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Komm Süsser Tod Edition

Previous thread: >>154420341
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Rosie has a great ass.
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He is the best part of Hazbin Hotel. Also he was cooler and smarter as a human than as a demon.
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LUTE IS EVE!
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>>154436845
if this is the Komm Süsser Tod Edition then the real reason we haven't seen adam's body yet is because lute will try to re-enact that scene with shinji and asuka in the hospital bed with him.
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>>154436871
loved him... but i got enough of him. i want the Lilith Eden Heaven shit now. move over already, glasses!
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>>154436845
Lute doesn't need a Pride Merch reveal because her outfit is already Straight Pride colors.
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>>154436871
His entire story can be condensed into Big Gay fag.
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>>154436871
He's alright but he's in like the middle of the rankings. Firmly after Adam and Lute and all their groupies.
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>>154436902
you may be onto something tho
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>>154436897
Please, God
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>>154436897
She'll go a step further and ride him.
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>>154436902
Interesting art.
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>>154436897
ewww she's gonna fuck his rotting corpse which was preserved/mummified by Roo? nasty fuckerrrr
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>>154436925
'i'm so fucked up...' while her hand glistens slightly in the light of heaven. what sets her off is rolling him over and the mask detaches, exposing his real face.

>>154436931
like primal s2?
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She needs a good breeding
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>>154436949
He might have not decayed since he's an angel.
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>>154436955
adam refusing to bang lute because he's sure she's a lesbian and while he thinks they're hot as fuck he's still a straight ally so he'd never actually hit on a lesbian is still so peak.
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>>154436955
He needs*
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>Lute decides to spare Vaggi
>Vaggi decides to leave with Abel and Lute to Lute’s surprise
>Lute loses the surprise when remembering it’s literally the Devil’s daughter and the sinners that Vaggie trusted
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>>154436871
What made him want to rise to the top forever? I wish we knew more about his childhood.
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>>154436955
Yes
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>>154436995
His bad daddy
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>>154436995
He was molested as child.
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>>154436982
The moment he finds out she's not a lesbian he's going to sling her over his shoulder and nobody will see either of them for a week.
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Bug Lute makes a lot of sense as a divine defense system cause she’ll be the main holder of the hive mind and quickly produce the armies needed to match up the Sinner population.
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>>154437024
He's dead. So he's never going to find out.
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>>154437024
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>>154437036
Resurrection
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>>154437035
Lute is Eve, actually! Jessica Vosk already confirmed it (accidentally) on twitter. Hope this helps!
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Just picking up on my last comment in the previous thread, if the Exorcists are essentially clones of Eve, then Lute!Eve might be able to take full control of them as puppets/extensions of her will once she accesses her full potential as a demonic angel.

Which would include Vagi.

> Eve: (sat in her recliner on Lilith's beach) "Vajjie, be a dear... if any of those chucklefucks come within ten feet of me, execute yourself. And make sure your bitch watches. Kay? Thanks." (slurps her drink)

Worst part? Vagi is entirely awake and aware of what she's being made to do.
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>>154436982
She's his perfect gf too, she's so cool and fun to hang out with and they have a connection y'know, like she GETS him, it's too fucking bad she's gay cause he'd be all over that otherwise
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>>154437048
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>>154437035
>Fatal flaw
>Once bred, the Queen just wants to keep breeding
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He's a better villain than Alastor. At least he got ambition and achieved a lot more in such a short time span.
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>>154437060
>you will never give adam a little kissie as you betray him and he always knew you would and he forgives you anyway
why fucking live
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>>154437051
I'm a Lute/Eve schizo. I don't think that's happening. Eve doesn't seem have the kind of power that Lilith and Adam have. What we see is it. Vaggie leaving is proof that she can't control them that way. Then we also risk of her copying Lilith (AGAIN) since she controls sinners. She can't do shit.
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>>154437051
That would be such a great concept. It would also make her a serious threat since she'd be in control of ( I presume all) of Heaven's military. She'd be pretty much boss bitch of heaven since she can kill them all if they piss her off.
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>>154437082
Maybe she would have to turn into an ugly bug to do it.
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>>154437118
Shut up matpat
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>>154437082
Oh no, Vagi and Charlie having a falling out is independent of that. Lute!Eve mind controlling her is a knife twist.

And I see your point, but the problem is, she's gotta be able to pose a serious threat if she's gonna become a main villain for say Season 4. Just speculating as to how they may come about.

hell, if she takes control of heaven's army, she decide to splinter off and "do her own thing" with her personal army to get her revenge with Abel at her side.
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>>154437082
Lilith doesn't control sinners. Her whole thing is buffing them with her singing. But they still need to be convinced to work for her. Current Lute might also be a weaker nerfed form. If she has a proper Eve transformation then becoming powerful enough to exert direct control isn't that far fetched.
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>>154437134
>Oh no, Vagi and Charlie having a falling out is independent of that
I'm not sure what you mean by this? I didn't bring this up.

>she's gotta be able to pose a serious threat if she's gonna become a main villain for say Season 4
She's going to seek out the thing that damned her in the first place - Roo/Evil, the tree, the apple, the thing embedded in Hell. She is powerless otherwise. That's going to be her edge. On her own, she has no such powers.
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>>154437066
So basically Eve
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I bet Adam could slurp down a whole can of Spam in one or two bites
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>>154437167
That makes no sense.
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>>154437155
>If she has a proper Eve transformation then becoming powerful enough to exert direct control isn't that far fetched.
Eugh. Enough with the 'powerful form' shit - Lute is Eve is Lute. That's what she looked like and that's what she always looked like (just longer blonde hair and SOME melanin in her skin, because Viv's Eden humans are Caucasian white for some fuckass reason) - that's why they had to emulate horns and shit onto the Exorcist ensemble: she doesn't have those. Now if you want to talk post Roo/Evil infection after she seeks its help: maybe
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>>154437167
>Vaggie leaving is proof that she can't control them that way.

Sorry, I misunderstood that. Yeah, she can't control them while in her Lute form right now. That's why once she does a deal with Roo/Evil/Rosie(?) that's where I think she'll be able to get a massive upgrade and do the things I talked about.

>She's going to seek out the thing that damned her in the first place - Roo/Evil, the tree, the apple, the thing embedded in Hell. She is powerless otherwise. That's going to be her edge. On her own, she has no such powers.

Exactly! Once she does that, then the fun can begin for her. Sorry, I wasn't being clear.
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>>154437202
Lilith is already using Roo.
Lute should be weird.
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>>154437051
>Eve: (sat in her recliner on Lilith's beach) "Vajjie, be a dear... if any of those chucklefucks come within ten feet of me, execute yourself. And make sure your bitch watches. Kay? Thanks." (slurps her drink)
Why did this make my peepee hard
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>>154437202
Idk. I'd add a bit more look distinction between Lute and Eve otherwise Adam and Abel kinda look like massive retards for not immediately figuring out. Maybe a bit more height. That would seriously trip people up.
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How about Lute is a bug and has the powers but didn’t use them cause she feared Adam would be appealed by her appearance. And because he’s dead she no longer has a reason to do it anymore.
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>>154437242
>Why did this make my peepee hard

Adam
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>>154437263
Okay, "bug" talk is officially banned from the thread. Begone, schizo.
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>>154437263
Nah
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>>154437225
Got itttt, yes I can see that. Like I said previously, it even lines up with the previous concept of the Eve leaks:

>Eve wants revenge against Lucifer for being blamed for the original sin
>Eve wants to destroy Heaven and Hell
>Gets forgiven and defeated by Charlie
>Roo is revealed after this, as the next big bad

End of season three, we get the Lute Eve reveal, setting up for season four (the gold season):
>Lute wants to kills Lucifer and Charlie
>Lute is 'an important part when it comes to Heaven and Hell' (per Jessica)
>Lute already considers Sera and Emily traitors 'Only a traitor would consider making peace'
>Lute will seek out the help of Roo/Evil because she has no support otherwise;
>Adam hallucinations may already be Roo preying on Lute
>Lute will try to destroy everything. Forgiven by Charlie blah blah
>Roo is revealed for season five (the red season)
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>>154437287
Probably for the better. It's seems to be MatPat's new favourite thing.
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>>154437244
Nah she's made from the rib, she's gonna always be a midget. All she did was change her hair color/style and eyes. Ofc they're retards: have you watched the show. Viv even said that Adam hadn't realized how much Lute cared about him and Jessica confirmed Lute keeps walls up with EVERYONE, including him.
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Draw Lute as a thicc anthro bumblebee.
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>>154437287
THANK YOU. I can't handle his fuckass cuck and tranny fetishes as it is.
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>>154437296
That's what I can see happening. In season 3, I can see her starting to bond with Abel, especially if he gets her off the hook for her actions in S2.

She might even start acclimatising to her new situation until her visions or events nudge her to take drastic measures: seeking out Roo/Evil/Rosie(?) and tellign Abel the truth offscreen.

Leading up to what I imagine will be another extra long season finale where we have to deal with Alastor, Lilith's deal and Lute!Eve revealing herself and shit hitting the fan.

If the "Abel is a devious shit" leak is anything to go by, he will make a choice to betray the Morningstars for his Momma.

Heaven will now be left defenceless if Eve and Abel take off with the Exorcists to do their thing.
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>>154437373
>If the "Abel is a devious shit" leak is anything to go by, he will make a choice to betray the Morningstars for his Momma.

these same 'leaks' said that Eve's identity was revealed and that the people who were spoiled said they got upset because it was such a good twist, they wanted to wait to watch it properly. yet coincidentally, nobody can say who Eve was. This is a completely unverifiable leak that supposedly came from a leaked work chat. you can find the screenshots yourself and the source is some reddit post that doesn't give too much context. i don't count these as solid evidence for anything
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>>154437302
I find Lilith Eve and Lute Eve to both be really lame twists. They’re basically reference reveals. The difference is that I go with the one that has the Eve visuals going on in season 1. And the Lillith poster has the Eve appearance instead of Lilith’s expected look.
It’s so dull.
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>>154437434
Shut up Matpat.
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>>154437425
1/3
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>>154437296
>Adam hallucinations may already be Roo preying on Lute
mfw Adam is literally the ghost loli from Tangled: The Series
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>>154437494
>>154437425
2/3
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>>154437513
>>154437494
>>154437425
3/3
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>>154437496
YES, that is EXACTLY what I think the Adam hallucination is.
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>>154437475
What? If Lute is Eve. I would’ve preferred no twist at all. Lillith at least has a scenario where Eve does interact with Charlie most of the season to be a much more personal villain than Lute could with the current set up we’ve had for two whole seasons.
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>>154437526

Holy shit, if this is true, then Lute is definitely Eve.
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Btw, I know not everything is a foreshadow, but I dunno, I’d really dig her post reveal form to give her a mighty pair of horns to rival Lilith’s.
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>>154437539
Even further proof that Cassandra's VA needs to voice either Lilith or Roo
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Lute will be redeemed via lesbian energy and become a throuple with Charlie and Vaggie.
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>>154437555
>Headcanon Alert
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>>154437574
This but with Emily and Sera
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>>154437574
>The Bad Ending
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>>154437569
>The only hair that sticks out are the hair sections representing antennas
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>>154437563
And Roo is deffo Roo. Cmon, who else could make Alastor the most powerful sinner in Hell?
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>>154437579
None of that is head canon. It’s the objective reality.
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Post Rosie.
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>>154437611
If Rosie is Roo, then I'm willing to bet they're going to make Evil misunderstood: maybe she wanted freedom from Heaven, while Good is the real villain (like White Diamond from SU) - it'd be predictable, but i wouldn't be too upset.
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>>154437611
Lilith. It’s her power. She offers a device to Alastor that is sound base and wanted Charlie to sing to the cannibals.
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>>154437616
>Headcanon Alert
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>>154437611
*Rosie I meant to say, fucking phone.
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>>154437611
Rosie's Emporium - RE - Root (of all) Evil. The framing here is a good touch
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>>154437513
Ah shit I've seen these screenshots before but never thought about them in the context of the spoiler being Lute being Eve. Damn. If it's an industry discord chat then yeah I can see why the spoiler wouldn't spread further because they're all reporting each other to their employers for breaking NDA.
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IVE GOT IT!

This is how Alastor is stopped in Season 3.

When Rosie and Lute make their deal and she becomes Eve again, then as the first sinner and her heavenly deal broken, her true power is unleashed and She becomes the most powerful sinner in Hell.

And Al gets a much needed butt kicking.
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>>154437693
No matpat.
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>>154437526
>in a way where it's amazing but they wanted it to be a surprise
It's probably not Roo then because that's the most popular theory that everyone's expecting.
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>>154437678
Yeah. It kills the Rosie/Lilith/Eve shit further too because it's a massive surprise, meaning it's not something predictable. Too bad Jessica already spoiled it lmao no wonder she deleted it ASAP
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>>154437711
No no, Roo Eve has zero in-canon evidence, the original leaks don't say that and a former employee confirmed that they are not the same character. they never were. Roo Eve is pure fanon. we know that's out.
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>>154437574
>The worse ending
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>>154437704
Huh? What’s wrong with that? (Btw, Not mat pat btw)
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>>154437742
I think they got confused. Matpat doesn't think that. I got what you were saying.
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>>154437693
I can believe this. What do you think Rosie Roo (in this setting) was having Alastor look for, then?
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Alastor would more likely have used Lilith to empower Vox to bring the strongest sinner in Hell.
Season 2 has Charlie use her voice to make Vox the strongest sinner in Hell.
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>>154437704
>When Rosie and Lute make their deal and she becomes Eve again

Pretty sure it's not MatPat since he would rather eat shit then admit Lute is Eve.
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>>154437785
He's in for a bad time in season three
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>>154437785
The only time he somewhat concedes and says she's Eve is that Lute, a hellborn demon, goes through similar things she does, is a stepmother figure to Abel, and Adam changes her name from Lute to Eve. She's the 'good' Eve and not the original 'evil' Eve lol. creepy ass shit i tell ya.
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>>154437817
I'm telling you he will throw such a shit fit if he shows up here. It's gonna be really bad.
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>>154437817
Nah. The Lilith trading card still has Eve’s design. Lillith is a canon name in the show that will show up at some point.
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>>154437838
>goes through similar issues Eve did
>is a mother-like figure to Abel
>name change

....and how is that easier than her just being the genesis Eve?
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>>154437838
It kinda comes from him being kinda misogynist and probably not having any contact with women.
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>>154437574
lute will be redeemed via lesbian energy and still dates adam (she comes back from the dead and transitions good for her).
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>>154437857
shut the fuck up Matpat. it's been said in this thrad, the previous one, the one before that one and the one before THAT one, that's not Eve: you are assuming it's Eve. we don't know what Eve looks like

>m-muh storybook!

yes, the unreliable storybook that Charlie narrates with secondhand information given by Lucifer and Lilith. the one where Eve has the same exact hairstyle as Lilith in pilot artwork. Lilith was just drawn in twice.

cry about it in the corner and stay there like a good dog. are you capable of that?
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>>154437857
>Mental Retardation
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Come on in
We haven't slept for weeks
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>>154437513
Not gonna lie this one has me really excited.
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>>154437878
Adam is her one and only exception. which kind of lines up with what Jessica said. MAYBE SHE'S COMPHET
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>>154437769
Oh she was definitely thinking “oh you’re gonna pay. Don’t think you won’t pay!”

>>154437785
For sure. It’s MagicMan btw.

And a Lute!Eve vs Alastor fight is thematically perfect! Alastor was able to go toe to toe with the Dickmaster, only just about losing once the latter locked in.

And unlike Adam, Eve is NOT sloppy ;)

Think about that: a powered up demonic angel who is also incredibly battle trained. Al is gonna get those yellow teeth smashed down his throat.
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>>154437860
Simple. It means Lute didn’t always know about Adam and Abel, and would develop her relationships with them as an Exorcist first and foremost.

The name change is supposed to be a step up for Adam to move on from Lillith and Lute to move on to a different life. Plus… for “Adam and Eve” branding.
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>>154437915
She's not fucken comphet. Talk about condescending fake feminism.
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>>154437915
this is why trans woman adam will be canon you heard it here first
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>>154437952
Nah. Lute is Eve. Jessica Vosk, her VA, already spoiled it on twitter by accident. Hope this helps!
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>>154437947
Deer abuse. Something so beautiful I would cry tears of joy from seeing it.
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>>154437969
Gooseworx leave
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>>154437909
Drink some of this
It'll put color in your cheeks
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>>154437953
calm your fucking tits and cock. i was making fun. ofc i don't think she's a lesbian. this bitch is straight as an arrow. which also lines with Jessica Vosk herself, funny enough: she's a straight ally ( a little performative if you ask me but w/e ).
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>>154437947
Wait. Are Matpat and Magic Man different people?
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>>154438006
Nope. Same guy that's just his Twitter/Reddit tag.
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>>154437890
Facts don’t change. Honey. That card will always be my wall I am unable to defeat.

I get it. You want a more interesting story that actually would shock you. But you gotta remember this, and please remember, the majority of people are dumb and haven’t even engaged with fan works and fan theories at all. Even if they’re super talented. They lack the curiosity you and I have.
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>>154438014
I think he just pretends to be into Lute/Eve but idk he closed his twitter acct immediately once it leaked here as Matpat's alt so take it as you will
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>>154438017
>Headcanon Alert
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"Lilith being Eve is objective reality!!!" said the medicated schizophrenic
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>>154438014
Nope. Sorry to disappoint. We’re different people. I’m a Lute/Eve believer. Always found Lilith/Eve a bit boring, especially as everyone jumped on it. On the other hand, I tried to keep an open mind that I could be wrong.

Now I’m about 90% solidly convinced.

So yeah, I’m Magic Man. Not Mat Pat. Find some of his posts… peculiar here, and defiant in the face of any evidence presented to him. Almost gotta admire the determination.
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>>154437693
>And Al gets a much needed butt kicking.
Fuck, I wish I were Al
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>>154438067
And yes, I’m the one whose put forward the idea Eve is gonna curbstomp the ever loving shite out of Alastor.
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>>154438083
This is the design of Lilith that people (like mathew patrick) think is Eve lmao. This has always been Lilith
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>>154438067
Have you seen the Lillith poster Viv made and the white board that had “Lillith” written on it? The Lillith poster matches up with the Eve design we seen a glimpse of in the final show, and the Lillith trending card.

Sure it’s boring. But it’s very clear cut.
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>>154438107
Isn’t that a very old design, btw? Are people not aware characters have got through tons of redesigns?
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>>154438107
Don't forget. Ohhhh yeah Lilith has always been kind of a crappy mom
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>>154438127
Yes yes matpat go over there and color. Ooooohhh Zestial Cain, Oooo Evil Abel Ooooo demon Lute. off with you now
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>>154438128
People like matpat don't.
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>>154438149
Told you I wasn’t him *eye roll*
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>>154438107
>>154438128
Notice it’s spelled L I L L I TH

And not L I L I T H

Magic, look at the Lilith trading card at season 1. Look familiar?
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>>154438174
Yes yes matpat go over there and color. Ooooohhh Zestial Cain, Oooo Evil Abel Ooooo demon Lute. off with you now
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>>154438192
What a weak will you have
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i like how he constantly uses the card as his smoking gun when it's already been debunked rofl
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>>154438203
Yes yes matpat go over there and color. Ooooohhh Zestial Cain, Oooo Evil Abel Ooooo demon Lute. off with you now
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>>154438208
Debunked by what? It says it’s official merch right there.
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If it's one good thing that came out of all this schizo shit flinging is that Matpat actually shuts up and leaves. I prefer the retarded Eve Lute shit than whatever he goes on about half the time.
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Seriously, I don’t get what lead you guys to think I was mat pat. We’re like, on polar opposite sides of the fence.

And Mat, all I’ll say is this: just try and keep an open mind like I do. It’s not the end of the world if you’re proven wrong. If I’m wrong, okay, no big deal. Earth keeps spinning.
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>>154438244
You aren't as funny as Matthew Patrick so if I could only keep one of you it would be him
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>>154438260
Speeak for yourself. I vote for the Magic dude. Mathew Patrick's bit gets old fast.
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>>154438244
The earth is rotting and these souls are a part of it. Endlessly dark imaginations that make God up there come closer to here, to burn it all.
Right or not, that is the reality that will remain.
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>>154438276
This whole show gets old fast. Not even the fan songs are good anymore.
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>>154438286
Take note Magic. That's who you're dealing with.
Best just to leave him flinging his own shit
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Keep it classy fellas.
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Now check this, from Tik Tok:
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>>154438334
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>>154438334
Yeah I've heard of Eve and Rosie being connected: Lute and Roo/Rosie. Obviously. Where's the rest?
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>>154438350
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>>154438317
Madam may I politely request that I suck on your toes.
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>>154438408
Oh my.
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>>154438350
Eve made a deal with Rosie to become Lute???
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Why is Rosie cannibalistic?
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>>154438371
I have seen Vox do that zig zag smile Alastor does.
Maybe he did a deal too.
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>>154438350
>>154438371
>Eve was being kept in limbo by Roo/Rosie
>Eve struck some kind of deal to become Lute and return to Adam at the start of the Exterminations
>Around the same time, Rosie recalls Alastor for 7 years as he's her best asset
I wonder if this is it?
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Is Rosie a wendigo demon?
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>>154438547
Or the boring thing. Lilith Eve.

Although… maybe the Lilith Eve twist is supposed to hide that the one who corrupted Lute was the real Lilith and Eve would be used as the perfect scapegoat, ironically.
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>Lute and Alastor are basically siblings under Rosie
Lol right down to the fuckass bob.
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>>154438597
Are you serious? At this point it's just depressing watching you fumble around so hard.
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>>154438597
Keep dancing monkey! Go go go go!!
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>>154438598
RIB SCAR
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>>154438547
Ehhh, maybe. But it’s hard to believe Eve would be able to hide under Sera’s nose for that long. I just can’t see it without Sera knowing, ya know?

Lute and Rosie are definitely connected. At least.

I will say this. check this out. What do these look like?

Roo sent this apparition.
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>>154438618
nooooo not the fuckass bob!!! maybe that's just her signature on the souls she owns lmao
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>>154438643
What exactly are you pointing out in this image?
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>>154438133
I love the idea that all the old art of Lucifer is him shapeshifting himself taller.
Also short hair Charlie is CUTE.
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>>154438657
The eyes.
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>>154438657
the tears in the backdrop: eyes (I think)
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>>154438334

We need a source
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>>154438697
Kay.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNRwDrAGo/
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>>154438334
>Rosie AND Eve
Does this soft deconfirm Rosie BEING Eve?
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>>154438634
God given you time so he doesn’t have to kill you for acts as this. But you will always take it for granted.
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>>154438750
Hmm, I think the AND implies them being connected more than anything, though there is a vagueness for wriggle room.

It’s Vosk’s deleted tweet that seals it for me.
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Maybe that’s why Lute smacked Vaggie out of the force for sparing a cannibal.
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>>154438757
This coming from you ( a literal waste of seed and nine months) does not mean much.
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>>154438778
So you’ve chosen to be on his left hand then. Whatever.
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>>154438730
Dude do not share tiktok links.
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I'm an honest woman.
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>>154438822
I'm not curious about your masturbation rituals. Keep that shit to yourself you degenerate.
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>>154438837
Sorry they asked for a source. My bad.
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>>154438872
You do realize God wants people that refuse to copy the bad eggs of this world. Why join them when they clearly damaged you?
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Fuck god.
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>>154438837
why?
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>>154438933
loserfer...
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>>154438933
depends, is God as hot as the Speaker for God?
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>>154438960
I'm craving that cloaca.
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>>154438925
Stuffing eggs up your butt is dangerous MatPat. Those eggshells will cause minor cuts and trauma to your anal canal. Plus the egg yolk can lead to infection of it's not properly cleaned.
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>>154438996
You need help.
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>>154438947
iirc if you're logged into tiktok and click a link to someone's tiktok, and never checked your privacy settings to turn off suggesting your account to others, that someone will see your tiktok profile. if you have any personally identifiable information on your tiktok (real face, name etc) you've effectively just doxxed yourself.
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>>154439008
If you have a TikTok account, you deserve to be doxxed
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>>154439008
And it goes both ways.
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>>154438763
That tweet itself is vague. I would assume that the joke parts of it would be important since that’s a common thing.
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>>154439060
No matpat, it's not. you're the only one who reads it that way. keep coping and bending yourself in half over it. she confirmed Lute is Eve.
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>>154439029
>>154439039
tiktok really is just the worst.
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>>154439005
You're gonna need medical help if don't stop doing that shit.
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>>154439075
You act so threatened over applying the whole box.
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Who is Ray?
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>>154439100
Nope. You want to pretend people ignore 'parts of the tweet' because keep deluding yourself - nobody omits it. The whole thing counts. Here it is: >>154436882

She's Eve. cry some more
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Tweet tweet!
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>>154439126
Ray of Hope. A former employee pitched the name to Viv way back when, for the Good deity. so 50/50 chance we may see it come to fruition. it's to contrast with Root of all Evil
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>>154439134
Pretty silly. The Lillith card had nothing attached to it to make it suspicious.
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>>154439163
Your Lilith trading card is not the smoking gun you keep thinking it is. You've already been debunked, you just cover your ears about it.

Go on, cry even harder.
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>>154439163
How about you post this card you're so damn obsessed with and explain in detail what makes you jerk off over it
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>>154439191
We all gotta sit down for this one. It oughta be good.
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>>154439191
It’s “Lilith is Eve” without any additions that make it doubtful.
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>>154439163
Brother is betting the farm on a card. The lack of intelligence is staggering.
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>>154439060
You see, I wouldn’t think much of it she didn’t have a track record of letting some spoilers slip - like the Lute and Vagi rematch.

And the simple fact she deleted it. That’s just too suspicious for me to dismiss. I earnestly think she gave too much away, got told that, went “aw shit” and deleted it before it did too much damage.

It’s her first voice acting gig. We all fuck up from time to time.
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>>154439210
He's grasping onto everything, even when it's been disproven, to keep the Lilith/Eve/Rosie delusion. It's sad to watch but also pretty funny. Season three is going to mentally destroy what little he has left. Maybe then he'll fuck off for good
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>>154439223
for her first gig she does an amazing job. i'd have never known. i guess that's also partially down to richard horvitz as a voice director. great job to both.
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>>154437878
Adam/lute are so much more fun when they are being mildly antagonistic assholes. My headcanon epilogue for them is adam somehow is reborn in hell, and lute quits her job and they settle down in hell together and become a pair of overlords and have lots of fun in turf wars but also mellow out a big and get a bit more buddy buddy with the denizens of hell, still being kinda dickish but less murdery (outside of turf wars)
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>>154439245
She's objectively very good.
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I'm not Eve.
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>>154439223
I have my own suspicions post finding out about Lillith (seemingly an Eve that changed her name to Lillith) that Lute is Eve could be a proper name change from Lute to Eve to confirm the Adam x Lute ship.
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>>154439306
We know it's you Lute.
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>>154439317
It's not. That's such a hard cope from people who hate on guitarspear shippers. I'm a lute eve schizo but i don't give two shits about guitarspear.
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>>154439317
Only someone with severe mental development issues could come to that conclusion.
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>>154439320
Lies.
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>>154439337
We know what you did with Adam.
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>>154439336
Whose show do you think we’re talking about?
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>>154439353
I didn't rape anyone.
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>>154439361
Vivziepop. Not sure how that relates to your mother drinking and smoking during her pregnancy with you but ok.
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Unga bunga!
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>>154439256
a twist on that one shot from 'hell is forever' where instead of charlie, we see fallen lute crawling out of a blood pit, and then sinner adam (but as like that dragon pilot design of the character who eventually became adam) reaches down to help her out of it...

or maybe she can't swim against the tide of blood alone, and she looses her arm and adam's halo and almost gives up, but then he swoops down and snatches her up to safety. guitarspear reprise version of 'loser baby' crossed with 'easy' drops.
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>>154439362
No rape. You just had regular breeding sex with the guy.
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>>154439405
You can't prove it...
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>>154439391
Caveman style.
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>>154439417
Abel exists. Probably also Cain. Maybe also Seth.
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>>154439209
>doesn't provide proof
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>>154439442
Their proof is
>muh trading card
>muh necklace
>muh bangs
>muh dog nose
>muh purple
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>>154439441
Hissss...
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Unga Bunga Eve sex!
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>>154439463
This you?
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>>154439481
No.
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>>154439442
https://www.reddit.com/r/HazbinHotel/comments/1airsif/some_visual_comparisons_between_eve_and_lilith/
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>>154439480
This is getting out of hand. Now there's two of them.
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Adam having the most animalistic sex with Eve
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>>154439508
>Reddit link

Really? Have you no shame.
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>>154439508
Yawn. Lute is Eve: Jessica Vosk accidentally spoiled it on twitter. Hope this helps!
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>>154439520
Caveman sex is one of my biggest kinks. I wish there was more fic about it
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>>154439520
Intense breeding sex.
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>>154439520
Rawrrr
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>>154439535
It's underrated AF. Also perfect for Adam and Eve.
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>>154439535
>I wish there was more fic about it
I found one with Lute but its rape
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>>154439586
Raped by Adam? Or Adam getting raped by Lute?
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I not rape rawr
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>>154439600
Adam turns caveman like and rapes Lute
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>>154439625
Oh. Link?
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>>154439586
The sitaradawn one? I've read that one and jilled off to it countless times. It's in that gray area where it would obviously be rape irl but in fanfic land it's written that she loves it and it eventually becomes consensual anyway so it's easy to turn the ole brain off.
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>>154439633
i gotchu
/works/55700842
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>>154439640
Is that the broad that doesn't like dom women? lol talk about some serious projection. they're weird af
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Want me to sit on your head?
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>>154439661
She's got some fragile weirdo takes on twitter it seems and some of her fics are too much for me (the one where Adam eats Lute's arms and legs and they grow back and then he's like eatin organs out of her stomach was too fucking weird for me and not sexy at all). However some of her fics are bangers
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>ywn have a giant caveman Adam bf that primally chases after and fucks you
why live
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>>154439702
Why did he do- You know what, nevermind. Well. Everyone has their good and bad, i suppose
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>>154439508
Retard doesn't even own his copy of the card to display
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I have a weird feeling Lilith is supposed to get off on season 3 seemingly being innocent to then being revealed as evil in season 4 and 5.
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>>154439818
Why would I buy stuff that has pentagrams on them?
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>>154439829
Im pretty sure S3 is gonna show her being kinda awful and after that she mellows out for the rest of the seasons.
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>>154439840
You are mentally impaired. Literally.
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Everyone yell rawr.
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>>154439877
RAWRRRRR
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>>154439918
That is cursed
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>>154439939
Do you think Adam would like strawberry Dubai chocolate Labubu matcha lattes?
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>>154439829
No. Both in the show and outside commentary have been setting her up as not a good mother. But probably not for a lack of trying or being hateful. It'll be in that gray area.
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>>154440023

Did people seriously not get the hint with the whole "She was so good at ignoring meaningless things... and people" / "Yeah... she was -real- good at that." or Erika's "We see Charlie as this sad girl who just wanted her mom’s affection and affirmation." She's always been this way. And, psychologically speaking, children who relentlessly seek a parent's approval are often responding to emotional distance or inconsistent validation. They try to earn love by succeeding, taking on responsibility, or becoming the person they think their parent wants them to be. That's Charlie with the hotel: she's devoted herself to "Lilith's dream." That's why the Lilith fags are desperate that this is wicked stepmother Eve. It's not: Lilith has always been this way. It wasn't an arbitrary change.
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>>154439399
In my headcanon it's more of lute defying heaven to resurrect adam in hell and willingly getting exiled as a result before the share a tearful lovey dovey reunion and decide to settle down since hell is more of their speed than the adam coming back on his own and embracing amd reuiniting with a fallen for other reasons lute, but i also really like your idea as that sounds super cute too!
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Why does Rosie have her power?
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>>154440175
We will find out in season three.
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>>154440125
I have a feeling Eve and Lute would both have these arcs of wanting to be something else. And the names are critical to this.
Eve hates her name and admires the whole image and power and respect Lilith has. And she takes these elements to herself to become Lillith. While Lute is someone that would want Eve’s position over the life she currently has.
That’s how Lilith has always been and that’s exactly what Eve wanted to be.
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>>154440205
>Headcanon Alert
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>>154440205
>No Matpat. Lute is the genesis Eve, Abel's mother. Jessica Vosk already confirmed this on twitter and deleted it. Hope this helps!
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>>154440205
Lute is Eve, Matpat.
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>>154440205
Sigh. I'm the Lute Eve schizo. Get the fuck off my post Mat. No. Lute is Eve. That doesn't even have anything to do with my post.
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>>154440265
Yes it does. The crazy chick renamed herself to Lillith. That has to mean something.
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>>154440297
Stfu matpat.
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Why is that when sb makes a somewhat interesting post, mathew has to ruin it. fuck all he's such a cancer.
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>>154439667
Maybe
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>>154440297
I agree. Eve is a psycho and in order for her atonement to succeed, she changed her name to Lute. Jessica Vosk accidentally spoiled it. Hope this helps.
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>>154440175
I think she’s Roo.
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>>154440339
Because if he makes his own posts, nobody responds to his dogshit theories which have already been disproven multiple times. He has to respond for a chance for people to respond to him back, even if only to dogpile him. Negative attention is better than no attention.
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>>154440377
Rosie's Emporium -> R.E -> R(oot of all) E(vil) -> Roo

kinda obvi in hindsight i gotta say
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>>154440339
The speculations tend to be less interesting than the answers
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>>154440357
This is obvious to everyone who isn't stupid
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>>154440391
Oh no. I accidentally flipped it. It’s the over way around. All well.
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>>154440391
Nah Matpat. You have zero media literacy. This is why people don't like to engage with you: 'M-m-uh carrr-d!!!1111' Fuck off already.
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>>154440391
Shut up matpat.
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>>154440401
Enter: MatPat
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>>154440409
Look at this: >>154440407
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>>154440390
Then why does Rosie's energy have gold light?
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>>154440125
Oh, absolutely. Lilith is going to occupy a very morally gray space. I don't think they're going for a full Rose Quartz situation, but I also don't think she's going to be Mother Gothel levels of manipulative or outright evil. An old pilot-era leak from someone who worked on the project (obviously I'd take it with a grain of salt because it's old,) stated that Charlie was never supposed to be born, and that something "evil" was involved in her conception, implying Roo. There's a reason Charlie has Roo's aesthetic, why she resembles Roo's old concept design in several ways, and is the only child Lilith and Lucifer ever had despite being together for millennia. Charlie's is meant to be an anomaly hence why Lute/Eve calls her an 'abomination'
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>>154440494
Rosie is likely a follower of Roo instead of being Roo herself.
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>>154440516
She’s just going to be evil.
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>>154440524
Or a creation of Lucifer or Lilith. I like the theory where she was made as Charlie #0 basically.
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>>154440205
>Mental Retardation
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>>154440541
Nahhh I don't think so desu? Lilith is Viv's Miss Independent Kween - she'll be "complex" but still good. Probably.
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>>154440544
Doubt it. Rosie looks too much like the cannibals and Alastor to imply her form is shaped by the same force as them.
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>>154440524

She could be one of the Elders, aka Lucifer's older sibling: It can be difficult to admit to things you're not proud of, especially if those things hurt the ones you love. She fucked up, sure. She's flawed. But, hey, who down here isn't? If there's any I've learned, it's that words are cheap, but actions, they speak for the truth.
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>>154440591
She’s too weak
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>>154440591
Hense why she refers to herself as aunty?
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>>154440576
I'd argue she looks like Lucifer the most. Plus it's canon he made the goetia, who have 'sparkly' pretty magic / powers. In the patreon it was confirmed he made the sins (though this may have been changed). He's also a seraph: creating life is their thing in this universe
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>>154440604
So is Lucifer because of his restriction. and?
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>>154440633
She gotten out powered by Vox.
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>>154440613
nooowwww you're getting it.
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>>154440641
So did Lucifer because of his restriction. and?
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I love Rosie.
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>>154440735
Most people do anon. Most people do...
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>>154440641
No, she didn't. It took Alastor having his staff broken for Vox to just barely outpass him in strength. Rosie isn't a Sinner in the traditional sense.
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Hey Rosiefags: How would you feel if Rosie turned out to be an alt persona Lilith crafted for herself to go off grid?
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>>154440763
I don't care, so long as she keeps the accent
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>>154440763
Not one of them. That would depend on Charlie’s age.
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>>154440641
wtf, when? this never happened.
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>>154440641
Did you even watch the show?
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>>154440777
It said Rosiefags. If you're not a Rosiefag, don't fucking answer.
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>>154440782
Season 2 final. Rosie can only make Alastor as strong as herself.
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>>154440813
His staff was broken. Are you stupid?
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>>154440747
Lilithfags: If Rosie is Lilith in disguise... how would that work for you? Do you want Lilith to have a different voice actor? Does she change voices altogether? Is the Rosie voice / accent fake?
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So real talk, people, how do we want the Lute!Eve reveal to go down? Like, halfway through the season or saved for the big jaw-dropping finale.

For maximum effect, save the name drop for the finale, but have the hints and cues build up and up throughout the season until we're just begging for them to say it.

> Lute: (barely able to contain her manic laughter) "Charlie! ... Charlie, we've been through enough, already. Do me a kindness... call me by my real name."

> Charlie: "I don't know *what* you are!"

> Lute: (cocks her head) "Hmmm, don't you?"
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>>154440929
Reading this got me hard
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What if Rosie Lilith actually doesn’t go back to her OG form and decides to stick with her Rosie form because it looks more like Lucifer.
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>>154440929
Oh my fucking god you've posted this same exact script so many times. enough already.
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>>154440947
I don’t even get the dialogue. It’s so nonsensically bad.
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>>154440929
Cringe. It'll probably be glossed over at the end. plain and simple. just as abrupt as Lilith calling Charlie.
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>>154440944
Rosie isn't Lilith. Viv already confirmed that the real Lilith called Charlie. The Lilith in Heaven is in fact Lilith. Also funfact, Lute's VA confirmed Lute is Eve: had to delete it bc of NDA. Hope this helps!
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>>154440947
Yeesh, alright, fun police. Just been working on and improving it. No big deal. Chill
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>>154436845
Lute sexooo
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>>154440997
My fucking dick, dude
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>>154440997
Damn! Where do you find stuff like this?
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>>154440961
It's a reference to the Owl House. The Lute/Eve schizos don't claim this one.
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Is Rosie really an angel or a demon?
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>>154441123
Yes
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Rosie is so hot.
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Honestly, you want a mildly good Lute!Eve line, I’d go for something like;

> “You haven’t lost your touch, LuLu. You actually went and sent a *snake into my FUCKING GARDEN!”*

> (Lucifer blinks and looks to Charlie)

> “The fuck she talking about?!”
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Whats going to happen if Eve just appears with Lilith in heaven in a scene?
Will you explode?
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>>154441395
Lucifer WAS THE SNAKE.
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>>154441426
… I was having her mention Pentious. A new snake in her heavenly garden.

Forget it. Didn’t land well. Swing and a miss.
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>>154441453
Ok.
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>>154441426
okay and?
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>>154441424
We already did.
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>>154441516
Literally though: yeah we already did.
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>>154441516
Lilith is a lot bigger
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>>154441567
Right so anyway: Lute is Eve, Jessica accidentally spoiled it. Viv confirmed this is Lilith and debunked swap theories. Hope this helps!
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>>154441567
Well clearly: look at how Eve is bending down to face her and Lilith still looks tall in the chair.
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>>154441607
I would figure that Eve would be slightly smaller than Lilith. But all well.
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Where's my hat?
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>>154441630
Yeah like I said, look at how Eve is bending down to face her when she says "You're going down there and stopping that bitch." Obviously she's a lot smaller than Lilith. She's made of Adam's rib bone, she's not going to be a giant like they are.
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>>154441453
The first winner in Hazbin is a snake. Abel. And then Pentious is the first redeemed sinner.
Maybe Lute and Angel Dust are supposed to parallel each other by the insect themes. The one person they would want to kill is a moth. Vaggi and Valentino.
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>>154441693
The first winner is Adam: this was confirmed in the show. Nope! Lute is Eve, Jessica accidentally spoiled it. Viv confirmed this is Lilith and debunked swap theories. Hope this helps!
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>>154441693
>Headcanon Alert
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>>154441693
Just why. Why does matpat keep getting so much wrong........
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>>154441746
Real answer: He's apparently genuinely schizophrenic. Idk what kind but he needs medication and is (actually) autistic, not sure how severe. He's also apparently unemployed, hence why he's always here. The bug thing is new: if he thought he was undetectable before, I'm not sure what would compel him to take up on talking about something so specific that it's now an instant giveaway.
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>>154441660
Well, unless her current form is a nerfed version of her true potential, just saying, she might get a boost by the end of season 3.
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>>154441806
With Roo, most likely, yes. But her current form is her form: given that she's an angel and is competent in combative skill, this IS her upgrade from her human form.
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Must be hard for Alastor to smile all the time.
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>>154441860
ok
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Trust me when I say that the people always delude themselves to what is front of them just because they want a different answer.

Abel is a question of not inheriting the first human soul status that is answered by a horrible outcome admitted by the devil’s mouth.

The wall is there with the paper in its mouth and people want to choose to ignore it, because they hate the wall they can’t crawl over and what is written in the paper.
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Hey guys, did you see this deleted tweet by Lute's VA: https://x.com/cyjammy/status/1751608597929234504

I'm fucking excited for Season three!!!
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>>154441959
Cool.
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>>154441969
I am. I want to see Lute get that Eve name.
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>>154442007
She already has it: she changed her name to Lute, actually! Hope this helps!
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I'll be honest, I keep forgetting Lilith is a sinner.
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>>154442041
She isn’t. She is in Hell but sinners are supposed to be people that died before.
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>>154442053
Nope! She's a sinner. Vox confirmed this within the show.
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>>154442028
She definitely didn’t have that name before. She would rather die than let that happen because it’s Adam’s gift.
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>>154442063
That could just be the characters themselves lacking proper knowledge.
Husk for example.
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>>154442068
Nope! She's the genesis Eve, who took the fruit and is Abel's mother. Viv also debunked switch theories, so Rosie/Lilith/Eve isn't a thing. Hope this helps!
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>>154442087
Nope: there's a reason sinners like and listen to her. Because she is like them. She also was a human: the fall alone would have killed her, even if Lucifer cushioned her.
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>>154442107
They love her more than Eve.
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>>154441820
Perhaps.., but rule of three and all that. If she is the first sinner, then technically, that alone should made her very powerful, right? That’s why I wonder if the deal she made with Sera to enter heaven entailed surrendered her power as an ancient sinner.

Vosk herself described her as a demonic angel, right? So you combine those two things, you’ve got a potentially incredibly powerful being. All she needs is Roo’s help to unlock the cage.
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>>154442119
Well yeah obviously. Eve is Adam's second in command and loves to slaughter the sinners in Hell.
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>>154442128
>If she is the first sinner, then technically, that alone should made her very powerful, right?
According to... what? That's you assuming she should be. I argued she's already powerful.

>That’s why I wonder if the deal she made with Sera to enter heaven entailed surrendered her power as an ancient sinner.
There is no evidence she has 'ancient powers' just because she was the first sinner.
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>>154442147
I dunno, just speculating. Because for her to be a very powerful threat as a main villain for season 4, shes gotta be in a much stronger position than she is now. In raw power at least.

So I guess it depends on what the deal she makes (if she does) grants her.
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>>154442189
Most likely, and this is cross-referencing with the alleged leaks, she's going to make a deal / co-operate with Roo, the thing that damned her in the first place.
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>>154442211
>>154442189
Narratively speaking, Lute has already exhausted most of her options. She has no authority anymore, no army, & she's effectively under Sera's and Abel's watch after already attempting to take matters into her own hands. Personally, I don't think she's going to rally the remaining Exorcists. Season 2 made it pretty clear she's on her own. The thing is, we also know her arc spans all five seasons. She can't just sit around isolated forever. At some point she's going to need an ally. That leaves a few possibilities. Rosie is an obvious candidate, especially if the hints about her become relevant. Roo is another, assuming they're separate characters. Alastor also isn't impossible; Amir has said he's intrigued by Lute, and by his own admission he avoids spoiling himself unless another character is going to interact with Alastor. That doesn't confirm anything, but it's enough to make me raise an eyebrow. Then there are the Vees. They had an entire sequence involving Exorcist holograms, which felt oddly specific. It could have been nothing, but it also wouldn't surprise me if it was quiet foreshadowing for a future, albeit reluctant, alliance.
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why do people also forget Lute got hardcore triggered when Vaggie called her a ""failure"" - of course she's Eve.
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>>154442434
Because they either thought that: 1, she was referring to herself as a failure or 2, trying to force it to be toxic yuri
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>>154442310
Are you seriously not thinking Abel is her ally? He’s the best shot Lute has at doing anything.
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>>154442189
I think Lute and Lilith will be used in season 3. And season 4 is supposed to be unique to the other realms because of how redemption has progressed.
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>>154442647
Right, courage the cowardly dog over here is going to be her ally. He's a useless fuck. Even if he wasn't, it's clear he's not going to go along with her plans: he literally stopped her from killing Vaggie. Abe is cowardly and useless, but he's not a fucking idiot.
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>>154442702
sigh inb4 Matpat: no, he's not filled with a desire for revenge, no he's not Lucifer's child, no no and no. stop replying to my shit with your shitty fanfic
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>>154442702
The only two people Abel looks up to are Adam and Lute. He barely respects Sera at all to pay attention to her and is daring enough to try to make moves on her sister in front of her.
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>>154442754
Your Abel is a shit fanfic.
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>>154442842
replied to the wrong person?
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>>154442813
>He barely respects Sera at all to pay attention to her and is daring enough to try to make moves on her sister in front of her.
>Headcanon Alert
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>>154436871
>He is the best part of Hazbin Hotel
He's a lot like Brother Day from the Foundation show in that respect. Hell, I'd argue him and Hazbin itself share a lot in common with Foundation:
>Season 1
Bit of a mixed bag, but you can see the potential. Vox and the Vees are the highlights.
>Season 2
Better all around, and Vox and the Vees are the standouts; so much so that you wish the show was focused on them and not the Hotel.
>Season 3
If the pattern holds, it'll be stronger than season 1 but not as strong as season 2, but Vox and the Vees will continue to be the standouts, and Vox will have an amazingly kino redemption arc.
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>>154444132
The Vees are like the show remembering that the people are hell are supposed to be bad until they have to be good guys too.
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Sooo... supposedly the Lilith/Eve/Rosie leaks were by a "disgruntled" employee who also leaked Bee's design and Kesha as her voice actor a month before her debut. Does anyone know where the hell these leaks were ever mentioned? I can't find shit. The only thing I can find are those stupid chat logs with no name (by Chai) of all people - those are supposedly the first 'mentions' of this leak, but I don't see them mentioning Bee's design?
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>>154444403

I think that was fake, actually. AFAIK, there are no records of SH or Viv suing former employees for breaching an NDA. I wasn't there when the Bee stuff happened tho.
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>>154444425
It all traces back to the Chai person. Now whether you think they're credible or not is up to your discretion. I think the Bee leaks supposedly came from them as well, but Chai will not say who it gave this information, They just say they come from an extremely credible source, so I find it dubious at best. The only thing that IS somewhat credible is Rosie owning Alastor's soul.
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>>154444403
I'm scraping through the /co/ and /trash/ archives and can't see any relevant mention of Beelzebub in this timeframe. You'd think that a leak like that would hit the chans and drawfags would be making lewds of it.
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>>154444403
>>154445085
Okay, if you search for Kesha from before Helluva Boss Season 1 Episode 8 what you see is a lot of discussion of a rumor that that:
>Viv put a reference to a Kesha song, or even an entire Kesha song, into the episode
>Viv is in trouble with Kesha's legal team for it
We've got the Kesha connection but nobody has hit on the correct guess (Kesha is voicing a character).
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>>154445085
See: >>154444583
Yeah, I scraped through and couldn't find anything specifically mentioning Bee. But I think i found the source, anyway: https://www.tumblr.com/chaifootsteps/738017334379347968/potential-spoilers-for-literally-all-of-hazbin?source=share
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>>154445155
>"And I think Rosie is actually the real Lilith?" / "Actual Lilith is Rosie... I think?"
lmao

>"And so Lilith is BFFs with Alastor"
That obviously turned out to be bullshit.

So even in these leaks, they're not sure who the real Lilith is LMAO. This is the gospel people swear by? loool
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>>154445155
>Leaker is an insufferable cunt who dedicates their blog to "Vivziepop criticism" and TADC smut fic
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>>154445155
So we know this person was not involved with Viv any more by the time we reached HB Season 1 Episode 8 (released 24 June 2023).
Did this Beelzebub 'leak' actually get POSTED before she was revealed? Because it looks like this person posted it afterwards as proof of how legit their source is.
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It's pretty notable that the 'leak' comes from Vivziepop allegedly talking about plans in a group call and not from any production work done.
Hazbin seems to have been greenlight by A24 in mid-2020:
https://x.com/A24/status/1291781153066643456
If this staff member left in 2021, still lots of time for the plot to change. We know Adam and Lute as we know them are essentially A24's characters and were not in Viv's original plans for the show. Makes sense that the original plans for Eve wouldn't take them into account.
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>>154445461
She only wants her poor husband to be well fed. Starvation is a bitch.
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>>154436882
Then that means Lucifer fucked Lute.
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>>154445478
It doesn't and even if it did she made up for it by letting Adam have loveless sex with random women for 9000 years.
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>>154445507
>It doesn't
In this universe, Lucifer fucked Eve.
So if Lute is Eve, then Lucifer fucked lute.
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>>154445590
It is not confirmed that Lucifer fucked Eve in this universe. 'What I had to offer' refers to the apple and then Lucifer made a lewd joke alluding to fucking her because he's trying to piss Adam off and it worked. It's on the same level as a fucked your mom joke.
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>>154445478
>>154445590
Eh no. Why would you trust the guy who constantly lies?
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>>154436902
>vaggi_lute_fat_tiddies.jpg
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>>154440929

But nah, man, I get what you're trying to go for here, but it doesn't work. Lute!Eve isn't a Belos character. Definitely some ideological parallels, but not so much as a character.

I'd probably compare her more to... Raoul Silva from Skyfall, if I had to choose. This is a deeply personal vendetta against the Morningstars and all of Hell. Sure, I imagine it will deteriorate into a "fuck hell, fuck heaven, fuck all of them" scheme where she'll attempt to bring all of creation down with her, but you get my point.

It's personal. It always was, and these make for so much more interesting and visceral stories.
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i've been watching the japanese dub of hazbin and it's extremely cute that lute calls adam 'boss' but also extremely weird that adam uses 'watashi' as his 'i' (for example, when he tells lute not to shush him) when that's a really polite, gender neutral and formal term when he comes across as more of an 'ore' or even 'ore-sama'.
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>>154442434
>>154442452

Lute!Eve is gonna be one of those characters where, post-reveal, you're gonna look back and see all the things you missed because you weren't being directed to see them.

Even Gravity takes on a whole new meaning.

Everyone sees Lute falling down as foreshadowing her own fall. I think it’s meant to represent the fall of man. With Adam waiting for her to walk out of the garden with her.

Side note; Vox seems to have a real hangup with the word 'failure', too, if you pay attention to his dialogue.

>>154442310
I'm guessing Rosie/Roo as the safest bet, because she'd most likely know how to get in contact with her if she's Eve.

As for Abel... Abel is going to be key to her character development, I think. He *might* fall into line with her once he learns the truth. If Lute is smart, she will use this to her advantage, especially if it's established how alone Abel feels now that he has no family left (his other siblings were born and came to heaven long after he died; he never got to know them) and misses his mother.
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>>154446358
Japanese Adam is a gentleman. It's actually a secret sign for something.
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>>154446364
Would be interesting if would go in the direction of shitty mom behaviour comparison. Lilith and Charlie Vs Lute/Eve and Abel. Ones who's kinda neglectful and wants to distance herself from her family and the other one which demands perfection from her child and total obedience.
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>>154446370
he's also easily one of the best adams, generally. most of the adams are good but he's got a really good drawl to his voice. i wish the subtitles were actual translations and not just the english script, i'd love to see how the songs and lines get translated and adapted for lip flaps across all the languages.
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Heart of Stone from the Six musical is such a good Lute!Eve anthem
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Just imagine a Jessica Vosk cover. Aaa
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>>154446403
oh my god his japanese voice gets so cute and soft when he tells lute to chill before the big fight. i need to see how other dubs handle it.
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>>154446358
I've been watching the italian dub (because that's the one I pilfered off a friend's computer. Thankfully it has the english track as well) and all the VAs sound 10-20 years older than the english ones bar Husk, who funnily enough sounds younger.
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>>154445656
Sera didn’t say Adam was the second human soul to enter heaven. Lucifer was being serious.
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Interesting to think that Vaggie is so devoted to Charlie and thinks being Charlie's perfect partner is so important because those values were instilled in her by Eve, the original helper.
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>>154446538
Fuck off MatPat. Nobody gives a shit about your NTR fanfic.
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>>154445371
Nah. It’s happening.
And I’m bored of Roo and the obsession of trying to make an Eve that loves Adam to be antagonized so heavily for four seasons straight. It’s not cool. It’s actually lame.
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>>154446618
Oh man that would be so funny since the Flowertunes haters who like Chaggy would be forced to eat shit.
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>>154446689
What are you trying to say? You worded it pretty weird.
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>>154446701
That the leaks and what is in them will remain in the final show.
Also… the imagery with Lute and her golden arm heavily implies she is powered by the opposite force of Lilith and Rosie. She’s going to be different from those two hoes.
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>>154446618
i really hope vaggi gets a 'shit, i'm exactly like lute' moment when it comes to how attached she is to charlie. like maybe she thinks charlie is dead for a second and we hear gravity's melody in the BGM until it turns out charlie's okay.
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>>154446719
Ok matpat
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>>154446693
Eve making a direct comparison between her relationship with Adam to Vaggie's relationship with Charlie sounds like something Viv would do to show how awesome and powerful Chaggie is.
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>>154446491
I love how lucifer sounds like an old man in the italian dub
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>Serpent Seed and Lillith Eve means Abel didn’t look up to his biological parents but God’s intended power couple instead.
I’m not sure why people hate it so much.
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>>154446812
1. It's not related to the show in any way and all that crap is your lame ass headcanon.

2. It would fucking suck. Which is obvious since you came up with it. I'm sorry to tell MatPat but Vivzie is a more talented and creative writer than you.

3. Lute being Eve is much better from a writing perspective because it would make her have depth unlike your shitty fanfic where Eve is a one dimensional character.

4. You're an annoying douchebag and we're tired of you repeating the same debunked and non existent talking points.
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>>154446794
YES. I absolutely love these images. They fit so well with Adam and Eve. Post the one with "Daddy will protect you kitten".
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Personally I like having Matpat around for the ambiance
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>>154446928
I really don't. He just slows down any meaningful discussion by inserting his autism.
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>>154446909
The idea that Adam loved Abel despite of his horrible origins and Lute will fill in the spot of his life Eve refused to be in is “terrible” to you.
You don’t understand love at all.
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>>154446962
As far as thread schizos go he's harmless and entertaining. Maybe you've never hung around a thread with truly bad thread schizos
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>>154446979
Pretty sure that's just some weird projection of yours. Lute being Eve and wanting to stay by Adam's side after countless years is a better portrayal of true love than your shitty NTR fanfic.
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>>154436871
>write a dark morally mysterious character
>thoroughly explain, disect and humiliate him to the audiance
>wtf everyone thinks hes a gay fag now???
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>>154446923
This kind of shit? Extremely Lutecore
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>>154446995
What's a truly bad one like?
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>>154447050
>morally
morally ambiguous
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>>154446995
A thread without a Schizo is like having good internet.
A thread with a truly insane Schizo is like having no internet.
A thread with a Schizo like MatPat is like having slow internet. He's just frustrating.
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>>154447059
Been in threads with regulars who cut themselves, post pictures of the cuts and threaten suicide every 2-3 days
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>>154447058
Yes. There's also the "Shitting by yourself beautiful?"
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>>154447041
Abel is the cuck baby. And Adam raising him as his own for Abel to be the one that wants to inherit his will the most is actually… wonderful. Adam had the choice to abandon Abel like Eve wanted to, and he didn’t.

Lute being her own tragic woman that never had anyone like Adam before till she met him is also deeply wonderful. It shows us the difference between Roo and Heaven’s God. Their God brings together people of tragic circumstances into one complete family.
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>>154447074
Deep demon possession. Wouldn’t be surprised if anyone here ever ends up like them or is secretly already doing it.
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>>154447112
>Headcanon Alert
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>>154447078
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>>154444444
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>>154447308
That is the most awkward circumstance.
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>>154447330
What a based fucking post to win the get. I kneel
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>>154447761
Season 4 Lute
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Lute’s appearance looks like a remix between Eve and Lilith.
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>>154447785
Lute looks good with long hair.
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I just realized that the only backstories season 2 explores are Pentious, Vox, and Alastor and only Alastor’s backstory seems to matter.
This season is so filler it’s unbelievable.
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>>154447903
It’s a development I see her having when Adam is with her again
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>>154447980
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Abel is a fat fuck
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Abel is cute.
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>>154447980
You mean you didn't like the Vees? Impossible.
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>>154448040
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>>154448044
If Trump is Vox, then who is Adam?
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>>154448074
Bernie Sanders and Alastor is Obama.
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>>154448044
The Vees are good villains but good characters aren’t immune to being badly used.
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>>154444132
>Vox and the Vees are the highlights
No they're not
>and Vox and the Vees are the standouts; so much so that you wish the show was focused on them and not the Hotel
Nope
>Vox and the Vees will continue to be the standouts
No
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>>154448429
there's something very funny about how so many people argue that the exterminations were bad and adam was awful for doing them but at the same time kill valentino off so quickly and without any mercy/attempts at redemption in their content. sometimes they make angel kill him, sometimes husk, and i think i've even seen canon rewrites that have adam/exorcists kill him. like literally just using the same forces they condemn to do their narrative dirty work.

like oh the morals of the show don't count when it's a guy you don't like? some people ARE beyond redemption and DO deserve death? valentino is just a fundamentally bad person that you're certain will never even want to try and change and everyone is better off with him gone? some people really think the big problem with the exorcists is that they just didn't kill enough of the 'right' people and it's hilarious.
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>>154448933
Very true (most of the fanbase runs on rules for the but not for me) but then again Adam would smack the shit out of them without waiting to hear them out so it checks out. He wouldn't even do it because they're problematic, he'd do it because they're demons
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>>154448967
I’m more surprised by Adam not killing Alastor in season 1 when Alastor bragged about killing him.
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>>154448055
So sexy.
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Lmao
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>>154438350
Makes sense that Rosie's connected to the exorcists. She's a cannibal. She eats her own.
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>>154449661
Rosie is the kind of person I expect Lute to be screwed over by in the deep past.
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When will we get the Amazon Prime Cinematic Universe featuring Hazbin Hotel, The Boys, Alexa and AI generated Kindle books?
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>Nicki was able to capture Sonic by using Proxy Droids posing as Tails and Sally. Once he was captured by nicki. Instead of killing him there, she wanted to see how long he could last against eradicators and demons. Which he lasted pretty well. Until the bastard Lute showed up.

>Nicki “OH COME ON! YOU BITCH! GET OUT OF MY GAMESHOW!”

>Lute was able to dispatch the rest of the forces sent to kill Sonic. As Lute wanted to Ambush nicki and didn’t know who this blue hedgehog was? Lute was confused until nicki said.

>“THATS IT! WHO EVER KILLS THIS ANGEL GETS A MILLION CREDTS/MAMMON DOLLARS!”

>Then portals were opened everywhere, now Sonic and Lute had to prepare to fight every demon that Nicki can launch at them!!
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If Rosie is Lilith that would make her similar to Adam in wearing a more demonic face over their human one. Resembling Lucifer, someone she loves.
That makes me wonder if Adam’s masked appearance is based on Abel’s true form.
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>>154450013
Nobody cares about your fanfiction MatPat. Take that shit somewhere else.
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>>154450077
Your heart has unresolved troubles in it. Would you mind if I can take you to those spaces for your heart to relax? A comforting world of sound.
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Matpat ASMR
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>>154450322
I'm not interested in hearing him goon while he talks about his headcanon.
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>>154450400
You need to be in a purer environment:
https://youtu.be/8dOM5ULn63U?is=FgWEL4CuGXrwjQ7g
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>>154450425
I'm not gonna click any suspicious links from you MatPat .
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This and Helluva Boss are such bingeable garbage I'm fairly certain Viv had it mad in a lab. Watched not first seasons already and it's so bad. Can't stop though, it's like I'm watching that anime Vampire Knight again. I'm just waiting to see how much harder they can make me groan in cringe induced agony with another musical number or millennial joke
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>>154450534
I think the funniest scene has to be in the season finale of season 1. When Charlie and Vaggie were singing while killing exorcists. It’s incredibly tone deaf.
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>>154450454
The YouTube link you mean
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>>154450534
i'm pretty sure the show's not gonna end with incest between siblings who were already born from incest between siblings but i mean you never know...
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>>154450783
Eh who?
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New thread

>>154450906
>>154450906
>>154450906
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>>154450871
yuki and kaname turn out to be blood siblings (actually kaname is like her ancient ancestor possessing the body of her older brother or something so it's a real matryoshka doll of incest), their parents were also blood siblings lmao.
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What if a demon said FUCK



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