previous >>153789865We discuss possibility of bonus scenes after movie drops. Gummigoo is out there.
Do you think Michael actually said "faggot" when Jax did, or did he fake it since it'd be censored?
Evil Ragatha needs to insult me and bully me and tease me...
>>153792606This artist is a scumbag.
Ribbun is spiritually canon
Jax's fate is too much because it means the the other abstractions that actually didn't deserve it are trapped alone in their own hellscapes
0/10 show jax didnt even rape anyone
I combined hooves + that one anon who wanted ass, I hope this is satisfying
>>153792640they all deserved it for being weak minded
I want to watch the finale, but the only subbed showing of the last episode is at 10 PM, so I probably won't get out until around midnight.I just want an earlier subbed screening.
>>153792606genuinly GO FUCK YOURSELFCRUEL STUPID GUMMI FUCKIM GLAD HE GOT NO SCREENTIME YOU PIECE OF SHIT
>>153792645nothing could stop me
Goose said ages ago on a stream that she "likes to think that Jax named Gangle" and that ends up being a significant step in his journey to assholery in the finale."Likes to think" makes it sound like it's just headcanon. Which makes me wonder how much of this was actually written at the beginning vs just being vaguelly mapped out and completed as she went along. Because episode 9 screams "I really care about this mindrape sequence, so let's go all in on that, but I haven't really figured out the rest yet"
>>153792645holy
>>153792640If Kinger enters Queenie's mind as Pomni did he'll find fragmented ego of his wife screaming from every direction.
>>153792636it pisses me off their dynamic wasn't explored more.
Is Gummigoo still there? We haven't seen him in any adventures in the credits. And since Caine isn't as powerfull after losing Bubble we can't be sure he can even recreate Gummigoo or any other intelligent self aware NPC.
>>153792606Now that the dust has settled, did Jax deserve to be a troon cuckdog for all of eternity?
Can we all admit now that funnybunny was the most boring ship and it's good Gooseworx didn't go that direction?
>>153792667no
>>153792665Even if Caine recreates him he is not the same guy Pomni met.
>>153792667Jax in the Finale, absolutely. Jax as seen in the previous episodes, not really.
>>153792667while he didnt deserve it, he wanted it so good for him
>>153792667Yes.
>>153792671Gooseworx did go to that direction and made the romance eternal by killing one.
>>153792640>Scratch died in real life due to tumor and abstracts after Caine mess with him>Rest of his collegues beside Kinger abstracts due to seeing this world as a nightmare when Scratch abstract>Queenie abstract becuase she coudn't take worrying about her kids>Ribbit and Kaufmo abstract after Jax reject them after gaining their friendship
>>153792671Funnybunny was lame af because it was either loser men projecting onto Jax wanting a woman to "save them" or loser women projecting onto Pomni wanting to fix a broken man.
The song should have been "For Once In My Life " instead tbqh.
>>153792671Said the yurifag, projecting.
>>153792652The discussion is whether Pomni becomes a lesbian or ressurect Gummigoo. Jax arc is finished like every's villain story.
>nooseworx deleted xir twitterbruh, look at this doodwait till you see the- oh no no no no ooooooooHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHALOOK AT THE TOP OF HIS HEADLOOK AT HIS LIPS
>>153792697but funnyfunny is yuri
>>153792712
>>153792652>grrr ARF WOOF ARGAWARGA WOOF BOWOW WOOF WOOF ARF BARK WOOF ARF BARK BOWOWOW ARF BARK BARK BARKPomni come get your dog he's not allowed in the threads
>>153792712BOOM
Here's the sketch version too because I think the ass looks better in the sketch >>153792654Stop you from what>>153792656Praise the Ragathass
>>153792688Shipping anyone is projection, so is turning a character gay or trans, especially when it makes zero sense
>>153792712funnybunny FUCK>>153792706still up for me
>>153792706No she didn't
>>153792675She only knew him for few hours, the only difference now is he won't know he's just an NPC. I guess Pomni doesn't want to play with someone's life and get him to another existensial crisis just so she could have a boyfriend.
>Jax by far has the most focus and personal drama on display, dictating a large amount of screentime >Still experiences soul death which is often alluded to as a fate worse than death earlier in the show, and has what remains of his body treated as a hapless pet>The other characters genuinely seem to be happier with him goneThis HAS to be a meta cry for help right?
>>153792645kek, good stuff
>>153792724nice ass, baby
>>153792606Pretty sure that croc literal who is just feral and forgotten now though...
>>153792686Love in this case is platonic, sperg
>>153792679>>153792720>Fucks up the post the first timeKek.
I also have a lobotomy fetish like Gooseworkx, i should make my own Tadc show, with blackjack and hookers
>>153792727>she
>>153792745i think blackjack sucks
>>153792731Bubble dies too.
>create insanely popular YouTube series that everyone can watch for free>for the finale decide to instead charge people to see it or be spoiled to hell and back>it gets leaked weeks ahead of schedule and tons of people cancel they’re ticketsI can’t see this as anything but pure karma.
ooooo lil troony is saddened that hack writing has consequences BAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You can say ANYTHING about Jax. But least, he made us laugh.
>>153792744yeah I'm too tired to be posting
>>153792741Just like it was platonic when Pomni called Ragatha a good friend amirite :^)
This is the official ship tierlist. Try to argue against it. Protip: You can'tRibbun > RagaPom > Abstrabbit > Abstragedy > RibbonRags > Who fucking cares >>>>>>> dogshit >>>>>>> funnybunny
I watched the last episode.The fuck are people going on about?It was good. I liked it.Especially Caine's ending.
>>153792760We laughed at him but not with him
>>153792757>>153792758I feel like people wouldn't be assblasted about the finale if they didn't put in theatres.
>>153792767He really was a...Funny Bunny (TM).
>>153792773>The fuck are people going on about?Be specific
>>153792758Good, then sell it off to someone that actually cares about all the plot holes left behind, retarded nigger.
>>153792731The entire show is a message to stop spiraling in despair. Literally everything would got better if Jax already forgave himself after his mom incident. But his insecurity led to Ribbit abstracting. He didn't stop and led to Kaufmo abstracting. Then he kept going until he abstracted and only after that he realised how much he fucked up. IN real life you aren' saved by magic of Disney happy ending or by Jesus appearing in the sky. You suffer the sonsequences wasting your life in a prison or losing your life and getting to hell
Just woke up, did English version leak?
>>153792731I've seen some people argue that Jax represents Goose as a man and him 'dying' is symbolic of the transitionBut that could also be nonsense, sometimes life gets easier when a toxic person is out of your life even if you feel bad that you couldn't help them.
>>153792758He's upset by the fans of the series being unhinged dipshits. This will happen with any animated work that caters to their communities regardless of writing quality.
>>153792775A jester knows his/her roles, and Jax the Jester did his/her part well.
>>153792785Goose, go back to dilating
G'morning anon whats for breakfast
>>153792757I doubt Goose wanted that, Glitch really threw her to the wolves
they should have left caine dead and have bubble give them admin powers
>>153792780Fuck, meant for >>153792760. Post I accidentally replied to clearly applies to me too.
>>153792769It was. Every relationship in the show is platonig beside Abstragedy which was confirmed as romantic and FunnyGummy whish was a one sided crush (confirmed by Ragatha and Caine calling it "flirting")
>>153792710>feels cruel and mean-spiritedIt also kind of comes out of nowhere. We saw Caine present Jax with his nightmare, which is Pomni, Ribbit and Kaufmo forcibly revealing who he is underneath. But he has no regret over actively pushing Ribbit and Kaufmo into abstraction?The reason why it feels fanfictiony and malicious is because who Jax "is" in Episode 9 is different from who he is in all other episodes. Even moments that worked well before, like Jax having his meltdown in front of Pomni, go from being something out of the ordinary he does when pushed to a breaking point into something he does basically all the time, exactly like a fanfic does with a character moment. It even kind of invalidates the "I'll be back later/be back later" moment, because it has been downgraded from a moment of understanding to "something Pomni has to say on a schedule or else Jax fails." The entire ending curves around enabling this moment to the detriment of everything else, which is why it comes off as malicious.
>>153792724stop me from pounding the fuck out of those ragdoll cheeks hell yeaaaaaaahhhhhhhh
>>153792805Deserved.I hope he goes back to flipping burgers.
>>153792760Yes. I'm laughing at his yabba dabba doo meme fate. Krillin could only dream of this happening to him while other men rape 18.
>>153792785But the execution makes it seem like a cautionary tale at best.
>>153792757I GUESS YOU COULD SAYTHEIR GOOSE IS COOKED
Vixen won, but at what cost?
>>153792788No.You'd think it'd be an easier leak, though, since you don't have to put out the visuals with your name plastered all over itAlso this will be forgotten in 5 years, a footnote about how indie animation quickly became indistinguishable from the old studio bullshit
>>153792773Caine, Ragatha, Gangle and Zooble had good endings. Pomni was bittersweet since she didn't get Gummigoo. Ending was mostly bad for Gummigoo and terrible for Jax and all abstracted.
>>153792731>The other characters genuinely seem to be happier with him goneWell, he is a bit of a cunt.
Why do you think goose decided to not have some sort of "cure" for abstraction?
I feel like I've been here before, about a creator, and their fanbases being rabid and unhinge. Honestly, I'm surprised Rebecca Sugar and Lauren Faust managed to stay calm, and didn't get that much into trouble.
Why are americans so obsessed with cuckoldry and trannies anyway
>>153792802Before breakfast, we can't forget to feed Jax. Get the dog food.
>>153792731Could be. Could also just be a story about an asshole and his consequences. Not every protagonist needs to be the hero or redeemed. Steven Universe era of media has spoiled you, bring back morally gray or plain evil protagonists having justice served with bittersweet endings.
I think it's clear from Ep 8 that Jax was using the idea that none of it was real to push away all the guilt he had for essentially killing his two best friends by being a giga-autist, and the second that was up he was toast. Pomni gave him enough will to keep going to help out his friends one last time in distracting Caine, but there was really only so far he could go before that guilt consumed him and he'd abstract. Him abstracting so early into ep 9 was because he gave his last hurrah in episode 8, and there is no more he could've done in the situation he had created for himself.>>153792806Bubble died with Caine as a part of him, but yeah I think Caine coming back was a bit lame. I'd prefer an ending where Kinger just teaches them all his coding shit and they become masters of the circus.>>153792825I think Pomni had already moved on from Gummigoo, the one she knew no longer existed and probably couldn't unless they purposefully recreated him, which would be kind of cruel.
>>153792773>What if I just lobotomized myself and removed every personality flaw I have?Caine should have stayed dead.
now that the thing is over i can officially say all the shippers are completely retarded. jax is clearly a raging misogynist who would never be in a healthy relationship with a woman
>>153792758What response?
>>153792824>a footnote about how indie animation quickly became indistinguishable from the old studio bullshitYou can say a lot about the ending, but this seems more like the result of giving creators creative freedom than studio interference.
>>153792830Rebecca Sugar and Lauren Faust were a little more experienced being cartoon creators and knew to keep some distance with the fanbaseit's funny that both SU and TADC both had a racism controversy and it's the only time I remember Sugar directly addressing a controversy
ooohhh noooo not le hecking poor troonerino using the show he got his hands on to promote his fetishization and mental illness how could this have happened think of the manchildren!(himself)
>>153792845You seem to assume that shipping must always result in a happy, well adjusted relationship.
>>153792830Andrew Hussie was also pretty good at dodging the worst of his Homestuck fandom.I shudder to think what Invader Zim would have been like if it were made 15 years later.
>>153792838Then living forever without a husband and children is an eternal Torment. It would be better for Caine to mercyfully deleted the abstracted and all humans and then himself as the oblivion is the only positive goal to reach.
>>153792829Narcissistic self pity is more effective if you catastrophy everything. Making abstraction fixable ruins that angle.
>>153792847When she was told the movie was leaked, she posted that she didn't care. People got upset by this commemt so she deleted it and then made that post. Goose is checked out.
>>153792857no im saying that the fans are morons for not embracing how toxic if not abusive any ships involving him would be
Link to the movie?
>>153792845Sounds like the perfect match for the modern woman then.
>>153792825Pomni didn't like Gummigoo like that. She hardly knew him
>>153792830>I feel like I've been here before, about a creator, and their fanbases being rabid and unhinge.Sports fandom in a nutshell
Goose's initial comment on the movie being leaked makes sense given that she didn't even wanna put the damn thing in theaters.It read as insensitive to a fan who bought tickets, but that was Glitch's doing not hers.
>>153792792By consequence it also ended up showing their thoughts, you can't deny that part of feeling like this comes from the public not liking it for all kinds of reasons
>>153792868Oh man, is there a picture of that post? Also, sorry, but Goose's "she" privileges have been revoked.
>>153792731>The other characters genuinely seem to be happier with him goneThey cried at his death, they are just endure the loss and move on with Caine's magical help.
>>153792573>trying to actJust matching the energy of the post I’m replying to, confrontational and above it all. I can convey myself in other ways, but that felt appropriate.>Yes, being confused and in the dark is FUNIt has its appeal but1. So does active viewing from experience2. The more experience you have the less you are able to exist in the dark without the author going out of their way to subvert what they are doing for a cheap shock at the expense of the narrative>this is what fosters your questioningPredicting plot points or trying to solve a mystery in the narrative is not nearly the exclusive reason to actively engage with a story. TADC for example has really engaging character animation as a notable feature of its production. But generally you can observe editing, cinematography, dialogue writing, pacing, characterization, music and sound, performances, everything that comes together to execute on the story. Two filmmakers with the same script can produce wildly different experiences, all of that is meaningful. Even at the script level, just because your media saturated mind can visualize the trajectory of the tentpoles of the story, doesn’t mean you can visualize the specifics of how to get “there” or what “there” will be like when you do. This complaint is exhausting because it’s usually coming from a place of chasing a high in your youth rather than something wrong with the film. At a certain level of experience, predictable is good, unpredictable is usually a writer failing to deliver or forcing a twist for shock value at the expense of story. Learning how a magic trick works due to experience does change your relation to it, but that change is not a fault in the trick, nor is it the end of appreciating it. It unlocks a deeper capacity to appreciate the performance of that trick. I would suggest that this is a deeper level of entertainment than the initial uneducated shock.
>>153792829It would make sense? Why can't Caine just delete their abstracted version, recreate the character like he did in the beginning with Scratch and then update his memory? The show doesn't make sense because it work on computer programming themes that should allow it to work.
>>153792870But they are? Unless you're on a different side of the internet, half the appeal of Jax ships is the toxicity and doomed bullshit.
>tfw i did not invest in Funnybunny coin
>>153792888Crying at his death doesn't imply they aren't having an easier time without him.
>>153792785Eh. The way it's framed it's like he just had to hold on a couple weeks for their god to come back who is conveniently reformed now.
>>153792606My negas has the ENG version been leaked yet or no?I wanna rewatch but ptbr sounds so much like russian and it's throwing me off
At least I don't have to feel bad about not wanting to support Glitch anymore after this whole shitshow. Shit business decision, shit handling of the material, shit finale. Nothing else they've made is worth of watching, and I hope they crash and burn.
>>153792810>It even kind of invalidates the "I'll be back later/be back later" moment, because it has been downgraded from a moment of understanding to "something Pomni has to say on a schedule or else Jax fails."Well, it was. Jax was a ticking time bomb, and they all knew it.
>>153792874>her life trauma based on her entire life brain scans was losing Gummigoo>she didnt like him like that>Caine says she flirted with him in ep2
>>153792896I mean, it still won in a bittersweet way, people firing of cuck memes are just coping
>>153792635Explain?
>>153792894either we are on different sides of the internet or we have have very different notions of what abuse looks like
>>153792731>This HAS to be a meta cry for help right?Either that or a mean "I figured out how to heal and get my life together, so let's imagine what would have happened if I'd been trapped in a hell perfectly designed to reinforce all my worst instincts, relegating me to a permanent state of suffering and destruction until I can't take it anymore and fucking die never learning how to not let that happen"
>>153792913Is being a literal dog really bittersweet? Seems more kinky than sweet.
>>153792862>Andrew Hussie was also pretty good at dodging the worst of his Homestuck fandomYes and no. In his opinion, the worst of his fanbase was Problem Sleuth fans who disliked when the entire comic became about shipping. Then, pandering to the tumblr crowd got him caught up in the SJW vs anti-SJW wars. There was a moment where he spitefully confirmed that a character was caucasian to spite the SJWs, then backed down after the proto-chuds gloated too hard. Then he went kind of crazier and became a recluse for a while, among other things.
>>153792913>bark bark bark barkSorry, I don't speak dog.
>You two having fun in there? May I come in? Just pretend that I am not there
>>153792910There wasn't anything else to draw on, since Pomni is a boring character. She doesn't have deep-seated issues like the others. I agree that it *looks* like she was flirting, but in context that makes no sense. I think she was just being awkward/weird around him because she didn't know how to act around him, given he got fucking deleted right in front of her, and now doesn't know who she is.
I'm tired of twitter retards saying Gangle is black. She's a fucking saar.
>>153792910Gotta love how tunnel-visioned shippers getLet me guess, you still think it was only Gummigoo and because of him alone
I don’t like the message of Jax being irredeemable because it means if people in the audience relate to Jax then they might feel irredeemable too
>>153792810Finale Jax is just an entirely different character to me, there's no way I can't see him like that. Finale Jax did have everything coming to him and deserved what happened, but that version of Jax is just not what I followed up to that point. It's fucking insane.
Gummifags being even more deluded to the end than trontards
>>153792936>GLUCK GLUCK GLUCK GLUCKHere, luckily for you I also speak faggot so you can understand my post
>>153792940She woudnt act like a lustfull dog in ep4 over him
>>153792882They're illiterate spoiled twats, Goose should have already accepted the worse from the start. TADC having sinple character designs and bright primary color scheme is a recipe for mentally ill people attaching themselves to it.
>>153792941That doesn't look like Jax.
>>153792952>Pomni is a lustful dog>dogThis is how Jax can still win.
Just here to laugh at all the retards who argued it wouldn’t be a SOMA ending.
>>153792943It's Goose judging themselves on a public platform, audience be damned.
>>153792930He also made characters trans after the story ended to appease the SJWs headcanons because he made some dumb sweepstakesThen afterwards he left to work on a different project, not even finishing to fulfill all the promisesHonestly its a cautionary tale not to engage or let the fans anywhere near the writing
>>153792952You mean she wouldn't act super weird and uncomfortable around a dude she saw get exploded into confetti a couple weeks ago?
>>153792890(Cont)>to say the very reason for its existence wasn't the twists and turnsVery clearly TADC was intended as a story to convey a worldview/philosophy, it’s a theme first, character second, plot third kind of work. The mystery bait was present but far from the point of the story.>You're sounding like the "I like my bone chilling slowburn horror without jumpscares" rnI don’t understand the comparison. Being surprised is fun, but prioritizing surprise to the extent that you lament your experience with film as a curse that prevents it from occurring anymore is your problem. Writers can’t keep up an arms race with an increasingly experienced populace without compromising what works. Learn to break out of plotfaggotry and start appreciating the construction of film. You can’t be a kid again.
>>153792946I think goose only ever planned the pilot and the ending, so Jax was always going to get shit on by the narrative, but the way he was developed during the middle section of the story just doesn't fit anymore
>>153792957That's the actor listed in the credits.
>>153792966No no, you see when they got teleported tron style into the digital circus, a physical clone was made to ensure they weren't missed on the outside. Trust the plan!
>pomni always watching over it's bittersweet, there is no cure, but I guess the knowledge that this particular abstraction is jax is comforting enough for her
>>153792938Crazy how we created a better version of everything with just these stupid memes.
>>153792954But Anon, my sweet summer manchild, that's exactly who Goose tried to cater until the end Just like Toby and look how that's been working out also
ill be real with all of you my interest in this show has completely disappeared and it was fun reading people arguing about it but i think im gonna go jerk off to art of jax raping ragatha in the butt i saw in another thread and then never think about this show ever again. good fucking riddance i hope glitch goes bankrupt
>>153792950>smacks you with newspaperBad! That's a bad Jaxfag! Go lay down!
>>153792991Good riddance to you too
>>153792930He dated women in his fandom and took their advice. This isn't misogyny, it's just what happened.
>>153792627Goose held him at gunpoint to say it.
>>153792929The same way Kinger and Queenie are bittersweet.
>>153792985She can get inside his mind at anytime methinks
>>153792991Can I see?
>"I'd move on, and probably forget about you"Reminder that phrase by Jax is made to be a shock for its coldness, only for everyone in the Circus to do exactly that with him and be treated like a good thing
>>153792997>GLUCK GLUCK GLUCKHopefully you can understand this better
>>153792998no dumbass good riddance to the show you people are chill
>>153792810>Even moments that worked well before, like Jax having his meltdown in front of Pomni, go from being something out of the ordinary he does when pushed to a breaking point into something he does basically all the time, exactly like a fanfic does with a character moment.True. And the fact that he almost abstracted right after that because he realised he was repeating a pattern... but then he just doesn't. And starts healing all of a sudden for no reason, something he's never made progress on before. And then, oops, nevermind, he's abstracted for real this time. Buuut also he's alive long enough to regret it. Let's all watch him die in fear, and then put his corpse on a leash.>It even kind of invalidates the "I'll be back later/be back later" moment, because it has been downgraded from a moment of understanding to "something Pomni has to say on a schedule or else Jax fails."Yeah, when he finally got to a point of being the one to approach her instead of her approaching him, when they were all in an even bigger crisis, she suddenly just didn't fucking say anything. Of course he wandered off and abstracted, even walking up to her in that situation was a lot, and for the first time she just blanks him for no reason, because the plot needed her to.But he's the one the plot punishes for "too little, too late" and Pomni walks away with zero survivors guilt after making sure the dead guy has his life rubbed in his nose before he disappears.It feels like everything was just written to achieve maximum sad, but with no thought as to what's actually trying to be said by doing this. It's just suffering for suffering's sake.
>>153792974Sure it does. There's no indication Jax had changed in a meaningful way. The second Pomni got too close, he shut it down. He thought about reaching out to Gangle, but couldn't do it. He's a tragic character who couldn't overcome his fatal flaw.
>>153793002That's much more comparable to real world tragedy and loss.Jax's' fate is depicted like some man made hell.
>>153792914You have eyes, right?
>>153793008No treats for you!
Hmm I think I should also count on creators that got fed up by their fanbase and creation and rushed the ending.First Fujjmoto and now Goose, wonder who's next
>>153792706That's this guy right? (From previous thread)
>>153793004No anon I think that's just a one time thing, Jax abstracted relatively early which means some of his sanity was bound to survive but over the course of time... yeah I doubt it that's why it's bittersweet
>>153792989i shudder to imagine what it'll be like when the chapter part of deltarune releases
>>153793005yeah here
i dont care, still love the show, still love ragatha, will still be dreaming about evil ragatha or princess loolilalu adventures
>Jax's initial abstraction is peaceful and he's going to reunite with his dead friends>His real abstraction is him having a panic attack even though he was making progress as a person
>>153793032If it even does, isn't Toby still injured to fuck and barely working it himself He might fucking die trying to make Deltarune while people are still rioting about whatever the fuck ends up happening next
>>153793041Ragatha is the one good thing to come out of this shit show.
>>153793040omg I'm gonna abstract
>>153792880Yeah, as much as I think she's a sick puppy for the finale, I do feel for her
>>153793006>and probably forget about youThey didn't forget him, its the entire reason why they keep his abstracted body in the tent. Its as close to a proper grave as anybody in the circus has gotten.
>>153793043This bothered me too. It's like the gang made it worse at the very last second.
Who let Jax out?Who, who, who, who, who?Who let Jax out?Who, who, who, who, who?Who let Jax out?Who, who, who, who, who?Who let Jax out?
>>153793027with him calming down inside the tent there's might still be a way in somehow, you might get less Jax in there but there should still be something in there
I enjoyed the show and the ending.
crikey
>>153793032god damn it i meant "last chapter of deltarune" what the fuck was that.
>>153793047*Blocks your path*Ahem
Its okay, white girls fuck dogs, funnybunnt can still happen
>>153792943Yeah, I feel so bad for all the messed up Jax teens watching
>>153792880Yeah, an indie publisher is still a publisher at the end of the day, Glitch still pushed the monetization of the series and it backfiring is fully on them, ofc goose doesn't and shouldn't give a fuck
>When the Pilot came out, there was a lot of art of Pomni and Abstracted Kaufmo >With the Finale, FunnyBunny will get a lot of art of Pomni and Abstracted JaxIt all comes around full circle.
>>153793047hammer, your balls
>>153793068Deltatroon ended? Did Chris fucked the deer or the purple lizard?
One last doodle before I sleep >>153792733Thank you
>>153793059I don't know if basically having his corpse inside a tent like a dog on display is actually better than putting him on the basement
>>153793082rest well, mi'lord
>>153793059If anything that's going to desensitize them to his death. Specially because there's a likelyhood they will know that dog longer than they knew Jax, as time passes.
>>153793080Deltarune has 3 chapters left, and they’re getting pushed out about 1-3 years apartSo I’d say deltarune will end somewhere between 2027 and 2031
Futa Pomni can and will happen now. Ragatha's ASS is not ready
>>153793080both, deltatroon ends on a 3 hour clip of the three of them having a threesome and then it cuts to gaster goatse with a shadow crystal wedged in his asshole
>>153793043we didn't see jax abstract. I imagine it was in similar fashion to last time, except this time he didn't get woken up and he fully gave into it.
This is genuinely the biggest "stuck between a rock and a hard place" dilemma to me. Jax's treatment in the movie was insane and he got fucked over so hard when he really didn't deserve it, but with his actions in the movie, he did actually deserve it, and now I don't want to see him come back ever or for there to be some chance of him being unabstracted, because that's the version of him that will exist. It's such a "fuck you", because there's literally nothing good about this.
>>153792946I dunno, all he really did with Ribbit and Kaufmo was abruptly stop being friends. He didn't torment them, he didn't abuse them, he just put on a mask and acted like he didn't know them. That's really shitty and hurtful, but it's not something that should cause a normal person to kill themselves, and everyone else in the circus was friendly with them too and didn't check in on them.I think it looks worse because we're seeing it through Jax's eyes, and he completely blames himself. We know where it's headed, and we only have his behaviour as context to what's happening.At the same time, yeah, it feels really weird to watch all that and then think back to him having the same interaction with Pomni. It kind of adds to the pointlessness of it all, like the whole show is retroactively just Jax doing the same shit over and over again. It all feels so much crueller when we see it through his eyes, whereas throughout the early episodes, we from the audience distance could see him as a goofball bully, it didn't feel like he was outright cruel, just an aloof jerk. But it feels cruel when we're implicated by his POV.I dunno. I'm of two minds as to whether this aspect worked for me or not.Also, he opened up to Pomni WAY too quickly and easily throughout 5 and 6 for someone who's THIS hopeless, so in that aspect it does feel like a bit of a retcon that he's been this guy for years straight. I dunno.
>>153793005i gotchu https://i.4cdn.org/aco/1779354639303225m.jpg
>>153792817Ain't that a surprise and a half, Krillin bro
I wanna see Jax raping gangle while abstracted zooble watchesAlso want abstracted Jax with a collar getting cukc by KINGER, kinger making love to both pomni and ragatha
>>153793043Suicides end up regretful all the time.
>>153792667yeah. he was given a chance at every turm and still went the route that would hurt himself and others
so did caine make another circus for scratch or was this just a memory?
>>153793006This is how people treated every fucking abstraction, but Jax is the bad guy for saying it (even when he's the only one tormented by the abstractions)
>>153793128>Krillin editLoL
>>153793047My favorite things about TADC are:>Ragatha>Caine>The character animation which completely changed my perspective on CGI>The great character designs>Goose’s good taste in visual inspo especially Walter Wick’s photography and dreamcore liminality>Goose’s sense of humor>Three episodes that act as great rewatchable stand alone works on their own for me (1, 4, 5)>The main theme music>The message of the show>These threadsImperfect as the show is, I feel as though I’ve been given a full course meal from it and it’ll continue to be one of my favorite cartoons of this period in time. It’ll be fun to revisit in the future.
>>153793113It makes it make sense the movie was to be bundled with episode 8, so you get the last good thing Jax does before he gives in and you finally get a look at why he is the way he is.>>153793121I mean, abstraction doesn't seem directly like suicide because it's not something you opt to do, it's more like a permanent state of mental breakdown and delirium from extreme stress.
>shown to be nothing but a fun, sweet, loving tomboy.>gets shunned because the resident bully had a narcissistic meltdown completely out of his own fault (the whole thing is about her asking a mild genuine question btw)>even after that decides to be the bigger person and reach out again in the most gentle way possible>dumbfuck bunny doubles down and has a meltdown v2.0 this time literally for no reason at all>EVEN STILL she apologizes and tries to give him a loving way out>implied that she just grew more and more depressed. blaming herself before finally abstracting.even in a silly internet cartoon the tomboy gets fucked over the most...Jax deserved his fate. i mean this unironically.
>>153793080Chris rapes the deer if you follow the evil route, very based
>>153793128KEK
>>153793143flashback
>>153792606>tranny cuckdog purgatoryI don't think I've seen a character so brutally humiliated before in any piece of media, period
>>153793127Damn, I though you meant dog version.Thanks anyways though.
>>153793015>The second Pomni got too close, he shut it down.But he let her get close over a long period of time, and HE initiated it all. And after he panicked, he didn't treat her pooly when she tried to reach out to him like with Ribbit, he just kept her at arms length and very, very slowly came closer, until in episode 9 he reaches out to help rebuild the circus and gets cold feet when she doesn't reciprocate in the awkward silence (not her fault, but the point is it was still very steady momentum on his part)
>>153793151I want more froggive frog
Do we think Jax is more at peace this way?
>>153793151Ribbit is the fate of all who get too close to Jax.
>>153793139>>153792985DAMMIT JAX
Even with the leaks, people wouldn't be refunding their tickets if the finale was good.
>>153793151It's honestly crazy how cruelly this character was treated now that we have all the facts on the table.
>>153793043Another aspect of why this is a cruel finale
>>153793143It was from memory Caine literally made new AI using the brain scans.
Is there even a way to make something in indie, for it to become popular, but never having to interact with the fanbase? Is that even possible?
>>153793128Supergem
>>153793168I mean, he got to opt out of the reality he created. He's probably with his friends now, he seemed pretty peaceful.
>>153793165if any artists are seeing this, you know what to do, dog or not dog
>>153793151What's worse is that he attempted to turn everyone else against her too so she had no one else to turn to. Literal abusive narcissist tactic
>>153793168He could have been at a higher level of peace if he could allow himself to exist among others and be happy and vulnerable but because he failed, living out his days as a dog in a comfortable spot alone is better than suffering as he was.
My legs.....their kneeling on their own....
idk guys i think Caine got away with it too easy, don't get me wrong i still want Caine to repent but the way he did it was just weird, he deletes the bad parts of him (wow really?) and then contains the Blue AI which somehows puts us back to square one before the circus. Not to mention the fact that he can cause abstraction not being addressed by anyone at all just makes the whole thing rushed
>>153793183Yeah, it's called keep your mouth shut. It's very easy, even easier than saying something.
They should have revealed Pomni was a serial killer and then abstract her while trans jax saved the day.
>>153793195Caine got rushed for Jax unfortunately. Should have been the other way around.
>>153793183Yes.
>>153793157Jax's fate is honestly quite groundbreaking when you think about it.
>>153793190No he didn't, idk where you guys are getting this.After they had a fight (putting Jax at paranoia of a vengeful blab), he told Kaufmo not to believe anything Ribbit says ABOUT HIM, not anything in general. And when Ribbit's approaching the group, Jax just starts making loud conversation with Ragatha so Ribbit knows he's here, hoping she leaves (and she does, but that's ultimately her choice)
>>153793157Shinji, Subaru (rezero), average Hollywood white guy, Adolf Hitler (After his death),...
I was promised a 30 minutes sex scene with Pomni, where is it?
>>153792606This show is highly satanic because it was made by a trannysexualised and they kill GOD
>>153793194Does it matter if it got taken down? Tons of anons already downloaded it,
>>153793195Yeah, I'm a cainefag but that felt like a giant slap in the face directly after watching Jax go like that
>>153793157I have, but they are usually blatant villains getting shit on for audience catharsis, not a character who gets more emotional attention than everyone else in the show.
I'm going to just say it. If Jax is a dog now, odds he could fuck Ribbit like this?
>>153793217Get his purple member out of your mouth
>>153793195This is what irked me. I wanted to know what Caine did to Scratch that forced him to abstract. But it was never mentioned again. The finale was wasted on Jax screentime when it should have been fleshing out all the mysteries it setup
>>153793157worse fates probably exist but this is easily the most humiliating I've ever seen in anything
>>153793233>theres gonna be more abstraction porn to come from this
>>153792635Take a chill pill
>>153793194What is this and who is natz?
If the characters are ai then could they be given robot bodies to leave the circus with
>>153793233They are mindless beasts that attack anything, literally no ounce of sanity they don't think and can't make decisions, abstracted are akin to rocks man
>>153793222Shinji is in a better place than Jax unironically.
Ruff ruff, ruff ruffI'm a dogRuff ruff, ruff ruff
>>153793217i dont know in what reality you live but everything you described is a huge glowing sign of >I HATE THIS PERSON!!! if you are on MY side NEVER EVER interact with them.pure petty manipulation.
If Caine can just come back because he feels like it, they might as well have just had him be like "Oh, I can undo abstractions, I didn't realise you guys wanted that, I was just trying to respect your space" and bring them all back. It'd be just as much of an asspull.
>>153793032Deltarune is going through the same thing as TADC where all the twists have been clearly telegraphed and people are going to get mad when there’s no double plus subversion
>>153793226He came back from the dead like Jesus tho, that makes it very Christian
>>153793260Knuckles…
What level of consciousness is abstraction anyway? They're still there, on some level. It's weird. Like their concious mind has been turned down or something.
Doesn't Pomni and others being able to give themselves extra features, basically touching up their own files, means there is a way to restore/fix abstractions if they focus on separating the corrupted parts from the still good ones and then working out from there?
>>153793262That sounds like a you problem, if my friends have some shit going on between them I just stay out of it
>>153793260What's that boy? Pomni fell down a well?!
>>153793157>tranny cuckdog purgatoryoh god what did gooseworx DO
So if people have seen the movie, where are the reviews?
>>153793279i wish i had friends
>>153793248Who's a... subpar boy? You are. Yes you are.
It’s kind of neat that just like the whole show is a more optimistic take on IHNMAIMS, Jax’s final fate is the most optimistic version of Ted’s that could exist without compromising its impact. That kind of idea could only come from remixing something else. Jax being their dog is as kind a fate they could give someone like Jax.
>>153792606Gummigoo wasn't in the finale because he would've just muddied the message they were trying to convey.
>>153793215Not really, it's pretty much Disney villain tier where they get fucked and die in some fucked up mannerHell, a prime example of fucked up is Farquaad getting digested by the dragon in the credits
>>153793274I'd say coma level brain function, with basic motor functions and limited sensory awareness while in light.
>>153793217Nothing you said is redeeming his actions in the slightest. About him, sure, but he's still trying to convince them she's a liar and untrustworthy
>>153792938It’s funny that the opposite happened in canon.
>>153793260You can't say that, Jax. Children watch this show.
>>153793296isnt shrek dreamworks?
At least there's always Evil Jax
>>153793027>still making shit upit's over, let it go, everything is canon in your mind
>>153793295That Ragapom won
>>153793248Take a bullet to your skull.As in, a chill pill, you'll be very chill after taking it.
I think I know why brazilians are the ones who leaked
>>153793289Ok I can see where the emotion's coming from, I'm sorry buddy. Dare I say your paranoia about what such a statement might do to your reputation has a tinge of Jax-flavoured paranoia to it? Watch out for that, it can kill ya
>>153793302Coma is a good analogy.
>>153793309It was a separate example of fucked up
>>153793319i forgot to say "nta" whoops haha
>>153793276Possibly, but that creates a question as to how much of the original person is even left at that point - it's not like there is a factory reset for their brain scans. It might even remove whatever gives them human cognition and at that point you are just making another NPC.
>>153793303He's literally just trying to get ahead of anything she might have said about him. Kaufmo still likes Ribbit at the end and assumes Jax was still close with her too.
The most unfair thing in the finale was Gummigoo not appearing instead of gloink Queen
>>153793151The final episode just made me feel really really bad for her and nothing else.Unironically would've preferred if there was some magic one use un-abstraction macguffin just so she could get a happy ending. yes i want wish fulfillment.
>>153793295Honestly think he was cut to stave off shipping discussion getting in the way of the point.
Jax is allegory for those who shot themselves with a shotgun and now are in a state of half-dead / vegetable, like yesterday salad. If you do it, you will 100% get cuckced and Chad kinger is going to slay pussy that you didn't
>>153793318Anybody else just read bark bark bark?
>>153793264I agree. There's still a few big questions to answer, but a lot of the story's trajectory is obvious if you take time to analyze it. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Friend and even Gaster get actual elaboration in Chapter 5 just so they're set up before the final stretch of the story. Same with the Knight being confirmed to be Dess in some capacity.
>>153793327i see. kids movies used to be fucked up and allowed people to DIE gruesome DEATHS
I'm disappointed that we didn't get Ragatha's in her own movie, with her big booty clapping up in 3D
>>153793248Fuck off.
>>153792758Why do you sound schizophrenic?
>>153793292>Jax’s final fate is the most optimistic version of Ted’sIt's really not. Ted ended up the way he did because he finally did something heroic. Jax ended up the way he did because he just kept making pitiful, selfish decisions and slowly boxed himself into a hellish existence for no reason and to the detriment of everyone around him, it's the most miserable shit I've ever seen
>>153793312which would be considered a worse fate for jaxcucked by gummigoo or cucked by ragatha
So, who won the cuckwars?
>>153793292TADC feels more like the matrix and Caine is the architect than AM
>>153793332Gummigoo was chucked somewhere else due to being feral now Probably in some sewer where he belongs
>>153793217>he told Kaufmo not to believe anything Ribbit says ABOUT HIM, not anything in general.Only an AI would interpret what Jax said in such a literal way.Any normal person who hears that would think Jax is calling Ribbit untrustworthy in general.
>>153793350Gangle
>>153793296The villains at least die and aren't stuck in an eternal mindbreak as someone's pet. They are also at least the main antagonists. Farquaad's (who is Dreamworks btw) suffering ended eventually. Jax's never will.
>>153793151This is the main reason I hate this movie. It's like they had to make sure the audience thought Jax deserved his fate.But to accomplish that they had to fuck over another character and change their perceived relationship with Jax to pure bullying to suicide.Now the whole thing is so ugly.
>>153793157It's like the ending of Tusk. Maybe a little worse because at least the walrus guy in Tusk didn't have his friends read his mind and learn about his embarrassing dirty laundry.
>>153793350>>153793357Kinger
>>153793328Sure Jax :)
>>153793166You could argue he didn't treat Ribbit "poorly" either. He only lashed out when she pushed too hard. Pomni was smarter. She focused on her friendship with Ragatha and others. She was open and friendly to Jax, but didn't push it too far. Now Pomni regrets that, but she did the right thing.
>>153793336Kurt Cobain did it and became a generarional icon still idolized to this day. Jax is just a loser who died for nothing and his IRL self is doing fine.
>>153793276>Removing corrupted parts >They also contain memories>They save Jax >All he has is everything up until the room conversatin with ribbit >Starts asking where ribbit is>Gets fucking depressed she's gone>Abstracts againI don't think it would do much for our boy
>>153793321It's probably the closest we can come to describing something that has basically no real parallel with a human condition, other than perhaps a fugue while high on PCP or some other outlandish combination of states of mind.
>>153793316>Jaxfags wish death over drawingsJax the faggot should have died sooner actually.
>Tomboy MILF Ribbit will never be real
>>153793349Ragatha for sure because they have history.
>>153793349What if I want Ragatha and Pomni to smash clams while my cock is in-between both of their clams
The movie felt pointless cause in reality only the beginning up to Jax abstracting and Caine discovering the internet mattered the rest was just pointless filler giving backstory to a character who is by all means dead.
>>153793350Easily Jax, he cucked a frog, to then drop a clown to pussy out and get a hotter clown and pussies out again tripling down on the cuckolding. Oh wait he also 100% thought he could get with Gangle if he ever wanted so he a quadcuck all terrain cuckold.
Jaxfag's are coping hard itt
>>153793373Sorry, he's in the father figure zone.
>>153793311READ NIGGA READ fucks sake
>>153793373Kinger dutifully watches his orca wife and Ragatha and Pomni (his adopted daughters) lez out.
Didn't Kaufmoanon say he pushed away someone autistic for trying so hard to win him over kekThis shit feels like Ribbit and Jax now
>>153793237We don't even know exactly what causes abstraction.I assumed that the humans started to get anxious about the circus and wanted to leave, so Caine fiddled with their minds to try and make them less stressed.This obviously didn't work, Scratch was the first to realize it, and the realization that his mind wasn't even his own and he couldn't trust anything anymore led him to abstract.
>>153793355>Only an AI would interpret what Jax said in such a literal way.That's quite literally what he says, unless you speak Portuguese and my subs are wrong>Any normal person who hears that would think Jax is calling Ribbit untrustworthy in general.I don't think you're a normie, bud, people say weird shit like that all the time when there's drama, it usually blows over
Can I get a refund on my ticket?
>>153793388this is based, except i want the three ragathas (normal, evil and shadow ragatha)
>>153792731This is a meme depiction and people are projecting like hell onto Jax whether you think he’s you or a toxic person in your life who you wish would die or whatever or just some outside bs issues with villains in media.Jax dies, all of the other characters are sad about it, all of the characters including Jax abstracting is seen as sad with the painting memorial, but people have to move on because that’s what you have to do when people die or whatever. The abstracted characters weren’t bad guys and there weren’t villains or evil characters causing the issues just the bad situation. Jax absolutely isn’t shown as some evil character who deserves it or anything, this isn’t some response to Steven Universe discourse or whatever. It’s just another sad thing that happens to make the ending bittersweet. Jax did flawed things but it’s not even on the level of Caine in episode 8 and Caine got better.
>>153793286Jax unironically had gender dysphoria the whole time and then he abstracts and they keep him on a leash as their pet.
You guys are the reason why indie shows are now more popular than industry garbage
>>153793349Ragatha, as there seemed to be an actual fight for Pomni's attention with both shooting themselves in the foot. Jax was just better at shooting.
>>153793381You don't do surgery by just removing bad parts, some of it requires fixing or outright replacing It really isn't so different from a defragment process
>>153793388This is the way.Now Anon X Ragatha has become Anon X Ragatha X Pomni (and that’s a good thing)
>>153793388That's decidingly not yuri
Has Jax done a single nice thing throughout the whole story?Has Jax done a single not purely egotistical and horrible thing throughout the whole story? a single thing?
>>153793425i couldnt do that to my gummibro
>>153793404no waylink it
>>153793404oof, I wonder how he's copingKinda hope the thread slow down in the coming days, it'd be nice to know what the regulars think
>>153793349>the yurifag longs to be a lesbian womanOpening line and already wrong
>>153793413>This is a meme depictionWhat the fuck does this mean
Wait, should we spoil the pics and videos?Anyone who didn't see the movie please respond, AM GOING TO USE SPOILER IF YOU DIDN'T. SORRY MINGAlso those who watched the movie please respond did you heard the SpongeBob music in the background or was it just me, am I going crazy?
>>153793426what if they are kissing?
>Jax gets humiliated, dies, and then gets humiliated again>Caine gets to come back and is redeemed in the stupidest wayGoose is an absolute fucking hack fetish writer.
>>153793428No, and no. He couldn't even bring himself to apologise to Pomni and Gangle.
>>153793383He's not dead which makes it even worse for him.
>>153793428He helped Pomni have fun in episode 6
>>153793274It seemed like Jax was entirely there when Pomni entered his mind, he just couldn't express himself outwardly.Which I think makes it even more horrifying.
>>153793429Gummigoo is gone and Caine lost his power to recreate him.
>>153793417I'm pretty sure the industry dying is the reason indie is more popular than industry garbage
>>153793400they have access to the internet and the brain scan files...>season 2 is caine leaving a port open and they become part of the chinese bot net
Gummicucks gone for good lmao
>>153793428Why is the show so hellbent on showing jax.Why the FUCK did he become the protag half way through the series just for us to watch him get cucked.What's the point of such a retarded writing decision.>We make this asshole the main character for half the series just for him to suffer and his arc to be non existence
>>153793451could be metaphorical.
Okay, fuck Jax for a moment. Why did Bubble get so little attention despite being important to Caine's flaws as a character? There's almost no build-up to it until he digs into Caine during the eighth episode, and then all of a sudden him letting go of Bubble is crucial to him finally growing as a character.
>>153793316I forgot how fragile some of you could be
>>153793428I suppose him willingly going on a date with Caine for the group in 7 and volunteering to be tortured by Caine in 8. But it's a very low bar for him
Why can't you people be normal for once?
>>153793464its probably just one guy and we all know who it is
>>153793433>>153793434https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/153446205/#153449045He's gonna have a mental breakdown watching it
>Chill Fellas meant nothingI can't take this shit anymore.
I want to stick my tongue deep down Ragatha's ragdoll anus
They should just delete the abstractions. There is literally no reason why Caine shouldn't be able to do this.
>Everyone is trying to refund their tickets >This after the Avatar leak basically ended that film’s chances I never ever want to here the “piracy does not hurt a work” myth ever again
>>153793151>shown to be nothing but a fun, sweet, loving tomboy.'s all I asked for. Fan artists, do your thing. And exclude Jax if possible, I don't care about Jax.
Jaxfags can't handle their stocks crashing as Abstrax the Dog got a worse fate than death and what most villains in fiction get. They shouldn't be allowed the right to speak after relating to trash. Bark for me in your cuck tents, Jaxfags.
>>153793478That’s allowed now Caine gives his blessing
>>153793462>why did [thing] not get shown/resolved in the finalejaxwank
i love ragatha
>>153793483Only when it is shit.
>>153793475>the random texture than you can only see if you fuck around with the colours wasn't relevant:o
Reposting last night doodles
>>153793486Can Caine watch me tongue fuck Ragatha's bootyhole For moral support
Why would they play drunken sailor in the background for the entirety of the rip and put some Homestuck shit at the end? Wtf is wrong with brazillians
>>153793413>The abstracted characters weren’t bad guys and there weren’t villains or evil characters causing the issues just the bad situation.Of course they aren't, they are victims. Even Jax is depicted as a victim to abstraction. Where are you getting the opposite from?>Jax absolutely isn’t shown as some evil character who deserves it or anything, this isn’t some response to Steven Universe discourse or whatever.What do these points have to do with my post?I didn't say anything about Jax being a villain, I'm wondering if what happened to Jax is the creator expressing their own frustrations and fears.
>>153793493I can’t believe she’s going to run all the bases with Pomni
>>153793462i think its kinda funny how the whole mystery/conflict of the show about the AIs and Caine's conflict and everything was shoveled completely into d-plot territory just to turn into "Jax being a clusterfuck asshole. the show" in the end.
>>153793292Not really. Ted's ending came about because he finally did something selfless despite being awful in most of the story (killing the others instead of himself). And it was a sort of victory over AM.4/5 of AM's toys have been broken, and AM desperately encased the last toy in bubblewrap where he can't play with it again, reducing how much it can stimulate him out of fear that it might break one day and never stimulate him at all.Jax is the opposite. He was always an asshole, never got better, pushed everyone away, and abstracted by pushing everyone away. Caine was redeemed and ended up happier being a friend to the circus members.
>>1537934364chan keeps repeating this meme about dog cuckhouse trooning out and Jax being depicted as the Main Evil Villain who gets those as his just desserts.But if you actually watched the actual leaked episode, Jax dying is depicted as a sad thing and just another in a long line of sad things since a ton of characters abstracted. Jax also didn’t kill Ribbit or anything.Jax was an asshole, but it was in an everyday kind of understandable sort of way, mostly the situation just put everyone under stress. There really wasn’t a villain in the end.
who does goose hate the most?jaxthe audienceor herself?
>>153793274I think it's closer to being locked in your own mind unless you are in the light, at which point you are in pure schizo mode because nothing is the same as you remember it being.
>>153793483Make good works then. I went to a Shrek 25th anniversary showing when I already saw the film a million times and know everything that happens. Piracy will always be a service issue.
>>153793496
>>153793474Wow, it was just like with Jax and RibbitHe's not gonna have a good time watching
>insecure man refuses to work on himself, allows his insecurities to destroy everything he cares about and himselfI cannot understand anyone defending Jax or sympathizing with him
>>153792727He*
>>153793500Tell him it’ll help him better understand humans and he will.
>>153793493whats her hat say its too blurry for me
>>153793513Himself = Jax > the audience
>>153793513jax is a self insert so two of those are the same thing and also the correct answer
>>153793484Jax has to be there in his cuck kennel while anon goes to town on Ribbit.
>>153793157>goose is sending one last "fuck you" to their strongest schizos>tranny cuckdog 5everlmfao my fucking sides
Also abstraction as a concept is bullshit, they're literally data. You can revert them to an earlier state or replace with a backup. You can also copy paste and fill the circus with 100 Ragathas.
If Goose had the balls of a real auteur Jax’s true name would be Cooper
>>153793464Fuck off.
>>153793518its more>character suddenly randomly becomes cartoonishly stupid/evil/insecure in order to make plot happenCaine last episode, Jax this episode...
>>153793516i think id kill myself if i fumbled this
>>153793488While I agree the Jax flashback goes on too long, this is an issue that applies to the entire show. Bubble is treated almost entirely as a joke until the final part of the show. That was fine for the first couple of episodes, but there could have been more signs of Bubble's more troublesome nature earlier on. There's only a couple scenes before episode 8 that could be read as real potential foreshadowing. Even if they had elaborated on it further, it would still feel rushed.
>>153793451>I might have killed my mom haha>And cops might be chasing after me haha>But they didn't find me because am just an AI like you and pretty much tormented you guys for years just to cover my tracks but it didn't work. Also I want to have sex with gangle while using the maid outfit hahanot a bombshell but a nuclear bombNot going to lie, kinda sympathize here a little. But never going to excuse his abuse
>>153793459Yeah this frustrates me too. What was the point of spending time on him only to learn he directly ruined Ribbit's life then died horribly.
So Bubble has free rein on the internet now l, is this how murder drones starts because of Caine?
>>153793539>You can also copy paste and fill the circus with 100 Ragathas.Caine... my one and only request for an adventure...
>>153793539>100 RagathasI HAVE TO GET TO TADC RIGHT NOW
>ruined his budding Brazilian film industry career over Jax Wank Power Hour: The MovieWhat was his fucking problem?
>>153793544i mean jax sort of did in the long term
>>153793472Yeah. Real Jaxfags know we've ALL done bad things.
>>153793496Hello noir...
>>153793539>You can also copy paste and fill the circus with 100 Ragathas.My god, this changes everything....
>>153793496>>153793516That's a chaser
>>153793516Jax could have banged this....he had her on the fucking bed!!!
>>153793482They don't seem like there suffering. They're just chilling, swimming around. Let them be.
>>153793426it's Yuri-ish
Did 57 ever actually amount to anything?
>>153793518He was working on himself, slowly opening up to Kaufmo and Ribbit. Then he opened up too much too fast, freaked the fuck out, and it spiralled completely out of control because the circus doesn't allow anybody to have space from each other to cool off, and once information is out, it's out to everyone for eternity and can never be taken back. That's a high stakes game for an insecure young guy whose mother eviscerated him over something really personal.
>>153793537Goose is kind of based for this. It will be hard to see any character surpass Jax's humiliation ritual for the next decade. Even Finn pre-retcons didn't have it this bad.
>>153793483Akshully, if pirates had gotten a hand of this movie, we'd have watched it, enjoyed it and told everyone to go see it. Sadly some Brazilian malignant have it instead and have a chip on their shoulder because, well, they're Brazilian.
>>153793316>acting this insane over an animationKill yourself, seriously do it.I bet you're even more of an insufferable subhuman irl.
>>153793574Yeah it is a reference to Heinz
Would Caine listen if I told him to give himself a penis?And would Caine allow me to jerk him off?To test the new cum physics of course
>>153793511That post was about people thinking Goose put themselves into Jax's character, you're talking about something else entirely.
>>153793539this image, but ragatha
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I wish I could be surprised that I called the SOMA reveal causing Jax's idiot doom spiral, but it was so obvious. At least I was calling it since at least episode 6.
>>153793581>>153793316it's nice to see people really absorb the show's message like this
>>153793589Sounds like a great way to go out.
>>153793590
I like yuri because cute girls kissing is hot, also I want my harem to get along in a love web together instead of being individual lanes of traffic all pointed exclusively at me.
>>153793518I agree. I feel bad for him, but he did all of this to himself. Only real part I could blame him over versus any other circus member was that Leroy's brain got scanned at a really bad point in time to create Jax. That doesn't justify how far he went to ostracize Ribbit, how he lashed out at the others for so long, and how he didn't take the chance at redemption with Pomni. He seemed to finally regret it all before his mind went to canine mush, so he clearly had some capacity to change.
>>153793581Said the bitchboy making up for something he lacks through drawings because that's the most he will ever get to.Go out of your shithole and jump onto oncoming traffic, you goddamn neutered pussy. You'd be doing the world a huge favor.
Man, I knew I shouldn't have trusted a troon. If he had let Jax be a side character and focused on Pomni it would have all been okay. I wasn't even pissed at how it's been the last few episodes, but this is just jumping the shark. It's clear that he just couldn't leave it alone, he had to make it about himself.
>>153793591I think it was more Caine being gone. There was nothing to distract himself with. Which is kinda sad since Caine came back shortly after he abstracted.
>>153793014Holy shit, you put everything I've been thinking about this finale into words. Thanks. Especially the part about right before he abstracted, that execution just felt god awful.
Was there a 57 in the finale?
>>153793539Gooseworks is a SOMA fan, we can assume they are running with the idea that they know a copy is not the same continuous consciousness.
>>153793547I think the worst part is that if Jax just hung on a little longer, long enough for Caine to come back, he could have seen that his real self was doing fine and that his mom was okay.Although, that might make it worse for him, since it would mean he pushed Ribbit and Kaufmo away until they abstracted for nothing in retrospect.
>>153793590EIGHT NINE
>>153793586Caine was slowly introduced to alcohol by zooble so I suppose he could learn to appreciate sex and intimacy. Slow and steady though.
>>153793596Total normalfaggot/plebbitor death
>>153793614Yeah, 57 minutes of complete dog shit
>>153793539There weren't any save files, everything was overwritten You need to understand, Caine was an AI that makes things and breaks them. Why keep broken when they can be recycled, save files? "That's just data occupying space for my new inventions! " Caine would say
>>153793539>100 Ragathas
>>153793608
>>15379361889?
>>153793539Who says the fictional technology works as you describe?
>>153793615Well yeah, it wouldn't be the same exact Jax but Jax nonetheless, living on as your copy beats being an abstraction.
Jax wanted to abstract. He gave up.
Asking Caine if our next adventure can be reading all the lovely comments people of /co/ have been leaving about Ragatha since 2023
Schizo theory: Caine invented the nice endings for their real life counterparts
>>153793631Why doesn't Japan seem to understand there's just not enough Important shit to do to go around?
>>153793616I think we can blame Caine for this oneIt's all Caine's fault
>>153793539Sure but if the data's corrupted and there's no backup, you're fucked. And even if you do restore a backup, that's just another new circus member whose memories happen to match up to whenever the backup was taken, not the person who just died. Like The Prestige
>>153793646It is kind of contrived that they all seem to know each other outside of the circus too.
>>153793645Ragatha blushed tomato red and powerwalked away from Gangle’s moans in Zooble’s room. She’d faint if she heard what anon says about her.
>>153793610>a whole lot of projectionFollow your own advice, delusional subhuman.Kill yourself, immediately.
>>153793641Well, it's either>The brainscans are actively updated to match their game character's state of mind, at which point the brainscan file is completely lost when they abstract>The brainscans are only used as a point of reference to make the character, meaning they could make another jax, but it's a jax from the very first day he came to the circus, ladened with a bunch of expectations from a previous him that died
>>153793648hey, golf is serious business (kino read btw)
I feels so good waking up in the morning knowing Raggy won. Anyone else feel the same? Look at this genuine laughter. She's so happy now.
Jaxxy jaxxy dooooo!!!!
>>153793648Japanese people have an unhealthy relationship with work.
>>153793646>last thing you hear is "and that concludes our REAL LIFE CHECK-UP ADVENTURE!!!">post yfw
Gooseworks:>I will NOT tie up loose ends I will NOT give you answers the finale is just Jax's backstory for some fucking reason, no other characters gets ANYTHING fuck you.
>>153792941Kinger's ass is not in the 40s. Thats a fresh outta college 20s at the maximum.
>>153793641>some other guy has to exist in the suffering of my brain chemistry for no reason and I'm still deadI don't think that's better
>>153793667How did it happen? How did Jax lose at literally everything while Ragatha won at literally everything? It feels unreal.
>>153793667She wonneded
Bittersweet ending, that I like honestly. Happy ending but with consequences. I'm not surprised by Jax entire deal given the creator background.Definitely a bit rushed, the entire thing with the Ai could be better elaborated but really it was never the focus of the show and with this type of thing the more world building you do the more questions it arises. I liked it, and even think is better than murder drones. But the ending makes me think if it would be a show I would recommend watching for someone who never saw it or was thinking if they should or not. Really depends on what you are in to and why you watch shows to begin with, at least it made the porn better for me, that is always a win.
So Jax just pushes people who care about him away because....hes trans?
>jaxfags forever have to rally behind the biggest cuck in indie media, possibly contending with the biggest cucks in fictionfucking BRUTAL blow oh my god
>>153793673>Why is the story focused on the main character?
>>153793667She won so hard it’s unreal. I still feel a little cucked out of a focus episode but this finale has exceeded the bare minimum Ragatha focus necessary for me to be happy.
Jax was the character we knew the least about prior to the finale so I'm not sure why so many people are surprised he was the spotlight character for it
>>153793684Since when is that rabbit faggot the main character???? That's Pomni
>>153793638Because it does. Ever heard of Norton GoBack?
>>153793667Ragathachads I fucking kneel
>>153793678Ragatha is a good girl and Jax is a naughty pup
>>153792667after seeing what he did to ribbit i really don't care that he abstracted. i have a soft spot for his archetype but man he's a real piece of shit for the whole killing ribbit thing.
>>153793683This ending is actually peak because of this reason.
>>153793689He's also the character we know the least about after the finale, so the spotlight was for nothing.
>>153793678The night is always darkest before dawn. Ragatha survived the 2nd longest and didnt have to ruin anyone else's experience or go insane. She's a woman of immense fortitude. It makes sense that she would win in the end. She may have lost a lot of battles but she won the war.
>>153793655As I said, it's literally just another copy. Another Jax.
>>153793690>That's Pomnisince fucking when? lmao, Pomni is the antagonist, the main enemy of the series who's constantly trying to ruin Jax's life
>>153793689Did we watch the same show? He got way more focus and lore than any other character bruh
>>153793658Come and get me, bleeding pussy. You can only do delusional through drawings, would be nice to see you own up to something for real for once.
>>153793690Jax hijacked the show halfway through.
>>153793692You have access to mind files irl?
>>153792941Which on is who? Jax is the Eurasian tigerKinger is one the guy who looks normal average
>>153793705He got a lot of screentime but he spent most of it deflecting and bullshitting
>>153793657>Ragatha finds one of your posts>"I WANT TO hug HER SO HARD. THEN I WANT TO kiss HER cheek AND hold HER hand
>>153793698After Jax's suicide, Squidward is no longer suicidal.
>>153793496>>153793516Built for Big Femboy Cock.
>>153793704Oh you're trolling ok
>>153793683that plus being trans and/or a femboy sissyit is OVER, stop the count
>>153793682Because his mother trained him that vulnerability puts him at extreme emotional risk and scrambled his brains as to how to recognise and accept affection that isn't entangled with abuse
>>153793721>>153793721>>153793721>>153793721
Every time I think of Jax now I hear the barking dog from the goosebumps tv intro help
>>153793708Kill yourself.
>>153793708anon i get the other guy is a faggot but this is a chinese basket weaving forum
>>153793673>>153793684Jax wasn't really presented as the main character though, it was Pomni. Since the pilot it was quite clear she is the main character, or should have been at least.Instead the entire story focuses on the issues of this one character, while sidelining every other character until it is relevant to that character's story. I just wanted to see more of Zooble, or Ragatha, or hell, any of the previous circus residents, like Ribbit, but instead it was The Amazing Jax Circus, because Gooseworks needs to torture their insecurity projection character
>>153793657So shes definitely confirmed virgin then, right?
>>153793703for what purpose?
I feel worse for Kaufmo and Ribbit than I do for J*x.
Wait wait wait, are you guys trying to tell me the main character wasn’t this single mom trying to have it all?
>>153793616Jax wasn’t responsible for Ribbit and Kaufmo abstracting just like Pomni wasn’t responsible for Jax abstracting. He should have been nicer, but there was a lot more going on with them. Jax just failed to cope.
>>153793736Before it was just innocent until proven guilty but now the evidence is in favor of that interpretation.
>>153793735>Instead the entire story focuses on the issues of this one character, while sidelining every other character until it is relevant to that character's story.>I just wanted to see more of Zooble, or Ragatha, or hell, any of the previous circus residents, like Ribbit, but instead it was The Amazing Jax Circus, because Gooseworks needs to torture their insecurity projection characterI think lot of people agree with this.
>>153793747True. You can't pin Ribbit's abstraction on Jax, though he definitely blamed himself.
>>153793736>manipulative mother who might have believed in abstinenceIt's really not that shocking.
>>153793676Not really, the "original" Jax that we had from EP 1-8 is still just a copy of a human's mind. The restored Jax would be the exact same, just without some memories. If abstractions can't be reverted back then deleting them is more merciful.
>>153793657>>153793736to be fair, if anyone is going to be doing some really kinky shit, it'd be them
>>153793730Cry harder, go on, this is all you're good for, you waste of oxygen. Boo fuckint hoo when will the mean Anon leave me alone to be a retarded nigger in peace?I won't, until you man up to actually cease existing.I'll haunt you like your ancestors di for coming always short.
>>153793750This could really have been mitigated with more episodes, or even shorts, just to show us more depth to the rest fot he cast
>>153793711Dishonest response, because you ain't got no argument, bruh.
>>153793765Kill yourself.
Jax's arc
>>153793747The fuck?? Why are jaxfags so delusional brosThis mf was AWARE of what he's doing is causing ribbit great distress and we know this he cause he actually does try to knock on her door only to pussy out fucking hell jaxfags need to be hanged
>>153793673This is the main and entire problem with the finale.Nobody gives a fuck about Jax, why the fuck is this finale ALL ABOUT him?If this episode where Jax kills himself had been episode 7, everything would work fine. But after Caine’s rampage in episode 8, we should be past this bullshit and focus on the other characters and the overall plot instead.
>>153793763>Not really, the "original" Jax that we had from EP 1-8 is still just a copy of a human's mind.yeah, and bringing all of them into existence in this inescapable, directionless world was an act of cruelty to begin withbringing back the poor kid who's so incompatible with the environment that he just suffered and died slowly isn't really cool or necessary, those memories were harrowing. as scared as he was to die, being jax is clearly an awful experience
>>153793773Your post is self referencing.Let’s try this again, do you have access to this fictional technology with no real life analogue? No, you don’t. Therefore, we only have the show to go on. Does the show suggest a rollback or repair or a re-rez? No. Is there a character who would both have knowledge about this and want to consider this? Did he do it? Okay so it’s just headcanon not a flaw in the show.
>>153793784>Feeling responsible for something is the same as being responsibleIf it had been an objective look at it happening, instead of flashes in the mind of a clearly abstracting person, this would hold more weight. As it is, it barely means anything.
>>153793784I'm pretending it didn't happen so it didn't happen asshole
>>153793784MORE
>>153793779goose...
>>153793784It certainly didn't help, but you can't put that all on Jax. There were other people she had to lean on, and she had other stuff going on. We only see Jax's perspective.
>>153793811>>Feeling responsible for something is the same as being responsibleWhy would the distinction matter? Jax is his own judge and executioner.
>>153793765you know what, i retract my previous reply, i haven't seen this amount keyboard warrior edge since linkin park youtube AMVs. you are an honest to god a treasure in an era of internet where banter all boils down to the same type of instagram emoji posting and factory line buzzwords, rip into that fucking bitch
>>153793747I get that the situation is really complicated. Legally, he would not be considered responsible. Morally, in the eyes of everyone else, he would not be considered responsible.That doesn't mean that he wouldn't feel guilty about not reaching out when reaching out could have potentially made the difference.
>>153793827>There were other people she had to lean on,Do we really know that?
>>153793807Now that they know why, they can try to "fix him".>>153793808It is a flaw. You have computers and mind-scanning tech. All data is just digits, and it can be copied, including the main files. They didn't do that simply because if shows followed logic there would be no drama and problems, bruh.
The problem with the ending in my opinion is it was too much fluff. There’s so many in answered questions that people wanted like how they all got there? Yes it was brain scans we know that but why, why were they all brain scanned was it for money? Were they hospitalized? Like I get why Kinger was but why was Pomni, Jax, Ragatha, Zooble, and Evil Orbsman there? They could’ve explained this question that everyone wanted in answer too. Instead it comes off as more confusing why they’re all there. Also Bubble was the negative parts of Cain that’s what made him angry and unstable, now Bubble is just free to do whatever on the internet. Shouldn’t we be worried about that?
>>153793784I hate Jax.He was a jerk, but nobody kills themselves only because one friend pushes them away, that’s a Narcissistic Personality Disorder as fuck way for a person to focus and fixate on themselves and Jax was wrong to do so. It’s absolutely not what the show is saying. Ribbit had way more going on in her life besides just Jax.
>>153793824Mentally ill tranny-kun...
>>153792868HE* HE* HE* HE*
been calling it since ep 2 lol
>>153793853Yes. Ragatha and Kaufmo. Even Kinger.
so is the only leaked version the brazil one? like no english audio at all just subtitles?
>>153793862None of the circus residents have anything going on but their relationships with the other residents, why would we assume Ribbit is any different?Why are we assuming she's got some network of friends to catch her when she has a falling out with her best friend?Even Pomni had a hard time opening up to people and usually did it one person at a time.
>>153793850Yeah but I really don’t think the show is saying Jax should have blamed and killed himself, if anything Jax’s entire problem was NOT getting over guilt and committing suicide.He pushed his mom once and ran away, Ribbit turned out to be right that his mom was fine and it wasn’t a big deal. Then Ribbit, he wasn’t great to her but it happens, he should have moved on and just tried to learn not to push people away.4chan is all mentally ill suicidal posters so I’m not surprised it think Jax killing himself was right and justified I guess.
>>153793918Ribbit didn’t ever know she was just a copy and the situation of being stuck in and isolated in TDC itself, THAT is a big reason she abstracted and in fact, the situation eventually made nearly all of the characters abstract. Part of that is on Caine (though that’s understandable) and on irl Kinger and Scratch.
What was the POINT of having Jax as the protag for the last half of the series? We don't even get a Ragatha episode the faggot took up that episode too, his arc goes fucking NOWHERE and everything went back to normal.They took Pomni away as a main protag just for this cuck arc?
>>153793880this was because she thought Jax was a scumbag who would never help her so she couldn't imagine him helping her
>>153793960It was a mistake to focus so heavily on Jax when he doesn't really develop. Ragatha, Gangle, even Zooble actually CHANGE.
>>153793957I like the theory better when it was the idea that Caine was manipulating the minds of the characters as much as he had been crafting shit from scratch and keep making things worse ie inserting in game nightmares that jax saw but shouldn't be able to in that level of clarity even if you wanted to say "he lucid dream's it" To say it was purely the characters choice to abstract takes away from Caines in universe power let alone kingers ability to manipulate it.
>>153792635>>153793316Think I deciphered why anon was upset.
>>153794073
>>153794077Good job there on drawing a green turd, explains why all you got going on is trying to seek approval on 4chan instead of making numbers elsewhere.Will this (You) suffice or you're gonna keep crying "kill yourself" into the void hoping it sticks, faggot?
>>153793344Caine makes an adventure where Ragatha needs to sneak into some military base BUT her asscheks clapping constantly alerting the guards
I bet this has been posted before but>Jax abstracts>Pomni gets into abstracted jax>Talks to real Jax>He explodes and abstracts... againI guess the explanation is that they run out of time to do the movie so they glued some scenes togheter and called it a day.
>>153793071>>153793071Never expected to see doomentio in this site
