I feel like there's a clear distinction between Western Cartoon voice direction vs Anime dub voice direction but I'm not sure how to put it into words.
>>154153238Animes voice actors sound a tiny bit more natural
>>154153311...the same way someone on talking while masturbating is "natural"
>>154153238Mind naming examples?
Simple: anime dub actors are not part of the original production, so there's a creative gap between their performance and the work, where the actors are making a lot of assumptions about how it should be performed. Whether their performance is good or not depends almost entirely on their ability to figure out what the anime's director was trying to do in the scene. They can try blindly imitating the emotion and expression of the Japanese actor, but they have no idea if that performance was actually good or "true" to what the director wanted, much less what the original author of the script wanted.In Japan, the original author can weigh in on voice casting decisions, sit in on auditions, attend recording sessions, and provide feedback. Not always, but they have that option. It's not even an option for the dub.But for western cartoons, the cartoon's staff can actually meet the voice actors, can make the characters' expressions and visual mannerisms match the actor's personality and voice more. You don't get that with a dub.
>>154153238It’s mainly because anime is all ADR, matching randomly animated lip flaps to translated dialogue while looking at finished art complete with FX and facial acting, causing the overall style difference in technique. In the american cartoon they record it earlier in the process and are directed about the delivery in order to create the show atmosphere.But voice actors work in both and influence each other, anyway depending on the country its probably going to be seen dubbed most of the time with the same voice actors dubbing both types of show in that language lol.
>>154153238lip flaps are timed to the native language. There's always going to be something that's slightly more forced when it's applied to a language that it wasn't spoken natively. This applies to both anime dub work as well as foreign dubs for English language media.
>>154153238I can name an opposite example of this approach; Space Goofs. Has an unusually stacked English VA cast, and that's because it was dubbed in English first BEFORE it was dubbed in French.
meeting Jim Cumming and Sean Schemmel at the same time and the vibes is really different
I feel like many anime dub voice actors try to act "anime," like the girls imitate their idea of a cutesy anime girl voice rather than how they'd act for a Western cartoon girl.
>>154154440This is it. Timing is one thing, but it is entirely possible to just not sound 'anime' if you put in literally any effort. Take the ever-elusive British dubs for example. Their voice acting culture favours more flexible direction and takes full advantage of their myriad accents rather than just defaulting to the Anime Accent.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gGw1Z8R4Aw
>>154153324Seems natural for the onlyfans girls Im subscribed to
I hate to say it because there's a lot of good dub VAs but usually cartoon VAs are more talented than dub VAs and don't have to stoop to doing whatever shonen slop is coming out or hentaiUnless they're Canadian
>>154153238The term you're looking for is called "acting" and not "QUICK-hire-these-random-ecelebs-with-no-profession". Strange how that works.
>>154153238Fundamental differences between the languages.
I think we can all agree that anime is inferior, specially of itself from over 20 years ago.
>>154154911>to doing whatever shonen slopDude, look at the invincible cast, all those well known guys doing shonen slop(and capeshit one at that so even worse) .
>>154154440This plus no direction from the original creators plus a lot of times anime dub VAs are just inexperienced noobs cutting their teeth
>>154153238Just listen to the subs, the dubs are shit.>>154155987Inferior to what? Dub vas are not even part of the anime
>>154154860Tbh I don't like this that much either, I would rather listen to Toshio and Saeko's impressions
>>154156330Not an anime, but I've been comparing the original Italian voices of TATDL to the Bri'ish English ones. You could tell the mics on the English dub were of a lower quality.
Western voice acting mogs the fuck out of Japanese voice acting. Even celebrities in movies that aren't very good are better than most anime VAs. Anime tries to hard to sound like anime, over here we just don't give a fuck and have characters sound like whatever. It's funnier that way. It's like how in Japan they have Plankton sound like an anime girl. Why? The joke is that he's small and has a deep voice. They rely too much on tropes and cutesy whining. We have our own tropes but they are usually not on the voice acting. Our characters sound more like real people.
>>154153238Almost like there's a communication disconnect or something.
>>154156473>Our characters sound more like real people.Lmao, I think it's the exact opposite especially considering most cartoons are retarded comedies including adult cartoons. Joe Yabuki is better written than 99.99% of all western cartoon characters.
>>154156473>Western voice acting mogs the fuck out of Japanese voice actingThen why do most dubs suck compared to the the japanese dubs? >Even celebrities in movies that aren't very good are better than most animeThat's live action and has nothing to do with cartoons. > Anime tries to hard to sound like animThat's like saying that "cartoons try to hard to sound cartoons', it's bullshit. There are a lot of anime that sound different depending on the genre, of course zany wacky stuff will sound exaggerate to fit the characters.
>>154153238Japanese is a fast language, and voice actors have to talk faster to properly sync with the clips. They might also not be putting in as much of an effort as anime dubbing pays significantly less than voicing cartoons, hence why VAs like Jennifer Hale avoids doing them.
>>154153329https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFgcz4LlYG8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiOvihZKswAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAO-fclSOKs
>>154156541I thought it was because of union issues.
