Chapter 102: Page 20I think I heard of that.https://www.gunnerkrigg.com
oy mate do you have a loicense for this copyrighted matoroil?
If Metal GearSolid exists in the canon, so should Harry Potter!
Meltdown incoming?
And then we dig into 10 chapters of Annie's teen fanfiction where she's sailor moon and the class popular girl is an evil witch
how thick is Annie's British accent anyway? Does Reynard have a French accent?
>>153763512She sounds like Kate Rusby.
>>153763197... Wow. I genuinely don't know how to feel or respond to this page.
>>153763802Annie is a nerdy that draws anime fanfics and probably has a crush on Shadow the Hedgehog.
>>153763512>how thick is Annie's British accent anyway?Annie specifically has a Yorkshire accent. Surma's side of the family is from oop north. >Does Reynard have a French accent?Yes. And for the record, Kat is a Bonnie Scot. Ach. I gotta find that Formspring post where Tom talked about it.
>>153763837Ew, no. Just because she's got the 'tism doesn't mean she's a tasteless freak. She has way too much self-respect to be a Sonic fan.
>>153763842>Ach
>>153763917Ach!
>>153763197If this ends up being actually canon, that'd be kinda crazy. Although, I just realized it can't really be canon, because the narration switched from past to present tense around the time Loup attacked.
>>153763892It's in Brit's genes, they can't be helped mate.
>>153763947It's canon in Zimmy's head since Annie is currently just a puppet of her fantasy
>>153764026Sonic is big in Britain?
Just the other day, I was thinking "Hey, remember when Tom was able to poke fun at himself?". I guess he is still is, just not about Tony, because he will fight the audience over his precious special snowflake character who everyone but him can see is a gigantic gaping asshole.
>>153764043No, I mean that the narration that we have in the actual comic is from this Annie's point of view. It doesn't matter if it's Zimmy or Annie, because it can't be canon because the narration switched to present tense a long time ago. Unless this Annie randomly wrote in that change for no reason whatsoever, which would be pretty silly.
>>153764052It's not really big anywhere, despite Sega's desperate astroturfing and the pedo fanbase being extremely loud. Sonic is one big cope of a franchise.
>>153763197>Harry Potter canon to the Yuriverse and magically implanted in Rey's headIs the implication that Zimmy made it up? Or that GCK is unfamiliar with HP for whatever reason (not as popular?) but Zimmy's read it.>>153764075>Awah awah why isn't Tony evilEven willing to poke fun at himself/his comic, that doesn't mean your irl headcanons have to be catered to, and more importantly he's not exactly in the business of self referencing often, that'd just get annoying, like this run on sentence, or the fittingness of me pointing that out, or using the word "fittingness".
>>153763197So meta! Where's Jones?
>>153764075You gotta resolve your daddy issues with your own dad. This constant obsession with how aTony is perceived by others is unhealthy.
>>153764125>defending TonyYou dad will never love you, no matter how much you make excuses for the beatings.
>>153764099Sonic is pretty popular, anon.
>>153764151Literally seek therapy.
>>153764142>>153764167You ruined your own comic, Tom. You did it with a single page. You just couldn't take some criticism about how you went too far with your shock value reveal. Instead you tripled down and raged against your audience. Idiot.
>>153764214You are the only one who's raging.
>>153764250I'm one of like ten people who stuck around after that chapter. Everyone else bailed because fuck that.
>>153764214To be fair, a lot of the Tony hate was fucking stupid and many simply ignored the whole chapter explaining how most of what happened wasn't even his fault. (Or worse, got angry at Tom for 'making excuses' for his own character)
>>153764151My dad is just some guy that never should've had kids, let alone four. He didn't beat me but it's true he'll never love me, and he's getting old enough now that he's starting to regret that I'll never love him. I'm entirely at peace with that because by not being in my life is been made ultimately clear that I don't need him there. I don't simply kick walls and tell myself he's an evil freak for not valuing me. Tony's a gigasperg that lost his wife, and has to grapple with wanting her back as well as facing the daughter "responsible" for killing her who by nature looks just like her. Annie's a lower level autist whose limited social life (which until then was made up of hospital workers, the dead, and ferrymen) involved a best friend who got caught on the concept that he's a gigantic dick, and a ... whatever you'd call Eglamore who didn't like the guy for stealing his girl, fucking her to death, and seemingly bailing on the kid.
>>153764052are you fucking retarded? Sonic in the UK is why so many people still believe the SNES failed in Europe.
>>153763197oh no tom is gonna get cancelled
>>153764125The problem with Tony isn't that he's not evil, it's that every single issue caused by Tony's tism was hand waved away. We should've actually seen Tony earn the relationship he currently has with Kat and Annie instead of having Annie LITERALLY turn to the audience and explain that it's fine now and you're a retard if you care about actually seeing character development in this character focused slice of life magic school comic.
>>153764334Bro, I'm not from Britain, why should I know?
>>153764332>My dad is just some guy that never should've had kidsOn that we can agree. If he had had the good sense to wear a rubber, I wouldn't have to talk to your worthless ass. >>153764329Being an abusive cunt is not excusable under any circumstance.
>>153764408because is basic trivia on a comics board.
>>153764399The shit with Kat is easily the most egregious of this crap. >tells Rey in no uncertain terms that he should fucking murder Tony at the first opportunity>spends five minutes with him and suddenly they're best friendsY'know, this kind of writing would normally get a character labelled with a certain term... I believe it starts with an 'm'.
>>153764329A lot of terrible parents aren't deliberately abusive because they hate their kids. Doesn't really make people more okay with the terrible parenting.
>>153763234Motor oil now needs licence too in bongland?
>>153764445>>153764543This is the kind of surface level shit I'm talking about. The man, isolated from his few friends from the court, just lost his wife and thinks his daughter hated him for it. Yet he still cared for her for a number of years before she moved to Gunnerkrigg and in his mind, was better off without him in her life. Literally everything else was (fake?) psychopomps tricking him into putting Annie into a coma, and the Court forcing him to bring Annie under control, by blackmailing him with her total expulsion. The guy also stood up to Coyote while he was going Godzilla on Court buildings, for Annie's sake. Annie being moved to a big white room was a bit extreme, but people are overlooking that she was years behind on her education because the Court deliberately let her cheat as forementioned blackmail. She fucked up.
Wow, self-aware humor.If Tom were truly self-aware he could do a joke about how shit the comic has become.
>>153764125>Metal Gear Solid is real, but HP is not
>>153764332>My dad is just some guy that never should've had kidsIf you ever type shit like that, you can just stop the post there because you are a monstrously disgusting sack of shit who will never had an opinion on anything that needs to be taken seriously.
>>153763842https://www.chrysoprax.org/gunnerkrigg/results?term=scottishDoes Rey have a scottish accent? I always envisioned him with one for some reason.Nope, Kat does though.Kat has a Scottish accent? Does she get that from her father, or...what? She's lived in the Court all her life, so why would her accent be any different from Annie's?she got it from her father. It is a very mild accent.Who would you cast to voice-act a Gunnerkrigg Court animated series? (or) Who would you cast for a Gunnerkrigg Court live-action movie (with awesome CGI Coyote)?I don't know of many voice actors by name, so I don't know. I would want the actors to have their original accents though. For example, an English voice actress for Annie and a Scottish voice actress for Kat, etc.I'm an American reader, so I tend to picture all the characters speaking like Americans. It's kind of jarring to realize they actually speak with British accents. Are there any characters, other than Anja and Gamma, who don't speak in a British accent?Paz is Spanish. Coyote speaks with a strange accent too, and Ysengrin just sounds angry. Jones doesn't have an accent, Donny sounds Scottish (so does Kat, but not so much). There are quite a few accents.Also, https://www.chrysoprax.org/gunnerkrigg/results?term=accent>What kind of accent do you have Tom?>A rubbish one.
>>153763267>>153765311I think HP exists in the comic, but their characters are blanking on it because Zimmy herself doesn't know of it. She's not a book reader and doesn't seem interested in tv.
>>153765075Even over-the-air tv """requires""" a licence.
>>153763842>Annie specifically has a Yorkshire accent. Surma's side of the family is from oop north.Surma's accent is also spelled out in speech bubbles. Sometimes.It's pretty inconsistent, but Annie always spoke normally.
>>153764540idk, it seemed like all that was the point? to introduce Tony as this stiff asshole, and then slowly explore that there's something weirder going on with him. when he speaks casually to Frannie on this page, it comes as a shock, but waaaay earlier in the comic in a flashback he spoke to Donnie like a normal kid about not being sure if he liked Brinnie. in The Mind Cage he acknowledges a mysterious phenomenon where he can't talk like a normal person if he's around multiple people.
>The "ANNIE ANNIE" on the previous page WASN'T someone trying to get her attention like we were speculating>Annie just had two Annies on her mindFucks sake
>>153765230>A BLOO HOO MY LIFE WAS HARD, STOP GETTING MAD AT ME FOR TAKING IT OUT ON MY OWN KIDNah. Tony belongs in the trash.
there was a whole chapter about it. all the side characters chimed in
>>153765853Tony has not taken out anything on his daughter.
a whole chapter about it
a good chapter. lots of introspection and this moment with Paz is great character writing
>>153765410>Gunnerkrigg Court animated seriesThat reminds me. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! The fandom was already fed up and depleting rapidly by this point, so that was never gonna happen. And this was before Mind Cage. Get FUCKED, Siddell.
>>153765866I love Cvet.
whole chapter where everyone acknowledges how weird he is
>>153765853The closest he did to 'taking it out on her' was during a full-blown panic attack, and he regretted it instantly.
>>153765873Go fuck yourself, you lying sack of shit.
>>153765934Go to therapy.
>>153765929>B-but he felt bad about it! I very clearly recall we as a society rather definitively deciding that such a thing is irrelevant.
THE MOST IMPORTANT TONY PAGEREAD THIS DUMBASSHe says in fucking english, a language you understand, with pictures even, that there's a weird cage around his brain that he has no control over
>>153765875>>153765938Yes, an entire chapter of Tom wanking Poochie and screaming bitch tears at that readers for not liking him. Tony needs to go back to his home planet already.
literal weeks spent discussing Tony's weird affliction. he doesn't speculate here but there's magic stuff in the comic that might be causing this thing he's suffering from
>>153765980BEING AUTISTIC DOES NOT EXCUSE BEING A BAD PERSON. Tony tried to murder his own daughter. I literally do not and cannot give a haypenny shit about what else is said about this character. He tried to murder his own daughter.
>>153765998>Tony-hater outs himself as a speedreaderAnd there we have it.
>>153765984>>153765998You are asserting this as if it was true.In the latter case it clearly isn't.You are like a child who has not realized other people have other perspectives. On top of that, you are behaving extremely annoyingly.Seriously, you need to fix your issues. Allow yourself to fix whatever it is that makes you act like a child.
>>153765970If you don't know things like that happen in ANY relationship, then I don't know which planet you're living on.
>>153763197Wow it really is the perfect universe.
>>153765998>Tony tried to murder his own daughter.Troll or a complete fucking moron. Did you skip the bit where he was tricked into doing that and had no idea of Annie's involvement? Nevermind that he was grateful to Zimmy for punching him to make it stop.
>>153765404Sorry about whatever hurt you lol but that's hardly rare or special. My mom is also some guy that never should've had kids, she was just too churchwashed to abort. Sex is rather easy and heavily incentivised and you don't need loisense to bonk and make a baby by accident, so there are many people on this earth like my parents. What's your damage exactly?
>>153765998>Tony tried to murder his own daughter.The comic expressly shows that this wasn't the case and that he was completely mortified when he discovered that what he was doing could hurt Annie. Have you just been in a coma since the days where people hated Tony and DID think he tried to murder her?
>>153766037>other people have other perspectivesI don't care about Tony's perspective. He tried to murder his own daughter. >>153766098I don't care if the psychopomps allegedly tricked him into it(we only have his word on that), he tried to murder his own daughter. >>153766266Feeling bad about trying to murder one's own offspring does not excuse it. I don't care, and I will never care about how Tom tries to justify this, because it is in all circumstances inexcusable. Fuck off.
>>153765970People hated the Anakin thing for character assassination and attempted actual murder. Tony being horrible with people and kind of a dick with shock isn't the same thing. If nothing else I do like Donald bring the aspywhisperer and and to help Annie in that one chapter.
I now see why the Gunnerkrigg Court fandom is so fucking dead. Almost everyone who stayed is a slop eating retard who will eat up any stupid thing the comic feeds them.
Oh it's just bait, never mind. Admirable attempt but you're trying too hard to make things fit into the logic now.
>>153766423>Tony apologist cannot comprehend that his actions, regardless of context, make him unlikable... I kinda hope your parents did beat you. I cannot imagine any other reason why you would have this mindset. The only other explanation is that you are also an abusive asshole.
>>153766404Do you know what 'try to do' means?Murdering Annie wasn't his goal and killing Annie wasn't an accepted or known side-effect.He tried to revive Surma. That's all he tried to do.You seem like a very nasty person with a very nasty and childish mindset.
>>153766404>>153766422>The actual story on the pages is less important than my 'interpretation' Social media brain.
>>153766470>Do you know what 'try to do' means?Do you? The fuck is this Sideshow Bob shit you're throwing at me right now? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQQPNQ0PFSc>blah blah blahYou ain't listening, mack. I don't care about the retconned bullshit circumstances. Tony is a trash person who belongs in the bin.
Don't reply to it you bakas.
I love Tony. He's a total chad, considering his situation.
>>153766532The "actual" story on the pages is fake and gay. It's blatant retconning. Tom went way too far with his shock value reveal sequence, and had to quickly scramble to make Tony seem not so bad when the readers got genuinely pissed off. And the attempt failed by the way, what with most readers fucking off to read something that isn't actively insulting them. >>153766585Annie, you have two perfectly good canine dads. Stop defending the abusive human one.
Why does anyone still bother making these threads for every update? What's the point? Nobody cares anymore.
>>153766644I care.
>>153766659Why?
>>153766673The characters are all very well written, except for Kat currently, but Kat might retroactively have been written well if Tom cinches it.
>>153766644These threads regularly get over 100 replies though, clearly people care. Even if it's not a positive kind of caring.
>>153766601>Steal someone's girl easily>Sexy free spirited redhead says "haha btw if you cum inside me I'll die">Still hoses down her living flameBased impregnator.
>>153766644Consistent updates are pretty rare for a webcomic and it makes discussion (usually) pleasant. Despite the doomers, coomers, and trolls, the comic is still fine, and I still enjoy sticking with it.
>>153767284My headcanon is that the fire spirit makes the person it inhabits forget about the risks in real time. Annie should be really, really hesitant about getting into a relationship after watching her mom die, but instead she's shown to be pretty thirsty. It unironically might even give the person it's with a creampie fetish since it needs that to keep on living.
>>153765866she always was a nosy sassy bimbo in the end
>>153763197Had a sensible chuckle over this.
>>153763842How the hell is Annie from Yorkshire, she hasn't once gone 'Ay-up' or replaced The with a singular 't'.
>>153768414Because Tom has some bug up his ass about phonetic accents in comics. He explained this in his author commentary videos that he stopped doing because he was too much of a coward to talk about Mind Cage.
I wanna see Kat already!And Noa, as well.
>>153764214There are two major problems with how Tony was handled:1. No real conflict once things were explained and Tony is not actually very important in the greater scheme of things. His introduction ended up being for shock value that blew over.2. "The Mind Prison" is poorly explained and permanently Annie-specific, in a super creepy way. "The *physicality* of it." It's stupid and unfair that Tony can't be emotionally expressive around his daughter for a fundamental mental defect, and the story just moved past it.
>>153764332>whatever you'd call Eglamore who didn't like the guy for stealing his girl, fucking her to death, and seemingly bailing on the kid.Reverse Snape.
>>153770175>The *physicality* of it.This is creepy and incestuous and unfortunately the comic is just chock full of this subtext. Possibly down to Tom lusting after his own creations.
>>153767339She's really not that thirsty. She was into Jack for some petty revenge, wanted to fuck a hot elf, and has otherwise been pretty tame. A never-confirmed thing for Jones (she seemed to be nonplussed about seeing her nude despite anons wanking interpretations) and thinking Smitty is handsome. >>153770222Snape? Who's that guy? Never heard of him.>>153770441I guess it'd feel creepy if I ever got the idea Tony had a thing for his kid. It's not really his fault she's a reincarnated flame elemental that's a pretty good copy of her mother. Doesn't help she copies her mom's makeup to honor her. I see it less as "oh god my hot daughter looks just like my sexy dead wife" and more "I can't get over my dead wife and her living visage walking around isn't a fantastic feeling." That being said I wouldn't be shocked if she had a thing for her dad, but my money's more on her having a thing for Donald, since he speaks Tony-ese.
>>153766159>trying to turn shit back around when **you are literally the person seething about your horrible life**No anon, you're just a resentful idiot and that's why your non-opinions can be effortlessly discarded.
>>153771415I don't think that Tony is or is supposed to be attracted to Annie, but the way that Tom has him describe her is creepy. And he's far from the only father figure with whom Annie has sexual subtext (Reynard, Ysengrim, even Eglamore).
>>153763197reminds me of those days when people kept comparing this to Harry Potter
>>153774665the backstory does have elements of "what if Snape cucked James?"
>>153774705to be honest, I thought the extent of the comparisons went as far as "it's set at a mysterious, supernatural school" and "it's British"
>>153774665Friendly reminder that this was an actual guest comic from late 2007 that's still hosted on the site
>>153774868Pretty much. And they were made around the same time. And Harry Potter was ultra omega successful, so obviously it's not far fetched to assume a lot of people were riding its coattails.
>>153775611Hating Harry Potter was a popular pastime of webcomics back then.
Another one for my shrine dedicated to the Angel.
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>>153779252Holy fuck that's incredible. God damn.
>>153783266It's mid as fuck
>>153779252why is she so flat
>>153783847She's a goddess
