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One Superboy takes over starring in the mainline Superman comic and it's a resounding success. Another Superboy becomes the mainline Superman the book fails. Why did one work and the other fail?
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>>153748365
>and it's a resounding success.

According to whom?
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>>153748365
>alpha male
>beta male literal faggot
gee
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>>153748365
I'm not the biggest Dan Mora fan, but the art on the right actively repels me.
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>>153748371
>DC Comics may have just pulled off one of the most shocking redemption stories in modern superhero comics. After years of being remembered as one of the most dangerous and controversial figures in DC history, Superboy Prime is suddenly one of the hottest characters in comics again — and fans are responding in a massive way. Now, Superman #36 is officially heading into a second printing, complete with a brand-new variant cover by superstar artist Daniel Sampere that has comic readers across social media talking.

https://theaspiringkryptonian.com/2026/05/09/superman-36-second-print/
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>>153748365
FAGS AND WOMEN DON’T READ COMICS
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>>153748365
Prime is more in line with manga sensibilities.
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>>153748365
You can just look at the art of those two covers and immediately know why one succeeded and the other failed without any other context or knowledge.
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>>153748710
Manga Chads can't stop winning.
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>>153748365
One is a fanboy and behaves like a typical fanboy faults and all, the other is gay and his whole personality is being gay. No one but fujos want to read about gays
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>"Why did X fail why Y succeed" thread
yawn
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>>153749036
Probably those superboy prime vs onepieceverse, bleachverse, dbverse shorts helped a bit.
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>>153748365
Pink Kryptonite hair dye.
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>>153748365
Because Jon Kent is gay and lame
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>>153748365
>Character becomes gay
>Art of them makes them look feminine
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>>153748365
Because they ruined Jon Kent for literally no reason. And making Superman a faggot wasn't ever gonna work since actual fags don't come out to support these books.
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>>153748365
One is straight and the other is a homosexual.
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>>153748365
Sexuality aside, Jon is just a bland character. It doesn’t help that Tom Taylor’s solution to make Jon popular was to make him a sjw activist that lets illegals in and protests global warming on the grounds “there is no Earth B” to escape to. Jon hugging Injustice Superman also triggered people.
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>>153748365
One character is meant to be fun while the other is meant to be preachy.
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>>153749673
>One is straight
So far. They make Prime bi at any moment.
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>>153748878
This
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>>153749753
Nope. Jon Kent is the designated gay of the group. Just like Tim and Kate are of the Batfamily. TikTok and Twitter can cry all they want, but they have their gay rep. Prime and Conner are straight unless Jon is killed off or erased. Which won’t happen because killing Gay characters is considered a hate crime in 2026.
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>>153749783
>Conner
>straight
Not with his zesty costume.
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>>153749821
Keep telling yourself that, Magdalene Visaggio
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>>153748365
Better writer for one thing. Williamson is better than Taylor.
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Is John still gay? I thought he started dating a mtf tranny?
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>>153748365
Comic book readers relate to Superboy Prime more. I mean jaded comic fan who wants to atone for his mistakes sounds like a perfect hero for this day and age.
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>>153750251
That just reinforces his gayness.
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>>153748365
>Why did one succeed
Prime has a 20 years arc + a good artist
>and the other fail
Jon has a decen 3 years arc and then got bendis'd and Taylor'd
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>>153748412
A blog post isn't evidence of success.
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>>153750260
Dating a female looking tranny is a step in the right direction tho.
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>>153748365
Jon is aged up and forced into a vapid relationship with a guy who's personality is because a hacktivist and be an uwu softboy. Superboy-Prime is a former prick finally getting the chance to be Superman always wanted to be, even if he maintains some of his obnoxiousness.
Also the cover art speaks a lot of their quality
Tldr; Benditis struck Jon Kent
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>>153750435
>the cover art speaks a lot of their quality
Dan Mora's art is also kinda faggy tho. Sometimes he overemphasizes male bodies.
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>>153748365
Superboy Prime is an interesting character who has a new gimmick and a new compelling story.
Jon Kent is a boring character most fans hate since he was aged up, and then many readers were turned off when they made him a fag.
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>>153748365
Superboy Prime taking over the book has an actual concept to it: a cocky bad guy tries to become a wholesome hero. There's conflict and a clear objective baked right into it. The only concept for Jon Kent taking over as Superman was him being young and gay.

Superboy Prime also has a lot more character to him. He's arrogant, quick-tempered, and aware he's in a comic book. Meanwhile, Jon Kent's most defining character traits since being aged up are being nice and being gay.

Simply put, one is a story with an actual character, and the other is... just gay.
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>>153748365
They should have had Conner take over instead. Far more people like him than these two.
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>>153750596
I think you’re just insecure
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>>153748412
Great panel.
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>>153748365
Jon is a fag, while Prime was able to pull a hot ginger chick in his second issue
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>>153748365
>Bitterness over Super Sons being killed.
>Bitterness over Jon Kent being aged up in a contrived manner (which killed Super Sons for good as direct consequence)
>Headlines read "Superman is Gay Now!" which turned off those not in the loop thinking they made Clark queer and were getting rid of Lois as a love interest/wife
>Jon is bisexual but is only portrayed as gay as in only showing interest in cock which alienated said demographic already sensitive to "bi-erasue" (which is why Teen Jean dismissing Teen Bobby Drake suggesting he might be bi pissed so many off after she used telepathic conversion therapy on him--which was ALSO penned by Bendis, funnily enough)
>Jay Nakamura is an obnoxious, insufferable asshole and a blatant Writer's Pet/Self-Insert while Jon in addition to being a bottom is also his bitch in every social situation making him come across as pathetically spineless and a doormat which isn't very heroic when it isn't part of a civilian facade to keep a secret identity where there it is at least understandable/tolerable
>Jon was a slacktivist (literal) faggot whining about Greta Thunberg shit (which is already insufferable IRL don't need that in escapist media like comics, too) in addition the the utterly retarded cover "There IS no Earth-Two" which is demonstrably, objectively false as the multiverse is pretty much common knowledge.
>Fujos were mad because they wanted Jon and Damian being cute together
>When Jon returned to Earth as a 17-year-old, his traumatic experience was largely brushed past. Instead of a nuanced arc dealing with captivity and PTSD, he quickly bounced back and stepped into the superhero world.
>By aging Jon up to a young adult, DC arguably made him a "skinnier Superman". The move was also frustrating for fans of existing teen heroes like Conner Kent, whose space in the Superman family was suddenly stepped on.
> Readers felt robbed of the ability to watch Clark grow as a traditional dad.
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>>153748365
>and it's a resounding success
lol
uh, good art for starters
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>>153750795
>a cocky bad guy tries to become a wholesome hero
He was never a bad guy. Only a victim of writer whims.
Even crashed out at DC for turning him into a monster.
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>>153748365
>faggots
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>>153748365
Here's what normies see...
>left
Pure aura. Looks like a shonen hero who oozes charisma. DC finally cracked the code unlike Marvel. People want COOL characters who do cool things like Absolute Batman and Superboy Prime. That's how comics sell.
>Right
Looks like tumblr's take on Superman. Throw that shit into the trash. Jon was at his best when he was a kid. DC fumbled Jon hard.
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>>153749076
>>153748550
>>153748379
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>>153754869
homosexuality and pedophilia can be cured with a gunshot to the head.
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>>153748365
That artwork on the right for starters. Who thought that looked good?
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>>153749076
>No one but fujos want to read about gays
Even the fujos would prefer to read Prime just for the shipping potential alone. Like, seriously, he is paired with a shitload of other guys as well.
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>>153752118
Also they now refuse to let anyone but gay artists draw Jon now who always draw him as a complete twink with this weird effeminite face like in the OP picture.
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>>153754869
You are mentally ill lmao
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>>153752118
Personally I blame Bendis for 70% of this
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>>153748365
Jon's character has been fucked up beyond redemption that I genuinely believe they could make the "Tomorrow Man" thing permanent and sent him to be part of the Legion or another distant team and keep young Jon even if he is supposed to be a fucking living paradox.
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>>153750251
Jon is currently single, he's like that one comic about a bisexual that no one wants.
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>>153758828
I wonder if that's part of why his new Tomorrow Man costume has a fully covered face, so that he isn't draw with an effeminate face anymore.
We know at least that new identity is sticking from the current Superman Unlimited arc.
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>>153761858
>make the "Tomorrow Man" thing permanent
They're definitely sticking with that, I'm sure they realized no one liked Superman Jon, and that as long as he used that name, he would only be the lesser Superman compared to Clark.
>sent him to be part of the Legion or another distant team
I really wish that was the case, but I doubt it.
>keep young Jon even if he is supposed to be a fucking living paradox.
I REALLY wish that was the case, but I have no hopes on DC fixing this shit at this point.
It's frustrating cause they seem to know that Jon works better as a kid instead of another young adult Superlad, which is why he's young in adaptations, but they refuse to fix it in the main canon.
Really hate how this is a constant stain in the Superman lore that we just can't seem to get rid off. And it's definitely in part because they made him bisexual, if they hadn't done that, they probably could've killed him and then revived him as a kid by now like they did with Bart Allen back in the day, but since he's been pushed so much as the gay token of the Superfam, they can't just get rid of him in such a callous way.
Best case scenario, he gets some happy "ending" or big sacrifice as a hero moment, maybe to save his younger self and give himself another chance at childhood, it would come full circle and I'd argue it'd be the perfect way to end this older Jon's "story", but even then, that wouldn't go well with the few fans this new version got.
Then again, aging Jon up in the first place already didn't go well with basically anyone, so maybe DC could fuck over the fans again, but for good this time.
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>>153748365
>One Superboy takes over starring in the mainline Superman comic and it's a resounding success. Another Superboy becomes the mainline Superman the book fails. Why did one work and the other fail?
Prime has a weird history of being a psychopathic killer you can leverage into interesting stories wherein he is not the perfect superman nor do we know what exactly to expect out of him. The other is a faggot.
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>>153748365
Because troons like anime style no matter how shit it is, Mora is a fuckin hack
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>>153748412
>Superboy Prime
I remember people calling him Superman Prime back in the 2000s, why downgrade his status by calling him Superboy again?
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>>153762393
To make him young and hot
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>>153761940
>I wonder if that's part of why his new Tomorrow Man costume has a fully covered face
I have thought the same thing, and it would be hilarious, but not that far-fetched, considering the higher-ups know damn well Jon has zero reputation by now and they could also be hiding his face "out of shame" thanks to this.
But I actually like his new costume, especially because is Nightwing-esque in nature, which is ironic, considering "Nightwing" was a Kryptonian deity, in first place.
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>>153762393
He was only ever called Superman because they couldn't actually use Superboy for a little while.
Also, everyone knows him as Superboy-Prime better, that's his brand.
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>>153748412
>Redemption
What?
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Prime is a charming bastard. Jon is just an annoying nice guy.
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>>153748365
Jon's hair alone makes me go "Nope!"
Prime is such a sexy dork.
IT'S PRIME TIME!
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>>153748365
Couple reasons
>Prime was a heel and is now a face and people generally love redemption stories.
>prime has been around a lot longer so has a bit more of a fan base
>Prime is more likable than adult Jon
>when Jons book came out people just wanted Jon to be deaged after the disastrous Bendis run that aged him up but they instead doubled down.
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>>153765859
>they instead doubled down
What other choice do they have? They can't simply deage him because that would mean erasing his homosexuality.
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>>153765897
If homosex is an innate quality, why would deaging him remove it?
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>>153764134
>haha coven sisters let me weaken him by sucking his dick first then getting creampied before the sacrifice
Why is Witchfire like this?
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>>153766438
It makes the sacrifice more trusting. Taking him on dates, letting him get you pregnant and marrying him also helps.
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>>153766505
she's a diabolical mastermind what the fuck
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>>153749753
It's no homo if they're fictional characters from his perspective.
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>>153748878
>two artists well known for their gay art
uh huh
>>153749076
>this laughable bullshit again
jon spent this entire comic having no visible sexuality outside of the presence of his terrible boyfriend to remind you it existed.
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>>153766438
>getting creampied
That would ruin the virgin sacrifice.
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>>153766062
he obviously means that would erase its presence from the material and turn him into a cop-out token.
>if we make the gay character too young to do anything romantically significant, we can say we have one and never go past lip service. that definitely won't be radioactive pr, and the people whining about gay characters will definitely not complain about a gay child character
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>>153767028
They'll kill an actual virgin and transfer his virgin energy to Prime after he gives Witchfire two dozen orgasms
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>>153748365
holy SHIT that dude on the right looks gay. how the fuck did clark and lois produce that thing
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>>153766062
because young jon wasn't gay

he became gay only after being molested
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Jon's not gay he'll have a gf soon who is Dreamer A WOMAN you fucking assholes
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>>153748365
The same reason Akira Toriyama started focusing more on Vegeta than Gohan.
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>>153766438
She needs his manna for the ritual.
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>>153764134
Superboy-Prime, five hours later
>oh, damn
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>>153764134
LMAO! He shut her DOWN!!!!! Got 'em!
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>>153764134
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>>153748365
I have a theory, but I need one more example to confirm it.
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>>153748379
Both are effeminate faggots.
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>>153748412
>I'm Superboy Prime
I thought you rebranded yourself Superman Prime?
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>>153764134
I need more chad-looking chuds rejecting thots out of pure fucking autism. This shit is cathartic for me, therapeutic even.
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>>153764134
kek why is this so funny
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>>153763524
>because they couldn't actually use Superboy
Huh? That was the true reason? I never knew that.
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>>153768215
Koryak is dead though.
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>>153764134
>Prime avoided a pussy trap with the power of autism
I love Prime. He always wins even when he loses.
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>>153768636
Death is meaningless in comics.
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>>153748365
...not everyone should have the right to write, draw and publish their work.
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>>153768821
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New titans came out today if anyone wants to storytime since i cant til my gpu arrives god knows when, and even Kon would be a better replacement than adult jon.
The only reason he is in, is because muh solar flare.
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>>153768307
Because its a genuine tism moment that's relatable but also not hurting Prime at all since, even when he realizes he was getting hit in hours later, he can still pick up any chick he wants if he didn't care more about the comics.
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>>153764134
Thinking about this, I wonder if Prime actually knows who the fuck Witchfire is? I mean, he is supposed to be a super nerd with infinite knowledge about comics, but Witchfire is pretty much a literally who in the DC universe, so she being outside his radar wouldn't be that crazy.
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>>153768215
Tim being with Bernard is soo forced by a writter who hates Steph despite claiming to love her.
No one who likes War Games can call herself a Steph fan.
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>>153769209
probably not they established that prime is a few years out of date the issue before that which is why his boss gave him a few comics as a gift

but the comics in the main stream universe don't give away stuff like secret identities and other behind the scenes stuff
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>>153764134
He is literally me!
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>>153767848
His hairline?
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>>153768821
>illustrated by JERRY GAYLORD

What, was STEVEN DRAGQUEEN not available?
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>>153765897
>his homosexuality
>>153766062
>homosex
>>153767105
>gay
>>153767559
>gay
Fake news, Jon is a filthy bislut, you can even taste after his horrendous taste in men
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>>153748365
What are the current Prime comics to read before Superman 38 comes out?
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>>153748365
He appeals to power level fanboys who like broly and escanor
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>>153768725
Death is meaningless for characters people care about, but unlike Jason and Prime, no one has ever made an attempt to bring Koryak back.
He's also in that weird limbo where he can't really exist anymore due to the retcons, since he needs Post-Crisis Aquaman for that, and DC has mostly defaulted to using his Pre-Crisis lore instead.
I feel like Aquaman's dead Pre-Crisis baby is likelier to come back than him.
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>>153774634
>I feel like Aquaman's dead Pre-Crisis baby is likelier to come back than him.
They could merge both characters into one, but it would be far from the ideal situation.
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>>153768821
>>153768851
This book was fun as hell, you're just a racist piece of shit.
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>>153775437
Gay.
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>>153774634
>Death is meaningless for characters people care about
Could Prime ever die, to begin with? I have the feeling he is some kind of "force of nature" intertwingled with the very fabric of the universe that, even if he was about to die, the universe would retcon itself to avoid this outcome.
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>>153748365
One has woman wanting to ride his super cock and the other one is Jon Kent who's failed a gay relationship even with a transwoman/men(?), ignored his childhood crush, washed up superman wannabe, molested by ultraman, all the older lady in the leauge treats him like a kid because that all they see him as even when it just sad.
I love Jon but the writers really ruin him. I do feel sorry for him...
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>>153753282
>He was never a bad guy
All those stories since Infinite Crisis until getting source wall'd by the Teen Titans before the N52 disagree
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>>153776432
Johns must have been having a huge laugh by throwing the Teen Titans packed with jobbers at the strongest person in the universe.



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