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Is needing to be in a Sinister Six/Syndicate proof you have too much villain decay?
Mysterio again
>>153738256>in the now classic Daredevil #7Huh, that guy wasn't kidding about Marvel trying to prop that comic up.
I like Mysterio
>>153738333That hairstyle and outfit makes her look like a little kid.
>>153738533Ya gotta love how everybody craps on Electro's costume but nobody can give him a better one.
>>153738282Hollywood spent a good ten years thinking that smith was more than a one trick pony
>>153738725That is certainly a choice when it comes to Venom's jaw-to-neck ratio.
>>153738823Ah here’s that terrible electro costume u try to forget it’s like he dug cyclops old X factor uniform out of the dump
>>153738452Alyosha is now just a clone of his father it seems
>>153738986Nah, this is his brother, Kraven's other son.
>>153738659Electro's design is one of the great pleb filters in comics. Hawkeye's is another
>>153738725>I was wonderingBoy I hope somebody got fired for that blunder
>>153738999Vlad? He got killed by Kaine.
>>153738986Well we already knew that his dick was the exact same size and shape
>>153739107Nope, I was wrong. Just double-checked the wiki, and this IS Alyosha.
>>153738891>>153739407Kinda scrawny for Venom, ain't he?
Okay, we're taking a turn
>>153739600That's it?
>>153739643I really hope not
>>153739752I've always felt this story was such a limp wristed way to handle the backlash around Sandman's regression
I'm skipping a few issues of Galactus to keep us in books where Spider-Man belongs, like Warlock
>>153739847I kinda just stopped thinking about Douglock after Excalibur ended. Never realised that he got his own book
>>153738316Have they tried just, I dunno, calling the cops and running a phone tap?
>>153738576This design sucks
Alright, I can say tomorrow we'll have only Spider-titles
>>153740897Thanks for storytiming, Magister!
>>153739847I take it this era isn't leaving you with tolerance for additional bullshit.
>>153739586This entire thing kept reminding me of this.
>>153739846I couldn't tell if it was intended to set up a backdoor to fix it or just give a explanation and be done with it thing
>>153739846This was a bad time to be a reformed villain.
>>153738342>>153738357Honestly this is a hilarious new gimmick for Mysterio.I forgot what the actual explanation is for this Mysterio tho.
>>153739586>>153739548There's dragging out the mystery and then there's this stupid writing.Never mind that this was inconsistent with how Ward was portrayed earlier when he said he had already "started setting things in motion."
>>153739615>Soon>1 Year later
>>153738243>Is needing to be in a Sinister Six/Syndicate proof you have too much villain decay?Only if you stop getting used as a solo villain almost entirely and just permanently become a team guy. Especially if you only get solo appearances where you quickly and easily get defeated in an action sequence at the start of an issue before the real story starts.None of that really applies to anyone who'd been on the Sinister Six by this time, but it kind of applies to some of the Sinister Syndicate guys.>>153738467Well it is Byrne.>>153743754Whatever the intent, it ended up being "just explain it and be done with it" and it's been the permanent status quo ever since.
>>153744329>Honestly this is a hilarious new gimmick for Mysterio.I think the guys on the Spider-Man books were just trolling Smith and Quesada at this point, and expecting Marvel Knights would last about as long as Heroes Reborn, then they could just reveal Beck was alive and well as soon as those guys were gone. They had no idea Quesada was going to end up as EIC a year later.A later mini called Spider-Man: The Mysterio Manifesto partially explains what's going on, though the Handbooks later retcon that, so you don't even get all the explanations in an actual comic.>>153744432This is the difference between "dragging out a mystery that you actually have a plan for" and "making things up as you go along without a plan", which is probably why this guy was tied in to so many different things over the past year.
>>153745222>I think the guys on the Spider-Man books were just trolling Smith and Quesada at this pointHow do you go from Owsley and PAD against DeFalco and the ghost of Stern to these assholes? In a little more than a decade, even.
>>153739644Brevoort talked about this on substack once (before putting it in indefinite hiatus after the AI shilling comment got people upset):>Unless I miss my guess, this issue of PETER PARKER, SPIDER-MAN, #12, released on October 27, 1999, contained the last comic book story that I’ve written for Marvel. And it came about in order to solve a problem that editor Ralph Macchio had. A few months earlier, the AMAZING SPIDER-MAN creative team of Howard Mackie and John Byrne had done a story that returned the Sandman to his villainous roots. For about fifteen years, he’d been on a redemption arc after a traumatic encounter with Hydro-man, and had become a member of Silver sable’s Wild Pack and also momentarily an Avenger. But Howard and particularly John wanted him back as a Spidey villain. The problem was how they got there. After years of the heroes of the Marvel Universe having slowly grown to trust the Sandman in his more heroic intentions, their story revealed that Reed Richards had secretly had him under surveillance that entire time, expecting him to go bad again. And wouldn’t you know it, for no good reason, he suddenly does! I don’t think that anybody would have minded having the Sandman back as a villain per se except for the off-handed manner in which it was done, casually discarding years’ worth of developments and in essence saying that the readers who had bought into the Sandman’s reformation were chumps. I know that I didn’t care for it, and I was relatively vocal with Ralph about that fact. So having some extra space to fill in this issue (all of Marvel’s #12s at this time were made double-sized as a matte of course), Ralph challenged me to come up with a story that would make the Sandman’s return to villainy more plausible. The trick was, I couldn’t contradict anything that had been shown in that earlier ASM issue. I gave it some thought, and I hit on what I thought might be an acceptable answer.
>>153746166>The Sandman’s personality shift was so radical that it was almost as though he was a different person. I had seen something like that happen before in a story the Sandman had been a part of. In FANTASTIC FOUR #41-43, the Wizard and the Frightful Four capture the Thing and use the Wizard’s ID Machine to turn him to their side, making him cruel and nasty and violent, unleashing all of his inhibitions. I reasoned that if the Wizard was disgusted with the more line-toting turn his old partner had made, he might be able to use the same device on Sandman, transforming him back into an unrepentant thug. And so that’s what we did. The fact that the device in question was something pre-existing rather than a new contrivance is what made the story work for me. I don’t know how well anybody else felt about it, but the complaints about Sandman’s reformation stopped coming in once it saw print, so that’s something at least. The artwork was done by Geof Isherwood, and as was the style of the time, the story was produced Marvel style—which is to say that I wrote a plot first, Geof drew it, and then I dialogued the story from the artwork. I can remember being on my commuter train ride home one evening with the pages, furiously scribbling potential dialogue down in the margins as I leafed through the pages, the characters feeling like they were talking to me. The one flaw that still bugs me in the finished story is that nobody bothered to get Geof reference on the original ID Machine, so he drew his own new contraption. it worked well enough, but it would have been better if he’d been able to more closely replicate the original Jack Kirby design. Not his fault, though.>https://tombrevoort.substack.com/p/135-first-steps
>>153746170If only Brevoort didn't use his knowledge for evil most the time.
>>153746166If the FF were secretly watching him shouldn't they have seen him get knocked out and captured by the Wizard?
>>153746449The Wizard is more advanced than the overrated Reed Richards.
>>153739600I'm starting to think this guy is symbolic.
