Superman is BACK
>>155006943Zack Snyder sucks
>>155006943If they just gave him a camera and not let him write or direct id be ok with this
Why don't snyderbros ever talk about rebel moon?
>>155007018Yeah, why is that?
>>155007040Rebel moon
>>155006943White Trash.
>>155006975What are you talking about his movies look like fucking shit.
>>155007018Not every directors movie is going to be a winner, like people talk much more about Tarantino's Pulp Fiction or Kill Bill than Hateful 8. 300, Watchmen, and DOTD are all still well regarded by fans
>>155007018Or that crappy viking show that had an indian guy get railed in the ass?
>>155006975Snyder's movies look like dogshit when he is his own cinematographer. See: Army of the Dead.
>>155007601Did this nigger seriously just compare hateful eight to rebel moon?
>>155007601Hateful 8 was still a competent movie, Sucker Punch and Rebel Moon were outright terrible
>>155007601Dawn of the Dead is the least bad of the bunch, and it's still a middling remake of a much better movie. Any it's not as if it's particularly well shot or directed, it's just high concept as fuck and came out at a good time. Watchmen is legitimately bad, it has some good sequences but he completely misunderstood what Watchmen was about and made a horrible turd as a result. And 300 is incredibly forgettable.
>>155006943>shockeveryone with a brain could see this coming
>>155007787>Sucker Punchah...so you didn't get it I see
>>155007776>>155007787It's still not a classic. 11 years on basically long forgotten.
What a complete non-event. HE'S BACK...on the WB lot to host a screening of Excalibur.
>>155007936No one said it was a classic but there's a big difference between a director making an okay movie and one making an outright stinker.
>>155007866There was nothing to get, Sucker Punch was the epitome of style over substance
>>155007830Maybe Snyder and Gunn should work together again
>>155007787>Sucker PunchGod this was one of the worst movies I've seen.
>>155006943Snyder really shouldn't be allowed to direct any movies any more
>>155007975I can't imagine that Snyder is interested in directing anything he hasn't had a big part of writing.
>>155007598They look better than the trash direct by Gunn
>>155006943>>155006973I don't agree. But i also don't want a return of the Snyder haters who shit all over him for the crime of having Superman kill an irredeemably evil space fascist.
>>155007955the original question was why no one cares about Rebel Moon, not if it was good or not. It's not good, but a director not having all their movies being talked about on an equal level is common.
Things really aren't going well with James
>>155006943We're gonna get a shitty multiverse movie where Gunn-Superman crosses over with Snyder-Superman aren't we?
>>155006943Snyderbros truly are the most powerful fanbase. They got a director's cut people claimed didn't exist and a now have restored sunder back.
>>155008243Lolno.
>>155008615We're not because this article because this story is completely misleading if you actually read it. Snyder's "shock return" is that he hosted a screening of Excalibur at Warner Bros.
>>155007018Because Snyderbros don't actually give a shit about him as a director or the rest of his work, they just glommed onto Man of Steel as being this amazing work of art because they were all children, retards, or jeets, and thought babby's first Jesus allegory with DBZ fights was actually super deep, and when the rest of the world told them it was actually shit they dug their heels in and made the Snyderverse their entire personality.
>>155008643>most powerful fanbase.More likely the craziest fanbase. Full of nothing but dumdass bigots.
>>155007018You don't even need evidence of his abject failure to highlight if Zack was the supposed visionary to save superheroes and sci-fi media he would have already done so without DC properties.The lack of any notable success says enough.I'm no more a fan of Kirkman's styling than Snyder, but at least Invincible exists and has evident success.
>>155008615He's there because of his good relationship with two executives at Warner that lucked out of the chopping block last Summer. Apparently they do something like "movie nights" with a famous director to up their morale, and Snyder was mainly there because of said relationship and because WB is probably going to distribute his remake of Escape from New York
>>155008736Fag
>>155008358>Snyder hatersThere's no such thing. This is the default human position. Deviation from it is a rare mental disorder.
I still not understand the devotion this man gets.
>>155008358Fags like you only hate fascists for ending communism
>>155006943He's doing a screening of 1981 Excalibur on WB's lot. Chill.
>>155007866>2DEEP4UBy gum, it's been a while since I've seen this kind of snyderfaggotry. Brings me back.
>>155008014Why because you don't like him?
>>155008243Gunn at least knows what color is.
>>155008802It's almost like headlines are *gasp* misleading?!No! What? Who needs to read an article, especially one that wants you to jump to conclusions for clout and/or ragebait, and you have to fill in the blanks yourself?....People are fucking stupid.
>>155008735I just wanted a good Superman movie with Henry Cavill bro.
>>155008797You don’t even know what those words mean. Shut your bitch ass up
>>155008820Because it's objectively not possible to like him. Those who think they do are mistaken.
>>155008797You know most of the Snyderbots are right wing conservatives right?
>>155006943>pic unrelated
>>155008789I have noticed that most Snyder fans tend to be mostly attracted to his style because of his rule of cool and his writing style trying to be profound while being absolutely shallow. It is basically a combination that makes a lot of people be into this idea of what they like, aka heroes, not "lame" and "taken seriously". Which leads into a lot of insecurity (mainly that coming from the comments made at his movies) and the idea of being a contrarian to the popular opinion, which in turn became devotion to him for being "like them", you know? The director that opposes to those ideas, likes Heavy Metal and cool shit.
>>155008870And that's fine, so did I. I really liked Cavill as Superman and was excited by the idea of him coming back with his cameo at the end of Black Adam (that hierarchy certainly changed). It's fine to like the Snyderverse, I like the films well enough to own them physically myself, but the hardcore "restore the Snyderverse!" "Gunn is shit bring back Snyder!" people who insist that the Snyderverse is the absolute pinnacle of DC characters and that Snyder himself is some kind of cinematic messiah while never having seen any of his other work or holding it up at the same level of cinematic importance are either mentally deficient or brown and just being obstinate.If they really believed that Snyder was the best director in the world they would be touting Dawn of the Dead, Legend of the Guardians, and Sucker Punch as all equally masterful.
>>155007697WHAT?
>>155009141>It's fine to like the Snyderverse,It absolutely isn't, it's a moral wrong.
>>155009216>it's a moral wrong.No, it's fine to like the movies as their own contained little thing, Snyder is actually a very capable director in terms of visuals, so the films are at least interesting to look at, I mean shit 90% of 300's appeal is the visuals. The moral wrong is to insist that they are the definitive iteration of the characters and that there can be no other cinematic version after.
>>155007830>And 300 is incredibly forgettable.I could go to a bar tonight and make small talk about it and have a bunch of 30-50 something guys reminiscing about how cool it was. Normies love that movie.
>>155009313>No, it's fine to like the movies as their own contained little thing,No, they are a moral wrong. It is the duty of every human being to oppose them.>Snyder is actually a very capable director in terms of visualsIf you like colorless dogshit, sure.Kill yourself snyderfag. I don't mean that in a rude way, it's for your own good. You're hurting yourself.
>>155009446I know what that spacing is, fag.
>>155009446I'm not a Snyderfag, but you're talking like a Gunnfag.
>>155009491You know what Snyder's cum tastes like too. Kill yourself.
>>155009507Only a Snyderfag thinks the only two choices in the world are him or Gunn.
>>155009524I didn't say those were the only two choices (only a Sith deals in absolutes), I said you're talking LIKE a Gunnfag. If I were anything I'd say I was a Donnerfag because I still think the Donner films are the best cinematic iteration of Superman.
>>155009434A gay bar, maybe.
>>155009759You seem familiar with them.
>>155007018because you're on a comic forum retard.
pedoman is going to get flashpointed into a snyderverse restoration, its incredibly obvious at this point.
Why did he film Lex Luthor homosexually sticking a jolly rancher into an old man's mouth and then lick his own thumb while seductively looking back at the old man? And then there was the wee wee jar.
>>155007601didnt hateful 8 win a bunch of oscars
>>155009819>snyderverse restorationIf Gunn’s stuff keeps failing WB will just put everything DC that’s not Batman on the shelf for twenty years. If Snyder couldn’t meet expectations at the height of the super hero bubble he’s certainly not going to meet it now that it’s popped.
>>155009843No. Just one for the score.
>>155009862the super hero bubble popping is a myth, theatre chains were just damaged by the coof. Every marvel film with actual A listers in it made a billion, only the garbage they churned out trying force literal whos was a failure.
>>155009926Tell that to>The Marvels>Captain America Brave New World>Thunderbolts*>Fantastic Four First StepsPre-Endgame each of those movies would’ve come within striking distance of a billion or hit it. Regardless super hero movies and theaters themselves aren’t anywhere near as healthy as they were during Snyder’s reign and they failed to meet expectations then. They’d do even worse now.
>>155009995Marvels is three d-listers, falcon is a d-lister, thunderbolts are a bunch of nobodies. FF did ok for having to relaunch a turbo bomb and being completely unconnected to the rest of marvel, plus it was boring as fuck.
>>155009774You're the one who thinks he can go out and talk to a bunch of daddies about a super homoerotic movie tonight.
>>155010060>Marvels is 3 d-listersCaptain Marvel made a billion dollars. But, again, that’s really not the point. During an era where characters like Carol Danvers was pulling in a billion neither of Snyder’s DC movies starring the literal biggest super heroes of all time, one of which featured the very first time the two characters meet in a movie, failed to break a billion. There’s zero reason to think they’d do any better in today’s box office climate.
>>155010215you mentioned those three scrubfest because you know strange, panther, spider-man, and thor were still healthy. There is no todays bost office climate because spider-man is going to do 2 billion and so will doomsday.
>>155006943I'm not reading the NYPost, so I looked up another article from IGN:>Snyder was there to host a staff screening of the studio’s 1981 Arthurian classic Excalibur, which fans will remember was playing at the theater the night Bruce Wayne’s parents were murdered in Batman v Superman.>Snyder has previously said he would only ever make another DC film if it were an adaptation of Frank Miller’s The Dark Knight Returns.Complete nothingburger. Snyderverse remains dead.
>>155008870And I just wanted to see a really good gang bang that featured Henry, D&D Slade, Mamaoaman (in shape), Ezra (before he went crazy), with Batfleck in the corner, wearing his stupid cowl but otherwise butt-ass naked, teeny bat peen in his hands, with a big box of bat branded tissues, a big bottle of bat branded lube, while big massive tears come pouring down batfleck's face, with his mouth opening and closing, but making no sound and every ten minutes of so, during a lull in the orgy, the camara would pan to the batphone in batflecks hands that would be full of texts from Letojoeker
>>155007697That cartoon was great, and i wanted a second season of that.
>>155007974Style IS substance, you pleb.
>>155010311Those movies came out like four fucking years ago goddamn why is this board so fucking autistic about things in posts that aren’t even the main fucking point Jesus fuck. Spider-Man made two fucking billion because he’s fucking spider-man. Doomsday has the fucking X-Men and RDJ. Snyder’s fucking Batman movie couldn’t make a billion the same year that a fucking Captain America and THOR movie did. Why would WB think Snyder would do differently now when barely any movies are hitting a billion?
If you dislike Snyder's DC movies, I’m afraid your taste in films might not be the best.
>>155010366This.
>>155008358>But i also don't want a return of the Snyder haters who shit all over him for the crime of having Superman kill an irredeemably evil space fascist.We don't hate him for that. We hate him because he makes nothing but bad movies. He's the american version of Uwe Boll. Not a single good movie to his name.
Lots of crying and shitting in this thread.
>>155006943Please no
>>155007018Because it sucks
>>155007601Hateful 8 was good you faggot
>>155010921These two visually interesting (cherry-picked) parts mirroring each other, doesn't make up for the almost entirely abysmal film between them.This is the problem with Snyderfags, you're all so easily wowed by Snyders visuals that you don't realise you're inventing deeper meaning to attach to them because the film itself lacks actual depth. Everything in Batman V Superman is just characters paying lip-service to basic philosophical ideas, but the film never actually explores any of them.
>>155010921This the kinda shit that makes both MoS and BvS worse ngl, they have all of this good shit for themes and such, in between the middle of it there's just well, BvS.
>>155011488>These two visually interesting (cherry-picked) parts mirroring each other, doesn't make up for the almost entirely abysmal film between them.The film was great, though?
>>155011520It wasn't
>>155011538But it was.
Kino's back on the menu
>>155011520>The film was great, though?No, it was shit. That's why the Snyder-verse collapsed and had DC scrambling to try and salvage anything before just giving up and rebooting.
>>155011560>That's why the Snyder-verse collapsed and had DC scramblingThey’re scrambling because they tried to move away from Snyder’s influence. The further they stray, the worse things seem to get.
Imagine if Snyder did a Supergirl movie instead of Gun
>>155011549That was from Flash, another terrible movie.
>>155011606I prefer not
>>155006943no one is giving this hack money again. he's literally just a money sink. supergirl bombing is chump change to how much this guy has lost
>>155011587A) compare the box office numbers to the two Snyder movies to the box office numbers of the MCU movies coming out at the same time with much, much, much less popular characters than fucking Batman and SupermanB) it’s a continuous downward trend because Snyder and his cult completely poisoned the DC well. He single handedly made the entire franchise a fucking joke for a whole ass decade and anyone trying to right the ship is going to be fighting an uphill battle in the same way Batman Begins was after Batman & Robin. And there was nearly a goddamn decade between those two movies, WB is trying to make DC work immediately after Snyder butt-fucked it. You can be a retard and like Snyder’s garbage but posting shit like this and actively ignoring any sort of context makes you an insufferable faggot.
>>155011683No, it was from ZSJL.
>>155011724/thread
>>155011714This. In any other universe Avengers is just keeping the seat warm till Justice League. WB lost an incomprehensible amount of money giving that retard the keys to the kingdom.
>>155011724>it’s a continuous downward trend because Snyder and his cult completely poisoned the DC wellTop kek.
>>155011731An even worse movie
>>155011747You wish.
>>155011742If Snyder is so great, why doesn't his cult ever talk about Rebel Moon?
>>155009774>>155010099Just fuck already
>>155011782Why aren’t you mentioning any of these movies here?Kind dumb argument, isn't?
>>155007830>And 300 is incredibly forgettable.It's an flashy action movie with an incredibly shallow plot. That's what made it popular. It was cotton candy.No shit no one talks about it regularly after 15 years
>>155011587They moved away from Snyder because regardless of box office, the overall critical and audience reception was that the films were shit. Man of Steel made that much money because it was the first Superman film in almost a decade, Batman V Superman made that much because it was a movie with Batman and Superman at the same time. There is no way you are going to argue that Suicide Squad is a good film. Aquaman had no involvement from Snyder, Wonder Woman did, but so did WW84 and that was hot garbage.What that image actually shows is that Snyder fucked up the DC films so badly that people stopped going to see them, and that people were willing to give the new Superman a go because it was a reboot, only to immediately lose interest again because DC went the opposite direction.TL:DR high box office doesn't make a good film.
>>155011809>They moved away from Snyder because regardless of box officeRegardless, that's right. Because by doing so they never made any money again.
>>155011742>make an insanely hyped movie fucking awful that anyone with a more-than-double-digit-IQ agree is dogshit and in the running for one of the worst movies ever made>all of the immediate follow ups tankYeah, it’s a real mystery why anyone would blame Snyder for DC’s movie trouble.
>>155011742>Supergirl bombed because everyone hated Gunn’s Superman>the rest of the DCEU movies bombing has nothing to do with Batman vs Superman being awful
>>155011850Right, that's why all the current DCU projects are failing. Damn, that Snyder. So powerful.
>>155011869Yes, the very first movie featuring Batman and Superman, an event that’s been hyped up for nearly a century, being as fucking laughably awful as it was tanking the brand for the foreseeable future, especially so soon after, is not totally unrealistic. DC has a massive uphill battle after Snyder’s terrible movies and his cult making an embarrassment of themselves online for the last ten years in Justice League’s name. Anything DC that’s not Batman is going to need to look phenomenal or get absolutely perfect reviews for audiences to be interested. Superman making as much as it did is a fucking miracle.
>>155011742Unlike all the retards in this thread (myself included), normies have no clue who Snyder is. They just saw MoS or BvS and thought "this looks like ass" and stopped watching new Superman & Batman movies because of it. Simple as that.
>>155011923Of course, Gunn's Superman sucked because of MoS. Of course. How could i forget?
>>155011936>conveniently crops out source of headlineYou’re missing a pretty fucking integral part of the other anon’s post dipshit
>>155011828They weren't making money back then either.
>>155011802I'm just saying they act like they worship Snyder. Snyder goes on to make his own thing, films that are more his than his DCEU stuff. No one talks about them, his fans cling to his DC work. Move on, he did.
>>155011960The source didn't made things up, did he? >>155011968More so than what they're doing now.
>>155011982>The source didn't made things up, did he?Tell your sacred cow to work on his spell check, pajeet.
>>155011982but your chart is from all times, not from the time where Snyder was in charge
>>155012007Look at the movies in the chart.
SNYDER IS COMING
>>155012023Look at the dick in your ass.
>>155012051
>>155011802For one that’s a very cherry-picked picture, you really had to go into deep cuts on Gunn’s resume to find those instead of using something like GotG. Whereas with Snyder you’d be hard pressed to find any movie he was involved in with a RT score over 60%. Second, Gunn doesn’t have a fanatical, obnoxious group of “fans” who ruin any sort of conversation on a topic. We don’t have threads here on an almost daily basis dunking on Thor Love and Thunder for failing with the GotG without Gunn’s involvement. That seems to be a uniquely Snyder thing.
>>155011731Capekino.
>>155012065Keep saying it, you're sure to convince me that Snyder is good by bringing up how the new guy is bad. Surely there's no way I could hate both of them, but hate Snyder more. That's impossible.
>>155012082>For one that’s a very cherry-picked picture, you really had to go into deep cuts on Gunn’s resume to find those instead of using something like GotG.So you mean that anything aside from the MCU movies is... deep cut? Kek.
>>155012023Fucking Justice League only brought in 600 million the same month a third Thor movie grossed a billion.
>>155012108…yes? No one knew who James Gunn was until Guardians
>>155012108It means you are an annoying sperg
>>155012139>Fucking Justice League only brought in 600 millionYeah, the awful one directed by Whedon.
>>155012154>…yes? No one knew who James Gunn was until GuardiansThat says more about Gunn as a director, and not good things.
>>155012162Comparing a direct to streaming movie to a normal movie feels like cheating desu
>>155012065You post this like anyone has the same fanatical response to anyone shitting on Gunn like you do when someone shits on Snyder. I liked his Superman movie for the most part but his DC movie plan is retarded, especially the idea of having two Batman franchises running concurrently. Now I dare you to name one flaw in Snyder.
>>155012181More like you won't compare GotG to MoS because it kills your narrative
>>155012185You're right, it wouldn't be fair to the theatrical release.
>>155012218Does that mean it makes its budget back tho?
>>155012162>Yeah, the awful one directed by WhedonOnly terminally online people like us knew about any of that shit. Zack Snyder was the only listed director on the movie and everyone fucking hated Batman v Superman so no one came out for Justice League.
>>155011803>N-no, you don't understand, the fact that it's bland cgi action slop is what makes it *good* actually! It was supposed to leave your brain the instant the credits started rolling!
>>155012218No one outside of the same sort of loser who’d be all in on the #releasethesnydercut still buys DVDs
>>155012228The whole Snydercut thing was pretty mainstream, and everyone knew about WB interfering with the movie and Whedon being brought in. Even then, all you needed was to see it for yourself.
>>155011802Look I can make cherry-picked images too!
>>155012162>>155012185>>155012218>>155012225>>155012247>Money money money moneyI don't fucking CAAAAAAAAARE the story and visuals are TERRIBLE, that's ALL THAT MATTERS.
>>155012247They're certainly not buying TSS DVDs, that for sure.
Ignoring the spergs and the snydertards, did the ZSJL makes its budget back or not?
>>155012307It's a direct to streaming movie anon, what do you think?
>>155011828>Gunn's Superman is the first outing for the universe>Runs for 2 hours and achieves a 7.0>Zack Snyder's Justice League is the culmination of Snyder's whole vision (or do you REALLY want to include The Flash?), that took years of Twitter bitching and harassment, and a global pandemic making WB desperate enough for income from HBO Max that they put out a 4 hour film.>Only scores 0.9 points higherYeah that's a real win there buddy.
>>155012307Who knows, but WB still sell tons of merch based on it.
>>155012307>MONEY MONEY MONEYKILL YOURSELF, MOISHE. YES, IT DIDN'T MAKE THE MONEY BACK, OF COURSE IT DIDN'T MAKE THE MONEY BACK.BECAUSE IT LOOKSLIKEASSIT'S STORYISASSWHO FUCKING CARES ABOUT THE MONEY???????
>>155010849Style without anything else backing it is nothing, the creative equivalent of a facade. Sure it might look pretty but it serves no purpose.
>>155012263Nobody was wanting to see Justice League after the clusterfuck that was BvS. Normies were aware of reshoots but WB and Snyder framed it as Snyder left due to his daughter an hero’ing and Whedon’s involvement was minimal, the extent of the differences weren’t widely reported until Snyder started crying about his cut online.
>>155008358Writing a Superman story where he kills a space facist is retarded, you can control the story direction and take him wherever you want yet you insist on doing that? For what purpose?
>>155012330>still sell tons of merch based on it.>based on this article about a literal-who company that no one’s ever heard of that probably only made like ten of the Cavill Superman dolls
>>155010454>Ezra (before he went crazy),Ezra was always an ugly faggot that only got the role because he 100% sucked some producer's dick at one point. Same for Gal Gadot.
>>155012435>Same for Gal Gadothow desperate are these producers that they'd let that mohel-spawn near their schwinkie?
>>155012435Ezra Miller’s casting is probably the most baffling decision I’ve ever seen in film history, even more than Jesse Eisenberg as Luthor. Barry Allen is a blonde, conservative adult with a job as a police scientist. Why the fuck would you cast an Asian looking spergy twink?
So when do we all talk about this?
>>155012394>Style without anything else backingFilm is a visual language where style is, indeed, the substance. The way you choose to tell a story is meaningful in itself.
>>155012478You mean the movie that was rewritten because Gunn’s ideas were considered really bad?
>>155012432More than the dozens of Krypto merch were left unsold.
>>155012340may as well start posting pics of ponies pooping you sperg
>>155012532I wanna see the dog scene, honestly. A more talented director would've pulled it off.
>>155012549I don't wanna get banned, I want YOU fuckwits banned. Go to >>>/biz/ if you wanna talk box office, because it's retarded to talk about it on here.
>>155012563Live action shouldn't be considered co either but here we are
>>155012584ThisSnyder, Gunn and other live action shit should be discussed on >>>/tv/, not here
>>155012584>There's already piss on the lawn, who cares if I shit on it either?I wish Live Action adaptations would be restricted to /tv/, but that's too big an issue to fight. I pick my battles, and it's easier to shit on you money obsessed morons.
>>155012605But /tv/ is full of Snydertards that make fun of Gunn, the DCU, and specially me.
>>155012523You use the visuals to tell a *story* you're not really telling a story if you just use it as the thinnest pretext imaginable to make what is essentially a bunch of disconnected glorified music videos. And it's not even that fucking good looking either, this shit is no Thief and the Cobbler and it's retarded to act as if it is. The animated shorts used to market the movie had a more interesting story going on to them and looked better than the actual movie.
>>155012619Bring MCU to the conversation and sneedertards disappear
>>155006973fpbp
>>155012634>essentially a bunch of disconnected glorified music videos.Just say the movie was too hard to follow or understand, bro. There is no shame in admitting that. You're anonymous here, after all.
>>155006973thread should've ended here
>>155012619And? Who cares? Those retards think BvS was a flawless movie.
>they said it would never happen>they said we had to accept the gunnslop
>>155012672Meds.
>>155012663I'm starting to think it's actually Snyder making threads about how great his movies are
>>155012652Are you talking about Sucker Punch? Have we really gotten so far into clown world that idiots are now trying to say fucking Sucker Punch was 2deep4u? Snyder admitted the plot took a backseat to the random-ass high concept action scenes
>>155012688Dubs confirm.
>>155012652You can understand something and still not like it, Sucker Punch had the subtlety of a gorilla swinging a sledgehammer to the point it outright stated what it meant to represent so it's not like there was anything to miss.Also this was more interesting than anything in the entire movie. Less is more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIgBoHr18-I
>>155012696>Snyder admitted the plot took a backseat to the random-ass high concept action scenesPost the source.
>>155007601>Watchmen>well regardedHe killed millions...
>>155012672Has anything in Hollywood history come close to this level of embarrassment?
I do think even Snyder didn't understand Suckerpunch
>>155012722That's stupid.
>>155012719A movie so bad it needed to be 4 hours to still be shitIt's kind of impressive
I do think snyderfags are more annoying than tarantinofags
>>155012736Are Tarantinofags even that vocal? Beyond people generally agreeing he's solid I don't see many people talking about him.
>>155012722I was trying to find the source for what >>155012696 said, and I found another article where he's claiming he "didn't go far enough" because apparently the movie full of teenage girls dancing around in scantily clad outfits is actually a SATIRE of exploitation movies.https://screenrant.com/sucker-punch-movie-mistakes-zack-snyder-response/>>155012730Well, he's a stupid guy.
>>155012746Spielbergfags are more annoying but less vocal
>>155012748If you can't see the satire in that movie, the issue is entirely with you.
>>155012746The most vocal defenders of Tarantino are the people who work with him or the man himself. It's actually similar to Snyder in that way, but the difference is that Tarantino is actually talented with his visuals, even if they're all ripoffs of other peoples' works - at least they look good, and work with the stories he's interested in telling. You can't say that about Snyder's dreadful body of work.
>>155012748He really isn't that deep
>>155012748He's a very stupid guy
>>155012773Tarantino gets a pass from me for normalizing foot fetishes
>>155012771It was not a good satire man
>>155012771I'll let the argument I linked rebut for me: "If the "misreading" of Sucker Punch is such a widespread issue, this would seemingly indicate that there are shortcomings in the filmmaking. If a filmmaker's messages aren't clearly received, is this the fault of audiences or of the filmmaker?">>155012781Alan Moore probably loved that Snyder adapted Watchmen because Moore hates his fans, and knows an idiot like this completely misunderstanding his message would piss people off even more.
>>155012771How is just playing the thing you're meant to be satirizing completely straight meant to be satire?
>>155012788>If a filmmaker's messages aren't clearly received, is this the fault of audiences or of the filmmaker?"People are retarded. See Starship Troopers
>>155012792>Alan Moore probably loved that Snyder adapted Watchmen Now you are being retarded on purpose
>>155012806Suckerpunch wasn't a good satire my nigerian friend
>>155008802Honestly good on him.
>>155012816You say so.
>>155012807Did you stop reading the sentence right there? Or are you being retarded on accident, like every other day? Moore has disowned all the capeshit he ever made because he found the fanbase was full of mouthbreathers, and then an even bigger idiot in Snyder comes along and makes something to send them into a hissy fit. He saw the trailer, laughed, and went back to writing Jerusalem or whatever he does these days.
>>155009141>It's fine to like the SnyderverseLet's not go crazy.
>>155012824If you understood it then you can easily explain how it's actually satire and not just the actual thing.
>>155012824No, it really wasn't. Good satires are subtle and Snyder is as subtle as a hammer.
>>155012833See how people that hate Snyder are so dumb?
>>155008243They don't actually.
>>155012833>Moore has disowned all the capeshit he ever made because he found the fanbase was full of mouthbreathers,He disowned it because he got fucked over by the publishers and got bitter over the industry in general
>>155012833>>155012855You are still being retarded on purpose
>>155012846But aren't you niggas complaining that he played too straight and not as a satire? Pick a lane.
>>155012867Try again, saar.
>>155012855Kek.
>>155012833You so full of shit man Moore disowned Watchmen because DC fucked him with the rights of the book
>>155012884Looks better than the digital snap-zooms Snyder loves to put in all his stupid action scenes.
>>155012908
>>155012918Looks better than his version of Steppenwolf.
>>155012938It really doesn't.
>>155012947It really, Really does.
>>155012884>>155012918These are probably the weakest shots in Gunn’s movie but is still miles better than that god awful Doomsday fight in BvS
>>155012960god I hate greebleslop so fucking much
>>155012418For the purpose of writing a version of Superman that only exists in his mind, and trying to push that to be the most widely accepted one.MoS is the OMD of DC films, and Snyder is as bad as Joe Quesada. However unlike OMD, it got reversed after only a few years.
>>155012960Let me guess, you prefer the first version? I’m guessing you also enjoyed the Flash movie, since it had the same cinematographer and VFX team as the Superman movie. No accounting for taste.
>>155012976Still better than the entire snyderverse
>>155012976No, I hate them both because neither looks like the character from the comics.Fucking Ares in Wonder Woman looked more like Steppenwolf.
>>155012960>better than that god awful Doomsday fight in BvSNever.
>>155013000Replied to the wrong post again, saar.
>>155012998That also isn't how Steppenwolf used to look either, casual fag.
>>155013006Maybe he's arguing with himself?
>>155013006Did i? I refuse to believe there is more than one anon with the same god awful shit taste.
>>155013010Hey, whatever helps this thread reach the post limit faster so it can finally fall off page 10.
>>155011587things were unironically better in 2015.
>>155012998Honestly, who gives a fuck about Steppenwolf? It was retarded to make him a "miniboss" in the New 52, it was retarded to do the same thing for the movie. The entire appeal of Apokolips is that Darkseid has this huge roster of memorable underlings yet they go with the most literal who of all of them? Also they don't use multiple characters as the villains in a fucking Justice League movie?
>>155013019>talks about god awful shit taste>posts a webm from the Knightmare sequencelul>>155013026>Steppenwolf looks good>>No he doesn't.>Well it doesn't matter if he looks good!lul
>>155007601>Hateful 8Absolute kino
>>155008735Christfags are so delusional, it's genuinely unhealthy for them to continue to exist in society. Little things like this are just indicative of the deeper root of the issue.>>155008870Having actually watched MoS, I thought Cavill's performance of the character was really genuine. It's just the world he got stuck in (Snyder's world) forced him to react in ways that pushed him into more and more awkward situations. It's a real idiotball method of writing, but it lets Cavill prove he has the talent for the role. Shame he didn't wanna come back for the Gunnverse version, since he's a Snyder lickspittle IRL.
>>155013036You're replying to different people retard. I think both designs look like shit AND it was retarded to make Steppenwolf the main villain for anything. He's a lackey character, he only works when you have the rest of Apokolips with him. Also the green design is best.
>>155013036The sequence with Snyder's Steppenwolf battling the Amazons was better than anything in Gunn's Superman, which looked visually terrible in every single moment. Superman was an outright ugly movie, feeling cheaply made despite its nearly $300 million budget.
>>155013070>You're replying to different peopleI never indicated that I thought that to be the case, but sorry you got caught in the crossfire because I misread the intent of your post. I agree with your assessment 100%, and looking at the other designs on the DC wiki I also agree with the best costume for him (assuming you mean this one).>>155013085I don't even remember that scene, lemme rewatch it real quick.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwLAmlrkWyYAh, now I see why I don't remember it: it's only remarkable in how bad it looks. You're seriously trying to say this was better? Delusional.
>>155013117>You're seriously trying to say this was better? Delusional.Yes. 100%
>>155008737>The lack of any notable success says enough.And the lack of any continuation to the DOA franchise says more than enough.
>>155013136>NOOOO MY SUPERMAN CAN'T USE HIS POWERS IN CREATIVE WAYS, HE'S GOTTA SNAP NECKS AND DO ENORMOUS COLLATERAL DAMAGE.I pity you.
>>155008763>WB is probably going to distribute his remake of Escape from New YorkWoof, as if they're not already down in the hole enough as it is.
>>155013160The problem isn’t him using his powers creatively, and you know it. It’s that the entire sequence looks awful and cheaply made. If you told me this was some AI video made by a jeet on YouTube, I’d believe it.
>>155008988Underrated post.
>>155013178>If you told me this was some AI video made by a jeet on YouTube, I’d believe it.You'd believe anything, you brainlet.
>>155013188When the movie looks this bad? Yes.What’s with all the camera spinning in this movie? Did they think they were making a sequel to Spy Kids 3-D: Game Over?
>>155009141>If they really believed that Snyder was the best director in the world they would be touting Dawn of the Dead, Legend of the Guardians, and Sucker Punch as all equally masterful.Unfortunately they do, the sheep.
>>155013231It's a creative dynamic that accentuates the motion of the scene, in both cases. Same as the constant panning shots inside Lex's command room, to match the motion of him pacing back and forth between the monitors as he directs Ultraman's movements.When Snyder shoots an action scene, he shoots it the same way every time and it always looks as bland as ever. I'd post examples, but I'm not as obsessed as you are to save webms of movies I don't like to my PC.
>>155009216>>155009446blatant falseflag is blatant. snyder sucking doesn't make him morally repugnant, just aesthetically.
>>155009828I blame the jolly rancher more on Eisenberg than Snyder, but you mentioning the pee jar reminded me that it's stupid for the judge to not immediately call out Luthor for his meddling before the bomb goes off. Like she just sits there mouth agape, and if she had said ANYTHING it would've undermined the entire scrip- I mean, Lex's entire scheme.
>>155013301Tee bee eff Snyder used his daughter’s suicide as a cover for getting shitcanned off Justice League and then essentially acted like that never happened when he was bitching about his cut for years after, that doesn’t exactly sound like a morally sound individual. Not, like, Bryan singer bad but still pretty scummy.
>>155013341I don't like bringing Snyder's daughter into things, it feels mean.
>>155009920Getting nominated is certainly a measure of distinction to itself. How many Oscar noms does Snyder have? Oh, none? The only distinctions he's ever gotten at that show are when his cult uses twitterbots to spam his way to a victory?>https://web.archive.org/web/20230202044819/https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/05/zack-snyders-oscars-fan-wins-may-have-been-rigged-by-botsWell butter my biscuit and call me supper, what a shock.
>>155013282>It's a creative dynamic that accentuates the motion of the sceneBy making it look like absolute ass?
>>155013335>Like she just sits there mouth agape, and if she had said ANYTHING it would've undermined the entire scrip- I mean, Lex's entire scheme.Reminder.
>>155013341>Tee bee eff Snyder used his daughter’s suicide as a cover for getting shitcanned off Justice LeagueThat wasn't him, but WB execs so they wouldn't be seen negatively, as firing him from his job. But at least you agree that WB execs acted as jerks.
>>155013356I agree, that’s why I think it was scummy of him to claim he was stepping back from Justice League to deal with it and then like a year later just start bitching about WB firing him.
>>155013420He still went along with it, he could’ve been a decent human being and refuse but he didn’t.
>>155013377>The only distinctions he's ever gotten at that show are when his cult uses twitterbots to spam his way to a victory?
>>155013402>this autist againIt’s reassuring to know that there really is just one snyderfag on this board who just won’t shut the fuck up
>>155013383You keep saying that without actually explaining why you think it looks like ass.>It's self-evident.Well I think it's self-evident that it looks good. What now? Explain your position or admit you've constructed your argument on a faulty foundation.>>155013421He has a right to bitch about his flick being stolen from him and handed off to another even worse hack director who doesn't understand his vision (flawed though it may be) at all. I personally wish he had been allowed to see it through to the end, so the SnyderCut wouldn't even exist within the public consciousness.>>155013434Be a decent human being... by focusing on his capeshit schlock over seeing his daughter lain to rest? You sound like a (((WB Executive))) yourself, bud.
>>155013421He never claimed anything, WB execs did. Why say with such certainty about things you've no clue about? And then try to act morally superior about it?>>155013434Why remain in a thankless job when he is grieving?
>>155013459>You keep saying that without actually explaining why you think it looks like ass.The over saturation, the cheap VFX, the god-awful lenses, the blinding lens flare, and so on. It looks fucking awful. This and The Flash looked awful.
>>155010921So you love the Prequels too, right? You love Jar Jar Binks & Pod Racing?
>>155013495I do like the prequels, somewhat, yes.
>>155013459>Be a decent human being... by focusing on his capeshit schlock over seeing his daughter lain to rest?By not using his daughter’s suicide to cover for being shitcanned. She died six months before him getting fired, I have no doubt he was still grieving but during all of the “#releasethesnydercut” hooey he never once mentioned that he stepped away because he was grieving, just that WB screwed him
>>155013498The prequels were one solid movie streched out
>>155013495Hate jar jar binks, love pod racing, qui gon Jin, darth maul, general grievous, dooku, the clones and the droids, all that shit
>>155013462Yes he did, in the press releases he was quoted. Even if he didn’t what would’ve stopped him from saying “WB fired me from this movie because they want a movie that emulates the MCU and I didn’t want to do that and them using my daughter’s death as a means to save face is despicable”?>NDAsI dunno about you but no amount of money would make me use a family member’s death, especially one as tragic as suicide, to save face for corporate suits fuck up
>>155013487>The over saturation, the cheap VFX, the god-awful lenses, the blinding lens flare, and so on.Yes, I do hate all that in Snyder's crap flicks. Don't see what that has to do with Superman 2025.>>155013499I didn't say grieving, that was the other guy. I said "lain to rest" as in the actual process of coordinating a funeral. You're pulling that "six months later" out of your ass because you're remembering the REPORTING of his dismissal, not the dismissal itself. And yeah, WB explicitly screwed him.>The company also did not opt to delay the film's release despite the fact that there had been numerous problems in post-production, so that the executives would receive their cash bonuses before the company's merger with AT&T.I will shit on this man's talents all day, but don't drag his dead daughter, who had NOTHING to do with this trash heap nor the controversy surrounding it, through the mud.
>>155013499>By not using his daughter’s suicide to cover for being shitcanned.Here are his words>I just was kind of done with it. I was in this place of [knowing] my family needs me more than this bullshit, and I just need to honor them and do the best I can to heal that world. I had no energy to fight [the studio], and fight for [the movie]. Literally, zero energy for that. I really think that’s the main thing. I think there’s a different world where I stayed and kind of tried. And I’m sure I could have . . . because every movie is a fight, right? I was used to that. But I just did not have the [energy]. There was no fight in me. I had been beaten by what was going on in my life and I just didn’t want to, I didn’t care to . . . that was kind of where I was.Then WB execs gave the statement that made look nice, that Zack was voluntarily stepping away (which wasn't entirely true), and that was it.
>>155006943What the fuck does this have to do with /co/?
>>155011294>He's the american version of Uwe Boll.oh damn, does that mean his Postal movie sucks? i've had it in my collection for ages but haven't watched it yet because I wanna play the game first.
>>155013560Nothing, but I'm guessing it's just some Snyder fan that misses his DC movies so much he had to cry about everything else
>>155013551>I will shit on this man's talents all day, but don't drag his dead daughter, who had NOTHING to do with this trash heap nor the controversy surrounding it, through the mudI’m not the one who used the kid’s death to either cover for my firing or stood by and said nothing as a bunch of studio execs used her death to cover their ineptitude.
>>155013560That's what I've been saying, yeah.>>155013581Kill yourself, asswipe. I'm done engaging seriously with your shitposts.
>>155006943I don't see the purpose of bringin Zack Snyder back. Is he going to restart the DCEU? Is he going to continue from Aquaman 2 or is he going to ignore everything after his JL? Is he going to keep using the same actors that were part of his Snyderverse? Is he he going to do an earth-2 while Gunn DCU is earth-1? Is he even going to adress why the characters are so fucking old compared to when they first appeared?
the snyderverse wasn't that bad desu
>>155013592If you read the article, he's not coming back. Headline sensationalism turns into thread sensationalism turns into 285 posts of people jerking eachother around over nothing.
>>155013593It was terribly rushed
>>155013593No, it was everything bad about the world. i hate it. I hate him. I hate his fans.
>>155013608And yet somehow also moved at a snail's pace, since it took him ages to try and set up his Darkseid movie and nothing ever came of it.
>>155013593>MosMid honestly, Supes 25 was better.>BvSAwful.>WWReally good. >SSBad. >Aquaman Good. >ZSJLBetter than JWJL.
>>155013608yeah it was, but it's still nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be
>>155013620>Darkseid movieYou know what I'd like to see? I wanna see someone like Robert Eggers do an adaptation of Fourth World that treats it like its own thing completely separate from the rest of DC.
>>155013629>Mid honestly, Supes 25 was better.You can't possibly believe this.
>>155013620But he set up Darkseid by the third movie, no?
>>155013642It is. Gunn understands the character better than Snyder.
>>155013652He really doesn't.
I will say it and keep right on saying it - Snyder had the right idea. The dumbass bean-counters bought into what was almost assuredly “Disninformation” about how much money a Batman/Superman movie would make and went into fucking panic mode when it didn’t meet their bullshit projections.Every time you start a new continuity with a character, the public knows it, even if they don’t actively follow the BTS of studios and productions. They see a new actor, they assume a new story, a new take on the character. Batman Begins didn’t exactly hit it out of the park in terms of box office, neither did the first Iron Man. Even after having already been introduced in a previous MCU movie, Spider-man: Homecoming still fell far short of a billion. They had a storyline developing, momentum growing, and rather than trusting in the public’s willingness/hunger for a story, they pussied out like the greedy, short-sighted, spineless chickenshits they are.
>>155013659>crashout and apt name to what you do everytime you spam the same inane pics over and over when you get triggered
>>155013686You're the one crashing out right now.
>>155013689I'm not the one posting pics as a coping mechanism. If you want to debate, do it as an adult then.
>>155013659For a comparison like this, I think you have to keep in mind that Snyder's Clark was raised in an emotionally abusive home by a father who was scared to death of his alien son, leading to a version of Clark that has to constantly reign in any sort of emotional response because he thinks the entire world is afraid of him, while Gunn's Clark never had a death in the family and so he takes the little things a lot more seriously from not having the full weight of mortality impressed upon him at an early age.Also, Supershit was explicitly something Lex cooked up and had his intelligent monkeys spam online to target Superman in mental warfare, meanwhile whatever the papers were saying about Clark in the Snyderverse never get revisited because they only matter for that one scene.
>>155013704I post pics because i know they'll easily trigger someone.
>>155013659>SupershitDo you edit these pictures yourself?
Oh right, the bump limit is 500 now. Shit, we gotta wait 200 more posts before this godawful thread can finally die.
>>155013681BvS bombed man I don't know why you fags are in denial about this
>>155013717Nope, that was in the movie.You see, in Peacemaker they joke about Superman being into shit, so Gunn thought it would a genius move to reference that bit in the Superman movie itself. Gunn just love making jokes about shit. See Guardians of the Galaxy where Drax kept talking about long turds.
>>155013727>Thinking someone this autistic won't just make another Especially if they're getting replies
>>155013555Really when you think about it the entire Snyder timeline is pretty fucked >hire Zack Snyder to shoot the Superman reboot headed by Chris Nolan, taking a chance considering Snyder already sacked the Watchmen movie and lost a ton on Sucker Punch>Man of Steel underperforms and has the biggest second weekend drop in box office history, the majority of issues people have with the movie are the things Snyder added>despite this hire Snyder to direct the sequel that will set up their MCU rival and effectively give him free reign and let him double down on the things people hated about Man of Steel>again, despite Man of Steel failing to meet expectations not only let Snyder head the sequel but let him shoot the follow up to the sequel, Justice League, before the sequel even hits theaters>to absolutely no one’s surprise the sequel, Batman vs Superman, comes out and everyone hates it>WB panics but let’s Snyder continue making Justice League but asks for some concessions>Snyder refuses and continues to hand in a movie that WB specifically isn’t asking for>WB realizing they have a massive bomb on their hands finally give Snyder his walking papers but instead of announcing he was fired announce he had to leave due to personal reasons>WB hires Joss Whedon to try and salvage what’s already shot but to no one’s surprise Justice League releases to a critical and box office thud>Snyder seethes on social media about his cut of Justice League for years, whipping up a group of retards who harass WB for several years straight>COVID-19 hits right as WB is putting out their streamer, thanks to everything being shut down they have nothing to put on it>the Snyder cut is just sitting there so WB relents and gives Snyder another hundred million to finish the movie>all they ask is Snyder not add any sort of sequel bait>Snyder adds sequel bait >WB releases it anyway>doesn’t move the needle at all on WB’s steamer
>>155013715So you are a trollGot it
>>155013737Oh, so you do. I was just wondering
>>155013707>meanwhile whatever the papers were saying about Clark in the Snyderverse never get revisited because they only matter for that one scene.They were also part of Lex's mind games, you know. No super-intelligent monkeys in some top-secret black hole facility that’s obvious to everyone because they could see people come and go from were necessary.
>>155013751No, you're just an easily triggered faggot, so it is entertaining to post these pics along with my posts just to see you go off on them.
>>155013681>Every time you start a new continuity with a character, the public knows itThat’s not at all true. When Batman Begins came out normies were confused why Joker didn’t kill Batman’s parents. >they see a new actor, they assume a new storyThat’s not true either, nobody thought the Roger Moore James Bond was any different from the Sean Connery one until autists started spreading the retarded “James bond is a code name” nonsense theory
>>155013766You hear of this great new invention called Commas? They let you format a sentence so you can restructure its order while still maintaining legibility. Lemme show you.>No super-intelligent monkeys, in some top-secret black hole facility that’s obvious to everyone because they could see people come and go from, were necessary.Also, sure the papers were part of Lex's mindgames, that's easy to say when it ends up not mattering after that scene.
>>155013749Why do you feel the need to lie so much?
>>155013737Would have been fun see Peacemaker interacting with Cavill Supes>''I have read in forums that you aliens love scheiße''>*Glares into the distance while trying to not look annoyed*
>>155013792>The rest of his films at WV were very profitable. Very.Was (((Silverman))) one of the executives who got that big payday prior to the AT&T merger?
>>155013789>that's easy to say when it ends up not mattering after that scene.Like the whole plot of Superman, where people went back to love him again at the drop of a hat despite the message from his parents being proven to be real?
>>155013727post porn anon, this thread deserves to be delete
>>155013803Yes.
>>155013806Because he refuted his parents' message instead of pretending it didn't matter.>>155013813Like I already said, I don't wanna catch a ban on a stupid thread like this. If someone else wants to be an hero, go ahead.>>155013816Unsurprising.
>>155013792If this was true why did they sack him and create major issues on Justice League?
>>155013777you are the only one who posts those retarded pics, no one else does it, that shoud tell you something
>>155013826Because they were dumb.
>>155013824>Because he refuted his parents' message instead of pretending it didn't matter.And the general public became aware of this how...?
>>155013831They were greedy, capeshit back then was making bank and Snyder couldn't get BvS to deliver a billion, so they got rid of him.
>>155013840I’m gonna guess saving all their lives from Lex Luthor tearing the city apart probably helped
>>155013868What Mister Terrific had to do with Superman?
>>155013863In their defense at that time in history the first movie featuring Batman and Superman together should’ve been a slam dunk billion and you would’ve had to been actively retarded to keep that from happening
>>155013880?! So because Superman had help in saving everyone that negates Superman saving everyone? So Superman’s sacrifice in BvS didn’t count because he had help from Batman and Wonder Woman?
>>155013908Yes.
