CREATE something you useless good for nothing 4channers. You never create anything.It's 2026. You have Photoshop, you have Toonboom, you have generative large language models, you have Patreon, Kickstarter, you have social media where to post it.You have no excuse to not create something that's ACCEPTABLE.If the people who were working on 80s stuff had access to this technology we'd already be Jetsons level of advanced compared to you. I GOT YOUR MOTIVATION RIGHT HERE.
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>it’s this ideaguy faggot trying to recruit free labor for his project again
But what if I only want to make Smiling Friends porn?
How many of you ran away from home?
>>154871537*SWATS him* useless fucking africano corona
>>154871502Niggas who obsess over "art" are so pathetic.
>>154871502I'm trying man but I've just gotten started and when looking at how much fucking work is ahead of me I feel discouraged. Almost halfway through season 1 and I'll get into drawing the characters/setting at a later date. I've got story beats in mind already but getting to them and writing dialogue is fucking hard and exhausting. I think my best bet is getting it in comic format and praying that it gets a tv adaptation. It's easy to have fun shitting on things but actually creating something takes a lot out of you and I'm only at the "easy" part.
>>154871502I don't respond well to threats and bullying. Go away.
>>154871608Seethe, loser
>>154871622>>154871611*SMACK SMACK SMACK SMACK SMACK* WHAT DID YOU SAY, BLACKMAN?
>>154871502>CREATE something you useless good for nothing 4channers.I make 6k per month on Patreon. I create sometimes there.
>>154871608aight.
>>154871502I feel you. thats why I started learning to draw for my comic Lustless - princess of the universe. My dream is for it to be a finished normal physical floppy comic. I agree its odd wwe have more tools than professionals of the past so after that the barrier is the individuals willingness to engage with the tools.
>>154871641NotOP btw.
>>154871638You are gay
>>154871502Many of my ideas end up in other things. So I don't really try to create much of anything on 4chan anymore.
>>154871502>Walks into library>WRITE something you useless assholes
>>154871502I didn't know John K's father was a 4channer.
>>154871714something something ultimate form of flattery
Fine. Here's a picture of King henry 8th (and how we're taught the metric system in America)
>>154871502I do create. But I make the stuff for myself. I don't upload it anywhere, not only because it's shit but because I don't need to feed the insatiable AI scraping machine. I already work a day job so I don't need to make money off it.
>>154871502Nigger, I don't want to create. I have one idea and it's the same retarded idea I had from childhood. I don't have motivation nor time nor money to devote hours into learning about art nor will I dive headfirst into it just to be mocked and torn apart by art school failures-turned-Youtube vultures. It was a nice dream but so was me being a 6'0 chad plowing prime Avril Lavigne's pussy.
>>154871783>Average Lavigne'sYour idea was shit.
>>154871760Honestly, he would fitted
>>154871830You are average, and even lower
Is 4chan a good gauge for how many people would be interested in your concept? or is it actually the worst place not just in terms of critique but in terms of lack diverse demographics and population that can actually notice your work?Also where do I find people who actually have something to say? If I read another like/dislike/meh with nothing inside it I'm going to snap. Creating art was supposed to be my way of expressing myself artistically, intellectually and having something to talk about in great detail with a large group of artistic people, but everyone seems to be a popcorn consumer with nothing to say. It ironically makes you feel lonelier to create than to consume.
>>154871735>Walks into the teacher's lounge>Why don't you losers get a real job if you're so educated and knowledgeable at your respective subject matters? :^)
>>154871830That's my point nigger.Regardless, Goose and other indie darlings went to art school.
>>154871869Social media is mostly bots, people who are just brainwashed by the algo bots and lunatics, and incentivizes short term emotional bullshit without much thinking.And there is no open or small and interactive platforms that you can be a part of after google ruined the net, social media dissected it's corpse and AI buried the remains and poisoned the earth so nothing can ever grow. You will have to find people IRL or be lucky enough to find an online small guarded gated community of people to interact with.
if I do, I'm not sharing it here to be stolenlol
>>154871502because they are all larpers, I got a professional storyboarder, designer and recent grad animator for someone and they dropped the ball. In the past I reached out saying I'm willing to do others projects with them just for them to be lazy basement dwellers. People who are serious about it our in private chats/servers/ or platforms like twitter and insta.
>>154872055Nobody wants to steal diarrhea. Lol. :P
>>154871502Most 4channers are unironic spEDs or failing high school dropouts or social studies graduates. I'm done believing in the "talented but lazy" rhetoric. It clearly doesn't apply here.
>>154872161>>154872079Only you can live your dream, ignore them
>>154871502I want to make cartoons, and although drawing and animating will take an eternity, I have no idea how I'd go about recruiting or utilizing voice actors. I don't use any social media whatsoever.
>>154872254>drawing and animating will take an eternityCan't you just tackle one thing at a time? Like, if you have an idea for a cartoon, why not write out the characters and plot outlines first? Just get something done every day starting right now. Put money aside to budget for it too. Of course if that's how you're looking at it, lamenting about your lack of drawing skills, funds, connections, etc. than how are you going to work up the nerve to work toward it every day for the rest of your life until it's finally realized?
AI made me realize that the animation industry is dead no matter how good your product is. It basically fast forwarded me so I can have a working product and notice that nobody is watching, let alone buying.I cannot wait to be proven right when the Monkey Wrench episode airs this week with their new character. The Internet ruined marketing and ruined movies and ruined animation, that's why everyone gravitated towards video games where you still have to interact with the damn thing.
>>154872373The media industry in america is ran by out of touch with reality sociopathic monsters who can only be described as demonic.They do not give a fuck about anything or one. All media is under threat of destruction by AI with video games made with AI being shit out by the ton now. And IP as well as human creativity are now worthless and drowned out by oceans of total shit online. The only path forward is to acknowledge that the free open high trust interent is now dead and create enclosed protected communities online that keep out bots and shills. Even going so far as to ban entire nations and VPNs from joining. Search engines(just google to be honest) and open social media hubs are also dead now.
>>154872335>drawing and animating will take an eternityThat’s just true, this is more of a post-commitment to the work comment than the real complaining itt you have in mind
>>154872335I wrote my post incorrectly. I meant that I CAN draw and animate, and while it'll still take an eternity I CAN do it. Pretty confidently too.My post was about having to deal with voice actors. I already live paycheck to paycheck so I can't afford other people.
I did, I made a sample picture, and you said my art was shit so I'm not sharing it again until it's good to me (It never will be). No I'm not sharing what it was, I don't want to be those faggots on 4chan who share the bare scrap of my idea and then howie about how I never progress it but it will be SO good when it's done I swear because I want the dopamine of people telling me the skeleton is good, because eventually other autists will notice the project and a-log it and then I can't post it/be embarassed at how little has progressed...BUT I'm also too autistically driven to tell you I AM working on something because I need people to precisely understand my situation and get reassuring replies to it, or even spiteful condemnations to scare me back into not replying. Imean the last thing you want is to not get any yous for all you typed, because then what's the fucking point of being honest with 4chan about something.Niggers.
>>154871681It takes BALLS to post something like that, especially on 4chan. You've got courage, so I can say you're on the right track.
>>154871502i work 9hr days my guy. but seriously i do, i just dont post it here
>>154872254>>154872504>My post was about having to deal with voice actorsthis anon thinks he needs "voice actors," lolyou don't want them, and you certainly don't need them.Use your own voice. TRAIN it to make it different.You already learned to draw and animate to a passable level. The hardest part is already done.
>>154872654>crackhead mindset
>>154872654>just voice the female characters yourself anon>doesn't matter if you're a base or baritone just train yourself>also take HRT if you need help it'll work trust meNigga wants every cartoon character to sound like Dr Girlfriend
>>154872225i legit don't have an idea in mind, i think of everyone in their momma trying to make a "pilot" I would maybe just want an animator to just animate some of my OC's and be content. Maybe an idea for it come come down the line but but very generic shorts of like 10-15 seconds is the best I could do.I love doing pin up girls/girl characters. It brings me joy
>>154872725>pay some whore e-thots to voice your character, anon. They may be expensive, but trust me, you'll need them.>pay for the dudes too, bro. I mean, sure, you're already a man and can do it yourself, but those useless retards need the money no matter how long they may take for it.>it's totally gay to do it yourself, but hey, let's invest in some insufferable faggots instead of directing the project yourself, welcome to the indie industry, bro!>(Professionalism isn't the priority, so don't overthink the timing or any throwbacks that may occur lol).Good Lord, you got your panties in a twist. Thank God I didn't even mention using AI (another valid option, by the way), since you would've gone apeshit on me.
>>154872254Fiverr has thousands of voice actors
>>154871502>you have generative large language modelsTwitter told me that this is plagiarism or something.
>>154871869>Also where do I find people who actually have something to say?Paid focus groups.
>>154871502>You have Photoshop,Why would I use photoslop when there's a whole mess of better alternatives?>you have generative large language modelsYes, let me not make things to...make things.Are you a fucking retard? That's without getting into how absolutely trash LLM output is.>>154871774>But I make the stuff for myselfUnironically based, godspeed my good man.>>154872544>you said my art was shit so I'm not sharing it again until it's good to meGet over it and post anyways.
>>15487168110/10 would fap
>>154871502Creativity was beaten out of me 25 years ago when I told my family I wanted to be a writer.
>>154871502I am creating. Currently working on a character rig>Show usNo, I'm never showing my wips or ideas here. I'm not about to get cucked like backrooms anon was
>>154871502I don't have the skill or patience to create anything worth while
>>154873204Slop is everywhere and LLMs make all media worthless. The sheer volume of slop flooding the net hides the human made good piece of work beneat waves of shit.
>>154871774> I don't need to feed the insatiable AI scraping machine. >>154871502OP this ^ is why I don’t want to create anything. Why feed the ai? Why? Why? Why? Why? You create something. You’re going to see thousands of. Ai generated copies of your work. Who wants that?
>>154872567I have actually received fan art and compliments from it so I think its better to just be open about it. for example I want it to be printed and read as a normal comic. So it wouldnt make sense to be secretive or assume people wont like it. The only insults I receive are from people who like personally literally dislike me for unrelated reasons. Also thanks for your nice words appreciate it.
>>154871502People pay me to draw my fursona cucking them.That's my motivation.
I wanna create (it's semi-coomer shit)Would love to do art for a Katawa Shoujo level game. A game with heart and hornyBut capitalism keeping me in the work art mines for now
>>154871502>you have generative large language modelsThose don't create, they vomit
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>>154872567>It takes BALLS to post something like that, especially on 4chanNTA. Eh more like a calm mind and a careless mind so you don't end up breaking your window when you can't e-stalk that ONE fucking Bhutanese and Brazilfag whore who really wants your white dick. The problem isn't getting insulted but rather ignored, you get 1-2 wagecuck retail monkeys that have nothing better to do than stalk you when they have 2 days off, but the other 49 anons ignore you and never repost your stuff forcing you to learn to use bots or just get a grip and understand that 4chan is dead and does not respect nor follow creative vision and anything that isn't their preferred overindulgent fetish requested by them.This is the first time I actually use ART AI , I didn't give it a proper chance until now because last time it was DALL-E 3 through BING where it couldn't understand what a Tyranid and a Zerg looked like.So I was pretty impressed at first and I got lucky cause normally this shit only allows you a max of 3 images, but I got lucky for having an old account at them so I can have 20-30 images per account and I have like 4 accounts, I think I can have 12 if I'm serious about it. I don't want to pay even $7 because then I go down the rabbit hole or I start wasting tokens I do not use, albeit there's probably subscriptions. Most AI tutorials are dogshit and people have about as much know-how as a beginner. People got impressed when I https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zmcEuocbSMAPH0Cdu0neR7qOYrOad6dB_PXEnPRM24Y/edit?tab=t.0>>154873101Most of which use AI so you better cut the middleman. Also 99.98% of those Fiverr users cannot sing worth a shit. I watched the Ronno anon here and he definitely quit too early, but I understand him cause he literally said "Why should I call this a /co/ project if /co/ is so dumb and lazy they can't even open a link to see how easy it is? I literally gave them a tutorial and they refused to use it and instead preferred to spam deer pics".
>>154876472Problem which LLMs and a broken Google exacerbates is that there's no filter for quality stuff from all the shit. Just like Canadian cartoons... and today's generation does not know how to promote quality stuff, they only promote Hazbin Hotel and GLITCH studios which serve a very autistic niche taste which I like to call comedy horror children. Like Courage the Cowardly Dog , but without the actual comedy.I went to DeviantArt and while they are initially pretty to look at since the AI ironically copies better design and color theory than the MSPaint autists there, the MSPaint autists have no story to tell and there's no way to filter for anyone who does have a story, vision, larger project to tell. If you don't have a dozen bots and 300+ popular accounts on TikTok and Twitter to repost your shit then you're literally drowning in the slop.Video Games were suffering from it before LLMs even came. The lack of a centralized channel, the lack of official publishers and advertisers, the lack filter is unironically drowning the few gems out there which nobody might know of.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP_2eLNucmUI've spend 2 decades looking for quality cartoon shows in this sea of shit. I stopped looking at TV cause all I had was Nick, Disney, CN, Boomerang. Animal Planet is gone. The jews literally want to drown out the good stuff. Instead of replaying good stuff they keep replaying old stuff and TTGO bullshit. Tron Uprising, Generator Rex, Legend of 3 Caballeros, Green Eggs n Ham?You better save them, watch them online, have ALL the Amazon, AppleTV, Netflix channels or else you'll never know Motorcity, Kulipari, Wakfu and Poet Anderson even exist. Don't get me started on Wakfu where you need a French channel if you don't have internet. Imagine if Code Lyoko and French & Jap cartoons never aired in America.Normally shows keep getting rerun just like The Hub and Nick,
>>154876562but nowadays shows the moment they stop airing new episodes they get the cancellation treatment just like Swat Kats.A centralized FILTERED online TV is what you need nowadays, there's ironically SOME good shows out there which get drowned by the aveage dogshit on Netflix, the average dogshit on CN and Disney.
