>Jax tried to be nice and helpful>Zooble still yelled at himPoor Jaxxie boy
>>154410594Previous thread >>154407637
Ragatha is a drug addict lol
>>154410594counterpoint
What's with TADC fans and cuckoldery fetish being wide spread?
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>>154410603piss is okay, scat is disgusting
Uuuooohh pathetic men are erotic unghhh....
>>154410588 can you negas at least use this thread after bump limit is reached on this one.
>>154410627both are disgusting
>>154410632Sure but you and someone else will need to keep bumping it so it doesnt die
>>154410663yeah but I'd let a 9/10 suck my cock if she said she wanted to piss in a diaper while she does itmeanwhile if scats involved im never getting involved no matter what
>noooo I hate being rich and famous uuuughGooseworx, I found the solution to your problems, give me your money and I'll pretend to be (You) on social media, you'll be cured in no time
>>154410707I don't know if she's rich yet, she's definitely much more well off than she was before the show started though. It all depends on her cut of the merch sales.
>>154410717>It all depends on her cut of the merch sales.>implying she gets a cut of the merch sales
>>154410614What would you do if you found out you and some people got brain cloned and one just murdered the everliving shit out of you constantly, for funsies? And then had some trans thoughts and died?
>>154410618reminder that Limpy is canonically a rape victim who was tortured as a child to cover up the rape to the point he thinks Jax is really nice for talking to and playing with him
Do you think Glitch will eventually have to get a writer's room when they realize not all their shows can be carried by miracle algorithm and merch?
>>154410628yessssssssssss they just need a father figure to hug them
>>154410737oh they 100% are having writing rooms after TADC, instead of letting mentally ill 4chan trolls write and direct a series with zero experience
>>154410594>>154410614>You've now just confirmed in my mind, you're not trust worthy. So fuck you!
>>154410726on oneyplays she said she gets every licensed piece of merch so I assume she has a stake in the merchandising since that seems similar to other "this guy gets a piece of the merchandising" deals I've heard of, but if im wrong ill admit it if theres any proof
>episode 8 opening>when confronted Jax breaks down and admits he's scared to leave>he's been alone his whole life, he's homeless he has nothing out there>the circus, the adventures, that's all he has, and he knows he's ruined it, and everyone hates him, and it's his fault
>>154410614Gangle just walked off, didn't care that Raggy was in therealso, remember that being rude is literally murder in the circus
>>154410666some Ragathug will probably do it for me
Would things have worked out better for everyone if Kofmo survived to help out Pomni? They both seem like the only normal characters in the series.
>>154410594Remove Zooble from the show. Does anything change for the worse?
>>154410808Yeah, we don't get this shot of her delicious bean body.
>>154410808>>154410827Any other Zooblers up pondering their pomnis?
>be Kaufmo>stuck in a digital world with two chicks (and a senile old man)>be good buddies with one chick in particular, going to the café with her every weekend>some rando other guy comes along>you and your buddy chick get along with him too, he becomes part of your group>your buddy chick ends up becoming closer with the new guy than with you>at one point they’re even in her bedroom together>suddenly they both start acting weird, new guy stops hanging out with her, she starts isolating herself, something seems wrong, but when you ask him about it, the new guy is completely dismissive and later tells you anything she says about him is not true>obviously something happened between them but for whatever reason she doesn’t feel like she can tell anyone>before you know it, she kills herself>the chick that was originally *your* friend died to suicide because of something involving this guy who came along later >despite this, you reach out to him in case he needs someone to talk to, because you know he must be hurting too, even if he caused this>he dismisses you, acts like you’re stupid for even asking>he starts abusing the other chick, the one that’s still alive, shoving her around and such>another chick shows up and he starts abusing her too, humiliating her from the second she shows up>just want out of this place atp>see what might be an exit>thank God>reach out to the new guy one more time, despite every reason you have to just leave him behind>he laughs at you and says “have fun being crazy!”GENUINELY why did Kaufmo never just beat Jax’s ass? He would’ve had EVERY reason and right to
>>154410783Probably. Kaufmo seems so chill and willing to help out when things get serious. I imagine him being a mental support older brother typa guy
>>154410594>his face when
imagine if we had one guy in the digital circus who just instantly clocked everything and just knew how to make the best out of the situation"oh yeah we're just code in a computer now, I get it. we're basically the same thing as caine or bubbles or even some of the npcs I guess. at least I dont have to worry about getting old haha""while its sort of weird, caine seems to make fun adventures at least and then leaves us alone for a few days and even lets us skip adventures sometimes. like I guess we're sort of prisoners when he makes stuff happen but stuff just happening is life!""I got to make out with a giant lady who had a lolipop for a head, a+ adventure""its a good thing im not super religious or anything or I'd be like 'do ****ing bits of code go to heaven, that's a real mind ****!"
Gooseworx if you read these threads prove it by making a tweet about vore fetish tomorrow
still not sure i understand the whole 'draw a guy, call it a girl' thing, at least when it comes to the rabbit here. human sexual dimorphism is the reason 'trans' exists in the first place.. with the goal being that they want to look/act like the opposite sex. so if your brain doesn't like your sex organs you should feel some kind of way about wishing you were the opposite sex is what i gather... gender can be confusing when you're younger but you can just be a guy that likes long hair and nailpolish it's fine.. yeah still doesn't make a whole lot of sense sorry
>>154410860That would be so based
>>154410762>also, remember that being rude is literally murder in the circusI guess Ragatha has strong psyche, cause she can just take all of the abuse without abstracting
>>154410835So did he manage to get to the fire exit and not find a way out as well, is that why he abstracted? He seemed sorta okay after Jax last saw him.
>Jax, a lanky rabbit, can't get past the fact that he doesn't have titties>meanwhile literally none of the circus girls have titties>I literally thought Gangle was a dude or the they/them for a few episodes (while binging, I wasn't here from the start)>none of them have genitals either>Caine doesn't have enough of a concept of gender to place gendered expectations on themI like Goose's androgynous character designs, but it really means an overt trans struggle makes zero fucking sense in this world. If anything, the freedom from sexual dimorphism should have been part of why Jax preferred circus life to real life, along with the consequence-free 24/7 escapism
>>154410878Ragatha being the first to arrive after Kinger and them being together for so long makes less and less sense the more you think about itThe promised 'development' for Ragatha in 8 and 9 only sets her character back and cements her as an afterthought
How differently would you see the show if Jax was Lilly at the start and the "trans reveal" was a no-shit, no-misinterpretation, actual-factual reveal?
honestly the added stuff in Jax's backstory was too much. At the end Jax just had too much baggage and emotional burden to be expected to do anything to better himself, making the cautionary tale thing not impactful at all
>>154410925boring
>>154410928She's lovely.She's wonderful.She's beautiful.
>>154410942she could have been happy
Jax is male.
>>154410960whatever makes you feel happy, but you can't cope forever
>>154410925Are you writing a character like that?It would be quite pointless, unless we dont know this information beforehand, it could be a plot point but not interesting enough to be that important like jax reveal was
>>154410960He's dead anyway
>>154410860"We're brain scans.""WHAT? REALLY? HOW DID YOU-?""The headset said 'Brain Scanner' on it. Can't you read?"
>>154410900I thought Gangle was a timid boy for the first 3 episodes. Mostly because Jax mentioned anime figurines.>We never found out what Gangle does to the figurines
>>154410925Unironically the twist could be that in the digital circus they have a perfect female body (or perfect as in totally passing) but their fear is that if people know about their real life self or if they actually "got out" which is impossible they'd be outted as a boy
>>154410925Alternatively, what if Pomni succeeded where Ribbit failed?
We shouldn't be celebrating a suicidal abusive cuck as a trans icon.
>>154410996I mean yeah, it's just constant intrusive insecurities that block jax for being happy, people that say "well in the circus he could have done whatever he wanted, why not chose to be a girl" as if that wasn't already shown to be the point, he was surrounded by positive, supportive people and still chose to be miserable
>>154411006we would have gotten this
>>154411008If we celebrate jax as an icon, gooseworx will bring them back and then it'll make the digital circus so shitty we'll never get new episodes again
>>154411008>somebody liking a character must automatically mean they celebrate it as some sort of icon
So Caine basically just killed Kaufmo with his shitty door prank, right?
>>154411043We never "celebrated her as an icon"Jax is a horrible, unredeemable abusive piece of shit
>>154411031>gooseworx will bring them backthe show's over, anonseason 2 never, it's a one and done
>>154411025I'll never forgive goose for robbing us of that
>>154410860Can't have that, anybody having a brain and acting reasonable would be a downright mary sue in the circus
>>154411056>shitty door prankI thought it was Kaufmo himself making the doors appear, like Pomni did in the Pilot.
>>154411057yes that's what I'm saying, her being a piece of shit made the character better, I like it, that doesn't mean I'm "celebrating" anything
>>154411056>>154411072Nta, but Caine specifically mentioned the door exit being his creation. This is why I disliked Caines redemption arc because he has literally caused at least a dozen abstractions
>>154410925I think a genderbend plot would've been funnyBut if it went all into muh gender, explicitly muh trans, it would've been even worse
>>154411074I like this goose didn't pull any punches or try to justify Jax's actions, instead showing that she was a real human with horrible flaws It shows that transwomen are just as inclined to have self destructive negative traits as real women
>>154411063I dunno, I think there's a chance they do a season 2 purely because all the upcoming shows seem like they might do...ehhhhGaslight district is my favorite but I think it won't have too much mass appeal.Gameoverse seems like it might do well enough to get a full run but not widespread popularity, like when people were excited for bee and puppycat and then it just fizzled out right afterKnights of Gwendolyn I feel is extremely likely to have massive production issues because it looks like an actual animated cartoon and not like a newgrounds style cartoon or 3d animated thing where they can reuse assets like crazy. Very likely giant bomb.I'm not rooting for them to fail (maybe gameoverse, kek) but every time a company experiences some failures, they always go back to what they know. Like rocksteady games is making a new arkham apparently, valve made a new shooter after dota underlords and artifact failed, and tons of other examples. And I think TADC has more of a chance of a continuation than murder drones, so thats what I think will get one.
>>154411025>Look, we found a bunch of cute outfits! Isn't she lovely?>Pomni!>I mean, Jax, we're already caught. Why try to lie?>*sigh* Just call me Lilly...>Aww~>Shut up!
>>154411072Yeah this >>154411084, Caine says it's something he was cooking up but never finished, and tried to hide because he doesn't like people seeing his unfinished stuff plus it led into the voidBut being the retarded fucking clanker that he is he didn't even bother turning it off entirely (presumably until AFTER Kaufmo goes full schizo, since we never see those doors again afterwards)
>>154411092
>>154411093Incredibly cute when she finally accepts herself as transgender Pomni can teach her how to use tampons
>>154411093
>>154411025>>154411099>>154411109Why were such important moments in Jax's character development left absent from the show
why can't jax just be an effeminate gay?
>>154411102>"Actually, I don't think I've had... 'cycles' since I entered the Circus...">"Wait, yeah, I've known the girls here for years and... well, unless I didn't notice...">Ragatha and Gangle look ponderous, then Zooble raises a hand>"Well... I may have been a bit... PMS-y on the day I came in... and it may not have fully gone away... ever.">Lilly chuckles a bit, which is met by a glare from Zooble>she drops the smirk and raises her arms defensively
>>154410614Now that the dust has settled, who was in the wrong here?
>>154411150the shift manager, frankly
>>154411163No, her name was Gangle.
Besides Your Toy and Social Coping Mechanisms, are there any other long-form Circusfics written by people from this thread?(Greens are good too, just hope they're not on Pastebin given how frequently those guys purge stuff.)
>>154411170There was a bunnydoll deconstruction fic written by someone but I forgot the name.
>gooseworx was a mlpfim hater>creates a character who's literally just fluttershywhat did she mean by this?
>>154411124because jax is not supposed to develop, it's a cautionary tale
>>154410977The same could be said about you transniggers
>>154411186As a die-hard Flutterchad, Gangle just ain't it. She's cute, don't get me wrong, but aside from le "moe shy girl" archetype, the only common thread between them is that Fluttershy gets cast as a hardcore weeb because of a background gag in a Halloween episode that was pretty mid tbqh.
>>154411071>Pooooomniiiii... I'mhauntingyou!
>>154411150Everyone that didn't pull her out and show her burned like a gollywog
>>154411204gangle also snaps sometimes like fluttershy
>>154411212To be fair, everyone snaps at everyone in the Circus.
Jax perceived himself as male.
>>154411234Who cares what Jax perceived? She's a girl!
>>154411231Ribbit would be the top of the relationship
>>154411234Lilly is still cuteNext thread can be all about gay Jax, how's that?
I hate Jax.
As Ive haven't seen someone do this pretty obvious connection, I did it myself.
>>154411200I mean she did develop a lot of problems and coping mechanisms that lead to her own dead.
>>154411124Goose's bad writing and last minute retcons. And no i don't buy the "signs were there all along" takes. Take any straight guy that has trauma and trust issues due to his childhood and magically put him in a maid dress, and he'd freak out, he isn't a woman that secretly got ousted >>154411129feminine men , bisexuals and even some gay guys are not fruity enough for the alphabet movement these days. The Ts are the popular kids now >>154411200Bipolar moms and deadbeat dads are a crazy combo
I'm not a regular user here, in fact I first came here after the finale was over ( I assumed no one talked about TADC ) and man, Ragatha might as well have angel wingsShe gets>Shoved>Shot>Thrown in a deep fryer>impaled>Stabbed numerous times>Abandoned by Pomni in the pilot>Forgives literally all of itAnd when one of her abusers abstracts, she says "It should have been me"
>>154411281"I like this. This is canon now."--Toothy Boi
>>154411274>And no i don't buy the "signs were there all along" takes.I don't understand why you have a problem with this. You think the hints in the earlier episodes could have lead to a different interpretation? Well, the final episode confirmed which one of the many interpretation was the right one, just deal with it, or do you get mad when a thriller confirms who the killer is among many comparable suspects?
>>154410860>oh yeah we're just code in a computer now, I get itWhy can't Cain just "delete" the corrupted versions of the digital circus members and copy past new versions of them? It would suck but it would be better than them being corrupted suffering conciousnesses forever, plus he would have more humans to be with. Or does the actual brain scan file get corrupted when they abstract? It was never clear if he uses the brain scan to render a human into an NPC's body or if the members are the brain scan themselves.
>>154411283yeah she is, the point of her character is that she is too sweet for her own good
>>154411283Please dont leave we need more Ragathugs
>>154410835>Jaxfags ignore this post because it contradicts their misunderstood bad boy head canonJax was a piece of shit and he got what he deserved.
>>154411294>Well, the final episode confirmed which one of the many interpretation was the right one,what scene was that?
>>154411304Jaxfags like myself understand Jax is a deeply flawed, terrible person and that's what makes his character interesting THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT
>>154411295>Why can't Cain just "delete" the corrupted versions of the digital circus members and copy past new versions of them?Because they're read-write files that are loaded and saved in real time. There was probably never a backup system, and if one was proposed, Caine would've just slapped his upper-jaw-temple and said "Dah! You algorithmic imbecile..." to himself.
>>154410835The pilot made it seem like no one really liked Kaufmo (that much)>He abstracts>Sorry for not laughing at your jokes bro>Even fucking KINGER says "I don't want to visit Kaufmo because he's gone insane">Contradicts himself 2 episodes later in his Pomni speech>Welp instead of having a funeral until episode 2 lets just all eat instead of even pretending to be upsetWhat was Kaufmo like immediately before abstraction
>>154411295I assumed the characters aren't a copy paste of the mind scan files, they are a way Caine managed to use and execute those files, when a character abstracts the actual files in the folder get corrupted
>>154411304>>154411319Jax is pathetic, that's why we love him
>>154411331Kaufmo really caused Ribbit's abstraction
>>154411281
>>154411324>Because they're read-write files that are loaded and saved in real timeAh, that makes sense then. Pretty shitty design by the devs before letting Cain go free. Hopefully it was just for that terminal/pc and there are backups kept somewhere. I feel bad for the dog character that had brain cancer and wanted to live in some capacity.
>>154411294most of the "hints" are just referencing his inability to get close to people, caused by his traumatic childhood. He's a depressed young man that can't handle affection , masks a rude persona , pushes others away and lashes out when people get too close and he can't handle the emotion. It's 2026, Trump is a larper and the rainbow movement is still accepted. If you as a troon author can't have your kind openly represented in 9 episodes of your famous show and instead have to say shitty tumblr takes after it ended, then you're just a bad writer. By Goose's logic, every man thats insecure and not open is a closet troon.
>>154411283I'm glad she got adopted by the gloinks in the finale
>>154411342>jax likes wearing a ribbon on his ear>still uses male pronounds>still a guy>he just likes the bow, ok?!?
>>154411342>Uh... what's that... between your legs?>It's whatever you want it to be~>... I'm just gonna get Caine.>Yeah, this actually doesn't feel great. I wanna keep the bow, though...>>154411349>Pretty shitty design by the devs before letting Cain go freeI think Caine designed the brain-scan reader when he made the Circus.
>>154411304>>154410835You don't need to tell everybody you know if your friend is trans
>>154411350are you so retarded that you wanted Jax to just look at the camera and outright spell to the viewer that he's trans? When did goose say every insecure male is actually a trans woman? She just told a story where Jax is fucking trans, you got so mindbroken by that that you're still seething
>>154411349>h, that makes sense then. Pretty shitty design by the devs before letting Cain go free.Scratch, scratch developed the mind scan thing and somehow created incredibly small, impossible to read files, then developed two AI that fused together and became so powerful they managed to properly use those files.
Jax being trans is extremely important for me.
>>154411375>I think Caine designed the brain-scan reader when he made the Circus.Really, I swore Kinger was talking about the dog character coding the brain scanner to achieve life beyond death, but he couldn't make it work. It was Cain that figured out how to actually make the brainscans activate after a time.
>>154411388 Gotcha. Then please disregard >>154411395.
>>154411354It makes me wonder how bad her mother was if she could forgive and sympathize with Jax of all people
>>154411354She deserved a loving mother figure.
>>154411400*grabs her hair and rips it off her scalp*
>>154411342Bows are just accessories
>>154411319no, you're supposed to only like the wholesome, sweet characters and treat them like real people
>>154411431a bit violent
>>154411431>her
>>154411382>you wanted Jax to just look at the camera and outright spell to the viewer that he's transhave actual hints that he's trans, not simply put in a maid outfit that would embarrass any regular hetero man by default or for simply having his room pink. The chicken and egg fetus is more likely interpretated as him not getting close to others than him being troon. By the end he could've morphed into Lilly before being engulfed in light. >When did goose say every insecure male is actually a trans woman?I said some examples above and even in my last post, not my fault you have retarded comprehension. Jax's whole character arc is about being insecure. Every guy in his early 20s relates to that, more than them being a closet troon. > She just told a story where Jax is fucking transagain, how ? and don't give the egg or maid outfit examples. My point is the troon representation is so shitty, it felt like a last minute retcon, that was only revealed in a tumblr post by a know deranged shitposter, that now backpedals and says people can refer to Jax how they want. >you got so mindbroken by that that you're still seethingyou can go to reddit if you want wholesome chungus larping faggot
>>154411443Yeah, like throwing someone into a deep fryer
>>154411435zoomers unironically think if you like an antagonist or a character that's a piece of shit in the work of fiction it's in, then you're a bad person too
>>154411400If femjax was voiced, would it be by the same voice actor or would they hire a transgender person? That body with Michael Kovach's voice wouldnt sit right with meUnless he went more Angel Dust with it
>>154411454Michael's a talented guy, he could probably feminize his voice reasonably well. Goose could even give him pointers if he needed them
>>154410594This show is highly satanic because it was made by a trannysexualised
Idk how to feel about it after finally watching it. Maybe I am a bit of a Jaxnigger myself and I should do more to stop isolating myself and do better.Did any of the cast from Ragatha onwards know about abstractions? I doubt Kinger would have warned them about it, so maybe Jax isn't fully to blame for Ribbit if he was unaware you could "suicide" in the circus. Hrm nah he's still a dickhead.Did he volunteerly abstract himself then?
>>154411446>have actual hints that he's transhow fucking explicit did you want the show to be, there are literal movies where the entire point is to tell only the story of a character discovering they're trans that are more subtle than tadc. Again, all the hints that showed jax being insecure about their masculinity, playing a character, being violent and misogynistic, they could all be read as jax being trans among other interpretation (there were also other hints that only pointed out to the trans thing but ok) there's a reason why it was a popular theory even before the finale. Next time when you see hints like that in a story learn to read them in different ways instead of being an obtuse fuckers that only wants their specific interpretation to be correct.
>>154411350I think you're overreacting to twitter trannies who desperately need ANY validation. They're the only ones spamming it. I think it's more likely Jax told his mum he was suicidal.
>>154411382>are you so retarded that you wanted Jax to just look at the camera and outright spell to the viewer that he's trans?I want evidence which actually points towards that conclusion directly, not evidence that can easily be interpreted in another way or is already explained by his trauma.Like let's suppose you see someone with some change and some groceries. Maybe they stole the groceries because they didn't have enough money, but the far more likely explanation is that they just spent their money on the groceries. If you start including some evidence which actually biases towards that conclusion (i.e. security tags still being present, a lack of a receipt etc.) then it starts becoming a reasonable default assumption
why caine apologists are weirdest people aside from Jax fans if not worse? have seen video review, >where person said why they didn't apologize to Caine? that they were the reason he crashed out, and it's half of their fault. Saying it's unfair only he acted guilty and not them.what the hell, he literally tortured them. Giving someone criticism and literally using their worst fears and torturing them is not the same(he literally used Ragatha's abusive mom against her). Aside from that, they literally on multiple occasions tried reaching for him in kind way, yet he still didn't listen even little bit of criticism. He selfishly stopped fifth adventure because it was boring for him, (although cast enjoyed it)
>>154411446As someone that didn't understand that Jax was trans before the final episode, and that got a bit angry at the reveal because it felt out of place, and in general I always dismissed "x character is trans" theories because they felt forced, I just watched a few theory videos and just accepted I was a bit near sighted, there's nothing wrong in admitting you're stupid and learn something new every once in a while. I recommend this one https://youtu.be/tGmez3msYAk
>>154411494it's not a mystery to be solved, it's just how the character is, the bow and the "isn't she lovely" scene were pretty on the nose final reveal while still being somewhat open to other interpretation, mainly because the show just openly telling jax was trans like it's a fucking columbo episode would have been lame,and goose still didn't to a great job at being subtle.
>>154411498>Bro, I used to be just like you okay>And by like you I mean a wrong idiot>But now i have this opinion which you should definitely also have to stop being a stupid idiot>This is definitely me being intellectually honest
>>154411483>all the hints that showed jax being insecure about their masculinity, playing a character, being violent and misogynisticyeah, having an asian tiger dad that never gave a shit about you and a bipolar mom that made you a punching bag for a dad can leave you traumatized and make you into a horrible insecure person, more so after you accidently injure her in one of her episodes, which further makes you unable to connect with others. Doesn't mean you want to chop your cock off and larp as a womanIf you go by how the brain scan works, Jax should've spawned as Lilly the moment he entered the circus if his inner self was a troon woman. Even Goose can't follow his logic and left plothoels all over. Don't forget that Jax was originally a woman in the early sketches, so that means his bad childhood story was always the reason of his behavior, rather than him being troon. >>154411491that's how i saw it too. Either he had a suicide attempt, was emo or wanted to a corny artist or shit like that that got his bpd mom to spazz out at him
What was behind the locked door in Jax's mind though?
>>154411513Learn to accept you can be an idiot sometimes and the people around you are right, faggot
>>154411518His grandmother's secrete lumpia recipe
>>154411354Gloinkified Ragatha.
I think I'll accept both versions. To be honest, it works in both ways where Jax is broken young adult, with traumatic childhood. Or closed trans that is too fearful to open up. They have one message that opening up is okay, and you shouldn't push away others that much, otherwise you'd end up mentally unwell to the point of killing yourself. Also it's message about abusive person, even though having a trauma and mental illness, doesn't negotiate their doings and viewer isn't obligated to feel bad for them. He/she deserve a professional therapist help though, not girl trying to fix Jax through hugs
>>154411518well umh it's not likely to be a the closeted version of Jax, that would just not make sense obviously, the show doesn't show any hints so it's can't be that
>>154411523 (Me)Oh, that's an unfortunate typo to have made
>>154411526people that dislike the trans Jax theory just don't want to admit that the message can still be universal while applying to a trans character
>>154411186Nah I agree with >>154411204Now Pomni on the other hand is basically Twilight
>>154411483>they could all be read as jax being trans>could beNTA, but you have to be looking for transness to see transness. So many people watched it and formed a completely different impression, and not for lack of intelligence or "media literacy" or whatever.I would be willing to bet that the venn diagram of trannies (or terminally online progressives, perhaps) and people who read Jax as a tranny before Gooseworx "revealed" it would almost be a flat circle.
>>154411518>hey man ,watch this 50 minute video on how the bad writing of a mentally deranged author is good >>154411530its his reaction to Pomni abstracting. It was so bad, he didnt want her to see it and would rather have her see his past with Ribbit
Isn't she clockyyyy
>>154411512>it's not a mystery to be solvedFaggot it is an ambiguity about the character. We are having a conversation right now about whether the evidence is enough for a reasonable (and unmotivated) person to reach that conclusion for themselves instead of some other more plausible explanation.Presenting this as if the only choices are "smashing you over the head" and "Agatha Christie" is obviously disingenuous and clearly there's a more reasonable middle ground than>both of these two theories are correct but the one that isn't the intent is going to be the more natural reading for most people until the author posts AU art seething about it.All you have to do is:1. Make any aspect of Jax's design (possibly after he has his skin ripped off by Caine) feminine.That's it. That's fucking it. Just give him literally any evidence at all that there is some aspect about him which is feminine which isn't imposed on him by other people.Just using the words "cracking an egg" one time in one episode half way through the series obviously isn't enough for people to jump on that theory unless they're actually deranged groomers who genuinely believe they need to crack other people.>the "isn't she lovely" scene were pretty on the nose final reveal Which has as many shots of pomni as it does of jax.
>>154411515Jax is purple with pink tints bunny, how is that any masculine. Their room is literally little girl's room. Being rabbit is both representative of cartoony nature, being an archetype thing, the funny one. Kinda like bugs bunny. At the same time cute animal also delivers the innocence, the purity the feminity.
>>154411540you have to be looking for transness to see transness because you're not educated, the same way someone wouldn't even come up with the femboy jax theory if they didn't know what a femboy is
>>154411546Girl we all know~ you got dick
>>154411186Fluttershy is just a kind introvert who has a hard time imposing herself.Gangle isn't particularly kind, she's just meek and breaks down constantly. I don't know if she's particularly introverted so much as just anxious
>>154410960well I guess not according to goose lmaothis faggot cant make up his mind
>>154411545and why would it be in the room with the other jaxes instead of the corridor?
this has all been a giant waste of time
Jax's drama was ultimately boring as fuck and I wish the finale focused on revealing more about Caine, Scratch and Kinger's existential sci-fi stuff
>>154411382>She just told a story where Jax is fucking transHe literally did not, he told a story where the insecure jerk character has a mental breakdown and kills himself, and then posted on tumblr "oh he killed himself because he was trans btw"
>>154411563xkcd comic something something, I'm glad some people are using this as a reason to educate themselves though
>>154411569One day you'll realize everything is, and then shortly after that nothing is.
>>154411570Everyone in this thread agrees that Jax's transgender plot was both more important and more engaging. Kill yourself.
>>154411553these are literally 1980s conservative talking points. are progressive this desperate to castrate young men theyd revert back to these?Surely every guy that is associated with pink or isnt masculine is a closet troon ? Ignore the fact that the digital circus as a whole is meant to be kiddy like
A lot of people openly admitting to being retards in this thread.
>>154411580+1
>>154411570This video makes me kek so goddamn hard
>>154411570You're literally not educated enough to understand why they didn't focus on that irrelevant crap.
>>154411578>Kill YourselfLike my fuarking hero, Jaxlilly...
>yea i watch TADC>really? where do you watch it from>Tumblr and Bluesky
>>154411579not every insecure male is trans but every trans was an insecure male
>>154411588Why make a scifi setting if you're just going to make the entire show about trooning out and ignore all the scifi elements?
>>154411580just a couple of retards ruining the thread as always
>>154411580Ive been telling friends and family how retarded they are for not seeing Jax has been transgender since the pilot and they keep looking at me with that blank Fox News watching stare.
>>154411512>mainly because the show just openly telling jax was trans like it's a fucking columbo episode would have been lameNTA but every other character arc and plot point was much more apparent than Jax's "transness". There's plenty of middle ground between stating it directly to the camera and the vagueness displayed here.Gooseworx might be "bad at being subtle" but it's clear he went out of his way to keep it as out of the main path of Jax's arc as possible. Perhaps that was out of cowardice or Glitch not wanting it to be too overt, but it comes across as being a half-assed proclamation that doesn't have a lot of narrative strength to it.It's also very inelegant to try and make his arc hinge on something that is so poorly alluded to, when there are plenty of explanations that don't require such a leap.
>>154411570
>>154411595One is far more important?One is culturally significant?One is politically and socially relevant?You're also a fucking dumbass?
>>154411605No real answer, got it. Thanks for playing.
>>154411519>I toootally am not invested in Jax being trans, I'm completely unbiased>but look at my collection of trans Jax artNTA btw, you're just a lot more obvious than you think
>>154411596To be clear, you're talking about the fucktard telling people to kill themselves for not caring about a trans subplot, right?
>>154411595>why did evangelion focus on that shinji faggot instead of telling us what the aliens were
>>154411546>>154411558https://files.catbox.moe/ue0cyn.mp4
>>154411563>j-jax was always meant to be troon, baka!oh yeah, let's just ignore Goose's early design of Jax as a woman during production, who was essentially the same character. So people using the troon thing as the reason for why he acts as an asshole instead of his bad childhood are falling for Goose's retarded retcons. >>154411592true, almost like the whole movement is designed to groom and self castrate rather than address actual issues young insecure men face
>>154411616Classic MPA post
>>154411610Again, you are literally not educated enough to have a cohesive argument about this topic.
>>154411530>well umh it's not likely to be a the closeted version of Jax, that would just not make sense obviously, the show doesn't show any hints so it's can't be thatWhy doesn't the inner core of Jax that we see when all his defenses are stripped away present as a girl? Or say anything that alludes to presenting as a girl?Why is the feminine Jax on the outside of the really-for-real-inner-Jax door, with all the other distractions and deflections?
>>154411614literally posted "Jax is actually a femboy" stuff here and hated trans Jax before educating myself, now I just find trans Jax art cute, maybe you would too if you accepted being wrong
>>154411626>you have to be deeply in the know about my mental illness to be allowed to discuss my mental illnessUnfortunately for you the show was released and marketed to the general population so it gets to be judged by normal people
>>154411526I wish goose didn't say jax was trans. Of course it helps in some ways to understand the character, but at the same time it means she as a writer had to intervene and say outwardly that yes that it correct. Either the message wasn't clear enough or she doesn't trust her viewers to came to that conclusion themselves. Also it cuts half of interpretations, I'm still clinging onto. I again think both truths can exist, therefore trans Jax and other theories can co exists at the same time.
>>154410617All fictional media consumption is cuckoldry when you think about it. You just have to sit there and watch the characters do things, never able to fuck any of them
Do you think these threads will eventually filter out all the finale haters, or will it filter out the finale defenders? Or will it just be whittled down to the most stubborn in each camp warring it out for all eternity?
Why do conservatives get so upset when asked to educate themselves?
>>154411645me in the latter
imagine being some fan from a third world country and you have to learn terminology that never really left 4chan/twitter or else you are missing the symbolism, media literacy and what not. Goose is truly the face of 21st century manifest destiny, i kneel.
>>154411645Only fanart posting characterfags will remain.
>>154411646I don't know, maybe you should educate yourself on the topic.
>>154411557>you don't understand, the doctrines of my cult are EDUCATION>you have to have this EDUCATION to see the character this way>but at the same time, it's totally an obvious conclusion, and reading it that way isn't a result of bias at all!If you have to be knee deep in trans theory and culture to read Jax as trans, it wasn't conveyed well as part of the narrative and is in fact wholly superfluous to itI repeat, you have to be looking for transness to see transness.
>>154411642>never able to fuck any of them>he doesn't have a going into cartoons machine
>>154411642...Damn anon, you're like a philosopher
pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni pomni WIFE
>>154411650>terminology that never really left 4chan/twitterThat's not what this is.Basically biology is too much for you?
>>154411645I don't care, I just want every cainefag to get hit by a bus.
>>154411646>the left spent like 10 years telling the right to educate themselves>the right becomes anti-vax nutjobs who "did their own research"o no
>>154411668
So happy piano Jax was locked away after Ribbit? When was he naturally happy like this?
>>154403061Who's funnybunny art is this? Google lens isn't giving me shit and I cant find the artist when searching the signature.
the finale is audience hostile (and that's a based thing)
>>154411650>make a show that's been translated into like 50 languages>rely on all of them knowing what a boymoder looks like
>>154411671God it was amazing watching them all die slow painful deaths on ventilators.
>>154411090why is everyone saying gaslight district will fail?
>>154411627because that's not what "inner core" Jax represented, it was still the usual, repressing, piece of shit Jax with a walls around him, he wouldn't have abstracted otherwise
>"Today's adventure is---">Jax raises a hand in the air and interrupts Caine>"Uh- hey! Wait! Um... b-before we start, could we---er, you and I---talk somewhere... privately?">the rest of the cast looks to each other (except Pomni, who just looks at Jax with a small knowing smile) as Caine pauses for a second, before giving a shrug and a very casual and undramatic>"Okay.">and snaps the two out of view from the others>Gangle is the first to speak after a brief moment>"... What does he want to talk to Caine about?">Zooble shrugs, then Ragatha looks to Pomni to ask the same, only to find her pleasantly smirkng>"... Pomni? Are you not telling us something?">Zooble looks at the two of them>"Hey... yeah, you've been talking with him more than all of us put together! If anyone knows---">"Guys, chill. You'll see.">not long after that, Jax reappears facing away from the group, then turning around to reveal a new pair of eyelashes>the rest of the cast react with surprise (except Pomni, whose smile just grew; and Kiner who, well, is Kinger)>Pomni walks over to the rabbit for a hug>Zooble lightly elbows Gangle's side and says quietly:>"See? Was I right, or was I right?">Gangle chuckles
>>154411641Goose prob realized that all of his "hints" are so badly written and mostly apply to regular straight dudes in their 20s with trauma so he had to make that post with the drawing. He could've had Glitch animate female Jax for a brief moment as he was abstracting in the white light if he wanted it that obvious, but now he just spews random tumblr facts before backpedaling and letting the Jax thing be fan choice.
>>154411683I don't think it will fail, I just don't think it will be enough to fill TADC's shoes.
>>154411668I want you to live a long, happy, healthy life
>conservatives can't educate themselves on biology, virology, economics, or media literacy Good thing they are getting raped out of existence.
>>154411563>I'm tired, because normal people didn't see my wink-wink nudge-nudge By Trannies For Trannies hints and immediately conclude that Jax (a character who has an arc that is functionally, elegantly complete arc without transgerness) is a trannyLiking this guy less and less with everything I read Terminally online radicals shouldn't try to make content for normal people, and if they do they shouldn't bitch about them scratching their heads at it. These people really do think their Bluesky bubble is the entire world, don't they?
>>154411696Good thing you are too, by your own works.
>>154411621>Goose's early design of Jaxwhat did the designs look like?
>>154411578>Everyone in this thread agrees that Jax's transgender plot was both more important and more engaginglmaoJax's plot was engaging but the transgender shit was borderline absent and completely irrelevant
>>154411687Zooble was probably only wall-punchingly mad about Jax abstracting because now she and Gangle will never be able to settle the Trans Pool
>>154411706>responding to the obvious conservacuck false flagging You really are retarded
>>154411578>Everyone in this thread agreesMe when I'm retarded
>>154411621>character changing gender (therefore backstory) during early design stages before the initial pilot means the final product is a retconretard
>>154410728I’d say “Lol”
>>154411580Maybe the "clues" were stupid because normal people don't obsess over trannyness like trannies do
>>154411677That's the Jax he wishes he could be for Pomni
>>154411693It seems like the nature of the art style and it not being a character driven drama will result in the budget being a LOT higher than TADC for a lot less payout. It's basically like if every episode had the truck chase from episode 2 and a gunfight or two.It doing less than TADC will be a huge blow, and compare the merch of it to the merch of the TADC - the digital circus merch is basically way better with more color and unique designs than "buy a plush of this weird not cute zombie guy or girl"
>>154411696>conservatives believe that if you aren't a stereotypical masculine man and show insecurity, you should become a woman and kill yourself>progressives believe that if you aren't a stereotypical masculine man and show insecurity, you should become a woman and kill yourselfoh thats, nooo...
>>154411631>educating myselflmao, you still think you're being subtle
>>154411563Literally just his bedroom. And Ribbit miraculously gleaning "trans" from a conversation about how he thinks he killed his mother.Like... I'm very up to speed on all this shit, I got the "hints". But Goose is just insane.
My wife thought Jax was gay, not a tranny.
>>154411731Swallow a pack of razor blades
>>154411646Because they don't want to admit that they don't already have all of the answers, or that they might be wrong about anything.
>>154411728holy shit not only is the gaslight district merch worse but its way more expensive, no fucking way does a glorified pillow of breadhead cost more than a maid jax plush to make lmao
>>154411627The three Jax's playing poker are from the three cruel scenarios in the other doors. That one Jax isnt really feminine, hes wearing the dress as part of a scenario where he does the cruelest thing he can think of after Zooble's abstraction
>>154410614Glad that asshole died. Hope his real self ropes too just out of association.
>>154411708just regular Jax, but with eyelashes , pic related
>>154411574Educate themselves on in-group lingo that exists to protect people who aren't even out yet? Great, now crazy TERFs can go boymode hunting, thanks GooseNot everyone needs to know everything about everything
>>154411498>Gangle and Zooble both laugh at the suggestion of forcing Jax to wear a dress>The decision to make him wear one happens immediately after he makes fun of Ragatha>Zooble is visibly angry while she makes the suggestion>Pomni votes no because she recognises that it's cruel>Zooble calls back to Jax trying to fuck with her in the bar>"Maybe zooble was actually being hecking wholesome chungus and thought Jax would want to do this">"peeling him like an egg">The fact his mother constantly degraded him for not being a man is only mentioned offhandedly one time.>Starts using female pronouns>Half of the evidence isn't in the show>"That's why Jax chooses to stay in this fantasy instead of escape back to the world where he can't hide from himself - as he's already came out to someone out there">"If he could have existed as someone vulnerable and beautiful in the real world, then what was it all for?">This is at the time where in the real world he was a homeless loser who thinks his mum is dead, and the only person he ever "came out" to is also dead>Ignores that Jax can "become himself" but still uses a male name and pronouns>Zooble is trans and not a woman but also when she has sex with gangle it's gayHoly fucking cope jesus christ.I'm fine with people who leave the finale with that interpretation. I obviously have to be when Goose basically confirmed it on bluesky. The thing I have a problem with is this selective and unrepresentative analysis of the show to act like there was obviously enough in the source material on its own to support that conclusion.It's like me looking at the ads and concluding that FunnyBunny was clearly the intended reading. The finale leans into it quite hard compared to the other episodes, but even as a massive funnybunny fan if I'm being honest there isn't enough there to say anything more than Pomni cares about Jax a lot.Anyway it's cool that she is fine with alternative explanations, I just don't like the analysis.
>>154411733>Have Ribbit alone to yourself >Panic and threaten them instead of claiming sweet sweet froggy pussy Xhey might as well be
>>154411733I miss Bubble.
>>154411685>repressingSo he doesn't identify as transgenderAnd Gooseworx didn't write a transgender characterAt best he wrote a character would have identified as transgender if his life had taken a different path
>>1544116454chan's populated boards are just a constant ongoing example of the meme about 'if you let one Nazi hang out at your bar his friends will start showing up'
>>154411733You're wife should get educated by some girl cock.
>>154411763This but it's trannies.
>>154410663Pissing is nice since the sensation of relief is pleasant and visually similar enough that it's almost like a much longer but more mild ejaculation.Diapers are fucking disgusting though, no dignity.
>>154411733How does someone watch the scene with ribbit and conclude that he's gay?
this shit keeps popping up everywhere my feed so I gave it a quick lookit basically takes concepts from NieR: Automata, Soma, and authors like Baudrillard, Hayles, and Heidegger, and turns them into a soft sterilized pop version for people below the age of 25the writing is obviously edgy and I personally have found most characters insufferable but then again I'm an oldfagI like the art style of the circus and the environments tho
>>154411758If Jax was truly a woman in his mind, wouldn't the brain scanner just give him a female avatar from the start? (purple bunny but with hair, female voice and some tits ) Zooble is a they/them butch and was turned into legos, clearly the brain scan can materialize all characteristics about someone's inner self in the digital world
>>154411774I thought it was about being gay until ribbit put the ribbon on his ear
>>154411733He shoulda been
>>154411758Correct, that's why Goose actually meant it and wasnt 'being cowardly' to say that any pronouns are reasonable to use for JaxI mean in real life if you think a guy is an 'egg' and start calling him 'She' for that reason, I think most lgbt people would agree you'd be a massive tool for that. But we're not talking about a real person
>>154411774Is Jax being gay somehow LESS believable than him being trans?Like, everyone watching that scene was supposed to take it as a trans confession, and a gay confession makes zero sense?
I've come to the conclusion that it was around the time of the Reddit incident that Goose was first being faced with the fact that the pacing was kinda shit and it was far too late to change anything by that point so it was cope mode until after the finale
>>154411777>If Jax was truly a woman in his mind, wouldn't the brain scanner just give him a female avatar from the start?YesPlease don't think about it
>>154411799Educate yourself, retard.
>>154411771The castration cult guy has way too much time on his hands. Actually impossible that the reverse could happen
>>154411796>Is Jax being gay somehow LESS believable than him being trans?Yes
>>154411796Yes. If you didn't realize Jax was trans since episode 1, you should educate yourself then kill yourself.
>>154411728Yeah, that's about how I would put it. It's likely to do well enough, but underperform by current expectations of ROI. I think it's possible to make good merch, just shift focus to things that suit the designs more. These simplified design plushes are not it.
>>154411805How?
>>154411690>Goose prob realized that all of his "hints" are so badly written and mostly apply to regular straight dudes in their 20s with traumaIt's funny, because all the "IT WAS SO OBVIOUS" comments rely on thinking that all these issues are exclusive to transgender people. They've come to think that straight/cis/whatever people don't HAVE these issues.Meaning, they've either been through the grooming pipeline and have been told that these issues are evidence of being transgenderOr they're just so obsessed with transgender culture that they project it onto everything.Either way, they are no longer capable of thinking like a normal person, or assessing the psyche of a normal person.
>>154411774He didn't start pounding her frogussy, seems pretty gay to me.
>>154411696Why are you so angry?Did somebody make a point in this thread you couldn't refute?
>>154411812We literally never see Jax expressing any kind of attraction towards men. We do see events which can plausibly be interpreted as trans allegory
>>154411747Pomni and jax genders were switched at this point btw
>>154411805But if she is actually a woman, then her being attracted to Pomni or Ribbit is gay?Are you saying it was clear that she was attracted to men?
>>154410960Based.
>>154411829It's extremely clear that you're attracted to men
>>154411821Nobody will engage with him in the way that he wants.
>>154411822No, you're being retarded. She is a woman, so if we saw no attraction towards men, that means she's gay.
>>154411777You enter the circus as something based on where you're at psychologically at the time of the scan. The entire underlying premise of the show is about geeling stuck in a certain phase of your life and feeling like you cant move on. The ending is that (all but one of them) move on without 'escaping' because waiting for some external thing to change is actually a big part of why people get 'stuck' mentally
Tranny jax was blatant as fuck
>>154411838You said less believable. If being gay is predicated on him being trans, then him being gay is inherently less likely than him being trans
>>154411736Sorry your little ruse didn't work, but no
The only evidence I can read as explicitly foreshadowing the tranny reveal was Jax telling Zooble "aren't you supposed to be mad at your ability to change how you look?" which I can understand going over people's heads because I was still not quite sure of it myself at that point >But Jax's roomCould easily be interpreted as targeting his insecurities in his masculinity like how Zooble's room was targeting her dysphoria
>>154411835Yes but that's not what we are talking about.Is Jax straight because he is a male attracted to women, or his Jax gay because she is a female attracted to women?
>>154411783Kaufmo better watch out.>>154411799>Please don't think about itthis seems to be Goose's response the every obvious plothole or retcon that gets pointed out>>154411815im straight up aspergers but straight, and related heavily to Jax in regards to masking and pushing people away due to insecurity. I can imagine is the same for non autistic men that have slight insecurities in today's modern world. Just imagine if someone secretly edited the final scene with Jax and simply added "men's mental health matters" in the movie release. It would be a modern day holocaust for these people
>>154411743That makes sense, but the fact remains that inner Jax has zero hints of tranniness, and narratively speaking that would be THE time to show themUnless you count the song, which is on a separate layer from the narrative and could easily apply to Pomni
Who invited /tttt/?
>>154411598I'm looking at you like that right now, Anon.
>>154411749>Great, now crazy TERFs can go boymode huntingWhat exactly are you imagining they will do to them?
>>154411843But you're the one saying him being trans is so easily and obviously believable. So female Jax showing no attraction to men means she is gay and that makes it obvious.
>>154410772Is there a drawing of Hunter Jax? Would be funny.
>>154411866Jax is straight so why is she having a romantic dinner with Pomni?
>>154411822what men were there for jax to be attracted to? the show is mostly women
>>154411775>it basically takes concepts from NieR: Automata, Soma, and authors like Baudrillard, Hayles, and Heidegger, and turns them into a soft sterilized pop version for people below the age of 25It's mostly a character drama. The themes and setting are basically only there to motivate the plot.There's also very little overlap between Automata and tadc what? Like besides the fact that "they both contain AI" what do you even think the thematic similarities are? No one ever gets cloned, no ones memory ever gets shifted, caine doesn't believe that his creators care about him or that he's creating the circus for any kind of higher purpose. They're completely different stories with a completely different focus.Even for soma the only overlap is that their real copies continue to live somewhere else. The show never asks or answers the question of if multiple copies of the circus could exist and Caine seemingly never takes any backups of the mind files (even after people begin to abstract). It doesn't even try to explore the questions soma asks about consciousness and identity in the same way.It's like you basically just googled "mind scan fiction" and listed the top 5 results.
>>154411855I think Jax can be trans but at the same time you can relate to the character because of similar experiences
Goose made her bed by choosing to make trans Jax vague, now she can shit in it (which she technically already has with that awful trans Jax design that will haunt Jax fanart forever now)
>>154411854>Is Jax straight because he is a male attracted to womenYes>or his Jax gay because she is a female attracted to women?We don't know that he's attracted to women>>1544118700.99*a < a, anon>>154411876Kaufmo
So glad the finale didn't have anything to distract us from Jax being trans. What else would we talk about?
>>154411881>her
>>154411886Yeah I'm glad we didn't have to linger on guilt and existential dread for too long, that might've been a little too compelling
>>154411885>Is Jax straight because he is a male attracted to women>YesSo Jax is a male and not trans.>or his Jax gay because she is a female attracted to women?>We don't know that he's attracted to womenOh he isn't attracted to women?
>>154411886wasn't the brain scan thing revealed in the finale too?
>>154411886Yeah, it sure would be awful if the character-driven show had given a satisfying and fleshed out conclusion to the other characters instead of haphazardly rushing things with a series of contrivances.
bubble got saved from all the bullshit
>>154411878that's too complicated, I can only relate to a character that's a 1:1 copy of me
>>154411795>I mean in real life if you think a guy is an 'egg' and start calling him 'She' for that reason, I think most lgbt people would agree you'd be a massive tool for that.Not from what I've seen but I admire your optimismHonestly, aside from not thinking a transgender reading suits Jax's arc very well, my main problem is with deciding that a character who never identified as transgender IS transgender and must be a "she"I hate how trannies act like it's an ontologically true super-identity that stretches both backwards and forwards in time when self-identification is supposed to be THE important partIt's just fucking creepy man. The retconning of a person all the way back to their birth is creepy and cult like
>>154411852Even that you can reasonably read it as "I hate being stuck in clown hell with this stupid model," especially when he dreams about finally being rid of his irremovable clothes about five minutes later.
>>154411898>So Jax is a male and not trans.yes>Oh he isn't attracted to women?He might be, we don't have explicit confirmation
I think gooseworx kept it vague in a way where you can see the clues accumulate, but it could still be taken as "Jax is insecure about not being weak/feminine, he might be gay, he might be trans". And then gooseworx just goes "yeah he trans" on twitter because she was mad too many people didn't interpret it 100% on the nose and cheapened it a bit
Trans Jax clues are vague only if you're completely smooth brained
>>154411867Send their young "sons" to conversion therapy thanks to being able to spot the signs, and/or make life a lot harder for their adult "sons" who show up every christmas with suspiciously smooth skin having never outgrown their emo phase
>>154411890>Kinger... am I a girl?>I think you'd know that better than anyone else. Wouldn't you?>... *sniff* Thank you.>Gesundheit.
>>154411900Revealed to the characters, who then got over it in a matter of minutes.
this is what watching an entire group of people getting bullied by one guy feels like
>>154411729le horseshoe face
>>154411907>>154411852It's also obviously intended at a jab at zooble given she spends multiple episodes complaining about her body before that point
>>154411902the other characters were already explored in past episodes, there was nothing more that needed saying for them. Jax had been withheld until the finale for a reason
>to be fair you have to have at least a college education to catch the mental illness subplot
>>154411913*not mentally ill
So likeAm I the only one that thinks they're all essentially doomed?They've been given the secret, the knowledge that they are immortal AI beings, and not a single one of them has the thought "Hey, maybe we should try to do something to make our computer contact the next person to walk by. Maybe they can renew the electric bill on this building!"They are one power outage away from all dying, none of them seem to care, and it's a problem that could be solved. They're already editing code and shit.
>>154411913are you trans?
>Did I write the implication badly?>No, people with different opinions are just stupid
>>154411924>there was nothing more that needed saying for themSo this is the power of education....
>>154411929Noooooo thats not an important deal, thats fluff, thats not necessary
>>154411929>They are one power outage away from all dyingAnd tonight you could have a brain aneurysm and never wake anon
>>154411930no and I don't know any trans person, I'm just not an idiot and have at least some media literacy
>>154411929Do you think Jax being trans has anything to do with that?
Goose could've had Jax enjoying being in the maid dress in episode 5 and doing a poor job of hiding it but that would stop her from being able to jerk off to the professionally funded humiliation fetish porn
>>154411938>and have at least some media literacyNo you don't.
>>154411855>im straight up aspergers but straight, and related heavily to Jax in regards to masking and pushing people away due to insecuritySame here, and I think transgender Jax is a valid reading for the character, but I dislike the smug fuckers saying "If you were EDUCATED you'd see the OBVIOUS CLUES" when they are so clearly ignorant to anything outside their own bubble. Same with the creator seemingly being annoyed that people aren't "getting it", instead of realizing and being happy that he wrote a great character that anyone can relate to.The oppression olympics teaches its greatest athletes to think they're the only people in the world with x problem.Narcissism is a hell of a drug.
>>154411936Power outages are more common and likely.
there are people in these threads who aren't trans?
>>154411913Literally everyone is making fun of Goose for making the most obvious trans character in a show and pretending she was subtle about it, yet 4channers are so retarded they still didn't get it.
>>154411936That's why I eat my wheaties and do my pullups, anon.It will reduce the chances somewhat, which is only the responsible thing to do.>>154411935Like, they could absolutely escape this digital circus after making contact with meatworld entities. Get some bodies that can independently do things like activate a backup generator, perhaps.
>>154411948They've been going for something like 20 years in the US, and I'm pretty sure literally every single part of the US power network has had a power outage during that time
>>154411939Jax being trans doesn't matter. Hell, neither does his abstraction, as all the files are still clearly in there somewhere.And these people are now all immortal self upgrading machine beings.If only they'd act like it.
>>154411929For all we know the power goes out all the time and no one in the Circus can perceive it. Everything just picks up where it left off. Maybe they're only alive at all at this point because someone is using stolen power to mine crypto on some C&A computers.
>>154411929I've taken to the theory that Grant is secretly upkeeping the place so that Caine (and the human brain scans keeping him company) won't die, and occasionally gets passerby to some down and get scanned just s Caine has a new friend every once in a while.
>>154411956
>>154411959>>154411955If they're lucky it's got some kind of auto-restart.If they're very lucky someone is stealing power for crypto farms.But they're going to need to replace parts eventually, and it's super irresponsible not to acknowledge this.
>power outageI kinda just assume the program freezes at whatever point it stops and continues where it left off after it turns back on and it's seamless for the characters so they never even notice it happens
>>154411962inject yuri in my veins
>>154411965Shut the fuck up?
Can't work out if I'm more misogynistic or trans-misogynistic
>>154411965Computers don't just turn themselves back on.
>>154411919Was it explained to the audience earlier (like on kinger's computer if you freeze framed)? I watched the whole series for the first time this week and have no knowledge of fan discourse which happened in the months between releases, I learnt it at the same time as the characters did
>>154411965The logic still stands though. They are in a situation where they are effectively immortal as long as they perform basic maintenance, and they're not doing it.
>>154411961Kill yourself.
>>154411917>Send their young "sons" to conversion therapy thanks to being able to spot the signsHonestly I'm in the camp that they're probably getting groomed online and they need some sort of intervention, but I'm not convinced conversion therapy is it, because that sounds traumatic as fuckBut really, if Jax's human self and Goose's younger self >>154410077 is representative of average "boymoder" I don't think it's fooling anyone, sorry to sayA TERF in particular would probably spot that a mile awaySo don't worry about Goose endangering boymoders everywhere, I guess?
Good morning Ragathugs!
>>154411878he CAN be but the problem is that in the show he isn't necessarily, the author said he is (after the show ended) and trannies are unable to comprehend death of the author and insist that means it's the ONLY canon interpretation
>>154411974Most educated poster award
>>154411974What? It's a cute idea
>>154411970Yeah well computers don't run by themselves for 20 years!
>>154411971I estimated they were brainscans about two days into the show when any physical body would have died.Either they're in time dilation (brainscans), their body is dead (brainscans), or their body left (brainscans).
>I don't like how this thread is discussing a trans identifying character>I know! I'll inject my retarded fan theories to steer the conversation awayStop being so obvious about it.
>>154411997Why are you acting like a trans character is more important than the possibility of becoming the machine god-head of the new world order?
>>154411997>I don't like how people aren't discussing jax being trans>I know! I'll cry about itDry your tears up, little bitch
>>154411997>Tadc thread>"Stop discussing tadc!!!"?
Do you think kinger would have shut down the circus when he was the only one left if he could?
>>154411978Ragatha is so beautiful and deserved better than being harassed by a boymoder
We got any BALD female Jax art? Jax should not have hair.
>>154411978Good morning!
>>154412011Honestly the fact that none of these creatures seized power when it was presented to them means they all deserve it.
>>154411970They LITERALLY do. You can just change the settings in almost any bios to auto-reboot after a power outage.
>deep in depth character and plot discussion that just so happens to be about a trans character >"lol what would happen If the janitor unplugged the circus lolololo?"
>>154412015We had plenty before Goose tweeted that stupid shit
Desperate for attention award
>>154412025The "deep in depth character and plot discussion" in question is >>154412024and telling people to kill themselves.
As a highly educated person, even after knowing all this shit now I still don't see the tranny thing
>>154412034Guess you need to educate yourself more :^)
>ambivalent to trannies >TADC is so good that I don't mind referring to goose as xer preferred pronouns >TADC shits the bed and the catalyst is the self-described self-insert that's also a tranny>learn more about the trans community things post-finale that makes me dislike them moreBravo Gooseworx
>>154412029Yes, the conservatives that can't stand or are too uneducated to understand subtly are desperate to make idiots out of themselves.
Ragatha deserved worse for being boring and needy.
>>154411936NTA but I find the idea of being in a simulation that could be shut down any minute much scarier than the idea that I could die in my sleepNot sure why exactlyMaybe it's the idea of having my entire self contained in a man-made computer file instead of an incredibly complex brain and body apparatus that we still don't completely understand Maybe it's the difference between leaving a corpse in physical space and simply winking out of existence (computer files notwithstanding)
>>154412027Yeah we need Jax bald once more.
>>154412052I think the idea of being "switched off" is more tangible than dyingLike you don't really understand being alive/dead as just a switch being flipped
>>154411938>media literacyHe said the line!!
Ragatha deserves to have someone flirt with her and adore her
>>154412050dont be rude to the millennial gorl
>>154412054I have no problem with trans Jax, just emo Jax
>>154412034Review the nightmare sequence. When Jax has his purple skin pulled off, he fixes the sleeve the exact same way a stereotypical woman fixes her dress after being raped. The clues about Jax are all scattered around like that, like the tail making him a "paragon of masculinity" and is also the part that vanishes.
>>154412034All jokes aside, if you REALLY didn't catch any other the obvious trans coded elements, you're retarded, and I mean it in the most polite way possible. Educate yourself, the world is much bigger and more amazing when you step out of your straight white bubble.
Ragatha deserved better for being underdeveloped and supportive
>>154412063unfortunately she is chadsexual and would get the ick if you approached her
>>154411950>the most obvious trans character in a showIt's only "obvious" to trannies and their terminally online allies
>>154412065Honesty Female Jax should be a punk chick.
>>154412069>straight white bubbleThat's how I like her though!
Frankly I don't think the computer's power supply matters that much, simply because the fact that a 90s or whatever computer being able to run effectively AGI is itself so completely outside the realm of plausibility that you just have to suspend your disbelief and assume it's some kind of magical secret sauce computer.Not to mention that any server running for 20 years uninterrupted, even with a stable power supply, would be extremely lucky. Zero crashes, zero instability, never running out of resources (like RAM or storage) a single time no matter what. Not a single hardware fault, all components functioning perfectly. The brain scanner just sitting there for 20 years collecting dust and still functioning fine.It's simply necessary to assume that it's either magic or some kind of technobabble super duper invention in order to even be able to accept the premise. And that's fine, it's a cartoon about a shortstack jester and that's what's important. But if you do that it's really not a stretch to also accept the power supply as being magical somehow, and the room also being magically immune to junkies and crackheads looking for scrap while still being penetrable for hapless innocent explorers that will get brain scanned.
>>154412071Her support helped so many people likeUhUmmUh...
>>154412069You're not making a very good case for anyone to want to interact with you on a more permanent basis.
>>154412082>secret sauce computer>secret sauce canon makes characters hornyNo wonder Bubble is such a pervert!
>I'll just post paragraphs of off topic shit to drown out all discussion of JaxHow angry are you that Jax is trans?
>>154411938ive had sex with transes, so im the expertJax in the show is not trans
>>154412068>he fixes the sleeve the exact same way a stereotypical woman fixes her dress after being rapedI am sorry my education did not extend to the average dress mannerisms of rape victimsI will do better
>>154412085Because that's an obvious false flag?
>>154412081Bubble is a gay bottom.
>>154412034When they say education they mean indoctrination
>be a tranny>write a show where the main conflict is characters believing they're something they're not and that it's unrealistic for them to ever achieve their delusions
>>154412092I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or if I am just old and this stereotypical visual thing is no longer common in movies.
>>154412082>run effectively AGIThe computer makes the people from the mind files so stupid they think it's agi
>>154412093sure okay whatever
>>154412089Literally the only thing I care about is pomni sexBut of course it's understandable that with the finale having just dropped, people want to discuss the various auxilliary plot threads that got wrapped up, like details of the setting or secondary character backstoriesI am waiting patiently for the excitement to die down so the discussion can focus on the main thing in the show again
>>154412082The entire setting falls apart if you think about it for longer than five seconds. It's almost like Goose shouldn't have made it this way in the first place.
>>154412107It's super weird to make it about a boring old everyday "tranny" narrative, when we have a digital world with people literally forced into bodies that either do or don't represent who they are inside, and you can do a lot with that but outside of Jax thinking he looks stupid and whatever Zooble's deal was, it's not even touched on
she could have been happy
>other characters? how does that relate to me torturing my past self?
>>154412121I doubt it desu
>>154412121Never stop posting Trans/FemJax. We need you to scare away all these piss babies.
>>154412068>he fixes the sleeve the exact same way a stereotypical woman fixes her dress after being rapedYou mean a character who doesn't want to open up, be vulnerable, or have someone see the person inside feels violated by being stripped bare?... and you think this is a fear that only applies to closeted trannies?
I still think it would have been nice of gooseworx to give like 30 seconds to one minute of dialogue to explain how C&A and the digital circus servers still exist after TWENTY YEARS of inactivity. The most reasonable explanation is that C&A is defunct but Kinger put Caine's server in his basement for REASONS and he upgrades it from time to time with spare parts from whatever his current work uses, and that the brainscans are being done remotely by accident by some long forgotten remote link to a pc thats been around for 20 years. I could buy the remote pc just automatically starting up the "brain scanner" program every time the power goes out or something.
>>154412127Slolwy, with baby steps, inside the circus with pomni and the others, she could.
>>154412127Goth Jax could handle transitioning. Brooding and cynical.
>>154412133Preferably BALD Female Jax.
>>154412133I'm doing my part
Ragatha with two eyes is cursed imagine her being sad that only has the one eye and being insecure that the button eye makes her look ugly
>>154412069>Educate yourself>step out of your straight white bubbleHoly shit, you people are such caricaturesCompletely failing to see that your insistence on Jax = Tranny being "obvious" outs you as being completely stuck in YOUR bubble
>>154412133>hello, I am mad that an alternative interpretation has been reached! Time to harass and cancel people who refer to Jax with he/him pronouns!
>>154411777 #>If Jax was truly a woman in his mind, wouldn't the brain scanner just give him a female avatar from the start?Yes, but this only works if you follow the (teleological) argument that "a trans woman is a woman trapped in a man's body". I think troons have largely abandoned this in favor of "any gender expression is OK if the individual doing the expression finds it affirming".
>>154412151Patrician taste, but rare to find food to satisfy it with
>>154411877>caine doesn't believe that his creators care about him or that he's creating the circus for any kind of higher purposeThe fuck was this about?
>>154412136No, but portraying a male character covering up in such a feminine way is a storytelling choice. He isn't doing a Rocky Balboa macho posturing lashout at implied emotional vulnerability, he's fixing his dress to cover up his chest, because he's a woman.
>>154412155CopeSeetheHave your women ride BBC We don't care, were posting transJax.
>>154412117I still think this is what happened: >>154407204It was just never intended to be the biggest phenomenon of the decade and provide a deep, nuanced, highly approachable discussion of LGBTQ++ issues that would resonate with a massive global audience, with a well grounded and deeply thought out setting etc. etc.It was some guy writing a self insert fantasy in the way that his wish fulfilment required it, throwing it into a vaguely plausible setting described just enough to let the cartoon plot exist.And then it happened to get billions of views and everyone is dissecting it now.
>>154411777Not quite. Caine is not granting their wishes, he's tailoring their bodies to their minds, which means their issues get embodied instead of fixed. Zooble's body dysmorphia is still body dysmorphia, and Jax is still what /lgbt/ types call an "egg" (soft yellow inside a shell).
>>154412170>he's a womanmost convincing tranny apologist
>>154411777Caine makes the bodies based on what he can understand about humans with his autistic mind. "Oh he sees himself as a jokester cartoon character like bugs bunny? A bunny it is then"
Digital Circus is great as an episodic comedy and kinda mid as a serialized show
>>154412168In the sense that he believes that he designed to be a generative AI? SureIn the explicitly deistic reverence of YoRHa? The dude has multiple clones of the lead developers in his world and basically all he does is mock kinger's dead wife
>>154412167Jax’s baldness is part of the character. Also Jax should have had enormous boobs.
>>154412189>Also Jax should have had enormous boobs.astronomically based
>>154412121She would be just as terrible
The show is actually an anti trans allegory>All of the characters start their lives feeling uncomfortable in their body>They desperately search for a way out - to become their "true selves">Characters only start to become happy when they accept themselves for who they are:>Zooble learns to love that she can swap out parts of herself>Gangle learns that forcing herself to wear a happy mask doesn't fulfill her>Pomni finally becomes comfortable with her appearance in the mirror in episode 9>Ribbit (the most self assured person in the show) is fully comfortable with her body by the time Jax arrives>Jax refuses to accept his body, and this clearly causes him anxiety and eventually to destroy himself>His biggest anxiety is getting exposed for the true body he hides under his fur>The characters are only able to become truly happy when they "abandon the idea of leaving the circus" (i.e. accept who they are and the things about themselves they can't change)May have posted this in the wrong thread
>>154412171>Cope>SeetheLook at you, being an example of what you want to see!>We don't careThat you're in stuck in your bubble? Yeah, we know.
>>154412182I'm telling you why Goose made certain direction choices for narrative purposes. You don't have to agree with those choices, but that is what the intent was.
>>154412153YOU'RE NOT UGLY RAGATHA!!!!also good morning thugs
>>154412201Say Jax is trans.
>>154412185Its comedy was hit or miss. It's really just a mid show with therapy talk tacked in so it comes as interesting to normgroids and (man)children.
>>154412195She wouldn't immediately stop being a jerk
>>154412201Never heard your take. Do you affirm Jax as female?
Pomni wearing gangle as a swimsuit
>>154412142>Slolwy, with baby steps, inside the circus with pomni and the othershe could've without transitioning as well. If you just give enough time, assume "baby steps" and assume everyone continues being supportive and never crashes out over this shit, yeah, sure, anything could be made to work. They're literally stuck together for all eternity, you could say "Jax was spazzing out because he's secretly an ABDL adult infant" and if you assume nobody gets so fed up that they abstract, and take it slowly enough with enough baby steps, yeah eventually they'd probably all come to terms with it.For that matter the baby decorated room even supports. Maybe Jax was just into diapers and that's why he got so embarassed at the poofy maid dress.See how easy it is to just ascribe anything you like to the piss poor evidence?
>>154412170>He isn't doing a Rocky Balboa macho posturing lashoutBecause he's insecure about his masculinity and has been putting on a facade the entire damn timeThe way he's covering up isn't feminine, it's VULNERABLE. You're conflating the two because transgender theory has caused you see everything in terms of stark masculinity and femininity
>>154412201Morning thugwarning the trannies are in full swing
>>154412193Once transitioned Jax would own her gender and flaunt her big bust.>”Don’t pretend you don’t like these, sweetheart!”
>>154412184But Jax only adopted the Bugs Bunny persona after Ribbit died, he was a generic sadboi before that
BREEDING.HIPS.
God I hate the hair what the fuck
I get some people are just shitposting but it really is kinda fucked up how we aren't allowed to have any kind of real back and forth about Jax because people keep trying to manipulate the thread for their own characterfagging and fanart.
>>154412206>>154412212Is this an injoke or am I really witnessing aggressive cultlike behavior here?
>>154412237It's literally on topic discussion though?
>>154412221Take it up with Goose.
>>154412199And I'm making fun of you calling a "woman" "he" in literally the same short breath while trying to make your argument
>>154412231>Whenever nobody is talking about Jax, people should be asking "why is nobody talking about Jax?"
>>154412197TADC is an inverted Matrix where instead of escaping the digital world to become your true self, there is no escape. You will never be a woman.
>>154412237False flagging /pol/fags trying to make anyone that supports trans Jax look bad.
>Pomni and Lilly cuddling in post-adventure naptime>"... You think Ragatha should ask Caine for a bigger butt?">Pomni chuckles>"Heh, maybe... should I ask Caine for a bigger butt?">Lilly's turn to quietly chortle>"Nah, your butt is adorable...">Pomni smiles, loving how silly this conversation is>"... I should ask for a pack of really poofy diapers, though...">"... Huh?">"I mean, I know we'll never use them, I just think they'd look cute on you...">"Wait, Ja--- Lilly, are you serious?">"... What?">"I-... I don't want to do that.">"Oh... I'm sorry.">"Seriously, that's... REALLY weird.">"I've been repressing for years, gimme a break!"
>>154412209Female Jax should be flirty, teasing, smartassed and BALD.
>>154412241I'm disagreeing with your interpretation.We know what Goose intended. That anon was saying he didn't see the tranny interpretation within the show itself.
>>154411598>who the fuck is Jax, honey?
>>154412197>(the most self assured person in the show)>instantly dies the moment she has a falling out with a friend
>>154412229Yeah Jax with hair is just wrong.
SAY HER NAME
>>154412240Whether it's on topic or not isn't the point I'm making, it's cultlike and creepy as fuck regardless>>154412250Honestly not unlikely, but I've seen how insane people actually get about this kind of thing so Poe's law is in full effect
>>154412262Cooper?
>>154412242Yeah, because I think trans Jax was a nonsense writing decision, but, me thinking it was nonsense does not change the fact that that was the writing decision.
>>154412218She's a terrible person because she's repressing, if she stopped repressing she wouldn't immediately become happier or stop being an asshole, but it would put her on the right track to become a better person, while we saw what happens if she never decided to face her fears. She would have never became a better person without transitioning, even with the most supportive and understanding people around her, she is his worst enemy and only she can fix herself.
>>154412153Kissing Ragatha's button eye!Playing with Ragatha's button eye while cuddling!Decorating her button eye with silly stickers!
>>154412199>>154412241Death of the author.We all know what goose said. The argument is whether this is clearly what the show itself shows, or whether it's just the author's headcanon that doesn't apply if you just take the show at its face.
>>154412262RAGATHA a cis woman
he is male presenting in the show and wanted to be female but never got the chance, im not well versed on trans stuff so thats my interpretation
>>154412255That's nice. The clues are in the show's writing. Feel free to argue with the images and noises on screen.
>>154412260>instantly dies the moment she has a falling out with a friendShe abstracted not because Jax ditched her, but because, after cutting off her own parents, she thought she deserved it
Don't forget to recycle>>154410588>>154410588>>154410588
>>154412268I mean yeah sure I can agree with that, nobody can argue that it's what goose apparently meant to write
>>154412278Understandable, have a good day
>>154412270holy cuteAlso giving her different button eyes as presents
>>154411728Wait why are hips on the "Mel Animatez" so narrow?
>>154412252Agree.
>>154412269>She's a terrible person because she's repressingHe's a terrible person because he's traumatized and can't trust anyone. Tranny repression may possibly be part of that but it's not the main issue.
>>154412288Except people are arguing exactly that. See >>154412275. It is one thing to think TransJax is stupid. I think TransJax is stupid. It is quite another thing to be in denial of reality.
>>154412197>>Pomni finally becomes comfortable with her appearance in the mirror in episode 9ok fine watching the finale for this then
>>154412251this but pomni comes around to it eventually
>>154412301Yes she has many many issues, it's what makes her character good
>>154412279>The clues are in the show's writing.The "clues" are vague any highly open to interpretation. If they were designed with universal readability in mind, they're a failure, because apparently you need to be deeply immersed in trans culture to apply that interpretation to them.
>>154412303Those are literally my two posts and I am unironically saying the exact same thing in them...Or at least I intended to. If you disagree and think they come off as having different meaning, that means you believe in death of the author
>>154412303NTA (either of them) but there is an argument to be made for it being headcanon. The character is based on a real person (the author) who has headcanon about himself (being a woman)The parts written from experience, i.e. the struggles, fears, anxieties, ring true, because they're realThe parts that apply the conceit of being transgender (a fake notion) don't ring true because it's a falsehood created by dogma and groomingThat's why it feels like such a bad fit
>>154412320I can agree with that at least
>>154411619>people who defend this shit are EvafagsIt all makes sense now.
>>154411580I still don't see any explicit clues that Jax is trans. It always felt like the writing was deliberately vague so it could fit anywhere on the LGBTQ spectrum. I guess he said "egg" once, and trans community have basically trademarked that term. I've always read him more as gay, or like Kanji from Persona 4; a guy with feminine interests who feels that makes him less of a man, so he overcompensates with hyper-masculinity. The "trans in denial" route honestly feels like the weakest direction they could have taken his character.
