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>>154332683im glad shes supportive
If the finale was so bad, why is the reception outside of 4chan so positive overall?
>>154332642But it's such a cop-out belief to have.Obviously we are more than the sum of our biological components. We are able to articulate things other species' can't. And YET, we still have people acting like we'll never surpass our own limitations or insignificance, even though we clearly have the drive and potential to. We have promise, nothing else in the animal kingdom compares to that.I mean fuck we don't even know WHY we can imagine things while other creatures can't. Maybe they do? Dogs have dreams, but they don't have souls. Do we not have souls? It could also equally mean though that every living thing has a soul, but we just don't know it.I refuse to believe we're just fleshy bits that stop mattering once we're shot in the head. There is too much interesting and cool shit out there in the universe for there not to be some intrinsic value to it all that we can recognize.>>154332679Maybe if you're a preacher trying to swindle the elderly out of their money, it seems like a dumb take, but religion is all about believing in something higher than yourself; it is a selfless and humbling set of beliefs to have. I don't get the contradiction here besides the preacher one.
I want Pomni to vore me
>>154332700>but religion is all about believing in something higher than yourself; it is a selfless and humbling set of beliefs to have. Now you're the dumbest anon in two threads
>>154332683based
>>154332700There is no proof that a "soul" is an actual thing, again another made up conceptNothing is "real" in the way you're trying to say it is
>>154332708I accept your concession.
>>154332676did the tourists left yet?
>>154332673nigger when people are out here cutting off their dicks and mutilating themselves; is what kind of shows other people watch really at the top of your concern list? we ve already had this same song and dance before with FiM
I don't mind the finale being about Jax because the whole point is showing what happens specifically when someone is unable to cope with their reality and come to terms with themselves.
>>154332715God came to me in a dream and he said you're retarded for wanting your religious convictions validated in TADC.
>>154332698just answered your own question award
https://youtu.be/V4lr-npnvqM?si=db4mIvIpnV9fvUQX
>>154332655That's part of what's so frustrating about the ending. They had such a good setup early on and could have taken it in many directions so I was genuinely invested in seeing what they did with the concept. So to see it take SUCH a massive turn from all of that and go all in on tranny shit of all things is such a blue balling.>>154332675It doesn't matter. Right now we could be infinite levels of simulations deep, but we don't know. They know for a fact they're at least one level deep, we know we're at least zero levels deep. Huge difference. Have you ever had a lucid dream, and done something that you wouldn't ever do in reality? It's like that, but permanent for them. It's not something the human brain was ever equipped to deal with.>>154332691I'd argue that it's less relevant now. It's the same reason you don't bat an eye killing another player in a video game but would have an issue killing someone in real life. Now ask yourself, if you were transported into the video game, knew it was a came, and killed someone in it, would you feel the same as if you killed someone irl? Probably not.
>>154332723>someone is unable to cope with their reality and come to terms with themselves.is it though? because what does the circus have to do with jax's trans issues?is it though? because what does the circus exactly have to do with jax's trans issues, out
>>154332726I'm not religious, though? I can still make a point for religion without having to be religious.
Guys, is this true?
/tadc/s preferred friends
>>154332741You're complaints of what you wanted the show to be about are just nonsense. Go jack off to veggie tales.
Cutie
>>154332676Looked like a duck from the thumbnail
>>154332714okay but how do I know you have a real consciousness, even though I can't tangibly hold it in my hand, and can only use my own consciousness as a reference point for its existence? how do I know your red isn't my blue? this shit is impossible to verify, but is true/can be very likely be true.
>>154332748>a gigantic chunk of this general wants to hang out with Arin HansonMan these threads are a dumping ground of poor taste.
>>154332629>Everything IS supposed to matter, because without that feeling of everything mattering, what DOES matter besides anything you might be selfishly interested in?Respect and compassion for our fellows. It's part of why Zooble says "We're still human"(paraphrasing) after the brain scan reveal
>>154332738>Have you ever had a lucid dream, and done something that you wouldn't ever do in reality? It's like that, but permanent for them. It's not something the human brain was ever equipped to deal with.Dreaming is not a conscious state of being, their thought processes are not shown to be different from oursNothing says they're completely uninhibited, pomni has to learn to hold her breath permanently for example. They shoot eachothers with guns not because "nothing matters" but because there's no lasting consequences to it. They don't magically start doing whatever because they're a simulation, most people wouldn't either.
>>154332762I want to hang out with Kaufmo it's not my fault he's voiced by some guy
i wanna see shippers fighting. fight. stop it with the chudslop and the oh it was actually shit. just have some fun ._.
>>154332762Kaufmo is a perfectly idealized Arin Hanson from when Game Grumps was still him and Jon.
>>154332758That's the point. You're trying to talk about inherent meaning or inherent reality or something but as far as we can observe there's no such thing. The closest thing to it are the laws of physics but even then we don't know the full story.
>>154332748ragatha kaufmo and ribbit are like the worst people. ragatha is boring as hell. kaufmo is just chill. he has no personality in a space where theres literally nothing but ourselves. and ribbit is just. hot? and nice. like wow. kinger and jax are the actually interesting ppl
This is canon to me
>>154332739I mean it kind of is, everyone who abstracted did some as a result of being unable to accept how things were. Even someone like Ribbit, whose abstraction is almost exclusively a result of Jax pushing her away and gaslighting her as a defense mechanism, abstracted specifically because she couldn't accept that Jax was acting the way he was and desperately wanted them to reconnect.
>>154332771Bro Jax was like the pillar of the ship wars and he's dead, trans, and might not even be into Ribbit and Pomni
>>154332772>I like loud noises and terrible gaming skill!Cringe
>>154332718Nah, they just went to sleep.
>>154332783whats interesting about the tranny freak asshole?
>>154332794>doesn't want to shoot the shit and riff on a game with his broMore Kaufmo for me I guess.
I forget where I first read it but someone pointed out all this post-finale info Goose is sharing could be better used as a tie-in book or something.Similarly to Gravity Falls getting new lore drops every few years with new books. Could be a neat way to expand on things that didn't get the proper screentime it deserved too Ragatha
Bubble.
>>154332738>if you were transported into the video game, knew it was a came, and killed someone in it, would you feel the same as if you killed someone irl? Probably notIf you mean some bog standard VR experience, no.If the world in the game felt as real as reality does now and the victim isn't some NPC with hardcoded lines but someone who expressed sapience, or least the illusion of it, then yes. Hell, I'd be uncomfortable killing an AI robot if it could plead and scream realistically enough.
>>154332758Anyways, on a non circus note, believe in whatever you want anon because most things are as real as anything else, who knows
>>154332718I'm still here enjoying the finale and the whole show in general. Seems like I won and the chuds lost.
"brain scans" was never the problem, in fact thats perfect, they simply just needed to have resolution that involved the scans having learned and grown then somehow, in a plot related way, escaping by merging with their real world selves, who then go on to become actualized like we saw in the powerpoint. otherwise, we get what we got. 5 scans we've been shown are conscious, trapped in hell forever, but at least there's baseball and hot chocolate.
>>154332803Why the fuck would I want to riff with Arin Hanson, a guy who sucks at games and has bad taste? Enjoy your digital hell.
>>154332683Here's the thing I'll never understand about trannies. Society is doing a lot of work to move past gender norms and give females the same opportunities of makes and treat then equally, trying to push the idea that's it's ok for a girl to like masculine stuff and vice versa, then trannies come along and say "you're a guy that likes pink? Then you're a girl!", what the fuck?
>>154332783I'd hang with Kinger too but he's only lucid in the dark and the finale showed that he doesn't always remember the last time he was lucid. It'd be more like hanging out with grandpa.>JaxIt's all fun and games until you slip up and wrong him in some way, then you're put on the train to abstraction town.
>>154332801funny. tranny. cool. and not like entirely an asshole. he doesnt wear his heart on his sleeve. thats more inherently interesting than oh im just a really nice person wanna be friends lets be friends and ill be ur emotional support. cmon. have some fun. and pomni is such a better option too than all of those ppl.
>>154332815she looks so nortubel here wtf
>>154332762I don't even know much about that guy I just think Kaufmo is chill
>>154332820>trapped in hell foreverThey're not in hell thoughThey're in a world of their own that can be whatever they want
good night to snapper and spoils wherever they are
>>154332822Who gives a fuck if your bro sucks at video games.
>>154332767The show didn't explore the philosophy and possible depth of how npc clones are supposed to be real people, so we can't either. I stand on the soapbox that setting the show inside a computer program and having them end up as npcs was ultimately pointless and had no impact on the climax, just like tranny jax as no impact.
>>154332762we like the clown guy not hanson u doofus though early newgrounds egoraptor was basically 4chan at the time perfectly captured, like those oldschool /flash/ sensibilities
>>154332841If he has terrible taste and terrible takes he isnt my bro at all.
>>154332748I would have answered Pomni but you asked for preferred friends not preferred gf
>>154332823Careful anon, that's some dangerously independent and sensible thinking
>>154332738My willingness to kill NPCs is inversely proportional to how immersive the game is. I will actively avoid killing NPCs in some games.
>>154332824>It's all fun and games until you slip up and wrong him in some way, then you're put on the train to abstraction town.i mean he was pretty resilent. he basically drove the girl he had a crush on to suicide and his other best friend and was still like at least not abstracting until the very end. also i wouldn't be a fucking therapychud loser and be like oh whenever u want im here for u! like that never works jax WE are talking WE are talking abour ur tranny shit NOW i am forcing u. thats how u do it. maybe its cuz ive been friends with lots of people like jax>hanging out with grandpa.eh kinda. but im assuming its like past ep 9 and he basically wears the bucket 24/7 also it would be nice to talk to a regular guy in see of annoying teenagers with their drama.
>>154332837Eventually they'll get bored of the adventures, they'll need stronger and stroger stimuli, how far will they push themselves? What happens when they'll start going insane and abstract one by one?
>>154332718Not yet
>>154332744I’ve been dating Goose this whole time? Does that make me trans?
>>154332845>The show didn't explore the philosophy and possible depth of how npc clones are supposed to be real people, so we can't eitherWho is Gummigoo
>>154332860>WE are talking abour ur tranny shitImplying anyone would get that, nobody in the show figured out Jax was trans because it was an asspull by goose to justify his crazyness
>>154332860Jax literally just needed a beating
>>154332832Ragatha also doesnt wear her heart on her sleeve, and actively tries to cheer you up. Despite not having the self esteem to receive help from others as well. That's just as interesting as Jax.Also this is about who you'd want to be friends with, not about who's interesting. Why the fuck would you not want to be friends who uplift and support you?
>>154332823>"you're a guy that likes pink? Then you're a girl!" How many times did the guy who happened to like pink trooned out?
>>154332806That's Daddy Bubble to you
>>154332879Ribbit did you doofus
>>154332879im sorta picturing a world after ep 9 where jax is unabstracted where she would be out>>154332880or a rape. maybe caine could get a npc to rape her
>>154332853I really need an answer though, trannies are basically hyper sexists yet they're accepted by the progressive bunch, why?
On the subject of the whole brain scan thing, did anyone else watch picrel?
>>154332860>he basically drove the girl he had a crush on to suicide And this is the dude you want to be friends with? Lmfao
>>154332885Stop lying, Jax told her he thought he killed his mother and somehow it was about being trans? Nobody except schizos made that connection
>>154332877A dead npc. Who's personality was deleted and replaced with a clone that had no memory of the first one. See. In fact, what's stopping caine or kinger from just going into the mind files and making new versions of the old brainscans? Nothing, because goose didn't think about that.
>>154332893no but I made fun of the ending
>>154332882how does she not wear her heart on her sleeve?> Despite not having the self esteem to receive help from others as wellits ANNOYING>Why the fuck would you not want to be friends who uplift and support you?maybe im self hating. idk. i like being the uplifer in friendships. so maybe its like. too much positivity. i like fixing people? idk. good question brah>Also this is about who you'd want to be friends with, not about who's interestingi like being friends with intersting people
>>154332901You could potentially have infine ragatha clones
>>154332885How, though? What did jax say that would have tipped her off?
>>154332900>anon desperately pretending she didnt out a ribbon in Jax's hair
>>154332896ill fix him.
>>154332909You didn't answer how she supposedly figured it out, cuz jax didn't say anything that have tipped her off.
>>154332837yes they can do whatever they want now, however the issue with being there wasnt that you didnt have enough hot chocolate whenever you wanted, it was that you are trapped in a motherfucking goddamn computer, and thats still the case for all these characters when the credits roll there's just something about it, if they dont go with a merge/escape ending, then i needed a firmer line on if they are happy computer programs or deluded/nirvana human minds. its left a bit up in the air. like when they first got there they were fucking panicked as shit, and leaving was the main goal for the majority of the show, none of them wanted to be here, it shifted into reluctant acceptance until they find a way out, but now they end on what feels like a state of permanent acceptance which feels like a huge jump but the finale didnt place enough importance on acceptance of their environment, so much as it placed importance on acceptance of each other and themselves, which for sure is important given how character driven the show is, but the environment/circumstance acceptance was kinda.. snuck in there at the last second you know?
>>154332905Her whole schtick is that she doesnt always say what she's truly thinking? Thats literally not wearing your heart on your sleeve is. >likes being the uplifterThen you have more in common with Ragatha than you think. Also you sound like a woman
>>154332862eventually it would turn into Phantom Dust and they would have to create and live amongst an entire planet of npcs just to keep themselves sane
>>154332769>Dreaming is not a conscious state of being, their thought processes are not shown to be different from oursIt's not a perfect analogy but it's the closest thing I can come up with to try and illustrate my thought process.>Nothing says they're completely uninhibitedThey aren't but they could be, which is not something that's true of the real world.>They don't magically start doing whatever because they're a simulation, most people wouldn't either.I'm not so sure. Jax gets close to doing it. It's certainly plausible that the rest of the members are better equipped to handle this revelation than me, but for me this would cause me to lose my grip on whatever "reality" is left.>>154332811>>154332857That's pretty interesting. I guess you could liken their situation to a hyper-immersive VR video game, and you only realize that it IS a video game partway through playing. Now, you might continue to behave the same way, but there are definitely people who would immediately act like roving murder hobos too. The former are better equipped to deal with it long term, and I think the closer you lean towards the latter the sooner you'll go crazy. In the case of the circus members, they're stuck there with that revelation for the rest of their lives, and my view is that no one can last in that state forever, no matter how immersed they get or how much meaning they derive
>>154332909And that's because she though he was trans? how? why? What made her do that connection? The "secret" was that Jax killed his mother, that was his regret and what she told her after he totally opened up, the bow was a cute way of showing affection, you have to be clinically insane if the your interpretation of that scene was that Jax was trans
>>154332917You posted 10 seconds before I replied you sperg.
>>154332918How is being "trapped" in a computer different from being "trapped" on earth tho?I guess they could've taken longer to come to terms with it, but ragatha did say she always had a hunch dunno
>>154332918>but now they end on what feels like a state of permanent acceptance which feels like a huge jump but the finale didnt place enough importance on acceptance of their environment, so much as it placed importance on acceptance of each other and themselves, which for sure is important given how character driven the show is, but the environment/circumstance acceptance was kinda.. snuck in there at the last second you know?nta but i agree with you. very well put that was. i feel like a lot of this could've been solved with like another 30 minute run time so it could've been a feature length film of like an hour and a half
>>154332901>In fact, what's stopping caine or kinger from just going into the mind files and making new versions of the old brainscans?Ethics. But this is just retreading the Star Trek teleporter argument from decades ago
So whats the deal with everyone claiming Jax is trans? Is it because he hangs out at a gay bar?
>>154332928>>154332917not him but the implication I got was that ribbit just knew jax enough to know that he was a troony deep down. maybe her suspicions, then ribbit hears about a "final argument" that drove jax and a parent apart, and took a leap by putting the bow in jax's hair. seems fine to me
>>154332931>How is being "trapped" in a computer different from being "trapped" on earth tho?Are you serious?
>>154332928>>154332900You retards clearly forgot why Jax pushed her in the first place.
>>154332921>Her whole schtick is that she doesnt always say what she's truly thinking?i am not familar with this. how does she do this?>Then you have more in common with Ragatha than you thinkyeah thats probably true desu i think two of those kinda people dont mesh perfectly>Also you sound like a womanerrrrrrr
>>154332925i like this. thank you for showing it to me
>>154332889On the infinitesimal chance you're asking honestly and not being a fag, being a tranny is not about liking opposite-gendered stuff
>>154332945There are a lot of shockingly dumb people here. I blame autism.
>>154332931earth is the ultimate layer we would all want to get back to is my point. if a movie is about characters wanting to escape a jail cell but then end just accepting being in there, i dont want to hear that the cell is a metaphor for earth when the rest of the earth still fuckin exists in that fictional universe.
>>154332931Before you are told you are a copy of yourself, the difference is that you are concerned about your body. Is it safe? Will it get too hot or cold? Can it piss and shit and breathe? Will it starve or die of thirst?After you are told you are a copy of yourself, the difference is that now you have to deal with reality that "you" are not "yourself" anymore. Whatever reality you're experiencing is not true reality.Both are good psychological horror topics to delve into in their own rights, but of course we got none of that.
>>154332925i would watch a S2 with pic related happening def.
>>154332941There is no way you can conjure that up without going to social media first , I swear to God everyone is just pretending they knew from the start Jax was trans only after Goose posted that dumb tweet
>>154332928reminder>Everything now has a double meaning>One is the obvious one that a sane non-trans person would see.>The other is some esoteric mental gymnastics that only make sense in the context of a Bsky post>The tranny acts like it's the most obvious thing in the world and that the normal obvious one is insane.
>>154332952..did you watch the series? Gangle literally says in ep4 that its hard for her to see what Ragatha was truly thinking. And in that same episode the whole bit with the stupid sauce is that ragatha being drunk on it allows her to express her subsconscious thoughts out loud instead of hiding it all the time
ugh stop over intellectualizing everything i wanna see shipping in this thread omfg
>>154332939>Ethics.There are no ethics here, the digital circus denizens are all AI.>>154332907>infine ragathaNow we are talking.
>>154332963>Whatever reality you're experiencing is not true reality.So what?
>>154332946Jax pushed his mother because she was insulting him, one of the insults was that he wasn't masculine enough like his father. Goose answer to that kind of abuse is that you don't have to accept that makes can be feminine too, but that you have to become a woman.
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>>154332889Because they arent, thats like assuming every gay dude is some flamboyent flaming queer. If you actually met anyone mtf you would know they just feel internally like they're women, there are plenty who dress butch along with plenty who dress fem. You see a lot of femmy fashion from people first transitioning just because its a way for them to explore what they liket. Bifag who dated mulitple trans partners.
I hate that fandom infighting over really basic and obvious shit is because 60% of the fanbase are teenagers who subtext if it shot them in the face.
>>154332941Jax was insecure about his masculinity because of bad upbringing, doesn't automatically make him trans, only an insane person would think that, Jax was the fruity/femboy/crossdresser or the fandom for a reason, before goose ruined everything.
How about an adventure where we.... Shove all of our cocks down Caine's throat... and cum on his eyeballs...
>>154332937yeah i agree i think it all just needed more time. the finale did have some kino moments tho, jax's sendoff into the music number which doubled as an essential confirmation of his identity (regardless of my feelings about tranny shit) was absolutely fantastic from a directorial standpoint. i didnt realize how recognizable the digital circus strings were until i heard them in the cover of that song. fun stuff
>>154332972ohhhh i remember now. sorry i guess i blanked on that. idk. ragatha always just bugged me the wrong way. maybe too similar to me. ur tuff tho anon. i like the way u type the ... before the did u watch the series was nice and how u like pulled up all this tadc stuff on me from ur head was impressive. i didnt remember until u told me
>fag is censored but not gay because caine probably chooses to interpret gay in its archaic definition because "why would anyone not be happy?"
>>154332945>oh nooo I'm in computer world instead of regular world oh noooSo what
>>154332958Not what I got from this show, one of my few exposition to trans stuff, so enlighten me, because to me trans women are just males that like dressing girly and got convinced that they have to be a girl to do that, and trans men are tomboys that went too far.
>>154332988Were you not young yourself once anon, confidently posting dumb shit on the internet for all to see?
>>154332994he'd chomp ur dick off
>>154333003Are you stupid?
>>154333010Hot
>>154332977So... it would drive you insane. It's literally horror beyond your comprehension. How can you possibly begin to find stability when nothing is grounded in reality anymore? Once the unknowable is known, there's no going back..
>>154332971based retard
>>154333020>oh ahhhh the horror of... existing somewhere else????Why is it so heccin scary?
>>154332971Those people even have the courage of saying they have media literacy
>>154332971It must rule to be retarded, being perplexed and mystified by the most basic things. People like you get surprised the sun comes up every day.
Goooood morning people who were never JaxfagsJust a reminder that you won and will never be a Jaxfag
>>154332999>jax's sendoff into the music number omg that scene was so sad. i thought like she was gonna save jax with the hug and jax would come out with like abstraction scars but then they pulled pomni out i was so pmoed. and the SOUNDTRACK. i was literally crying listening to "your new life v2" speaking of which i really hope they release the soundtrack cuz the like one that ppl made is kinda weird cuz when they remove the people talking so u cna hear the music it distorts it a lot.>i didnt realize how recognizable the digital circus strings were until i heard them in the cover of that songik i remember thinking like when i first watched the show how amazing the song was that they played at the ending of the pilot when it creshendos. peak
Imagine beating and torturing Ragatha. Imagine psychologically breaking her, humiliating and degrading her in every possible way. Imagine pushing her to abstract. But just as she is about to abstract you tell her that this is the 100th copy of her that you have done this too. And that once she abstracts, the cycle will repeat. You will copy her file, a new Ragatha will be brought into the hell you created and it will all repeat. Just imagine the look of terror and despair on her face. Just imagine, as she realizes that her existence and the existences of all Ragathas onward is to be abused and tortured by *you.*
JAX IS NOT TRANS HE IS A 2014 4CHAN TROLL
>>154332823Because trannies are obsessed with making their community bigger, you don't see this type of behaviour from gays or lesbians if anything they even do some gatekeeping from time to time
>>154332984And what does feeling internally like a woman when society is going everything to remove the barrier between woman and man? I'm being genuine. If the correct idea is that man and woman are equal and we should strive for a society where man are ok with wearing dresses and woman working in oil drilling, what's the point of transitioning.
>>154332994rape tranny jax for being an asshole to everyone for so long
>>154333045Most of those trolls turned out gay or trans
i regret getting into this show
>>154333045he's both
>>154333008Trannies are dysphoric first and foremost, the clothes are usually secondary as >>154332984 mentioned
For a while I thought the existential horror in the Gummigoo episode was lubing the audience up for the eventual brain scan reveal but now in retrospect that was done so the finale didn't have to focus on the existential horror the main cast would face now that they know it's true for them too and that's a shame.
>Jax fucking goes insane and functionally dies and in exchange the rest of the cast get to have Caine for the rest of timeI gotta admit, Goose has balls for it. In a way everyone got what they wanted. Pomni and the Gang finally find peace in the Circus and Jax gets to reunite with his friends and swim forever in the dark void free of judgement because none of them can think anymore.
>>154333031Your body is no longer in "your" control. You have no way to get back into it. You have no way to get back to the real world. Wouldn't that concern you just a little bit?
>>154333057Wasted potential - the show
>>154333043So glad goose threw away the entire kane&able + I have no mouth plotline to make a 40 minute segment about being trans for a character that isn't feminine at all.
>>154333048>what's the point of transitioning.Societal acceptance and affirmation that you are identifying how your brain wants you to identify as.If everyone just started calling you she/her or whatever pronouns you didnt go by, wouldnt it wear on you? Its like that, things to be more comfortable in your own skin.
>>154333066But I'm not the guy outside, I'm a copy of his brain in a virtual world (I am also virtual)
>>154332823It's a cult, once you're in your entire life revolves around defending the cult and recruiting new members
>>154333057Actually on second thought the situation of the main cast is actually worse than Gummigoo since they know for fact their histories weren't made up for the sake of an adventure, they're never seeing the people they loved and cared about on the outside ever again.
>>154333038>It must rule to be retarded, being perplexed and mystified by the most basic things>>The tranny acts like it's the most obvious thing in the world and that the normal obvious one is insane.Legitimate poetry.
>>154333020>HAHA! YOU'RE NOT THE REAL YOU! YOU'RE IN A COMPUTER SIMULATION!Damn, that's kind of a bummer I guess. So what's there to do around here?>WE ALL JUST HANG OUT AND MEET UP FOR ROLEPLAY ADVENTURES A COUPLE TIMES A WEEK OR JUST SIT AROUND THE TENT AND CHILL WITH OUR FRIENDS!Oh, that sounds nice.>EXCEPT IT'S NOT REAL SO IT'S LITERALLY HORROR BEYOND YOUR COMPREHENSION!!1!Meh
>>154333045>JAX IS NOT TRANS HE IS A 2014 4CHAN TROLLSo...trans?
>>154333031Dude have you ever wondered why you wake up from a dream the moment you become lucid, and one of the recurring fears lucid dreamers have is remaining stuck in the dream world?
>>154333057Its actually insane that gummigoo had a more human reaction to being an AI than the actual humans
How come that line about Caine being afraid of mixing up NPCs with """""humans""""" never went anywhere?
>>154333066What do you think the afterlife is? In most versions you lose your body with no way to get back to the real world and you spend the rest of eternity doing whatever you want with the people you love.
I cried.Not sob or breakdown.I let my tears fall.
>>154333081that was so auraful anon. i really like how u wrote that
>>154333069So it is all about societal norms, the moment being called she/her or he/him wouldn't carry a social weight trans people would stop existing, correct? So trans people are empowering a system the other progressive people are trying to move past.
>>154332966>>154332992if you are essentially trapped in solitary confinement for who knows how long with someone, you can probably begin to intuit things about them that they really havnt resolved, or you can feel out what seems to bother them a lot. these things slip out all the time. the nigga thought putting on a dress was the funniest shit and thats NEVER a joke when you do that as a guy. you guys probably let your insecurities slip to friends all the time without even realizing it. we didnt need a clip show of every time jax "revealed the cracks in his le egg" this all pains me to write btw because i hate trannies but im defending this writing here. if you intuit someone hasnt come out of the closet yet, and they tell you their tragic backstory was a big fight with a parent over... somethingyou kinda put 2 and 2 together u know. sure it was a large chance for the character to take, but it doesnt feel like some impossible mind read.
>>154333084>Dude have you ever wondered why you wake up from a dream the moment you become lucidNo>and one of the recurring fears lucid dreamers have is remaining stuck in the dream world?Why? What's so scary about living in another world? Is getting isekai'd this general's worst nightmare or something?
>>154333095I think in retrospect the idea was that it implied he doesn't have access to the brainscan folder (or the system in general) anymore so if he accidentally deleted a human he wouldn't be able to bring them back.
>>154333084>Dude have you ever wondered why you wake up from a dream the moment you become lucidI've had 4 lucid dreams and this is false.>one of the recurring fears lucid dreamers have is remaining stuck in the dream world?Can't say I've ever been afraid of that. You realize you get god powers in a lucid dream, right? Reality bends to your will. It's like the most satisfying power trip imaginable.
>>154333045yeah man just like that onlyafro guy who totally wore a dress as a joke uh huh yeah yup
>>154333114>i hate tranniest. tranny
>>154333002You sound like you're high
>>154333114Ribbit somehow managed to understand Jax was trans with no clues but nobody realized Kinger was sane in the dark atter spending years with him?
When the faggot word got censored, it had a special Jax themed censor bar.
>>154333113I said societal acceptance, not societal norms, I just used pronouns as an example because thats one example of societal acceptance. Trans people existed in cultures with different pronouns than ours in western society so thats not the deciding factor. Not sure if you're ESL or just giving up but if you're actually curious you should look into this on your own.
i love how all of u chuds think your slick with your oh the show is so shit it became gay and trans when the show wasn't explicity queer tumblr slop from the beginning and created by a literal tranny.
>>154333147It also had the normal sensor sound instead of a cartoony noise
>>154333141im not high im happy. i like this show and theres a lot of cool people here to talk about it. sorry. also i just didnt really think a lot about ragatha so i didnt remember. thats not me being high thats just me not caring a lot about a character
>>154333155god forbid people expect a tranny to not trannyfy everything
>>154333145Forgive them for being retarded. Ragatha had an inkling, but she is also exceptionally retarded
>>154333098The biggest difference in that concept is that you're dead, you know you're dead, and most importantly you are still you. In this case it'd be like God made a clerical error and you get transported to the afterlife, but you can see through a one way mirror your old self still alive and none the wiser. And instead of all your loved ones there with you, there's a tranny.
>>154333155These threads had lots of coping and lots of "goose is one of the good ones" for quite some time. Hence all the mindbroken posters now.
>>154333145>with no cluesShe actually had a lot of clues. Even if she literally only knew he ran away from home and became homeless, that would be significant evidence towards him being trans.
holy shit i've been reading funnybunny fics since 2024
>>154333174>trans is when being homeless
>>154333152From what you're telling me trans people exists only because humans are expected to behave in different ways based on their gender, some people feel like they "belong" to the other gender and transition, but if in the perfect society noone has expectations based on gender, then trans people shouldn't exist.
>>154333165Pretty much this, didnt know who the creator was until I was halfway through the seriesWas genuinely surprised a tranny made something that wasn't about being a tranny, but then he ofc had to follow his basic culture orders and try and normalise his self mutilation
>>154333155I expected goose to be different, dumb of me I know
>>154333171he sounds like a repper. i hope hes ok. the ending really emotionally effected me too but for different reasons.
>>154333176Anon if someome were to say "I told my parental figure something deeply personal and they mocked and abused me about it so I ran away" you would naturally assume they told their parental figure they were lgbtq. A big chunk of homeless kids are queers who run away from unsupportive homes.
>>154333163Oh okay. Was I able to change your perspective on her a little bit? Sorry if I came off as a little defensive.
>>154333189i mean it was kinda hinted in the beginning and they already had a nonbinary character. but yeah. i feel bad for the non trannies. having like half the finale dedicated to a suicidal tranny when ur not one urself sounds miserable.
Pretty sure the ending is a parable for learning to accept yourself and let other people accept you instead of pushing them away.
>>154333204It was but goose changed it to being about the trans experience
>>154333198its ok. u didnt come off as defensive. u did change my perspective. i remember now that stuff about ragatha. ig i always was just picturing her as the comforter person who just helps people all the time but i think theres more depth. i think maybe theres just something wrong with me where i need to be friends with broken people. idk. i like talking to you tho :)
>>154333171I understand all those people crying about good representation in media now, when for the sake of representation they assassinated a character I felt represented with.
>>154333200I'm also not a purple rabbit living in a digital circus, why should it be a big deal that he's trans on top of that
>>154333204No it's actually an advertisement for cross sex hormones
>>154333145i dunno its possible kingers sanity in the dark was an "over-time" thing. i mean that might just necessarily be the case because kinger never attempted an earlier escape that we know of soo
>>154333207that experience and the tranny experience are very similar. or the repping experience more like
>>154332676one of the circus members should have been a dog with a fat cookie I think that would have been hot
>>154333192You're doing absurd amount of mental gymnastics to justify shitty writing. I would be ok with Jax being trans if it made sense in the story, at the moment it's only because the author made a troll post the community took seriously.
>>154333140u wish
>>154333204Yeah its almost like we see that with Caine finding the forgiveness, understanding and acceptance Jax would have also been given if he had only shown himself some grace and opened up once more to trusting others. Bittersweet but still optimistic, especially since there is still hope for real Jax. Its not particularly complicated so I dont understand why so many anons are filtered by it unless they just wanted a different story entirely.
>>154333208Oh well cool. Yeah, i liked how you asked questions and examples politely, not something i usually see when i discuss things with people
>>154333211idk i was just tryna relate to the ppl who didnt like the ending. i can understand why even if i liked it
>>154333204It would have been if the lesson Jax learned was that it's ok to be a male and like girl stuff and there'sno need to be insecure about it, but instead goose made it about being trans
>>154333219pomni farting in the last pannel
>>154332676This show is highly satanic because it was made by a trannysexualised
>>154333204This guy gets it.
>>154333225Its not my fault you lack thinking skills and assume Jax being trans is a troll from goose. What "deeply personal secret that my parental figure mocked and yelled at me about" would you think fits better for the crossdressing rabbit than being lgbtq?
>>154333226it was just so funny. it PAINS me to say this cuz i HATE trannies. and then u defended us.
>>154332758>okay but how do I know you have a real consciousnessYou don't
>>154333236>>154333207Jax being a closeted trans person is the crux of her character.
>3 days since the finale>trannies are still here recruiting peopleHas anyone seen any of the regulars or content creators since?
>>154333236Brother just play Persona 4
>>154333204Jax looked like a comically worst case scenario for me. His downfall looked inevitable instead of preventable and that's really my issue with how Jax was written, Goose couldn't fully lean on if we are seeing something we cannot stop no matter what or something that could be dealt with but didn't
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>>154333200That wouldn't have been a problem if they were upfront about it. The problem is that it feels like we were lied to. If Jax was trans from the start, at least all of the hyper subtle hints would add up. Here it's like reading a mystery novel where all the evidence points to one suspect but on the last page the author reveals that no actually it's this other guy because of this new detail which redefines what all the evidence means. That just makes you feel like you wasted your time, and it doesn't help that on top of that a bunch of people rub it in like "how did you not realize it was this way from the start?"
Burger > Sex
>>154333266hi
>>154333245>deeply personal secret that my parental figure mocked and yelled at me aboutYou're distorting what Jax told ribbit to fit your narrative. Jax told ribbit he insulted his mother using personal insults towards her, and instead of getting angry she hugged him, go rewatch the episode idiot. The only "clue" about Jax being trans is that he tells ribbit his mother used to compare him with his father, saying that either he wasn't as masculine as him, or that he was just like him when he crashed out. And in no way that's enough to mean he was trans, while also explaining his "weird" behavior with the maid dress, feminine boys that get bullied even by their parents exists. Making him trans was and oversimplification of his character and a mistake in so many levels.
>>154333204Yes and?
>>154333255It became that only retroactively after that post and made him a much less interesting character in return.
>>154333273I think at some point it was potentially salvageable but the double whammy of the escape being fake and Caine getting deleted + brain scans reveal drove Jax over the edge. Pomni was able to pull him out of his initial abstraction and I think he was so mentally vulnerable at that moment that she got swept up by Pomni truly believing they could leave.
NANI????? K-Kaufmo-san, you're saying that I should CHERISH Ribbit and treat her with RESPECT and DIGNITY?! That we should act as EQUALS in our relationship??? According to you, my cuckold fantasies are not only SICK DELUSIONS, but they aren't even REMOTELY considerate of her feelings!!?? She doesn't WANT to be DEFILED for my HUMILIATION!!?! N-not only that, but if I continue to view her as an OBJECT to be ABUSED by others, our bond might DEGRADE to the point of IRREVERSIBLE harm!?!?! It's your opinion that marriage is SACRED, and that we should stay EXCLUSIVE until DEATH DO US PART??!! That it's the LEAST I could do to ensure neither of us ABSTRACT!!?!! On top of all that, everyone I know thinks it's DISGUSTING, but they're too polite to INFORM ME???!!! And you're telling me all this now because you're CONCERNED for my MENTAL HEALTH and WELLBEING?????........WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU!??! NEVER SPEAK TO ME AGAIN FOR AS LONG AS YOU LIVE!!!!!!!!!! I'M YABBA DABBA DONE WITH OUR FRIENDSHIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>154333176>trans is when being homeless40% of homeless youths are queer and among queer homeless youths the majority are trans.I said significant evidence. I didn't say hard proof. It literally significantly multiplies the odds he's trans and almost makes it a coinflip that he's at least queer.
>if you have no dad and your mom mocks you, you are transalternatively>if you have no dad and your mom mocks you, you become transEither way, odd message
>>154333285You are either pretending to be retarded or you didnt watch the scene. He told his mom something deeply personal and she went off on him about it and thats what triggered the hug and then the shove. Fucking embarrassing dude.
>>154333290I think you could very easily make a reading of Jax as trans even if you never saw that post.
>>154333278thats a very good point anon. tho is all the evidence pointing to one person but on the last page its someone else is that refering to someone in the show or am i just reading too much into it.>"how did you not realize it was this way from the start?"yeah desu theres no way a casual viewer could reasonably come to that conclusion. it was all too subtle which goose said she wanted to do but it seemed to be at its detriment
>>154333278>how did you not realize it was this way from the start?"I swear they do it just to appear smart because nobody truly believed Jax was trans before episode 9, it was a fringe theory like many others and some that held it even just believed he was transmasc
>>154333304People have been calling Jax an egg for ages so you're right.
>>154333277is very kissable
>>154333309>People
>>154333304No you couldn't, it wouldn't have become such a big discussion otherwise
>>154333312People clearly smarter than you
>>154333304Yeah bro that's why goose had to have melties on troonsky or whatever about it before people were sure
>>154333304Jax was the community douche femboy AT MOST, people that called him trans wrlere few and considered crazy
>>154333281I love Pom Pom.
>>154333309Trannies call literally everything an egg because they want to groom people into joining the cult
>>154333327Invading personal space and misgendering is fine if they do it
>>154332823>Here's the thing I'll never understand about trannies. Society is doing a lot of work to move past gender normsGender norms are not bad, nor are they indicative of gender yes.>trying to push the idea that's it's ok for a girl to like masculine stuff and vice versa, then trannies come along and say "you're a guy that likes pink? Then you're a girl!"Transwomen see themselves as women, whether they like masculine or feminine things is irrespective of that. Jax happens to be a transwoman that likes feminine things. Jax is not a man, gender norms and preferred expression is not the same as gender.Woman should be able to like masculine things just as much as they should be able to like feminine things, transwomen can like feminine things while still being women, transmen can like feminine things while still being men.This doesn't mean gender stereotypes should or need to go away since there are good gender stereotypes, this also does not mean transwomen should just be men that like feminine things.
>>154333292then people saying he had his chances was really only speaking based on hindsight and not much understanding was made in regards to his mental mindscape
The Amazing Digital Meme Format
>>154333340mp(r)eg?
>>154333337>this also does not mean transwomen should just be men that like feminine thingsThen why are they and why do they treat this as the case?
>>154333337>This doesn't mean gender stereotypes should or need to go away since there are good gender stereotypes,This goes against what progressive people have been trying to do the past 100 years, they accepted a Trojan horse in their house for the sake of inclusivity
The leaks made it sound way worse than it turned out. Thought Jax was going to be revealed as a sociopath who intentionally murdered his mom and caused two other players to abstract
>>154333305>is that refering to someone in the show or am i just reading too much into it.No that's just my analogy for the bait and switched the creator pulled. In the actual show's case you have 9 very detailed episodes building up one idea, with exposition that supported that one idea. Then at the end you get the rug pulled out from under you and are gaslit that every piece of evidence for the idea was actually completely unrelated. It's an insult to the viewer's intelligence. Every single episode, I would look through the comments and see people pointing out small little details. If you have an audience so invested in your show that they're pouring over each shot you would think that they would be able to figure it out. Except no one did, and it had to come from a Bluesky post after the fact.
>>154333343They dont
>>154333248i only have 2 feelings about trannoidism-its like kinda real-but its also a social contagion, so dont constantly put it in front of young people (which is why i have some mixed feelings about jax essentially being egg-cracking agp-fetish maid outfit bait in a show with a massive teenage audience) but then again there has probably been at least one case of genuine gender dysphoria and there is probably been at least one fella who felt better about it by putting on a dress, so a character based around that doesnt bother me that much, but its just all a bit of an info-hazard for young people and i wish we were more honest about that.
>>154333337What's the point of identifying as a different gender if you should be able to be and do whatever you want regardless of your gender
The damage Jax did to the trans movement is incalculable.
>>154333348>active denial of realityAnd there it is
>>154333283Stay strong fishbroThey'll flock to the next thing for validation soon
>>154333361>"This is going to hurt your cause." - person who hates your cause
>>154333236i think people would be really really really really mad at a modern naoto/fujisaki type character
>if you're a bit of a sissy loser... become trans!I've seen this happen to like 6 guys I know and it's hilarious to see this as a message
>>154333347everyone here is so goddamn articulate. thats very well put anon. i understand your point exactly.>Except no one did, and it had to come from a Bluesky post after the fact.like if ppl are still confusd after spending so much time on it u probably didnt do an amazing job. they should've hinted it more earlier on.
>C’MON HONEY PUSH! PUSH! YOU CAN DO THIS! I CAN’T WAIT TO SEE THAT BEAUTIFUL FROG FACE LOOKING AT ME!>C’MON! YES! YES! I CAN SEE IT! YABBA DABBA...?>...>what>What?>WHAT. IN. TARNATION!*Smashes camera replaying Kinger, Kaufmo, Scratch, Caine, Ribbit, Jonesy and Pomni's sex session against a wall in fit of anger*>BY ALL ABSTRACTIONS!!! THIS IS A BABY BUNNY! WHAT THE FUCK! YOU BITCH! YOU LYING FUCKING CLOWN CUNT THIS IS A FULL BABY BUNNY WHAT THE FUCK HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE YOU WERE ONLY SUPPOSED TO SLEEP WITH MY BVLLS!?>OH MY LILITH! YOU SCOOPED UP SOME OF MY CUM?! BECAUSE YOU WANTED A CHILD WITH THE M*N YOU LOVE? YOU CUM STEALING, LOVING CUNT!! I KNEW I SHOULD HAVE LET GUMMIGOO GIVE ME THAT VASECTOMY! I THOUGHT IT WAS SUSPICIOUS THAT YOU ARGUED AGAINST IT BUT I FIGURED IT WAS FINE BECAUSE I WAS NEVER GOING TO HAVE SEX WITH YOU!! I NEVER THOUGHT YOU’D STAB ME IN THE BACK LIKE THIS!>WHAT DID I TELL YOU LAST YEAR AT THE KEKOLD CONTEST?! I'M THE MOTHERFUCKING CHAMP! HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO BE THE KEK TRANSQVEEN OF MASCULINITY IF MY FAITHFUL, LOVING CUNT GIRLFRIEND POPPED A FUCKING LAUGHING BOUNCING PURPLE BABY BUNNY OUT OF HER CUNT!!!>STIFFEN THE WOMBATS, I’M RUINED!!! YOU’VE RUINED ME YOU STUPID TWAT!!! MY GIRLFRIEND GAVE BIRTH TO MY BABY!!! AND HE'S GOT MY SMILE TOO!!! IF HE HAD DREADS I COULD AT LEAST PRETEND IT WAS RAGATHA'S BUT I CANT DO THAT WITH A SMILING BABY BUNNY NOW CAN I??? IM GONNA BE THE LAUGHINGSTOCK OF THE KEKOLD COMMUNITY NOW!!! THEY'RE GONNA THINK IM A FUCKING BACKBONED BULL NOW! THIS IS THE WORST DAY OF MY LIFE!>GIVE ME THAT BABY RIGHT NOW IM GONNA ABSTRACT ITS NECK! I’M GONNA SHRED THAT BABYS FUCKING SKULL LIKE I DID MY BIGOTED CHUD MOTHER'S! GIVE IT TO ME YOU LYING FAITHFUL CUNT OR ILL PROGRAM YOU A NEW HOLE IN YOUR FUCKING THROAT!!! GIVE IT TO ME YOU BITCH GIVE IT GIVE IT GIVE IT!!!! BY ALL THE DIY ESTROGEN RIBBIT GAVE ME I'M GOING TO FUCKING KILL IT!>I AM SUCH AN ANGRY KEEEEEEEEE-AAAAAAACCCCCCCK!!!!!!!!!
>>154333366I mean you're just telling on yourself that you dont know what you're talking about and aren't interested in learning, no need to spend time debating about it.
>>154333204yeah no shishexcept they are still in hell
>>154333361I genuinely wonder how many people ended up thinking "hey, maybe they're not ALL bad" and now have double down because it turns out yes they are ALL bad and you felt foolish for doubting yourself
>>154333369
>>154333367im a tranny and ive been watching since day 1 bro #notallofus #iamspecial
>>154333337Ok so, if the point to becoming trans is to feel better, be abuse in your mind your body doesn't reflect what you're supposed to be, and that image of what you're supposed to be is caused by gender stereotypes, norms and whatever you want to call them, the way to fix trans people is to just remove gender norms so they don't feel the need to change gender,, because then the image in their mind that they're supposed to be a girl or boy won't exists anymore.
>>154333343They aren't, they're transwomen. Jax had gender dysphoria, he did not see himself as a man in the same way goose does not see himself as a man even if he uses he/she pronouns.>>154333344Irrelevant to what I said, gender stereotypes are good objectively. Things like women being emotionally available and men being protectors are good stereotypes. This doesn't mean the opposite group can't accept those stereotypes obviously.>>154333355Because there are a group of people who feel a deeper connection to being the opposite gender. Being a man is not just wearing pants just as much as being a girl is not just wearing skirts to them. That doesn't mean gender expression or stereotypes are irrelevant, it just means there're a group of people that have tangible connections to their gender.
>>154333376holy fucking gempost this is amazing anon
The threads went to shit, not because of trannies, but because of people obsessed with trannies.
>>154333372Why, feels more inclusive and a better message to me than a straight up trans that killed themselves
>>154333374regardless of how well done it all was, yeah im a bit annoyed at how it all came across like a bizarre "i get to crack someone's egg!" wish fulfilment thing to me
>>154333361They already damaged their own movement
>>154333391Because it is
>>154333388>people obsessed with trannies.Ragatha posters?
>>154333394Conservatives are experiencing a complete cultural collapse so trannies still won
>>154333388>do not talk about trannies>posted in the thread for the show about the trans experience
>>154333352>-but its also a social contagion, so dont constantly put it in front of young peoplebut like young ppl not knowing about it is what causes like the faketrans non genuine ppl u dont like. like i got hrt at 14 bc of tranny media and bc i was aware it was an option.>which is why i have some mixed feelings about jax essentially being egg-cracking agp-fetish maid outfit bait in a show with a massive teenage audience) i am in slight agreement with this point idk how amazing of a repersentation and influence he is to that massive child audience. also like lowkey anon. u sound hot. like ur just so. cool. idk im being so genuine. the way u type and stuff. i bet ur really charming and funny in real life
>>154333399We're obsessed with the world's most beautiful ragdoll, ackshully.
>>154333408Who may or may not be afab
>>154333407Wierd larp
>>154333383This just doesn't make sense, I assume you're trying to do a counter to the "gender is a social construct" argument, but gender as experience by sapient humans is a form of qualia, if not strictly qualia.It is an inherent feeling tied to social and physical(secondary sex) characteristics.There's no way to remove ALL forms of gender norms or gender expression that doesn't create a totally alien society from what humans experience.As long as people exist there will be gender norms and gendered stereotypes, it's just about sifting through which stereotypes we as a society are defining and if they're being defined positively.
>>154333415She's not an autistic fucking bitch fuck you
I really believe these threads are going downhill because of trannies even though I cant substantiate any of my claims.
I just rewatched Jax's monologue with Ribbit. Line for line, it goes:>Dad never seemed proud of him, he always felt like a dissappointment and couldn't live up to his standards>Parents split up, dad leaves for good>When he showed weakness, he was less of a man than his dad>When he lashed out, he was just as bad as his dad>He felt confused by his mom's treatment of him following the split, indicates she took things out on him>Jax got fed up with his mom's treatment of him>Decides to tell her something "deep and personal" that he thought would get her off his back>She laughed at him, then went off and started degrading and insulting him>After that, she hugged him>He pushed her away too hard and killed her or at the very least knocked her outSo you're telling me, that from that explanation I'm supposed to assume that the "deep and personal" thing he told his mom was that he was trans, and not any of the following:>he's sorry for upsetting her and causing her to lash out at him>he tells her how her treatment of him makes him feel>he tells her how his dad's treatment of him made him feel>he tells her he's not going to tolerate her treatment of him anymoreAll of which are way more likely given the whole backstory he gave about his parents. And I'm the stupid one for misinterpretting that????
>>154333390ya i agree i think like 80% of trannyism is due to porn/trauma and is essentially a form of fetishism we've all become numb too unless its really obvious, 15% got tricked and desist, and 5% might be real dysphoria
>>154333423There's literally been a nonstop conversation about fucking gender, all content creators have fled and you can't figure out why the threads went to shit?
>>154333423Honestly, yeah. Everyone is talking about transsexuals now. Either for or against. Goose nuked all discussion about the show with this one move.
>can't spell ragatha without agartha
>>154333418it wasn't larp but it was a bit weird desu. sorry.
>>154333424the nigga is trans bro fucking deal with it.
>>154333424Bad writing, move on
Made a Pomni model in one of those old hentai games where you can edit the characters. Semi-limited, but I think it turned out looking alright considering what I was working with
Why did Goose write a fantasy version of herself where she tells the people who wanted to help her overcome her gender dysphoria to fuck off and ultimately drives them to suicide?
>>154333407ya i know what you mean, its difficult because the less of a social contagion you make it, the less likely people with genuine dysphoria will get help earlier on, so its tough calculation to makeand thats very nice of you, you sound like a pleasant person as well :)
Ragatha?
>woman who interprets literally any expression of femininity as weakness and failure>doesn't allow any expression of any other emotion>Jax reveals something about himself which is feminine>Obviously we're supposed to read this as literally the most extreme possible conclusion of "I want to cut my dick off" and not just "I want to be an artist" or "I want to be an actor"
>>154333337Stop saying bullshit, the point of transitioning is to be able to "pass", the moment a society develops where women are not expected to all have long hair and wear makeup and dress girly and a biological woman and man can pontially look the same trans women stop existing.
>>154333424What do you think the deeply personal secret was Jax told his mok, anon? Share it with the class.
>>154333444>>154333454So then shut the fuck up about how obvious it supposedly was
FROOG
>>154333458funny (no offense)good job anon
>>154333481That he's a fag, hear hooves you think horses not zebras
>>154333369>GoingHas.Look at all the butthurt generated.
>>154333491>I didnt think he was a queer, I thought ye was a queer!lol
>>154333278>Here it's like reading a mystery novel where all the evidence points to one suspect but on the last page the author reveals that no actually it's this other guy because of this new detail which redefines what all the evidence means.There were hints in the finale that viewers who were similarly attuned to the culture Goose was drawing from picked up on, but ultimately it does not matter because Jax's gender identity is inconsequential to the story you saw on the screen.Compare it if you will to JKR stating Dumbledore was gay; a small minority of readers picked up on it beforehand due to how his relationship with Grindelwald is depicted, but the reveal that he digs cocks has no bearing on the plot or themes
>>154333493On 4chan, longtime bastion of trans acceptance.
The ending felt like the ending of CSM to me, a whole lot of fancervice, including trans Jax so the sheep audience is content, nonsensical plot development and a lot of unanswered questions not even the author knows the answer to.
>>154333481DId you read the part of my post where I gave 4 possibilities? How about you share how you know when Ribbit says "your secret is safe with me" she's talking about the "deep and personal" thing which he never divulges but she somehow knows means he's trans, and not the detailed explanation of how he killed his mom? Go ahead and share that.
>>154333500the story is about jax beings trans though
>>154333495I don't mind fags they're nice enoughTrannies are literally some of the most off-putting people on the planet tho
>>154333477>Stop saying bullshit, the point of transitioning is to be able to "pass"Transitioning/The desire to transition does not make someone transgender. This is just a fact, otherwise reppers and boymoders like goose wouldn't be a thing. It's the incongruency that we look at.Also you're describing an alien world, there will always be differences between men and women and gendered stereotypes that's just how society works. Even if we live in a society where expectations change that won't change preferences.Some woman will prefer to have longer hair and they will still be women, and some of those women may be trans. That's how society works, humans will always express preferences.
>>154333420Isn't the point of the perfect progressive society to allow everyone to be themselves, even potentially just let cis men have boobs and what not?
>>154333506I was more of thinking JJK but yeah that works too
>>154333424>So you're telling me, that from that explanation I'm supposed to assume that the "deep and personal" thing he told his mom was that he was transthe argument with his mom didnt have to be about that for this to make sense, the thing you arent believing here is that the leap ribbit took to say "your secrets safe with me" mostly meant his backstory, but that the bow was a clue that she understood something deeper about jax. to most people, that feels reasonable giving the things the show was piling on up to that moment, even if the actual argument with his mom wasnt about that.the craziest part about all of this is that with the way the first half of your post focuses so much on all the failed masculinity stuff i with his mom i wasnt even thinking about, i thought you way more than me realized how obvious the connection was lmao
Remember those girl Jax edits back when the pilot came out?
>>154333525>Transitioning/The desire to transition does not make someone transgender.lol?
>>154333500You're correct that it doesn't affect the plot insofar as it doesn't change any outcomes, but it does change the entire "why" of it all, which has been an unfolding mystery since the start of the show. Why did he abstract? Was it because he isolated himself, was it because he couldn't handle an existence where nothing matters, was it because he misses his old friends too much? No silly, it's because he's trans! Again, it's an insult to our intelligence.
>>154333530You have to remember a lot of these anons hate trans people so they will go out of their way to ignore really obvious storytelling and writing hints.
>obvious storytelling is when you assume EVERYTHING is about being trans no matter the context
>>154333503On X/Twitter.
>>154333508>How about you share how you know when Ribbit says "your secret is safe with me" she's talking about the "deep and personal" thing which he never divulges but she somehow knows means he's trans, and not the detailed explanation of how he killed his mom? Go ahead and share that.She quite literally means both, the spoken part is about the story he just told, and the bow is the intuition about jax on a deeper level. no part of this necessitates that the argument he had with his mom was about his identity. Ribbit made an assumption, which based on Jax's response, ended up being pretty accurate.
>>154333534>Was it because he isolated himselfIt was this though, the show spelled it out for you dumbfuck
>>154333516The story is about humans who get trapped in a simulation. Throughout the show, one of those humans is an asshole who constantly pushes others away and declines sincerity. He "dies" and everyone else's lives are improved.
>>154333420The only stereotypes you can't get rid of are the the one, the biological one. Women are biologically more emotional, men more violent etc. etc. We as a society are trying to move to a point where it's considered ok for males to also be emotional for example, and to get rid of every gender norm even if they're qnd extension of biological traits, so that everyone can be free of being what they want even if they don't fit "the norm". Trans people go inherently against this type of progress because with their mental illness (caused by the harmful stereotypes) they reinforce the status quo, a born male might develop dysphoria because he's more emotional and society pressures him to become female, in the perfect society trans people don't exist because the barrier between man and female won't exist, despite the biological normal.
>>154333553lol thats a good one, even with Elon turning that place into /pol/ the reception to the finale has been mostly positive.
>>154333550how about when a character just told you a major falling out happened because he failed to live up to masculine expectations, and also they keep showing this character has some fixation with opposite gender expression, then we are shown the character who intuited this about him had spent what was essentially solitary confinement with him for an undisclosed amount of time.
>>154333530>>154333554If I told someone that I felt like a failure compared to my dad and that my mom started treating me poorly after my parents got divored, and their response was to call me transgender that would be the most outrageous thing ever. The amount of gaslighting to try and bend plot and dialog to fit a retcon is unbelievable.
>>154333542the crazy thing is that I ALSO HATE TRANNIES, its just that this piece of the story feels obvious to me.
>>154333576>if you have issues with masculinity you're trans>if you're insecure you're trans>if you don't like wearing a dress you're trans>if you have a deep emotional talk with a girl you're trans>if said girl gives you a gift you're transWhat ISN'T trans?
>>154333533Are you retarded? if I forcibly transition donald trump does that mean he was always a tranny? obviously not, so the act of transitioning has nothing to do with being a tranny. Nor does the desire to transition.>>154333526I don't know what a "perfect progressive society" should be, if you ask me should cis men be able to have boobs? I mean if they want? do I think a large majority of cis men will want boobs? probably not.
>>154333578Except the character wasnt you, it was Jax, and Jax was transgender
>>154333534>Why did he abstract? Was it because he isolated himself, was it because he couldn't handle an existence where nothing matters, was it because he misses his old friends too much?Yes you dingus. He got hit with the brain scan reveal on top of living with the guilt of fucking up Ribbit and Kaufmo, and that's on top of the fact that his "real" self may be wanted for murder and now there aren't any adventures to dissociate into
>>154333578you are leaving out that the poor treatment was framed specifically as not being masculine enough, then the character was shown to fuck around with dresses a bunchgoddamn this really isnt that much of a leap and you're making me sound like i stick up for trannies DAMN YE, BOY
>>154333590The root of jax's problems deep down is that he is a closeted transThat's what goose wroteHe only ever acted like he did and started this spiral because he is a closeted transThe show is about jax being trans
Why does Goose find head drilling hot?
wondering about the demographic of this thread. please answer. thx.https://strawpoll.com/NPgxeXXwoZ2
>>154333585if as a man, you have masculinity issues and u fuck around with wearing dresses, yeah u literally might be a tranny lmao, how is this even an argument right now
>>154333583Its almost like bigotry is a mental problem that actively makes people dumber. Personally I'd do some soul searching if I was surrounded by people as stupid as this who share my values.
i think at some point the cast is going to get fed up of each other because of the inherent isolation of the circus. Bringing in new people is something idk Caine is capable of anymore and if the cast is okay with it then it just shows moral decay.
Jax being trans is only obvious if you're the type to go "holy shit look how he drank water he's such a freaking egg he's so trans" and insane jumps in logic like that
>no oc anchorWhatevs, have Pom Pom.
>>154333585>What ISN'T trans?Taking estrogen
>>154333596there's a lot of things people find hot i will never understand like vore feels more claustrophobic to me than hot or comforting but some people really wanna jerk off inside a stomach or maybe they just want to be dissolved by stomach acid and its more of a death fetish i dont fuckin know
Goose had this saved in her favorite fanart folder btw.
>>154333606They can just make NPCs to populate the world, they're all fake anyway
>>154333608Cute clown
>>154333592I literally just went back and rewatched it, that's all he said essentially line for line. And even if the dress shit was true that all happened after Ribbit died. Your lazy gaslighting isn't going to work.
>>154333606i thought about this myself, like eventually they'd snap and lure people in, or go phantom dust style and just make a city with fake people to avoid going insane
>>154333606Nah it's gonna be like 17776 where humans, freed from mortality, can spend 100 years doing the same inane shit
>>154333599thought there'd be more troons icl
>>154333562>The only stereotypes you can't get rid of are the the onemen and women will always express some form of preference or some form of outgroup, you can not get rid of this socially or physically. This is just a factual statement regardless of secondary sex characteristics men and women, the two extremes of gender, will express preferences in society.>Women are biologically more emotional, men more violentthis is really funny because you say women are more emotional and then say men are more violent, is there just no emotion involved in being violent lmao?>in the perfect society trans people don't exist because the barrier between man and female won't exist, despite the biological normal.What you're describing is not feasible nor does it really have anything to do with transgender people, you're describing a society where no one expresses preferences based on gender which goes against basic human development.It's agnostic to the existence of transgender people because even in such a society what you're removing is the concept of gender expression, not the concept of gender itself.
>>154333606The entire cast got along when Jax wasn't fucking everything up, smooth sailing now that he killed himself AND they got their genitals back
>>154333613>>154333627deep down they know the NPCs are faker then they are, if they truly removed the lines between NPCs and real people then it's the sign that they've lost their humanity in full making them like Jax but without the asshole part
>>154333618Thanks!I already posted picrel, but I think the image limit can weather a few reposts >c0
>>154333635Anon only like 8 people responded
>>154333596I, for one, find this kind of hot.
>>154333592Outsider to your conversation, but when Jax expressed that and I thought back to his reaction to Gangle putting him in a dress, my first thought wasn't that he was trans. It was a guy deeply traumatized by the way his parents treated him, who now has a very fragile image of himself and his masculinity and getting angry beyond all sense when that gets mocked which dredges up all sorts of uncomfortable traumas and memories because of it. That's still a fair read to make regardless of if he's trans or not, but I don't think it's unfair to say trans isn't necessarily someone's first thought when they're connecting the dots to why he was so upset about that moment.
>>154333639Eh yeah but what can you do
>>154333607sure it did feel like some weird wish fulfilment on goose's part, but thats literally part of the reason it felt obvious in the context of the story. it was intentional.
>>154333592I thought pretty much this too >>154333646 since I don't go TRANS?? TRANS?? at every shadow
Where are the regullaarrrs i cant take these people babbling about shit no one fucking cares about
>>154333656Tourists crawl at night, I literally stayed up till 5 am last night arguing with them.
>>154333643SHUT UP!
They lived happily ever after, but people seem to forget what happens when you just have nothing but free time and eternity ahead of you.
>>154333665>SHUT UP!https://youtu.be/bF5qjdeZuGE?si=UMBPDncotlcKnYr4&t=3
>>154333656The tranny brigade is out in force trying to foist their mental illness on us all
>>154333664I know but some regular people are here during the night thanks to timezones, like that German femanon
post that gif of pomni's boyfriend
>>154333668it will be like the good place. when they're done with eternity they'll step into a doorway and be deleted peacefully...
>>154333673the 2000s parody anime style combined with real life is really funny. thank u for showing this to me
>>154333608maybe after the tourists fuck off, anyways i posted my OC at tumblr meanwhile.
would you still hate jax's plot if he was revealed to be a repressed furry instead of transgender?
>>154332806Bubble jiggle physics
>>154333688Whos your oc? Im collageanon :)
>>154333689YIFF IN HELLINHELL
>>154333622the point about the dress stuff isnt that he wore a dress around ribbit and kaufmo and all those earlier people, its that we were shown his shell eventually gives around people. we dont need to see every second of his older crew interactions to know other moments like that likely happened. also why'd u lie, the real line is:>When I showed weakness, I was less of a man than him. When I lashed out, I was just as bad as himnote the specific use of "less of a man" in the first half, but "just as bad" in the latter half. its not being called toxic masculinity in the second part or that jax was being too alpha. initially, there is a focus on the "less of a man" part where as "just as bad" seems to zoom out more to his negative traits and uses language less associated with being or not being "a man" about stuff. there's another line before that u missed:>He never seemed proud of me, and I -- I always felt like a disappointment to him. Like I could never live up to his standards.I feel like u gotta be shutting your ears to not make the very obvious connection with all of this stuffyes it is literally a cringe egg cracking thing, but thats the reason this all feels so obvious to me damn ye boy you have me writing essays that trans youtubers are going to steal
>>154333637>this is really funny because you say women are more emotional and then say men are more violent, is there just no emotion involved in being violent lmao?It's just a stupid example but there are inherent behavioral differences between make and female, that's just a scientific fact we can agree on, right? And some of the current gender stereotypes are based on those biological differences, what I was trying to say is that in the perfect society envioned by progressive groups, even if the majority of men would act a certain way, and women another way because biology, it would be 100% accepted for people to act even outside of the majority with out feeling insecure. For example someone like Jax would not get bullied for acting "girlish", he would not feel insecure while wearing maid suit, or wear a wig and makeup, so what would be the point of transitioning? By all means the circus is that perfect society, everyone there is totally accepting so if only Jax learned that he would be totally fine with being girly or manly with the other characters withot the need to change pronouns or name, would it not? Simply because getting recognized as a male or female would not make any difference, nobody in the circus would expect Jax to act a certain way because he uses he/him pronouns. I'm genuinely trying to understand.
Chomp
>>154333668>>154333682https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz3_5dQXNOA
>>154333697Where do you think you are?
>>154333656They'll get distracted complaining about some other woke media within a week or two.
>>154333700deserved for misgendering jax
The Jax trans thing is fine because they didn’t go overboard with it. But it still really doesn’t make any sense. There’s nothing in his character that really indicates a gender struggle. Pretty much any guy wouldn’t want to wear a french maid dress, so that doesn’t count.
ENOUGH WITH THE LONGPOSTS OH MY FUCKING GODPOST A PICTURE OF POMNI OR FUCK OFF
>>154333702this a funny video. thank you for showing this to me : ) i liked the "that sure is the pomni i know and love" at the end
Just wanted to take a minute and say... YOU ALL LIKED A TRANNY CHARACTER. PFFFTTTT HAHAHAHA WHAT A FUCKING LOSER. HOW CAN YOU BE SO STUPID?
>>154333592Femboys exist, when the mind palace scene happened and there was a Jax wearing a maid costume I just thought "oh, Jax likes crossdressing deep down but he doesn't want to tell the other circus member because he feels insecure, and his insecurity is because his mother was a bitch". To me, by Occam's razor, it felt more likely than jumping straight to being trans, goose just said he was trans for wish fullfilment but there were no real clues in the shows about that.
>>154333714>Pretty much any guy wouldn’t want to wear a french maid dress, so that doesn’t count.According to people ITT that makes you trans
CHOOSEYOURFIGHTERWe got:>Fat Dyke Brown!>Regular Dyke Brown!>Resumé Trasher!>Widestance Girlprotag!>The Mild White Cuck!>And, introducing for the very first time...as her own true boymode self...drumroll please...release the pink balloons...You! The viewer! Faggot!
>>154333714>There’s nothing in his character that really indicates a gender struggle.When I first watched it, I interpreted as someone who didn't want to follow the traditional masculine gender norms that's expected from a guy but wanted to embrace his effeminate/emotional side. You can still be a man and choose to be more feminine.
>>154333644i like this
No one cares
>>154333735Yeah I don’t really get it. The whole thing doesn’t really surprise me because I get that Gooseworx is trans and Jax is partially a self-insert. But I just can’t really find anything in his character in the episodes that suggests he wants to be a girl.
>>154333737lolllll theres so many effortposts its amazing
>>154333714>Pretty much any guy wouldn’t want to wear a french maid dress, so that doesn’t count.ya but we got shown his psyche was like obsessed with that. i also feel like if you make it too obvious throughout the show, then it gets called egg-crack wish fulfilment more than it is already being called that.
>>154333737How is Grant a cuck? He's happily married.
>>154333644>>154333746Drunk and dizzy girls are kinda cute, they get all quirky and stuff.
>>154333704oh, I wasn't cussing you out, I was just showing how I'd react to jax coming out of the furcloset.
>>154333698Brother, you're describing a typical abuse a lot of boys suffer growing up from bad parents and peers, and saying they're clear signs of him being trans. How many times do men get told to man up when they show emotions beyond stoicism? Saying someone's just as bad as another more extreme personality to shut down an argument? A distant father that considers his son a failure for not following a self-imposed mould of success? These aren't slam dunk trans allegories, they're real lived experiences that traumatized men grow up with, and no shit that there's going to be people seeing that and relating to it from the context of being a cis male.
>>154333728bugs bunny was a tranny and he was funny oh fuck i just realized is this all some meta joke about bugs bunny dressing up in women's clothes
>>154333737>out of a cast of six, three are homosexual, and only one is a real maleWhen you put it like this, obviously it's a tranny show.
>>154333757I see what you’re saying, but to me it just feels underdeveloped. Like there’s a whole central pillar of this character’s identity that we only got brief glances at. It’s a fine line though. It was probably better to under-do it than over-do it.
>>154333737>>Resumé Trasher!kek
>>154333763now i know why john lennon smacked yoko around like a bongo drum
>>154333644The stupid sauce made my wiener go boing. I have used it many times in my RPs since then.
>>154333737these were incredibly fitting representations of the characters honestly, i mean i thought jax would be a bit less hispanic or pinoy or whatever but its fine
>>154333777That was his first wife Cynthia, how I wish he'd too beat Yoko to a pulp for being an obnoxious hack.
>>154333768People don't actually believe Bugs is trans right?
>>154333789Why does Mike have two eye patches
>>154333784he should have beaten yoko ono back to japan, with a stick up her ass
>>154333682>deleted peacefully... They are more likely to abtract than to die pacefully, you just don't wake up one day and decide you want to die, you first experience boredom and apathy, then you start to feel empty and with that comes the suicidal thoughts, before they step into a doorway they be abtracted.
>>154333737my reaction to human form jax https://youtu.be/5vdmDB6DmCE?si=GbJ68885voPMzwu3&t=133
>>154333737>this is apparently "boymode"Oh you mean putting on a normal hoodie and jeans? Vs what you retarded trannies? Sorry you have to dress like normal humans to interact with the fucking bus stop. It's definitely a you problem. Maybe kill yourself.
>>154333798nah. ur just wrong. hope this helps!
I don’t care that Jax is trans because I always related to Bubble most of all.
>>154332925AHHHH I would creme in that sassy bunny until Cain pulled me off.
>>154333799LMAOOOOO
It's like if they revealed gangle was trans because she wore pants in the manager episode
>>154333722Ok.
>>154333737I'll be Kinger (he fucks black chicks and I wanna do that to)
>>154333737Refresh my memory: Is the light-haired girl Ragatha? She’s pretty hot. Pomni girl seems too tall to be Pomni lol.
>>154333789>People don't actually believe Bugs is trans right?They're called Schizos
>>154333804Maybe I'm too old now, but when I saw the outfit and hairstyle my first thought was that he dresses like a mid 2000's/2010 era emo. I had no idea trans people had coopted that style and called it boymode.
>>154333823>I had no idea trans people had coopted that style and called it boymode.It's beyond trans people and it's more of a gen z thing. It's the same reason why vaporwave, synthwave, and 80s aesthetics were big with millennials during the early 2010s.>t. zoomer
>>154333816>pants are as gender specific for men as a french maid dress is for womenliving in the 50s must be nice, im jelly
>there's an almost 100% chance Kinger has called his wife a nigger during roleplay
>>154333820pomni's irl is like near perfect minus her height, she needs to be like 6 inches shorter
>>154333737Why the fuck does gangle stand like that bro, this actress is so retarded.
>>154333834your mom is into raceplay
are trans people born trans or do they become trans? Because if it's the latter it's a mental illness and they need to get cured, if it's the former it's genetic and need to get aborted.
>>154333838nigga its exaggerated realism to make you recognize them at a glance, nobody stands like any of em
>>154333835Yeah I agree. I think the humans versions in general look pretty good and work well enough. >>154333838Yeah she’s overdoing it for sure lol
>>154333843There are no biological indicators that clearly identify someone as being trans
>>154333585this unironically
>>154333846true because kinger is sitting
>>154333854doh
>>154333693
>>154333804Boymoding is such a retarded concept, regular women wear hoodies and jeans all the time. Nobody thinks they’re men.
>>154333835I mean, the actress has a beautiful face but i allways pictured her with a similar body type as her VA, you know, skinny,
>>154333768>bugs bunny was a trannytranny really are going for total femboy genocide uh, why do they hate them so much?
Imagine spending years training your voice, taking estrogen pills and practicing makeup every day only for some random woman born with 2x chromosomes to wake up with messy hair in loose clothes and still completely mog you in femininity
>>154333737>People want to fuck Pomni instead of me (Goose, aka Jax)>I'll fix that by making Pomni a pear-shaped Photography major with the waist of her slacks pulled up to her nonexistent tits>This way, only my people will find her attractive from now on!>Goose my man, you've done it again!
>>154333699Notice how they don’t respond
>>154333865Boymoding just means dressing to go unnoticed as trans. Choosing to avoid presenting feminine. Hoodies in particular are a common choice because it hides hormone boobs.
>>154333871>the actress has a beautiful facethe image you're thinking of is probably the AI generated one if you believe that
this may be a controversial opinion but I think froggy was the one who fumbled it by putting the bowtie on jaxthe "your secret is safe with me" line would've been fitting without the feminization angle: responding to "I might've killed my mom" with "it's okay to be gay/groomed" is genuinely psychotic
>>154333880>hormone boobsis that what we're calling your fat flabby man-tits now?
>>154333795He just watched the Amazing Digital CircusFuck I want to see him review it now actually
>>154333878he looks scary
>>154333864>oc is a goat-thingDon't worry, your secret is safe with me ;)
>>154333595Jax is trans and that makes him evil. Bold statement.
>>154333887HOLY fuck. JARVIS, zoom out! Zoom out!
>>154333888its called trans writing, chud
>>154333878why do trannies always have massive jaws, I've seen the straightest, most masculine macho men with more feminine jaws than that
Why are there so many women in the circus anyway? Not exactly the demographic split you'd expect from a place only accessible through an abandoned building.
>>154333889No when you take estrogen it makes weird little boobs grow. Kinda gives the game away if you’re trying to avoid being noticed as trans.
>>154333887what's with americans and those massive uncanny smiles they always do in every photo
>>154333799>Let's just walk right out>We should just...nah>It was weird that he was trans, right?
>>154333888My read on it first time I watched it was that Jax (wrongly) took it as Ribbit belittling him. Seeing flashes of his mom in her and pushing her away because of it.
>>154333843>are trans people born trans or do they become trans? Iunno but i used to play with plastic balls as fake tits while pretending to be a mother at the age of 10
>>154333898ikr, black homeless bums were underrepresented.
>>154333907Mine was that she was flirting given the tone of the scene
>>154333878Okay. First time seeing his picture. He really does think he's Jax, doesn't he?
>>154333877For 0.5% of the human population that’s their everyday
>>154332815The chuds always lose, it's their nature
>>154333888I don’t think Ribbit was thinking of the trans angle at all. She would have no reason to.
if the entire point of your main characters was the struggle of being a closeted trans, and the wast majority of your audience didn't immediately get that they were trans, to the point you hate to clarify it through a social media post, you're a terrible writer.
I find it really depressing that it seems like the only two options lonely men get is either get surrounded by a community that makes them angrier and more bitter or a community that makes them chop off their dicks.
>>154333916I don't doubt that either, but that's one hell of a misread to flirt with someone who's just made themselves really emotionally vulnerable to you.
>>154333847>the humans versions in general look pretty goodThese desings mog the actors to oblivion
>>154333899They are not boobs
>>154333914I feel like a black homeless bum would just end up breaking the computer when putting on the headset did seemingly nothing. Or they would take it and try to pawn it.
>>154333924There’s always the option of rejecting all of that trash and choosing to stop being terminally online.
>>154333923> if the entire point of your main characters was the struggle of being a closeted trans, and the wast majority of your audience didn't immediately get that they were trans, to the point you hate to clarify it through a social media post, you're trans.
>>154333888sane people though Ribbit was just trying to flirt, but since the writer is a tranny, the canon option is the psychotic one.
>>154333922What do you mean, it was very obviously the big reveal Jax was trans all along! Goose wasn't even being subtle!
>>154332698Do people here hate the finale? I haven't been to /co/ in a while, I kind of went on lockdown to avoid being spoiled before I had a chance to watch it.I thought the finale was just fine. Pretty bleak, grim even, but it's what I expected basically.
>>154332718No, they are still having the same conversation over and over.
>>1543339454chan and twitter hates the finale, tumblr and reddit (where you get censored if you say otherwise) loves it
>>154333931I don’t care what you call them. I was just explaining the thing to you. Now you know what boymoding is. Congrats.
>>154332788>Jax admits he hates his body>zooble gets Caine to make a new body for Jax, temporarily, just to try it out>zooble thinks she is helping Jax transition>Jax turns up looking like this, happier than ever
>>154332762Hate Arin, Like Kaufmo, simple as.
>>154333949
>>154333945Yeah I thought it was decent. Not perfect, but I think it ended things off pretty well
isn't she lovely?
>>154333950I liked the finale but the tranny stuff was stupid as fuck
>>154333888The ribbon scene actually being about cracking jax's egg mad me hate ribbit, like that shit is manipulative and invasive wtf I thought it was just a cute scene...
>>154333950Sounds arguable thenYou know 4chan, people hate on things just for the sake of it
>>154333961Yeah, it was a satisfying ending even if I thought it was pretty depressing.
>>154333945I think it leaves a lot of plot threads hanging that would've been nice to explore in a second season. I don't think that's very likely to ever happen though given how much Goose seems to hate the wider fandom
>>154333950How long do you think it will take for the honeymoon phase to end and the rest of the internet to realize how dogshit the finale was? (even without the tranny stuff)
>girl takes you to her room with the disco lights on and the door locked and you have a deep heart to heart talk and she takes off her only clothing itemand this makes you trans
>>154333964Yes
>>154333966>[deep secret]>why are you telling me this? [obvious discomfort]>This is my way of showing you i trust you, do you trust me? [tell me a secret or this will hurt our friendship]
>>154333978Maybe Jax isn’t trans at all. Maybe he’s just a fag
>>154333953Again, it’s a stupid concept. Women don’t present feminine, they are feminine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RZl1l5jVh8?feature=share Jax origin story
I know people meme about "themes and such", but unironically if a piece of media has strong themes it could be enough to get me to like it more than something that's objectively better than it. Issue is that Digital Circus does not offer anything fresh on its themes, neither in concept or execution.
>>154333956honestly based, I don't understand why making and insecure boy transition and chop his dick off is socially accepted but giving him a manly muscly body to get over his insecurities is not.
I fucking hate Jax with hair and I will never forgive Goose for making this the dominant design that I will now be forced to witness until the end of time.
>>154333988It’s incredibly shallow
>>154333984yeah just pushing Jax to open up because "don't you trust me" is already pretty manipulative
>>154333995Trans people and autists don’t see it as manipulative. It is though.
>>154333988That's why it's such a meme. People acted like the themes of the show were so good and would make up for the lack of internal consistency, or the lack of explanations of previously established plot threads, but the whole thing turned out to be a wet fart in the form of writing.
>>154333988the amazing wasted potential
>>154333986It’s very simple. You’re just being obtuse. Sometimes trannies want to go undercover and not have anybody notice they’re trans. That’s all it is.
>>154333988does the show even have themes? rely on your friends and don't be a sperg shut-in I guess?also something something trans themes and such, bleh
>>154333984I want to be manipulated and groomed by a frog
>>154333995>>154333999>>154333984As a professional autistic, it's 100% manipulation. I don't think she realized that's what she was doing, but she still did it.Much like Jax didn't realize what he was doing would hurt ribbit that badly, he just wanted to avoid her. She chose to isolate from everyone else on her own.
>>154333986it's because they know deep down they don't look like a girl so by dressing normally they're just a male
I hope this general remains active for years to come but continues to be >90% transgender sperging forever.
This is the first instance in the show where Jax grabs Pomni by the throat
>>154333984>[tell me a secret or this will hurt our friendship]Unless you're a little gayboy (or trans I guess?? trans people do this ?) you're supposed to stand up for yourself when you're uncomfortable
Reminder that if Ribbit was male and Jax was female, no one would be on Ribbit's side.
>>154334010the point is, Goose didn't write her as a manipulative characters, she wrote her as a innocent victim of Jax's action, she believes Ribbit was helping him and not being manipulative, in no way Ribbit behaviour is shown as wrong, just Jax's reaction, she's that autistic.
>>154334030That's where you are wrong.I would simply self-insert as Ribbit in that case
>>154334037>she
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>>154334005>does the show even have themesReally the most prominent one that's comes up a lot in the show is that it's important to reach out when you're hurting and it's equally important to gently pry when people want to stonewall up and help people when they reach out to you, because becoming distant and isolationist results in a death spiral that's hard to escape from.It's an on the nose theme and a bit of a "well duh", I know, but it's still an important one to talk about I think.
Ribbit just wanted to get freaky frogstyle. So yes, it’s Jax’s fault. Just get some gash, you pussy. You’re literally in her bedroom. At least kiss her. Jax is a clown bitch. Fumbled the baddie so hard that he psyopped himself trans.
>>154334017it's what goose intended
>>154334063It's so weird how there are a million ways to read that situation that are more normal but no, the right one is "she magically knew jax was trans or something"
>>154333592Call me crazy, but I don't just assume everyone is trans by default.
Why couldn't I be Jax?
I'm just glad Goose didn't make Pomni trans for no reasonimagine the internet firestorm THAT would have caused
>>154334037people are literally defending her
>>154333887Come on bro, she a cuttie, if she had monolid eyes you all would be crazy for her.
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>>154334075ftm trans people aren't interesting. Nobody gives a fuck about the trans themes Zooble has, it's all about twisting Jax into one instead.
>Jax was trans this whole time>that’s why everyone continues to refer to him as a “he” for the remainder of the episode You guys are retarded
>>154334086>if she had better facial features she would be cute
Gooseworx if he locked tf in
>>154333984Jax didn’t have to answer her, she wasn’t forcing him to open up. She shared her background and told him that it was okay if he wanted to too, not that he HAD to. She even apologized to him after all that.
The Ragatha girl is hot. The Pomni girl is still comfortably within “would” parameters.
>>154334095what's with troons and wanting to specifically be a "cute and pretty" girl?
YOU FELL FOR TRANNY PROPAGANDA>b-b-but the other s-shows won't be like this!WAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA
>>154333737>Costume budget: $50Is Pomni wearing clown shoes?
>>154333737genuinely what was the point of this scene?
God I fucking hate indie animation. Every time it's fucking something. I'm so sick of it. I'm going back to Adventure Time. Finn was a man.
>tranny misunderstands male weakness and vulnerability for being feminine and thus equating it to gender dysphoriaSadMany such cases
>>154334078>Still referring to Jax as he/himironic
>>154334132Dramatic irony.
>>154334112the problem is that Jax isn't within "would" parameters anymore
>>154334141It really is fucking bizarre>my mom made fun of me for not being a man like dad... so I trooned, she was 100% right!Like ?????????????????????????????????
>>154334133>I'm going back to Adventure Time. Finn was a man.So you just stop watching at season 4 each time?
new thread>>154334154flatni edition
>>154334133is the new fionna show any good? Did they ruin Finn?
>>154334159>is the new fionna show any good?eh it's about fionna being gay and stuff, it's okay>did the ruin finn?no he's jacked and fucks huntress wizard
>>154334049hot as fuck
>>154334148For (You)
>>154334107All he had to do was tell her that he trusted her but he wasn't comfortable opening up deeper than him being homeless yet. Jax fumbled the situation and made himself too vulnerable, Ribbit misread that vulnerability and it made Jax reject everything to try and backtrack to a safer space to cope with it. Both of them fucked up but Jax was the stubborn asshole that couldn't come back from it and talk to her sensibly about how it made him feel. In a way I don't blame him for that either, he's a deeply troubled man taught as a kid that vulnerability is weakness, and the one time he lets his guard down it completely overwhelmed him. Ribbit needed to give him space to come back to her gently, not push and pry for a resolution to it all on her terms.
>>154334132To confirm to the show's intended audience (fats, browns, homos, women) that they're just like their favorite character.
>>154334197I never understood these types of drama shows, they just rely on the characters being stupid, it's like Prometheus with the scientists licking alien stuff, can't we get a normal animated show that isn't about "feelings and stuff" that only work if the characters are idiot?
>>154334236they're like reality shows, the story has no stakes or real plot, it's just set dressing, the only driving force is the characters doing dumb stuff to each other and forcing useless drama that could be resolved in a minute by any intelligent person.
Is no one going to talk about how alien and cringe it is to pretend that is normal that human characters have sexual atraction to essentially toys? I could understand platonic love developing in that world, but ain't no way sexual atraction developes unless they are completely degenerate to begin with
>>154334197It’s unfortunate since Ribbit didn’t have malicious intent when she asked that, she was only asking if her literal best friend trusted her. Jax reacted to an extreme degree which has Ribbit apologizing multiple times and getting frustrated when Jax continued to dig in his heels. I understand that Jax is a troubled individual, but he was essentially lashing out at a friend for doing what a friend does.
>>154334275>ain't no way sexual atraction developes unless they are completely degenerate to begin withThere are certain parameters that remain attractive even if the rest is weird. Combine that with coming to terms with the Circus being your reality now and I can see even the most stone-cold "normal" person eventually flirt with the idea that the cute female characters can be sexy as well.
