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Ragatha is a great dog sitter!

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fuck
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>>153974645 I already drew it but some guy made a new thread too fast.
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We using this one first?
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https://x.com/PortalGlitch/status/2060929699384103100

Sounds familiar!
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>spoilers in the OP
least retarded ragathafag
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>>153974898
If you're still on /co/ after the leaks you have no right to complain about being spoiled.
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>>153974898
Who cares dude.
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When is Kinger taking his wife for a walk?
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Pomni ryona
Pomni guro
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The most based ship ever
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>>153977072
Every night.
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>>153977094
They're cute.
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>>153974506
Real previous thread >>153974640
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"Just keep grabbing at it. That worked for all of us.."
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im eating an 0.5 litre tub of ice cream
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Just keep hugging it. That worked for all of us.
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>>153977148
>no way, fag
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>>153977140
>What do we learn from tragedies
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I will never look at flashbangs and popcorn buckets the same way.
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i'm sorry Jax but the narrative demands you to die
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Just write a fanfic where Caine figures out how to fix everyone.
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Gangle was made to be a slave.
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Pomni strips naked and spreads her ass in episode 10
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You didn't even push her that hard, bro.
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>>153977140
>Stories should always end in a predictible way and should never make me uncomfortable or sad
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>>153977168
Seeing how many people are trying to defend shit writing like "I forgot it could go worse", they learned a valuable lesson that "if a depressed person can't ask help first they are deserved to suicide and your life will be happier without them".
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>>153977200
Jax abstracting was predictable. SOMA was predictable.
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You know, I feel like we've gone through reality for so long without ever actually seeing a real "secret final episode" or "the full episode that leaked is actually fake and misdirection". Like surely this has to happen at some point. I'm not saying this is the case with Digital Circus, absolutely not, but it got me thinking that this will occur eventually.
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>>153977209
If it was predictable jaxfags wouldnt still be seething about it. Everyone thought that jax was going to have a redemption arc.
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>>153977210
>the full episode that leaked is actually fake and misdirection
Why would they make an hour long fake leak? The only cope we can do is Glitch making a bonus video (less than 10 minutes) on Youtube release to prevent Jaxfags burning their company.
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>>153977209
But did most people predict he would remain abstracted ?
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>>153977210
Or maybe it was just a mistake to trust Brazilians with not leaking something and it backfired spectacularly.
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>>153977222
because it would be funny
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>>153977233
What would be funny is if they released an epilog and made it availible everywhere but Brazil
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>>153977222
>on Youtube release
If Glitch adds something that can make youtube release better than shit cinema version, theaters will sue Glitch.
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>>153977222
>>153977231
I literally just said I don't think Glitch did this. This leak is one hundred percent real. I'm just saying in general, I'm looking forward to when some piece of media actually does end up doing this, it'd be pretty funny.
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>>153977094
can a trans lesbian and a homophobic chud really find love?
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>Play the movie in Moldavia
>Not in Romania
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>>153977219
instead, the cast did nothing, jax died becasue the script said so when it otherwise made no sense, and caine came back and fixed everything except the most damaged person
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It was weird how the whole scene with Jax and Pomni is played out as if she will fix his abstraction, even having a call back to ep 2 with Jax falling and Pomni's hand reaching for him, only for him to step on a bomb.
Like, did the bomb do him in? Would he have lived if it wasn't for the bomb? Is abstraction actually reversable?
We'll never know.
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what did stonetoss mean by this?
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>>153977279
when people say that goose needs professional help, we are talking about a ghost writer.
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>>153977256
w-what is this...
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>>153977279
>It was weird how the whole scene with Jax and Pomni is played out as if she will fix his abstraction
Yeah it was really weird. The two weirdest scene in this episode were suddenly an Abstraction appears and calling it Jax, and everyone gather to 'help' Pomni but putting Jax to a dog house. These are unpredictable, in a bad way.
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>>153977094
Since Jax is trans, this is a lesbian relationship and that's why they whoop each other's asses
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>>153977299
Leeroy.
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>>153977279
I don't care what anyone says, the flashbang is genuinely the worst part of the ending. It's bad from every fucking conceivable angle.
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>>153977140
>>153977168
The lesson is pretty obvious. If you're gonna commit suicide, do it as soon as possible and blow that shit smoove off.
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jax tries to rape the they/them out of zooble and zooble tries to rape the he/him out of jax. theyre perfect for each other
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>>153977197
Jax catastrophizes everything since he's very mentally fragile.
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>>153977328
yeah, he was mentally fucked before entering the circus.
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>>153977279
>Is abstraction actually reversable?
This should've been the theme of this last episode. What did they achieve in this last episode? Nothing. They couldn't help Jax. All they have now is a gift from a godlike being. They were just sitting around or watching Jax funeral.
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>>153977340
The most literal Deus ex Machina of all time
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Jax x Anon is the best ship
They're perfect for each other. No homo.
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which anon has the biggest dick? lets discuss
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>>153977344
Thanks but I'm not gay. I'd certainly hug and cuddle if that's what he fancied though.
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>>153977340
if they unabstracted Jax, you know who would be happy?

Kinger. Because now they know it's possible to unabstracted his wife.
>ABSTRACTION ISNT REVERSABLE

tell me one thing that hasn't been a lie in this show
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So the real message is "Suicidal people CAN be saved as long as you make sure to put your explosive toys away."
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>>153977276
Thats pretty based
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>>153977168
There's a difference between a tragedy and a poorly written sad ending
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>>153977343
Caine praised humans' free will and imagination but they did fucking nothing impressive in this whole episode. If Pomni could find a glimpse of hope to reverse abstraction which Caine couldn't, it will be the greatest proof that humans are greater than AI.
Instead, they all became cattles feed upon Caine's whimsical mercy.
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>>153977279
>It was weird how the whole scene with Jax and Pomni is played out as if she will fix his abstraction, even having a call back to ep 2 with Jax falling and Pomni's hand reaching for him, only for him to step on a bomb.
Expectations status: SUBVERTED
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>>153977344
jax x femanon rape
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>>153977279
>>153977313
The Flashbang was some of the worst writing. I've never seen something so arbitrary before. It was technically a Chekhov's gun since it was shown earlier, and we know how much abstractions hate light, considering all the Chekhov's guns that didn't go off, choosing that one is insane

>>153977292
lol
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>>153977363
>Kinger. Because now they know it's possible to unabstracted his wife.
Yes, we could have a heartwarming reunion of them. Also a redemption plot point for Jax where he spends rest of his digital life trying to unabstract Kaufmo and Ribbit, contacting their hurted minds.
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>>153977376
But none of them are actually human. They are digitized brainscans of humans.
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>>153977360
I hope it doesn't hurt Ragatha...
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>>153977365
We don't know what exactly would have happened without the Flashbang. It might have just been speeding up an inevitable process, or it might have randomly altered the outcome of the most dramatic moment in the series
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Missed opportunity to have Jax actually be uncharacteristically chill at the beginning of 9, giving the illusion that he's actually fine now, when really he's in that "I've decided I'm gonna kill myself so nothing bothers me anymore" phase of suicidality, which would have recontextualised his behaviour in 7-8 as being further evidence of giving up rather than him testing the waters of no longer being a dick and feeling like a sudden uno reversal on his character development
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>>153977279
I wish that the thing Pomni did with Jax lead to one of two outcomes
>Pomni’s hug makes Jax be at peace and he disappears. The abstraction just fizzles out in the air Infinity War style and the implication is this is the person is truly gone. This is how you help abstracted people to pass on, and the whole gang does this with the other abstractions to spare them from a horrifying fate.
>Pomni’s hug doesn’t fix abstractions but they realize they can see their abstracted friends every now and then by doing what she did, so they can schedule sessions to see their abstracted friends again. Kinger can see his wife again, Ragatha can see Ribbit and even Caine could apologize to Scratch. Only for a time but they can still see them again.
As is, its just weird they’re putting abstractions as pets in a tent. It’s better than the cellar at least, but it’s not really a solution.
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>>153977389
>But none of them are actually human
LOL so what Caine felt was also wasted?
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>>153977390
i hope it does, are there any hung anons in the thread right now that can anally rape ragatha and let me watch? thanks
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>>153977401
>Ragatha can see Ribbit
Were they actual friends...? Ribbit didn't invite her to tea party or picnic.
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>>153977168
>That ending was a tragedy!
>Yeah, in the writing department!
DOHOHOHOHOHOHO
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>>153977379
Who's raping who?
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>>153977398
This would actually be very realistic. As a lot of psychiatrists and case workers can tell you.
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>>153977200
Art should disturb the comfortable and comfort the disturbed. This does the opposite.
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Suicide is bad
Did you know people who kill themselves end up in hell while people who dont end up in their perfect afterlife filled with cartoon love interests that want to have sex with you for all of eternity?
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>>153977168
Tragedies written by gooseworx
>Oedipus kills his dad and fucks his mom, but Zeus shows up and tells him that actually Oedipus from the other timeline is doing great and having karaoke nights with his folks every Friday
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>>153977374
This is something ending simps need to understand. They'll point out it's a tragedy A) as if that excuses the writing and B) as if you don't know this. Imagine how retarded these people must everyone else is to assume they didn't notice Jax's ending is tragic.
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>>153977210
The first time I heard of people thinking this way was Stranger Things, it's gotta just be children who don't understand how production works
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new 'toss
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The discussion surrounding this show should not have been about the suicide of a main character who had been with us all this time, or who should be blamed for suicide.
This should have been a film about preventing suicide, and by now we should have been talking about hopeful things: whether Jax and Gangle could truly become friends, whether other abstractions like Queenie could recover as well, or what kind of D&D campaign they might be running.
Look at all these wasted potentials.
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>>153977414
I'm decently hung, but Rgatha is only for tender love making. I could rape Pomni though. Or Jax
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>>153977279
>even having a call back to ep 2 with Jax falling and Pomni's hand reaching for him
That was genuinely fucking crazy to put in only to be like "LOLNOPE, ISN'T SHE LOOOOVELYYYYY"
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>>153977435
Wrong. The only thing hellish about Jax's afterlife was what Pomni did to him. Abstraction is shown to be a peaceful transition in episode 7, and peaceful for the remains as long as they're somewhere dark and wet.

What it actually shows is that suicide is good, because the earlier and more thoroughly Jax had abstracted himself, the better off everyone else would have be, and the sooner he himself would stop suffering.
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You dont understand, misery porn kino is GOOD
suicide is GOOD
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what happened to the 'finding the meaing in a stagnant life'? What did they find? Shouldn’t Pomni at least have given some obvious speech in the final episode, like, “Even if we are not real, we can still give real meaning to each other’s lives. Think about good memories we have. Was I not real enough to you?” to raise morale of the group? This is a goddman last episode, where's all her character development? Why she became a cameraman for Jax's funeral?
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>>153977383
>>153977313
>>153977279
Does Zooble feel guilty because of that?

Probobly not, i will now explain what's wrong with the writing.

1. it's a shit mystery box hiding behind being "character driven" when we know almost nothing about the characters either. Nothing is well explained becasue Goose is good at concepts, not executing actual stories.

2. Goose had four self inserts, Jax, Zooble, Gangle and Caine. And she hated Jax because it was about how much she hated who "she" used to be. What she didn't account for is that other people likes Jax, and wanted him to get better instead of killing himself. And she got ANGRY that people didn't hate him like she did. At some point someone should have grabbed her, shook her, and said to stop putting her emotions and self hate ahead of making a good story.

Saving Jax, ending with the discovery that Abstractions are reversable, leaving Caine dead, much better and would have a POINT. They focussed so much on Jax, then killed him off screen, and killed him again to comedic music. Gross and hateful, and makes rewatching impossible because every Jax scene showing his slow growth and what is essentially the ending throes of a multi year long breakdown with bad coping mechanisms

>she
I don't care, please don't get distracted, being a tranny is no where near as bad as being a shit writer
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>>153977432
That's a very restrictive way to judge art
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anon hitting zoobles cervix while she begs him to stop
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>>153977365
The message is "how many GODDAMN times have I told you to CLEAN YOUR DAMN ROOM"
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>>153977468
>>153977494
Anyone who gets offended and disagrees with this is too cowardly to take the show on its own terms and look at the themes as presented.
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>>153977383
>It was technically a Chekhov's gun since it was shown earlier
Yeah but something that's also been well established is Caine resetting everything to a status quo once an adventure's over, so there was no reason to think it'd still be just sitting there

>considering all the Chekhov's guns that didn't go off, choosing that one is insane
That too
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>>153977498
>Goose is good at concepts, not executing actual stories.
This is what sucks about being an INTP. I assume Gooseworx is one based on everything they've ever said and created, and that it's the predominant type in the fandom.
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>>153976933
This is actually kind of cute.
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>>153977374
>>153977437
This.
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>>153977451
imagine if in the end, a saved and alive Jax bumps into Gangle, and as she falls he catches her happy mask and helps her up, apologizing

Ever read Artemis fowl, i think its the 3rd book, where he has his parents back and he's just so happy he starts being nice to everyone?
[character makes comment]
"Artemis smiled, he was doing a lot of that these days"
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>>153977512
>Yeah but something that's also been well established is Caine resetting everything to a status quo once an adventure's over, so there was no reason to think it'd still be just sitting there
Huh, hadn't even thought of that. But yeah, the only other in-house adventure we're shown is Gather the Gloinks and we never see any remains of them.

Though I guess the counterpoint would be that the flashbang somehow wasn't part of the adventure, because Zooble got it from their chest of weapons that they might have had for some reason before the adventure.
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>>153977435
>Troon Jax commits the mortal sin of suicide and is damned for all eternity
>The rest welcome God back into their hearts and live in His eternal paradise
Uh guys... what the fuck did Goose mean by this?
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>>153977520
why is jaxstraction anon lowkey the greatest writer of our time?
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>>153977374
>a poorly written sad ending
Just call it a misery porn.
Actually, this isn't even a good misery porn. Because a misery porns trying to convey depressive message usually do not end with the people left behind having the happiest moment in their life after describing a major character's suicide for more than half of the last episode, cause that will be a huge insult to the tragic tone of the story.
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What I'd add/change:
>instead of going after Ragatha and Zooble, Jax goes after Ragatha and Gangle and reveals that Gangle had told him in confidence that she'd gone to the C&A building to commit suicide. This would be the group's collective breaking point for dealing with Jax, even Pomni would be upset with him. It'd also highlight Jax's hypocrisy when we get the flashback and see how he treated Ribbit over his secret.
>Pomni's fed up with Jax. She hasn't "given up" on him but even she has her limits. I'd either change that scene where he tries to approach her to have her looking tired/annoyed and asking (not meanly) "what is it?" and Jax sulks off (but people would scream and cry that Pomni wasn't nice enough to Jax when he was clearly suffering), or I'd have Jax try to act like his usual self and have Pomni finally lay into him. Then she'd rebuff him with something like "we can talk when YOU'RE ready to". Jax still prefers to die over opening himself up to others.
>I'd cut the whole mind doors sequence, it's nice that Goose tried to throw different ships some crumbs but Pomni could've immediately found the poker room and people would've understood that those were all Jax's different "masks" he puts on. I would've taken that time and put it towards focusing on rebuilding the Circus, have another scene with Gangle talking to Ragatha and Zooble about what happened.
>I don't really think that Scratch is some big mystery, but I'd add a line from Caine about how he thought he was genuinely helping Scratch when he messed with his data. Actually I'd give Caine a flashback sequence too, showing that abstractions did genuinely upset him AND to show another abstraction that isn't an implied suicide metaphor or Scratch.
>While I personally was fine with the red lamp bit I think I would change the setting of that scene to the mountain where Ribbit and Jax had their argument. It's cold but the sun is rising, so it's equal parts somber and peaceful.
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>>153977494
>let it all out now
now, after she says that
he starts apologizing for everything, saying he wished he could have one more chance, or could at least apologize to Gangle and Ragatha. Zooble deserved everything. and THEN they saved him
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>>153977436
kek
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>>153977210
I'm sure Deltarune will have a chapter 0
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If only Jax was more like Leroy
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>>153977219
Jaxfags did predict Jax would abstract and were coming to terms with it, but thought he would go out in a blaze of glory instead of becoming a cuckdog.
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>>153977534
Escape the Circus was also technically an in-house adventure and Caine's office still exists afterward. But it might not have actually been created for the adventure, given how it has actual artifacts of his work and he continues hanging out there later. So it seems more likely we just hadn't been shown it as the audience and the characters had no way to access it.
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>>153977291
There's no fucking way this is from him filename alone is a giveaway
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>>153977518
That is why we shouldn't trust Glitch's indie animation because they give too much freedom to a mentally unstable producer.
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>>153977556
>thought he would go out in a blaze of glory instead of becoming a cuckdog.
we thought that a character would have some agency at some point.
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>>153977545
>Abstraction can't be reversed. Instead of Pomni clinging onto Jax she decides to let him go since some of you hate the flashbang thing with the might of a thousand suns and it wasn't made clear that there was no saving Jax at that point.
>I would've dedicated like ten minutes to a "Caine builds trust with the gang" sequences that's implied to take place over several months.
Uh that's all I can think of.
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jax manifesting himself a huge dick because he thinks size is enough to make the girls love him, except he has no idea how to use it. he tries to just shove it in when he and ragatha fuck and gets annoyed at her when he starts screaming in pain and trying to push him away
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>>153977498
>2. Goose had four self inserts, Jax, Zooble, Gangle and Caine. And she hated Jax because it was about how much she hated who "she" used to be. What she didn't account for is that other people likes Jax, and wanted him to get better instead of killing himself. And she got ANGRY that people didn't hate him like she did. At some point someone should have grabbed her, shook her, and said to stop putting her emotions and self hate ahead of making a good story.
It's funny because Bojack Horseman had this problem, where people were too easy on Bojack and romanticised being a destructive mess. So they just wrote it into the show, made him worse, got meta about romanticising such characters... and then STILL didn't let him kill himself, because that's a stupid way to end things for a character who constantly runs from the consequences of their actions.
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>>153977568
I don't suspect it would have been better if Glitch had forced creative decisions on Goose, either. The only thing that could have helped is if Goose themself realized they needed help from a writer they trusted and asked. Huh, refusing to ever ask for help and it ends in tragedy - I guess Jax really was a self-insert.
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>>153977499
You're right, we need more art demoralising suicidals, see if they're really gonna do it. Those people could use a challenge.
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>>153977447
Why didn't he finish it?
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Flashbangs would've worked as a Chekov's Gun if you saw them maybe one or two other times after you initially see them. The rest of the episodes all take place within the Circus, and Abel's episodes has two scenes that take place in the hallways and yet we never see them again. The only context we see them in is their original context, so it's fair to assume they would never fucking come back again. The thing is, even if they were adequately foreshadowed, that doesn't fix the rest of the issues caused by using flashbangs in such a retarded way during the emotional climax of your entire fucking show. I hate those fucking things so much, genuinely the most retarded thing ever, fuck.
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>>153977548
>now, after she says that
>he starts apologizing for everything, saying he wished he could have one more chance, or could at least apologize to Gangle and Ragatha. Zooble deserved everything. and THEN he abstracts like a bitch
I couldn't agree more anon, you took the words out of my mouth
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>>153977499
I think so too, but a better one is "what effect does it have on the audience's well-being" and that's the test it really fails. If you don't believe me look at some of the discussion on Twitter or Reddit
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You think someone committed suicide over this?
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>>153977432
I despise this stupid saying so fucking much. Only mentally ill faggots say this.
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If you’re rewrite involves Jax surviving it’s automatically ass.
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>>153974506
original creations anchor + whiteboard
https://r9.whiteboardfox.com/96129143-6203-6163
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>>153977210
GOOD MOOOOOOOORNING /co/! Just wanted to remind you we are getting closer to the day where Jax (yes, THE dumbass twink rabbit from The Amazing Digital Circus) abstracts in The Last Act in theaters! It has been leaked! Make sure to save your tears for the upcoming Jax goodbye hug scene followed by xer leashing!

>G-GOOSEWORX WOULD NEVER! I-IT'S UNSATISFYING TO HIS DEVELOPMENT AND HE'S THE MOST POPULAR CHARACTER! TH-THE LEAKS HAVE TO BE FAKE AND A TROLL LIKE A META JOKE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE CAINE GETS TO COME BACK AND GET REDEEMED INSTE-

Keep barking and whining, Jaxhounds! Conformity gate isn't real! Let's face it, Jax was always planned to get humbled and abstracted by being Gooseworx's self-insert of xer pre-troon self! Nobody loves xer anyway! At least Gangle gets orbited by Zooble, and Ragatha get orbited by Kinger, LMAO. Pomni also only sees xer as a project to be fixed! Jaxniggers will cry and seethe while RagathARYANS will all dance and celebrate at xer demise when Ragatha is proven always right and takes back Pomni from xer! No one will miss xer!

TOTAL JAX PET PLAY

TOTAL RAGATHA VICTORY
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>>153977545
>>While I personally was fine with the red lamp bit I think I would change the setting of that scene to the mountain where Ribbit and Jax had their argument. It's cold but the sun is rising, so it's equal parts somber and peaceful.
ooh, I like that
The lamp felt completely random, yeah, would have been nice if it was a callback to literally anything
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My fixation? Over
Thread? Got boring
Ep9? Leaked and watched


See ya later niggers
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>>153977605
this is just "violent video games cause real violence" with a different coat of paint
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>>153977626
It is not, because violent video games don't cause violence, and people who play them know what they're signing up for.
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>>153977548
Then it turns out it was all a therapy adventure by Caine to create a situation so dire that Jax had no choice but to open up
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>>153977423
im pegging him to death
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>>153977620
morning repost
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jax, blow kinger.
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>>153977570
>>Abstraction can't be reversed.
people repeat that as a mantra, when that's according to the evil monster liar who has been torturing them.

Caine can's un-abstract people, but the others can, would actually be interesting.

>>153977577
Jax should have instead had to accept that to be saved, he would have to let everyone see into his abstraction world, knowing they would see his secrets. Been humiliated, exposed, begging for help.

and then rewarded for finally opening up. Yes he would have to go through the embarrassing apologies, and everyone would know about his crossdressing fetish, he would be punished but not dead. ,
>>153977636
that would have been something,
instead, we got nothing
everything was pointless.
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>>153977555
Leroy would've survived the circus, no doubt
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Kinger should have got his wife back.
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>>153977500
Zooble melting emotionally when she realizes a huge load is now swimming inside of her womb and being all clingy.
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>>153977498
>>153977518
>>153977543
>>153977568
>>153977577
>>153977599
As a fellow writer, it looks to me like what happened is that Goose wrote themself into a corner. They had certain things they needed to do in the ending no matter what, and the problem was fitting them together in a way that made sense and was satisfying. Goose is clever, and generally has a goose sense for drama, and may have even done the best they could have with the constraints. But the task was impossible. The only actual solution would have been to change aspects that were important to them and they'd been planning for a long time, and as a writer this can be extremely difficult.
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>>153977660
Is this whole thing Goose's suicide note?
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>>153977651
>caine fills Jax's mind with overwhelming kinger lust
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>>153977678
I hope so.
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The real question is the mindscape and why was it even possible.
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>>153977634
it is. you're using the same mentality of "you can't release this kind of content because it might make someone have dangerous thoughts"
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>>153977660
>Oh the irony, since she condemned Jax for that very thing
... I say that later in the same sentence
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>>153977599
>Abel's episodes has two scenes that take place in the hallways and yet we never see them again
Hey yeah, they literally walked past Ribbit's door, which is near where they were
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>>153977674
Goose, you literally claimed everything was planned from the start, and had full creative freedom from day one.

This wasn't your personal therapy session. These characters meant a lot to a lot of people, you hurt more people than Jax ever did.
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>>153977690
because story convenience
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>>153977692
I'm not advocating for a law against it, dipshit.
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>>153977625
You said this already, it's starting to sound like cope
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Im asexual
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>>153977625
This but I never watched episode 9 at all outside of webms posted here
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>>153977626
There's a difference between, eg, a violent video game and a radicalising propaganda video
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>>153977701
As fun as it would be to RP as Goose, I'm not them, I'm just a writer who empathizes with them. I'm not saying there's nothing they could have done to make the ending better, either. I'm just saying it would have been difficult and I understand why they didn't. That doesn't excuse them.
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>>153977690
Abstractions seem to be a manifestation of a private world for people who can't deal with the suffering of the circus anymore.

now we suddenly know you can just enter them when they are calm, and the person has a private space where they go through their memories, fantasies, random ideas etc. so can they go in there again? how has it been established that abstractions can't be reversed? do they have to let people in or can anyone enter?
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>>153977200
>>Stories should always end in a predictible way and should never make me uncomfortable or sad
That's literally exactly what happened for all of the other characters. They come to terms with having to live in the circus forever, get Caine back without him being a selfish dick, and can get whatever they want now. Hell, it was even implied during the credits that he gave them the ability to have sex, we see Ragatha blushing as she walks past Zooble's door while love hearts are bursting around it.
And what does Jax get? Accidentally fucks up Pomni's attempt to save him because he randomly stepped on a flashbang, even though his abstracted body was in the dark and had no reason to be moving at all.
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I disapprove of your tasteless shitty ass ending, but I will defend to the death your right to make it
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>>153977674
Ironically she had to kill her darlings by NOT being so fixated on killing her darling
(I'm not actually entirely opposed to an ending where Jax dies, just the way it was done, I just wanted to sound clever)
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>>153977681
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>even the homelessness was a self-insertion
https://x.com/i/status/2039651777944203588
fucking insane
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>>153977727
>even though his abstracted body was in the dark and had no reason to be moving at all.
the amount of nonsense that had to happen to kill off Jax is so contrived.
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>>153977656
>people repeat that as a mantra, when that's according to the evil monster liar who has been torturing them.
>Caine can's un-abstract people, but the others can, would actually be interesting.
No, abstraction is basically the only stakes this show has, reversing them would be kindergarten-tier writing and would be undermining what Goose is trying to say. There is no magic fix-it button to your mental health, you have to actually put in the work to try and get better.

>>153977599
>>153977697
The flashbangs were next to Rattie's door which they don't show a shot of them walking by in ep 7. Rattie is across from Ribbit.
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>>153977695
I know I'm sorry I got excited and posted before I finished reading I'm sorry I deleted in shame you're smart and I'm dumb pls no bully
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>>153977730
Yep. Trying to make laws against bad endings would just lead to people who have no idea what they're doing deciding what's shitty and what isn't. The actual solution is for artists to just not do it.
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>>153977740
You all use the same words
>stakes
>reversing

you think Game of Thrones is well written, don't you?
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>Kinger saw like 11 abstractions before his wife
>Had her alone in private
>Didn't even consider hugging her and finding out the mindscape thing

>Pomni's know Jax for like two months
>Is touch-averse
>Watched Ragatha get the shit beaten out of her by Kaufmo's abstraction
>Still risked a hug in a world where Caine's not there to fix her

Why does Kinger hate his wife so much?
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>Glitch/Goose can totally be held responsible if someone kills themselves over Jax
It hasn't worked before, why would it now lol
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>>153977740
>No, abstraction is basically the only stakes this show has, reversing them would be kindergarten-tier writing and would be undermining what Goose is trying to say. There is no magic fix-it button to your mental health, you have to actually put in the work to try and get better.
So... what if reversing abstraction was a long and arduous process that required the abstracted to want it?
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>>153977735
At this rate they will add a post credits scene where Leeroy the Mailman gets a call from Glitch Productions asking him to pitch a cartoon.
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>>153977753
You use words too. Interesting.
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>>153977656
Abstraction is one of the few stakes that actually exist in the Circus.
Removing the permanence of it would be childish if it's not justified extremely carefully.

There are options to play around with the concept of Abstractions (the abstractions are fixed but the main gang abstract or an abstraction is de-abstracted randomly but it cannot last) but a blanket fix-it-all option just isn't good.
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>>153977735
wtf
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>>153977743
I forgive you. Now let's get this bread (shit on this ending).
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I will take JOY in someone committing suicide over the ending
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>>153977760
>>153977760
>So... what if reversing abstraction was a long and arduous process that required the abstracted to want it?

yeah, imagine that...
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>>153977727
>Accidentally fucks up Pomni's attempt to save him because he randomly stepped on a flashbang, even though his abstracted body was in the dark and had no reason to be moving at all.
It's also super unclear if she was even trying to save him, if that was even possible, or if she ended up in there completely by accident and figured she might as well say goodbye while she's there
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>>153977727
I don't know anon, I didn't even watch the leaks, I'm only really criticizing the people saying
>Noooo, you can't depict a suicide in your show, think of the depressed people on twitter that identify with your piece of shit character !!
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>>153977771
it's a video game

the real stakes are the relationships
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>Jaxfags still dont get it

The 'moral' of the story is that you have to save yourself. Other people can be there for you but its ultimately up to YOU if you are going to reach out to them and put in the effort. Jax wasnt killed because of some moral judgement against his actions and character Jax killed himself because he chose to remain isolated and closed off from everyone else.

Compare Jax to gummigoo. Gummigoo also gors through an existential crisis realizing that his life is fake and hes not even a real person but he lets pomni help him and lift up his spirits. And unlike jax gummigoo is killed off directly by caine through what really is no fault of his own because the point is that sometimes bad things happen and there isnt much you can do about it. But unlike jax gummigoo gets brought back in a sense because he didnt kill himself. He gets put back in his lane and has a happy ending because even though he was killed he didnt do anything to bring that fate upon himself other than stepping out of line.

Jax doesnt suffer because the universe is against him jax suffers because he INSISTS on suffering. He has all the help in the world offered to him and turns it all away.

Jax is a cautionary tale that if you actively try not to get better or improve your situation you are going to have exaxtly the sort of time you want, a bad one.
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>>153977740
>No, abstraction is basically the only stakes this show has, reversing them would be kindergarten-tier writing
The only stake they has now is crazy AI who can torture them for eternity anytime they want which was reversed by an infant tier writing.
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>>153977730
I, on the other hand, no longer support freedom of speech. If elected I pledge 10 years of hard labour for a shitty ending.
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Yes my original creative project will feature my self-insert character getting horrifically tortured
I cannot get over the fact that me and Goose think alike
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>>153977788
too long
if you think jax deserved his fate you are a psychotic bitch
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>>153977735
I assume that's just her filming the shot of Leeroy being homeless
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>>153977781
>It's also super unclear
you've described the ENTIRE show

things that are clear

Gangle and Zooble are in love

Pomni and Jax 100% have an awkward love for each other neither of them can really explain or are ready to admit

and that's it. everything else is super vague and unclear.
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>>153977674
Here's how you fix your episode: Give the brainscan reveal more emotional weight and don't immediately start with fixing the Circus. This should be the foundation of which the entire episode is built upon. There are emotional stakes and every single character is at their lowest point, because not only are they fucking doomed physically, they realize how futile their existence is. There should be a bit of a chaos to all of this, obviously they should start getting better, but everyone needs help, this makes it so that you can't just include Jax easily, because he's not the only one suffering and if he decides to fuck off you still have other people that need to be taken care of. Second thing is to not blow your Jax abstraction load immediately. We already had two "sudden" deaths (Queenie and Caine), we don't need a third one, and we especially don't need it when it's done so poorly. Jax's potential abstraction is something that was built up to for the entire show and should be the climax of the show. By wasting it away immediately, you've literally spoiled eight episodes worth of buildup and now have the rest of a single episode to build up some kind of climax. Especially because the abstraction happens in a screen transition. At least with my foundation if this still ended up happening, the abstraction would've been given some weight. Instead of just "everyone is in high spirits fixing everything but also they choose to ignore Jax despite saying they'd help him". The final thing I want to say, is that by not abstracting him right away you've not written yourself into a corner for the actual climax, which is the hug. Just have him fucking abstract during that, and you don't need to use stupid flashbangs to get something to happen.
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>>153977706
you're still treating a piece of media as dangerous because it contains things that upset people
>>153977719
and you think the finale is closer to the latter?
>>153977745
>there shouldn't be laws against it but nobody should ever make upsetting media
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>>153977788
>Other people can be there for you but its ultimately up to YOU if you are going to reach out to them and put in the effort
So if you see a depressed person trying to say something but couldn't put it out of their mouth, you should let them kill themselves and your life will be better.
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This is getting out of hand, can we chill out?
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>>153977755
Kinger touched Queenie's face, and then supposedly Caine got rid of her.
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>>153977788
>The 'moral' of the story is that you have to save yourself.

like Ponni in episode 3?
like Gangle in episode 4 and the whole show?
the moral is that Goose hates who she used to be, and thinks they have grown into a better person by hating who they were.
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>>153977777
Jax...
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>>153974898
Glitch's fault for being greedy
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>>153977740
Anon, you do realize Goose can choose what to show right? Any scene could've easily shown the flashbangs if Goose wanted it to. You're a fucking retard.
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>>153977820
No, I wont be satisifed until blood is spilled and some kid killed himself
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fucking bratty frog...
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>>153977788
>but he lets pomni help him and lift up his spirits
At least Pomni didn't just silently watching until Gummigoo asked for help.
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>>153977787
the stakes really were the friends we made along the way
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>>153977795
Harsh but understandable
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>>153977820
Need more Ragatha posting
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>>153977802
>if you think jax deserved his fate you are a psychotic bitch

the issue is his fate is too awful for what he did. Sure he was a bully, but as we've seen, he backs right off when he actually upsets someone. That's nothing compared to what he's going through

Pomni also didn't deserve this fate, she cared about Jax, this was unfair on her
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>>153977760
>So... what if reversing abstraction was a long and arduous process that required the abstracted to want it?
Not a fan of it. I don't care if this makes me sound morbid but I like that Jax got the ending he earned. If the finale was like two hours longer and it was maybe Queenie and only Queenie who came back I might be fine with it.
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>>153977842
unironically yes.
why do you need "death" to be the stake in every story?
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Don't have time to write it right now, but imagine The One Who's Defending the Show and one of the lines is "my media literacy is past infinity"
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>>153977788
>The 'moral' of the story is that you have to save yourself. Other people can be there for you but its ultimately up to YOU
The point is the execution flubs this
Endingsimps can keep repeating themes all they want, but I haven't seen any of you ONCE actually break down a scene to explain how it works, meanwhile people critical of the ending have been doing that ad nauseam since the leaks
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jax would rather ribbit and kaufmo de-abstract before he ever does
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>>153977781
She didn't know she'd get sucked into his mindscape when she hugged his abstracted form, all she knew was he'd be calm enough to touch.
Goose described Pomni as being too stubborn to give up, so it's safe to say she WAS trying to restore him. And then there's the fact that she almost let herself explode with him.
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>>153977853
Are you saying Queenie didn't deserve it? The show is saying it is Queenie's fault not asking help from her husband.(Of course this is absolutely not Caine's fault somehow.)
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>>153977853
the issue is you only think it's a good ending because you hate Jax. But you're ok with some other character who's been gone for over a decade coming back? that makes significantly less sense. you are clouded by hate.
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>>153977735
You do realize that's Goose filming the shot, right?
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>>153977836
All I did was explain was where the flashbangs were (by Rattie's door) and how we didn't see them in ep 7 (we didn't see Rattie's door). You're the retard here.
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>>153977857
i actually agree, the stakes were pretty fucking high for Jax when he thought he'd be trapped for all eternity with people who'd make fun of him for being a troon
hell, if he didn't have the option to "escape" via abstraction, he'd probably be even more neurotic
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Kill yourself for Ribbit
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>>153977735
>>153977765
>>153977773
Are you people mentally impaired?
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>>153977804
Yeah
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>>153977877
Then don't include me in the reply. My post was specifically about how easy it would've been to show them at any point. Your reply just sounds like justifying not showing them.
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Denji fucking won
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>>153977877
is this some kind of hypno fetish mind control?
haha...imagine controlling pomnis mind and telling her to suck you off and not take a breather so you can see her face changing colours like a rainbow...
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>>153977891
STOP IT
I'm hearing voices again
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>>153977893
Goose hands.
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Still think Caine should have deleted the abstracted entirely. It would feel more like letting go and moving on. Instead Pomni and Kinger are shown going to an aquarium to watch Jax and Queenie's bloated corpses swimming.
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>>153977839
>>153977885
Wtf why does a bratty GF that keeps telling me that I should kill myself sound so hot to me? I'm not even suicidal
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>>153977860
Jax accepting help and the abstraction fading away, shrinking to reveal Jax and Pomni hugging, eyes still closed, Jax still begging for help, saying that he's sorry for everything, blubbering that he loves Pomni, that he just wishes he could apologize to Gangle and Ragatha, that he could chat with zooble again, that he wishes he accepted their help. in front of the rest of the cast, who form a group hug. and when he realizes
"wait, uh, did you guys, hear all that?"
"shhhh, don't ruin it, idiot"
"uhhhh... can we pretend this never happened?"
"no"
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Imagine playing video games together with Jax and mutually shit talking other people for laughs.
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>>153977884
>i actually agree, the stakes were pretty fucking high for Jax when he thought he'd be trapped for all eternity with people who'd make fun of him for being a troon

the real villain was Jax's insecurity.
and it won.
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>>153977863
>Goose described Pomni as being too stubborn to give up
Except when Jax literally tried to tell something but couldn't put it in word and walked away, for narrative reason.
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>>153977909
>bloated corpse
More like watching dolphins passing your comatose grandpa among them like a soccer ball, it's very life affirming in fact
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>>153977920
FACT: If Jax had someone like this he would never abstract
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>>153977920
I don't have to, my closest friend online basically is a Jax in personality
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Bully women.
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>>153977930
I'M GOING TO ALICE
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I'm more bummed about the merch and promotional images didn't remain timeless.
That image of them all chilling in a mall feels awkward now.
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>>153977920
Good, good.
Now replace Jax with Caine.
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>>153977788
Leroy did save himself
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Caine owes me sex
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>>153977858
It's news to me that it's news to you
To which degree she’s writing for you
We could go on and on, but in the end, who are we kidding?
My media literacy is past infinity, am I getting through?

Seems that the fanbase is turning on Goose
All 'cause they can’t face their fave got the noose
Why bite the hand that feeds
When it's the only hand you're getting?

It's time you see that TADC
Is the sole fanbase you're ever gonna see
So strap on in and take it on the chin
And don't forget who's running the show

Now look at this
Absolute bliss
Oh, what a shock
Watch where you walk

I'm the cope, I run the place
Simping is my game
Not enthused? Feeling confused?
Oh, what a god damned shame

Congratulations, all of my friends
Public relations are getting a cleanse
Your points won't be address
And yet I'm nowhere close to quitting

So watch the show and just ignore it blows
'Cause all that I know is that it’s what Goose chose
You whine to me, but you're too blind to see
That she’s the one who's running the show
Yeah!
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>>153977788
Nah. You see them being better off with Jax
The message is clear enough, kill yourself if you're a burden to others so they can live more comfortably
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>>153977952
that doesn't help the people who think Jax deserved it.

because we know that IRL, without Caine torturing him, he lived and became a better person. Him not getting to that level in the circus makes it LESS his fault
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>>153977944
Gangle...
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>>153977949
I unironically hate seeing Caine just hang out with everyone in this retarded fanservice garbage. He should've stayed dead, what a fucking waste of a finale.
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>>153977902
it's from this
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>>153977850
>the issue is his fate is too awful for what he did.
he pushed a girl to abstraction, he deserves to abstract. simple as.
>Sure he was a bully, but as we've seen, he backs right off when he actually upsets someone.
him stopping his bullying for two minutes because he was called out bad enough changes literally nothing when he bullies everyone horribly for literal years
>That's nothing compared to what he's going through
he made gangle feel like she wasn't even a person, fuck off
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Jaxfags should do a suicide pact and kill themselves
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>>153977976
What did she see?
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>>153977498
>Saving Jax, ending with the discovery that Abstractions are reversable, leaving Caine dead, much better and would have a POINT.
>It's gross bad and pointless if MY favourite dies but good when it happens to the others
This is why it's hard to be sympathetic to the Jaxfags
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>>153977850
>Pomni also didn't deserve this fate, she cared about Jax, this was unfair on her
I mean, she got to see him doing okay in another world. That had to be some closure for her?
God, her crying for him...
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>Listen, we're not gonna have you wandering off alone somewhere and abstracting or something.
that was a fucking lie
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>Thread at the start was comfy
>Now this shit
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>>153977983
>he pushed a girl to abstraction, he deserves to abstract. simple as.
ok

so zooble and the others pushed him into abstraction?

>him stopping his bullying for two minutes because he was called out bad enough changes literally nothing when he bullies everyone horribly for literal years
not what happened. Jax haters have to outright lie about the content of the show.

>he made gangle feel like she wasn't even a person, fuck off
he felt like he wasn't even a person

Jax was a victim. Caine was the real villain. Caine is responsible for every single abstraction.
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>>153977983
>he pushed a girl to abstraction, he deserves to abstract. simple as.
No, he dumped a girl, and then she abstracted. If we talk about who is more responsible to past abstractions, Caine exists.
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>>153977983
She's not a person. They're all files. No matter how much they deny it. They are not human and never will be.
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>>153977998
What amazing foreshadowing. Bravo, Goose.
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>>153977935
Honestly it's a shame Ribbit was so uncharacterised, it's not intuitive to me at all why they'd be close
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>>153977994
Why do you niggers always take it into bad faith ro justify your hatred
Now that Anon is forced to explain since you act like a cunt on purpose
It's not even an isolated case, this shit happens every time someone even remotely suggests Jax coming back
Does it trigger you that badly to chimp out like this?
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>>153977994
Caine isn't a person, he's a malfunctioning AI who's been making homunculi, implanting them with real people's memories, and torturing them until they go insane.
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>>153977935
he DID
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>>153977947
We need a new version where Jax is a "Kaufmo didn't show up today" style cutout
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>>153978007
Jax haters think Jax is so sexy, if he stopped talking to them they would just die instantly.
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>>153977998
This makes even less sense because by the time Jax abstracts, everyone else was starting to perk up and be in a good mood. So why the fuck didn't they keep an eye on him?
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>>153977336
just woke up and read this in the last thread. it hurts
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>>153978021
For the plot.
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>>153978007
It's not even dumped, Jax hands are unironically clean on this case, he just pushed her away and she insisted on coming back and hurting herself more on him pushing her off
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>>153977977
It feels like Goose was so hellbent on torturing Jax to death that she threw in some fanservice with Caine at the end in attempts to soften the blow, not thinking about how it'd come off
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>>153977210
>heres how jax can still win the election
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Can we go back to misogynistic Pomni.
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>>153977994
Caine was also my favourite, and I agree he should have stayed dead, or at least should have been brought back in a way that doesn't just effortlessly retcon his (well-written) tragedy
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Pomni...
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Yeah, man... Themes and such...
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>>153978033
Did I really phrase my post that fucking badly? Jesus Christ, I don't think the leak is fake in the slightest. I'm talking about a hypothetical future show that does this. Read my post, I'm going insane.
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>>153978011
It's a subversion!
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It's not really a Soma ending so much as an it was all a dream ending. They were never real, just AI copies. Also, this means there's no explanation for abstraction now. Caine and random NPCs could abstract. A random inanimate object could abstract.
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Where can I even watch the leak?
God modern Internet sucks.
Something millions of people are waiting for got leaked and I cannot find it anywhere.
I swaer all search engines are useless now.
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Thematically I feel Caine should have fixed his abandonment issues by getting help from the others instead of pulling himself by the bootstraps, while Jax should have been the one having a Shinji moment and realizing that he needed to love and forgive himself first in order to open himself up to the others.
"Some people just can't be saved" in the specific context of this show just doesn't do it for me, man.
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>>153978044
You aren't, these niggas are with their Jax derangement syndrome
You'd think they'd get better with him be stuck in his personal Hell but nope, only gotten worse
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>>153978021
because when he found out he wasn't real and was trapped forever, he lashed out and said mean things.

hence, he deserve eternal torture. Jesus Christ.

>>153978023
the next few will be heart warming. But then Pomni remembers Evil Jax exists...
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>>153978031
It didn't soften the blow at all. It was the most insulting, unfair, unsatisfying, and unpleasant credit I ever saw.
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>>153977727
>he gave them the ability to have sex,
I'm pretty sure giving them control of the Circus means they could grant themselves the ability now, but for a moment I imagined the cast sitting down to give Caine sex ed so he'd know what they needed.
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>>153977935
True! True!
>>153977939
>My first thought was if you were someone who knew me and is talking about me
It's hard to get the fact that Jax is LITERALLY ME out of my head.
>>153977949
Caine would hardly be someone good to play vidya with. He has negative agency to create fun situations.
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>>153978057
I'd like to add sadistic to this myself, if I may
>look how happy they are without Jax
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>>153977777
quints for this?
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Okay, but what was the point of showing those scenes of Pomni getting closer and closer to climaxing every time he treated one of the girls like shit in his mindscape?
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Are there been other cases of metaphorical or literal suicide from a major character in co media ? Only one I can think of rn is RWBY. (Spoiler for RWBY I guess)
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>>153978053
This, Jax's entire problem stemmed from his belief that he's a bad person due to being treated as such in childhood. Therefore being known means being exposed as bad, and any bad thing he does in order to protect himself is fine because he's bad. Only for him to die still insisting that he's bad.
Caine on the other hand needed his massive ego checked, and shouldn't have been able to come back without the cast's consent in some way.
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I'd be pretty happy if all Jax apologists also died myself.
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>>153977755
>get rid of annoying co-workers
>especially the weirdo whose better than you
>get rid of hag wife
>gain young harem
>get rid of any potential rivals
>reset failure AI son to a success
This is Grant's escapist Sims game.
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>>153978003
holy fuck you really are incapable of honesty.
>so zooble and the others pushed him into abstraction?
they reached out to him countless times and he refused their help, Jax turned violently on ribbit when they opened up to each other, treated her like she was a threat to him, and tried to turn the others against her. not the same, fuck off.
>not what happened. Jax haters have to outright lie about the content of the show.
it is an undeniable fact that Jax had been bullying everyone for years and always returned to his ways even if he was briefly made to stop, fuck off.
>he felt like he wasn't even a person
he forced that hurt onto others, fuck off.
>Jax was a victim. Caine was the real villain. Caine is responsible for every single abstraction.
nobody else does even a fraction of the awful shit Jax does because they're suffering under Caine, not an excuse, fuck off.

TL;DR fuck off, you dishonest psycho
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>>153978077
Ruby dies?
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>>153978057
>>153978068
Oh, absolutely. "not thinking about how it'd come off" was an extreme understatement on my part. Just trying to posit what the fuck she might have been thinking that this ever sounded like a good idea.
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Jax was good as the asshole who was mean and uncaring.
Jax as the vulnarable PTSD bitch sucks ass.
And I hate how forced he is. Episode 1 promised variety. Second half of the show is just the Jax&Pomni show.
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Everyone shut the fuck up and post porn in the thread right now.
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>>153978082
>and shouldn't have been able to come back without the cast's consent in some way.
This. It would be better if the cast could take blue AI from Caine, and choose between them with blue button and red button again. Gangle and Ragatha understanding and giving Caine one more chance through character developments they got('perfect' mask can be painful) will be more satisfying.
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>>153978094
Pomni is the camera that records The Jax Show
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>>153978088
>holy fuck you
>fuck off.
>fuck off.
>fuck off.
>fuck off.
>fuck off.

using swear words doesn't make your arguments any better

Jax did not deserve eternal torture
Pomni did not deserve to see the man she had feelings for die in her arms
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if 5 i marry princess loolilalu
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Not enough scentposting.
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>>153978088
>nobody else does even a fraction of the awful shit Jax does because they're suffering under Caine
Ribbit abstracted but Pomni didn't. So it is Ribbit's fault being weak.
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>>153978109
>giving Caine one more chance through character developments they got('perfect' mask can be painful)
kino
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Pomni is the kind of woman to make fun of Ribbit for being such a failure of a savoirfag that she abstracted and absolve Jax of all blame.
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>>153978088
>no, YOU are the psycho for not defending the AI with a God complex
>oh? his issue on never feeling like he was enough a he was shoved to the side? naaaah, just blue AI stuff
fucking really nigga
did Jax time travel and also became responsible about the prior abstractions then?
you had Caine running ringleader God for years with who knows what being pulled with his own adventures
imagine being forced to go into adventures by some AI where he thinks he can do no wrong, day by day
only until recently sort of relenting on the suggestion box that was somewhat recent given it only had suggestions from the cast
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>>153978126
And Queenie. Queenie had a loving, devoted husband and still chose death.
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>show builds up to jax's abstraction
>its pomni that abstracts instead
now this would've been a kino subversion, unironically. obviously you'd have to rework a lot.
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>>153978149
This and it's a much better cautionary tale then "after you kill yourself, everyone is shown happy and peaceful "
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>Caine comes back to the circus and apologizes for everything he did
>They say they can’t trust or forgive him after everything; he accepts that
>Caine goes off into the void and leaves the circus to the humans to manage on their own, mirroring his abandonment by C&A in a positive way
There, I fixed half the problems with the ending.
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>>153978091
It's metaphorical, a bit like abstraction, and she comes back at the end of the season, but in the moment it's very much choosing ego death in front of her friends because she can't cope with trauma.
I spawned exactly the same kind of discussions on /co/ about promoting suicide at the times.
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>>153974830
>Before everyone else
huh
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>>153977140
Are you autistic??? Why are you learning a message from Jax, the actual retard who didn't want to get help, rather than Caine, the one who fucked up but wanted to do better? Are you actually more brain damaged than literal troon writing this show???
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Gangle should breakdance.
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uhh fishguy? i was on /tv/ and saw this. why did you do it?
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>>153978170
*It spawned, I didn't do shit
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>gangle on her way to teaming up with jax again
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If I roll a 6 im gonna have lovey dovey sex with pomni in an hour
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>>153978177
Caine being sorry won't bring back Scratch, who he was implied to have mindfucked to death.
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>>153978177
Because more than half of last episode's screentime was about Jax abstraction, and it started from Pomni letting Jax leave and abstract after seeing Jax trying to tell something and fail.
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>>153978149
literally any other character abstracting, and Jax's guilt and misery over it, would have been more interesting.
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>>153978201

it's not just that it's not what i wanted

it's that this shit is so ass
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The way events play out, the only argument the story portrays that's not in favour of Jax killing himself is "dying is scawy, u might cry"
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>>153978193
What kind of sex are they having this time?
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>>153978015
>Caine isn't a person, he's a malfunctioning AI who's been making homunculi,
By that logic the C&A programmers had it coming, especially Kinget. Or is it because Caine is an AI?

And yet the digital brainscans are still people apparently, but not the sentient AI.
See now I get why the Gumnigoos don't like you.

>and torturing them until they go insane.
I mean the humans where shown enjoying their adventures untill Jax turned on them. Does Jax torturing the others means he deserves to die?
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If they have admin perms now, can they live out crazy fetishes too?
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>>153974898
Are you new? That’s what these threads are all about now
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I just can't see a purple Bugs Bunny as pitiable or antagonistic.
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>>153978220
>I mean the humans where shown enjoying their adventures untill Jax turned on them
I don't think anyone is enjoying episode 8.
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if i get evens then i marry ragatha and live happily ever after
if i get odds then i marry evil ragatha and live happily ever after
if i get dubs or 0 i marry ragatha's mom and live crappily ever after
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>>153978250
Ha
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>>153978250
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>>153978250
FUCK
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>>153978250
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>>153978215
kek
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>>153977674
>But the task was impossible.
>The only actual solution would have been to change aspects that were important to them and they'd been planning for a long time, and as a writer this can be extremely difficult
No, that's literally what a good writer would have done. When you're building something, it's normal to have certain things planned and realize that it isn't going to work in the end product, in which case you have to revise them.
It doesn't only apply to writing either.
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>>153978120
wasn't trying to improve my argument, just express my contempt. oh and I accept your concession.
>>153978126
>it's Ribbit's fault for being more vulnerable than Pomni
you jaxfags really are psychotic. Ribbit went from close friend to violently rejected and treated as an enemy. the circus almost certainly weighed on her but it was Jax's betrayal that pushed her over the edge.
>>153978141
that's a whole lot of shit I didn't say. maybe you should've read what I actually said: everyone else suffered through that same shit and didn't turn into an abusive scumbag like Jax
>>153978144
Queenie wasn't mentally strong enough to endure watching all of her friends abstract around her. everyone's got different limits, but Ribbit seemed to be doing alright until Jax came along and pushed her past hers.
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>>153978082
>This, Jax's entire problem stemmed from his belief that he's a bad person due to being treated as such in childhood.
As opposed to everyone else who where well adjusted and had great pasts, like Ribbit an Ragatha.
>Caine on the other hand needed his massive ego checked
And of course Caine was just that way because, nothing to do with abandonment and locked away.

Anyway he did get his ego checked. He got deleted out of the Circus. He also asks the casts permission to help them and gives up the reigns to them.
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>>153978286
>everyone's got different limits
Apply that to Jax too.
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>>153978220
literally all of them did worse than Jax

>>153978220
>I mean the humans where shown enjoying their adventures untill Jax turned on them.
i love how Jax time traveled to make everyone else abstract, and how he's the only person responsible for his own abstraction, and also responsible for every other abstraction ever

Everyone hated the gloinks,
wait, Jax saved Kigner and Gangle from Kaufmo's abstraction, what an asshole

everyone except Jax hated candy kingdom

Caine made the super scary adventure in the manor specifically to kill zooble by making a section that she alone couldn't get through

Jax was literally raped by gangle in episode 4, caine made that adventure especially awful to punish the crew for asking for the suggestion box adventures

Caine sabotaged the adventures in episode 5, including adding a centipede to Ragatha's softball adventure, skipping Zooble's bar because we had too much conversation in a "character driven show"

Episode 6 was caine giving up, and his lack of interference made it a much better adventure.

Episode 7 was caine fucking with them, again. Jax literally tried to avoid people to not cause trouble, and was outright helpful until he had a panic attack. which nobody helped him with or asked him about.

Episode 8 was caine literally torturing everyone, and Jax trying to help. Caine tortured them for weeks on end.

Episode 9 Jax has a breakdown after finding out he wasn't real and said mean things. guess he deserves to be tortured for eternity.

Jax being a difficult, troublemaking guy isn't on the same level as Caine's DECADES of torturing people.
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>>153978286
>Ribbit went from close friend to violently rejected and treated as an enemy. the circus almost certainly weighed on her but it was Jax's betrayal that pushed her over the edge.
if genders were reversed you would change your tune so quick its disgusting
fuck off with this victim blaming
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>all of Jax's victims (minus Kaufmo) are older women
i see
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>>153978286
Are you jewish?
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>>153978187
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what's your favorite fanart?
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>>153978286
>but Ribbit seemed to be doing alright until Jax came along and pushed her past hers
that's your imagination, not what's shown in the show
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>>153978305
>dad leaves
>mostly shits on the parent who stayed
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>>153978244
No one went insane from episode 8.
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>>153977436
kek
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>>153978314
the porn of Jax being pegged by Pomni and then crying, holding her, as she strokes his ears and tells him how well he did, promising he can be the top for real next time
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>>153978325
Jax dies within 5 minutes of episode 8 ending
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all that shows me was that Ribbit was more a victim of Goose's writing than anything Jax ever did
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Jax is a brat made for older women.
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>>153978333
I feel so bad for this frog, literally only existed to get gaslighted and suffer
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>>153978314
Blowing kinger.
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Who is Dianne Monteiro? Why does episode 9 feature her so prominently?
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>>153977501
Kek
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Jax is the youngest in the circus and people just enabled him at every turn.
Ragatha and Kaufmo were oblivious to how he treated Ribbit. They weren't oblivious to how he treated Gangle from the moment she appeared, but never stepped in. Ragatha agreed to never bring up Ribbit with zero pushback. When Zooble came at him for hitting the button, not only did they call her off, but they didn't even address his bizarre behaviour in a less hostile way.
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>>153978323
Goose isn't beating the misogynist allegations, is she?
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>>153978346
>Jack dumps her
>She dies
Okay, if anyone abstracted after Kinger revealed they are brain scans, it means Kinger killed them, right?
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>>153978303
>blames ribbit for being vulnerable
>cries victim blaming when I say Jax was wrong to hurt her
psychotic.
>>153978310
are you? you sure like trying to put the blame on others using a tragic backstory as a shield
>>153978316
incapable of honesty.
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>>153978350
>Jax... Blow kinger.
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>>153978088
>they reached out to him countless times and he refused their help
Countless my ass. Kinger did none, despite saying the philosophy of "in this world, the worst thing you can do is make someone think they're not wanted or loved.". Gangle did none. Ragatha did none. Zooble once which just ringed hollow. Pomni did more than once at least but in the end when it would have mattered acted OOC and just let him fuck off and die in a corner.
Anon isn't wrong about what he said, the difference being UNINTENTIONALLY fucking with his insecurities, Pomni wanting to get closer to Jax, Zooble with the crossdressing suggestion, Gangle by starting to hang with Zooble instead, Ragatha by saying about his past friends(which she apologized). It's not like it was malicious because they didn't know any better on Jax issues, nobody truly did, but it did contribute to his abstraction.
Some anon once memed about Ribbit hugging a cactus and bleeding to death and it does apply here, sometimes you just have to let go if the person doesn't want you around them for whatever reason, but she insisted and just let herself get hurt in the process, forcing Jax to go into extremes to push her away.
>it is an undeniable fact that Jax had been bullying everyone for years
Caine has been at it for even longer. You can't look away from his past actions. You give a kid that "means well" God powers, what do you think it happens? That's Caine, in case you forgot. TADC plot isn't solely just the 9 episodes but also prior to these shown before.
>nobody else does even a fraction of the awful shit Jax does because they're suffering under Caine, not an excuse, fuck off.
EP8. Not just their own personally tailored torture but prior to distract him. Of course, other episodes has some to a minor degree.
As an example, Gangle nearly abstracting with the wagie adventure not quite going the way she'd have hoped and committing suicide by isekai.
Makes you think how many times this happened with past members.
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Jax was to glooby to live.
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Jax fucks white women.
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Hrrrrnggg imagine post mental breakdown Jax. His head resting on your chest as the last of his tears soak into your shirt. A hand of his holding the nape of your neck and another stalking the skin of your side. Imagine caressing the fur of his head, combing across with furled fingers. The way he twitches to your touch, responding in kind, thumbs lazily rubbing circles into you. Slowly but surely letting his form further fall into yours. Just imagine.
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unusually high concentration of jaxfags today, huh?
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Caine is that one kid from the Twilight Zone who sends people to corn fields for not doing what he wants.
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>>153978383
Advocate for equal rights, motherfucker.
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>>153978301
This is what I mean. You demonise everyone else and downplay the shit Jax has done because you cling to the idea that Jax's abstraction was a punishment that he was deserving of, not a sad consequence of pushing everyone away.
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>>153978404
no, white women force themselves onto jax and he backs down because he's a virgin cuck
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>>153978404
>Gangle on her knees wailing about how unfair it is and how she should've been born white
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Ribbun AMV set to this song

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=aIWdo0HoErk&si=YjPSYTwU3Fq-pqt4
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I thought their goodbye was kind of cute.
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>>153978406
Pomni...
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>Cherish the people around you. You never know when they'll be gone. In this world, the worst thing you can do is make someone think they're not wanted or loved.
>Anyway, I'm going to hang out alone in my pillow fort and abandon the rest of you to your interpresonal drama. Have fun coping and seething about a situation I helped engineer, don't come a-knockin!
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>>153978420
>not a sad consequence of pushing everyone away.
So the lesson of this episode was people who suicided were too weak to ask help and we should not help them unless they ask first.
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>>153977518
>MBTI
>unironically
is the cut off age 13 or 18 for this site? either way, too young
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>>153978411
seems to be par for the course
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>>153978438
>Throws a flashbang in his fort
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>>153978406
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>>153978420
Who's "everyone"?
It's just Pomni that gave a shit in the end.
It's like saying neglectful parents felt for their kids when they were gone and there were signs.
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>>153978332
After time had passed after the Circus broke and Kinger confirmed they where brain scans.
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>>153978456
Digital Circus if it was good.
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>>153978420
none of that addresses anything i said
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>>153978458
>It's like saying neglectful parents felt for their kids when they were gone and there were signs.
surprisingly accurate
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>No one picked up on the Dianne Monteiro and "Chill Fellas" connection
I'll be here solving the ARG left behind by Goose.
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I want to make Jax cum while i pound his ass. Make him moan like a girl.
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>>153978473
Because all you wrote was the demonising of other characters and the sanitising of Jax.
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>>153978458
BUT THERE WERE SIGNS
ZOOBLE GOES "OH WE'RE NOT LETTING YOU GO RUN OFF AND ABSTRACT BTW" BUT LOOK WHERE THAT HEADED
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Episode 1-8 are a really nice story. 8 really only needed five more minutes of Kinger revealing the brain scan things and then showing them coming to terms with it. Perfect ending.
9 feels like tagged on fan fiction garbage.
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>>153978498
You have serious mental issues
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>>153978456
Imagine having a mental breakdown into Ragathas tits
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>>153978456
GOD
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I wish the ending was sadder, I think they all should abstract until Caine is all alone with just Pomni and he yells at her not to do this again to him. Have it be relived that they always end up abstracting and he has to start over again hard reset Everytime.
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>>153977415
i know you posted this like 2 hours ago but it's important that you know that this made me laugh
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>Four Abstractions not painted in the mural
Fucking fake assholes.
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>>153978438
Kek>>153978444
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>>153978376
>Why does Jax mainly bully the girls?
>He has issues he hasn't worked out with himself yet.
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>>153977415
well played
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Ragatha giving Jax a nursing handjob.
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>>153978515
go fuck yourself you psychotic foid
you probably touched your fish hole when jax was crying in the last scene
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>>153978490
Pomni...
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Can we all relax and talk about how we would like to cuddle and coddle and pamper and please our cutie Jax?
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>>153978533
literally only one man, and he's insane
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Zooble whimpering audio
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>>153978544
Ragatha...
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Is Ragatha based on the character from I have no Mouth who has sex with everybody to keep them sane?
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>>153978555
Zooble when she realizes Gangle has abstracted.
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>>153978533
>missing the point of his mom issues plus lacking a paternal figure
Many such cases.
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>>153978555
trips...
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>>153978456
This why despite all of goose's efforts to shut it down, bunnydoll remains unfathomably based.
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>>153978555
Need this now, especially with her asking to be impregnated.
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0 and im gonna kill myself today
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I can’t wait to hear Gangle whimpering when she cries
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>>153978560
>it better not be small penis fagg-
>mfw
I'm spending too much time here
How did I know?
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Okay guys, make your choice:
>cathartic scene of Jax sobbing into Ragatha's tits, happy ending is earned, everything's fine
or
>YOU get to sob into Ragatha's tits, but despite her best efforts to comfort you in the moment, she secretly gets the ick so bad that she abstracts 5 minutes later while trying to dry your tears off of her dress, feelings sickened that she can feel the dampness all the way down to her skin
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>>153978580
NOOOOOOOOO DONT FUCKING DO IT you fuck
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>>153978542
No not a Jax fan team Kinger all the way, it’s more that everyone dies anon, I don’t want them all to abstract at once, just over time, connect the ending to the theme of day after day after day record scratch. Humans will eventually go bits if they never change and live forever.
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>>153978562
No, that's Jax.
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>>153978495
This was a genuinely confusing montage. Was it Pomni's memories of Jax. Jax's memories of Pomni? Why didn't they show his interactions with anyone other than Pomni?
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>>153978420
>>153978498
I can't be bothered to argue with them anymore, it's actually maddening. their entire perception of the show is just too utterly fucked
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>>153978580
Take as many as you can in cinemas first
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>>153978587
First one.
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Fucktoy Jax AU
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Jax, blow kinger
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>>153978579
Really bold of Goose to accurately insult her own episode during the most tryhard sequence
This whole finale feels like an elaborate exercise in self harm
Suicide-by-audience
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>>153978533
His mom took the piss out of him when he opened up.
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>>153978580
uhh, bye
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How would you even respond to Jax's schizo meltdown?
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>>153978601
I accept your concession
Don't become a car salesman
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>>153978599
it was the "Jax is trans geddit guise?" reveal
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>>153977620
How's it going for you today, Original Chads?
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>>153978599
>Why didn't they show his interactions with anyone other than Pomni?
Did he have any?
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>>153978616
Walk the fuck away.
That's it.
That's all it would take to fix it.
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>>153978616
Have another friend...?
She has Kaufmo. Ragatha was too lame to be her friend though.
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>>153978580
Man the rolls are cruel today
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>>153978607
What do each of the girls use him for?
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>>153978616
>Ooohhh, I thought I'd done something wrong, but you're just crazy. Cool. Now I can emotionally detach from this drama and return to the life I had before you came along.
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>>153978616
Blowing kinger
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Zooble is such a monkey nigger that looks like a man
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>>153978580
thank you for slightly reducing overpopulation o7
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>>153978616
Ribbit should had beated the shit out of Jax into submission
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>>153978620
yep, I concede that you're being gangstalked, the lizard people are in your walls, and the government is monitoring you through little radios they installed in your teeth. all of it's real and you're so smart for seeing what us sheeple can't
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>>153978626
feels good to be alive (sometimes)
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>>153978646
>return to the life I had before having a cute femboy boyfriend
Certainly it was impossible.
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Acheivable natty?
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>>153978639
Zooble uses various strap ons of varying textures and shapes
Rags lets him motorboat her
Pomni has complex BDSM roleplay
Gangle does Shibari
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>>153978650
OOOH that's why she had gender dysphoria!
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>>153978053
True.
Jax abstracting despite everyone reaching out to him over the series because he wouldn't accept the help works ok on its own. Caine looking for answers outside the Circus after he's punted out after crossing the line, and then having a whole epiphany and working to fix things without anyone carrying him mostly works.

But next to each other it makes a
>There's a limit to how much you can help someone but there's no limits to a person's ability to improve if they want it enough
message.
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If I roll dubs im leaving this general for good
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>>153978584
They are pretty well written and always in character, but about small dick humiliation but also pomni likes it?
he also makes this AU
part1
>>153977780
part 2
>>153977336
waiting for it to devolve into micropenis porn where Jax is indonesian and looks exactly like his ex boyfriend
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>>153978599
Neither, it was just a bunch of Jax scenes, many of which didn't even have Pomni in them
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>>153978616
>this bunny needs rape correction...
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>>153978656
Uh, car salesman sir...?
That's not what you were trying to sell me earlier
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>>153978663
How does he fit in a car
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Jax doing rabbit things.
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>>153978668
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>>153978682
Jax chewing on you in his sleep.
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>>153978675
>Why's Jax so mean to me </3
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>>153978672
It was either Jax on his own or Jax with Pomni. And a large portion was with Pomni.
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Frog culo on massive screen
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Jax blow a train
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>>153978666
>There's a limit to how much you can forgive yourself but there's no limits to a psychopath AI's ability to feel no remorse about what they fucked up
If Caine is capable of feeling mental stress as humans and can be abstracted he should've be abstracted long time ago. Luckily, he survived because he doesn't give a fuck about people abstracted because of him.
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>>153978692
Yes because most of his scenes in general were with Pomni
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>>153978691
jej
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>>153978666
NIGGA WHO TF IS EVERYONE
IT WAS JUST POMNI AND ZOOBLE WITH A COMMENT THAT GOT MEMORYHOLED
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>>153978666
it's shit

remove Caine, let him be gone. Kinger resets a new Caine
Pomni saves Jax after he finally accepts her help after she sees that he's literally a crossdressing homosexual and she says that it's fine, she loves him anyway, she'll peg him wearing the president suit and he can wear the maid suit

Pomni and Jax walk back to the group together

Ragatha
>Jax, you're... back... are you OK?
>no... i'm pretty far from ok... but thanks for asking. Thanks for always asking ragatha, i'm sorry for never appreciating you
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Zooble's sexy voice reverberating off theater walls
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evil ragatha cunny in my dreams erotic
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Jax stamping his foot.
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Jax blow.... ME NIGGA
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>>153978653
Kingerchads always on top.
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>>153978601
Yeah the correct perception of the show
where
>Jax was literally raped by gangle in episode 4, caine made that adventure especially awful to punish the crew for asking for the suggestion box adventures
>>153978301
happened in the show.
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If you watch this show for any reason other than Jax, you're watching it wrong
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Is it weird that I want to plap irl zooble voice actor? I could just fall asleep on her fat and she would whisper drity things to me
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>>153978702
>Yes because most of his scenes in general were with Pomni
He spent most of time without Pomni from episode 1 to 4 but somehow Goose picked scenes related to Pomni.
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>>153978737
Kovach...
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>>153978729
yep you're right, the government is fluoridating the water to shrink our pineal glands, you're so smart for figuring it out
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>>153978735
But will Jax finally blow kinger tho?
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>>153978707
OH GOD

imagine if ZOOBLE was the one who saved Jax? Zooble seeing the Jax femboy stuff and apologizing about the maid outfit, that she didn't know that he had a thing about that, she really was just joking. Why is he apologizing to Jax? really? she means it?
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>>153978653
>Ragatha only two more than Disappearing Guy
>Zooble TIED with Disappearing Guy
What demographic even votes in these
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Has nobody told the writers that the arc of suspense should be at its peak during the finale?
Instead it peaked with episode 8.
9 is literally just bad Jax fan fiction shit.
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>>153978653
Zooble is deserved for being such a non-character
Imagine being so shit that not even yuribaiting saves your ass
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Jax and Zooble having passionate and degrading hate-sex.
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>>153978746
Kovach didn't want to fuck her, that's why she fucked 100+ other men during their relationship and he cheated on her by talking to a friend about his relationship
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>>153978756
Disappearing guys voted.
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>>153978762
Aren't all the non-Jax and non-Pomni characters in the exact same tier?
They never got a real chance to shine because their arcs got constantly teased but never concluded.
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Just watched the finale

holy fuck this series is insanely underwhelming in hindsight, so many setups, very little are actually resolved satisfyingly.
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what if instead of just pomni it was everyone diving into jax and hugging him? i genuinely think this would've saved him
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>>153978750
The thing is, she would mean it, she did notice how upset Jax had gotten with the maid outfit
Now imagine her talking it out like she did with Gangle
Seeing that side of Zooble would unironically break Jax in a good way
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>>153978657
Boy, do I know that feeling.
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Pomni is a white woman.
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we needed more cute zoob moments so missed chance
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>>153978009
>ywnbahuman
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The show took a weird route at the end...
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>>153978748
You sound broken, are you okay?
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>>153978702
He had scenes with the others too. Each shot was only a second long.
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Recycle!
>>153977065
>>153977065
>>153977065
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Shouldn't have messed with my playground.
Oh well, there's more places to pull scorched earth upon.
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>>153978805
I'm fine and dandy, just affirming your totally sane understanding of the world
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>>153978819
Oh, just butthurt you got no rebuttal gotcha
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>>153978708
>she'll peg him wearing the president suit and he can wear the maid suit
I have a fanart saved of exactly this and I can't FUCKING find it (not pegging, just someone catching them making out in the oval office in those outfits)
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>>153978749
>Jax, you can unabstract if you blow me
>w-what, Kinger?
>yes, i can unabstract you, but only if you blow me
>oh god, it's huge
>do it, swallow everything, and i'll restore you
>wait, you can do that
>yes, but the others won't do it, even my wife said it's too big, it would hurt, she's not swallowing a liter of my cum. yes, a liter. you can lick it off the floor if you spill it
>but i'm.. .not gay...
>you are Jax, but you're gay for Pomni, do you love her enough to suck my dick? she'll never know, but as you lay there at night, her giant head nuzzled up to you, you'll remember my cock, the sensation of thick, salty semen blasting your throat. you'll ejaculate when I do, that's how sex works here, couples always ejaculate together.
>i... i...
Pomni wakes up to a rather worse for wear Jax sitting at the end of her bed
JAX!
the leaps into his arms
I'm so glad you're back! but... you smell awful, what happened?
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>>153978708
Of course I find it the second I complain
It was in a funnybunny subfolder called domni
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>>153978702
>Jax interacts with Gangle way more in ep 4 than he did with Pomni
>montage chooses the scene where he asks Pomni how she's doing
It was his bond with Pomni.
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>>153978791
Yeah, a real, honest apology, Zooble realizing she has a lot in common with Jax and that he needs to be pushed
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>>153978828
yep everything you see is real and I'm just a blind sheep
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>>153978840
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>>153978700
I mean yeah, it's better to try and change when you feel bad about your actions then double down and believe you cant.
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>>153978847
his bond with Pomni wasnt even that good
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>>153978707
Memoryhold like Ragatha, Ribbit and Kafumo apparently.
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>>153978653
official ranking
1. Caine
2. Ragatha
3. Pomni
4. Zooble
5. Gangle
6. Bubble
7. Gummigoo
8. Princess Loolilalu
9. Ghostly
10. Orbsman
11. Ming
12. Disappearing Guy
13. Adam
14. Sun
15. The Fudge
16. Gloink Queen
17. Dr. Football
18. Kaufmo
19. Ribbit
20. Queenie
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>>153978879
You really think Gangle literally raped Jax and Caine sabotaged the adventure he was excited and proud of in episode 4?
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>>153978911
Ragatha hates his ass
Ribbit is dead
Kaufmo was a convenience for Jax and treated him like shit
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>>153978924
who the fuck is Adam
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In a sane world, a piece of shit who even murdered his own mother would not get sympathy. He would be viewed as a villain, not coddled.
But we're living in this retarded world where I'm supposed to feel bad for monsters.
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>>153978601
Cool, no one was asking you to
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>>153979006
He didn't murder his mother, you fucking retard
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>>153979017
violently pushed her (as strong as he could by his own words), didn't get back up, he just ran away without helping. Murder in my book. I don't give a shit what bleeding heart justifications people make. A person like that should just be ended.
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>>153979027
average jax hater
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>>153979027
Double retard
Leroy wasn't jailed, murder earns proper jail time that isn't just a few years, investigation does happen to find who did what
And besides the point, his mom was abusive and it's the reason he had ended up pushing her

Now stop being a vindictive baby about a character you dislike and making up more shit to be upset for him
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>>153978579
>>153978610
This scene is what made me refund my ticket.
The worst crime a piece of media can commit is saying "Isn't this terrible? Haha keep watching anyway"
Fuck you. Embrace what you made and stop being a faggot.
Insecure ass tranny.
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>>153979027
Because Jax's intent wasn't to kill her, and because she didn't die, the absolute worst conviction he could get is attempted manslaughter and most prosecutors wouldn't waste their time pursuing that.
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>>153979091
>>153979073
>murder earns proper jail time
omg in our fucked up system barely anything counts as murder. all somebody needs to do is say "I didn't wanna do that!" or "I was acting in the heat of the moment" or "I had a few too many drinks" and BAM automatically not considered murder.
I don't give a shit about this broken shitty justice system. People like Jax just need to be ended for their own good and those around them. They're human vermin.
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>>153979113
thanks for proving the point I was making here >>153979140
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>>153978301
Anon single handedly caused a worldwide shortage of straw with the amount he used up making this strawman argument.
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I doubt Jax's mom even pressed charges.
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Episode 9 starts:
I think "oh I hope this won't be just a Jax episode.
He instantly abstracts.
Me: "Oh thank god!" Now we'll get to see the rest of the cast cooperate to stop that, right?
*rest of this shitty episode happens*
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8 and i marry ragatha
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>>153979172
>tranny creator
>kills off the best character out of spite
>90% of the series is just crying about trauma
Man, it really does feel good to be proven this right. I thought " hey this series could be good, maybe something written by a troon isn't all bad???"
But nope, my first instinct is always validated with these people.
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>>153979160
just another example of nobody ever facing proper consequences for their actions.
I could go out right now and rape a child and then cry about it and get sympathy from psychologists, a warm meal, a comfy shelter and medical care. this world is sick.
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>>153979140
Ah yeah, because Leeroy had a completely sound mind when he was homeless to make up excuses in case he did get convicted, as shown by Jax freaking out about consequences of his actions within the Circus
Again, stop being a vindictive baby
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>>153979203
Episode 1-8 were a good show.
Episode 9 shouldn't fucking exist.
The vast majority of people watched this for two main reasons:
1. The humor
2. The mystery of what's really going on.
As much as the creators kept whining about "stop paying attention to details!" and "stop theory crafting" that stuff was one of the pillars of the entire show.
With Episode 8 we get the climax, learn what really happened and the fun all ends with Caine's death.
There's nothing in Episode 9 that's remotely enjoyable.
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Anon has some demons to fight over and is bringing it to TADC instead lmao
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>>153979214
Only if you're trans. Why do you think they keep trying to break into children's media.
I'm not even a christfag but I can see the writing on the wall: stop these people.
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>>153979249
...Just like Jax!
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>>153979217
>if somebody is an insane psycho, it somehow excuses his actions
no it doesn't nothing excuses what you do. you ARE what you do. teaching children anything else; teaching them that "herp derp everything is ok as long as you cry hard enough afterwards" is turning people into absolute trash.
People should have 1 chance in life. Fuck up, then you're a fuck up. Simple.
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>>153979240
It's because trannies are miserable people and hate their life and want you to hate yours too
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>>153979253
>concernbaiting when you were having a meltdown with conspiracy theories earlier
Dude, just stop.
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>>153979278
Wrong anon buddy, I think the moon is real. But there's no concern baiting here: trannies are legitimately fucked in the head and shouldn't be allowed anywhere near children
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>>153979253
no it's literally everybody. so many in the government included the fucking president were revealed to be pedophile rodents and instead of chopping their heads off people care more about gas prices.
I watch true crime and 99% of the time it's the same story: some insane piece of shit does some insane cruel shit. then he says he's sorry and gets coddled.
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>>153979274
>insane psycho
Damn, true, it was such a crazy reveal that Jax used to torture his family pets to make up for his bitch of a mom being abusive towards him with no proper paternal figure to base it off on such a shitty household.
I didn't think Gooseworx would've had the guts to show that in the big telly at all.
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>>153979214
>>153979253
>fetishpost with a little cope on the side
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imo the biggest mistake from a writing perspective is that it's never properly explained why the other characters care so freaking much about Jax.
if these were real people in a real situation, most would go "that's a shame" and then forget about the giant asshole.
But instead we have Pomni, Ribbit and Ragatha who are all OBSESSED with that dude for no reason. There was never anything that showed WHY they risk so much for him. Why did nobody do for Kaufmo what Pomni did for Jax? Why didn't they constantly talk about Kaufmo and that they should've helped him more if these are such empathetic people?
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>>153979339
I don't gotta cope when I keep voting for people that make trans people neck themselves. It's delicious how much they seethe.
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>>153979357
Gangle was art buddies with Kaufmo supposedly
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>>153979371
>muh literal factual dactual pedophile president

lol, lmao. into the dustbin with (You)
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>>153979371
omg can you stfu about trans people for one second?
I just wanna live my life and I never met a single trans person but everywhere I got there are people like you who go "TRANNIES TRANNIES" 24/7
I cannot even talk about how criminals should get the rope with you leeching onto my comments like some parasite "OH YEAH BUT ESPECIALLY THE TRANNIES RIGH!?"
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>>153979391
The 41% keeps getting higher :)
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That was a really short truce, you two almost had something going on over shitting over Jax
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>>153979357
It could be partially explained by the fact that there are only 6 or 7 people in their entire universe
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>>153979401
>t. has never lived near a city and have to deal with the unhinged smelly men in dresses
I envy you.
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>>153979410
in universe, ok. but from an audience perspective that doesn't make it better.
In order for me to get invested into a story, I need to sympathize with the characters.
I simply cannot see myself as Pomni running after that cunt instead of focussing on building a better future with the others.
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>>153979420
>LISTEN TO ME TALK MORE ABOUT 0.5% OF THE POPULATION! IT'S THE ONLY TOPIC I CAN EVER TALK ABOUT
ok. please talk with somebody else now and stop responding to my comments with your obsessive blabber, ok?
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>>153978616
You stop talking to them and never open that door again. thats the only thing you can do unless you're qualified to treat these kind of people.
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>hmm should we write a compelling story for the final episode?
>nah lets just show characters crying for 1 hour
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>>153979464
Nah :]
You'd only get this upset if you were a tranny. Tranny.
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>>153979535
trans derangement syndrome
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>>153979568
What a complicated way to say I hate them for very good reasons
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>>153979628
then get a gun, go out there and do what you gotta do instead of annoying the rest of us with your constant whining.
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>>153979357
Jax isn't Hitler. He's annoying.

Jax is also not responsible for their situation, he's in that situation as well.



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