i wont. fuck you. Fuck america and fuck bootlicking faggots such as yourself
>>153747935I recommend you do some reading, really nothing good can come from the commodification of humanity.
>>153747912>WAAAAAGGHHHHH STOP BAD MOUTHING THE AWFUL DYSTOPIC 2010s ERA IT HAD PITBULL AND MINECRAFT STOP BEING A MEANINE OVER THIS SHIT TIME PERIOD BECAUSE I GREW UP IN IT WAAGHHHHHHHH SHUT UP AND SAY NOTHING AND BE CONTENT WITH THE MEDIOCRITY LIKE I DO AS A GOOD DOCILE C.UCK
>>153747935For someone who loves to white knight the awful current year like a bitch, you sure are also paradoxically complaining about it yourself by pointing out cancerous aspects to it such as i-toddlers
>>153747941>Shut up and say nothing about the decay and degradation of things you used to enjoy in societyHey, faggot, if you had any ability to comprehend you'd grasp that I'm saying there are places besides /co/ for you to whine like a faggot. If you want to talk /co/ then talk /co/. If you want to flail your little stringy faggot arms and cry about society, go to /pol/. You're literally a huge part of WHY the world is like it is now because you're a rampant narcissist that makes every fucking discussion about YOU and how everything affects YOU. Fuck off with your crybaby bullshit. We are not here to coddle you.
>>153733112Jesus I misread Al and AI and wondered what the fuck AI had to do to a comic strip from the 30s
>>153748034This is called deflection
>>153748034First off i hate /pol/ dumbass. Second i made ONE post about how shit everything has gotten and it was relevant to the discussion of ancient IPs being irrelevant and time periods shifting because it was ON TOPIC TO THE DISCUSSION OF THE THREAD, BITCH. So fuck off yourself and stop flailing like a retard because i dared to call out this shit era, you wannabe jannie.
>>153747958>AH AM SO HECKIN' SMAHT!Whew lad! and yet you heckin participate in it! go navel gaze on plebbit or /pol/>>153747989>For someone who loves to white knight the awful current year like a bitchLook, another faggot who just can't comprehend. Advocating for BASIC coping skills is not "white knighting for current year", you retarded little faggot. I do not come to fucking /co/ of all places to get in to discussions of the good or bad of today's world. >WAAAAHHHHHHH>THE WORLD SUUUUCCKKKSSSSSIt ALWAYS HAS you retarded little coddled children! You need to find your own way to live and deal with it. Every single living being has faced the same fucking thing. But the majority of you are stone cold losers, crying like little bitches. The world DOES suck now, and I'm personally living my best life because I'm not squealing like a little bitch about you retards chopping off your own dicks, I'm literally making personal choices on how to enjoy each day like going outside for walks and watching things I enjoy instead of whining how every slop isn't made for me personally. Cry harder.
>>153747810The Rocketeer isn’t an actual pulp character, he’s a homage to them made in the 80s.It was also a major factor in rediscovering Bettie Paige and pinup art /rockabilly style in the 80s. The appeal was it being a nostalgic piece and his sexy his girlfriend based off Bettie Paige was.
>>153748166The world has sucked substantially harder within the last 15+ years and you are either willfully ignorant or straight up retarded to say differently. Take your internet tough guy shit somewhere else, numbnuts. For someone who is complaining about others being "off topic" you sure are shitting up the thread with your incessant bitching and whining that other people are talking about how objectively awful the past decade has become.
>>153748081>i made ONE post about how shit everything has gotten and it was relevant to the discussion of ancient IPs being irrelevant and time periods shifting because it was ON TOPIC TO THE DISCUSSION OF THE THREAD, BITCH.What a retard take. If everything is now shit, that doesn't make the older stuff "irrelevant". You're not on topic, you're literally fucking retarded. From the dawn of television they were repackaging theatrical shorts for tv like old black & white Three Stooges, Our Gang, etc that were doing gangbusters and gaining new fans regardless of the quality of other shows on tv. You're just low IQ, deal with it.
>>153748223>If everything is now shit, that doesn't make the older stuff "irrelevant"I never said or even implied that, youre just making shit up now
>>153748205>doubles down on the cryingOkay son, realtalk time. Did you chop off your willy?>The world has sucked substantially harder within the last 15+ years Okay....AND??????WHY THEN am I living my Best Life now? For starters, I am not a consooomer or a goyslopper. When entertainment went to shit, did I cry my way through the latest capeshit, or did I make a personal decision to simply not consoooom it? Do I CRY like a little bitch because cartoons went to absolute shit in the 1960s too (I wasn't alive then), or do I say, hey, those 1940s cartoons were better, maybe I'll watch those instead?You have LITERALLY 100+years of cartoons, TV, films, books, comics, etc to fucking choose from.>muh heckin WORLD!!!!!!Soi fucking what? It's ALWAYS been a struggle. Do you stay online and cry about politics, or do you decide today is nice enough to go out for barbeque? You cry and cry and cry, but literally everyone has to face the world at some point. You just can't cope because you're a fucking loser. Simple as.
>>153730955G.I. Joe is a weird case where Hasbro clearly keeps trying to make it a thing again, but they always half-ass it and/or fail miserably. They're trying once again to have G.I. Joe ride off of Transformers' coattails, but I doubt it will work.
>>153748238>I never said or even implied thatThen how was your post on topic? Because it wasn't, you're just retarded.
>>153746838This is way more dramatic than the sad truth that making buildings so tied to brand identity makes it hard to resell the property. That and catering to an adult market over kids.
>>153746947Spiritually brown. Do big word hurt your brain? Do you need to have things explained to you like a cool black guy was saying it?
>>153748359>G.I. Joe is a weird case where Hasbro clearly keeps trying to make it a thing again, but they always half-ass it and/or fail miserably.Because at its core it was literally called A Real AMERICAN Hero, and corporations have completely shied away from the nationalistic pride angle everywhere. Violence, guns, and national pride. A hallmark of the 80's, a vital part of the essence of GI Joe, and the elements they try to downplay so hard ever since.
>>153747810Say that to Papua New Guinea. See how long you last without internal organs
>>153748398>makes it hard to resell the property.Look at this absolute retard who thinks McDonalds expects so hard to FAIL that they are planning ahead at reselling their buildings. Holy Fuck, I've seen some stupid takes, but goddamn you are literally fucking retarded son!
>>153747509That’s nice, I like LT too, but you’re denying reality if you think they’re as popular as they were 30+ years ago.
>>153748346>>doubles down on the cryingNice projection, cuz youre the one throwing a bitch fit temper tantrum over people talking about changes in time periods in an thread about lost IP characters>trannies out of no whereObsessed>WHY THEN am I living my Best Life now? Because you arent and are putting on a mask like you are. If youre this shit faced and pissed because people dare to call out how crap everythings gotten, then youre an unhappy lunatic yourself. Piss off you bitching wretch>>153748360You arent and never will be a jannie. Seethe and mald about it, jackass
>>153733082>to be fair, when it started circulating, OF had only just started allowing porn on the platformYeah exactly. I heard this too and this clearly was an idea to see if a patreon style could work for an IP, just instead of patreon only fans since at the time it was smaller before it blew up with porn.
>>153748205>The world has sucked substantially harder within the last 15+ yearsYes, and it will continue to do so. The world is fucked, and its largely due to the fact so many of the younger generations have turned out to be coddled crybaby faggots who just whine and piss themselves like the little communists they turned out to be. Instead of growing a spine and rejecting the propaganda slop they serve you, you still eat it up and prove that there's an audience of zombie brained gullible fools to step in line for them. You're your own worst enemy and you're too limp wristed and impotent to figure that out or change anything. You're all lemmings.
>>153748454I said I've seen people enjoy it, I never said anything about its broader popularity you dumb fuck. Why do so many of you low IQ retards keep jumping to such broad conclusions about shit that wasn't even said? Faggot.
>>153748359>>153748413How popular was GI Joe outside of America at its peak?
>>153748476>Because you arentkek. Okay my dude. I'm just enjoying a Tuesday morning sipping my coffee here watching you babies piss yourselves because your childhood cartoons suck compared to mine. And its an absolutely beautiful day outside.>>153748476>You arent and never will be a jannie.Don't want to be, but you weren't on topic. Talk about malding! kek! Keep swinging, kid!
>>153748510>muh communism muh tranniesYou are the exact kind of tumor thats been destroying the world like a cancer. You are apart of the problem that ive been pointing out, and i think thats why youre so pissed off too because i called fags like you out, stop telling me to go back to /pol/ and go their yourself since you clearly belong their you mongrel hick
>>153748555>How popular was GI Joe outside of America at its peak?You're asking an American to describe popularity outside of America, bro.All I know is they rebranded it as "Action Force" in the UK, it sold a lot of toys, and even Brazil had their own exclusive versions (paint decos) of toys.
>>153748541And I never said I personally didn’t like Looney Tunes, so I don’t know why you’d jump to that conclusion.
>>153748598>Don't want to be, but you weren't on topic.Then stop trying to act like a jannie, but hey if you want to embarrass yourself by trying to be an unofficial jannie then youll get paid the same amount as they do kek.
>>153744260Correction, 4 years, OG Dragonball premiered properly in Mexico in 95, DBZ did in 97, Buu Saga in 99 and GT I'm 2000
>>153748623>someone who mentions commies and trannies are somehow WORSE than ACTUAL commies and trannies!I'm truly sorry that you're such a fucking loser, son. I'm fixing to start my day soon, you're stuck with your loser mentality and the shittiness of being you. Seriously, learn to COPE isn't just a meme, it's actual advice. You can cry like a bitch, or you can direct your energy to focusing on the things that make you happy in life. Touching Grass is also more than a meme. Get outside. Hell, sit on a porch and enjoy the breeze while you think about what makes you happy in life. Even a broke ass brown like youself can get a pencil and paper and try to draw. If you want to live a life full of negativity and pessimism, stay online, if you want more quality of life, spend more time away from the internet. You're always stuck with yourself though. Sorry you're such a little bitch baby. I hope you can change that.
>>153748435Anon, McDonalds is infamously more a real estate company than a restaurant. The buildings are run by franchisees but McDonald’s owns the property and re ts it out. They’re more likely to follow real estate trends than anything.For most chains, having generic real estate is more to make reselling in case of failure or moving easier. That said, with McDonald’s it’s more the opposite, if they buy up a former building. This is the case with a closed Burger King by my job, McDonald’s bought it, and because modern restaurants are all generic they don’t need to spend more money renovating it to add the old style roofs. They can just quickly spring up and be up to franchise standards.
>>153748636>And I never said I personally didn’t like Looney TunesI never said you personally did OR didn't you fucking brain dead retard. Learn to fucking READ if you're going to type on a goddamn forum. Holy SHIT you're retarded.
>>153748671>noooooo>you can't mention the heckin commies and trannies!!!!!!>but I'm going to heckin keep harping about JANNIES JANNIES JANNIES!!!!!!Are......the jannies in the room with you right now, son? I'd ask if you were ok but you're clearly not. You're low IQ and have now focused your fixation on jannies. Sad. Attention span like a goldfish.
>>153748725Good to see you aren't mad about it at all
>>153748745So you didn’t post>>153747509> >I DON'T LIKE THING AND AH SPEAK FOR MAH HECKIN' GENERATIONNNNN!!!>I'm sorry you've been chemically castrated, son?Maybe you need to calm down a little anon.
>>153748735Anon, when was the last time you saw a McDonalds building get sold to a non-McDonalds franchisee? Nobody builds a fucking McDonalds building with the intention that it will one day no longer be a fucking McDonalds. Good Lord, you're fucking doubling down on your retarded bullshit and just making shit up.
>>153748829Anon read my post clearly. McDonald’s isn’t the one selling off property but buying them up. They want to open up in as many locations as cheaply as possible. That means nixing a lot of the individual stylings from older locations, because they buy up locations formerly occupied by other restaurants. They also want people in and out faster because that turns over money quicker.
>>153748790Thanks. Glad to see you realize it. Oh, wait, you're trying (and failing) to be sarcastic about it. See, you faggots were raised by your two daddies to think being "mad" about things is somehow wrong, which is why you keep consooming the slop instead of getting up just that tiny bit of anger at Hollywood thinking they can get away with feeding you slop, and walking away and denying them any profit or attention whatsoever. If you don't experience anger ever, you're just a little lemming, and saying the sloppification is "just fine". Grown some balls, don't chop them off.
>>153748810Oh, so you're the little bitch who decided they would speak on behalf of entire generations and what they do or don't like, but you take umbrage if you think anyone is speaking on YOUR behalf? Funny how that works out, huh kid?
>>153736260G2 developers were given a shoestring budget and part of it went to a golden mask that was given away in a scandalous competition. G2 was then killed prematurely because Lego thought it was taking sales away from the ugly and expensive Star Wars buildable figures.Also >>153736314
>>153748872>doubling down intensifiesJust fuck off with your retarded ass bullshit. I'm sorry you're so fucking stupid.>they want they want, therefore they're doing the shit I claim they're doing despite zero evidence and refusal to answer any direct questions!!!!!Whew lad.>McDonald’s isn’t the one selling off property but buying them up.WHEN has McDonalds bought a PRE-EXISTING building and kept it and used it for a new restaurant, rather than leveling it and building a new building from scratch? Fuuuucccccck you just keep spewing bullshit that is so insanely retarded and just plain wrong.
>>153748359>>153748413The problem with GI Joe is that you can't openly market Call of Duty style operator shit to kids even though kids absolutely play those games. GI Joe needed to chase the Call of Duty Modern Warfare audience but Hasbro still had cold feet about doubling down on an "adult" audience or actually getting into the game market. Irony being if they targeted the tacticool crowd, kids would be more interested because the standards of cool military shit has changed. GI Joe is still angling on 80's Cold War shit 20+ years after the GWOT.
>>153749000>WHEN has McDonalds bought a PRE-EXISTING building and kept it and used it for a new restaurant, rather than leveling it and building a new building from scratch?Like I said, just recently right in the next town by me. If you really want an answer that ties into conspiracy theories, they want people to spend less time in the restaurants because we flooded the nation with low-IQ browns. That's the real issue. They didn't change fucking McDonalds to squash your imagination, they did it because it's cost ineffective to have a nice place when it's going to be destroyed by people who can't function in a proper society. . Franchise owners don't want to deal with brown families being in the restaurant all day and brown kids shitting in the skytubes and ballpits. Menu options are less varied and promos are less fun because the employees are largely becoming fucking stupid browns who can't speak English who you can't teach shit to.
>>153748810>speaks on behalf of millenials and zoomersI mean, safe to assume you fall in to one of the two since you appointed yourself their spokesperson>speaks for others>offended if someone speaks for youkek. lmao. kwab.
>>153749149>anecdote of ONE>won't say where, just trust me bro>this is how the ENTIRE corporation operates bro!>despite ZERO evidenceI mean, sorry if you live in a meth town that can't even maintain a McDonalds, but that explains your stupidity. Tell your mom not to light up the next time she's pregnant.
>>153749372>telling my location on 4chanLMAO, are you sure you're not a glowie, anon?
>>153730955flinstones is only remembered because of the cereal and vinesauce meme
why is this thread so angry?
>>153749419If I were a glowie I'd HAVE your location already, you fetal alcohol syndrome brownoid.
>>153749466Everything is terrible and getting worse.
>>153730969The Flintstones is a thousand times more funny than Scooby-Doo. Humor has little to do with why kids like Scooby though
>>153749466Some Anons who are clearly very angry, frustrated and probably lonely people derailed discussions about old media and reboots to whine about how much people hate modern media and modern society in general.
>>153749466Because the world is bad and people want it nuked because they're angry over the quality of kiddie cartoons. Bad people want to speak on behalf of entire generations but get assmad if anyone might speak for them. And people want to claim NOBODY knows characters like The Shadow and get angry when you point out things like the production team of the 1994 film is mostly still around.Retards, making retard arguments, getting ass-blasted at the simplest challenge to how stupid the shit is they are spewing. Basically, much of /co/ lacking proper coping skills.
>>153749466Mention anime and Animaniacs in the same sentence, and it's guaranteed HE will show up.
>>153749582I wonder how these franchise's could even be reworked to succeed today.
>weswegen ist diesen angelschnur so erzurnt?insects cannot be exposed to high radiation indefinitely and asked to play the bodies team medic, there is a good way to live and an evil way to live and we were already told the lines that separate them should be easy to tell.VVVVVVVV$$-_U_-$$
>>153749609Not by sitting around and pontificating into the ether about it.But hey, I'll bite. Fans, with actual talent, using AI to bring back & create something of merit that catches on.And I specify "with talent" because I've seen enough drek where characters just show up just because. Writing matters.
>>153749612ARTOO DETOO!IT IS YOU! IT IS YOU!
>>153746682I mentioned them earlier, they were products of Columbia Pictures, but they really didnt take off. They have alot of of adaption quirks too. They feel like lesser popeye shorts. As for Lulu many of her appearances are better than Famous-era Popeye ones. They're repetitive but I get more out of them than the average Famous release. Audrey's always been the better of the trouble making cartoon girls. >>153746708It's gay how you whittle shit down to generation wars when everyone has been hypersexualized for the last 15 odd years. I get the appeal of woman just as much as the next red blooded man, what I dont get is being so much of a pervert that you're compelled to enscribe the bar countertop with busty women while erect and hanging out with your buddies, which Al Capp did on multiple occasions. But sure, let's keep dunking on zoomers because this thread hasnt been reduced to rubble enough yet.
>>153747040>buzzword buzzword buzzwordLearn to speak without relying on FOTM internet terminology. Otherwise I agree, there's plenty to celebrate, but just the same there's alot which hasnt been restored or rereleased. Beyond just that the idea that nothing new or noteworthy ever sees the light of day is depressing. If you're a guy in your late 20's to early 40's nothing gets made or marketed to you. Everything that does either dies fast or gets buried/ruined intentionally.
>>153749149When the building is in a downtown area? The nearest McDonald's to me was in a former historic bank but they've left the building and it's now a Burger King. To hammer the point that these are not new constructions but remodels of a building from the mid 19th century, it lacks a drive thru and parking lot entirely. The location relies entirely on foot traffic.
>>153749770>It's gay how you whittle shit down to generation wars when everyone has been hypersexualized for the last 15 odd years.>but here's muh anecdote of Al Capp being a horndog>but somehow horndogs are just a.....currentyear thing???Contradict yourself much??? And someone is questioning why horndogs were prevalent, your argument is somehow just the last 15 years are hypersexualized???? You make no sense there pal.
>>153749850Derp, meant to reply to >>153749000
>>153749864Really bending over backwards to continue the argument there.
>>153748555Euro here. Joes were only second to Transformers among kids until Mighty Morphin Power Rangers obliterated the landscape.
>>153749871>DERP McDonalds makes ALL of its MODERN BUILDINGS look like prison cafeterias because this ONE McDonalds was in a HISTORIC SITE and sold out to ONE Burger King franchisee. This is why the entire McDonalds corporation makes all of their NEW buildings soulless.Good Lord. I think you've reached new heights with the retardation here son. One historic building somehow leads to picrel everywhere? What the actual fuck.
>>153749770>s. I get the appeal of woman just as much as the next red blooded man, what I dont get is being so much of a pervert that you're compelled to enscribe the bar countertop with busty women while erect and hanging out with your buddies, which Al Capp did on multiple occasions.Where did you read this story? Was he actually hard or was he just drawing naked women?I've heard much worse stories about him than just drawing naked women on things. That's just guys being guys, especially in the days before even Playboy. If you could draw a nice sexy woman, that was a hot commodity since it wasn't something a guy could see easily. Especially in places where it's all guys. It's was a party trick or something to amuse others. if he was drawing gaping pussies and penetration or something, that seems obscene, but just...busty women seems ribald at best. Nudes and sexy women aren't pornographic inherently, erotic yes, but there's levels there.
>>153747810Why were your posts deleted?
>>153749919>Really bending over backwards to continue the argument there.Not really. Absolutely confused by the plethora of contradictions in your post>everyone has been hypersexualized for the last 15 odd years.>weighing in on a comment to someone else who's confused about the existence of hypersexualized people>but here's my anecdote of just one hypersexualized individual who died decades ago, while I literally just asserted that this is only a recent thing in the past 15 yearsLiterally take your dementia medication, pops.
>>153749996There's a McDonald's next to me that's the most unique-looking out of any building I've seen, but they gutted all the electronic kiosks that made its PlayPlace worth visiting.
>>153750009I'm sorry, but >>153749770 just said that hypersexualization is only a thing of " the last 15 odd years."It did not exist prior to that, and any proof is just an attempt to "continue the argument" While they continue to provide arguments of decades old hypersexualization.
>>153750091Fantastic! Especially the rennovated playpark. Now there's a place to go mcfuck yourself
>>153749582Coincidentally they write the same way
>>153746744Not the case, boomers hated Pokémon because 4Kids butchered it, if the show was a straight translation with just name changes it would've been loved just like it was in Japan, because Japanese boomers loved it.>>153746787>>153747006>>153746682Debunked.>>153747165No, men, Homer and Bart are timeless.>>153747509Thanks to MeTV Toons.>>153749464And SiIvaGunner.And MeTV Toons.
Well, this thread sure died once people got called out on their bullshit.
>>153750711Oh hi Famicom, surprised it took you this long to show up and lay your waste here.
>>153751287Oh, let him have his time. This thread's already a wreck anyway.
>>153751287This isn't a Famicom post and this post isn't waste.Touch grass.
I make a post about Li'l Abner and come back to see what you guys are all discussing about what with the old forgotten shows and see the thread's just a mess of nonsense. Forsooth. Forsooth to all of you.
>>153747209>A hero is ONLY as good as their villains. This is why Sherlock Holmes has endured, because he has a compelling villain where you believe there could be actual jeopardy for your hero.You do realize Moriarty only actually appeared in like two Holmes stories by Arthur Conan Doyle, right? By your argument The Shadow has more recurring villains than Holmes.
>>153751388Hi famicom
>>153751346Shut up Famicom.
>>153749996Way to display that you were not only certainly state-schooled but also likely a child.To jog your TikTok corroded memory, the question was "WHEN has McDonalds bought a PRE-EXISTING building and kept it and used it for a new restaurant, rather than leveling it and building a new building from scratch?" and the answer was "when the building is historic/in a downtown area". I never made any other statement beyond that one. No amount of CAPITALISATION will change that fact. I made no other claims. So unless you can disprove my one single, solitary claim, I'm gonna call you Al Capp as you haven't a leg to stand on.
>>153745085THEY'RE MADE BY DIFFERENT TEAMS YOU FUCKING IDIOT
>>153730955Picrel was the first serialized show, the first show broadcast nationwide, the first franchise in the modern sense, and the Big Bang of popular culture, equal to the Beatles and Star Wars in terms of influencing what came after it
>>153752344That is still remembered because Looney Tunes refenced it.
>>153751392As the OP, I'm extremely disappointed too.
>>153752344African-Americans are probably more aware of it.
>>153751436>By your argument The Shadow has more recurring villainsOh GOD you people are fucking RETARDED!!!!No, you stupid fucking illiterate moronHaving a villain as notable as the hero is NOT the fucking same as having more "recurring" villains. Holy Fucking SHIT just KYS already. Jesus Wept you're literally an imbecile.QUALITY, not quantity you fucking inbred window licker.
>>153732989>remained bigger than even TMNTHave you seen the latest Magic the Gathering set?
God, I just can't take how utterly fucking stupid so many of you are. Holy Christ.
>>153752373Lol, what? Most Looney Tunes shorts that referenced it are really obscure
>>153753046Maybe you should kill yourself so you won't have to deal with our inferior intellects anymore.
>>153753023Moriarty is not a compelling villain. Shiwan Khan has more to him.
>>153753023You never read the Holmes stories did you.
>>153730981I learned about Li’l Abner through Julius Zimmerman
What if we just let things die. Has there ever been a reboot of anything that didn't turn out complete shit?
>>153753398Because Bugs Bunny most be known of by everyone.
>>153753398The Planet of the Apes reboot has been pretty good.
>>153753023Man weren’t you supposed to start your day hours ago?
>>153753143NTA but while I agree (I think even Moran is more interesting to read), I do think in the end Moriarty just has too strong a concept. "Evil Sherlock" trumps everything else. The closest you can get is Milverton, whom I do also find more interesting, but even there of course Moriarty gets the advantage of "killed Sherlock, for a while". Just instantly iconic and therefore constantly used in adaptations which then makes him even more recognisable.
>>153730981Didn't Capp gain control of the IP from the original syndicate? That might have something to do with it. A syndicate won't zombify a strip they don't own.
>>153730955And most ips have had no new installments due to the last few being mediocre as hell. Cause and effect.
>>153738049You still have Alley Oop. Why, here's the most recent Sunday strip. Just like you remember it.
>>153751388That post not being Famicom has been debunked.
Utterly retarded thread
>>153756903Well, it's over now, so good riddance.
>>153756903 It sucks that none of the deleted posts are from Famicom and instead some moron's posts that are deleted, but the replies remain. Truly a retarded thread indeed.
>>153750711>if the show was a straight translation with just name changes it would've been loved just like it was in Japan, because Japanese boomers loved itThat's actually fair, as Nippokemon is actually quite funny and amusing, in spite of its shameless commercialism. A huge amount of what western boomers actually seem to hate about anime related shit is the localization, even if they don't realize this and attribute so many of the shittier elements that didn't originate with them to the Japs.
