CHICKS DIG SPIDER-MAN, jean
>>154975467FFFFFUUUUCCCCCCKKKKKK
Sorry kid, chicks dig giant robots
>>154975467Why would she be surprised at this? He's a peak condition guy with a personality that's safe masculine and a great sense of humourwhy the fuck the ?, is she retarded?
>>154975759safe masculine huh?
>>154975857would you rather I typed an entire paragraph? you got what I meant
I fucking love this ship!
The japs sure loved this pairing.
It took Jean to made me go "It's okay if Peter don't end up with Mary Jane" when she's basically another redhead but superpowers. It won't happen in comics so MCU and maybe some alt universe is our best bet.BTW wasn't there a YA What If novel about Peter and Wanda being siblings and it screams a girls fanfic? Worst case scenario we got that.
>>154976669>It won't happen in comics so MCU and maybe some alt universe is our best bet.I think our best chance is in some cartoon, the cartoons seem the least afraid to go with new ships
I like when superheros are paired with other superheros (or villains) instead of civilians
>>154976687Me too. Wish they would just do away with the whole civilian thing.
>>154976669>BTW wasn't there a YA What If novel about Peter and Wanda being siblings and it screams a girls fanfic?I haven't hard about this until now but, if it's a girls fanfic, chances are that it's thinly-veiled incest.
>>154975712Nice reference but I would hardly call the Iron man Suit Giant.Plus it's not like Tony ever uses the Hulk Buster.
>>154975467The proper parlance is bitches love Spider-Man and this board has fallen so far if we have forgotten that
>>154975467Why didn't Jean just fuck the Spider-Man?>Frank will shoot her during the sexFrank will gun down and let him do the rest for that night
>>154976781It's a YA novel. Practically fanfic got officialized.
>>154975977No way troondaya looks like that. Lmao.
>>154977335They really had to give her asian hair? lol
>>154975467PeterFel is the real deal but it got me wonder if they would be okay with Jean joining them? I mean they already have Cindy on the weekends.
>>154977740what else are supervillians good for
>>154976669>when she's basically another redhead but superpowers.Firestar was basically created to be MJ but with super powers, since they didn't have the rights for the human torch
>>154977335Yeah, call it creative liberties.
>>154977335Curly hair is annoying to draw tbf
>>154975467how can kekclops even compete...
>>154975712LIVING HERE IN JERSEY
>>154975712>Cucked by a tech mogulPain! Suffering!
I never thought a telepathic sociopath could be so cute
>>154979955俺の超能力者なソシオパスがこんなに可愛いわけがない!My Esper Sociopath Can't Be This Cute!!
>>154979955Right? I love broken girls and she hits all the right spots!Weirdly enough Wanda should be the same but I don't feel as much for Wanda
>>154975712>chicks dig giant robotsDoesn't look like it there, lol
>>154980116To be fair Tony isn't a giant robot
>>154980397He can be / builds some
>>154979551Have you ever tried drawing anime hair? That shits like half to three forths of the drawing
>>154975867Yeah. Safe.
>>154979955not a sociopath she was just menstrating
>>154981337...Do ALL female mutants have schizo episodes when on their period?
>>154981337kek women am I right?
>>154981337I sometimes forget women do that, no wonder them broads loopy
>>154981356I haven't read ALL the comics...but it is most of them right?
>>154975501Based. Fuck Wolverine too.
The fact that Black Cat and Jean have gotten so popular lately just mean that nobody likes Mary Jane anymore. Marvel has succeeded in ruining her character
>>154981628>mean that nobody likes Mary Jane anymorPeople like MJ, but they're not gonna keep hoping for something that obviously isn't happening. The others aren't happening either, of course, but at least editorial isn't constantly rubbing your face in it.
>>154981679I feel like no mcu movie could do her right. Did they ever have a sexy character on screen? Like shes supposed to be sexy?
>>154981889>Did they ever have a sexy character on screen? Like shes supposed to be sexy?I mean, yes, but that's also proving your point.
>>154981934Is it weird that I never found her attractive in these movies? Maybe it's the ugly suit.
>>154981934Oh yea. I actually like her actually. Just weird because she was never in a seductive girlfriend role. Honestly it was kinda weird when she died I was just kinda like isn't she a forgetable character? Wonder what the directors thought I would think at that moment.
>>154981994man rizz had no staying power
>Ignore the X-men, Phoenix and cosmic shit. Leave that for an Avengers crossover>There is no Xavier institute, Jean remains a hood rat struggling to make ends meet and starts the show with the barest form of telepathy and telekinesis strong enough to move a coin a few inches by extreme concentration. Her main skill keeps being possessing people>Jean arrives to a city and hoping to prevent others from feeling the loss she suffered, tries her hand at superheroics and keep trying to track the guy who murdered her sister>Turns out she's pretty bad at it and struggles with not going overboard (how does Peter do it?)>Catches the attention of a charming man who she can't easily read and control>He proposes to teach her how to become a proper superhero and shows her that he has a very similar ability to hers to make people obedient>Starts teaching her how to use her abilities but his ruthless methodology clashes with the example Peter set>She ends up rejecting him, after which she learns that he actually wanted to harness her abilities as a weapon>She sets to catch him but he parallels Jean in his use of people as meatshields and makes them commit crimes(CONT)
>>154982157>Show turns into a police series with Jean trying to capture him but struggles because he is too skilled and she has to concede moral ground to get the upper hand>Peter joins shortly after to support Jean and through their relationship get closer to capture the villain>The series shows them starting to date and the mushy parts of their relationship as contrast to the gruesome detective cases Jean solves>Show ends in climatic scene where he puts Peter in danger and Jean has to resist the urge to kill in order to win. She manages to defeat the villain but barely thanks to the power of love and Peter's help, representing the death of the old Jean by capturing the villain instead of resorting to murder>Peter congratulates her for her growth and they watch the sunset>Symbiote arc starts here! >>154979628Also Jessica Jones collaborates in some cases although she displays an inherent hatred for Jean
>>154982171Oh oh and it needs to have a very graphical scene of Peter making love to Jean in missionary position that ends with Jean leg locking Peter and freezing him using her telepathy as he releases sticky ropes of spiderweb deep inside her fiery phoenix
>>154979955
>>154981994>rizzUnc still using that
>>154975501fake news
Another SpiderJean thewd is already going to hit bump limit
>>154982196Leave this thread.
>>154975467
>>154975467I want Yelena and Jean to meet
>>154982302...no
>>154982306The artist gave her huge tits
>>154982333child bearing
>>154982333We need bigger then
>>154982333>>154982359the phoenix force is the force of life
I'm trying to draw them, but I don't think it's cute enough.
>>154977323Who were the parents?
>>154982404We are all a bunch of shippers, not art critics, we take any material
>>154982404
>>154982316>Peter is weirdly insistent that Jean needs to meet Yelena>In her office>It's important >no, no public locations, it's super secure, they gotta go to the office
>>154982310
>>154982662Too old and too ugly. Honestly I don't know what she's lacking but she isn't ScarJo.
>>154982729boobs
>>154982306is the joke that they immediately fucked after the final fight
>>154981379
>>154982662sentrybros, first Knull, then Superboy-Prime now this...when will the humiliation end.
>>154982956greentext of it
>>154982956Peter and Jean animated series would be great
>>154982992What type of men get Jean wet?
Do you think Jean saw Peter fap inside his mind? What if he fantasized about her? A telepathic girlfriend would be so scary
>>154983324>type of menThis is a ship thread, not a softcore porn thread.
RE-posting of what the bed breaking sex would be like between the two of them:>Peter gives in to his arachnid nature and rails Jean the rough way missionary-style>Jean uses her telepathy to make Peter feel how she feels both physically and emotionally as he's fucking her like crazy>the crazy sex becomes a positive feedback loop>This is a huge turn-on for both of them>Jean uses telepathy to make Peter really horny and feel everything she feels>His spider side gives in and proceeds to go into overdrive while he's unconsciously unable to stop because of his biology>The Phoenix randomly manifests from Jean's emotional intensity and sets her on fire including the inside of her vaginaIt writes itself. A comic or even a fic with this would be way too hot.
>>154975501Don't tell Scottie.
Potato lady is trying to trick me into watching her moviesI skipped them for a reason (I forgot)
>>154975501The irony of this dude scoring more times than any other man in history
>>154983618
>>154976470Why because she's a minor?
>>154982729Why did I feel like she was super old too?
>>154983807>she's a minor?stop lying to others. its been confirmed that she and peter are similar in age.seethe more.
You must already know the next movie will have MJ fall in love with Peter a second time and kick her current boyfriend to the curb right?
>>154983778Nice>>154979666
>>154983842Yes.Even most people who love this ship realize this too. Too many third party factors. That is why people are going all out while there is still steam ahead in this ship. Which shows how dedicated they are.
>>154983778kek
Here it is anons, I've archived all the SpiderPhoenix threads that reached bump limit. From oldest (top) from the newest (bottom):https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154877621https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154893227https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154898929https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154916242https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154933242https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154946039https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154951260https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154956043https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154970202https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154968194Crazy. Each day, we've had consitently reached bump limit of ACTUAL discussion about this ship. Many of them containing great ideas and dynamics for them both.It'll slow down in probably a week or so, but this is probably the most I've browsed /co/ and its for a fucking ship of all things. I'm not complaining. Also, it'd help if someone else archives these threads too.Keep posting, SpiderPhoenix anons. I love you all and keep up the good work!
Part of what makes SpiderJean so great is how much it annoys the Zendaya hivemind.>You only like it because it makes people mad?! That’s so petty!Pettiness runs the internet these days, honeybuns.
>>154983842If this happens during Secret Wars, I will genuinely be pissed off to high hell.
>>154983807She’s like 20
>>154983892Thank you anon, doing God's work!
>>154983686I've seen this fanart plenty of times already but for some reason my brain only registers the thumbnail as fanart of these two.
>>154975501Weird meme considering how much Scott fucks everyone that isn't Jean
>>154983778Scotty, don't look.
So if I just become like Peter Parker I too can attract a telepathic girlfriend
>>154983914Out of 10!
>>154980057She is the cutest! I love how she was willing to flatten anyone in her path.I hope Marvel keeps that as part of her character and her struggles to not do it as her first response from shell shock.
>>154983858>Too many third party factors.It's a shame. If Tom and Zendaya weren't a thing IRL I actually think it could happen. Only way it could happen despite that is if Feige thought it'd help more butts in seats and revitalize the MCU.
>>154984045only if you['re as jacked and kind as spiderman
>next jean appearance in whatever x-man movie>she's now the typical quippy snarky girlboss in the lame mcu suits with lines i'm bracing myself early.
>>154984119The problem is that a significant percentage considers them siblings; it’s not like the cases of Nat and Bruce or Bob and Yelena, where the relationships were accepted by more than 80% of people.
>>154984105Why are sociopathic women the hottest?
>>154984141The conciliation of female characters continues.
>>154975467Wait a second, why does Felicia also want to kiss MJ? What run does that happen?
>>154984149i really hope they keep the characterization she had in this film throughout the MCU. i've never really been interested in jean before this movie because she's just so boring to me in the comics and shows
>>154984213she'll be a giant tease to Scott
>>154984119>we could've lived in a timeline where this ship was actually a very real possibility>to the point where it'd be the ONLY thing that is worth talking about in the MCUFUCK. I still don't give a shit about the MCU anymore, but I want to go into the timeline where this ship would actually happen...
>>154984197She's a morally dubious female character so she's automatically bisexualI know the Insomniac games said so, at least, I think the comics might have too.
Mmm, Peter having a harem of Jean Greys.>Famke!Jean Grey>X-Men Evolution!Jean Grey>Sophie!Jean Grey>this new Jean GreyYes, yes!
>>154984213Same. I only read some of the x-men comics and it was usually because of Nightcrawler, Magneto and Mystique but found Jean awfully vanilla and boring. Even worse with the Phoenix arc because I found the writers resorted to contrived reasons to stop her from simply fixing everything/steamrolling everyone in her path.This Jean feels more like a credible street level threat. Dangerous but with vulnerabilities that allow to take her down. Also very 2000's, like if I was watching Chroniclehttps://youtu.be/-YV8tJhGojY
>>154984236
>>154984105>Peter gets gravely injured by like a super powered group of mutants because he technically created the inhibitor collar>she goes batshit insane and starts murdering them with no hesitation to avenge him>after all of that, she cries and weeps for him while he's passed outThis stuff writes itself. It is RIGHT there.
>>154984275ooh yeah, jean really is chronicle. damn, that is a really good mix. honestly would be a fresh new dynamic to make jean the troubled little sister of the x-men instead of the co-leader with scott
>>154984213Comic Jean has the same problem that Cyclops has where their identity is so tied to the X-men that it's hard for them to stand out as their own character. Wolverine is the most popular X-men not just because he's cool, but because he's allowed to to his own thing pretty often. This is Jean's chance to stand on her own as a character and develop meaningful personal relationships with nonmutant characters, which isn't an opportunity shes ever really had before.
>>154984301I love that kinda shit so much.
Just asked a girl out and she said no. So much for the loneliness epidemic.
>>154984144>a significant percentage considers them siblingsI've seen some people saying this, but not a crazy amount. Also saw it less after it was confirmed Peter and Jean are a similar age. I still think the biggest thing cockblocking the pairing from actually happening is MJ being played by Zendaya.
>>154984275It's a shame the Phoenix saga has already been butchered twice because I feel like this Jean actually has the most groundwork for it, she's got legitimate issues and a proven habit of getting in over her head instead of "oops something happened to make me evil". I think they'll be to scared to try and pull from that well a third time, though, and probably for good reason.
>>154984322Even then, I feel like not everything has to revolve around the x-men. I'd rather Jean remain a small street level detective/hero collaborating with Peter and maybe even Daredevil, using her telepathy and possession to find damning proof to solve cases or apprehend criminals. And only use her telekinesis for extreme situations.
>>154984362Being part of a team means their personalities only have to be a certain way.Like "nice, straight laced guy" and "girl" are pretty boring on their own but they're pretty common ingredients in teams because it means they can bounce off of wilder characters but also be the ones that help direct the entire team in a functional direction.Scott especially suffers from this because he shines as the Leader Man of the X-Men, and with his punch vision incontinence, even without having to get brainfucked into being a dominatrix or possessed by a fire bird alien to grow a distinctive personality. When he's with a team, he can standout cause they're all a bunch of weirdos.But then they made him Malcolm X-Man or something for the last two decades, so.
>>154984417God I hope so, not everything has to be like the comics all the time. I like that they're doing their own thing and being experimental with Jean and ITS FUCKING WORKING
>>154984417>It's a shame the Phoenix saga has already been butchered twice That's why I really like the idea of he idea of Jean using the Phoenix to same Peter from Symbiote/Knull. We've seen Jean lose control of the Phoenix and get saved/stopped by her loved ones enough times at this point. Let's flip the script for once and let her use it to save someone she cares about that's lost control. Plus that's exactly the kind of subversive girlboss thing the studio would love.
>>154984436It's a shame She-Hulk was bad enough to get canned because the episodic superhero law format is the only place we'd get an episode with something like "Jean Grey uses telepathy to make lots of criminal accusations, then Jen/Daredevil have to try and find a way to make the accusations stick".
>>154984515>KnullNo, fuck that.
>>154984538They should take Jessica Jones as basis. That one did pretty well and was well directed.Also and I repeat, Purple Man would be an amazing foil to this "new Jean" that is trying to avoid murder and breaking the law as she follows Peter's example.And Jessica could be a sort of gruffy no-nonsense and wary rival/potential mentor figure
>>154975977Sadie Sink and Tom Holland are perfect for each other
>>154984585Zendaya should start to worry
>>154984585>>154984597Unironically, I do find them cute together actually. Even not on film. But dwelling into celebrity discussion is awful no matter what. My point still stands though.
>>154984585Shipping the characters is one thing, shipping the actors is pretty weird.
Did this in the drawthread, thought I may as well share it here
>>154984657Good stuff anon! It honestly fits the timeframe of when the movie took place too.
Fortnite missed out on putting jean gray in the game
>>154984657Hnnngg pocky kiss, the collar, it's too much
>Emma reads Peter's mind and instantly gains respect for him>Ultimate Jean was happy because Peter was the first person not to picture her naked, but saying that jinxed it>MCU Jean goes in Peter's head, and gets talk no jutsu by the memory of Aunt MayPeter is a good counter to telepaths.
>>154976669Just use Firestar instead of mucking up the X-men. Why do they always have to be as difficult as possible
If Tony was around, how would he handle the Jean situation with Peter?
>>154984808something something take away his suit despite him being right on who the bad person is and what they're doing
>>154984768>women goes into man's mind expecting typical disgusting moid thoughts>sees entirely pure thoughts of helping his fellow man and a lifelong devotion to being goodwell duh, that would be catnip to any woman. even villains
>>154984768Who’s that black kid, Miles?
>>154981679Why do they hate Big Breasts? It's a natural body type.
>>154982420>>154982425I finally finished it sorry if it's nothing special. I'm trying to study to improve my fundamentals, but I really wanted to draw something featuring them.
>>154979551It was more about the fact they made the drawing too cute to be Zendaya
>>154984986It is in fact special and cute enough
>>154984986Cute concept. You got solid skills to build on, keep up the good work.
How did "You have me" hit so much better than that line in Wandavision about love and grief? Is it because it sounds like something someone trying to get through to another person would say? I'm just here for the fan art.>215 imagesi'm sure i got some dupes but for something that has only existed for a week holy shit
>>154985100man i thought the cameos would be shit but the way they integrated them it honestly makes BnD the most "comic accurate" spidey movie so far, where spidey just randomly runs into heroes like he does in the comics
>>154985119I actually like the grief line, but it's one of those things that's always exactly as good as it is because it's more of a bit of advice, just a conciliatory phrase for grief, like the ball in the box metaphor or "this too shall pass"."You have me" hits as hard as it does because it carries the weight of being utterly specific to the context in which it is said. It's Peter letting his walls down and inviting Jean to do the same, offering forgiveness to someone who thought she was unforgivable and community to someone who thought she was alone. It's the culmination and encapsulation of the movies arc, that these two suffering people can lessen their suffering by helping each other.
>>154985119This pairing is so good it is tempting me to open a twitter account to repost all art about it.
>>154985384
Can't even save Jean. Spidey's gotta do it. C'mon Cyclops
>>154985454>>154985515this version of emo jean would probably find black suit spidey really hot i bet
>>154985466>Chuck the CuckLMAO!
>>154984022Like?>EmmaWho NOT Fuck Emma?
>>154985515God fucking damn, her tits must be heavy...wew.
>>154985515You'd think Peter would try to catch Jean in a different way after he snapped Gwen's neck.
>>154976470this is a case of "anything to escape the ugly MJ"
>>154984805Was this Iceman gay too?
>>154985800>ugly MJFake MJ you mean. Jean's full name will be revealed to be Mary Jean making her the real MJ.
>>154984896Because old white men love Big Breasts.
>>154984657Nice
>>154982956I WANT MORE
>>154982955It's more a joke you smile at than laugh at.
>First rule 34 art where these two have penetrative sex in their MCU versions is hot sweaty intense missionary lovemakingfits
I like how Peter being immune to Jean's abilities leans into the main theme of Spider-man in a way. He is an adult now so he has more responsibilities then ever. Being an adult means you have a level of agency above those you must take care of and protect. It also emphasizes that Peter always had choices to make in this movie and no one had the ability to take those choices away.
>>154985119Peter knows what Jean's been through, and Jean, since she probed his mind, also know that he can 100% empathize and understand what she's going through.Jean also knows that this isn't a trick just to get her to stop, even though that is part of it, but that Peter genuinely means it when he says "You have me", because that's just the kind of selfless person he is.Followed by him taking a bullet for her for no reason, so now she 200% knows that he wasn't lying since he immediately proved it, even though she already hurt him emotionally with MJ earlier, and then almost killed him by controlling all the soldiers and the hand to fight him, he still tried to protect her.Unless Jean already had a deep relationship with someone else prior to this, it's basically impossible NOT to fall in love with him after all of that.
>>154985119>>154986485It is very important that they had similar experiences AND Peter is the first person to ever consent to Jean's mind probing. Mind reading is potentially the most humiliating and intrusive thing you can do. The mind is the most private thing you can share. In real life you can't even do this, just share an interpretation of your mind. But Peter let Jean all the way in. When Peter says "you have me" it is the most honest thing she has ever experienced. She has him cornered in the root of his own brain. He can't lie to her. It probably amazes her. When he says it he means it. She doesn't know what to say. She hasn't seen this level of respect since her sister died.
>>154986565She has to ask because she can't check
I said it in a previous thread but the smart thing to do would make this the central dynamic of the mcu just like Cap and Tony were
>>154984768Emma wants Big Spidey cock. How bad is scottie
>>154984838It's more powerful that it's while he's in the black suit
>>154986565Holy fuck that jean, @???
>>154986681https://x.com/hero13376/status/2086866772527903206
>>154982306Extremely wholesome
>>154984805because more people know Jean Grey than Firestar, simple as.
>>154986697Ty
>>154976696KEK
I hope Friendly Neighborhood takes from this film. Choosing WAVE as Spider-man's love interest is an even bigger crackship than Spiderphoenix.
>>154986754It just occurred to me that Friendly Neighborhood Peter having a sudden rage fit at his season finale was probably arachnid mode
>>154986266Didn't realize she was shielding him from the rain at first. Cute.
>>154984805>>154986714When she becomes MCU Phoenix she will basically be FirestarCalling herself Firestar but has the Phoenix Force
>>154986923Hasnt the mcu switched around which character is which super before? Not counting civilians like Ned but other characters
In an AU cartoon setting how would Peter and Jean meet? Classmates? Neighbors?I am kind of liking the idea of feeding into the "rival" parallels and starting them off having loose encounters as children that eventually lead to their superhero lives Preferably I wouldn't want it to be like the cartoon where Ms Marvel is already an Avenger when Peter becomes Spider-man. I would prefer it if Jean and Peter meet before she has anything to do with the X-men like the MCU.
>>154983892I'm sure it will wind down pretty soon but the fact that so many threads hit bump limit from just talking about the dynamic between Spider-man and Jean Grey is impressive on its own. There really is a lot of material to work off of with these two characters
>>154983807Fake news.https://x.com/Anime_lover_047/status/2084852368227909734https://x.com/Sabrina_S2/status/2084924257289568636/video/1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ4an60ZmvcReminder that this theme embodies Peter and Jean's bond. Romantic or not. Siblings or not. This is definitely about them.
I sense foids and foidslop itt
>>154987292the ship heavily appeals to women. you can tell by the porneven if it isnt actually made by woen the conent of this ship focuses heavily on romance and feels instead of sex and gratificationmost male centric ships focus on portraying the woman as a horny sex hole while most female ships focus heavily on the man being an emotional sponge Jean abuses Peter in this movie. She intentionally traumatizes him as hard as she possibly can. The idea of a man forgiving you for a psychotic crashout is a huge female fantasy.
[Verse 1]I understood lonelinessAnd understood what love isMaking use of my five sensesI will save youWhich means I will also save myselfIn the end we areBoth humans[Chorus]Going beyond "I love you"So I guess I'm not alone anymoreIf I'm up-beatThe darkness will liftAh, while hold your words close to my heart, yeah[Interlude](Going beyond I love you)(So I guess I'm not alone anymore)(If I'm up-beat, the darkness will lift)[Verse 2]When the wound in my chest begins to hurtWhat do I sacrifice, and what do I save?Everything is perhaps inevitableMy justice is hereYou might also likeMrs. GREEN APPLE - Brand New (Romanized)Genius RomanizationsBrand NewMrs. GREEN APPLEoh yeah?Steve Lacy[Verse 3]I breathe and I'm awareThe intense pain of living has meaningI believe at the same time, I face a helplessness that I battle every day[Chorus]I try to surprise myselfI just try to update myselfSingin' in the rain and swingin' in the rainAh, while holding your words close to my heart[Bridge]Coccoons surround people's dreamsI shake hands with hopeI take another good look in the mirrorIt's a brand new me[Chorus]Going beyond "I love you"So I guess I'm not alone anymoreIf I'm up-beat, the darkness will liftAh, while holding your words close to my heart[Post-Chorus]I try to suprise myselfI just try to update myselfSingin' in the rain and swingingAh, while holding your words close to my heart[Outro]Going beyond "I love you", oohSo I guess I'm not alone anymore
>>154985100He really is Ultimate spider-man. Now if only he had to deal with the Ultimate Goblins>>154985616Everyone finds the black suit cool
>>154987299Appeals to the male fantasy of "I can fix her" that's why it's so popular it appeals to both sides, it's simply that good
>>154986565This is a Toyko ghoul reference, right?
>>154987358Tokyo Ghoul is an enemies to lovers anime too
>>154987364So was Spider-man brand new day(the movie I don't remember jack shit from that era of comics other than new ways to day volume) just some accidental anime BS? That would explain meet head punisher.
>>154987373No accident. They had Kishimoto show up on Disney Plus and had him say that Naruto villains are based on Spider Man villains by having them be in a dark place instead of pure evil.Jean is the villain of this movie and she fits his description of Naruto villains
>>154987383What anime/manga is going to get brought into spider-man 5?
>>154987317>I will save you>Which means I will also save myself>In the end we are both humansThis has to be about Jean and Peter. How can it not be? It can’t be about MJ and Peter since when he saves her, he hasn’t really saved himself narratively. He saved Jean with the “you have me” speech, he also saved himself by having the courage to let someone in after so long. Jean also saved Peter in return and doing so saved herself as she was able to embrace the good side in her when she breathed for Peter, keeping herself from falling deeper into the hatred she felt. There’s also the thematic parallel with the “in the end we are both human” verse since both of them are super-powered individuals carrying a lot of trauma and pain but both are only human deep down, and them saving each other by embracing their humanity was what mattered in the end, not fighting.>Going beyond I love youCome on, this is obvious. Taking a 50 cal to the back and breathing for someone to keep them alive for who knows how long goes beyond I love you. It’s action, it’s saying “you are worth my life” without actually saying it.
>>154987489>you are worth my lifeFucking legendary
>China, Japan, Korea are all on board with this ship>picrel artist became a Spider-Man fan just because of BNDGoddamn.
>>154987489Spider Man lying and saying he's okay just so Jean feels safe to leave him breaks my heart. He was dying. His life was over and he prioritized her
>>154987489At this point in the movie Jean had done so many horrible things. Peter has tossed away criminals much less bad than her so something about her circumstances must have resonated with him
>>154975467yes, women's pre-selection is part of harem psychology
>>154984022Because now Jean belongs with Peter.
>>154986485Stahp I really want them to end up together dammit T_T Please god please move forwards with them starting with Secret Wars.
>>154986485>Followed by him taking a bullet for her for no reason, so now she 200% knows that he wasn't lying since he immediately proved it,man this never occurred to me even after reading through these threads, peter says "you have me" then immediately takes a 50cal to his spine, goddamn man proved his words immediately, i now ship them 110% after this realization
>>154983686This really would go hard
>>154987581>ChinaThe one time I want them to pander to China by making this ship official.
>>154985699Peter apparently, Emma turned herself from a queen bee slut to a trad wife once she read Peter’s mind. Imagine being such a catch that the school’s whore cleanse herself
"Are you Peter Parker or are you Spider-man" really says a lot about Jean's mindset
>>154987672Frankly when first watching it I was somewhat disappointed because right after he said "You have me" I was hoping she would respond or more (she did smile tho), but the bullet is a cockblock.And then I realized taking a bullet is a stronger showing of love because Jean is definitely falling for him by those two actions.
>>154983892Thank you good sir
>>154984986That's great anon
>>154987086If you wanna keep Jean Grey on the run aspect, have her be someone he runs into around Queens and thinks she's just some asshole who lives around the area until the big reveal that she's homeless (though presumably she just mind controls people to be in their house or something).Maybe she's fucking around trying to find her sister (if you also wanna keep that) or doing something else where she's not necessarily vigilante-ing but getting into shit that crosses paths with Spider-Man.
>>154984986Ooooh that's so cute
>>154987710She immediately starts panicking about him dying, so it was definitely the write emotional thing.
>>154984805Firestar has a great ass too.
>>154987581I don't know about Korea or China, but Japan tends to pay artists to do stuff like this to promote movies.
parker self insert fags are at it againYou will never be spiderman
>>154987710I am pretty sure the point of that scene is that she was stun locked. Jean has never been on positive terms with another person like this. She doesn't know what to say
>>154987086I would probably do like, small time enemies to rivals to friends to something more.Like...>Jean starts out as a mischievous "villain", just pranks and testing their powers. (There is no X-men or Xavier school right now)>Spider is still growing into heroism and they get mixed up. A similar dynamic to Black Cat is created. This is more fun than actual crimes and preventing them.>Unknowningly they run to each other in public life as friends. Not tied to their nightly activities but still they get decently along.>Eventually, they team up against a bigger threat, be it a Spider villain or Jean villain.>At the climax, their identities get revealed and they have a "You are PETER/JEAN!?"
>>154975467True, everyone wants to fuck Miles
I think ideally Spidey Jean should end up in the field of "More than friends but less than lovers" like Lucy and Natsu. If you make them lovers something might feel off. Leave that for the epilogue, not the actual story.
>>154987777Okay Shameik
>>154987781>Lucy and NatsuThe fucking author draws shit like this and expects people to think they’re not lovers?
>>154987735>>154987758And to add she desperately doesn't want Peter to go because it's the first positive thing she ever got in a long while and about to lose him.
>>154987805>The fucking author draws shit like this and expects people to think they’re not lovers?Yes
>>154987992I think it's good she has no dialogue after she starts breathing for Peter. Leaves it up in the air what she's feeling
>>154987805I'm going to trace this picture but with Peter and Jean
>>154988022shia-labeef-DO-IT.gif
This pairing really piqued my interest. So I decided to search them on youtube and oh boy the comments were really something else. They were trying to force them as "sibling coded" and lying that Jean is 14 years old.Zendaya fans are rattled.
>>154984986I'd rather see stuff like this than AI slop. Keep it up dude
>>154988084Even if they end up as sibling coded, it's one of the few moments of genuine humanity in this franchise at this point which is why it's just so fucking good. Them as lovers is kino. Them as found family is kino. Lightning in a bottle. I doubt we'll have anything as good.
>>154988084Has anyone told them that Feige already said that they were similar in age?
>>154988098Honestly, I take both. I just keep using the AI art for porn side and not shipping side of Jean/Peter
>>154984768Why is Emma pointing at me?
>>154988120It'd be very funny if Spider-Man was somehow "the cool older guy" for the next crop of X-Babies and they're jealous that Jean gets to be on a first name basis with him.>Spider-Man never gave ME mind meld therapy...>Must be nice...>Wait, Jean, did you kiss Spider-Man!?>Technically, no.
>>154988221I can't take Storm seriously with that hair...
>You now remember when the 90s cartoon X-Men showed up on Spiderman TAS, and one of the first things they did was Rogue hitting on Peter
>>154984853Miles while never be Black Spider-Man, he’s Spider-Token at best and Spider-Boy Jr at worst
>>154988084I'm not even crazy shipper and don't care if it happens or not. Peter and Jean just have a way more interesting dynamic. Michelle was just not interesting but all the Jean and Peter art is cool
An invisible red thread connects those who are destined to meet, regardless of time, place, or circumstance. The thread may stretch or tangle, but it will never break
Okay, but why Jean Grey, though? It's almost as random of a choice as Kitty Pryde.She sure works for this movie, but it's pretty much a 90% OC from MCU.
>>154987747Nuh uh I could easily be Spider-Man
>>154988440Maybe this Jean is not just Jean Grey but a composite character/reference like Ned? MCU was quite OCish already.
>>154988440Jean Grey is the perfect foil to Peter Parker and with her power sets, they can write a compelling story without revealing her identity. Kevin explained it >>154980266
>>154975501>>154988456No you won’t, cyke
>>154988440Because they wanted to tie in X-Men and the director wanted to make a movie about socially distant zoomers. Why Jean specifically? Beats me, but her more limited skill set was great to pit against Spider-Man.>>154988438Domo Arigato Mr. Roboto.
NOBODY WANT TO SEE US TOGETHER BUT IT DONT MATTER NO (CAUSE I GOT YOU BABE)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McC4-n4J9Zo
>>154988440It was Mr. Negative and they switched it to Jean
>>154988493Ahhh sonic shorts. Those were the fucking days man
>>154979955Is it true Japanese fans love Jean tying up her hair like that?
>>154988511Women with bangs are the best
>>154984896The same reason /co/ hates lesbians. Pandering is only OK when it's to your tastes, specifically.
>>154988511I've heard the Japanese are freaks like that
>>154988511who gives a shit what the bugs like
>>154988598Why are you so angry? I know, you like cyclops
>>154988583Okay Epstein, back to your concentration camp >>154939896
>>154988629That thread looks extremely boring. Even Epstein got to watch TV I think.
>>154988523Could anyone explain why? Not trying to be funny, just curious.
>>154988635Nice...a new favorite.
>>154975467I JUST GOT THAT GUY RUN OVERWITH MY FREAKIN' MIND
>>154987805
>>154977323This is so ultimate.
>>154976781>>154977323>>154988690Does it have incest tho?
>straight ship is popular in the big 26destin you son of a bitch!
>>154988704Straight ships is the norm since the dawn of human history. It’s just that we allowed the gays to somewhat co-exist. That being said, if they get anymore loud than they already are, we’ll beat them with hammers
>>154975467She could've just flashed her tits to catch Spider-man off guard if the mind control thing wasn't working
>the fastest /co/ threads in recent years are over a crackship born from MCUslop_____________based_____________
What really stuck out to me about this movie is that the previous 3 movies all tried to portray Peter as cute and sometimes used this as the butt of the joke. They made jokes about the fact that he was a teenager who played with legos and liked talking about moviesIn this movie it is not a joke. When he plays with legos with Ned it's genuinely played as a moment of emotional recovery from what Jean put him through. This movie was taking a massive risk by trying to portray Jean as forgivable. The thing about most anti heroes and redeemed villains is that they aren't bullies. Zuko is a bad guy but not willfully cruel to anyone who isn't in his way. Jean tried to maximize the emotional damage she could do to Peter.
>>154988688Nice job!
i'm surprised that officially the only time the symbiote and phoenix force were ever associated with each ohter was a marvel rivals season pass
>>154988752Zuko bullied everyone around him in season one.
>>154988084Your mom lied and said she was 14 years old.
>>154988701All this ultimate and the bit that really annoys me is “in the Balkans”.
>>154988629I’m glad Epstein got away and he’s back to posting on 4chan like the rest of us.
>>154986266Soo cuuute!
This ship is too good for me. The sweetness. The parallels. The dynamics. The canon. The fanon. The stuff Marvel will never do. Looking at the fanart fills me with joy.
>>154986534>The mind is the most private thing you can share. In real life you can't even do this, just share an interpretation of your mind. But Peter let Jean all the way in.So are you saying Jean basically penetrated Peter with her thick, throbbing mind cock?
>>154988970post the pasta
>>154976696
>>154988970I woke up just in time to answer.If we're comparing it to sex, this is super sex. The reason is because you can't share your mind with anyone. It is impossible. You can share your interpretation of your thoughts through words and have them interpret what you mean and decide if you're being honest.No humans will ever know the true experience of having access to someone else's unfiltered thoughts and memories. Peter has a special resistance to Jean's powers, but he doesn't know how strong that resistance is. Letting her in is risking a lot. Letting her see all of his insecurities, his failures, every time he was humiliated or hurt. Every time he was wrong about something. Every time was IN the wrong about something. Dark moments like trying to kill Norman. Hell she might have seen all the porn he's seen in his life and how he felt about it. She knew that May was his aunt without having to be told about it meaning Jean read the context of the situation on a metaphysical level instead of just watching it. We call our genitals our private parts, but the brain is truly the most private part. Peter was the perfect guy for this situation, not just because he is immune to her powers but because he's Peter. He isn't a near-perfect god of a man like Steve or a womanizer like Tony. He's a level of good any normal person can attain. It is possible for someone like him and Jean to be happy. Jean got to see the world through his eyes and learn i she didn't have to be alone and that there's good people out there like May.
>>154987610Right? That was so sweet>>154987616I think it has to do with choice. A lot of villains chose to do evil out of greed or madness and need to be taken to a hospital or mental facility. As a matter of fact Jean was also taken out by Peter and put in a facility, only later did he realize he fucked up by leaving Jean to the shadowy glowie organization that wants to vivisect her to see what makes her tick. He was also correcting his fuck up in a way
>>154985403>>154985384>104 pages of this artGrim
>>154987581Yeah especially this guy loves drawing art of them.
>>154987728>Maybe she's fucking around trying to find her sister (if you also wanna keep that) or doing something else where she's not necessarily vigilante-ing but getting into shit that crosses paths with Spider-Man.Make her be blamed for things the Purple Man does. He just happens to be in the neighborhood, maybe he can control Peter while Jean can't since his ability is chemically based so that's how they identify that its not Jean's fault
>>154988440I thought for sure the after credits would be Processor Xavier scooping her up
I mean sending the mentally unstable BPD chick with godlike powers to jail sounds like a bad idea. Waiting until charles comes around who can help her with her powers seems more logical
>>154989013Jean getting a hug from a mother like figure when her own mother abandoned her was so simple yet so good. God damn the climax was great.
I hate it when the main character has a boring love interest and there's another girl/guy who is more interesting
>>154987747Doesn't matter, I'd rather be Reed
>>154989117When is that NOT the case?
Peter living with Jean and telling her she can't make the loud neighbors deaf
I also noticed that the finale is like two online people meeting each other for the first time
>>154987747WrongWe are all Spider-MenBy Stan Lee's design
>>154988471>socially distant zoomers.I mean maybe MCU Jean's ability can be seen as a metaphor for screens or how she can enter others' minds but never quite connect...or something.
>>154989241Hwh yeah. Peter and Ned
>>154988635Jean is so lewd! Must come with experiencing the darkest recesses of everyone's minds all the time. Wonder if she ever possessed a MCU's 4channer
>>154988635Jean was so horny in that scene
>>154988987I had no idea there is a pasta, and it isn't even Christmas!
>>154988987>>154989280Here
>>154989013>He isn't a near-perfect god of a man like SteveNow you got me curious, what would Jean's reaction be if she got to enter Steve's mind. Not even in a romantic scene, but it must be out of this world
>>154989085Nah, I hate how convoluted the x-men plots always are. Why can't we have Chronicle hood-rat Jean learning to superhero from trial and error?
>>154989288Thank you anon!
>>154983778heh
them at least not having a friendship would be a huge waste
>>154989326guess instead of logan, jean will be peter's main bff in the xmen
>ITT: Spider-Keks try (and hilariously fail) to escape their humiliation ritual
>needed a spider man movie to introduce mutant'swhy not just introduce them in the fucking XMEN movie?
>Scott got cucked before showing up
>>154989338NO ONE cares about the X-Men! MCU Jean is much better off in her own show
You guys are bantering for fun but I genuinely don't want Jean to join the X men. I want her to go on adventures with Peter. I know it won't happen
>>154989367>I know it won't happenfor me it's the symbiote vs phoenix idea, which is probably more impossible to pull off
>>154975467Kitty Pride was Spider-Man's/Parker's healthiest relationships
>>154989383that costume stinks
>>154989367Same. She doesn't even need to count as a mutant, maybe she is just one of the many glowie experiments or got the avatar from somewhere like Asgard. Maybe a remnant of Wanda's fuckery which is why her powers are so similar to Scarlett WitchMostly mind control and telekinesis can be a weaker form of reality warping like Wanda did
>>154988671there was a guy in my theater that burst out laughing at that scene
>>154989388Who's Kitty's?she usually doesn't use a costume she had one just for Peter's sake
I know the movie wants an optimistic ending but I simply do not believe Jean came out of this learning not to hurt innocent people. She is cool with Peter but I can't image a speech and some memories to fix someone who throws old people into cars
>>154988635Jean goon
>>154989415All hitler needed was a hug and an acceptance letter
>>154988782Zuko was an asshole, but he wasn't needlessly cruel
>>154989415I mean that's why I think the "Brand New Day" title fits so well. It's also a brand new day for Jean, she learned what happened to her sister, and got the motivation to turn a new page and live life with less rage.Now it would be interesting to watch her facing the fact changing your ways isn't easy and struggle with the temptation to simply give in to her rage and abuse her powers once more. That is what makes this have so much potential.
>>154989415>>154989449Her development into hero is most likely going to be in whatever x-man movie she's going to be in
Marvel, you cant just make me care about two characters relationship, make them the focal point of the climax of your billion dollar film and not expect me to want more of them
>>154988782It was more lashing out then bullying.
>>154976470Based Nippon as always
>>154982310>>154982316>>154982649I never watched thunderbolts, can somebody explain the potato meme
>>154989540>We are the New Avengers (no one actually knows us), we deal with the big stuff like planetary treats and genocidal maniacs. (Pretend we are a big deal please)>You are small stuff (even though everyone knows you). You deal with small events like petty villains that threaten the streets (Even though you faced everyone from Bucky to Doctor Strange to Thanos)
>>154988996Guh-RRRRRRRRAPE the Spider-man! I love it!
>>154983842
>>154975467DEEPEST LORE
>>154988671>>154989415Peter really should have webbed that guy.Surely his Spider sense would have picked the car up
>>154989662>Peter really should have webbed that guy.yeah that scene was weird Peter really should have easily seen that coming even without his Spider Sense
>>154989477FUCK the mutants! I couldn't give less of a shit about the x-men!
>>154989367>X-Men 1: Jean joins the X-Men, becomes infatuated with Scott because he's cool and dependable and is there for her>X-Men 2: realizes Scott only cares about her as part of the mutant group>X-Men 3: Phoenix descends, X-Men being dickheads treat her like a menace because her destructive powers could be bad for the mutantkind image, Peter comes back into her life but with the symbiote. Jean saves him from the symbiote corruption, and he tries to save her but the inhibitor he builds in a hurry doesn't work on the phoenix force. Big fight where everyone is trying to contain the Phoenix but Jean dies in Peters arms and turns to ash>Spidey and Friends: Jean revives, retaining some fire powers, gives herself the Firestar name and joins Spidey's group of crime fighting friendsIt's never going to happen but I'd like that
>>154989436Hitler actually found mild success as a painter, what he needed was not have a shitty childhood and war PTSD
>>154989699Same desu, peter needs to save jean from going to that degenerate sex cult and getting into love triangles with canadian manlets and dudes that will cheat on her with another telepath
>>154989383This is only a thing because BENDIS had an unhealthy obsession with her underage butt.
>>154989760then he paired her with his self insert
>>154989571is this even true now? I havent watched thunderbolts, but do people remember spider-man's actions in endgame and such?
>>154989883True dat
>>154989883>>154989760Literally only because she was jewish
TO ME, MY X-MEN! KILL THE SPIDER-MAN NOW!!!
>>154989760Well, that's fair, can't judge Bendis too harshly on this one
potatoes
I want Jean to do something like this for Spidey. I guess it could happen in Secret Wars.
>>154981249Safe for him!
>>154990057>Regular Jean shows up to help Spidey against an onslaught of enemies>Symbiote Peter rescues Jean from several supervillains>The Phoenix emerges to protect Parker from something like Scarlet Witch/Dr. Strange
>>154990062Why is he just wearing jeans?... ohHeh
>>154990057BASED. I want this to happen in an Avengers film, right after they've properly developed Peter and Jean's relationship, having them face street tier villains over and over like the Purple Man, and with Jean developing her telekinesis to an acceptable rate.Peter facing a big bad like Doom or the Ultimate Evolutionary or Reed-1610 and giving his version of "I can do this all day" speech. Have him be flattened by the Big Bad and in the verge of death when he hears a "Don't give up" shout in his mind, only for Jean to appear, clad in flames as she stares at the big bad and prepares to whoop his ass alongside Peter.This shit writes itself!>>154990062Cute. Jean reading his mind and learning that Peter went to space and other dimensions before getting the burger.Also I'd much rather see her patrolling the city alongside Peter. She could be really useful with her telepathy to detect crimes and find evidence (also the drama when Jean starts policing thought-crimes).
>>154990062>>154990120I think this is supposed to be MJ 'cause there's a reddit post from 6 years ago asking who the artist is.
>>154990172Yeah, that one's MJ
>>154989288lmao, this is silly
Peter using the power of Mating Press to fix the Dark Phoenix.
>>154990255Bitch he was out saving the fucking city or the world for all you know! Not like he was going for a joyride or vacations. Why are women such selfish bitches? I hope Jean isn't like thisAnd I hope they get rid of MJ in the Spiderman franchise
>>154990291It was his turn to cook and he left after burning their dinner and saying he was going to get takeout and didn't come back home for the rest of the night,Meaning she went to bed hangry.
>nice guy x troubled girlI've seen this shit like three times by now yet I still love it every time
>>154990319I struggle with this one, I honestly don't like Invisibitch and no idea why. Prefer the fake blondie.There's something about Jean that is just different, feels closer to Natasha while Invisibitch feels more like Wanda.
>>154990312Okay that makes more sense.
Please please please let Secret Wars pair them up. Doesn't have to be romantic but a spark.
I want what they have!>>154990394I won't be satisfied until they get a very graphic sex scene where Jean leg locks Peter after mentally dominating him
the art this ship is getting has been phenomenal
>>154990490Any chance it makes its way back to Disney/Marvel and they decide to implement the ship?
>>154990490A shame it hasn't reflected in porn material being released. It's mostly sappy stuffI don't understand why some shows like Game of Thrones are very raunchy and get almost no porn made, while others like Wakfu or w.i.t.c.h./capes get tons of porn.Also deviantart went to shit the moment they allowed ai slop into their catalog. Now its impossible to browse
>>154990584Sadly, there's zero chance they'll implement it because they don't want to upset Zendaya and her mindless minions.
https://xcancel.com/hero13376/status/2087196417336992143
>>154989908Strange's spell only made everyone forget that Spider-Man is Peter Parker. Far as the public is concerned Spidey's been a NYC icon but literally no one knows who Peter Parker is anymore
>>154989296She'd probably find it a little similar to Peter's but ultimately wouldn't be able to relate in the way she did with Peter. She'd be experiencing his longing for a world that no longer exists and the people in it and would also see his self-sacrifice via him willing to wrap himself up in a grenade to protect his group or sinking a plane into frozen waters. While it would be similar, I think it's not something she'd be able to properly empathize with and she'd likely find his sense of justice and selflessness to be obnoxious over time.
>>154990451wearing camo and boots. what a NERD
>>154991053What about his attitude towards the Sokovia accords?
>>154991102That'd probably be the only bright spot she'd actually appreciate the most in Steve as he fought against the accords for the right of the avengers and other superhumans' autonomy.
>>154987805Haha such a cute sibling relationship.
>>154990451Jean is dressed up like Saejima from Yakuza lol
>>154989702>Spidey and Friends: Jean revives, retaining some fire powers, gives herself the Firestar name and joins Spidey's group of crime fighting friendsSo who is also with Spider-man and his amazing friend?
>>154991184The fat Chinese guy with his magic
>>154991157>Haha such a cute sibling relationship.I mean...given the Japanese treatment of sisters and love for incest...it kind of make sense they'd see Jean as Peter's little sister who he fingers from time to time and will marry in the future
>>154991190So Spider-man, Fire Star ALLA Jean Grey and THE MAN IN THE CHAIR or CEO of SEXAlso I thought he was like Filipino
>>154991204he's some SEA adjacent race
>>154991184Obviously we need to introduce Bobby and have him leave the X-Men with Jean. Sure it will lead to fujoslop and/or OT3 brainrot but we can't leave one of his amazing friends behind.
>>154991204>was like FilipinoSem Ting
>>154991244I choose to head canon Ned as Vietnamese then>>154991260>Obviously we need to introduce Bobby and have him leave the X-Men with JeanGot it>Sure it will lead to fujoslop and/or OT3 brainrot May those people never find out about the Spider-man Human Touch mini series>but we can't leave one of his amazing friends behind.Ye
>>154991297>May those people never find out about the Spider-man Human Touch mini seriesI checked out of curiosity and learned Human Torch was originally meant to be in the show, not Fire-Star. I shudder at the thought of what could have been.
>>154987736Proof?
>>154991297Didn't Johnny stay with Peter in ultimate Spider-Man? I recall him, Gwen and someone else staying together
>>154989151Ew
>>154975467bros, what's it like to have a chick, any chick, dig you?
>>154991423You say that but he got a smoking hot wife and can turn his penis into a living vibrating bad dragon dildo. Also he's rich and can live off his inventionsWhat can Spiderman do? Suffer
>>154991460Spider-Man has thick, sticky, loads.
>>154991430Not as fun as it sounds when you get stalked by chubby and ugly yandere. If only they all looked like Jean or Emma Stone, but ugly girls are a nightmare to deal with. More so if they're also loser neets with free time to ruin your life
>>154991368>Didn't Johnny stay with Peter in ultimate Spider-Man?First there was I think the "And his amazing friends" volume pre ultimatum where it was Spider-man, ice man, and fire star alla Liz Allen(it was for like one volume). Then after ultimatum it was Spider-man, Ice Man, and Johnny(along with kind of clone Gwen).I miss Ultimate Peter.
>>154991498i can see that but also i'm almost 30 and never been openly desired once in my life. my standards are pretty low by now
>>154991510I was thinking about the second one. Thanks.
>>154991297>I choose to head canon Ned as Vietnamese thenIt would make sense since banh mi is a Vietnamese sandwich.
>>154991460>What can Spiderman do?Make billions.
>>154991627>makes billions for the industry that's constantly and violently cucking him>is still a broke bitch
>>154990490I like to imagine Peter Parker hangs out with Jean outside of New York once a week. Treats her to dinner and pretends not to notice her bedroom eyes whenever he stays over at the house she's currently squatting in illegally. That is until she finally crashes out and begs him to be her first real experience otherwise she'll mentally explode making everyone extremely horny in a mile radius around her.
>>154991498>that pic>Jean's face when TRYING REALLY HARD to beam sexy thoughts into Peter's brain
>>154991547As someone who also didn't get into a stable relationship until his 30's, it's nice, but it's not as nice as you think. Having someone say they love is you good, sex is good, but none of it is good enough that you should beat yourself up for not having it.I love my GF but she didn't fix anything that was wrong with me. Just gave me some motivation to start fixing it myself.
>>154991674>makes billions for the industry that's constantly and violently cucking himNobody cares about the comics
>MCU jean's design is very easily anime-fied>spider-man is spider-man>enemies to lovers tropeI'm convinced it was entirely coincidental. There's no way they could've known the perfect formula to capture every east asian's heart
>>154986565If Jean use another person to take your virginity would she still be considered a virgin?
>could've lived in a timeline where this ship was a very real possibility and they would've been completely fine with following through this pairingfuck this gay earth. I hate that companies have to comply with deranged fans.It's even worse that they teased us with something so amazing in a short amount of time, only for them to not follow through it.I'll just drown myself in amazing art and fics. At the very least we have that.
>>154987747Do you pull this routine with the Milespics?
>>154991876Go ahead a look up what this director is working on now/after BND. There's probably a reason the Hand show up here and get the best action scene.
>>154989540It’s the analogy Yelena uses to wave away the Avengers not stepping in to help in the movie. She claims the situation is below her and that Peter has to figure it out on his own but does chime in with intel a coupe of timesOn the off chance you’re ESL “small potatoes” as an expression means an unimportant matter that is shoved off to the side for pressing issues
PERIOD CRAMP BEAM
>>154991709>that pic>Jean's face when TRYING REALLY HARD to beam sexy thoughts into Peter's brain>Peter wonders why he can't stop picturing Jean's body masturbating on a bed>thinks he must be a huge pervert>saves people around New York while sporting the hardest most visible boner of his life>gets called a pervert>Jameson publishes a tabloid about Spiderman: sexual menace>>154991547Heed this anon's advice >>154991731 , it can quickly turn into a nightmare. You've never had a fat stinky and ugly goblina following you around and stealing your stuff. And I'm not talking unkempt hot, I mean beggar missing teeth style ugly.>>154991690Guess he has no other choice but to sacrifice himself, for Jean's sake. That's what heroes do
>>154991876>the perfect formulaBack to formula?
>>154991690Will Jean exploding be like this?https://youtu.be/oV7tG2AJXJ8&t=45
Hey anime fans please explain the anime rival thing to me. The only anime I saw is dbz
>>154991674maybe Peter just isn't good with money
Can Jean actually read your thoughts or do she just kinda dive into your memories?If you were feeling horny about her, would she sense it through her telepathy?
>>154992541
>>154992552Im talking about the movie jean
>>154992160More to the point, it's a meme because Yelena, as someone played very ESL herself, says the New Avengers deal with "Big Potato Stuff," which is not actually something people say and so is a fun spin on "small potatoes." It was just an amusing line and since it turns out to be about Jean Grey, a fucking major X-Man character, there's a running gag to be had in comparing her to small potatoes.
>>154992541Jean gets all of your save data when she jumps into your mind, she was able to pretend to be MJ by reading her memories and she was instantly aware that May was Peter's aunt rather than his mother. So she knows everything you know once she inhabits your bodyThe movie doesn't make it clear if she can passively mind read or if she must dive into your brain to do it.
>>154992400I feel like Jean's shockwave would be a lot more violent and sudden than that, kinda like her bubble in the finale but everyone just busts instantly instead of freezing in place
>>154992433Characters that antagonize each other but have a lot of parallels and through conflict come to understand the other better. Also the "good guy" wants to save the "bad guy" from their inner darkness.
>>154992433We're going to use Naruto as our example because when people say "anime rival" they mean Naruto. DBZ has stuff like Vegeta and so on, but this particular dynamic being latched onto her is more like Naruto and Sasuke.In that manga, we're introduced to Naruto, a delinquent ninja who has a heart of gold. He has long disliked/been jealous of Sasuke, the cool popular ninja dude who always does everything better than him. However, the key part is they both have sad backstories, Sasuke in particular traumatized by his brother killing their parents, and their entire clan, when he was a kid (this will get stupid later but it need not detain us here).They are thrown together onto a team and eventually bond as they learn more about each other and their competitive nature manages to get them to break out of their shells more (Sasuke especially ends up getting wrapped up in Naruto's wake). Eventually Sasuke gets seduced by the dark side and the major emotional through arc of the rest of the manga is Naruto trying to get Sasuke to knock off his shit and come home.The details, as you can see, are very different, but it's been pointed out the core experience here is of a hero with troubles of his own being able to bond with a villain who can't be reached by anyone else because the hero knows what they're going through but is also enough of a big damned hero to put in the work to save the villain psychologically. And, more generally, the intense, aggressive emotions that tend to be involved in these dynamics are also a huge hot bed for shipping. Usually, cause it's a pair of dudes, it's fujo focused, but every so often someone will make a heterosexual pairing and it can get explosive. It's actually rare enough that I can't honestly think of one off the top of my head (Twin Star Exorcists is one, but unfortunately kind of chickens out on the more intense aspects of these cliches).
>>154992661>>154992433This. Anime always portrays rivals fighting as "I have to save you" like they're saving the other from becoming more evil. That is what Peter's doing at the end. If the entire climax sequence was an anime it would be completely standard for how this plays out.
>>154992613I hope its more of a mind dive thing, otherwise it'd be too boring.
Jean appeals to introverted misanthropes and im all for it
>>154992673Steven Universe also did the rivals to friends thing but poorly
>>154992541She directly mentions she doesn't need someone to tell her what she wants to know, so even very recent things are immediately open to her. But that's not quite what you're asking.The problem here is traditionally Jean, and other telepaths, are treated as mind readers by default, as if they can see or hear what someone is thinking as they think it. But in BND, until she "evolves," her powers are depicted as her jumping into a person and taking over whole cloth. She can then read all their memories, but as long as she's using her powers on you, "you're" not actually thinking at all. This is a pretty big plot point too, since it's how Spider-Man figures out Metzger was lying, since no one actually is thinking anything when the possession happens. There's not even a moment of it coming on them for anyone but Peter.I presume in the future, or perhaps now after her big outburst, she can develop enough fine control to kind of peak into a person's head instead of directly taking over. But for the movie, she "can't" read minds because her powers just shut you down while active.
Do you have any idea how amazing Jean would be as a final boss in a Spider-man video game? She can control the fucking environment and the in-battle dialogue would be dramatic stuff like>I can't let you do this >PEOPLE ARE MONSTERS>Jean it doesn't have to be this way>People like us don't get to be normal and it would win a trillion awards at game shows
>>154992673This is highkey interesting
>>154992347>>154992362Jean canonically cannot enter Peter's mind without his consent. She really, REALLY wants Peter to acknowledge her flirting but he doesn't so...she awkwardly stares at him at times hoping he leans in for a kiss. Also when they chill on the couch Jean curls up on his chest like a cat yet he STILL doesn't get that she wants him badly. Life is hard for a telepath when she can't beam her love directly into her crush's brain.
Emma is already supposed to be a dark reflection of Jean and that's difficult to pull off when this Jean is antagonistic by default. I wonder how they'll write her. Maybe they'll subvert it entirely and Emma is a positive-but-still-twisted take
>>154992769>battle of ideals>the final boss is literally the protagonist but decided to go on the dark path>in the end, it makes the player become undecided who is rightIt'd literally win the best story and cinematic for sure at least. It's not even that difficult to write something like that because the parallels are right there.
So from what im getting people prefer this movie's version of Jean better than the others
>>154990652>It's mostly sappy stuffProbably because the big moment for the ship is the "You have me" scene and that's read as such a sweet moment it makes the shippers lean a lot more romantic than horny.Raunchy shows already have sex and nudity and leave them in another headspace compared to shit that's just horny and suggestive. That's why you don't see much fanart of porn actresses or hentai of hentai franchises like Taimanin compared to, say, vtubers and gacha characters.
>>154992673Sasuke should've been a girl.
>>154985825No>>154986714More people used to know Firestar than Rocket Raccoon. You can put anyone in a movie now and normal fags will eat it up. Look at fucking Rivals. You got fucks pretending to like Cloak and Dagger. The Hood. I've seen Tokon fags pretend they know Danger.
>>154992888>You can put anyone in a movie now and normal fags will eat it up.They have to watch and like the movie first.
>>154992805I think there's room for parallelism. Especially if we meet an Emma who isn't on her redemption arc yet.>Jean is crude, aggressive, and impulsive in her pursuit of good>Emma is precise, tactical, and calculated in her pursuit of evilRefined cruelty vs unrefined kindness. Jean will call you a bitch while trying to save your life, Emma will flatter you and offer support while persuading you to kill for her.
>>154992673Jeanbros are character experts
>>154992844Jean usually doesn't leave much of an impression outside of "that girl Scott and Wolverine like"
>>154992760I like those limitations, would be fun to watch her practice and refine her abilities slowly.Would Peter let her have training rounds now since telepathy and mind control is an inherently "rapey" ability?
>>154992844She might end up becoming more popular than the original character like with Star Lord
>>154992899Who the fuck is Emma?
>>154992899Emma would just erase or change your memory if she does or says something embarrassing or wrong to keep her seeming perfect.
>>154992844I think she's just more exciting at the moment. We've gotten, good or bad, two versions of the most famous Jean stories and dynamics in movies. BND Jean is completely uncharted for most people and introduces a dynamic with another popular character that most people haven't even considered before. The movie then ends at the "beginning" of their "relationship," so it's very, very easy to start wondering what a future for the two of them might look like.Fanfic/Fanart/Fan discussion in general tends to be energized by possibility space. For the real autistic OC stuff, it's the ease of generating from a template. Hogwarts Houses, Troll Signs, Cutey Marks, Sonic Animals. But for characters, it tends to be relationships that are intense and dynamic but that aren't wrapped up or settled down. "What would it be like to see Jean and Peter interact daily in NY?" "What about when she joins the X-Men?" "Exactly how 'redeemed' is Jean now? Will she still be kind of a little shit?" All that stuff gets the brain juices churning more than something where you know how it goes.
Jean and Peter exhausted and lying on the ground next to each other after a Symbiote vs Phoenix battle would look so cool and epic
>>154992673Vidya but anime adjacent, there's Luminous Arc 2 and Stella Glow
>>154992947Emma Frost, Scott's other love interest.
>>154992958THIS BUT WITH JEAN PLWASE
>>154992844I like comic jean, this is just by far the best movie jean
>>154992956This is one of the reasons why I'm not attcged to MJ. Having different Peters get with different girls in these different adaptations is more interesting.
>>154992911>Jean trains by taking over Frank everytime he's antagonizing Peter by forcing him to do fortnite dances until he's fully aware that she's moving him around
>>154992795Poor Jean...no wonder she's willing to rape him. Knowing MCU Peter he might still forgive her.
>Jean rapidly approches Peter, getting a terrible feeling welling up within her chest>she sees him in such a broken state, pretty much at death's door>clutches him tightly, looks at the people who attacked him>her voice, very low, she stares at them blankly>"None of you. Will be allowed to live.">proceeds to turn everyone into mincemeat>she carries Peter him, bandaging him up and cries next to him on his chestPlease.
>>154993005Frank's not someone to trifle with, or she's gonna find a bullet round entering her skull. He already tried and almost did it if Peter didn't save her.She should try with Daredevil instead.
We are talking a lot about the fact that Peter and Jean are adaptation characters and therefore destined to move on to their designated official Marvel groups. Peter MUST go to MJ and Jean MUST go to Scott.... or... hear me outFriendly Neighborhood Spider-Man is based on the MCU, but who is Peter's love interest? Pearl Panang, aka Wave. A character who has literally never had anything to do with Spider-man and is associated with NAMOR.IN FACT MCU Peter has never met Harry and probably never will due to these movies not wanting to retread Raimi. His best friend is basically just Ganke.What they can do is experiment with his love life. They already broke the formula. They already showed Peter can be paired with non-spider-man-brand Girlfriends
>>154993067>Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man is based on the MCUIt is?
>>154993028>Why did you save me?>My body just... moved on its own!
>>154993028This but in an Avengers film, right as she unleashes the Phoenix force. That'd be the "Steve grabs Thor's hammer" moment in the new Avengers.>>154993024Peter should rape her instead, would only be fair reparation after what she did in BND. Bet she wouldn't even mind.
>>154992979Huh couldn't identify her, too used to blonde Emma.
>>154993083At one point in development it was supposed to be what MCU Spider-Man was doing as a vigilante before Tony recruited him in Civil War, but it broke away from that concept pretty quick.
>>154993083Look at MayFriendly Neighborhood is trying to be a reshuffled version of the MCU. >>154993028If Marvel is smart they will be the main characters of the MCU
>>154993111>Huh couldn't identify her, too used to blonde Emma?
I don't have an issue with Zendaya, she was good in The Drama and her outfits on the NWH press tour were nice.
Pearl feels like a distraction love interest like Liz normally is. She's a foot taller than Peter and is in love with Tombstone. Friendly Neighborhood should give Peter his Jean so we can have a universe where they get together
>>154976470>I can't even look him in the eye What's he thinking about to have her so flustered
>>154993135I am too used to this one and assumed she would be too old to appear in new movies.https://youtu.be/gOYGpf385qI
>>154993176I would think it's because of their last interaction. Jean didn't know what to say to him
Jean was pretty boring in the movie, I don't feel this ship as much as Yelena and Bob.
>>154982048You're forgetting ironman where she was traipsing around in a pushup bra and secretary outfit before being revealed as black widow to blow Ironmans mind. They then proceeded to do nothing interesting with her for another 46 movies.
>>154987805I mean every other manga he's written ended with the male and female leads fucking at the end complete with kids so most people assume that he's either fucking with everyone or there's some weird mandate to try and whore out more merch to Otakus that he's stuck with.
>>154993143Taking a break from shipping shit, she's been good for the role in all of the movies. People talk about girl boss, but she's mostly just snide to people. For what MJ is meant to be in this movie, it was a good job. People might forget, but telepathy isn't real. That scene where Jean is fucking with Peter through her IS Zendaya acting as Jean. Everything you felt in that seen was something Zendaya pulled off, except for the bits where Holland was acting Peter getting broken.The real problem is that while the characters have obvious in the moment chemistry, the movies have done little with the actual relationship beyond those fleeting of emotional connection. She was a bit character in Homecoming. She's more present in FFH, but there's not an actual relationship there. In NWH most of the movie is dominated by the plot. It's not until this one where we get any real conflict or look at what a Peter/MJ in this setting would look like and she explicitly says she can't love him because she's not the same person who fell in love with him. Nor is the potential of what we've seen as fresh and exciting as Jean is, where everyone imagines she'd just be doing what Zendaya MJ would be doing with Peter anyway, but with angst and mind powers.
>>154993258Zendaya is plain ugly, and Jean is hot and has more potential since she can actually help Peter and get into the action because of her abilities.Raimi's movies were the same, Mary Jane's drama was a slog to go through and didn't progress Spiderman's plot at all.
>>154992898>They have to watch and like the movie first.Yeah and given that it's a spidey movie people will watch it. You can have any character guest star here
It's not just the ship to me too (even though it is great and beautiful) but I genuinely dislike the narrative concept of Zendaya getting back together with Peter after explaining that she simply does not feel love for him. If she falls for him after that it makes her feel like a trophy
>>154993067The problem is that Jean is kind of a major, core X-Men character and her relationship with Cyclops is kind of a major part of their characters. As much as I like MCU Peter and Jean as a pair, I don't see them becoming a couple. I can't imagine Marvel taking Jean out of the X-Men to stick her with Spidey due to studio bullshit.
Peter and Jean is the kind of couple that only works as an epilogue, like Steve and Natasha. Their dynamic would lose spice if they actually started dating so you need to skip until after all of their adventures are over
So, which next thread are we using? I kind of don't want to use the pseudo-porn thread.
>>154993528>>154993551>>154993551>>154993551
>>154993352>has more potential since she can actually help Peter and get into the action because of her abilities.While I understand why people, specially in the context of the movies, might want a superhero love interest for Spider-Man. The only reason why a civilian girlfriend feels useless is purely due to shitty writers. Not every superhero girlfriend has to have some special skill or power. Sometimes just having a place to go back to is enough.
>>154988663An exposed nape is highly erotic.
>>154993861Not if you want an interesting dynamic. May be enough for the character but compared to someone who goes and do stuff, Jean is better
