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It was always meant to be.
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Can't even save his own wife, baka.
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>>154993551
. . . Did Charles just . . . ?
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The art for this ship is truly cute
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>>154993551
Where is this from? What's the context?
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>>154993605
Marvel Team-Up #4

>Spider-Man unexpectedly kisses Jean Grey as a way of thanking her after the X-Men help him defeat Morbius the Living Vampire.
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>>154993577
can he even get a cuck chub with his spine situation?
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They just...work really well together!
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>>154993551
Here. Somebody insert CyKrillin in the blank space, please.
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First MCU ship with its own official theme song
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>>154993619
>Morbius
Sorry what
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>>154993644
I want Jean's cute feet on my face
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>>154993650
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[Verse 1]
I understood loneliness
And understood what love is
Making use of my five senses
I will save you
Which means I will also save myself
In the end we are
Both humans

[Chorus]
Going beyond "I love you"
So I guess I'm not alone anymore
If I'm up-beat
The darkness will lift
Ah, while hold your words close to my heart, yeah

[Interlude]
(Going beyond I love you)
(So I guess I'm not alone anymore)
(If I'm up-beat, the darkness will lift)

[Verse 2]
When the wound in my chest begins to hurt
What do I sacrifice, and what do I save?
Everything is perhaps inevitable
My justice is here
You might also like
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Brand New
Mrs. GREEN APPLE
oh yeah?
Steve Lacy
[Verse 3]
I breathe and I'm aware
The intense pain of living has meaning
I believe at the same time, I face a helplessness that I battle every day

[Chorus]
I try to surprise myself
I just try to update myself
Singin' in the rain and swingin' in the rain
Ah, while holding your words close to my heart

[Bridge]
Coccoons surround people's dreams
I shake hands with hope
I take another good look in the mirror
It's a brand new me

[Chorus]
Going beyond "I love you"
So I guess I'm not alone anymore
If I'm up-beat, the darkness will lift
Ah, while holding your words close to my heart

[Post-Chorus]
I try to suprise myself
I just try to update myself
Singin' in the rain and swinging
Ah, while holding your words close to my heart
[Outro]
Going beyond "I love you", ooh
So I guess I'm not alone anymore
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Jean Grey is every introverted misanthrope's ideal companion
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>>154993551
As long as muttdaya is alive, no white woman will kiss Spidercuck
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>>154993551
In your fucking dreams Spider-KWAB
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I feel like you guys are underestimating how crazy MCU Jean is. She will blast anyone who inconveniences her
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>>154993779
Spider-babies will mellow her out.
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>ship discussion hit bump limit at least five times
MCU finally has its own Reylo
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>>154993694
Anon, he's a classic Spider-Man villain who other heroes occasionally fight.
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>>154993779
I want a hobo crazy GF
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>>154993694
He's a pretty classic spider-man villain. In this edition he poisons spider-man and kidnaps a professor (who Xavier knows) and spidey gets blamed. Xavier sends the x-men to just capture spidey alive to figure this situation out. After kicking ass, Jean stops Spidey and he blacks out cause he's sick. After that the x-men go save the professor, kick Morbius's ass, and save Spidey who then kisses Jean as thanks.
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>another thread hit bump limit
Please keep archiving the threads! I have the ones that reached bump limit here:
From oldest (top) from the newest (bottom):
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154877621
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154893227
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154898929
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154916242
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154933242
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154946039
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154951260
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154956043
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154970202
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154968194
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154975467

I love you anons. Keep making great ideas.
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>>154993828
>>154993867
Yeah I know I just remembered that awful movie
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>>154993779
That sentence alone just gave me the hardest erection. I hope they keep her like that, as she struggles with the temptation to just flatten everyone who stands in her way.
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>>154993887
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>>154993903
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>>154993577
Didn't Xavier want to fuck Jean?
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>>154993916
I want a psycho hobo telepathic yandere girlfriend!
>>154993837
>I want a hobo crazy GF
>hoodrat Jean without a proper bath
IMAGINE THE SMELL! Ponder the aroma!
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>>154993922
he had a thought and killed it, hasnt come back since. it was very early on
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>>154993922
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>>154993922
>>154993956
Are all old X-Men comics this crazy
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>>154993975
she was the only girl in the x-men at the time so everyone was just in love with her
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>>154993995
Can't she just learn answers by reading minds.
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>>154994018
Peter is trying to teach her to be good and not cheat.
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>>154994018
Why do you want Jean to constantly mindrape people so badly? Why can't she simply do things herself the proper way?
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>>154993903
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l6yD-ZBYDI
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Peter should pump as many babies into Jean as humanly possible. At this point I would rather have a Peter x Jean son OC take over as Spider-man in the MCU than see Miles
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>MJ forcing Peter and Jean to confess to each other because she's actually aware they're both beating around the bush and sick of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC0bZYNRpHI

>dub
(i know, it's hard to find the correct scenes)
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>>154994048
According to an interview Kishimoto based them around Taiga and Natsu, if so it makes sense since to the japs this is a totally normal and not-sexual.
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>>154993551
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If you had to pick a direction for Spiderman's involvement in the MCU's X-men stories which would you prefer?
>Spiderman is an ally to the X-men due to his history with Jean and being a good guy. This causes the general public to turn against Spiderman, maybe even making them believe he's a mutant too. They can play up Spidey forgiving Jean's crimes.
>The X-men hate Spiderman for inventing the inhibitors maybe the Sentinels get tied to him too if they're based on Stark tech and are in constant conflict with him. This causes the general public to turn against mutants even more since they love Spiderman, and Jean is caught in the middle.
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>>154994042
Well being able to instantly learn a skill by reading minds is just too convenient
>>154994037
But I guess spending more time with Peter is a good excuse not to use it.
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>>154993551
Spider-Man is Highly satanic because it supports the act of cuckoldarianism
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So given the nature of the MCU and the issues that rise from live action, eventually Peter's gonna have to retire. Holland can't play this character forever, so Peter's gonna have to die to get booted off into another universe never to be seen again, something along those lines.

So I think Peter's end should coincide with the end of the Phoenix Saga, where Jean becomes the Phoenix and eventually dies as he tends to do, but Peter's with her in her final moments and they both explode/get sent to another universe and can never return or something.
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/co/ has been so fun this last week, and it's all thanks to this ship.
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>>154994091
Not to mention the way the Japs think about "brother and sister"
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>>154994215
>Holland can't play this character forever
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>>154994091
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>>154994253
They really hit jackpot with Hugh Jackman back then huh
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>>154994295
Nice work!
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>>154994215
You're not thinking like a soulless studio exec here's what they'll actually do:
>Milk Tom Holland for all he's worth until he decides to move on with his life
>Try to pass the torch to Miles and have him take over as the new main MCU Spiderman
>Panic when that's only a mild/moderate success instead of a guaranteed 1+ billion megahit like Peter Spiderman
>Panic harder and beg Tom Holland to come back with dumptrucks of cash, but he's way to old/disinterested at this point
>Eventually just reboot everything with a new actor playing Peter like they always do
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Peter's immunity to Jean's powers means she has to learn social interaction the old fashioned way. Even in the end of the movie she wasn't able to fully possess him
Notice that Peter physically reacted to Frank about to shoot and ejected Jean from his mind. If she could infiltrate him then she would have seen the bullet coming too
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>>154994071
>Jean can't send her love or her sexy thoughts directly into Peter's brain
>this is infuriating for her since she's so used to the easy way of getting people to do what she wants
>has to seduce him the old fashioned way
>it never works because he doesn't consider cuddling or a small kiss enough to mentally register himself as her boyfriend
>has to beg him to touch her beyond hugs and innocent kisses
Poor Jean.
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>>154994306
>>Try to pass the torch to Miles and have him take over as the new main MCU Spiderman
I remember seeing something about this already being planned for the far future, and like you already said it'll inevitably fail or just not meet expectations leading to them freaking out. They should either just reboot everything with a new actor portraying Peter or say fuck it and have Peter's kid be the new Spider-Man/Spider-Girl.
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Kind of insane how this ship blew up in the internet. Do you guys think it'd lead to any consequences like some rogue Marvel writer getting inspired to write an elseworld comic where these two are a thing?
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>>154994296
Unbelievably so. Though it also led to a lot of Wolverine wank (not that there wasn't before, but it worse).
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tags and comments on the first actual sex drawing of these two in their MCU versions

https://files.catbox.moe/qpd6fu.jpg
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>>154994407
Nope. Zendaya is bigger than Jean grey and she wont allow her boyfriend to have another love interest. Tom holland woudn't allow it either.
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>>154994407
I'm really annoyed that Friendly Neighborhood decided to make fucking WAVE Peter's love interest but if we're lucky she's just a distraction love interest.
The good thing is that she is proof that Spider-man cartoons are allowed to completely change who Peter's in love with to a completely different character so MAYBE we might get something with Jean some day

BND is literally the most successful Spider-man movie after all. It would be smart to capitalize on its social impact
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>>154994407
It will lead to nothing except Peter continuing to get humiliated for the Nth time
You'll get a nostalgiabait team-up with them where Jean will explicitly spell out on paper that she's married to Scott Summers and that's it
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>>154994295
Awesome!
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>>154994407
>some rogue Marvel writer getting inspired to write an elseworld comic where these two are a thing?
It's possible. As for the MCU I doubt we'll see anything unless God Emperor Feige believes it'll rake in some cash and confidence in the brand.
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>>154994475
I'd become a lifelong MCU fanboy if Feige actually does it, and you anons better too
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>>154994407
We may just get a team-up comic or something. They made a Punisher/SM/Hulk before the movie came out
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>>154994504
I'd take it
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>>154994071
Agreed. Hell, it would fit with Krakoa's laws too.
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>>154994521
Retard Krakoa has been gone for years now
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>>154994494
>it's canon Yelena looked up porn of Spider-Man being gangbanged by Mysterio
I still can't believe it.
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I don't know if anyone posted this, but in Marvel Rivals Peter directly compares the Symbiote to the Phoenix Force

https://youtu.be/ogVaui0QaFA?si=pwYNq7iRP-EnknPX&t=523
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>>154994494
bob bros...............
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>>154994421
Jean's inclusion in BND did remind me of her Armored Adventures role
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>>154994548
But I will still clown on it because it is that dumb. Right next to Mystique's and Destiny's wedding, with guest list full of their past victims and with Nightcrawler, her son who she abandoned by throwing off a cliff, being the priest.
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>>154994559
>enigma force
whoops my bad guys, wrong alien force
weird that it happened twice
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>>154994504
>>154994519
The comic for reference
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>>154994581
>But I will still clown on it because I am unable to move on
FTFY
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>>154994421
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>>154994581
I wish you hadn' reminded me of that
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Jean and Peter after living together for a few months of built up sexual tension
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>>154994594
I will move on when the comics move on, aka never. Krakoa happened and basically ruined the X-Men for me.
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>>154994521
>After years of being a non-issue, how are there suddenly enough mutants in the MCU to be the focus of the next saga?
>Turns out jean and peter have just been singlehandedly spiking the population with nonstop breeding sessions
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This ship reminds me of Shirou and Sakura.


But better.
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>2022: "AIIIIEEEEE WHY IS JEAN GREY'S CLONE GETTING REDEEMED AND OUR BRO BEN STILL REMAINING A VILLAIN??? FUCK X-FAGS AND FUCK X-BOOKS"
>2026: "WOOOW MOMMY JEAN GREY PLEASE MARVEL MAKE THEM A COUPLE AND GIVE THEM A TEAM-UP COMIC! DROP MARYWHORE NOW!"
Yeah, no. Spider-Fags should just be permanently renamed to Spider-Cattle at this point.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_h0z8ixarY
Imagine if Peter lost his memories, Jean wouldn't be able to fix him. That would be so sad.
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>>154994609
They wouldn't live together. Peter would visit her house she earned by squatting in it (this an actual legal thing look it up) about once a week. He'd take her out to lunch or dinner or both. Jean after five meetings would declare them all dates and that makes Peter her boyfriend. Peter said she has him, so Jean will take full advantage of that declaration.
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>>154994673
goomba fallacy
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>>154994494
Best defense against telepaths. Probably taught to Yelena in the Red Room
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>>154994639
Would they be good parents though?
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>>154994673
>2024 why the fuck are the rumors saying Jean Grey is the villain for the next spider-man movie?
>2026 if Jean isn't in the next Spider-man movie I don't fucking want it
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So why IS Peter immune to Jean's powers?
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the mcu has created a situation where people would rather have peter date rapist jean grey over alt girl mj
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>>154994650
I personally do not like Sakura, but I was thinking the same thing:
>from the moment they met, Peter saw her taking over people's bodies left and right
>endangered hundreds of civilians in the process as well
>took over his ex and pretended it was her to trick him into kissing her
>proceeded to kill her too
>held millions of civilians hostage
>despite all that, Peter still wanted to save her
>allowed her into his mind with his FULL consent
>took a bullet for her with no hesitation
He is unironically crazy.
Genuinely, Peter pulled an Emiya Shirou in this movie.
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>>154994732
Jean is just a more interesting character. I think that goes really far. Their interactions become a lot more complex as a result, and that just makes things more engaging.
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>>154994726
Spider-Sense. Same way he was able to take on Dr. Strange and be immune to his mind push thing.
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>>154994581
>Nightcrawler, her son who she abandoned by throwing off a cliff, being the priest.
To be fair, Nightcrawler is way too much of a nice guy, he's almost saint-like in his ability to forgive.
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>>154994756
I mean it KINDA made sense with Strange, because his body was just independently reacting to Strange's actions. But what's going on here? Are his brain cells interacting to her telepathy? Are his brain cells, like, dodging her attempts to read and control them?
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>>154994726
He's just mentally stronger than the average new yorker I mean have you seen what he deals with on the daily
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>>154994732
This is alt girl MJ. Zendaya is not playing an alt girl, she is just playing a generic and boring snarky smart girl.
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>>154994650
>fiery redhead that thinks she's a hotshot but deep down she's an emotional atom bomb about to go off
>downtrodden dark haired guy who is kind to everyone but considers their admiration superficial so he suffers in silence
>at first they're hostile towards each other but at the end of the narrative they mind meld
>they realize they're both lonely, broken people and the ending suggests their mutual understanding might make them better in the long run
I can think of another anime pair like this.
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>>154994772
>Are his brain cells, like, dodging her attempts to read and control them?

Maybe. Also keep in mind he is less resistant to it once Jean's power grows and she even notes this. So his spider-sense gives him some reactionary resistance on a cellular level but its not 100% resistant.
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>>154994790
>end of MCU
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>>154994740
Glad I am not the only one. I don't like Sakura either–I'm more of a Kohakufag–but Jean makes this dynamic work better because she has far more personal agency than her.
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>>154994143
>Spider-Man is beloved by the general public, and due to the lack of understanding on who he is or how his powers work, he's actually used as a symbol for how Mutants are good for the world despite being actually being a Mutate
>However, because he invented the Inhibitor chip, which was adapted into the EM-resistant Inhibitor Collar, and because be isn't really one of them, he's despised by the X-Men and Brotherhood to the point of being Kill on Sight for some mutants
>Cyclops loathes him, both for the above reason and because he secretly resents how he's seen as the face of the goodness of mutantkind (a title he believes he has earned) despite not being one of them
>Jean admires and respects and maybe loves Peter because of his heroism and kindness in the face of suffering
>Cyclops falls in love with Jean for her resilience and unshakeable goodness, not realizing that she learned both of those things from Peter. His affection for her (and her seeming obsession with defending Spider-Man) causes his hatred for Spidey to fester
>The next time they meet, a scuffle breaks out, with it seeming like Peter is working with the government on the inhibitor collars (when in reality he's broken in attempting to sabotage them to make up for his mistake)
>Scott's rage fuels his power, creating an optic blast potent enough to bring the whole building down
>Peter pushes him aside, holding up the entire facility to make time for the X-Men to escape at the cost of his own life
>Jean rushes there as she feels Peter's mental signature and very life force snuff out, finding his corpse standing there, still holding up the building even in death
>She finally awakens the Phoenix as she cradles his lifeless body in her arms with a burning hatred for the X-Men and an oath to never leave his side again
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>>154994650
>>154994740
"Let's go home, Sakura" and "You have me" have the same energy
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>>154993551
Everybody wants to bang Jean
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Im surprised they showed some restraint with Jean's reveal, which is rare for Marvel. I feel like, had this movie come out a few years ago, we would have gotten the 90s X-Men theme play when they reveal her name (like how they included it in the Ms. Marvel show and DS 2) and mentioned mutants, Phoenix force or something when she was being studied and her powers started to evolve and go crazy.
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So Peter and MJ aren't even in doomsdsy? What a tragic waste. I don't care about Doom Tony and MCU cap should be over now
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>>154994851
Did that game ever updated or do we still need to get the mods for it?
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>>154994860
They are in Secret Wars at least
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>>154994860
Apparently Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man will be in Doomsday? Pretty weird if you ask me.
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>>154994650
Fuck this is so good. I love Jean x Peter and now I need to play whatever this game is!
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>>154994858
I actually like how Jean isn't immediately played up as an important figure in the mcu. Just an over powered street rat
They don't read her name out dramatically like Young Justice did with Kara Zor-El
They don't make her species a big deal and explain it. Hell if you don't already know her character you would think she's like Peter since they both use similar "mutating" terminology on this movie
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>>154994867
It got updated a few weeks ago, has 12 different girls now
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>>154994873
If doomsday is doing the battle world story or starting it then its a cinematic reset and he's gon die.
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>>154994609
sauce?
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>>154994884
It's called Fate/Stay Night and it's a pretty good visual novel, if you aren't afraid to spend 60-80 hours reading then go ahead anon. Although you will have to read through 2 routes to get to Sakura's.
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>>154994851
What game is this
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I feel like this movie just kinda showcases that Michelle isn't all that interesting a character and it is infinitely better for the characters' relationships if the both of them have an engaging story arc that intertwines with one another.
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>>154994946
Rogue-Like: Evolution
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>>154994884
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>>154994952
It's because MCU MJ barely has any character, and Zendaya's poor acting doesn't help it either.
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>>154994922
Yoasobi Gurashi
It's an anime about a guy who's roommate is a chronic masturbator, but she's also a tsundere so she isn't into him at first but as the days go by they become fuckbuddies and then lovers
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>>154994650
I'm glad I'm not the only one who was thinking it
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>>154994952
I thought it was a pretty interesting character beat to have her be able to articulate why it was morally wrong to just leave her in the dark for 5 years basically turning her into a different person against her will.
In a way it reflects what Jean is able to temporarily to do people. Michelle is more annoyed at what Peter did than what Jean did and that's primarily because she had an entirely different life before and Peter had the opportunity to give that life back to her and he didn't take it
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>>154993551
I'm so normal about Peter and Jean, so sane.
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>>154994650
>>154994740
They do share similarities but the difference is that Jean deserved to be saved and Peter wasn't thinking with his dick.
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>>154994851
Emma and Storm are the best girl in there. The later additions like SG just suck with the exception of Wanda
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>>154994556
What?
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>>154995032
Its in the movie during the bath. Ugly widow brings up the spiderman porn.
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>>154994851
>in this game
MCU Jean is the only Jean that could be called pure.
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https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=jean_grey+&z=5
At this rate Japan sees Jean as a Spider-man character
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>>154993735
>You might also like
>Mrs. GREEN APPLE - Brand New (Romanized)
>Genius Romanizations
>Brand New
>Mrs. GREEN APPLE
>oh yeah?
>Steve Lacy
We gotta fix this copypaste next thread
>>154994324
>Peter's immunity to Jean's powers means she has to learn social interaction the old fashioned way.
Her first course of action was break into his apartment and pretend to be his ex for shits and giggles.
She's going to have a hard time figuring how to do that, which is why I think she's going to "Sixth Ranger" the X-Men for a little while before effectively joining them proper.
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>>154994851
>>154995053
exactly
MCU Jean does bad things because she was never given a chance in her life by humanity.
Comic Jean does bad things because she gets in bad moods and has no self control

MCU Jean basically thought she was living in a world of villains. She said it herself, people are monsters and you can't trust them. Peter was probably the first mind she ever read that actually felt comforting and safe
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>>154995027
>Jean deserved to be saved and Peter wasn't thinking with his dick.
Absolutely this. Peter wanted to save her because he knows what its like to lose everything. He was being genuine about it. And Sakura... is Sakura. Shirou just lusted for her and it didn't really feel that love strong.
Unironically, Peter > Shirou
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>>154994884
Shirou is basically just Peter if he was bitten by a radioactive sword
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>>154995027
There is no way Jean hadn't killed any people with her insane antics in the first half of the movie, and the way she mentally tortured Peter in MJ's body–who she also almost killed by throwing her off the roof–didn't look good either. Jean isn't as big of a monster as HF Sakura but she isn't far behind.
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>>154995054
the only live action version ever worth making any fan art of is a spiderman character
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>>154995027
Also, Shirou wasn't thinking with his dick, he genuinely loved Sakura enough to sacrifice his ideals and himself
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>>154995054
And that's the best for everybody involved including, the X-men.
Which means it won't happen
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>>154994707
Yes. May Day and Cable are Peter’s and Jean’s kids.
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Alright, I understood the Naruto comparisons but I guess I'm going to have to watch the Fate/Stay movie to get a heterosexual take on this dynamic

I am too much of a pussy to watch Tokyo Ghoul
I think Generator Rex also has this kind of thing going on
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>>154995054
>literally every Japanese artists thinks Jean is Spider-man's love interest
this is going to have consequences
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>>154995169
NOOOOO READ THE VN
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>>154995084
The biggest problem with Sakura and Shirou in Heaven's Feel is that the first two routes did a very poor job setting up their relationship. Shirou has spent by far the most time with Sakura compared to the other two, and it makes sense logically that he would go that far for her, but we barely interact with her in Fate/UBW so it's hard for us to relate. It creates an unfortunate disconnect between the character and the audience since he has so much history with her we didn't get to experience. It took until Prisma Illya for me to finally get it since Oath Under the Snow is just a much better version of Heaven's Feel
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Haven't seen the movie yet. Is Spider-Man still affiliated with the Avengers? Also how did Peter deal with the complete erasure of his civilian identity? What's the process for that?
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https://www.pixiv.net/en/tags/%E3%82%B8%E3%83%BC%E3%83%B3%E3%83%BB%E3%82%B0%E3%83%AC%E3%82%A4/artworks


>her name is re-localized as Jin Gurai
kek
Anyways yes as soon as the movie drops Japanese art sites treat her exclusively as a Spider-man character with all of the art from before that point being art of the cartoons probably drawn by people who saw the japanese dubs growing up
I guess nobody in Japan cared about the Fox versions of Jean or the comics except a handful of westaboos
MCU Jean IS the Jean of Japan
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>>154995169
>I am too much of a pussy to watch Tokyo Ghoul
That anime is a shitshow for an adaptation and censored to hell.
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>>154995169
>too much of a pussy to watch Tokyo Ghoul
>watch
oh buddy you do not want to watch it. its fucking terrible beyond the first season (they butchered the story completely) and i dont even trust that. Read it.

>>154995221
He's in touch with the new avengers, the second part isnt really touched on. The actual avengers dont come up.
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>>154995221
The OG Avengers are still technically disbanded, Peter is in contact with (but not a member) of the New Avengers/Thunderbolts. There's no mention of Peter coping with no civvie identity, but there's also no reference to him having a job or attending school or anything that he'd need a functional ID for.
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I can't believe I am talking about Fate/Stay Night on a completely unrelated board for the 4th time.
>>154995201
It didn't help that Nasu combined 2 routes into one which led to a fucking mess that is HF, it's still kino but the disconnect is very palpable
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>>154995221
No he’s not. No one recognizes him. It’s heavy on lonely exposition, but I guarantee you that it’s beautifully filmed. As cliché as it sounds, it makes you FEEL like your spider-man, especially if you’re a young single guy. It’s hard not to root for him. He’s loveless, friendless, and broke, but he’ll never give up.
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Jean's Japanese voice actor isn't mentioned on the japanese dub wiki. I wonder who they got for her

Japanese dub Peter is voiced by Junya Enoki, who you may know as Yuji from JJK
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If you try to watch the MCU spider-man movies in sequence the first and the last one have such an aggressive tonal shift.
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>>154994673
>Then: Wow Xmen first class still fucking sucks
>Now: so you be sayin Jean Grey is a pretty teenage redhead yandere who just needs someone (and that someone is spiderman)
Somehow one was received better than the other, truly we'll never know why.
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Why did she do it?
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>>154995434
Jean is so violent that her fans will defend this behavior by saying "at least she didn't kill him"
At a minimum she broke that guys knees for shits and giggles to taunt the most beloved hero in the world.
She's going to need so much correction.
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>>154995434
She wanted to look cool/menacing.
There was no practical reason for her to pose like that in the apartment itself.
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>>154995465
>She's going to need so much correction.
Then Peter is fit for the job then.
Question is, how will he correct Jean to make sure she is good?
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>>154994915
>then its a cinematic reset and he's gon die.
What like reset the MCU? Wouldn't that mean everything that happened in this movie (and the entire MCU up to this point) didn't really matter?
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>Jean stop killing innocent bystanders
>Make me
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>>154994740
No wonder the Japanese love this pairing so much.
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>>154995465
>>154995496
>>154995499
If Peter was morally grey
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>>154995544
In Japan, female rivals always always always fall for the lead male.
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>>154995498
>he says this on a board dedicated to comic books
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>>154995498
Continuity reboots are just an excuse to fast forward or clean up the continuity without having to explain it in universe
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>>154995434
I fucking love it, violent and ruthless characters who will flatten anyone in their way make me hard like little else.
We need more despicable characters who relish their own sociopathy and I'm tired of pretending we don't
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>when Peter says no to mind possession during sex
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>>154995434
Because she's being a bad person here. The online discourse for this has been so frustrating, with everyone either saying she's irredeemable or defending her no matter what. It's like the concept of her starting off doing bad things for justifiable(to her at least) reasons and learning to be better over time, including showing more growth and her struggling with morality in future appearances, is completely lost to them. Have they never heard of character arcs and need all their heroes to be squeaky clean right from the start?
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>>154995434
So fucking evil, jesus fuck Im diamonds
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>>154995434
This is literally the same energy as MajinnVegeta blowing up a crowd of civilians to prove he isn't fucking around
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>>154993551
>Hourly reminder someone's watched Brand New Day
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>>154995496
>>154995499
>Question is, how will he correct Jean to make sure she is good?
Not only did Jean kill bystanders to prove a point or out of grief, she also raped Peter and MJ just to psychologically torture him. It's only fair that Peter has to rape Jean in return
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>>154995292
kek
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>>154995434
>>154995622
This scene tied directly into her breakdown so each at the end.
Are you Peter Parker or are you Spider-Man?
Jean has decided that she has to be her Power. She has to be the force of nature that destroys everything. Humanity didn't give her a chance so why should she give them a chance. The government killed her sister. The only connection she had to decency was kidnapped from her. She is very much thinking with Loki's mindset here
Boots don't have a "quarrel" with ants. They just disregard their lives. People are monsters.

"Why would a man who's half spider side with an organization that hunts down anyone who's different"
She thinks Peter is protecting monsters.
Jean is being a bad guy here, make no mistake, but her entire morality is already warped
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>>154995664
>Jean tying her hair back, hair tie in mouth, giving Peter the “fuck me” eyes, and getting ready for another round
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I thought it was interesting that at the end of the movie Jean reads Peters mind as a dominance display. She didn't have much to gain from doing it at that point
The movie didn't clarify what she was planning to do to him. She just threatened that she could get inside his brain now and then he told her to do it. I think she was probably planning on sniffing for information to hurt him for not knowing his place. I think she was also doing it to prove "You are not safe from me, I can get in your head now"
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>>154995434
I really hope they don't ruin this character by pretending she was never ruthless
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>>154993577
COOMED
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>>154995622
People forget that Jean has to be a problem for Peter to solve and that's how movies work
And that throwing her in jail or giving her up to damage control are not solutions. She needed to be talked down. She needed to learn the lesson Peter learned.
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>>154994407
Maybe. Maybe not. Even though I would love it if they did end up together, I would still absolutely love it if they were quasi-siblings. Jean lost her sister, Peter lost his aunt (and I guess Ben) and Frank lost his wife and children. A found family is nothing new to the MCU but it's still pleasant, though admittedly they'll have to skirt through Frank and Jean's penchant for violence and Jean's attempts to fuck Peter's life. Maybe we will get an elseworld. I have almost no faith that it will be canon, despite the fact that many of the phase one heroes have had to deal with shake ups in their love lives; Stephen had his love interest marry another man, Peter Quill's in a similar boat to Peter Parker, Thor's love interest is dead. But Tomdaya are professionals and both have been roles where they've been in other relationships; Dune certainly springs to mind for Zendaya. It's just I can't help feel like they'll break the spell, Michelle will get back with Peter and nobody will have moved on. NWH's ending will have had no consequences aside from May's death. Maybe it's just my pessimism, maybe I can smell the psychosphere. I'd like to be proven wrong. I just hope that Peter and Jean continue to be close. They've knocked it out of the park and making her the deuteragonist was genius.
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>>154995184
Hopefully good ones.
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>>154993710
Cute!!!
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I was looking at a lot of cyclops vs spider-man discussion, but realistically what stops Peter from doing this to Scott?
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this would be funny ngl
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I like that Jean was doing everything in her power to communicate to Peter that interfering with her is a painful experience
>I will make people walk into traffic
>I will drop people off of roofs
>I will dress down your entire life
>Even if I can't get in your brain, I can get in your mouth. Fuck off

Little does she know, he doesn't quit
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>>154995807
The 2000s cartoons and movies and comics destroy d Scotts reputation. X Men Evolution was the only thing that portrayed him positively.
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>>154995729
>Jean tying her hair back,
Also known as the "blowjob hairstyle" or the "pull my hair as you fuck me" style.
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>>154995496
Finger but hole

Like you do to make sure a dog never tries to bite again.
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>>154995735
She feels like the type of woman that wouldn't know what to do once she could finally get into Peter's brain kek
Though if they really wanted to play the villain angle, she could wipe it or leave him catatonic I guess.
>>154995756
Same. Ruthless unabomber hoodrat Jean is peak
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>>154995735
She originally treated finding out more about Peter as a fun side-quest which she bantered and had to put in some work, as he was the only person at the time that she couldn't find out anything about.
Whether romantic or not, interacting with Spider-Man is clearly fun for her when compared to people she actually views as enemies.
By the end of the movie, nothing is even fun anymore because she found out the main quest failed before it even started.
So when the side-quest appears again, it has no direct appeal to her, because she's grieving.
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She was going into his brain for the same reason people rape. Unironically. "I can do whatever I want to your body" mindset. Jean is a rapist.
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How do I acquire a landmine gf?
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That kid at the end was Jean trying to protect Peter's smile
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>>154995836
You say that, but Scott was emotionally a mess. So much so that Jean keeps crying into Wolverine arms.
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>>154995820
>MCU Spidey is basically a darling of his city and likely world famous
>Meaning that objetively most of if not ALL of the X-Men that would be around her age in the MCU are gonna also love him
>Gets to lord over the fact that Spider-Man took a bullet to save her life over all of her new friends and teammates
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>>154995968
In the 2000s characters like Wolverine, Sasuke, Shadow ect were the cool ones.
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>>154995613
>Coffin of Peter and JeanGrey
dammit it's peak. Drawfags please help!
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>>154995622
I found it interesting that "Why didn't Thanos just wish for infinite resources" popped up in this movie. The justification given is that Thanos is a fanatic and is convinced in his way is THE way. I find Peter in a similar position. It doesn't matter if Jean logically should be seen as irredeemable. What matters is that Peter thinks she can be redeemed because he's Peter Parker. Spider-Man defeated the Hand and the Hulk and all the others but Peter Parker saved the day by opening himself up to her. He took Thanos's stubbornness and gives it a positive application.
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>>154995920
>Unironically. "I can do whatever I want to your body" mindset. Jean is a rapist.
Hot!
>>154995908
>She originally treated finding out more about Peter as a fun side-quest which she bantered and had to put in some work, as he was the only person at the time that she couldn't find out anything about.
>Whether romantic or not, interacting with Spider-Man is clearly fun for her when compared to people she actually views as enemies.
Also it was clear she was flirting with him when she told him he made her blush after she learned he was investigating Jean.
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>>154995980
would be kinda cool if jean is the one who introduces the idea of spandex uniforms to the team because of spidey
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>>154995982
You would think Spidey wouldn’t be popular during that era, but he was and still is.
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>>154995986
A shame I lost the incest gif with all the incestuous characters in the Graves model. Would be hilarious if Jean and Peter were drawn in Coffin style.
And I hope they don't soften Jean, I am sick and tired of soft heroines. I want more characters who are ruthless, know they are evil and OWN IT
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>>154995823
It's sort of the relationship Peter has with a lot of his antagonists.
>Vulture: "You don't know shit, you're just a kid. If you don't fuck off, I WILL kill you."
>Mysterio: "I'm better than you, smarter than you, you can't beat my tech and if you get in the way, I WILL kill you."

Likewise, the relationship that Peter has with all of his antagonists, including the ones in No Way Home, is that he's always trying to appeal to their humanity, to reason. It just doesn't always work. And he's always trying to save them from themselves, which is a bit hit or miss.

>Homecoming: Peter manages to save Vulture from his tech exploding.
>Far From Home: Mysterio's too retarded so in spite of Peter's best efforts, Mysterio dies from accidentally shooting himself.
>No Way Home: Peter tries to help all the villains, which blows up spectacular in his face when Norman murders May. Peter nearly loses himself in vengeance, but is stopped by the other Peters. In the end, Norman is saved and Peter loses almost everything, but the other Peters were able to save him by allowing him to keep his compassion.
>Brand New Day: Despite having lost everything, Peter still tries to save Jean. And he actually succeeds.

What makes Peter somewhat unique in the MCU is that he's always trying to save everyone, for better or for worse. Because let's be real, most of the MCU's superheroes usually just end up killing their enemies or pummeling them half to death. There ARE exceptions, of course. Steve managed to save Bucky, Thor repeatedly tried to show compassion for Loki with extremely varying results.

With Peter and his villains, he's usually trying to stop them from going too far. With Jean, he actually succeeded. His compassion is his defining quality. That's why he was able to save Jean in the end, because he keeps losing everything but he never loses his compassion. I mean, except that one time when he almost did, but again, the other Peters managed to save him.
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>>154996012
>Also it was clear she was flirting with him when she told him he made her blush

that was obviously supposed to be sarcastic. but in my headcanon, deep down she was a little flattered that he looked her up
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>>154996016
Eh, that would be a bit much. Would make them feel more like they would only really be the X-Men people know because of Spidey.
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>>154995989
I like how many of the minor themes of this movie can be tied back to Peter and Jean's dynamic.Like you said even the fact that the movie feels the need to point out the Thanos debate.
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>>154995054
With how many images of her are in my Spider-Man folder, she might as well be. Might have to even make a subfolder at this rate, the influx is choking the life of it.
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>>154994253
>>154994296
I actually still really dislike that they cast Hugh Jackman and made Wolverine into this giant, muscular guy when he's 5'3 in the comics and his hero name reflects that, he's small but mighty. Completely lost in his movie versions thanks to that casting.
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>>154996163
>his hero name reflects that
Ironically it actually doesn't. Wolverines are the largest land-dwellers (because otters do water) of the mustelidae family.
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>>154995054
what the fuck?
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>>154995434
because her mom never taught her to look both ways before crossing the street
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>>154995774
To bring up the point about family, May hugging her in the mind is probably the first time she felt love from a maternal figure. Romantic or platonic, this shit is diabetes inducing sweet and it sucks so much ass that the next time they're going to interact is probably some big bloated battle scene in Secret Wars. I want them to Civil War that shit, give them more of a role than just faces in a crowd.
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>>154996048
>Steve managed to save Bucky
Even then, he never tried to save the Red Skull or show him the error of his ways. Thor only was compassionate to Loki because of their relationship, but never showed compassion to the giants
So yeah Peter is special and self sacrificial in that he tries to save them despite it being easier to just punch a hole in their chest/face. Peter is like Justice League's Flash, who tries to have fun with his rogue gallery and even has a kid of off-the-clock friendship with some (unless their name is Thawne).
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>>154995434
Jean is a zoomer, seeded it for the aura
>>154995054
Everyone is a spider-man character
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Jean before getting in his head:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxMjeSlweh0

Jean After getting in his head:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VofThzTwOcM
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goddamn how are these threads still moving so fast
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>>154996296
I noticed at one point a post got five replies within thirty seconds. That is extremely rapid for /co/ these days
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>>154996296
This pairing is just too powerful.
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>>154996209
And? That's only within their own family. They still take on much, much bigger things from other species and kill them, that's what makes them so impressive, and it's why Logan named himself after them, since he's a little guy who does the same thing.
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>>154996296
this is the biggest opening weekend of any movie ever. Its beating Endgame. This movie is more successful than the Avengers films
>>154996209
I think people who think like this are really big into zoology and science because the average person doesn't think of wolverines and badgers as "big" because they don't know that they are big members of small animal families.
People know to see tarantulas as giant because we are used to small spiders, but not badgers because to most people it just looks like a regular mammal.
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I want to draw Jean and Peter, but I need to ask: "the Other" is the mystical spider that caused Peter to evolve, right? I suppose their children will have to deal with that?
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>>154996353
the what
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Jean would flatten the entire united states if Peter died
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>>154996296
It's one of the only note worthy things out of the MCU in a long long time. Peter and Jean already have quite a lot in common (clones, super powered evil moments, tangled love lives) but the writers and filmmakers added in a dash of weebery and limited Jean's powerlevel/changed her backstory in a believable way to make their dynamic just compelling as hell. It really does make it feel like a true elseworlds, something that you wonder what's next. Something I haven't felt in the franchise since Infinity War.
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>>154996363
Jean has the Phoenix force, Peter has the spider-totems which makes him a special chosen one by a spider thing called the Great Weaver to be an avatar of a spider thing called the Other.
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I think what might be surprising to anyone without a disney + subscription is that Disney is the one invoking the Naruto comparison themselves . Kishimoto was literally one of the hosts of the BND special

To put that into perspective, all of the OTHER hosts are actually IN Spider-man movies. Tobey, Andrew, Tom, Mark Webb, one of Tom's dub actors and fucking Kishimoto
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>>154996286
Exactly what I thought when watching this. Peter is basically Rem in episode 15/arc 3. Broken but still crawling to save Jean. I love these 2 so much!
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>>154996405
>the other
>the great weaver
>spider-totems
the WHAT
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>>154995434
that honestly doesn't look intentional and Spider-Man should have easily saved him very bizarre scene
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>>154996405
Which of the two would have priority?
I’d like Jean and Peter to have twin girls (Hope and Mayday).
Cable was never a character I liked.
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>>154996296
Movie is still somewhat fresh and the ship has anons hooked hard.
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>>154996353
>Other wants Peter's child to inherit their shit
>Phoenix Force wants Jean's child to inherit their shit
>there's a grand cosmic battle behind the scenes every time they do it without protection
>in the end they settle it by giving one entity the first child, and the other one the second child
>they tell Peter and Jean they gotta have more than one child so the plan isn't a bust
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oh yeah...
if peter and jean had a kid it would inherit both the phoenix force and the spider totem power making it a multiversal god
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>>154996296
Spider-Man x any redhead is a universal law, and the longer its throttled the bigger the dam bursts.
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>>154996463
kek
>>154996455
I think they called suspension of disbelief for the sake of a joke. People try to find ways to be offended nowadays
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>>154996424
cosmic mumbo jumbo
the universe is a web and has a fondness for spiders
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>>154995434
Guys calm down, this is just Jean's version of throwing paper airplanes at a boy to tease him
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>>154996459
why would Peter have Cable?
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>>154996140
If you hoard images you might want to consider Hydrus, like a local booru with community tagging.
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>>154996517
kek
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>Where's Jean
>I think she just left
oh my heart
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>>154996506
>for the sake of a joke.
not a very good joke when nobody realizes it was meant to be a funny moment
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>>154996506
I honestly saw that as a character establishing moment (though tbf MCU characters often do bad things that *don't count* because it is meant to be a joke)
Jean wants Peter to stop chasing her. He will do whatever it takes to make him stop. She just doesn't realize how far he's willing to go
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>>154995807
>>154995904

I posted this in dbg and they are bullying cyclop in there
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>Hulk scene shows that Jean gets hurt when Hulk gets hurt
>immediately before this Peter was holding MJ by the neck and Jean was cackling
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I need Peter Parker and Jean Grey to KISS
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Fuck the X-Men. Jean should be a hero in NYC. Not quite as trigger happy as Frank but still ruthless. Still keep the 33 feet distance. Have only the omega level psychic shit pop off when she's really pissed. Same with Peter and those spider pheromones turning him into for all intents and purposes the Symbiote suited version.
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>>154996598
>dbg
For a second I thought this was /vg/ and was like ???? Dragonball General?
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>>154996557
In my movie theater people laughed at that scene. So I guess it depends
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>>154996606
They already kissed though
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>>154996622
I need Peter Parker and Jean Grey to KISS using their own mouths with a Zendaya meat doll.
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>>154994421
>>154994598
>You have me...in every universe.
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>>154996605
>She is crazy enough to ignore pain for the sake of making a point
MY DICK!
>>154996608
This. I want a police show based around Jean Grey investigating crimes using her telepathy ala Jessica Jones
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I actually feel bad for cyclops fans unironically. X-Men 97 did a great job undoing the cultural damage all of the 2000s X-men media did to Scott's reputation (X-men 97 is still cool though) and then here comes fucking Spider-man setting us back 25 years by being the first live action Jean that is an actual... character.
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>>154996618
Death Battle. It’s used for battle boarding, but as of late, it’s used to cuck post and anti-feat. Right now, cyclopfag is hiding behind punisher
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while we're talking about naruto

dustin daniel cretin gave spider-man the fucking sharingan
it's not even subtle
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>>154996605
Never mind the MJ stuff, I often think about how she was acting after he did all that stuff against Scorpion.
She was getting her ass beat, but the moment Peter shows a sign of interest about finding out who she is, she goes back to grinning.
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>>154996657
Oh so it's diet dbs then
In a way I was right kek
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>>154996647
Why? Cyclops does not really give a fuck about Jean or Emma or anything aside from the mutant cause. It is literally all that matters to him, which is one of the reasons his relationships are hell, since they're of secondary concern to him. At least Jean is useful for threatening government agents to further the cause, I guess.
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>>154996605
It wasn't the Hulk getting hurt, it was banner fighting against her mentally
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I need Jean to save Peter from the symbiote. I DESPERATELY need to see Peter and Jean bruised after she fought to save him just like he saved her mind.
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>>154996674
Jean owes Peter her virginity.
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>>154996733
This so much
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>>154996691
>I watched a YouTube videos
Why can’t you form your own opinion instead of the opinion of a soft spoken nigger, bar for bar, you’re quoting the video by Moe Schmo

https://youtu.be/jpRW90Af9as?t=481
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YOU ARE MY FRIEND
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>>154996766
...IN A WORLD WE MUST DEFEND
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>>154996753
I do not watch youtube videos about comics, or e-celebs of any kind for that matter. It's not like it takes a rocket scientist to reach this conclusion about Scotts character and what he really cares about. If outright killing Jean would mean peace and security for mutants worldwide, he would do it in a heartbeat. Scott only really cares about his people and their place in the world, it is the entire focal point of his existence. Basically a religious fanatic, but political/racially driven instead of spiritually.
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>>154996766
*BOYFRIEND
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>>154996674
How good is Jean in bed?
>>154996733
Are you sure she's a virgin? Given how may minds she's been inside of
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Didn't the X-Men form an actual ethnostate in the comics? Wonder if the MCU has the balls to touch that with a ten foot pole.
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>>154996818
They do it like three or four times.
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>>154996880
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how would jean deal with mysterio, green goblin, and JJJ?
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>>154996840
I mean it makes sense, but I get it if the MCU doesn't go with that.
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>>154996880
Source?
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>>154996793
Okay buddy
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>>154996733
I want him to unleash half a decade of pent-up sexual aggression and loneliness into Jean's virgin mutant pussy. It'll start extra rough because of his arachnid mode, but it becomes more and more tender and soft as it goes as he focuses on making sure she has a good time. Her psychic powers will ensure both of them are intimately connected the entire time, sharing every thought and sensation with one another. Nobody will know when Peter begins and when Jean ends. Eventually his webshooter will get super sticky in her V-max, and when she locks her legs tightly around him and their fingers intertwine, he'll be whispering low in her ear that she'll never be alone again before he stares into her joyful, teary eyes with the warmest smile he's ever had before giving her the deepest kiss he's given anyone, his tongue writhing in her mouth like a coked up snake as they simultaneously climax and they start the process of welcoming new life into the world.
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>>154996905
Mind hopping suicide, GG is a hard battle and I’d say she needs help, mind hopping suicide
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>>154996943
who let you on the x-mansion wifi, jean
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>>154993916
>when a fujo who only draws yaoi tries to draw a hetero ship
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>>154996914
The cause being Cyclops entire reason for being and the complete focus of his life is the one consistent point of his character from start to finish, over decades. I don't know if you can really call it organic but he went from a bright eyed idealist who believed in achieving said cause through peace and unity to an outright ethnic supremacist who is no longer trying to create a world where mutants can coexist with humans, but rather a world where they can exist without stepping on each others toes, sovereign and separate. Still slightly more idealistic than "just genocide all humans and take over as the superior species" but barely.
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Reminder that Peter is strong enough to break out of a telekinetic hold
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>>154993957
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>People start figuring out that later versions of Spidey's universal controller is being used to depower and kidnap mutants
>Some of the more radical mutants in the X-Men talk about attacking Spider-Man for what he's caused
>Jean just outright threatens to kill them if they even think of it
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>>154996793
It's too late bro you made Cyclops's fan mad
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>>154996943
>Nobody will know when Peter begins and when Jean ends
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>>154996553
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>I now live in an age where Peter Parker and Scott Summer fans have beef with each other
Damn.
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>>154996947
It's crazy that Jean's signature attack is the Elon Musk Miles Morales meme

>>154996961
Spideyjean has all of the appeal of a yaoi ship (two characters with actual personalities and agency who canonically clash and Fanonically fuck)
But is a straight pairing between characters who technically kissed!
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>>154996961
>Ship do good it unfujos the fujos
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>>154996908
https://x.com/maki_hyt/status/2087299016380096570
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>>154996943
I think you just made me emotionally cum, anon. I'm stealing this one!
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>>154997006
I'm curious as to how Spider-Man's presence in New York affected everything else. Like he was completely irrelevant to Daredevil and Fisk, but surely he's become a much more significant presence after No Way Home.
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>>154996989
>Jean rapidly approaches Peter, getting a terrible feeling welling up within her chest
>she sees him in such a broken state, pretty much at death's door
>clutches him tightly, looks at the people who attacked him
>her voice, very low, she stares at them blankly
>pic related
>"None of you... Will be allowed to live."
>proceeds to turn everyone into mincemeat while to the point where she overkills them
>she carries Peter him, bandaging him up and cries next to him on his chest
This stuff writes itself. So much potential.
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Imagine if Peter sees Scott and Jean and thinks they actually look cute together and tries to push Jean towards pursuing Scott and Jean gets offended that he isn't trying to fight for her. Peter too oblivioisnto know she likes him
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>>154997009
>Scott Summer fans
I'm being so real there aren't Cyclops fans. What you're talking about are fans of mutants because they can be used as a stand-in for sexual and racial minorities and they act like the asshole Cyclops that just wants to threaten non-mutants (white people in their minds) into compliance.
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Out of all of this stuff I am genuinely interested in Phoenix vs Symbiote. I will live if Peter and Jean don't end up together
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>>154996943
*where Peter begins and where Jean ends.

It's pretty rare that I want two characters to end up together to this degree especially from a live action property. I think ultimately they belong to one another. As found family, lovers, it matters little. Sadie was right, he saved her and she saved him. They're bonded for life now.
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>>154996971
If he’s so superior, how come Spider-Man consistently whoop his ass
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>>154996943
i think you might like this archive of our own work anon

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>>154997042
>Jean gets so fucking mad she pulls out the Phoenix
>Now Peter has a moral relativist of a psychic after him along with the fucking PHOENIX
It's a shame that Tom likely will refuse to let anything like that happen since he's married. But yeah this idea has a lot of potential.
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>>154997029
I stole it from Cyclops being a cuck copypasta but I made it a tad more intimate and less shitposty. The credit goes to that anon who wrote it originally
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>>154994143
Usually Spider-Man dynamic with the X-Men is complicated by him, or just as frequently them, being kind of a dick.

Spider-Man's less of one here and we don't know exactly how they're going to play the X-Men. But if they're going to go for a more bitter, but still ultimately optimistic route, I think we have the general policy being angry he invented the inhibitors but grudgingly coming to understand he's just trying to help. Jean has an obvious tension here of maybe she backslides on him a bit, not a lot but not being quite as emotionally open as she was right after he took a bullet for him, and struggles to try and trust him as much as she wants to, especially if the other X-Men just see him as a masked menace themselves.

So I guess the second, but I'd put less focus on the public's perception of their dynamic.
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>>154996733
She got him shot. She almost cost him his life thus she must create a new one. Bonus that it would keep her out of trouble.

>>154996989
>You will not touch my husband
>Complete silence while everyone processes her accidental fantasy reveal
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Can you imagine if they ever adapted the scene of spiderman jumping on Jean and kissing her
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>>154997074
>Zendaya taking Timmy's cock on Arrakis
>Tom can't do nothing
Bit of a double standard.
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>>154997103
Welcome to women being women.
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>>154994407
>Do you guys think it'd lead to any consequences like some rogue Marvel writer getting inspired to write an elseworld comic where these two are a thing?
I'd love to see that but Felicia never got to be Spidey's main love interest and that would be unfair in my opinion
Maybe get a weeb to write a Spidey harem
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>>154997083
>she backslides on him a bit, not a lot but not being quite as emotionally open as she was right after he took a bullet for him

i dont think this would happen, she's the direct reason he made the inhibitor in the first place. if anything, she'd feel guilty that she was so destructive that it called for such a a thing in the first place
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she could've just killed metzger instantly here but she willingly chose to hear peter out
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>>154995774
I was pretty aware through watching BND that they're kind of trying to hedge things a bit. They come down SO hard on the memory stuff being inescapable, that MJ is just NOT the person who loved Peter, that it'd be pretty fucking stupid to just have the memories come back.

But. MJ still clearly has a dynamic with Spider-Man/Peter and they very bluntly have a "my boyfriend will just complain I'm withdrawn again" thing to set up future problems in that relationship. And he immediately falls into the familiar dynamic with Ned and then there's the handshake, something easily read as just him realizing this is Spider-Man or perhaps something more. Is the handshake actual muscle memory, or just a sign that MJ and Ned haven't changed so much in five years that they're no longer the people who became Peter's friends and loved ones given time to know him?

Again, hedging. Nothing in the movie solidifies a direction, beyond them explicitly and narratively highlighting that the spell can't just be "broken" conveniently. But it feels easy to imagine they can just have MJ fall in love with Peter all over again.
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>>154997036
New York makes zero sense in the Marvel universe because so many heroes are based there yet somehow rarely interact with each other, or respond to threats that would logically incur a reaction from all of them since they're all living in the same general area. It gets even more hilarious when you realize most of it isn't even in New York City as a whole, but rather just Manhattan.
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>>154996766
AA ANO HI NO YUME
>>154996671
Save for the hand-sing, Jean's body hopping shenanigans could be inspired by the Yamanaka clan technique, especially with the whole "the victim doesn't remember it" stuff.
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>>154997087
>>Complete silence while everyone processes her accidental fantasy reveal
Thankfully she can just memory wipe everyone in an instant so her secret keeps safe. Until like fucking Emma or whoever digs into her brain for something to make fun of her for and discovers her mental shrine to that guy from New York swinging around showing his ass off.
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>>154997157
Rent in Marvel's NYC must be dirt fucking cheap, honestly.
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>>154997048
There absolutely are Cyclops fans, he's the powerful leader with a righteous cause, that will always appeal to some people. Amusingly most of his fans liked his AvX version the best, since it highlighted those two qualities while combining them with a ruthlessness and drive Cyclops hadn't had before, which added depth to his character.
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>>154996048
Something probably not intended at the time but is pretty poetic now is that, thematically, is that Peter is pretty much only capable of saving Jean in BND because Aunt May died in NWH (though in a more typical Spider-Man adaptation Uncle Ben also easily slots in there). It's entirely because Jean can look into his head and see the same kind of pain there and that Aunt May's words can also apply to her that Peter's final appeal works.

It's a complicated piece of symmetry where obviously Aunt May dying is bad, but it reinforces what she was trying to say in NWH: that the cost is worth it if you can keep helping someone.
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>>154997155
I agree. They went out of their way to establish that MJ reads the letter and sees the original MJ as a different human being. Feels weird to backtrack


Did anyone else find it a little odd that MJ is Ned's roommate? They were friends through Peter but they didn't show any sign of being close throughout high school. Even in No Way Home she seems to tolerate him because he's Peter's friend. It's like the spell filled in the blank of Peter being gone by just making them best friends
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>>154997068
What do you mean "superior"? I'm just qualifying what Cyclops is as a character. Whether you find a zealot for a righteous cause (questionably righteous, admittedly) appealing is up to you, but that is 100% what Cyclops is. It's the only consistent character trait along with being a strong tactician and leader he's kept over the decades, everything else about him has wavered and changed from writer to writer, so you cannot really argue that the core of the character is anything but his dedication to mutantkind and his desire to see them free. It's his entire reason for living, and what defines him as a character.
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>>154997177
>Emma finds out about Jeans crush
>Sends her some spiderman themed negligee
>asks if she knows how to use it or needs help
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>>154996459
My headcanon is that Peter and Jean have three kids: A son and twin daughters.

>Nathaniel Parker: Has all the powers of his dad and mom, but he's been selected by both The Phoenix and The Other as an avatar.

>Sara and May "Mayday" Parker: Same as their brother but their spider-sense and telepathy become stronger the closer in proximity they are together; when they are in physical contact, they become so powerful that they gain precognitive abilities and are able to overload the senses of any spider-totem and mutant telepath on the planet.
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So I guess everyone just kind of forgot that Yelena isn't capable of sexual arousal huh
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>>154997262
>implying yelena's even remotely attractive
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>>154997042
Will she make them explode like this?
https://youtu.be/-ZDAInykmUs
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>>154997260
A telepath with spider-sense feels like it would be hilariously fucking busted. Like even Peter could tell that Punisher was taking a shot at Jean while practically in a pocket dimension.
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>>154996493
>multiversal god
Actually, it wouldn't... yet. It would be marked as spider-totem first by the Great Weaver assigning it a role similar to how it assigned Peter's son Benjy Parker the title of Scion, and Mayday the title of Patternmaker, still if The Other were to attach itself ot their kid, and The Phoenix would also do the same, then the child would inherit the ability to tap into the Web of Life and Destiny and the White Hot Room simultaneously.
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Phoenix Force + the Other
Holy shit
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>>154997250
>Burns Emma's room down in response
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>>154996943
>Eventually his webshooter will get super sticky in her V-max
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>>154997036
It's easy enough to fluff it as like, even with Peter in nearly 24/7 Spider-Man mode, he just can't actually deal with anything. Him working closely with DeWolff (whose first name is apparently Jean, fucking hilarious) even helps out here: There's just so much shit going on, he doesn't ever end up dealing directly with Daredevil and Fisk too much. He'll rely on the police scanner and cases DeWolff's people have, but he's just not capable of getting to it all even in five years of near constant Spider-Manning.
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>>154993867
>Spidey styles in the X Men again and they only win by cheating using a telepath

Homo Superior my ass.
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>>154997201
Which city has cheaper rent, Marvel's NYC or Gotham?
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>>154997103
>Spiderman curse of marrying then divorcing mary Jane actress caused by zendaya seething and sneeding at the onscreen chemistry of Peter Parker and Jean Grey
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>>154997357
I think out of sheer numbers it's gotta be NYC but they both have to be so cheap some places would probably PAY YOU to live there.
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>>154997360
Tom's too much of a wife guy but I have seen many couples in Hollywood just split.
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Jean would be a great partner for Peter. He can keep her in check and ease her grief while she can help with stop being broke and rein in his worst sacrificial tendencies. Plus she actually can understand his situation unlike Zendaya.
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>>154997127
I more talking about her just not being 100% team Spidey all the time. That she doesn't come to him with everything or isn't willing to go to him with the mutants' problems because she's afraid he won't be as understanding or helpful as her now incredibly ideal experience with him was.

Remember, I'm being conflict brained here. It'd also be fun to just have Jean be Ride Or Die for Spidey, but I think it makes the relationship more dynamic if now she's "withdrawn" cause she still kind of can't believe how much of a hero Peter was and is afraid of ruining that perfect moment by bring him something that might make him say no.

Think Tsundere but tsun because she's afraid if she's too dere she'll be hurt even if we, the audience, obviously know she's just being overly afraid. Like an abused puppy that's way too hesitant to be petted and keeps growling out you even as it let's you comfort it.
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Tom will get physical with the Paparazzi to protect Zendaya, I don't think they're breaking up any time soon.
What I don't want is their personal lives to dictate the movies
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Dandadan is garbage.
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>>154997349
Thing is he's gotta have a pretty large presence. Even if he's not actively one of Fisk's archenemies like in the comics, just by him doing things on a regular basis, he must have some sort of huge impact on the criminal underworld/superhero community. Like he's practically the Captain America of street level shit.
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>>154997408
Not to mention MCU Jean would be a good way to conclude a Symbiote arc. Have it be like Spectacular where it drags Peter into his own mind to drown him in grief only for a blinding light to help drag him out of the ashes of his grief and past failures like a Phoenix
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>>154997422
What the fuck
I was just getting mad about this in dandadan
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>>154997235
It's one of the more obvious "it's just easier to do it this way" patches. It'd be too much narrative work to have Peter not only independently reconnect with MJ and Ned, but also you'd have to have separate scenes of him keeping up on their lives rather than, again, very conveniently just watching Ned's instagram feed.
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>>154997311
Honestly, what does Jean even see in a Peter fully empowered by The Other lol
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>>154997311
>spider with wings that's on fire
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>>154997438
Yeah having a second Peter KJ love story feels like running in circles
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>>154997439
You could say the same thing for Jean when she goes Dark Phoenix lmao
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>>154997422
what a retarded comparison
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>>154997416
Yeah, as much as people want to meme it I'm pretty sure they're genuinely head over heels for each other to the point she was fine with going to a fucking comic store with Tom. It's definitely a shame if it would affect the storylines for the characters they play but I dunno, doesn't seem like it is if they're actually committing to having MJ's memory loss be shown as something that actually needs to be worked through.
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>>154997450
"Flame Arachnid Mode" sounds obnoxiously anime
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>>154997422
I hate anime
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Dustin Daniel Cretin on his way to make "Eight Legs Chakra Mode" something narratively possible
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>>154997465
She has amazing chemistry with Tom IRL but I just don't think Michelle has much chemistry with Peter.
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>>154997415
>Keeps pushing him away so he won't learn why he should hate her
>Baka keeps showing up because he doesn't want her hating him

Would work for 1 total plotline within the very next movie. Like a cold open to the xmen just existing with Jean grey as a member and society not freaking out about it. But the movie is "spiderman and the Xmen" so a big bit of it is Jean being defensively tsundre until finally realizing Peter just is that guy, whole time Peter trying to repair a relationship that wasn't damaged in the first place, all while they fight sentinels or something.
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>>154997520
Which actually really sucks since yeah you see them together and she's practically a bundle of joy, she'd be a perfect MJ if she was allowed to actually act anything like her lel. But hey it makes making shipping MCU Peter and Jean easier at least.
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>friendly neighborhood spider man could have given us peter x jean and cut out the middle man in case the MCU doesn't do it but instead we are stuck with the most generic love interest fucking possible made out of a superhero who doesnt even know spider man
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This is how I'd like them to progress Jean's character
>Ignore the X-men, Phoenix and cosmic shit. Leave that for an Avengers crossover
>There is no Xavier institute, Jean remains a hood rat struggling to make ends meet and starts the show with the barest form of telepathy and telekinesis strong enough to move a coin a few inches by extreme concentration. Her main skill keeps being possessing people
>Jean arrives to a city and hoping to prevent others from feeling the loss she suffered, tries her hand at superheroics and keep trying to track the guy who murdered her sister
>Turns out she's pretty bad at it and struggles with not going overboard (how does Peter do it?)
>Catches the attention of a charming man who she can't easily read and control
>He proposes to teach her how to become a proper superhero and shows her that he has a very similar ability to hers to make people obedient
>Starts teaching her how to use her abilities but his ruthless methodology clashes with the example Peter set
>She ends up rejecting him, after which she learns that he actually wanted to harness her abilities as a weapon
>She sets to catch him but he parallels Jean in his use of people as meatshields and makes them commit crimes
(CONT)
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MJ is just Zendaya’s oc. She’s a stuck up bitch and they WILL divorce. She can’t cook, clean, or do anything a woman would do
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>>154997569
>Show turns into a police series with Jean trying to capture him but struggles because he is too skilled and she has to concede moral ground to get the upper hand
>Peter joins shortly after to support Jean and through their relationship get closer to capture the villain
>The series shows them starting to date and the mushy parts of their relationship as contrast to the gruesome detective cases Jean solves
>Show ends in climatic scene where he puts Peter in danger and Jean has to resist the urge to kill in order to win. She manages to defeat the villain but barely thanks to the power of love and Peter's help, representing the death of the old Jean by capturing the villain instead of resorting to murder
>Peter congratulates her for her growth and they watch the sunset
>Symbiote arc starts here!
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It's honestly weird how both Peter and Jean are the avatars of cosmic animal beings that are also concerned with the concept of life, death, and rebirth
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>>154997578
So the spider man movies are multi billion dollar roleplay sessions
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>>154994091
>Posting cringe unrealistic Shonen Mc ship slop

Graylu is better
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>>154997551
>Peter turns her down because he thinks she's acting strange and thinks someone is controlling her
>She just gets even wetter over how caring and nice he's being even if he turned her down
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>>154997531
The Daria-esque personality is just so lame. I can't think of a single love interest that I really remember fondly. I guess Pepper and Michelle are the standouts because they're the ones I've seen the most but I only liked Jane when she had cancer. Peggy Carter is only really memorable because Haley Atwell is hot as shit. Doc Strange's love interest (did he even have one for real?) got married to another person. Which makes "I love you in every universe" utterly forgettable because I just don't feel the connection. Compared to the big line of BND hitting harder because it is almost as much Jean's story as it is Peter's.
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>>154997422
aira was always better and i'm tired of pretending that she wasn't
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>>154997551
I need to see Jean wearing more Spider-Man accessories.
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>>154997587
They also have their own arcs of rejecting the cosmic animal being that chose them too. (1/2)
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>>154997605
I wouldn't know, I don't watch shonenshit. I'm more into seinen, most shonen thing I watch is Youjo Senki because of logistics autism
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>>154997175
You're right. Jean's powers work more like Ino's than comic Jean Grey

weird...
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>>154994673
>implying there's any overlap between the people saying these things
I don't care about what ships movie secondaries push and I still think Dark Web is a top five worst Spider-Man story of all time
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>>154997627
(2/2)
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>>154995735
She could possess him, and make him kill Metzger for funsies. Speaking of that is the stance of the movie that no one died during Jean's shenanigans?
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>>154994709
>Entertainingly cruel villain
>Excellent foil
>Would be kino if she was his ally and things were platonic
>Would be kino if they were in love
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>>154997588
Yeah pretty much
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>>154995622
Part of getting better is facing the consequences for your actions. You can't just kill a bunch of people then go
>Oh I see the error of my ways
>Bye now
And expect everyone to be ok with it
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Rmember that time Ino made basically the entire nation feel Naruto's motivation on accident?
Imagine if Jean did that with Peter
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>>154993551
I fucking love that this is becoming a general. SpiderPhoenix General, SPG

Or PJG?
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>>154997689
SPG because we're all spergs
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she's into butt stuff for sure
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>>154997484
>it's Naruto and Sasuke and their big stupid chakra stands fighting
>except Peter with a big Spider Spirit and Jean with the Phoenix Aura
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>>154997620
I like to draw her with a spider choker (even if it clashes a bit with the rest of her ensemble). Similarly, I imagine Peter has a picture of her in tucked away in an inside pocket of his suit
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>>154997697
>imagine Peter has a picture of her in tucked away in an inside pocket of his suit
Dying
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>>154993869
I want this ship alive so that MCU acknowledges it.
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>>154997677
Exactly!
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>>154997756
The real Thunderbolts got this right
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>>154997678
>Spidey being the last man standing against the main villain, barely holding together yet still sluggin' it out as hard as he did when he first started fighting
>Jean hops into his head to tell him to just cut his losses and run, to at least be the one that gets to live
>Peter's sheer determination to survive and keep everyone safe is strong enough to make Jean leak those feelings out to everyone else so her brain doesn't fry, ends up giving everyone a second wind
Unironically would be top tier even if cheesy as shit.
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>>154997620
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>>154997808
Does Peter get a kickback on those?
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>>154997822
probably not
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>>154997792
https://youtu.be/ZX_1Khu0UqI?si=DQAEpNqS0ohT1-f2&t=33
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>>154997822
No because nobody knows who spiderman is. He wouldnt get anything unless he linked himself to spiderman.
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>>154997835
Motherfucker needs to get a lawyer then.
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>Peter gets with Michelle and Jean gets with Scott
>BUT they remain incredibly close, Jean sticking up for him when the inhibitor chips get leaked and Peter helping them kick Magneto/Sentinel/whatever ass when they're in his neck of the woods

As much as I'd prefer a romance, this is a fair compromise.
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>>154997208
>Amusingly most of his fans liked his AvX version the best
very amusingly actually, because he fucking lost like a bitch there
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>>154997885
>putting the idea in his head and getting mad when he starts thinking it
fucking muties
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>>154997885
need a redraw of this with MCU jean where peter isn't imagining but jean forcefully flashes it into his head anyways
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>>154995054
Marvel as a whole is just Spider-Man's extended universe
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>>154997938
>MCU Jean looks into his head to make sure, sees that he's genuinely trying not to picture anything
>Makes him picture it with a sleazy grin on her face
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>>154997938
>you're the first guy since I got my Xman™ skin tight super suit who hasn't immediately pictured me naked haha... (Still maddeningly not picturing her naked)
>I'd never do that to you Jean... Jean what are you doing
>Spidey fights off the mind rape projection before it can clear nipple
>You've gotta stop doing that Jean
>Angry glare
>Flashes him for real
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>>154997995
>this is all before Jean even gets the Phoenix fucking with her head.
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Reminder that Banner says precisely
>My brain, I think she broke something!
Jean smashed his control
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they have a potential goldmine with this ship but they're never gonna go through with it just to keep trying to shill zendaya
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>>154998060
I want her to smash Peter's hips
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>>154997876
Meh, the X-Men are shit, I would rather the next movie show the mansion exploding and Jean remaining a hoodrat learning to use her abilities on her own
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Drawing some Peter Jean sexo comic. Might draw the sex offscreen
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>>154998122
Amazing work, anon! Keep us posted!
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>>154998122
no. onscreen. NOW.
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>>154998075
If this ship gains enough momentum over the next couple of months, there might be a chance.
We’d need something like Tom or Sadie liking a piece of fan art that depicts them romantically.
That would be enough fuel to keep it going
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>>154998075
Better that than if they went with it and did it poorly. Or worse, have it in a What If episode
>What if the Punisher missed?
Jean and Peter end up as teammates before she goes Phoenix for some dipshit reason and without the X-Men to help out, she kills everything for some reason.
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>>154998140
Everyone lets send Sadie and Tom pictures of SpiderPhoenix!
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>>154998159
Tom does research. They know and Zendaya is seething
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>>154998140
I'm good with a elseworlds at the most. Cute fan art and fanfics. In a few years when it's all said and done and it ends with the vanilla pairings, we'll look at this as a curiosity. Like Reylo but not as dumb. Except Reylo had a cynical pandering moment.
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>>154998179
>seething
She was the one behind it all, what do you mean?
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>>154998159
They see it but don't react to it; I doubt Sadie is allowed to say anything, as it could spark a scandal—like rumors that Zendaya is upset—so those kinds of comments should also be avoided as much as possible.
Supporting the ship without saying anything about Zendaya is the path to victory.
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>>154998211
I sincerely doubt Zendaya isn't able to differentiate between fictional characters and her real life marriage to Tom.
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>>154998209
>we need a scene where I play another girl possessing me- MJ- and she's trying to break my husband- I mean Peter's heart
>also she makes me kiss him
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>>154998228
>Zendaya will never allow another actress to mack on her husband
>also if the movie does not have Jean turn to the camera and outline everything she did wrong in the film and that she knows it was wrong and is sorry for it and then turns herself in its is whitewashing her
I feel like these sorts of thoughts are related.
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>>154998228
But doesn't she kiss other guys? I've never watched any of her shows or movies, but I remember seeing a trailer in the theater where she was being kissed by two guys in bed.
Being an actor's partner must be hard, because you often have to watch them be with someone else.
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>>154998272
>Rules for you but not for me
Typical foid behavior. Peter must be FREE and by free I mean giving us a graphic sex scene with Sadie in the next movie where she leg locks him as he shoots his spiderweb straight into her v-max!
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>they do spidey x jean officially
>in return, they do scott x rogue
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>>154998403
>in return, they do scott x rogue
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s&ra=m
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>siblingcoded
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>>154998209
There was gonna be a kiss scene between Sadie and Tom, but Zendaya made it about her. Eye rolls
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>>154998403
>not Scott/Ms Marvel
you know Iman would be 100% up for it
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>>154998465
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>>154998403
I wouldn't mind provided they make it compelling
>>154998465
B A S E D
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>>154998475
>but Zendaya made it about her
what a bitch
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Imagine if instead of Charles, Jean meets Magneto first
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They're not gonna have Peter date a 16-year-old. This isn't the 90s anymore, he can't make out with Dagger like he did that one time.
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>>154998678
They're supposed to be similar in age, with Jean being slightly younger
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>>154998678
>They're not gonna have Peter date a 16-year-old.
Feige has already stated they're about the same age I have no idea where you tards got the 16yr old thing from in the first place
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>>154998465
You ever notice people only call characters "sibling-coded" when they're straight? Just noticing.
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>>154998721
You're just noticing now?
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>>154998678
>UHMM SHE'S A CHILD????
>they're literally around the same age
>WELL SHE SHOULD BE A CHILD
ive seen this shit more than it should exist
what causes this
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>>154998687
>with Jean being slightly younger
Age gap? Yikes, Spidey's not a heckin' groomer.
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>>154998766
Troondayafags coping.
>>154998663
Even worse, Frank
He would be like "kill them all, Jean!"
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>>154998721
Just now? Been going on for years, you just know they silently hate it lmao
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>>154998721
"Sibling-coded" just means they dislike the ship and don't like other people shipping it so they try to force a sibling angle/dynamic in an effort to decrease its popularity. While I have seen it sometimes used on gay ships it is primarily used on straight ones.
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>>154997422
That's just plain wrong. First of all, Momo was the only one to notice Takakura's existence much like Jean was the only one who noticed Peter Parker and not just Spider-Man. what's more, Jean and Momo also share similar powers.
Regarding memory loss it also doesn't apply because Momo still feels attracted to him she just doesn't know why. As for Aira, she wasn't really supporting him, in fact she was taking advantage of the situation and tried to get him to like her now that Momo was out of the picture.
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Has anyone else started another thread yet?>>154998650
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>>154994143
I'd want it to be a dynamic that evolves over time. There are three stages I would want to see:
>Antagonistic
Pretty simple. Jean isn't able to mediate for whatever reason (either incapacitated or busy) so when the X-Men are trying to figure out the inhibitors and trace it back to Spider-Man they get pissed at him. This results in Spider-Man having to fight several of them solo and being on opposite sides for a movie. Tie it into Avengers vs X-Men.
>Forgiveness
Jean intervenes and the others learn about her backstory, realising Peter made the inhibitors out of desperation and that he's arguably the only reason mutants have a fighting chance at a peaceful life (imagine what the reception would be if Peter hadn't stopped Jean) causes them to make amends with Spider-Man. Who then stands up for mutantkind publicly and causing a controversial split between New Yorkers who either start to dislike Spidey or choose to believe in him and support mutantkind.
>Employment
Due to Peter's history with the X-Men and support for mutants, they extend an invitation to him to be a teacher at the current incarnation of the school to help teach young mutants how to use their powers responsibly and coping with suddenly having them. This would put him in a crossover movie with the X-Men with his class taking a central role in the plot.
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>>154998926
make sure it's specifically spidey jean instead of just invading one of the other marvel threads
no offense
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>>154998851
>it also doesn't apply
you just described how it perfectly applies. MJ admits she doesn't love Peter, yet she still feels attracted to be around him all the time now. She doesn't have memories but she still feels safe around him for stuff she wouldn't be towards strangers.
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>>154996716
This but with Peter and Jean holding hands after purging symbiote and it took a while for them to realize it.
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>>154995074
>Comic Jean does bad things because she gets in bad moods and has no self control
You're an Emmafsg aren'tcha?
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>>154998967
>They admit they love each other
>it frees them both at the same time
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>>154994253
Now I want to see a Last Stand movie with old Peter against the world.
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>>154998979
I my mind I was picturing the Thunderbolts Bob punching Void scene with Yelena hugging him, just replace Bob with Peter, Void with Symbiote, Yelena with Jean. Add Jean saying "You have me".
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>>154994407
I think it's on the table. Maybe not currently but I can see some teenager turning into a SpiderPhoenix shipper and later becoming a Marvel writer.
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If anyone goes to D23 and if they allow Q&A, please ask will Peter and Jean meet again. Don't as if they're going to be an item, we want the suits to know this ship is a movement and people are craving more.
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>SpiderPhoenix subreddit page reached 15k followers in ~5 days
Too powerful. I personally think at the moment this is Spider-Man's most popular ship already.
I might have to make an account just for this.
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>>154999074
I made a Reddit account just for it LMAO
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>>154994726
because he SELLS
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MCU Peter is not interested in white women.
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>>154994726
1. Spider-Puberty
2. Burden
3. Indomitable Willpower
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>>154999074
The 15k is weekly visitors not followers (the 820 is not followers either). The actual number of subscribers is around 2.5k
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>>154999074
The ship is popular, but a subreddit proves nothing. Redditors are insane fucks who will make a subreddit for literally anything. Depending on the popularity of a series, they'll even make a subreddit for characters who only got mentioned by name but haven't made an actual appearance yet.
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>>154999162
It proves that people love Sadie Sink with Tom Holland
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>>154995735
Its not like there was anything else for her to do though? Her sister is dead. And she was already holding new york hostage for giggles.
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>>154999178
Well yeah, but I'm just saying, subreddits don't make for a great barometer.
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>>154996347
inflation adjusted?
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This is a Brand New Day thread, but I can’t stop laugh at this

https://x.com/bobtheratreborn/status/2087027349090886002?s=46
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>>154998957
Momo had a completely different reaction however. Yes, she also said she didn't love him but unlike Michelle she was not only flustered but clearly blushing and not at all indifferent.
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>>154996947
If she enters osborns mind won't she get killed by the goblin?
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The most impressive thing about the ending of No Way Home is that they took the fundamental premise of One More Day and completely flipped it around.

>Everyone forgets that Spider-Man is Peter Parker, but as a consequence, everyone forgets Peter ever existed.
>Aunt May dies and stays dead
>The status quo of MCU's Spider-Man is both preserved AND in tatters. His secret identity is preserved, but everything else is ruined.
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>>154999235
You can't say MJ was indifferent to what she said. The movie makes a clear point to show how much she struggled to even have the conversation to begin with.
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>>154993728
kek
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>>154997157
new york has like 20 million people basically the size of a country also isn't there some werid statistic about the nypd being the size of an army?
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>>154997262
qrd?
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>>154999150
Peter/Nico will be the best crossover Spidership soon
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>>154998209
she wants out of this marriage so bad
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>>154998475
What would she even do then? just kiss spiderman halfway throufh the movie for no reason?
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I'm playing the Sims 4 and I have Sadie and Peter. They aren't married, but they live together
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>>154999335
I'm not manipulating anything, but Zendaya, Tom's wife keep being nosy
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>>154998475
that makes absolutely no sense. Jean was still bad at the time, and also she was still unmasked, and not even revealed to be a girl yet even. There's absolutely not enough mental gymnastics to insert her in that scene.
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>>154999351
>tall Zendaya
Lore accurate
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>>154999266
The conversation in BND has a very definitive tone. Michelle makes that pretty clear. Very different from Dandadan.
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>>154999351
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Honestly, I can't blame Peter for not telling Ned and MJ. That was the same movie in which Aunt May died. You could even make the argument that the reason she died was BECAUSE Peter was Spider-Man. I think, after what happened, it's hard to blame Peter for not telling them.

Maybe it wasn't right, but the events of that film clearly left a mark on him. It's obvious why he doesn't have much of a social life as Peter Parker.
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>>154999288
nah that cartoon really sucks nothing good will come from it
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>>154999406
they passed their auditon
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>>154999406
Just make sure that Spider-man is ready to take on the assassin Zendaya Jones hired, CHIN MAN!!!!
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>sims shit in /co/
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someone make a new thread
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>>154999442
Right, I think people misinterpret what MJ says when she says he made that choice for her. The choice she's talking about isn't telling them or not, it's the choice to be with him or not. He didn't tell them because he didn't want them endangered by him, but he still could've told them and then they could've chosen to stay or leave.
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>>154999442
>You could even make the argument that the reason she died was BECAUSE Peter was Spider-Man
Pretty sure Aunt May died cause Peter's dumb ass didn't sent Norman back to get stabbed in the dick like he was meant to be. It was Norman Osborn's destiny to get rammed in the crotch by hose own glider.
On a unrelated note I kind of wish they kept the scene of him working at a deli.
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>>154999328
>Jean grey meets guy who she can't instantly read mind of
>There any chance the characters aren't welded to each other after inventing that little spider power wholecloth
Trust the plan, they figured out how to save the MCU.
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>>154999393
And yet, she still hangs out with Spider/Peter despite being a stranger.
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>>154999521
Right, because the "spark" is still there. But a spark is not love. I think the easiest way they're going to get Peter back with Ned and MJ is just that it "feels" right and eventually MJ will fall in love again. But the movie is pretty blunt. She's dating someone else and not in love with Peter at the moment. How could she be, she doesn't know him. And we are told this by a character who specifically gets into a person's head.
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>>154999472
Look i found you in game. Go get a haircut fatty
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>>154999152
Well, this is disappointing. I know it’s not exactly a benchmark, but I was expecting more people.
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>>154994740
I kind of want to see a Spider-Man VN in a similar vein where you have a different route for each heroine. Marvel should bite the bullet and offer it to a reputable VN writer in Japan.
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New thread? Someone bake!
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>>154999888

Nah just use this one
>>154980581
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>>154993922
The 1610 version, yes



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