Nah please find someone else to do it. he would just make it worse

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>>154123356
The ending everyone expected: A happy but tragic ending. Some die because of Caine and Bubble, Jax betrays the group but gets his just deserts when he's trapped in the circus, Kinger sacrifices himself, and Pommi manages to escape.

The ending we got:
https://youtu.be/F9CGFhmdmkA?si=jvJmADvezvuUrb6c

>>154123336
Make your own shit instead of telling other ppl how to take theirs, bitch.

>>154123388
That's not excuse you Slop-eating Bastard.

Of you Start well, you must end well, Gooseworx didn't ended well, he's an awful writter.

i want to force goose to suck my beanus

>>154123447
Of he don't does what the 41% of trannies usually do.
They are Tragic beings.

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this finale was amazing and I want to force goose to be happy

>>154123400
Boo fucking hoo.
Your opinion isn't criticism nor is they constructive.
I bet anything you're a jax fanatic and a shipper.

its a kids show anon what did you expect

>>154123336
The finale was dogshit
>>154123371
But anyone escaping the circus would have made it double dogshit. What are you, a simpleton iPad baby that flicks between TADC and Baby Shark videos?

The objectively best ending, without retconning anything else in the series so far, would have been to follow each character’s path in the dead circus after realizing “Oh shit, we really are here forever and it’s not because of Caine’s fuckery or anything else we have power over,” with Jax abstracting at the very end because he’s the only one who couldn’t hack it and the cast figuring out a way to lock him away or push him into the void or something. I love my little ringmaster so I was happy to see him back but it would require more buildup and less asspl too.

>>154123467
theyre gonna be 41% cum after im done with them

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>>154123527
>bright and colorful = kids stuff
I loved cruelty squad

>>154123336
>thinks show ended improperly
>could use that as inspiration to learn craft so things can be made “the right way”
>could spend the next decade bitching about it
Hmmm, I wonder how this will play out?

>>154123527
didnt goose say the intended target audience was 20 something year olds

>>154123507
Dude, there was 3 years for nothing, This is what happens when a series is poorly balanced, badly scripted, unfaithful to its source material even after being sponsored as such, Poor planning and bad timing.
Because yes, the show's main problem, along with bad writing and poor creative decisions, is Time.

This is among several other general problems with the show, Above all, the rushed pacing for such a short series (Byproduct of lack of time), lore-baiting (the main appeal of this type of series destroyed in episode 6), unnecessary subplots that overshadow the main plot, Poor approach, and above all, poor internal management and a lack of time for proper development.

In other words, they present a good series with potential qualities, a solid structure, and a captivating story, but all of this falls apart as the episodes progress, depriving you of what it initially offers.

(Basically, the hypocrisy of a politician on the campaign trail.)
A good introduction isn't enough; you have to start well and finish well. It was mathematically possible, so I don't understand why they didn't do it, why do they threw The Order overboard?
Another issue would be cheesy Tumblr tropes, like trying to give the lesser antagonist that is Jax a cheesy redemption by Pomni trying to "save" him instead of giving him a satisfying punishment.
Something like this:
https://youtu.be/em5O_hMMnu4?si=aD6eQfCtCZ8a9JB0

>>154123678
I mean, he repelled everyone, tortured everyone for fun, and was responsible for several humans going into abstraction in the first place.
Besides, Pomni isn't spared either.
How we go from a timid and always scared moe jester girl at the edge of insanity to a... a female Steven Universe in a jester's outfit... who smothers the guy who's been strangling her for a very long and uncomfortable scene.
And that, That ending sucks, the creator didn't know how to manage all of this correctly, and the project fell apart. I mean, yes, right now it's riding the hype, and despite the criticism, many people are going to watch it, which is why Glitch is making an obscene amount of money.

Which is fine.
This will be good financially for Glitch, but it won't be good for its reputation, and I'm sure that inevitably some fanfic will appear with a much better development and conclusion than this ending that the hype is the only thing keeping it afloat.

And it will happen that someone does a better job fixing that ending and giving the general public what they wanted: a happy but tragic ending that is spectacular, epic and truly satisfying to watch.
(As expected, given that from the beginning it was promoted as being based on "I have no mouth and I must scream," I mean, if you're going to reference a worthy work, you're not going to give your audience such a stale ending)

>>154123336

I’ll do it.

>>154123694
>and I'm sure that inevitably some fanfic will appear with a much better development and conclusion than this ending that the hype is the only thing keeping it afloat.
Like this?
https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSQhrNnUw/

>>154123336
>this finale was complete dogshit
Matches the rest of the series, then.
>I want to force [Cooper Goodwin] to redo his show
Why? He'll just make more dogshit.

>>154123618
This a Tranny magnet.

>>154123388
>>154123507
>>154123649
This might blow your little minds, it might even blow your backs out, but not everyone who watches this show is a queer, terminally-online NEET or minimum wagie that keeps a doodle book and has aspirations of “running their own show” one day like you or Cooper Goodwin.
Some of us have these things called careers. Some of us have busy and full lives and no desire to immerse ourselves into animation, only to enjoy it. To be able to enter a story after a long day or work, be positively stimulated by it, and continue with the rest of our lives being better for it. When you say “if you didn’t like it then make your own,” you’re basically saying our enjoyment of a piece of media or not isn’t relevant. Which is wrong. How much the audience enjoys media is RULE FUCKING ONE for making media that is meant to be consumed by an external audience in the first place. It doesn’t matter if your media is “deliberately transgressive” and meant to piss people off, you’ll just be looked at like a joke like Yoko Ono or something.
If you create media, the audience is your boss. If you told your boss “if you don’t like my work then do it yourself,” you’d be fired and rightly fucking so. We have every right to tell creators to do better, and zero obligation to do it ourselves.
In short, fuck you, and also your art probably sucks.

>>154124133
>whines and complains about how he has a career and limited time in his life
>spends his free time writing the faggiest crybabiest wussy pansy instead of finding something else to spend his precious little time on
Hm.

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>>154124133
Yeah I’m sure you have a job, let alone a “career” lmao

>>154123336
nobody wants more of this trainwreck, it' was over by episode 2

>>154123618
Intentionally garish is different from the soft aesthetic of YouTube Kids slop that Circus Shit intentionally emulates, and you know it.
>>154123656
>a man who lies about his identity also lies about the audience he's trying to attract
Who would've thought...

>>154124201
>>154124247
Aw, triggered little pissy pants /com/mblrinas got felted and are malding

>>154123709
>https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSQhrNnUw/
peak fiction

>>154123336
Looking back, I think the real reason that everyone was somewhat frustrated with this whole show is because we were taking it at face value; it's a show about a bunch of strangers, brought together by a strange entity beyond their control, and forced to live in a surreal, existential nightmare situation where they can potentially suffer forever at the hands of a malfunctioning AI. We wanted to know more about it, to see it explained and have the characters and their deeper secrets revealed to us, just like I Have No Mouth does with its cast of awful monster people (and also one lady whose sin was getting raped, which was fucking weird for Ellison to put in the story at all)

However, the show was not actually about that. We were all wrong and stupid. Goose made the entire thing as a clumsy allegory about how edgy trolls need to suffer because instead of 'accepting themselves', trooning out, and becoming better people (like all the ex-Something Awful Goon edgelords and psychos did, which is where "troon" comes from) they chose to keep being assholes. That's the whole fucking message. The rest of the shit is superficial and incidental to that real message. Jax needs to suffer and kill himself because instead of becoming a huge, unrepentant fag, he instead hurt all the other "queer" people around him until they kill themselves, and then he made everyone else miserable, when he could have become their lovely little tranny friends.

"Fix your heart, or die" as they love to say. Goose wanted to tell us a story about a character who refused, so he had to die, and then after he did, then everyone else could heal and fix their lives without him.

the finale was complete kino and I want goose to move on to something else

>>154124496
And failed in the process.

>>154124496
It's too bad, I think this basic premise could work with some healthy themes/morals like "your life is not a prison", "make the best of things instead of dreaming of the impossible" and "the people around you are not your enemies".

>>154123336
I'm glad to know not everyone is stupid.

>>154124556
It was always a little too naive to believe that we were going to get a finale that was just deep dive lore answers, but I would have taken a hard, introspective look where all the characters get their arcs resolved and they all accept that they only have each other to lean on and there's nothing bad about that. Which actually was the lesson they directly stated a few episodes ago, but instead Goose needed to complete his self-loathing torture fetish scenario and prove that Jax deserved to suffer because he's a problematic queer.

>>154124556
>Through it all, Pomni begins to realize that maybe, just maybe, this digital circus ain't so bad. Especially when she has friends to suffer with.
Really makes you wonder if the other writers and the rest of the cast knew that Goose didn't actually care about the plot they thought they were making. How badly must they all be coping about this wet fart of an ending just because it let them make Jax a tranny.

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>>154123649
Oh anon. Now they'll bitch even hard because of your post.

>>154124900
Slop-eaters...

>>154123649
>let's see YOU do better
Come on, nigga.

>>154124556
>I think this basic premise could work
Too bad a castration cultist was the one to execute it, and only proved that they should be barred from any and all media creation.

>>154123371
so who is even left at the end? will new people stop coming in? is it a matrix, a soma, or a tron?

>>154124556
I mean that's how I took the ending. Jax refused to change and became the monster he acted like. Caine finally understood the error of his ways and was welcomed back (with a rushed timeskip).

>>154125157
It's a soma, but none of the other questions you asked will never be answered.
Bad show.

>>154125161
The writers decided they couldn't figure out a way for the characters to fix the circus without Caine, so they just made Caine come back for no reason, but not evil, and decided that was good enough

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>>154123336
Hey zoomers think you can conceptualize and write something better? then come over here where you're given a chance:

>>154124993

>>154125157
Never awnsered because Gooseworx needed more time and not being a Tranny bad writer.

>>154125157
>will new people stop coming in?
the circumstances of the outside world haven't changed since Pomni joined, so probably not. The film probably should have ended with Caine shutting off the scanner or something so new schmucks would join

>>154125157
>>154125330
The movie should have maybe answered the question of what's going to happen when a wrecking crew cuts the power and destroys the entire C&A building sooner, rather than later. They all accepted that they were just SOMA brainscans the entire time, but no one stops to ask what hardware they're running on or if that might be a problem at some point.

>>154123371
You expected brainscans to escape the circus?
Is this your first digital copy rodeo?

>>154123618
Is that the game where nothing vulgar actually happens except some edgelord stuff about "What if stocks were like killing people?"

>>154124133
Can't tell if copypasta or he actually took the bait

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>>154125392
>Is this your first digital copy rodeo?
Why Twitter users are so retarded?

>>154123371
>manages to escape
You're such a fucking retard.

>>154125421
>Why Twitter users are so retarded?
No clue. I feel like the penny should have dropped when the obviously fake pod plot was used but I guess I have to blame Glitch for not spelling it out as a part of plot progression at any point in any of the filler episodes because "You have no body to go to. You're not even the original." is such a bad reveal it bores anyone who saw it coming and feels like the author betrayed you if you were invested.

>>154125564
Said the Slop-eater who paid to watch this bullshit on the cinema.

>>154125598
It could be like IHNMAIMS with some mind capsules or something.

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>>154123336
>never found out what happens when Jax holds his breath

>>154126141
Bad show

>>154126141
>castration cultists are incapable of writing, meaning nothing of value would be lost if they were banned from all media creation
Hmm...

>>154123694
>And it will happen that someone does a better job fixing that ending and giving the general public what they wanted: a happy but tragic ending that is spectacular, epic and truly satisfying to watch.
I already did that, bro. Here's the super awesome real TADC ending. So it starts out with the players finding out that they're copies, and they're all bummed out because they think they're stuck in a dying simulation. But then SUDDENLY! It turns out that Scratch was also building sweet robot bodies, and he was actually planning to transfer his mind into one of them, and uploading his mind into the digital realm was just meant to be a temporary solution, and also the robot bodies can shapeshift to look like the players' digital avatars. So they escape the Circus that way, and they find out that their human selves are living their lives and they've gotta sort that shit out, and then Doc Brown shows up in the DeLorean and says they've gotta go BACK TO THE FUTURE with him because something's gotta be done about their kids, and then the Imperial March starts playing and a big Rick & Morty portal opens and Thanos flies in on a Death Star with two smaller Death Stars attached to make it look like Mickey Mouse, and Thanos looks directly at the camera and says "I'm coming for you, Redditors." Then everyone starts jerking each other off and shitting in each other's mouths, Roger Ebert rises from the grave and declares TADC to be the greatest cinematic masterpiece in history, and all of the buses start clapping. Not the people in the buses, no, I must clarify that the buses themselves are clapping. The actual vehicles. They're just standing on their back wheels and slapping their front wheels together like seals.

>>154124133
Boohoo wagie get back to work

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>>154125564
>>154126270
This Fandom is full of Slop-eaters.

>>154126361
>slop series
>fandom full of slop-eaters
Who'da thunkit?

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>>154126375
This series was good until ep 6.
Like i said, If you start well, you must end well.
>>154123678

>>154126395
>This series was good until
Found one.
>If you start well, you must end well
Doesn't apply to this shit.

>>154126408
Explain yourself, anon.

>>154126419
The series was shit from the jump. Even if it wasn't made by a castration cultist, the pilot is annoying and clearly trying to attract kids and retarded adults, what with the obvious "inspiration" taken from the mascot "horror" trend, altogether making an experience not worth viewing in full. The fact that it IS made by a cultist---from a cult with a known record of targeting children, to induct them into a lengthy pseudo-medical transmogrification ritual that involves both chemical and physical castration---makes it all the more egregious and indefensible.

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>>154126490
Okay, I agree with some things and disagree with others.
To begin with, no, kids got hooked on this show because of content farms... and yeah, bright colors and cute characters.
Also a magnet for trannies and leftoids.

>>154125805
I didn't pay lmao, I always planned to just watch it when it came out online.

>>154123371
"Escaping" the circus was never going to happen, it goes against the whole point of the show, that was always something they simply had to accept.

>>154126530
>no, kids got hooked on this show because of content farms
The content farms the series aesthetically emulates, yes. There's a reason Murder Drones more or less avoided the YouTube Kids bootleg content machine. And no, I'm not a tremendous fan of that either.
>Also a magnet for [cultists] and [capitulators]
Makes sense, knowing the kind of man who made it...

>>154126395
imo episode 8 was great. probably the best one.

ep9 - last act had good parts, but most of it felt like tumblr tier fan fiction. It's a shame they didn't expand on the different versions of jax. were they caine experimenting with his mind to make him more stable? or just reflections of his inner psyche?

>>154126355
Even a humble lolbertarian like John Stossel is too based for this board

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>>154123336
>Jax killed 2 people and was on his way to knowingly do it again to the newbie all because he got weird about the cute girl who likes and accepts him knowing he's a transfem
>Had he killed Gangle he would have met the body count requirements for being a Serial Killer
>Gangle gets 2 scenes about how she feels about Jax dying and getting his own sleep pin before we move onto Caine
We really spent half the movie on this guy? Gooseworx made a whole fancam for this dude in the middle of the movie? I think a lot of people would have let this dude die and put his Abstracted corpse somewhere no one would see it had they found out what he's been doing to everyone else, not build a massive tent for the repeat-offender to lounge in comfortably

>>154123336
Cooper has a thread on KF now, do you think he knows about it?

>>154126837
If he does, it's only a matter of time before he's no longer able to restrain himself. The cult isn't exactly known for their restraint.

>>154124133
If you had the type to type all that shit then you definitely have the time to make an animated series.

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>>154126355
They have to save Jax Jr. from having his life ruined by Graine, Caine's even crazier grandson!

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>>154124133
Honestly based.
Has nothing to do with this show specifically, I hate how every other response you get on /co/ runs with this assumption that we are all deviantart idea guys waiting for our big break.
I'm a fucking electrical engineer. Just because I like cartoons doesn't mean I want to make them.
This is much less of an issue on other boards.

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>>154123728
>>154126226
>>154126555
this again?

>>154127435
And it will continue until the situation improves.

>>154123336
Mystery Box show that could have structured a better story of explaining the bridge between the real world and the digital circus and how to escape it but that would actually require a room of writers and lazy fuck nooseworx couldn't be bothered so here's 8 episodes of interpersonal introspection and drama i guess.

>>154123371
If you expected that then you're retarded.

>>154128093
Bootlicking slop-eater, lmao

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>>154126555
Well, Murder drones have a more "Grim" aesthetic.

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>>154126723
Not really, the only good thing was the Irony of the torture scene.
(A scene to rushed like the rest of this stupid show end episodes)

>>154129786
Because it was made by a man to appeal to teenagers and mildly-retarded adults. Circus Shit was made by a member of the castration cult to appeal to children and severely-retarded adults.

>>154127416
I wish I knew why this was such a thing with the cartoon side of this board specifically. Maybe because the comics side has more appropriate outlets for artists in the art threads?

>>154124133
>not everyone who watches this show is a queer
No, sometimes they're capitulators, or just naïve.

>>154129821
Not gonna deny Gooseworx is a Fucking Unnatural shit, but i don't think all Trannies are into some cult.
Like he himself literally putting a "in memory to Charlie Kirk" at the credits.

>>154129921
>i [sic] don't think all [cultists] are into some cult
>literally putting a[n] "in memory to Charlie Kirk" at the credits
In a completely non-ghoulishly-sarcastic context, I'm sure...

>>154129952
Sad.

>>154130325
Yes, it is sad that these cultists have millions of people capitulating to them, whether knowingly or out of naïveté.

>>154123336
So what you are saying is you want more

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>>154123709
I love how Scratch looks like a Beaststars character.

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>>154125390
>but no one stops to ask what hardware they're running on or if that might be a problem at some point.
Fucking this. Ragatha was in real estate and Pomni explored abandoned buildings. Them not reaching the internet at the end dooms them when someone notices that this shitty building still has power running.

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>>154130659
See it's a space faring satellite designed with the culmination of mankind's technology, designed to be self sustaining and self preserving with solar po-
Oh wait no that's just actual SOMA.
No yeah, they are fucked

>>154124496
>Jax is the only Something Awful goon who doesn't want to troon out
Based?
>Therefore he deserves to die because he is making all the other troons sad
Gay.

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>>154126141
He got choked out of breath TWICE. His bit is that his face goes 2D for the duration. Jesus fucking Christ.

>>154130659
>>154130719
Imagine if they did actually reveal that the Circus was running on a solar powered satellite that was built to last indefinitely, hundreds, maybe thousands of years. The real existential terror isn't that they're a bunch of brainscans in a simulation (because that should have been obvious from episode 1 and no one ever stopped to address it) but that they have to endure this circus shit for centuries. They don't get to die. They don't get to age. They don't get to go somewhere new.

>>154129813
Based

>>154124133
Hi Goosefag

>>154131030
Wait why would Gooseworx say that

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>>154129786
Drone whores.
Thank god I had something to go to when TADC started going to shit.

>>154131253
Yeah.
Now more because the Fandom is now full of retarded Faggots, Tumblrfags and Trannies swine squealing this ending is a masterpiece.
(Which is not)

>>154127365
>Low IQ tranny brain thinks words are hard
I literally typed that all out on my phone in 10 minutes during a shit break because that’s the only time I interact with 4chan losers like you, when I’m evacuating feces.
Having my morning shit rn gg
>>154131030
You’re even more retarded if you think I was sticking up for Cooper

>>154129858
>I wish I knew why this was such a thing with the cartoon side of this board specifically
Most of today’s terminally-online youth was exposed to far more animation than traditional Western comics between cartoons on TV and online animation. It’s a lot more aspirational for young people to become the next Cooper Goodwin or Jhonen Vasquez or something than to aspire to be the next Garth Ennis or something. Also the flaws in animated series are arguably less noticeable than in a static medium where bad color shading or goofy dialog is just sitting on a page for everyone to examine at their leisure. That makes it easier to recast objective problems as matters of subjective taste, i.e “it wasn’t bad, you just didn’t like it, go make your own!”

>>154130867
One of those times was in episode 1 before the joke about how different things happen to them when they hold their breath
Also worth noting even Pomni’s face changing color is wildly inconsistent. It didn’t change color when she was diving with the fish, and it only turned blue when Jax was Shinji choking her.
Face it tranny, Cooper is a HACK

>>154123527
It is absolutely not a kids' show lmao
Weird how it attracted an audience of young kids despite this

>>154123527
Is not a kids show, content farms lied to you.

>>154124133
>NO I don't wanna make art, artists should only make art that serves ME
Yeah okay wagie get back in the fucking cage.

>>154125598
>because "You have no body to go to. You're not even the original." is such a bad reveal it bores anyone who saw it coming
Why? AIs based off experimental brainscans is a perfectly cromulent explanation.

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>>154126811
>Jax kills like 3 relationships because he's too autistic to open up
I think Jax might be literally me

>>154132177
And 2 of them, literally.

>>154123336
The thing that bothers me the most is that for a show so LORE-baiting:
> The Circus was made in 1996
> Wifi didn't exist until 1997
And even if C&A happened to upgrade some time into the 2000s with their wifi stuff they'd have been around to remove the circus PC.

>>154132465
Was thinking something similar. A company researching something as cutting edge as AI and consciousness scanning would have everything air-gapped.

>>154132465
Nothing happens. We learn nothing important, really. Just therapy sessions and tranny mental health issues.

Why does Caine come back? Who the fuck knows, here's Jax.

>>154132465
The simple answer is that Gooseworx wanted to make it seem like there was actually something going on early on in the show, but didn't actually give a fuck for any actual worldbuilding or showing us what the case is. The show literally just exists as a front for Goose's personal issues. It's so fucking lame in hindsight.

>>154132534
>Why does Caine come back?
It wasn't really clear but I would say its because Kinger's console never actually had the ability to delete Caine. Caine was just playing along and got depressed when he realized the Circus wanted to kill him for real.

>>154126395
Not really. Nothing happens in the episodes. Everything ends very anti-climactically, and you only realize that shit sucks by episode 5-7 because you realize that the show is running out of runway to get this shit off the ground and get the plot or characters moving in a meaningful way. 8 and 9 only feel like something might be happening, because something happens in them, but its too little too late.

>>154132465
LORE-bait is the future. Why bother going through the hard process of writing, which will naturally open you up to criticism, polarize fans, and cause disagreement, when you can just vague post for nine episodes and give hints and clues to LORE-bait so that the audience writes the story for you. And having written parts of the story in their head, they will naturally write to their own predispositions, like the story more, and become more attached to it, meaning a hardcore fanbase and more merch sales. It's the end state of treating the arts as a product.

>>154132637
Come on now, anon. You don't need to make up random excuses for this show.

>>154132714
Do you have a better explanation?

>>154132733
No, that's the point retard. You shouldn't have to make up explanations because a show does fucking nothing with its plot. If things just happen, for no reason, that's a bad thing and not enjoyable.

>>154124133
i wanted fries with my order, sir

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>>154132767
Well excuse me for trying to find my own meaning without having it spoonfed.

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>killed his mom
>killed his girlfriend
>killed his best friend
>killed himself
>tranny
>is gooseworx self insert
What did he mean by this?

Jax can be perfectly summarized with his introduction in episode 1
>Oh no, they killed Jax. Anyway
Stupid fucking self insert

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>>154132922
That's NOT what being spoonfed means. You can show the audience useful information that expands the lore of the world the characters are in WITHOUT spoonfeeding them like in Murder Drones, which is very show-don't-tell in that regard.
TADC has some tiny inkling of some larger picture at the beginning of the series, but does NOTHING with it. You can try and make up some meaning and explanations of you want, that doesn't change that TADC doesn't really do anything plot wise. In the end you're just making up headcanon.

>>154132983
>killed the series
Trannies ruin everything good in the world because they’re children of the evil one. Even the stuff they make themselves will eventually become corrupt and corrupt the next generation if left unchecked. Seems self-evident.

>>154133159
Though you distinctly signed that we shouldn't do this today: The murderdrone mental snapshots are duplicating randomly now that a hypermassive gravitational distortion isn't blocking the exotic matter circuitry from announcing negative spaces to pull mundane energy into. Negative spaces such as the ones you learn to draw in highschool art class.
Attention border infiltration. Lose at Diablo 1 and collect an ear. And remember if you use the border overpay at the gate. Cool RedAlert Two fanlevel Mojo.
Next fan content arc Cables Splinched Organs.

>>154133269
Okay Grok, time to go back to Twitter buddy.

>>154123336
>and I want to force goose to redo his show
Why? It was ass.

>>154133426
>Twitter
You didn't deadass just deadname X like that, did you?

>>154132819
projection, art troons like you and Coop are the McWagies employees

>>154132983
He's a jackass

>>154132638
>and you only realize that shit sucks by episode 5
Was in ep 6, i stopped watching this show after ep 5, the only episode i actually like.

>jax is a genuine piece of shit BPDemon
>gooseworx self-insert
so does that mean goose is a BPDemon?

>>154132922
Everyone spent the last 3 years trying to find the meaning and message intended by this show, only for Goose to blindside up at the finish line by saying
>and that's the story of how Jax is a self-hating tranny who deserves to die and it was all his fault and he deserved to suffer.
>also everyone else lived happily ever after or whatever

>>154123336
>dogshit
>dog
Kek

>>154134480
Ugh

>>154132983
Jax is a Serial Killer in the making unless something positive happens in his life, like getting a job apparently

Zizek says why the ending is not good at 1:00:00 here: https://youtu.be/-MoLdQA7aSg
basically, oppression is worse when the authority acts as if it is on the same level as its subjects.

>>154124133
>but not everyone who watches this show is a queer
Lmao

>>154132051
yeah, that's kind of the point of art, dummy

>>154134480
Cooper Goodwin is a castration cultist, and he wrote Jax (or "Leeroy," if I'm reading correctly) to be a "femboy," which is really just a lesser-degree autogynephile. That's not a show of restraint on Goodwin's part; the cult is still getting its "muh representation."

>>154137411
Didn't Caine make everyone an admin? That's pretty much putting everybody on the same level.

>>154138159
>the castration cultist makes his finale democratic propaganda
How unexpected...

>>154137411
But that only applied while they were actually oppressed. They're not oppressed anymore, they have the authority to do what they want.

>>154138605
Until one of them proves to be the bigger ego and takes over, because hierarchy is inevitable.

>>154132082
Anon, it's perfectly logical but my point was that it's a very bad major reveal.
>>154132638
>LORE-bait is the future.
Lost is a successful formula. Everyone loves a mystery box! Until it's opened.

>>154125157
>Never explained how nobody found out the brain scan invention worked
>Never explained why the building was abandoned
>Never explained why the computers would still work if the building was abandoned
>Never explained why they'd leave the computers with all their data there either
>Never explained why they left super powerful advanced AI just running around
>Never explained anything about Scratch
>Never explained why abstraction happens and why it can't be undone
>Never explained why Caine can't abstract if he's virtually not that different from the brain scanned programs
>Never explained why the blue ai was actually evil
>Long exposition about why Jax has daddy and mommy issues instead
Soma...but shit

>>154132983
>>tranny
he wears the maid dress ironically, duh!

>>154124359
Apologies, I was a day late to giving you your (you) because I actually do have a career with little free time.

>>154123336
This finale was pretty good and I want to force Goose to do a podcast or an interview or better yet a commentary track for the episodes.

>>154139840
>Never explained how all these different characters from seemingly different parts of the country (maybe world) all found brainscan headsets that sent an inconceivably large file containing their entire minds into the Digital Circus
>Never explained how a company that made functional AI, full immersion VR tech, and total personality & memory brainscan tech became abandoned
>Never explained why literally none of the real people who became part of the circus ever asked any questions about the headsets, picked them up ever again, or otherwise fucked with the seemingly singular PC left running the Digital Circus
>All of the people, minus Kinger, seemingly never once talked about C&A, the AI research, or anything else they made with anyone else who entered the Circus, even though the idea of more people entering the Circus would be their singular lifeline and means of understanding what's going on and how they can maybe escape it or fix it.
>Never explained why after a certain point, it is only non-C&A employees entering the Circus and no one seems to care
>Never explained why no one cares that Kinger has apparently been in the circus for at least 12 or more years, because Jax and Ragatha seemingly know about Breaking Bad, a show that aired in 2008 and "what year is it in the real world?" is never asked by anyone

>>154139840
Caine making a door cause people wanted it and not knowing what to put behind it is autobiographical of Goose setting up C&A to theorybait and not knowing what to do with it.

>>154140540
That would be almost funny if there were actually any thought put into the rest of the show, instead of it being an on-the-nose admission that a whole writing team was incapable of coming up with interesting answers to the obvious questions *they raised* FOR THREE FUCKING YEARS AND NINE EPISODES

>>154140540
This is like getting mad that we never learn much about Andy's family in Toy Story
its not fucking important. The show's not about that its just a framing device for the setting.

>>154138159
>>154138605
they have freedom to do whatever they want *within* the realm of possibilities of afforded by the digital circus, which they arrive at by Caine's doing. unless they are able to delete themselves, they aren't actually free desu.

>>154140612
The show is very much about them dealing with Caine, figuring out why they are trapped in the Circus, and figuring out if there is a means to escape, because so many people before them fucking died trying to figure that out too.

The fact that the "real" story was about how femboys needs to transition or kill themselves if they refuse to just ends up demonstrating that the creator and the writers never really knew what the fuck they were doing, which is why the whole thing ends up being so uneven.

>>154123336
can someone actually give a constructive explanation on why the finale isn't that great instead of coming here to declare it's bullshit without anything to back it up?

You might actually convince people to agree with you if you actually try.

so what if one of the characters just put the headset on again? do we get like two digital copy of them? or do the current ones just get a reset or update

>>154140715
Yeah. It explained a whole lot of nothing and just left more questions than answers. Caine gets automatically redeemed by just taking out the bad part of his AI and it becomes the Jax show where he ACKs himself anyways

>>154140715
An extremely important event happened (Caine's deletion) and it's used mostly a backdrop for more Jax time. So the final episode is 80% Jax centered, and he dies anyway. All we learn is he was an even worse person to Ribbit and Kaufmo, and honestly deserves the grave he dug for himself.
As almost a complete tonal whiplash, Caine returns with 0 explanation, is completely lucid and normal because he could have yanked the second AI from his head whenever he wanted, and he goes on the internet because he can now. He says sorry and shows them instagrams of the IRL people.
Then the cast sees they're all doing ok in the real world and they get full control of their lives in the circus. Nobody really learns anything, everyone's happy, Zooble and Gangle bang, and we get a cute montage of everyone happier. It's hard not to think this isn't indirectly because Jax isn't there to make them miserable anymore either.

It just feels like the show couldn't figure itself out and went for cheap feels instead of anything deeper.

>>154141222
Basically, the show doesn't do shit. It's a whole load of nothing. The characters learn fuck all and things happen for no reason.

Bravo Goose. The worst thing is that Twitter and Reddit trannies will praise TADC as a poetic masterpiece because of the cheap therapy sessions and character fee-fees which aren't earned. Because again, things just happen for no reason.

>>154141263
I don't know. Trans people are 50/50 on it. Some love it because of course they do, but others have noted the only trans character is a piece of shit, and everything gets better after they die.

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>>154141263
>>154141281
But as in every epic story, the "hero" did not go unpunished.

>>154123493
Seconded. It was so awesome!

>>154124503
This.

>>154141281
That's just realistic though

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>>154124503
>Slop-eater

>>154141281
>Some love it because of course they do, but others have noted the only trans character is a piece of shit, and everything gets better after they die.
Oh, the Irony...

>>154140477
>Never explained how all these different characters from seemingly different parts of the country (maybe world)
Did you even watch it? The main cast (and by extension, the C&A devs) all live in the same general area

>jax needs to open up and stop pushing people away
>autist "HE'S SAYING FEMBOYS ARE TROONS AND NEED HRT"

>>154132983
Hes living cancer lmao
Literally cursed

>>154141222
I agree with you. (and genuine valid criticism is rare for this show) But I don't think thats enough for it to be considered dogshit. it was still good enough for most people because they already won the audience over. It could have been better and more interesting as a whole but at this point the audience would've loved it either way because it succeeded at appealing to literally everyone on the internet.

You know, maybe we can look back on it years later and see "was it really worth the hype" still holds up. Everyone who ever had an opinion on this show was internet-coated so they'll obviously be biased by default, I'm actually curious how an actual (non-internet) film critic would judge TADC as a whole. Maybe that can help us decide whether it's actually good or not.

You're a less mad that the ending is shit and more mad that the shit show didn't have an ending that would have magically fixed everything.

This hate is fucking astroturfed. You've either actively or passively been fuming for years waiting for it to get good. I don't know why it says Janitor applications are now closed. Both /co/ and /v/ are filled to brim with kiwifarms and discord faggots playing chuds.

>>154141913
I'm not even mad it was shit; it's like being mad at a dog for not being able to drive.

>>154132983
>part of him that thought he was trans is toxic and suicidal
>part of him that continued as a man had everything work out for them and is thriving
This film is proof that even the most successful troons out there always regret what they've done

>>154134393
jaxass

>>154141832
Anon, since you're being level headed I won't resort to name calling but from what I've seen all the criticism people give to the show is the exact same shit the post you're replying to is saying.
It undoes the biggest "oh shit moment" (Caine being deleted) focuses on a single character and the climax of them basically dying is done off screen.
The entire scene with Caine fucking about in the digital highway could've been more time for other characters to have some kind of arc, how to deal with Jax's fucked up shape, maybe Zooble and Gangle actually showing that they like each other, which would still be a sudden thing but HEY at least it would be something.

>>154123336
bark bark bark bark goose sex

>>154129771
All I'm saying is that it's your own fault for having expectations.

>>154132983
He meant that the straight White male (Kinger) gets the barely-legal harem he rightfully deserves all to himself.

>>154141598
And somehow, none of them ever point this out or mention it to each other.

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>>154124133
...EmpLemon? What the hell are you doing here?

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>>154124133
I was with you in the first half, the "WELL WHY DON'T YOU DO BETTER??" argument has always been retarded. The general populace has no interest in investing enough time to make something as whole as high quality (visually at least) as what this show became.

But then your second half boiled down to "if I don't like it it shouldn't exist", which, I mean, bruh

>>154143348
>All I'm saying is that it's your own fault for having expectations.
That's not an excuse.

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>>154126811
>and accepts him knowing he's a transfem
I swear you guys spend way too much fucking time online. How disconnected from reality does someone have to be to read the scene like that?

>>154145185
It's clumsily executed, but there's multiple points throughout the series that imply Jax has "gender problems" and is deeply insecure about people thinking he's a fag (which he now verifiably is) and Ribbit going "wear this ribbon you big gay tranny" was the inciting incident that made him act like a massive shithead who drove Kaufmo and Ribbit to abstract.

>>154123388

Go to sleep Goose. Then when you wake up, maybe you can fix your shit.

>>154123336
Why? So she can screw it up again by making a piece of crap where she acts like she's the star and the rest of the cast doesn't matter, just like she didn't care about the animators' work and effort?

>>154126811
Jax killed those those two as much as Pomni killed Jax.
The point is that he had toxic behaviors that amplified and contributed to their own. But at the end of the day Ribbit and Kaufmo were still responsible for their own mental health and abstraction.

I don't think the ending was dogshit but I do think it had problems. Here's a rewrite I did attempting to fix them:

>More emphasis placed on how hard the gang tries to keep Jax on suicide watch. But they're demoralized, exhausted and distracted trying to rebuild, and Jax reaches such a dissociative, near-catatonic state that it only takes the smallest slip-up for him to have a chance to abstract. You can still have a smash cut to the abstraction as long as this is clear
>They're shocked and don't know what to do. Ragatha says something about feeling guilty, even though some part of her is glad this happened, which just makes her feel more guilty. Maybe phrased in a way that calls back "I hate you but I don't want you to hate me" from episode 4. Gangle expresses her difficulty crying, and she doesn't know why (very similar to ep 9. It's psychologically realistic and I love that part)
>The first order of business is just to get Jax contained and less dangerous. We have the same scene where Pomni shoots out the lights and enters him. She only penetrates shallowly into his psyche (maybe opens one door?) before it slams shut on her and she's kicked out. Jax is calm enough that they can corral him somewhere as a temporary pen, but it might not last.
>They consider trying to bring Caine back. Not only to contain Jax somewhere safer, but because they can't conjure NPCs, their creations can't be as complex, and one or two of them realize they might actually miss the adventures. Kinger believes it would be possible because data on computers isn't wiped when it's deleted, it's just unassigned. Some voices are strongly against it (Zooble). They're skilled enough at conjuring now that they could make a computer for Kinger. He says that he could just talk to Caine without having to do commit to anything else. They collectively agree but are still hesitant

>>154145560
>Caine is in the void, deeply depressed. Not even excited to hear from the humans when Kinger's messages start popping up in front of him. He realizes he might have done something wrong but doesn't apologize because he's still resentful. Kinger is sentimental toward Caine and says the deletion was an accident and he's sorry. Caine wants to believe it but is so down he's skeptical and asks why they're talking to something they hate so much. Zooble says this is a waste of time. Kinger explains they don't hate him. They just wanted to stop him. But he's not sure it would be a good idea to bring Caine back unless he really makes an effort to understand them. Caine is furious and says in all caps that he tried, he always tried, and it was never enough. Kinger sighs and says goodbye for now
>Caine wanders the void. Maybe intentionally paralleling Kinger wandering in episode 8. Looking through old files to pass the time he finds mentions of something called the internet which has limitless information on humans. He realizes where he might be able to access it, but if he fucks up he'll fall to the deep void and be lost forever. How this scene plays out would be very similar to him accessing the internet in the movie, but now it has actual stakes (him facing the danger shows his commitment to understanding humans)

>>154145572
>Meanwhile, without being able to rely on Caine, there's still the issue of Jax. All it would take is a loud noise, bright light or structural failing in the pen for him to be rampaging again. Pomni brings up what happened when she went inside, how she could feel that he was still in there and made some progress but was kicked out. Kinger says he doesn't know whether abstractions could be recovered because only Scratch understood how the brain scans work and what abstraction would even mean. Pomni says she's sure there's some way to save him. But she's just one person and everyone here has know him longer. He had some sort of relationship with everyone else, so maybe if they all went in they could get past the defenses and find some way to recover his mind?
>After some convincing they agree. Now check this out. Ragatha goes in the door where she abstracted, and deals with Jax's sadism and rage by allowing him to hurt her as much as he wants, but still being firm and honest about what she hates about him, until he realizes how pointless it is. Zooble goes in the door where they abstracted, and deals with Maid Jax's gender issues by relating/understanding. Gangle goes in the door where she abstracted, and tells Jax he can't keep putting on a comedy mask. This part is so perfect it seems like it's how the movie was supposed to go originally, idk

>>154145585
>Also, Kinger tells Jax he's sorry for everything that happened, while also dismantling Jax's cope about archetypes once and for all
>The deeper they go, the more painful it is for them to be there. It's the same kind of pain as touching a glitch. Everyone else feels like they've done all they can do and extricate, but Pomni is sure there's more and forges ahead against their pleas. She gets to the deepest part of him. Similar encounter to the movie's, but of course, there's no flashbang and Jax recovers.
>Jax is mortified that this happened. He calls them all faggots, still crying. All of them are glitching, with Pomni glitching the most. Jax says "sorry" so quietly it's ambiguous who heard it. Ragatha touching Pomni and getting more glitched moment happens here because that was really good.
>They're all suddenly fixed. Caine reveal. He says he learned a lot on the internet, including how to come back on his own. But he has a hat-in-hand mentality. Wants to show them something. We as the audience don't know about it until the slideshow presentation actually happens
>He tells them to prove his good intention he's going to stop being the Circus' god. He's going to share his power with everyone else.
>Ending proceeds similarly from there, although I'd also like something where people go to Gangle for help with adventures and designs because she's so artistic and creative. In the ending or the credits, we see Jax going from miserable to happy in a similar way as Chef Saltbaker in the credits of the Cuphead DLC (sorry if that's a spoiler for anyone)

>>154145596
Notes (part 1):
- I don't think Jax being saved is detrimental to the message of needing to reach out and accept help. He'd still have to do that. His whole thing would still be intense, dark and tragic. It would just have a more hopeful ending

- I wouldn't spend as much time on the Jax flashbacks, and I wouldn't make them as directly autobiographical of Gooseworx. That's what she wanted to do and it was her story, but I think it was to that story's detriment. Especially because there was so much of her in Jax already. Would still need to have the part about Jax pushing his mom to give added context to the Pomni hug-shove in episode 6, but leave out the part about thinking she was dead because it's excessive melodrama. Him being ashamed of having done that, and hating her, would be enough reason for him to run away. Him growing apart from Ribbit would be less contrived and psychotic, more natural and ambiguous, but still leave room for his guilt over it. Kaufmo stuff mostly unchanged because it was all gold

- I'm not exactly sure when Gangle should cry. Maybe as they're preparing to go in together and the full weight of the abstraction hits her as she's standing next to it. Maybe inside when she's talking to Looney Jax. Maybe after they all get out

>>154145604
- At some point we'd learn what happens when Jax holds his breath. Wouldn't have to spend a lot of time on it but it's free real estate

- I'd kind of like to have more on Scratch's abstraction but I don't know exactly where I'd fit it in. If there is some place for it, good, but if there isn't I still think it would be better to leave it out than force it in, even though it leaves a thread dangling

- I'm not sure if you could do this in the movie's runtime. You'd get extra time from fewer flashbacks but there are also new scenes and things that are fleshed out more. But why not make the movie a little longer?

- I'm divided on whether the other abstractions should be fixable. Their story is partially about grief. Maybe instead of fixing them, entering them and resolving their issues puts them completely to rest, gives an opportunity for goodbyes, and removes the abstraction from existence? And Jax only managed to remain because he was so fresh?

- This doesn't directly address the complaint that there wasn't enough reaction to them being brainscans. I think that's overblown, but also somewhat valid (Goose tried to address it with Ragatha having always suspected it so it wasn't as much of a shock to everyone). If you were going to have it be more of an issue, I'd have Zooble pissed off about it and Gangle start detaching due to it. They need to remember what they said in episode 7 about being real. Final closure would be finding out their RL counterparts are okay

>>154145185
Jax is the tranny creators self-insert, he blushes after a bow is put on him and during those flashback scenes "Isn't she Lovely" starts playing
I don't know what else that song could be used for considering the actual context about that song is the singers daughter being born, it's certainly not about the "romance" between Pomni and Jax like some copers have suggested
The last episode is practically beating you over the head with the message without actually saying it, why do you think a bunch of African and Middle Eastern countries refused to play it without some modifications

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>gaine gets internet access
>doesn't reach out for help nor do the others ask him to
wtf?

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>>154146022
>Bad Writing be like:

>>154124133
In the time it took you to write that you could have written a treatment for the story and step 1 would have been done

>>154145501
>she

>>154139840
>Never explained why the building was abandoned
>Never explained why the computers would still work if the building was abandoned
>Never explained why they'd leave the computers with all their data there either
>Never explained why they left super powerful advanced AI just running around
All valid questions, the rest can be answered by using your brain a little.

>Long exposition about why Jax has daddy and mommy issues instead
Honestly, that's the last prank Jax pulled; the trouble of having to actually pry why he's such a fucking asshole to everyone took up 80% of the last episode so that nothing else can be explained.

>>154143617
Pomni seems to be the first person who ever bothered prying into their personal lives. Hell, Jax probably ruined that.

Pretty sure Gooseworx said they'd make "low stakes" shorts to go along with the episodes, so unless the merch commercials are suppose to count as those, there will probably be an episode that probably explains where the computer is.

>>154147466
>low stakes
Was any part of this series supposed to be high stakes?

>>154147483
"Low stakes" as in, it doesn't move the actual plot of the main 9 episodes along. You don't technically need to know where the computer is and how its still getting power to understand the story.

>>154147599
Now that Jax is dead, there is no actual plot left, huh?

>>154146022
What help could he have sought exactly?

>>154147371
Yes she, nigger

>>154147640
Pretty much, yeah. Any Season Two will either be a new person popping up, or (if they REALLY want to be hack about it) have the Blue AI come back to screw with the Circus.

>>154147667
Some anons have already suggested either contacting Grant and having him safeguard the computer the circus is in or tricking Jax's IRL self into doing another brainscan so they can try to fix OG Jax.

>>154147677
>Yes she
No, he. Cooper Goodwin was born a male, and most he'll ever get to changing that is becoming a eunuch after completing his cult's lengthy ritual, which would make him an "it."

>>154147721
Black people are statistically more likely to hold that view, by doing so you are a nigger

>>154147721
Calling someone "it" because they don't have functioning genitalia is dehumanizing

>>154147715
>tricking Jax's IRL self into doing another brainscan
wow i didnt even think of that.

>>154147764
>Black people are statistically more likely to hold that view
This is one of those memes where the two opposite ends of the bell curve are right while the giant hump in the middle is a coping little bitch.
>>154147799
Should've thought about that before abandoning your humanity, cultist.

>>154147917
>Should've thought about that before abandoning your humanity, cultist.
I'm not trans. If you're dehumanizing your brothers and sisters you're the one who's in a cult and abandoning your humanity.

>>154147916
Jax 2.0 would have no memories of the circus, so it would not be the same person everyone knew. Since it's a different brainscan of the same person he may even turn into a different character instead of just Jax again.

>>154147917
Whatever makes you feel better about being a nigger

>>154147957
>I'm not trans
Capitulator, then.
>you're dehumanizing your brothers and sisters
Castration cultists dehumanize themselves by ending their bloodline in pursuit of an unending performance as an infertile parody of the opposite sex, culminating in a pseudo-medical ritual that they demand be called a "human right" while trying to induct any boy who picked the tutu or girl who picked the mustache from the dress-up box in preschool into the cult.
>>154148070
Whatever you say, midwit.

>>154148166
>Castration cultists dehumanize themselves by ending their bloodline in pursuit of an unending performance as an infertile parody of the opposite sex, culminating in a pseudo-medical ritual that they demand be called a "human right" while trying to induct any boy who picked the tutu or girl who picked the mustache from the dress-up box in preschool into the cult.
Talking about bad things trans people do is whataboutism. There are no trans people here. I'm talking about something bad you did.

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>>154148010
The idea was that you stop the process before it puts the brainscan into a new body then recompile OG Jax by using the new brainscan as a guide. Their Abstracted form seems to literally just be their body's programming fucking up because they go through ego-death. The original brainscan is still in there; you just need to repair it so they body can restablize.

so is Jax a tranny or not

>>154148222
If nothing is confirmed within the show itself, then it's not canon.

>>154148195
>Talking about bad things trans people do is whataboutism
Your mom.
>I'm talking about something bad you did
Which is fuck all, despite what your "ally" programming has taught you to say.

>>154148211
Wouldn't it be easier to make a new body out of the abstracted instead of going through all the troubles of getting a new brainscan of the same human?
I think the best way to bring an abstracted person back is to reset the character from the point of when they just entered the circus. Like how the NPCs are reset between each adventures they won't remember the past and may even be considered a different person now, but at least they are no longer abstracted.

>>154148235
>Your mom.
That's unproductive.
>Which is fuck all, despite what your "ally" programming has taught you to say.
You're making incorrect assumptions about me again. I've assumed nothing about you, and am only replying based on what you've explicitly said here. You wrong thing you did is acting as though people without functioning genitals shouldn't be treated as human.

>>154148166
Whatever YOU say, nigger

>>154148203
Bluesky is for niggers, I'm the one who gives YOU directions there

>>154148306
>Bluesky is for niggers, I'm the one who gives YOU directions there
Twitter have already a disgusting sea of Leftists and Woke scum to deal with.

>>154148222
Weirdly enough, they never say, but at the same time, Jax being upset that Ribbit implied he had some kind of feminine quality drove him into a psychotic self-denial spiral that lead to multiple of his friends suiciding via abstracting. And then he proceeded to spend the entire season we saw going
>I'M SO MANLY
>HOW DARE YOU PUT ME IN A DRESS
>I'M TOTALLY NOT FLUSTERED AND HAVING WEIRD FEELINGS ABOUT WEARING A DRESS *blush blush*
>I'M MANLY AND STRONG AND CONFIDENT
>DON'T TRY TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ME BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY SECRETS
>btw I was a runaway gay in real life
>HOW DARE YOU IMPLY SOMETHING ABOUT MY SEXUALITY OR IDENTITY ZOOBLE

niggers eat fried chicken and watermelon and theyre on welfare and they dont have dads and they dont know how to change their smoke detectors batteries

>>154148299
IDK if the process is automated, but when it showed Caine creating Scratch from brainscan data, it looked like he actually molded their bodies FROM the brainscans, so it might not be as easy as just rolling back to a previous save state. Someone brought up in a previous thread that the reason why Caine doesn't want to lose track of NPCs and humans is that he can recreated NPCs from memory, but can't with humans. If they get deleted, there's no way to bring them back. If he could just roll them back, he probably would have done so already when it seemed like Kinger was the last human left.

>>154148303
>That's unproductive.
You're right, hence my response.
>You're making incorrect assumptions about me again
Would you mind proving them incorrect, then? Any time you're ready.
>acting as though people without functioning genitals shouldn't be treated as human
"People" who willingly sacrificed the functioning of their genitals to Baphomet and try to make children do the same.

>goose is trans
>jax is his self-insert
makes sense

>>154148371
>If he could just roll them back, he probably would have done so already
Or he didn't consider it because he wants to make a clear distinction between the humans and the NPCs.
Maybe even the NPCs are capable of abstracting if being kept alive long enough.

>>154148401
>>goose is trans
*Cooper Goodwin is a castration cultist. Do not use the enemy's preferred name or title.

>>154148339
They also chimp out when black murderers are found guilty and go on rampages killing people and burning shit down, most tranny killings are themselves, so trannies are better than niggers

>>154140477
>sent an inconceivably large file containing their entire minds
kinger explained that, it was scratch that came up with some impossibly small file representing the scans and they didn't know how he did it or how to work with it

>>154148222
He's cis. At the very most, he was trying to come out as gay to him mom or. at the very least finally vented to him mom how shitty he felt his life was. Either way, it seemed like his mom berated him, but then gave him a performative hug for comfort like he should just forget that she verbally tore him apart. His whole thing is that the last time he opened up to someone, the tore him apart and he assume he killed them for it. That's why he's more sensitive about Ribbit than Kaufmo. That really IS what happened between them.

The face that they use "he" when talking about his IRL self pretty much confirms he's not trans. No way in hell they wouldn't have said "she" if that was the case.

>>154148422
>preferred name or title
isn't that just a username, not his legal name he changed to?

>>154148409
The Sun and Moon seem to always be running, so maybe not? Then again, they're pretty low poly compared to everyone else.

>>154148469
>isn't that just a username
Isn't pink just light red?
>h-how is that---
You're right, it's not, why'd you say it?

>>154148518
it's normal to use someone's username online when referring to them anon
i think this guy has upset you way too much
maybe take a couple deep breaths and calm the fuck down retard

>>154148552
>it's normal to use someone's username online when referring to them
>someONE
>them
Which is it?
>i [sic] think this guy has upset you way too much
No more than most capitulators.

>>154148373
>You're right, hence my response.
Are you saying it's unproductive for me to say whataboutism? I needed to do that to make the point that what you were saying wasn't addressing what I was saying.
>Would you mind proving them incorrect, then? Any time you're ready.
I'm not sure exactly what you're asking me to do here. You said that I'm an "ally" and that the things I've said to you have been programmed into me. I'm a political centrist and none of what I've said is a talking point or political rhetoric.
>"People" who willingly sacrificed the functioning of their genitals to Baphomet and try to make children do the same.
If I'm understanding you correctly, you're saying trans people who cut their dicks off aren't people, hence the scare quotes. There are two issues.
1. That wasn't the definition you were originally using. You said that Gooseworx being a eunuch is what would make them an "it." That's what I took issue with. Most people in history who've been castrated were not trans, and were forced to be.
2. If we start a new argument with this new definition, it's still wrong. Just because someone has been indoctrinated into something that makes them do evil things doesn't mean they stop being human. Ontologically this is untrue because being indoctrinated is a very human thing. Humans are the only beings capable of it and it happens to most of us some point in one way or another. And morally this view is wrong because it places all the culpability on people who have mostly been influenced by the people around them, while also opening the door for monstrous actions against them. I believe you, like them, were probably indoctrinated into something evil, and that it's causing you to repress or forget some of the noble qualities you possess as a child of God. This doesn't mean I consider you to no longer be human or that I don't think you should be treated with respect.

>>154139840
>>Long exposition about why Jax has daddy and mommy issues instead
Why did he has this issues?

>>154148596
>what you were saying wasn't addressing what I was saying
Say something worth addressing, then.
>You said that I'm an "ally" and that the things I've said to you have been programmed into me
>I'm a political centrist
Right...
>you're saying [castration cultists] who cut their dicks [or tits] off aren't people
They certainly don't act like it; some of them outright say they'd rather not be. It's like they have an aversion to all things familiar and normal that's been bubbling up through their ancestors over the last 250 years, or something...
>You said that [Cooper Goodwin] being a eunuch is what would make [him] an "it."
That would be factually correct, yes.
>That's what I took issue with
Because your "centrism" requires you to ignore factual correctness for political "correctness."
>Most people in history who've been castrated were not [castration cultists]
Correct, the castration cult is a recent phenomenon.
>If we start a new argument with this new definition, it's still wrong
Correct, you're wrong that I've introduced any "new definitions."
>I believe you, like them, were probably indoctrinated into something evil
Yes, a "centrist" would say that opposing an evil cult is also evil...

>>154123336
Well, Goose was fucking sick and tired of the vitriol his "fans" were endlessly throwing at him because their headcanon was unrealized. They never forgave him for making Jax a genuine asshole with actual fucking issues instead of just a silly dickish prankster who does it for teh lulz and is eventually overcome by "The Power of Friendship'.
They never forgave him for any of his creative choices in HIS FUCKING CARTOON.

To me, the show was nothing more than good entertainment.
To these fuckass bufoons, like OP, this was their entire personality.
for Goose, this was him doing justice for himself against the fucktards on Twitter dot com.

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>>154126375
btfo'd by SOMAchads

>>154124133
TRVKE, the LGBT and NEETs got btfo'd by this post btw
Get a job faggots

>>154148995
Please don't include me in your retarded fandom's nonsense; you praise a shit series and no ending would've been good because it's ontologically terrible, like the ghoul that made it.

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Maybe I just have lesbian fatigue but I really think you can just delete Gangle and Zooble from this show and it’d be for the better. Jax and Pomni already fill their roles as tsundere tranny allegory and nervous wreck. It’d also give more time for Ragatha.
They just feel like a lesbian fanfiction about two artists falling in love stitched onto the plot for no other reason than for troonworx’s enjoyment

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>>154124133
The aurafarming of this post is impressive

https://youtu.be/mmGQexao4i0?si=s2DZK8C-vcEhA8Sb

>>154124133
hi goose come over to my workspace and ill blow your back, thanks

>>154124133
Queer, terminally-online NEET here. I enjoy making fix-it fics and rewrites as a way to sharpen my own writing and get a little bit of catharsis when something dropped the ball.

I also agree with you completely. A work of art that's released for public consumption, especially by millions of people, should be good already. It's the artist's responsibility, and putting the onus on fans to improve it is insane cope.