Losers editionPrevious: >>154620238
>>154630771First post for the GuitarQueen!
How long until we get leaks?
Did anyone consider maybe it's not some Biblical reference in Season 3 that is what sold Amazon on the show but rather how interesting its plot development was?
>>154630807Never. Maybe after SDCC. Who knows
>>154630793The twists themselves pack a lot frustrating elements. She did talk about Alastor and Charlie and how they would react and be in play for the conspiracy. And their interactions with them.It was a time where they barely developed anything and it was all talks.
>>154630804Number 2
>>154630804
>>154630857I’m simplifying the scenarios to how bad it actually is. Like at that point why even pretend Lute is Lute when the Lute identity doesn’t at all matter or get respected by Abel and others?
Soo... I am thinking of putting some document or something together. Just for quick reference. It just sucks that I can't put everything on it.... But anyway, what is it that you guys like to see on those things? Do you guys like to see screenshots from the show, a summary, or should I just post the quotes without my input as is? I might get to that next weekend.I don't know, I myself think Jessica's tweet says everything that needs to be said. That's just me though. (No Bugcuck, You get no say in this.)
>>154630905>Bugcuck Alert
>>154630910Technically it's just a demon face. It could mean anything. I assume she isn't experienced with NDA type stuff though so maybe she didn't realize she wasn't supposed to reply to plausible theories
>>154630880
>>154630910There are some impressive Google Drive Spreadsheets there. (As in in general, not for Hazbin)Visual reference is fine but don't make it a clusterfuck.
>>154630910I will have a say. What’s your explanation for the whole Lillith situation? Would be it that she’s actually Roo and forms herself to whatever Eve, Lucifer, and Adam desires and provide Lilith her desires.
>>154630905You are literally saying nothing. Stop being fucking retarded before you open your mouth. Your parents had he patience to deal with a disappointment like you but we are not required to do so. Fix your shit or fuck off.
>>154630771First accurate tag.
>>154630934
>>154630949Bugcuck. That's just Lilith in heaven. Lilith the first woman not someone else. Stop being a retard.
>>154630933I understand. And I'm not saying it's direct confirmation, obviously. But at the same time... I mean, a smiling devil emoji is used to (generally) communicate mischief, playful or suggestive behavior. That some sneaky shit is going on. I think that's a pretty strong indicator. It's as good as smirking emoji I reckon,
>>154630934Honest question. Why ship a dead man?
>>154630933That’s why I ignored it and didn’t take it seriously when I first saw it. It’s something being latched on to because the show itself doesn’t really offer any strong implications of this twist at all.
>>154630949>I will have a sayDid you guys hear that? Sounds like a fly buzzing.
>>154630985The Lilith we see is implied to shapeshift to an Eve like form. I’m not sure why that would be irrelevant.
>>154630991Because despite him being dead said ship has more life than Chaggie or most of the Fujo Yaoi slop.
>>154630910Ooh please include screenshots, links to interviews if you have them. I like pictures. And if you're using Google Docs then for goodness' sake make a throwaway Google account for it! Do not use your main.
Why does Bugcuck keep jumping on Looty's dick every time she posts something. Did you guys notice that he was the first person to respond to her after she announced she was unbanned. That is incel behavior. Are you upset that the popular girl isn't into you, Bug? So your resort to pulling her hair? Good God.
>>154631012No. That's just your headcanon with zero fucking evidence. That's just Lilith in heaven. That's it. Viv literally confirmed it. She's writing the show not you .
>>154631018Noted. I will try to use screenshots! And not make it a clusterfuck of course.
>>154630991He is not dead for as long as Lute is being plagued by visions of him
>>154631018Turkish Adam
Where's my Lute Eve buddy, the one who was into mpreg. Miss that bitch.
>>154631047That's actually funny.
>>154631038We see it two times in the season 1 era. And the second one makes it too clear she can make herself look like Eden Eve
>>154631028He's a massive attention whore and probably has major issues when it comes to women. Judging from how he talks about and understands jack shit about them I'll deduce he doesn't really interact with women much.
>>154631047Alex said in an interview that Lute has Adam's corpse in her house, and he's just rotting away lol iIt was a joke obviously.I'm starting to actually believe he's going to come back. They talk too much about him.
>>154631080>Bugcuck Alert
>>154631083>has major issues when it comes to womenThat's saying a lot around here.
>>154631100If people on 4chan are actively calling you out for your incel behavior, you're fucked. There's no hope for you. That shit is crazy.
>>154631100Look at the shit he says. It's not even normal incel shit. Its more psychotic and weird.
>>154631107What are my problems with women?
>>154631075Milky doesn't seem to be here yet
>>154631111Lol if incels look at you and call you an incel, there is zero hope
>>154631107That reminds me of some retarded incel that said a lesbian couple ruined his life and made him hate women. There's just no fixing that level of incel.
>>154631111This is a show starring crazy evil women.
>>154631136Jesus fucking Christ
>>154631111Checked. Probably a schizo yes you're right.
>>154631136How did his life get ruined by the lesbians?
>>154631138And yet you're incredibly creepy and weird towards real life women. Your excuses suck dick Bugcuck ( much like how you suck cock).
Doing my monthly check-in on these threads to ask how's everybody doing? Feeling healthy? Physically, emotionally and mentally?
>>154631161Eh I'm fine just a bit tired from Bugcuck's shenanigans.
>>154631143The real kicker is it was a cartoon couple. He wasn't even cucked by a real woman.>>154631150He said something about being too close to his real life when he was young. He's just a crazy incel.
>>154631158I get hated for refusing to enact any kind of stalking on a woman.
>>154631161Doing okay. It'd be great if we could get discussions going without that bugcuck fella. Every time they get somewhat decent, he comes in like a bulldozer. The obvious solution is to ignore him, but he makes that hard sometimes. Staying hydrated though. How about you.
>>154631158Bug cock specifically.
>>154630771
>>154631138Technically there are no crazy evil women in the principle characters as of S2 unless you count Niffty, they are mostly in the supporting cast.
>>154631161Tired as fuck but it's probably just that time of the month.
>>154631179> He said something about being too close to his real life when he was young. He's just a crazy incel.Cartoon lesbians?How?
>>154631202>NifftyBest character never did anything wrong total goat/mvp.
>>154631161Decent, could be better but also could be way worse.
>>154631221Niffty is the GOAT. We need more threads about her. Literal pocket pussy even.
>>154631161I just now finished downloading all the Hazbin soundtracks in flac because I'm tired of enshittification of everything and want to hoard it all offline now. So tiresome. Hope you're aight anon
You guys got any nice Mimzy art or is she still utterly neglected on all fronts?
When do you guys think we'll get the season 2 Blu-ray release? I need to hear the commentary
>>154631247Soon apparently. Anyone know of anyone who's planning to rip it ASAP?
>>154631242What is even the point of Mimzy. Was she seriously just put in there a callback/ easter egg to zoophobia? If it was for the sake of Alastor's backstory, Vaggie could have done that like she did in the pilot
>>154631218That's my question. It's some serious schizo shit. Like he seethes endlessly that some chick didn't get with the main character. Goes on how he will never be happy. That he hates all women because they are dumb bitches ect. He's just crazy. King of the incels.
>>154631271I can try, no promises. At best I can transcribe them. But I'm sure someone will drop them as soon as they release. Bet on it.
>>154631283Basically the opposite of how Lute impacts me.
>>154631304What?
>>154631304That's certainly the better option.
>>154631321Her anguish in gravity alone gets me to reflect a lot on my role and purpose as a man.
>Bugcuck might fuck off out of sheer humiliation ( kinda like what happened with Jax). Lilith glazers will probably become part of the hatedom because they will believe it's justified ( it isn't) because Viv is misogynistic for not making Lilith perfect.It's kind of crazy to me that the Lilith blazers, at least the ones I've seen, want her to be perfect and wonderful and the best mom ever, and they just want Eve to fuck off lol it's supposed to be the opposite. Lilith is historically a man rapist baby eating demon. Eve is generally the good one, stupid, but good overall. Also what's with Viv making all the Eden humans Caucasian. God that shit is boring.
>>154631359>Adam reflecting a lot on being a dad. He would do this in Hell.
>>154631371You think I wouldn’t want an outcome of Eve ended up being Lute and not Lillith? I disagree with it because don’t see it happening on a theory basis.
>>154631359Adam is hiding the fact he wants to make more kids.
>>154631403Uh huh.
>>154631417Well, anon. You think Lilith Eve wouldn’t be incredibly demoralizing for me? It was ever since season 1 when I got to see Adam. I look at Lute as hope for that horrible circumstance.
>>154631411I get it. Trying for a baby right now and that breeding kink is really a something else
>>154631469It’s how God designs us lowly creations. He always wants more.
>>154631462>Bugcuck Alert
>>154631359Is Hazbin Hotel implying Adam has always been like this or did he only become this way later after getting to Heaven?
>>154630949>I will have a sayNope, you shan't. Good day
>>154631505We don’t know. The whole set is a dumb mystery box that was going to be open in season 2, but no.
>>154631505The fandom SAYS that the show is implying he's always been bad. I don't think so though. Visually when he's "demanding control" he just looks like he's excited to show Lilith something, or suggesting something. But it could have been many better ways to convey demanding control. Pretty sure he wasn't always like that. Not that I wouldn't mind if he was, because I can easily see him being a spoiled brat, basically, but no, I think he was pretty chill. I think Lilith was probably the problem child, so to speak.Or who knows, they both could have been horrible disasters and they just didn't get along with each other
>>154631462Yeah man I'm sure you're not gooning to your creepy NTR fanfic. Your fetish is evident Bugcuck.
>>154631538It’s honesty hard to say Adam is bad when his female company are constant disasters and he refuses to say anything bad about them unless they get people killed.
>>154630788Helluva Boss 'fans' only like the imaginary version where Anon goes to hell and dates Loona, Octavia and/or Stella. They don't watch the show.
>>154631557>It’s honesty hard to say Adam is badNo, actually, it isn't.
>>154631565Tell me one thing.
>>154631570Bugcuck shut the fuck up. Why do you have to ruin fun discussions.
>>154631557Can you fuck off Bugcuck? You ruin all discussions with your nonsense headcanon. Watch the show and then start talking you larper.
There he goes again, pulling her pigtail and pushing her off the seesaw.
>>154631585Because he's actually a larper who doesn't watch the show.
>>154631555>99% of Adam x Lute content>Adam and Abel content>0% of Lucifer, Eve, and Lilith content besides theories about them being bad peopleWhy do you think I like NTR?
>>154631592He can't help himself. Looty is like him except with a fucking brain and can actually back up her schizo rants. It at least makes for entertaining reads. I don't know what the hell he's going on about half of the time.
>>154631281Well cause she isn't one of Vizie's onceler edgy boi's, has genuine flaws that could make for cast contrast and is a female character who isn't canonically rail thin shaped in the show and has a less is more design, of course Vizie wasn't gonna utilise her much remotely. Though I'm also apparently the one weirdo who actually wants to see more of Mimzy even if it's purely so she gets more smut.
>>154631600Because you're a creepy cuck fetish weirdo. It's pretty obvious from what you tend to obsess with.
>>154631557Honestly, yeah. After going through Lilith and then Eve stupidly eating the apple, I am surprised he isn't worse about women.
>>154631614Don't compare Looty to Bugcuck. He's basically our equivalent of Chris Chan and she's a normal fucking human being.
>>154631659I have more frustrations with Adam not putting his foot down. Especially against Sera and Lilith. He respects them too much when they don’t respect him and whatever he treasures.
>>154631659Eve probably got tricked. He ain't gonna fault her.
>>154631687Bugcuck is being weird about women again.
>>154631645So you’re throwing out just because and not actually based on what content I actually like.
>>154631688True but show uses Lilith as the first women. In OG, being only Adam and Eve, it made sense for Eve to be tricked.In Hazbin, she got tricked by her husband's ex wife and the guy that is the reason why she is the ex.
>>154631713They literally just explained how they threw that out BECAUSE of the stuff you like. Are you illiterate as well?
>>154631687If you had a request you needed to present to someone important in Heaven and your choices were Sera or Adam, which do you think would be more likely to actually hear you out?
>>154631697It’s not weird. His actions and whoever he enables dramatically impact the whole female only army of exorcists, then Abel, and all of Heaven.
>>154631697When isn't he though.
You're all dunking on a literal special needs guy. Iit's just not worth it. If you saw him in real life you'd feel kind of bad for him and help him carry his groceries at the store.
>>154631676I have never felt so loved.
>>154631724Really depends on how much she was informed by the angels/Adam and possibly manipulated by the Morningstars. Heck they might have feed her some lies about how she's actually inferior to Adam and Lilith and that eating the apple would make her more like them.
>>154631731nta but both suck. It is not like Sera actually listened at first either, until Pentious went to Heaven.And to be fair, Adam actually listened for 30 seconds until Charlie started showing the crayons and mixing things up.
>>154631751Real talk is he actually special needs? I know someone said he's actually schizophrenic, like.. needs medication. What else? I think I also heard he is a repressed homosexual and was raised in a cult?That's uh. That's tough.
>>154631731Adam because I know how how Sera handles the lower classes too well.
>>154631751No since judging by his belief that people only dress with one type of clothes and never change hairstyles he must probably stink to Hell and back. My nose is too sensitive for that kind of stank.
>>154631790He is probably just accustomed to older cartoons where most characters never did wear anything different as that would require multiple style guides and they were made on the most shoestring of budgets.
Honestly, I like bugcuck/Matpat. It is harmless and it drives some people insane, which makes the thread hilarious.
>>154631775Apparently he also has a brother who became trans. They apparently don't get along. The Jax troon reveal pretty much mindbroke him and he stopped spamming the TADC threads out of shame.
>>154631775He is partially deaf and if you heard him do vocaroos he had this cadence to his voice that suggests minor learning disability.
>>154631819Got it. That makes sense. Well now I'm just depressed. No wonder he comes on here. Probably doesn't have a lot social interaction outside of these threads. Even if it's negative attention, it's still attention
>>154631814Eh, TADC finale was shit, so he didn't miss anything.
>>154631812He's shitting the thread and he's painfully unfunny. Like he's just depressing at this point. Doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.
>>154631841That it was, that it was. Horrible turn of events.
>>154631843You guys reactions are also the same thing over and over again but I am not judging.I am here for the GuitarQueen, GuitarPrincess, Adam memes and gooning while seeing what kind of mess Vivziepop makes.
>>154631790Yeah, that is the kind of belief someone with a minor learning disability would have while struggling to understand that people can change their hairstyle and still be the same person.
>>154631843Honestly, I'm a little skeptical because in the past he actually has shown thorough understanding of other theories - yes like the Lute Eve theory for instance. He just doesn't like them. He could just say that? I kind of feel like it's a whole bit. Who knows.
>>154631841He kinda had this weird idea that Jax was the main protagonist and that everything he did was justified and normal. He pretty much ignored the show and created his own version of events in his twisted mind. He also believed that the Jax troon thing was a trap to influence the youth towards self destruction.
>>154631751Trust me. When you see me in real life, you would be shocked about my appearance and presentation.
I wonder how many of you have hung out in a 4chan general before because Matpat/bugcuck is really not bad by 4chan general standards
>>154631887>He kinda had this weird idea that Jax was the main protagonist and that everything he did was justified and normalUnfortunately, Jax was one of the two main characters.https://www.reddit.com/r/theamazingdigitalciru/comments/1r9sckl/gooseworx_confirms_that_pomni_and_jax_are_the/So I wouldn't blame him for thinking like that. Even if I don't like Jax.
>>154631887Okay to be fair... To be fair, the setup for that show was pretty fucking wonky. A good majority of the fandom, if not everyone. I came across, thought that Pomni was the main character, and we were getting everyone else's story through her. Goose later confirmed that, in fact, Pomni and Jax were the main characters, which left everyone really confused. I can't tell if Viv or Goose's writing is worse
>>154631922Admittedly I have not. How bad does it get? I'm a bit nervous to ask. Honestly though, I would expect a lot more schizos for Hazbin/Helluva
>>154631790Charlie and Vaggie wear the same outfits and accessories and for two whole seasons of Hazbin hotel.
>>154631942Ok. Angel Dust doesn't. Adam doesn't. Vox doesn't.
>>154631941>Honestly though, I would expect a lot more schizos for Hazbin/HelluvaWell, this isn't actually the Hazbin/Helluva general. This is a /co/ splinter. That should be your first clue
>>154631954I'm a newfag. Can you explain that to me. I can't find a link to the hazbin general.
>>154631868Do you just can’t differentiate real life with cartoons at all? Live action has this benefit of designing the outfit or buying it for a hundred bucks. While it will take weeks or months to design an outfit that would work in animation before animating it.
>>154631954Give the anon a break. Half the people here wouln't even know /trash/ thread is the main one.Hell, I don't even visit it that much since while I like jerking off, I don't need to jerk off that much and my girlfriend is already angry at me.
>>154631973The actual hazbin general is /hhg/ on /trash/. I strongly recommend you don't post there until you've lurked enough to get a basic grip on the culture.
>>154631075>>154631131i'm here i'm just distracted reading fanfiction (this one works/56047627) and so far it's okay i guess but not really what i want in my adam (breedable, submissive is optional if purely for kink purposes).
Which parent does Charlie inherit her nose from?
>>154631982... That's not... That's not how that works
>>154631973Go look for /hhg/ Helluva Hotel General #3465 in /trash/ It is NSFW. The whole /trash/ board is.
>>154631992Oh I've been there plenty. But it's a lot of porn.. And spam, I assumed this one was the main thread or whatever.
>>154631995Based. Earn It is a great fic.
>>154632016NTA but I took one look at that place and ran screaming back here
>>154632016Got it. Thanks
>>154631887>>154631927>>154631923Honestly. I thought Jax was supposed to be an entertaining side character to act a a cool youthful guy and he was in episodes 1-4. Related to him by his playful personality and curiosity. He got more attention in episode 5. And then it became the Jax show where it’s revealed to be an entire larp.I really wanted episode 9 to be about Caine and Abel because episodes 7 and 8 made him feel really cool like they’re building up to an epic finale with Abel at the seat. Because I didn’t get that. I just didn’t bother.
>>154631995You should write some.
I think we are starting to become a general in our own right.
>>154631952Adam does. He has his outfit till extermination day and that outfit he wears in extermination day is themed to Eden and has the purple and gold colorscheme. It’s cool but not really related to character designs.Angel, Val, and Vel are supposed to be fashion characters and they change their fashion across the episodes. But those designs can take a toll on the production in ways you don’t expect. So in the S2 finale, you only have a few characters in proper outfits for Vox’s event and the rest going by their regular designs.I like animation a lot but I am too aware of its limitations.>>154631954Oh yeah. Those guys are too coom brained to function here.
>>154632015That isbexactly how it works. Even animating water takes a long time in animation.
>>154632045yeah there's nowhere near enough adam posting there it sickens me. >>154632062i've thought about it but from my own forays into fanfic in other fandoms what my brain conjures up is never what appears in the word document. high paced flight sequence becomes 'he flapped really hard and went faster' which if you replace the f with a p is what would probably happen if i wrote my ideal adam porn.
Hooray Adam posting
>>154632115You literally have zero idea what you're talking about and pulling shit out of your ass. But okay.
>>154632149Anon. Have you ever drawn something in your life, tried animating, or saw how professional animators handle their animation process before? You will need some experience to realize how much effort goes into it.
>>154632172Bugcuck shut up already.
/hhg/ actually stands for Helluva Hotel General because it covers both shows. I guess Hazbin Hotel General is still up for grabs.
>>154632147This has to be before the body suit reveal via Abel.
>>154632182Just say you don’t know.
>>154632188Hey so I'm retarded. Is this an actual link, or is this like a specific thread on the trash board? I think that's where my confusion is coming from.
>>154632147silly birdie.
We could just call it /hazbin/.
>>154632195Nta but you don't either dude. Quick spazzing out
>>154632214That seems pretty straightforward. I like it.
>>154632200Recurring threads tend to get nicknames that sound like board names. /hhg/ is the name of the recurring thread which is found on the board /trash/.
>>154632231Ohhhh got it. Is that part of the reason they use that template thing? So those series of threads are referred to as hhg, am I getting that right?
>>154632239it's hhg because it's Hazbin-Helluva General.
>>154632254Thanks
>>154632239Correct, those series of threads on /trash/ are known as /hhg/. Generals often have template OPs with links and resources but I see no reason we'd need one right now.
>>154632215A two episodes of SpongeBob costs more than a million dollars to make.
>>154632264Are you fucking insane? That's not even remotely correct. They would file for bankruptcy if that was the case.
>>154632279https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748703362804576184420111427388#articleTabs%3DarticleThey get the money from merch sells.
>>154632279>>154632264Apparently per the Wall Street journal, one episode of costs $600,000 to $700,000 to make.
>>154632298It’s kinda insane how many anons in here are incredibly naive about the animation process and the costs behind them.
>>154632309Sigh. No Bugcuck, I wasn't agreeing with you. You really don't know what you're talking about. I was just providing the numbers for everyone.
>>154632147Adam seems like the kind of guy to wear jeans that are too baggy
>>154632358Do you even know what a character sheet is?
>>154632373it's so he can fit lute in the pockets when she gets tired.
>>154632538Lute says if she fits she sits
>>154632538He is the pocket
Replying to a comment from the last thread:> I love Sera and I love the Eve Lute theory. It's kind of obvious that she knows? The way they talk, it implies they've already spoken about this very topic before. I'm pretty sure she's the one that lets Lute remain in heaven in the first place. I don't know why people think Lute would have the means or the brains to sneak yourself on there on her own. Sera treats her like a problem child who messed up once and hasn't been able to make it up since.To be fair to Sera in that scene, that was right after Lute made a complete jackass of herself during the trial. Think it’s got more to do with her behaviour that just the apple gate thing.If anything, the face she agreed to grant her entry into heaven would indicate some affection on Sera’s part. She and Emily even tried to appeal to reason to her during the trial, when they had no reason to— seriously, her knowing Lute is Eve can be the only reason she’d tolerate her constant outbursts and grandstanding in that scene for as long as did.My headcanon is that Sera might have been the one who created Eve from Adam’s rib if we wanna go for a more tragic layer to when the shit hits the fan.
>>154632670It feels more like Sera is using Lute and doesn’t take Abel seriously aside from using him too.
>>154632670I don't disagree with any of that. And yes I'm fully aware she was treating her the way she was, especially after the way Lute way he behaved during the trial. I just meant in general, she treats her oddly. Both of them with each other. And yeah, given that she made Lilith and Adam, I'm pretty sure she also made Eve
>>154632806If Sera loved Lute, she wouldn’t make her a lieutenant in the first place.
>>154632824That's a nice headcanon Bugcuck. I'm interested in the canon material. Thank you.
>>154632878I am interested in the canon material and I always keep asking Sera why she thinks it’s a good idea to keep Lute into that spot regardless of whatever Lute ends up being. Eve, an Eve replacement, something else entirely. I just wouldn’t have the heart to do it. And instead Sera just goes woe for me towards the speaker instead asking her a single thing about Lute and Abel.It just makes me feel so wrong.
Why are idealistic, open characters like Charlie and Emily so magnetic?
>>154632926Ok.
>>154632930They’re what a lot of men want to see in girls.
I have a really weird theory. It's a little out there, but just bear with me and think about it for a moment before calling me crazy. What if everyone just is who they say they are, and no one is secretly anybody else?
>>154633009That’s what I would prefer in Hazbin because the madness of secretly being this character and that character is legitimately a really awful experience. If Adam is a guy divorced twice and has a new girl to go over it, just go with it. If Lilith is evil, just go with it.
>>154633009To some extent, big reveals with huge spoilers possible are a crutch. They can be revelatory and lead to great audience experiences, but what is more difficult and better writing is to create the same feeling gradually through the slow build of a genuine plot without massive swings of big reveals.
>>154633009Lute being Eve isn't some sort of identity swap any more than Vaggie and Vaggi are. So yes, even in that definition, she is who she says she is. It's not hard.
>>154633098Lute being Eve would definitely be concealed from the audience and thus constitute what he is speaking of.
>>154633101Again, even by that definition she is who she says she is. She just has a background history that hasn't been spoken about until now. Rosie, who is an established character, turning around and saying she's Lilith, yet another established character meaning, we have context, we have something to go off of, that would be an identity swap. Which Viv already debunked.
>>154633114Anon, no. Lute being Eve is secret identity BS.
Honestly I don't trust Vivziepop to pull off a clever twist in a satisfying manner anyway. We now have two seasons of absolutely slapdash writing to look at and gauge her competence.
>>154633165I would prefer for characters secretly being messed up concepts than items that would enable her soap operas into yaoi world.
>>154633009The thing is… it’s not a case of pretending to be somebody else. If Lute is in fact Eve, then ‘lute’ never existed. It’s just the guise she took to slip into heaven without the baggage of her name or people asking the seraphim, “wait… where’d she suddenly come from?”She isn’t pretending to be another established canon character.Plus, you simply don’t post and then delete this, especially when you gave a record of giving borderline spoilery interactions with fans prior - ie the Lute-Vagi rematch.
>>154633218> The thing is… it’s not a case of pretending to be somebody elseIt fucking is by definition.Making up false identities and being them is pretending to be someone else.
I feel like Eve needs to be a more important character than Lute. Her position near Adam makes sense but why not just call her Eve from the beginning?
>>154633272Yeah. That’s exactly what I think.And the anons go about how infamous the Eve name is as if there aren’t a bunch a winners with really awful histories attached to them that are still in heaven.
>>154633272>>154633296Bugcuck quit talking to yourself. Lute is Eve. Jessica Vosk already confirmed it. I hope that is helpful. You're welcome!
>>154633233Lol it literally is not.
>>154633430Is every anon that doesn’t support the Lute Eve agenda a bug to you?
This person is a really great artist: https://x.com/didiyaoyao/status/2076820624752656830?s=46
>>154633218Funny thing is that, he gets it, he just doesn't like the theory. I would not bother explaining it to him. You can explain it a thousand different ways, and he'll close his ears off. But yeah even for someone who is not into the heaven characters, I feel like it's pretty clear. I read that interview where her voice actor says that she's not a who we think she is or some shit, then she said something about how there's a surprise regarding her,, then she does this tweet, deletes it.... I mean, pretty did giveaway imo
>>154633491There's another artist that I like, but they don't really post often. Something with Doll, I forget the name. We need more Lute/Eve artists
>>154633515Why do you always forget to bring up the Liltih Eve show material that is featured on the trading card? That’s a huge reason why I can’t board the train at all.
>>154633569Silence Bugcuck
>>154633569There he goes again, listing the card. Everyone prepare yourselves. (He's been proven wrong about this several times by different people. Let's see what he says this time).
>>154633584Theories are supposed to address the oddities around them. By removing this critical context, you’re being dishonest to everyone.
>>154633569Yes yes Bugcuck. Ooooh Zestial is Caine ooooo Lilith is Eve. You're so smart. Okay now let the adults talk
>>154633594>We’ve proven the trading card wrongNo you didn’t. Not a single time.
>>154633602Yes yes Bugcuck. Ooooh Zestial is Caine ooooo Lilith is Eve. You're so smart. Okay now let the adults talk
>>154633491Right. Anyway! Yes I love this artist too. They really get her expressions really well. I hope we get to see more of these artists surface once season 3 happens
>>154633616>Bugcuck Alert
>>154633638You do this every time you are cornered.
>>154633662Not the person you responded to. People aren't humoring you much anymore dude. People just tag team and trolling you at this point.
>>154632042What's it about?
>>154631028I have no idea.
Guys, remember you're talking to a special needs schizophrenic who has trauma, needs medication, was raised in a cult and is closeted with his sexuality. At some point it's just sad.
>>154633680Weaklings always stick together till their final earthly breaths.
>>154630991I'm almost sure now that he's coming back. And not just as a hallucination.
Has anyone attempted to make the population/extermination numbers make sense or should I just resign myself to the fact that the show doesn't consider that important?
>>154633725I don’t care about your life story.
>>154633741I've seen a couple explanations. But the general consensus is that it doesn't make much sense anyway. The only possible explanation, which is plausible in my opinion, is that humanity's population isn't as large as the real world counterpart. Vox had every reason to say millions or trillions of people were exterminated each year, so it's pretty interesting that he goes with 'thousands' meaning, I don't think he's lying. There's just probably not a lot of people in hell.
>>154633765Maybe Vox is detached from the sinners.
>>154633773Don't think so.
I want Vaggi to get a better girlfriend. Charlie sucks. The end.
>>154633765Yeah, that's the thing that made me ask. Whenever they talk about the exterminations it's always "thousands" dead. Even Lute, who we can assume is the best of the best only got 275 last time. I think the only way it makes sense is if Heaven has like a 99.999% percent acceptance rate, which just makes the people who actually end up in Hell look that much worse.
>>154633775Are you sure? What would Vox do to get himself invested in how many people actually died in the exterminations. For him he was having a sleepover.
>>154633811And then remember, this supposed extermination was one of the most brutal, according to carmilla and her charts. So... 274 is apparently really high? The math doesn't really give unless, again, there's just not a lot of people in hell, meaning Humanity as a whole on Earth is just not as densely populated as we think it is. That's really the only plausible explanation.
>>15463383110000 exorcists could kill 2000000 sinners every year
>>154633819He gains power proportionately to his popularity with Hell's population, and runs a business empire. He probably has the most accurate demographic stats of anyone in the setting.
>>154633855There's not a lot of Exorcists. And we know they didn't die every year or anything because Lute says as much in the first episode.
>>154633858Exactly.
>>154633858But he’s ultimately selfish. And the writers are ultimately stupid.
>>154633886Where did you read a non-selfish motive in that?
>>154633886??? Where did the person say he wasn't selfish. Are you being purposefully dense or what.
He makes me so happy. I miss him so much
>>154633922Glad he got fridged for Lute/Eve to be honest. I don't know how much more of that Fizz voice I could take.
>>154633914Vox is detached from the horrible events he displays to the sinners and is mainly in it for the presentation. It would be a surprise for him to actually record how many sinners died instead of checking his ratings to see if they’re still solid. But that’s ultimately me putting more thought behind his words than the writers can conceive Hell.
>>154633931Fag
He IS going to voice Abel for the remainder of the seasons right?Viv is not going to pull a Ke$ha with himRIGHT guys?
>>154633959This isn't Helluva Boss. They're not going to replace him.
>>154633959He booted in stupid quickly.
>>154633944>It would be a surprise for him to actually record how many sinners died instead of checking his ratings to see if they’re still solid.No, it wouldn't be. The other person explained it to you. >But that’s ultimately me putting more thought behind his words than the writers can conceive Hell.No, you're actually putting less thought behind his words. Thankfully you're not a writer on the show, so you saved us the headache. Thanks for pointing it out.
lets say patrick stump does get replaced with someone else, who would you choose to be abel's new va?
>>154633986Within two hours, apparently. I don't know if he watched the show beforehand? He must have been a fan to agree so quickly. Glad we got him though. Patrick has amazing range both for singing and for voice acting. He voiced a couple of characters on robot chicken. You couldn't even tell it was him most of the time.
>>154633959Lmfao!
>>154634004Nobody. He'd be mute.
>>154633986>>154634005I find that adorable, idk why. I might be biased already since I'm a Fall Out Boy fan
>>154634023I fucking love Fall out Boy. Every time I hear something about this guy, it just makes it better and better.
>>154633991Well. How is he going to record the deaths. Technology is still limited and he doesn’t have the man power to actually own and run Hell as his kingdom till season 2 to record and datamine the whole world himself.
Patrick needs to voice a character in Helluva Boss
>>154634004A damn good impersonator.
>>154634030are you fucking serious
i heart patrickposting
Jeremy Jordan does wonderful as Lucifer. But I'm mourn the possibility of weird Al voicing Lucifer, at least once upon a time. That would have been dope. Hear me out, just humor me for a second: Tom Kenny as Lucifer. Just using his normal voice basically. I kind of fuck with that.
>>154634053He is literally Abel lmao Did they model Abel after him? No... They couldn't have right? Because by the time they would have asked him to do lines, that means they had the character animated already?
>>154634030Holy larp.
>>154634057Bill Fagerbakke as Alastor
>>154634081Jokes aside, if you've heard his non-patrick voice for other characters, like that one guy in Batman beyond, he doesn't do bad for a villain role
>>154634064>Both Abel and Adam are model after their VAs
>>154634047For Vox to even get a decent measurement about the deaths that occurred in Hell in an environment of rapid sinner growths, he would have to somehow own and manage every section of the pride ring and hire enough man power to keep in track of who died in the exterminations. Which is basically establishing a whole expensive system just to measure what happens once in a single year instead of investing harder to his entertainment enterprise he has to manage 24/7.
>>154634126Damn that's unfortunate for their VAs.
>>154634057Weird Al is a Christian. No support for being the devil himself.
>>154634145Hey so, do you even know who Vox is or did you think it'd be funny to just larp in on here. Nice job buddy. Say you haven't watched the show without actually saying you haven't watched the show.
>>154634156Nah. He apparently didn't want to do it because they had too much swearing. Not his forte.
>>154634145>Which is basically establishing a whole expensive system just to measure what happens once in a single year instead of investing harder to his entertainment enterprise he has to manage 24/7.No. Not at all what that means.
>>154634153Fat Stump is Viv’s reference for Abel.
>>154634157Vox isn’t a god. He needs his technology to do anything and his peak of power in that and influence that would enable him to more easily record sinner deaths was in season 2.
>>154634179I love Patrick. But why all the white people in Eden? Viv could not make her white fetish any more obvious..
>>154631237Insanely based
>>154634198Maybe Cain will be black
>>154633959Patrick literally called them up and asked if he could be in the show. Similar to James Woods playing Hades, he's likely happy to take a pay cut just to be involved.It's not the same as Viv having to pull strings to get Kesha to record over Skype for five minutes before realizing Amazon isn't gonna cover the fee for having her reprise full-time.
>>154634175If you had to record a genocide, how would you do it.
>>154634198>Viv could not make her white fetish any more obviousGood
>>154634237No, he's not Zestial bugcuck
Black Cain playing jazz to spite against Adam
>>154634239Bullshit. They called him. The hell are you talking about. Quit making shit up.
>>154634258Patrick stunk fangirls
>>154634260No you fucking moron. Viv recounted the story. Get your facts straight
>>154634260Stop being homophobic
>>154634179kek
>>154634198>white fetishThat's just being human.
>>154634250A black Cain becoming a black spider that spanks Latinx ass sounds way too racist.
>>154634268I’m not against you.
>>154634286Not racist enough.
>>154634296Bugcuck thinks Abel is Lucifer’s bastard kid.Black Cain would be the first one to declare racial superiority and create the Nazi culture to genocide against half-breed angels.
>>154634179Would.
Black Cain being the first Hitler in existence.
That onstage kiss between Amir and Brandon was so fucking retarded. Pisses me off every time I see it. Holy shit. Is Amir that repressed?
>>154634380I’m glad I don’t remember it.
>>154634179True
Given that Adam looks like Alex, Abel looks like Patrick, I can 100% Viv, making Eve look like herself
>>154634416Her art used to have so much more whimsy. Does she even still draw?
>>154634425Everything around us tends to decay. Beauty in art is one of them.
>>154634416That would be such a cringe power move.
>>154634398lmfao the tooth gap will never stop being funny
Has anyone ever looked at the L I L L I T H poster before.
>>154634653Shut up Bugcuck
>>154634416I would hate it. I could see it though. But I'd still hate it.
>>154634653Looks washed up.
>>154634921Washed up as in poor quality? I gotta wonder why nobody's scanned it properly. The glitter makes it really hard to see.
>>154634954Not in quality. But her colors look washed up. Especially her hair.
>>154634954Do you seriously not have it?
>>154635017Excuse me?
>>154635029Do you not own the Lilith trading card?
>>154635017Why did you ask them like that. Are you stupid. When did they even fucking say that.
>>154635034I never said I did or did not own the trading card. What the fuck are you on about?
>>154635063>>154635071If it's his theory's most important piece of evidence why doesn't he own it? You'd think he'd invest a bit of money and buy it just to fully check it IRL.
>>154635099Oh is that why he's spazzing out at me? For fuck's sake. Goddamn he's so fucking weird.
>>154635122Actually. That isn’t me.
>>154635122Also. That post over there was talking about the poster that said Lillith on it. Not the trading card. I have no idea why that dude is so mad at you.You can find it in here: https://hazbinhotel.fandom.com/wiki/Lilith/Gallery/Official_Artwork
>>154635170Me neither. Fucking weirdo. A d thanks for the link!
To anyone who isn't Bugcuck: Viv has spelled Lilith's name "Lilith, twice, right? In that old artwork and on the whiteboard? Are there any other instances where she's done that?
>>154635188I honestly don’t think so. The main reason I realized it might matter is because a radioapple fujo pointed it out.
>>154631819>>154631835Yeah he has confirmed on several occasions that he has a hearing impairment, On /hhg/ he once had a semi lucid rant about how having having some kind of physical imperfection or disability (from birth defects to male pattern baldness) doesn't mean you're defective or were made wrong, guess he was referring to himself
>>154635248Now I feel bad.
>>154635212Sorry I meant "Lillith" - and yeah I e read that guy's Google doc. Mostly skimmed it, and.. Maybe this is not accurate but it read like really incoherent rambles vaguely connected to whatever screenshots they were providing. It's odd. If it's the person I'm thinking about, they are adamant that the radioapple is canon but then they clown anyone who says the same thing. Like they try too hard. I don't know
>>154630949No, you don't get a say.
>>154630950He won't stop doing this until his theories are disproven, unfortunately. So we've got a good long while with him
Objectively, what is the best Adam ship? I want to say Guitarspear, but only because the spindlehorse crew have been shipping it pretty much since before the series started airing. I'm 90% sure they are endgame. Whether she dies or he is resurrected somehow. It makes sense if she's Eve too, like duh, no wonder. Which makes me think... are they supposed to be like the healthy version of Lucifer and Lilith?
>>154634198Kys nigger lover
>>154635289I think it's supposed to be ironic? Like, if she really is Eve, then it's kind of funny because in this universe, Adam and Lilith were the intended couple. Lilith left, went with someone that wasn't made for her. And then Adam went with someone who, although technically made for him, was, again, in this universe, the backup plan or the hastily thought out plan. (I'm sure the angels didn't think Lilith was going to leave, so it's not technically his "true" pair.) Maybe it's supposed to be funny because Lilith didn't want to be with him, but she got the short end of the stick. Whereas Adam didn't? I don't know. Just thinking out loud.
>>154635282I want to see what he'd come up with next after s3 back when s1 was airing and he was known as Adamschizo, he came up with messiah adam and the vox mask theory, that the exorcist helmets itself corrupts its wearer, I think some part of him still believes it after the abel thing
>>154635188probs viv being tarded again
>>154635317I keep telling him that's great fanfiction material. I don't know why he just doesn't do that. I'd rather read it about that than have someone yell in my face trying to convince me it's canon.
To my Lute/Eve babes... Back in season 1, when Adam and Lute's masks glitched, do you guys think that meant anything? I wish I had more friends and animation so they could give me some context or clue. Disclaimer: don't reply to my shit Bugcuck.
>>154635329His Darling in the Franxx theory was that the final episodes are so shit because the characters changed the story last minute instead of following what was foreshadowed in the storybook.Similarly he predicted that Henry Emily was a bad person well before secret of the mimic came out, although not in quite the way he was describing
>>154635346You know for a fact that when it revealed that Lute is Eve (among whatever else) He along with a lot of other Lute larpers are going to say this shit was inserted last minute. A lot of people will, even though Jessica has been saying this shit since 2024
>>154635363Nah he's gonna come up with something crazy and I got popcorn prepared for it
>>154635317>that the exorcist helmets itself corrupts its wearer,Back in the pilot era, in a call, Viv did indeed say that the Exorcists are controlled by forces beyond. She never gave further context than that, but the implication was that it was Roo. The old Eve leaks indicated that once Eve is defeated and forgiven by Charlie, then we're going to get Roo as the big bad. Which lines up pretty well with the whole Lute being Eve plotline. I dig it.
>>154635262My hearing impairment was aided recently. That’s an issue that can treated… only if you have the right connections to get to it. For a lot of others. They’ve lost their hands, turned blind, become deaf, their legs, etc. Many of them can’t ever experience the world you and I stand as we can.
>>154635376*Forces beyond Heaven.I don't know why that part was cut out.
>>154635376I personally will just hate it because I’m quite done with the show strawmaning that stupid clown girl. Using Eve in seasons 1-4 as the “villain” Lute is so repetitively dragged out. Honestly, my biggest appeal to Lilith Eve is that it’s a plotline that is introduced and sorta resolved in a single season, and there’s no dumb cliffhangers on reusing old villains like Lute and Adam. Season 3 to me should feel like a time when everything changes so that season 4 could be its own adventure.
>>154635420Nah I reckon s3 will be Lilith as the main antagonist and s4 is Eve. Perhaps Lilith is the main overarching villain with an agenda and Eve is just a secondary antagonist with a much simpler and single minded goal, revenge
>>154635420I don't care about how you hate Lute being Eve, Bugcuck.
>>154635442S4 is the gold season. Lute's entire palette is gold. Her entire thing is revenge and was described by Viv / Skye as embodying 'feminine rage', her audition song is Salute by Little Mix. Oh yes, S4 is the Eve season, for sure. Fuck yes.
>>154635455Don't forget: Viv has gone on record twice saying that Lute's arc is a long build up and she's like a ticking time bomb, needs to simmer. Jessica Vosk said that she's in season five. Lute Eve is in it for the long haul babes.
>>154635455>>154635466Yep. And in a q and a session, it was said that Eve and Adam are already set up. Meaning it's not going to be a new character. We've already seen her. We just don't "know" who she is - (it's Lute)
>>154635363I would say that the Lute Eve twist is just disappointing in that Viv actually had no cool ideas for Lute at all, when Abel’s twist is being a son of Lucifer. It’s like Adam is the first man presenting himself as devil like. Abel is a devil presenting himself as human to feel belonged. And then Lute turns out to be Eve and doesn’t really add to this cool theming at all.Bug Lute makes me excited because it brings into Adam being the source of her humanity, like it does with Abel, and Adam taking in a more inhuman appearance to connect with her. And Abel being able to connect with her by their similar circumstances that they bring out the worst in each other when Adam isn’t there for them.
>>154635495Silence, Bugcuck.
>>154635289Oh it totally is Guitarspear
>>154635442>>154635455I actually think S3 is a Lilith and Lute antagonist season, since Val is the best Vee for them to represent love itself. And S4 will have Vel work with other characters, like Roo, to try to tear down the “gold” being made from the aftermath of season 3.
>>154635528Season five is red though. Unless you're thinking Alastor is the ultimate big bad of the series and it goes back to him? I assumed Season five would be Roo
>>154635495Nice fanfic Bugcuck. Too bad it's completely unrelated to the show. Maybe make some weird au and stop bothering us with your NTR fetish.
>>154635550Unironically, I feel his fanfiction would get good reception. Sad he wastes his time trying to convince himself and everyone else it's canon instead of using that energy to actually make a story about it.
>>154635541Hazbin had plans to be 6 seasons. Now it’s 5 seasons.> Unless you're thinking Alastor is the ultimate big bad of the series and it goes back to him? I assumed Season five would be RooAlastor is supposed to be Roo’s son. And that radioapple guy pointed out that Alastor was presented as the circus tent with a snake alluding to Lucifer dwelling in it. He’s definitely going to be a villain. He even was given a roach crown.
>>154635560I have seen a few people make this claim before, but I don't ever recall Viv saying this. I'm pretty sure she's always wanted five seasons. Do you have a source on where she said six seasons?
>>154635560>Alastor is supposed to be Roo’s son.Yes, I recall something like this being said in Zoophobia. But idk if that's series-canon.>He’s definitely going to be a villain.I think that's a given.
>>154635558My stuff requires an artist to execute it since it’s actually meant to be really short in format. And honestly I get a lot more ideas from engaging with people because they force me to look back and fix crap. And actually be willing to take on challenges like, “explain what a lute is”.I would’ve never even thought of Bug Lute ever without engagement. I would just be a coward overlooking the character despite having so many ideas about Adam and Abel regarding their unique circumstances.
>>154635569It’s actually a very recent statement. I’m surprised by it since I thought it was a five seasons show.
>>154635599>explain what a lute isNobody ever asked this of you. Nobody would ever even word this question like this. Lute is a person. She's Eve.>I would just be a coward overlooking the characterPlease do so. Overlook the character. Because you are not good at reading them.
>>154635610Preach it
>>154635604Do you have a source on where she said six seasons?
It's so funny watching someone who's used to Twitter get a taste of 4chan and go gloves off fandom fighting. Haha yess. Aren't you tired of being nice. Don't you just want to go ape shitt.
>>154635610This is a setting with a mysterious Exorcist race that is unlike anything else in the show that has ideas about unique races/features. And this race happens to be female only.If it was Eve and clone eves. It wouldn’t be shocking. It would just be uncreative.
>>154635623Some people go to twitter for that.
>>154635628>It wouldn’t be shocking.The point of them being clones isn't to shock you.>It would just be uncreative.In your opinion. Not in mine. What now.
>>154635636You’re telling me that a failed Eve replacement that turns more insect like and acts as a queen for a race of female warriors isn’t a lot more shocking than a lame secret identity reveal and an absolute retard decision on Sera’s part to make clones out of Eve?
>>154635599But aren't you a drawfag?
>>154635617Since nobody does homework in this godforsaken place. I got it. No, that's not exactly what she said: “Oh, man. I mean, the real answer is as many as they’ll give me, forever — forever and ever because there could always be more. But I think based on other shows that I love that I feel had a really good run, Bojack [Horseman’s] my favorite series ever and it got to six, so I’m just gonna go with that as, ‘My favorite show went to six, so six would be cool!’ But I feel like whatever is possible to tell the story in, which I roughly know. Who knows? I think anything’s possible right now.” https://collider.com/hazbin-hotel-how-many-seasons-vivienne-medrano/It's just people badly playing telephone again.
>>154635642Perfectness mentality and never been trained properly to even color or apply them. That would be next month.
>>154635646I personally never bother with news and interviews because there is hours and hours of crap everywhere.It’s a main reason why I would rather stick by the show and its materials than anywhere else.
>>154635628>a mysterious Exorcist race Literally just a type of angels made for a specific role. We seen this already in heaven with Cherubs, Virtues and Seraphim each a have a general look for their type.
>>154635641>A failed Eve replacement that turns more insect like and acts as a queen for a race of female warriors isn’t a lot more shockingIt's not so much as shocking or logical as it is just out of left field and disconnected from the show altogether. Go write fanfiction.>than a lame secret identity reveal and an absolute retard decision on Sera’s part to make clones out of Eve?Jessica Vosk has literally been hinting at an identity reveal with Lute since before the show started airing. So yes, this would very interesting, aligned with the show and creative. The only reason the surprise is "ruined" is because she accidentally spoiled it. Also the clone thing is just speculation. That's just my theory, but I'm not betting on it. All I know is that Lute is Eve.
It's episode 112131287331432 of twitter tourist newfags fueling engagement with he who is without ears and making him the main antagonist of threads instead of treating him like background noise, ffs we had something with the bugcuck meme, he was backing away so much I thought I banished him at one point but you niggers had to fuck it all up
>>154635642Is he a good drawfag though? Where can one see his arts.
>>154635658Bitch he never fucking left, the fuck are you talking about. He's a cancer that doesn't leave.
>>154635654Preach.
>>154635660Well considering he uses his fingers its actually well done, dunno if I have it on me but I exposed the abelschizo persona as being him in disguise cause he fucked up and uploaded one of his drawings on the abelschizo twitter account (now deleted)
>>154635653>ignores creator and canon commentary.kay. nobody cares what you say if you don't do the work. No wonder you're ignorant half of the time of what's going on in the show.. You don't do your research.
>>154635641>You’re telling me that a failed Eve replacement that turns more insect like and acts as a queen for a race of female warriors isn’t a lot more shocking It's out of left field with no buildup and sucks dick (much like you). There's no real proof for your bug shit. It's just some dumb idea you came up with after people started joking about Adam having sex with the mantis virtue.>secret identity reveal and an absolute retard decision on Sera’s part to make clones out of Eve?Makes a lot more sense and would be in character for Sera. Again go watch the show before coming here to larp. Lute=Eve is more plausible and Sera's whole thing is making rash decisions which come back to bite her.
>>154635650So what, my artist partner for a cape comic universe I'm working on was self taught, I managed to brute force his development to the point he can do line art, colour and character design and he never even touched a drawing tablet in his life.
>>154635664He had a significantly diminished presence, read my post again
>>154635678You have a statement that most of the show’s material is in the interviews. I remembered that clearly. And honestly, you’re approaching the whole situation wrongly.There are boundaries to remember and Lilith Eve is one I spotted and realized my defeat in. So was serpent seed. It’s not from ignorance, but full awareness.
I'm going to repeat what I said in the previous thread. Lute / Eve shit doesn't even need a dedicated schizo.>Jessica Vosk: "I think I’m surprised at what’s to come, & I think everybody will have a lovely mouth wide open gasp.">Jessica Vosk: "she is going to surprise you in a really big way. She is not who you think she is," https://www.creepykingdom.com/post/hazbin-hotel-jessica-daphne>Jessica Vosk: *interacts with the Lute/Eve theory*Boom. Done. That's it. That's all you need. It's spoiled. Everything else is overkill.
>>154635692Silence, Bugcuck.
>>154635695>Jessica Vosk: *interacts with the Lute/Eve theory*Forgot to put:>DELETES IT.NDA violation. Mic drop. Done. Now it's just a waiting game.
>>154635695>>154635698I like how she's been trying to hide it too. They're not good at keeping this shit under wraps lmao
Wow. That's uh. kind of on the nose innit. yeesh. Didn't Angel's voice actor pull this shit too? I remember he literally spoiled what was going to happen to Angel in the season two finale lmao.
>>154635684Your friend has gifts he can grasp very well and shiftly. I don’t.How I’m supposed to develop is different from him.
>>154635714Yeahh, on twitter. At least that's where the video was posted. It was a post season two interview thing they did before the finale was aired on prime. Amir and Kimiko didn't say shit to stop it . It was hilarious.
>>154635702I don’t think so. Lilith Eve stuff was here much earlier.The themes of Lute and Eve are going to be mimicry. Which does creep me out a lot.
>>154635766Silence, Bugcuck.
>>154635766No that's just your headcanon derived from dubious leaks. Can't wait for S3 to drop and the real humiliation ritual will begin for you. I would make a bet with you but I'm pretty sure you don't have any money so you'd probably decline.
>>154635771Shouldn’t you expect something creepier with how Lute and Lilith are presented? Lute and exorcists are very doll like and have the coding with the button eye theming and identical bodies.
>>154635814>Shouldn’t you expect something creepier with how Lute and Lilith are presented?Lilith, the woman who left: Eve, the woman who stayed. Both primordial humans and sinners. That's pretty creepy on it's own. I'm not sure why you act as if Eve/Lute can't be a demon. Lute's got fangs and slit eyes. She's a demonic angel: Heaven's repurposed weapon. Lilith is the Queen of Demons and is already pretty creepy on their own.>Lute and exorcists are very doll like and have the coding with the button eye theming and identical bodies.Sure. Lute being Eve adds even more to that.
>>154635720The only way to improve in art or writing is to keep practising and doing it
>>154635814Silence, Bugcuck.
>>154635834No. The only way forward is the best method
>>154635708in retrospect the 'lilith = eve/rosie = lilith' leaks were the best possible outcome because people are so attached to them and so sure they're coming that the lute=eve theory is treated a crazy fringe idea by the fanbase at large. i'd never even considered it before coming here. >>154636167a guitarprincess duet would've sounded so fucking nice i'm so sad they never got a song together.
Why watch a show with such bad writing?
>>154636184>In retrospect the 'lilith = eve/rosie = lilith' leaks were the best possible outcome because people are so attached to them and so sure they're coming that the lute=eveI know I'm sounding super conspiracy brained but I genuinely wonder if the "leaks" were purposely fabricated with said purpose. Even if Eve=Lute stuff accidentally got out people would ignore it and still go for the classic "leaks" so the chances the reveal would be spoiled are reduced.
>>154636184>in retrospect the 'lilith = eve/rosie = lilith' leaks were the best possible outcome because people are so attached to them and so sure they're coming that the lute=eve theory is treated a crazy fringe idea by the fanbase at large. i'd never even considered it before coming here.The Rosie/Lilith/Eve interpretation has became so deeply embedded in the fandom that, for a lot of people, it's effectively canon. It's reached the point where even Jessica Vosk dropping a pretty significant spoiler isn't enough to make people pause because the narrative has already been decided: Rosie is Lilith (in disguise), and the Lilith we've seen is Eve (in disguise). There's nothing in the show that actually suggests wife-swap. On top of that: Viv has debunked identity-switch theories and she's confirmed that it was Lilith who called Charlie + the show itself confirms that Lilith was always this way. Lute/Eve is going to be one of those twists people will say is obvious when they rewatch the show.
>>154636258It's annoying how Roo = Eve and Adam never ate the apple are treated as canon by the fandom despite having no basis in the show
>>154636258It's basically Pink Diamond is Rose Quartz. Pretty obvious in retrospect or if you were paying attention to the signs. Also some people predicted rose quartz was pink diamond the moment pink was mentioned except they didn't believe him only to come back after a couple of years to say he was right.
>>154636265>Adam never ate the apple are treated as canon by the fandom despite having no basis in the showThat one is because only Eve is shown getting the Apple. Nowhere in sight is Adam nor any mention of him eating it alongside Eve
>>154636282Probably because the big Ls were the protagonists so they didn't show Adam and Eve getting kicked out of the garden
>>154636236I don't think so. They were simply relaying the information they had at the time. By their own admission, they didn't have the full picture, nor had they been kept up to date after leaving. At the end of the day, we're dealing with secondhand, incomplete information from a former employee who openly acknowledged that several years had passed since they'd been involved with production. As far as I'm aware, these weren't from official production work either, so they shouldn't even be treated as the definitive version of the story, especially given how much can change during development.On top of that, it's interesting how the fandom gradually transformed the Chai leaks into "Roo possesses Eve like a parasite," when the leaks themselves don't actually say that. So not only are we dealing with half-assed incomplete, potentially-wrong information from the get-go, we're also dealing with a bad game of telephone. Not ONLY that but anyone else find it hella weird that there have been NO OTHER leaks (not from the pilot) that mention Lute, Lucifer, Husk, Angel, etc? Usually major leaks like these include overall encompassing information: not just one specific plot twist. Another hint that this was Viv yapping her mouth on what she was considering doing with this story.
>>154636281I remember that: I'm old enough to remember when people were theorizing that shit since season one, and the fandom would laugh at them. And people FOUGHT tooth and nail that Rose was NOT Pink Diamond lmao
>>154636258Not to get into semantics: I wouldn't call it a twist, it's a reveal. Rose/Pink is a twist because they established them as two different characters (one an antagonist at that) whereas Eve has no presence in the show, she's not framed as missing or as a mystery, like, nobody is asking about her in-universe. The strongest candidate is Lute. Jessica let it slip. So.. reveal, not a twist.
>>154636337Exactly. Not only that but Lute is teased to have a 'mysterious' backstory within the show's narrative: "I have lost so much, I have endured." You don't need Jessica's or Viv's comments either, but they just compound what's already there. Jessica has said Lute has A LOT of trauma, that she's not who we think she is, that she has a 'sympathetic reason to hate sinners,' and a whole bunch of other shit you can tell she's dying to say. Viv has also said she's a ticking time bomb, needs to simmer, and has been 'set up a lot' (this was actually from a deleted bsky post - another weird hint because afaik Viv doesn't delete posts like that). Rosie also has a mysterious origin, but unlike Lute, nothing has been said about her -identity-, just her powers.
>>154636337we also have a meta element in that both roo and lilith have had their VAs hyped up by viv long before either speak, but no such hype has been done for eve's VA, suggesting she's already here. now that doesn't ELIMINATE rosie=eve or (carmilla=eve which i've seen from her devotion to her daughters as well as the two wedding bands) but it adds credence to the idea that eve's identity is a reveal.
>>154636354It was actually confirmed in a patreon q & a thing that they are not bringing in new bible characters and they just want to explore who they already have. Guess who they mentioned as an example? Adam and Eve. So she's already there.
>>154636354Don't forget the other meta elements:Viv mentioning she wants to explore the Adam and Eve story through a 'female critical lens' - I'm paraphrasing. Guess what goes on with Lute? Her audition song is Salute by Little Mix and Skye described her as the embodiment of feminine rage, which is a very specific term regarding the historical oppression of women. Then add Jessica's deleted Lute/Eve tweet. Like.Come on now.
>>154636383Isn't Salute all about girl power, insecurity, and female empowerment. I recall Jessica saying Lute would call herself a loser in an emotionally vulnerable moment. lol. I would assume, of all the characters, the female empowering pop song would go to Lilith, not Lute of all fucking people. damn you really have to look into all this huh? ppl are def going to say this was a retcon or some shit.
>>154636401Salute by Little Mix????? THAT'S Lute's audition song????Oh wow, this shit ain't subtle lmao
>>154636408That's the most out-of-pocket thing I've heard. That does not fit her lol .. Oh yeah, she's definitely Eve. On the contrary, I would actually say it is pretty subtle, not that Jessica giving away the spoiler really made a difference. People's heads are stuck in the dirt with the whole Rosie Eve Lilith twin whatever the fuck leaks they heard. Shit's funny.
Why do the supposed Lute flags/yumes/stans/glazers NEVER talk about this shit?? Looty's Twitter and these threads Is where I've actually learned that Lute has a lot more information to her. What the fuck?
>>154636436bc they're larpers. nobody talked about Jessica's second Streamily signing either. that's where she confirmed lute makes it to season 5, and that she has a lot of trauma.
>>154636436because they hate adam and the idea that eve/lute might genuinely have loved him without coercion or force (and more importantly that adam genuinely loved eve/lute in return) is anathema to them. so yeah >>154636450radfem larpers pretending that making lute vaggi's eternally apologetic bitch is good writing.
>>154633811>>154633831Again: writers suck at math. Even good writers like Azimov fall into that trap, where what would sound impressive to certain people is actually an order of magnitude or two or three lower than what it would realistically be given what is described. Don't get me wrong, I wince whenever a character in Hellaverse mentions numbers (numbers killed, years ago, percentages, etc), but I'm not going to hold an urban fantasy musical set in hell to the same standards that even "serious" sci-fi can't even reach.
>>154636468yeah the bitching about numbers is the most tedious chunk of fandom discourse, it's on par with 'uhh why isn't this exactly like my bible?' tier shit like this isn't a musical fanfiction of a fanfiction (paradise lost) of the bible and it's just not that serious.
>>154636467>lute vaggi's eternally apologetic bitch is good writing.God this shit is vomit inducing
>>154636486The Bible-canon truthers (specifically for this show I mean) is comedy gold when you rightfully point out that all their points and reasoning is out the window because Lilith exists. Lilith isn't in the fucking Bible. Just by virtue of the fact that she is in the show already means it's not going to be biblically accurate. It was never supposed to be biblically accurate.
>>154636493i like the tacit admission these people know that they're attracted to lute as she currently is but because they think that's a moral judgement on themselves they have to 'fix' her first by bludgeoning her into morally correct submission to their self-insert woman, which is feminist somehow.
>>154633831There is a reason why one of the funniest headcanons out there is Adam is doing all the work with lasers and beams. Exterminations 99% Adam blasting, 1% Exorcists feeling good about themselves by killed bad guys.Of course that still doesn't explain how the fuck 7 years work with Exterminations but eh.>>154636504Main problem is, show is just picking pieces left and right with their shit. Like, you think Lilith from the jewish fables means they would include more stuff from Hebrew and Judaism. But no, show is mostly modern feel good versions of Heaven and Hell, Virtues and Sins with a bunch of made-up stuff and mixes.
>>154636547>Of course that still doesn't explain how the fuck 7 years work with Exterminations but eh.Adam was blasting entire chunks of the Pride Ring off-screen with billions of Sinners getting erased and no one mentioned it. One year he exterminated the domain of Genghis Khan with his billion subjects, next year Emperor Nero lost his life alongside his nearly 2000 year old Tenebrosus Roman Empire.How? Why? Don't ask me. There is a reason why before Season 2, everyone was assuming Exterminations were going on for thousands of years.
>>154636436>>154636450>>154636467Kinda sad how many Lute "fans" are larpers that ignore the show and pretend their shitty fanfic where they fix Lute through the power of "lesbians" is somehow true. Lute=Eve will mindbreak them.
>>154630804They should have sex with eachother.
>>154636585>next year Emperor Nero lost his life alongside his nearly 2000 year old Tenebrosus Roman Empire....my imagination couldn't help but make this.>Just after a week Hazbin Hotel defeated the Exorcists and Adam was killed, a figure covered by a dark purple robe arrives. The crowd of sinners, a mix of would-be Angel killers and those who want to be redeemed, makes way as it walks towards the reception.>Charlie, busy filling out the forms for a bunch of Sinners, only notices the figure when he speaks in a silky voice "I have to thank you, Princess."> Startled, Charlie looks up. Only the gleaming eyes of his can be seen. Nerveously chuckling, "Thank you but I did what I had. Are you here to join the hotel? I have to mention beforehand we do NOT go out to hunt Angels nor eat them.">"No, I am here simply to thank you. After all, if it wasn't for you..." the figure starts to grow bigger, the robe slowly turning into purple gold armor tight around the figure as it reveals a dragonic figure that can be mistaken for Satan but with 9 horns. "I would have to keep myself hidden, fearful of that Executioner">"EMPEROR NERO IS BACK BITCHES!*que the song, perhaps inspired by https://youtu.be/qWwAC9dOTCE?t=137
>>154636841>textwall spamdo newfags really?
>>154630804Never 4get
>>154637013>>154637046That is stupid even before Season 2 you know. Especially for someone whose most prominent trait, literally to the point of getting made a rare as fuck card, is lounging around in a Beach in Heaven.
>>154637013>>154637046see this comic is a prime example of what i mean whenever i see haters accidentally glazing a character harder than the lovers. this artist thinks adam is not only capable of getting the drop on lilith, but also precisely targeting her uterus from the outside, blind and at speed, in such a way that she's rendered infertile (or close to it) without taking fatal damage, that he'd come up with this plan to begin with AND execute it flawlessly.
>>154637183wow i type sentence good today.
>>154637013>>154637046Honestly? A good comic.
>>154637303Eh it's kinda goes so hard for the edge it comes back around to goofy.
>>154630874Number 3?
>>154637316Number 4
>>154636841Make Nero FGO Arcade Nero you got yourself a reader.
>>154634416Viv already has two self-inserts with Keenie and Deerie.
>>154637013>No take-backsies
>>154636547>show is just picking pieces left and right with their shitYes, that's how these things work. It's a mishmash not a faithful adaptation. What part are you not understanding.>you think Lilith from the jewish fables means they would include more stuff from Hebrew and Judaism.No, not necessarily.
>>154636585>There is a reason why before Season 2, everyone was assuming Exterminations were going on for thousands of years.They assumed that because Lilith's whole thing is resistance. Meaning, naturally, she was resisting something. What else if not the exterminations? Clearly, everyone was wrong.
>>154638617I mean if want you can add the stuff you like. There's some neat material there if you wanna add some more fallen angels and demons.
>>154638640Yeah, if you like. Viv doesn't care to. It's not really an issue dude.
>>154636408No, it's definitely not subtle..
>>154638652True.
>>154637183This comic makes him look kind of like a badass, even though it's super out of character lol
>>154638666Well it's subtle for the generic Hazbin fan who's kinda of a dumbass. We're just nutjobs who figured it out.
>>154637124
>>154636354I don't really count Carmilla or Rosie for that matter. There has been zero indication of an identity reveal with Carmilla. She has just as much of a chance as Niffty regarding being Eve. With Rosie, there's definitely a reveal coming but again there has been no indication of an identity reveal. The reason Lute is the top, strongest candidate, is... Well fuck everything else, Jessica already spoiled it. Just the fact that she interacted with the theory alone is enough. The most ridiculous justification I've heard is that she's purposefully teasing people, except she doesn't really do that sort of thing, and the fact that she deleted it, even if the initial point was to joke about it, already makes it suspicious. Because, let's assume that she really was joking... She wouldn't be deleting it. She did though. Not only that, but... Do you know how hard it was at the time to find anything relating to this theory? So.... she went out of her way to reblog arguably the one post out of... what, two total(?) of a very obscure theory at the time, and went through the trouble of not only re-quoting it, but responding to it. Huh? And then on top of that, she deletes it a few days later? Then she says weird shit like how her character is not who we think she is, that she's going to leave us with a gasp, that she plays a significant part relating to the Heaven and Hell situation...Right okay. But Carmilla has an equal chance of being Eve. Sure
>>154638696You know what, fair enough.
>>154638749Someone did actually make a theory on Niffty being Eve on Tumblr a while back, it's pretty good haha. But no, yeah.. Lute Is the one who's close to Adam in several ways, but more importantly, in a narrative context. They share a music genre, she's the one that's grieving him, he's her entire raison d'etre, she's now sharing narrative space with "his" son, Viv clearly likes them in a family-esque setting... Like really, Jessica's deleted tweet is just icing on the cake. It's pretty obvious and straightforward that she's Eve. And given that the show follows an eight-episode format, where half of that episode is just musical numbers, that's literally the easiest option.
>>154638722The more and more Lilith context is given out, the more this seems pretty plausible. Fingers crossed. What are you guys think Roo will be like? I used to think that maybe she would be like Eris from Legend of Sinbad, but I'm now convinced that Lilith is going to be the one like that instead...
>>154638831I think she's gonna be creepy
>>154638831>>154638853She should be thicker
>>154638935I'm talking about Roo
>>154638831I feel like Good/Ray will be like White Diamond. Roo might be the same. I can totally picture Viv going for Roo being misunderstood and not wanting to be known as Evil incarnate anymore.
>>154638617She also doesn't need to make the main character intelligent but it doesn't mean we like Charlie being retarded in Season 2So please, stop dickriding Vivziepop for a second.
>>154639033>She also doesn't need to make the main character intelligent but it doesn't mean we like Charlie being retarded in Season 2They don't give two shits about Viv, but it's funny how you're on her case for doing fuck all with her characters. Stop being a little bitch about it and write your own shit.
>>154639033What the hell does one thing have to do with the other. Just because she's not writing religious stories in the way you think they should be written doesn't make them wrong. I really don't give a fuck about Viv, but it's always funny to see people tie themselves into knots to put her on blast for what she does with her stupid ass characters. No dude, she's not going to suck your dick. Keep dreaming. Go write fanfiction or something.
>>154638749The biggest irony about all this is that Viv has teased and identity reveal with Lute and engaged with the theory, but people still find any justification to brush it off but Amir, who did the exact same thing with Rosie, hinting at a reveal, is taken as gospel... lmao People are not going to be happy with Lute being Eve. Can't wait to see the fandom blow up.
>>154639276Sorry, meant to say Jessica, not Viv, teased at an identity reveal. Although, I think it was already mentioned here: Viv did actually make a thread about Lute (she was responding to some butthurt twat who is upset about her not getting paid off after Gravity) that they set her up big. She deleted that thread. When does Viv ever delete shit about characters. She didn't say anything that we presumably didn't already know. In an interview, she said that she feels it's important to set her up, to make it a point and let it be known that Lute has all these problems, nobody's helping her with these problems, how she views the world in black and white, yada yadaLike yeah, it's kind of obvious she's Eve. She's the real girl boss of the show.
>>154636354Slightly unrelated but just a general comment on this that further buries the prospect of a Rosie Lilith Eve twin (not that it needs it because they've already confirmed that it's not happening): If they really were trying to keep identities under wrap, they wouldn't even mention what character's voice actors they managed to get. The fact that they announced that Lilith and Roo cements that Lilith is, in fact, Lilith.
>>154639363Viv is actually a really bad liar too. You can tell when she's excited about a certain spoiler. And every time she talks about Lilith, she just talks. Normally. She really is just Lilith. People are not willing to accept that. Lilith is a bad, if not slightly worse, apparent than Lucifer. I'm not surprised, but with Viv's mommy's issues and all that
>>154639369***** Lilith is a bad, if not slightly worse, parent than Lucifer. I'm not surprised, what with Viv's mommy's issues and all thatCan't write sentences today
How badly will the fandom lose their shit after the Lute is Eve reveal?
>>154638935A bit too thick on that pic for my tastes but preach brother.>>154639033Those retards in fandom would find way to justify anything. Don't bother.>>154639108How does someone writing his or her own shit will do anything about the stupid shit in Hazbin Hotel. >>154639121I mean, when you use characters, places, symbols and narrative tropes from a material, you have certain expectations. Whatever that is Bible, Naruto or Lord of the Rings.People are free to critize Hazbin Hotel or Helluva Boss based on materials they are using just like they are free to critize say, Salvation War or Supernatural.
>>154639443Picture June 5th, then times that by a hundred
The more I think about it the more I think if Viv wanted to write a story about Biblical Adam moving on from Eve and finding love in someone totally new and not made for him she probably wouldn't be able to resist making that new character a man (Adam and Steve and all that). Ergo Lute is probably just Eve
>>154639469I mean the concept that Eve actually loves Adam and agrees with Exterminations will make a lot of people butt hurt. Lute Larper "fans" will probably pick another character to fixate and goon on. GuitarSpear and Flowertunes will have a collective moment of confusion. Lucifer/Lilith defenders will shit their pants. Lute X Abel shippers will jump ship and probably delete most content. Maybe people will give Vaggie more credit because she got her ass beaten like a misbehaving child by the mother of humanity and not some random exorcist.
>>154639499>if Viv wanted to write a story about Biblical Adam moving on from Eve and finding love in someone totally new and not made for himWe know deep in our hearts, the true and best ship of Hazbin Hotel will always be Adam X Charlie if that were the case.It doesn't matter if you do Sinner Adam or not, the sheer possibilities and chemistry between them are enormous.
>>154639443Let's be real the majority of the fandom won't give a fuck about Lute being Eve because it has no impact on whether Alastor is banging Lucifer or Vox.
>>154639559Just gonna have to disagree there sorry
>>154639561It obviously won't matter to the fujos but the rest will probably have interesting reactions.
>>154639499Not to be endorse yaoi slop, But if that was the case, probably the best romantic candidate in that case would be Lucifer himself. Which is funny because Viv likes a lot of adamspple fanarts on Blue sky.Like the other person said, her being Eve is just the most straightforward choice. Also, her voice actor engaging with that theory, which was extremely obscure at the time, is kind of a dead giveaway. It makes sense when you find out that this is her first animated role. She probably just got super hyped.
>>154639524This is what the angels did to Eve right after they pulled her out of Adam's chest.
>>154639675Pretty sure she was naked.
>>154639561I'll be completely honest, I keep forgetting that Lute isn't popular like that. Unfortunately most of her supposed fanbase outside like five people are just larpers who want toxic Yuri slop, and they are the loudest of the bunch. So they're probably going to twist their panties in a knot
>>154639690They gave her a blankie to keep her warm, not to cover her nudity.
I know this happens in every fandom but, I really like how people have made their minds on how Eve acted or what she was like as a person when, looking strictly at the show as is, there is zero indication of anything about her. She's not even a mystery within the universe of the show. Nobody's asking about her, she's only mentioned significantly that one time.
>>154639714They already decided she's going to be the Eve they grew up with in Sunday school even though Adam decidedly isn't.
>>154639731Adam is a caricature and barely resembles the biblical figure in terms of apparent personality. But Eve, for some reason, is supposed to be still super sweet, caring, friendly, even after all this time. Look at how much of a bitter cunt Adam turned out. Why would Eve not turn out the same, if not more bitter actually. Lute fits the bill. She literally says to Sera, "I was right about them. Adam was right about them." Likeeeeee
>>154639714Yeah. I agree with that. The only thing that is canonically revealed about Eve is her appearance.
I looooove the idea of Eve being scrappy and strange and covered in blood. I've never seen an Eve like that before. Adam is all about his cock anyway so why can't Eve be all about that gross pussy stuff like menstruation and pms.
>>154639780Nope. Not even that. We only have her silhouette.
>>154639714>>154639731>>154639757>>154639788even if lute isn't eve, adam has an obvious affinity towards women like lute - forthright, direct, unafraid to correct him when he's being stupid, the spine to stand up in front of a court and say 'why are we entertaining this bullshit?', bloodthirsty... it stands to reason that eve would be similar.
>>154639807Lute is Eve. Jessica already spoiled it.
>>154639799Her silhouette is extremely defining. That’s about one of the few positive aspects of this show’s character design.
>>154639788eve's first period comes and she chases adam around trying to put it on his face as warpaint. >'GET YOUR ASS OVER HERE'>'NONONONONO'
Sam half literally said that Lute is a villain who is bloodthirsty in a way that we haven't seen at this point yet. That Adam, though he is scary in his own, right, is ultimately boorish and ignorant. Lute is the person we need to be afraid of. Jessica also called her a mastermind, and she tries to manipulate people. Not that she's good or anything, but yes, that's in place. That's the kind of person she is.Lmao it's Eve
>>154639811i'm fully aware, i'm just adding another reason to the pile that lute really is eve, because adam likes women like lute and presumably liked eve for the same reasons, therefore...
>>154639820No Bugcuck, Lilith is not Eve. The figure in the flashback is Lilith. The figure on the card is Lilith. Eve does not look identical to Lilith. And no Eve does not have curly hair. Yes, women change their clothes and their accessories.
>>154639836Jumping in on here to say.... In this universe, Eve is the second woman/wife. Lute Is Adam's second in command... Lmao
>>154639825Peak
>>154639807>Lilith for thousands of years essentially does nothing but sit there and look pretty>Suddenly when Lilith has moments of looking like Eve, there is actual progress and Heaven begins to fear sinners as a serious threat.
>>154639838And to the people who think similar to Bugcuck because that one Helluva Boss employee uploaded their Eve design, who just so happens to look exactly like Lilith, the artist has publicly commented that Eve and Lilith being identical is strictly their own headcanon, not canon. Not only that, they laugh at anyone who does think their design is canon.
>>154639865Silence, Bugcuck.
>>154639877Literally
>>154639877Anon. That person legitimately doesn’t handle anything related to Hazbin Hotel.
>>154639896LMAO this is what the fandom actually thinks.
>>154639788We need a scene post reveal where Lute/Eve get angry and tells Abel that if he doesn't man up she's gonna shove him up her hole and birth him again in the hope he comes out as less of a failure.
>>154639865this isn't what happened in the show though, lilith basically rules over hell because lucifer's a reclusive sadboy who despises sinners and doesn't want to expose that he can't harm them. something happened seven years ago that caused lilith to try and organise hell to rise against heaven, which pissed adam/heaven off sufficiently that the exterminations started.
>>154639902Silence, Bugcuck.
>>154639915The fandom is kinda retarded ( very much like Bugcuck).
>>154639838>Canon good art design. No! It threatens my theory!Maybe it’s not a good theory.
>>154639957Silence, Bugcuck.
Somebody should make a new thread
>>154639896>>154639915>>154639951You’re right. Lucifer wouldn’t even notice anything because that idiot falls for anything resembling Charlie and Lilith like a bug to a bug zapper.
>>154639957>Artist literally says it's not canonBugcuck: canon???!1?1?1!?4
>>154639968Nope! Lute is Eve. Jessica accidentally spoiled it on Twitter. Hope this helps.
>>154639972I’m talking about the eve design from episode 1 season 1. That thing is canon. What rando artist anre you talking about?
>>154639989A helluva Boss employee who drew Eve like a Lilith twin. Check the twitter screenshot above and look through their profile.
>>154639989There is no Eve design. Just her silhouette. That's not a design.
>>154639968How does one become this raped?
>>154639896kamnglsainbwg What a jokeI really hope this was made before Season 2
>>154639996Okay. Don’t care. They’re in the dark as we are.
>>154640091Okay so anyway, Lute is Eve. Jessica already spoiled it. Hope this helps!
>>154640091Lmao. If her design happened to look identical or really close to the actual spoiler wherein Eve looks like Lilith with different bangs, she would not be allowed to post that. Even if she coincidentally managed to guess it herself. Don't be stupid. She's not going to be a Lilith twin. Not only that but she works for the studio so she has a lot more access than you and I do.
>>154640085Hazbin fan content always makes the characters a lot smarter and edgier than they really are.
Open the door, anon.
>>154640142
>>154640085A lot of these were made before season 2 before it was confirmed that Lilith has always been a shitty mom. Not only that, nothing in the actual show suggests a switch anywhere. The people who say it does are desperate to justify all of Lilith's wrongdoings. On top of that, Viv already debunked switch theories before season 1 ever aired. It's on an A24 interview you can get for less than $10 on the app. I think Loot posted the specific question on her account. Both Sam and Viv clown switch theories.
>>154640151He has luscious breasts here.
>>154640134She’s not a member of the Hazbin staff. Attacking her for posting an accurate prediction would be retarded.
>>154640161https://x.com/Lute__CEO/status/2069670651179540839?s=20Yup
>>154640169exquisitely suckable.
>>154640177Holy shit Bugcuck. How can you be this bad at deflection. It's borderline hilarious.
>>154640177Okay, so anyway, Lite is Eve. Jessica accidentally spoiled it on Twitter. Hope this helps!
>>154640177That's not how that works. She would immediately be told to take that down or private it.
>>154640178Holy shit, they're trying so hard not to laugh rofl
>>154640178No Jesus :(
>>154640200Okay. What in helluva boss has anything to do with Lilith, Charlie, Lucifer, etc? It’s all about gay owls, imps, sins, and ms white and mr black.
>>154640250Read the previous replies dipshit. It's the same studio. The two series take place in the same universe. Anyway, Lute is Eve, Jessica (the voice actress that voices the character herself and works directly with Hazbin,) accidentally spoiled Lute is Eve. Hope this helps!
>>154640267I don’t care about your crazed bitching. Does she have a credit in Hazbin Hotel or not?
>>154640285Right do anyway, Lute is Eve, Jessica (the voice actress that voices the character herself and works directly with Hazbin,) accidentally spoiled Lute is Eve. Hope this helps!
>>154640285They've literally answered you Bugcuck.
>Looty back>threads are fast againAs it should be.
Is Bugcuck just unable to control his retard tendencies?
>>154640327True
>>154640329Only when Looty is around because she can match his freak, and he doesn't like that. They're my OTP
>>154640311Being in the same studio that’s handling a great hand of projects doesn’t mean she’s working on the other ones.Right now HH season 3 isn’t even finished and released. What do you think she’s doing right now?
>>154640344Stop shipping me with random chicks.
>>154640368Stop obsessing over them dude. You get pissy because Looty backs up her schizo rants and you can't.
>>154640344Nah he's always a retard. Looty's vacation proved that. Despite her absence he couldn't stop sperging out like an autist.
>>154640379Yeah but he was a lot quieter.
>>154640371Her backings are a bunch of social media antics that doesn’t really care about what’s featured in the show.
>>154640389No Bugcuck, they're not. You say that to try and appease yourself. But literally nobody thinks that.You also say that while believing Zestial is Cain unironically. So.
>>154639714>>154639731>>154639757And THIS is the problem.The fandom is just so wedded to these old popular headcanons that they just don’t wanna let them go. Lilith!Eve has kinda faded with time and more information, while a lot of people are still really committed to Roo!Eve. They spend a lot of time working up theories for them, writing fanfics and drawing fanart, it becomes hard for them to let go. And let’s not forget the ships — good Lord, the ships.I remember talking to someone dissing Lute!Eve on X, and when I engaged to ask why, they basically said they didn’t want Lute to be Adam’s trad wife.And I’m like, huh? What indication is there that that’s what Eve is like? And it’s just latent misogyny. Eve just *has* to be the sweet, kind Mama who was the soothing yin to Adam’s yang, the reason why Abel is so soft, and the poor damsel used as a meat puppet for Roo who needs just to be rescued by show’s end.Flowertunes has created this idea in peoples’ heads, reinforced by popular media portrayals, that this is who Eve is gonna be. The idea of Eve being a ruthless Amazon queen who kept her family alive in prehistoric Earth, smashing the teeth down sabertooth tigers’ throats and the inventor of the SPEAR (get it, guitarspear?) is an anathema to them.Again, just a dollop of latent misogyny.
>>154640560>while a lot of people are still really committed to Roo!EveThis is the default for most people and the one I see people treat as settled canon most often. There are certain people who are very, very invested in this and will be very disappointed when it turns out this character never existed in the first place. Well, Roo will exist, but not as Eve.
>>154640368My brother in christ i ship you with the entire fucking thread Ctrl+f bugcuck 48 at time of typing. Likely more at time of posting. They're obsessed with youThis entire general is your tsundere harem
>>154640598I strongly believe the blonde Lilith twin Eve never existed, not in the way the fandom thinks. At best, this looks like it was a proposed idea that Viv entertained. But it never came to fruition. If the employee was able to post her version of Eve, even if it was completely from her imagination, and it was too on the nose, it would have been removed. Meaning, it's kind of a strong indicator that no, Eve doesn't look like that at all.
>>154640560>The idea of Eve being a ruthless Amazon queen who kept her family alive in prehistoric Earth, smashing the teeth down sabertooth tigers’ throats and the inventor of the SPEAR (get it, guitarspear?)Sounds fucking awesome. Also the spear thing is really nice.
