https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qOZkhgCW7DA
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FXaivNm3aL0&pp=0gcJCWQCo7VqN5tD
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HdGlcLpRrqg
>>154859331
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hiLxD526sdE
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pQLJ_O7KczA Hated how Q5 screwed the original writers over
>>154859382Same. Haven't seen the show for myself yet, but Phelous' passion for the series was enough to convince me to hate Q5 as well.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_OykF6AuhxYTMNT 87 twilight seasons
Wonder Twins and Gleek do not appear at all, Mr Mxyzptlk and Bizarro only appear in 1 episode and this aired during Crisis on Infinite Earths where DC funny characters were dropping like flies.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UsG7HHcO2zU [Open]
>>154859357I think I saw this intro broadcast like ONCE. I really don't remember it even getting that many seasons
>>154859431Oh fuck I remember this, I remember being weirded out by Cyborg and Firestorm because I had no knowledge of them because I didn't really read comics. Also, Darkseid came out of nowhere, and I didn't know what to make of his obsession with Wonder Woman.
>>154859496Darkseid had to be merged because of S&P and pearlclutchers. Parademons had to called paradrones.It took the DCAU to give Darkseid his balls back
>>154859437That rap intro was actually made by CBS for US broadcast only. The actual Season 7 episodes just used the same Season 6 intro.
>>154859340I don't remember a frame of that. I must have missed the last season of the smurfs. Did they really meet dinosaurs?
>>154859431This was the cartoon that adapted Batman's origin for the first time, I think, even doing some clever-for-the-time audio workarounds to avoid having to show or mention the mugger's gun while still implying that Bruce's parents got shot.
Ta dadada ta-daaa! Puppy power!https://youtu.be/N6m0Q0Qppzw?si=pPbWMNJpnrD6ICQj
>>154859331what's the sign here?
>>154859382Didn't it become Slimer: and the Real Ghostbusters in 91?https://youtu.be/yQUFJ8Ncc8c?si=gtANb8j3oC6Z3R3i>And me! And me!
>>154859331This is why raven darkholme left the village and became a mutie.
>>154859509Meant to say nerfed. Autocorrect can be stupid
>>154859362Not one, not two, but THREE fucking Poochies in one show. The desperation to keep FOP alive and "fresh" was so funny
Last mainstream DCAU show but it went out in a blaze of glory
>>154861241>Darkseid, Brainiac, and Lex Luthor (the three biggest bads in the DCAU) are all taken out of existence for at least a while>Surviving Legion of Doom villains are given a 30-minute head start by the JL before the familiar status-quo resumes once moreNo better way to close the curtain on over 15 years of an animation legend.
>>154859398What was worse? The Red Sky Seasons or Back to the Sewer?
>>154860473>And me! And me!>Obnoxious! Obnoxious!
>>154860473The animation shift between the normal episodes and the Slimer shorts are extremely jarring, though I think there was one proper GB episode where the 'Busters confront the mad scientist obsessed with catching Slimer and he was done up in the more realistic animation.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u4ZtIEYhrGICap was running on fumes when Power Rangers and Dragon Ball Z left him in the dust
>>154859398Why does it have scenes from the live action movie spliced in?
>>154859331Definitely never saw the show this far in. Who's the older than papa smurf smurf?
>>154863529Grandpa smurf, duh.
>>154859331Papa Smurf IS THE ONLY eldest Smurf. So yes, this was the end of the series where I dropped off in interest.
>>154860473Sadly I kept watching because I think at the time it was the best thing on currently at that timeslot. I think ReBoot and SonicAM saved Saturday mornings for me.
>>154860329it's a german show, they still have dinosaurs in germany
>>154861106poof wasn't that intrusive, foop was far worse. the dog was completely written out with no explanation so clearly they got the hint, but chloe is worthless. there is zero reason why she even needs fairies because everyone loves her. tootie would need them more.
>>154859331Spoilered for profane material.It's what the network wants, why bother to complain?
>>154859331The Big Cartoonie Show, aka Tom Ruegger's last gasp to keep Kids WB from becoming completely Pokemon-dominated by rolling shorts from all his shows into one variety block.
Fairly Oddparents pulling this in fucking 2016 was wild.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evk_UYJCo54
>>154866353Ruegger is such a bitter loser nowadays
lads i cant see the problem with any of this pls explain
>>154861405The Next Mutation was worse than both combined.
>>154866460He always was.>"Whaddya mean kids would rather watch a retarded mouse squeak its name and shoot lightning bolts all day? I didn't give my son five roles in my latest cartoon for this!"
>>154866353>Tom RueggerI'd marathon all his cartoons right now, but I'm tired as fuck and need to sort my days and nights all over again.
>>154859331Episodes become a "fictional story" featuring the cast playing other characters >hey what if Mumm-Ra was telling his dog a story about Tom Sawyer but the characters were all Thundercats>what if the Smurfs were characters on Star Treketc
It makes jokes about itself rather than about anything else.
>>154866506I can't believe an episode-length parody of a 1960's musical failed to win the kids over.
>>154866581its so weird. Because a lot of Rueggers shows WERE incredibly popular at the time, but at the same time most of the jokes were weird boomer jokes that I doubt kids got.
>>154866534The only one who pulled this off well was Aku in Samurai Jack.
>>154866419Shows like The Simpsons and Pinky and the Brain were already making fun of shit like this before FOP even started airing, how on earth did they sincerely think this would go well?
>>154860329The Smurfs spent the last season with 75% of the Smurfs traveling through time and trying to get home. They never did.Smurfs like Farmer, Nanny, Slouchie and Nat stayed behind.
>>154859382Triangular glasses being "too scary" for kids... what the fuck was wrong with Q5
>>154859431Adam West reprised his role for this >>154860349And his performance in this episode is honestly one of the best Batman moments
>>154860405No where near the last season.
>>154860473No. The overall show became 1 hour and a half long.Slimer parts were a half hour while the real ghostbusters became an joir.
>>154865976Grandpa Smurf came in season 6.There were 10 seasons
>>154863501IIRC there's never been an official statement from anyone on why exactly but it can be safely assumed that they were used to emphasize how "darker" the new take was going to be. Notice how they were all from the first live action movie and none from the more goofier, lighthearted sequels.
>>154867163I wonder if they believed what they said or where they just con men?
>>154859382>Make Janine "less scary">Reintroduce characters from the movie that didn't need reintroducing (Louis, Walter Peck)>Have a bunch of kids as "Junior Ghostbusters">Make a recurring villain mastermind (Ghost Master)They definitely weren't doing anybody any favors.
>>154866983It could work as a one time deal for some variety but when a show keeps going back to the well they really ran out of stories
>>154866581Of course how could I have missed that reference.
>>154867363Animaniacs doesn't deserve to be in the same breath as Hellzapoppin
>>154867263>Last episode of Season 7 has Shredder and his gang running off like cowards now that the Technodrome is gone for good>Season 8 opens, he threatens to blow up the Channel 6 building and kill everybody trapped inside if the Turtles don't do what he says; they do so and he blows it up anyway (though Splinter already got everybody out)Even I knew this was a WTF moment.
>>154867363the Hellzapoppin movie was pretty good
>>154867402thats crazy
>>154859331Watch the 2021 cartoon, anon.100% better
>>154866993probably executive meddling. butch is also a hack.
>>154866534Muppet Babies was all about that.
>>154867305>>Have a bunch of kids as "Junior Ghostbusters"this shit ALWAYS pissed me off in cartoonsi want to self insert as the cool hero, not the bumbling junior sidekicks that fuck everything up
>>154859362I liked Chloe more than Timmy.
>>154867402"I never bluff" still goes hardShame the rest never lived up to that and it went on for 2 more seasons
>>154859331>end credits start playing
>>154867163You know it was probably just like ONE retarded kid too.
>>154867305Supposedly Bill Murray somehow sabotaged the TV show because he didn't want to do film sequels and didn't like how the show was keeping the IP alive in pop-culture.If true, it means these horrible ideas were actually deliberately bad.
>>154871118Murray's involvement with the cartoon begins and ends with getting Lorenzo Music fired because he hated that Venkman sounded like Garfield
>>154871427And apparently, Murray didn't actually mean for Music to get fired.
>>154861405>’87 turtles jump the shark by becoming edgier and more serious>’03 turtles jump the shark by becoming super juvenile and marketable>neither series are remembered for their tone / art style shiftsFunny how that worked out
>>154867231Are you sure? I could had thought otherwise. It has been decades, but even the little Smurfs looked like one of those *Scrappy Doo* situations.
>>154867263I was more disappointed than anything. I thought it was like a mature new direction. It just made them look meaner, gave them mutate MUTATE powers and added another boring human character.
>>154872037Even people who liked the Red Sky seasons agree that they felt too soft and restrained compared to the cartoons they were competing against like BTAS and Gargoyles.
>>154866534Modern SpongeBob does this a lot>What if Moby Dick but SpongeBob>What if Pinocchio but SpongeBob>What if Snow White but SpongeBob..and so on
>>154870139Same with Zack in TMNT 87
>>154866534>>154874374the last episode of The Adventure of Sonic the Hedgehog was a fairytale retelling
>>154867179https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f-InqBuki4Looked this up, a couple of things stick out to me, 1, Adam West in hindsight seems to have gone to the same acting school as William Shatner (which isn't a bad thing per say but it's noticable). 2, Despite being made in 1985 the animation feels very late-70's, it's funny to think that only 7 years separates this from BTAS.
>>154863271Honestly, lame rap will always slap.
>>154867130>Quick! We need to revitalize our show, any ideas?!>Ueer, space?>Nah that's cheap, besides we'd have to bring speculative fiction elements in and that's too much research.>Time travel?>Genius.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqyYkYL9KfA
>>154859331Worst part is that the story arc was left incomplete.
>>154871642Let me guess, he said he (Lorenzo) didn't sound like him and that he wanted his character to sound more like him, and the producers took this as a problem with the actor rather than his performance.
>>154867363>Guess you guys aren't ready for that yet... but your parents will love it.
>>154874852Yeah, that's pretty much what happened.
>>154866419I like Chloe
>>154863271Way worse than the original. At least they kept the end theme the same.
>>154859331This wasnt even the last season was it?
>>154860473I remember when this aired here (so very long ago) it would have this Slimer intro, but the episodes were just Ghostbusters, meaning I never knew who that guy in the intro trying to catch Slimer was.
>>154870363Shredder and Krang became pathetic again by the time they last appeared I think.
>>154866534>>154874374When Rugrats petered out as those direct to DVD fairy tale retellings
>>154860349I was honestly really impressed by how they managed to make Batman's origin work without having to directly show the gun or his parents being shot. Like it's clear they were really tiptoeing around restrictions that should have made it impossible but they managed it anyway.
>>154867273I have no real personal stake or knowledge on Ghostbusters (born in 98), but it sounds like they were either trying to justify their own existence, or they were just power-tripping.>>154867263>>154872037A show promising something darker and deeper only to chicken out happens even today. Amphibia’s second season ended with a character getting stabbed and building up the villain being a tyrant, only for the third season to mostly be fluff focused entirely on light-hearted comedy. And not even like ATLA or Batman where the comedy is weaved in well while the main plot stays serious, they just almost entirely drop the fact the frogs’ homeland is in danger until the writers need to go back.
>>154859382>>154867163Who the fuck is Q5?
>>154877440I think it’s the one after Lauren Faust’s version.
>>154874752Happy Days are here again?
>>154861106I’m almost certain this is what happened.>(show loses ratings)>hey butch.>what?>we’re losing ratings so i decided to add a fairy baby.>$$$$$>think about it a FAIRY BABY! it’ll get the kids to continue watching. also, i’ll hire scott fellows to add all the funny shitting baby jokes for the target audience.>i’m sold.>(show loses ratings despite them revealing timmy was 60 years old but wished to stay 10)>hey butch.>what?>remember that one simpsons episode where they added a dog to the itchy and scratchy show? well lets add our own poochie to our show!>it’s a talking fairy dog who causes a lot of trouble, and is a horrible pet for timmy. also, i’ll hire the coconut fred people to the main writing team.>okay, i’m sold.>(show loses ratings, despite sparky being made as obvious rating bait)>hey butch.>what?>well, the dog backfired, time to put him down (loads shotgun) DIE YOU MANGY MUTT! *shoots*. anyways, i got a cool new idea.>what?>i’m forcing timmy to SHARE his fairies with some random little mary-sue who doesn’t deserve them. also, let’s completely erase poof from the show before having him return and do shitty impersonations.>okay, i’m sold.>(show fucking dies)>hey butch.>what?>let’s make LIVE ACTION ODDPARENTS!>(cancelled after 1 season and deleted from paramount)
>>154879651So long as Butch keeps getting checks, he doesn't care what Nick does to FOP. If anything, he always knows he can go back to them and sign off on another season or spin-off when he needs some fast cash.
>>154879662>hey butch.>what?>i have one more idea up my sleeve.>oddparents, but in 3d and we replace timmy with some quirky black girl.>*the show is quickly dumped onto nickelodeon, put onto netflix and then gets cancelled after one season, despite the makers wanting a second season*>well that just happened.
>>154879662The worst part is that it wasn't an exec mandate, this was all Butch's retardation. I'm trying to find the exact video response that Butch made, but all I can find are these fucking out of context shorts. God, that shit irritates the fuck out of me.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnRbuO65r_Mhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB_4mjZxvHYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj2Exsbz_6g
>>154879776[samefag]Oh, it's this fucking video LMFAO. A washed up has-been vs. a soiboi reviewer? This should be fun...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl6c0p7mh-g
>>154870947truly
>>154876891All Grown Up is peak
When the recap episode tis some sort of first episode retcon
>>154880175AGU was cool.
Bump
>>154877139They wanted to satisfy the Thumpers. Remember that this was Bakker--era 80s
>>154859357The same year Captain N debut. It was also a warning sign Saturday Morning were about to end
>>154882210And then Yo Yogi came in and was the final nail in the coffin for Saturday Morning Cartoons.
>>154859362Real FOP watchers know that Chloe wasn't even the worst part of Season 10.
>>154883479Sparky fucked off during that season, so what could possibly be worse..?
>>154863271Why is Captain Planet Dracula
>>154883520They're using clips from previous seasons
>>154866279I really do wonder if the guy who tried to push elmaria so much was a pedo.
>>154871952I think the problem with the red sky season is that it was trying so hard to be like BTAS without understanding what made BTAS great, instead it just came off as try hard, BTAS had actually good story telling and compelling characters, treating the audience with respect while red sky was just bootleg biker mice from mars, it was surface level crap to sell toys and the stories they had were tame, BTAS dealt with serious topics in a mature way.as for fast forward, it's problem is that it over-corrected and became too juvenile while 2003 was dark and probably went too far with a few things for a Saturday morning cartoon (especially with leo's angst saga), fast forward was just so kiddy and dare I say "toyetic"
>>154883553Ok why was he dracula last season?
>>154859331There is something comforting yet exciting with the tone and color theories of 80s kids shows. The bright color pallet and jingle tunes screams adventure to my young self.
>>154859357That was from a previous season Planeteer Alert about bats getting a bad rap
>>154859431Wasn't this the only one with a toyline behind it?
>>154859431Was Samurai the only multicultural friend that stuck around for this one?
>>154860473So who is the weird Far Side guy in the intro looking for Slimer?
>>154884219Oh that makes sense. Thanks
>>154861241There were way too many episodes featuring the B-Team of Shining Knight, Vigilante, and a few other characters that have no fans.
>>154884309That's supposed to be a scientist named "Dweeb", not making this up. He's meant to be part of the generically-named "Slimer" show that was part of the Slimer & The Real Ghostbusters block.
>>154883951Red Sky seasons still had goofy wacky villains every week so it was still a failure to "Get Serious" since it was clearly a mandate from above but the entire crew were still in Looney Tunes mindset about how a cartoon is made.
>>154884384Which is also a common Far Side name
>>154884430Yeah that too, they tried hard to do serious topics like fake news and such but it just came off as corny PSA level stuff unlike BTAS that felt more organic without coming off as overtly preachy or hitting you over the head with needing to explain it, like stories about abusive relationships, drug/substance abuse, corrupt systems, morality and other things of that nature.people at the time fundamentally didn't understand the point of BTAS, that's why we ended up getting static shock which was more hitting you over the head with it's lessons, granted it still respected it's audience alot more then red sky turtles.
>>154883498I haven't watched it myself, but that anon may be talking about the switch to cheap flash animation in the middle of the season.Which coincidentally is also a pretty decent sign your show's on its way to the grave: extremely visible budget cuts
>>154866534>>what if the Smurfs were characters on Star TrekThis. Once you have to resort to sci fi parodies of famous movies or TV shows. Its pretty much over.
>>154859357God, I miss Lorenzo Music
>>154859365I kinda get that they didn't really need to introduce each character any more, but splicing in clips was so lazy>>154859431Why the fuck is Joker hanging out with Darkseid? What are those two going to talk about?>>154860405Nice of the intro to acknowledge the existence of the rest of Mystery Inc
>>154867402 the fall of Channel 6.........
>>154885962...do you think the channel 6 news boss looks like trump intentionally?
>>154859331Interesting, I don't even remember this on Cartoon Network in the early 90s
>>154874374Spongebob has a proper endpoint and it's the first movie. Anything after that doesn't exist.Just like Behind the Laughter is a good endpoint for Simpsons
>>154861241There are too many 9/10 and 10/10 episodes of JLU for this to be a failure. I'm glad it exists even if it rushed the ending.
>>154859340The theme song is great though, you got to give it that.
>>154886108It was so smurfing horrible that it never aired on CN
>>154876586It was
>>154866353>>154866460>>154866506Anon, quit fucking samefagging already, thia is getting sad.
>>154859362Really? Not the Baby or the literal Poochie, but the girl?
>>15488610890s Britbong here, I don't remember seeing any of this shit on TV as a kid, aside from Scrappy-Doo and Chipmunks Go To The Movies. We had reruns of TMNT, Smurfs and Real Ghostbusters from the good seasons, and that was it.That said, we didn't get more than the basic channels until we got Sky Digital, which wasn't until 2000.
>>154861405At least back to the sewers themsong was catchy.
>>154859331A little over the top but a good example of a cartoon who's entire production team got replaced by a different group of animator and artist.
