It just works.
They owe each other sex.
No one on youtube (the only platform that matters) is talking about this ship so its sunk
>>155008568Most of the discussion about them outside of /co/ is about them as parallels OR criticizing Jean for being a murderous lip rapist
Man I might have to see this movie after all, if only to see why all the summerfags keep spamming the ship.
>>155008549Jean needs to let Peter (and Michelle) rape her so they are even!
>>155008594The movie portrays them as rivals.She kisses him one time but it's while she's possessing MJ and she's doing it to make him feel like shitThe Japanese version of the movie oddly ends on a love song themed around Peter and JeanThere isn't really a sign that it will actually be romantic going forward but the potential is niceMost of the shippers are Japanese , probably because of the music
>>155008534Where does that 3d Jean come from?
Purple Man would be an amazing Jean Grey rival or antagonist. He represents a dark mirror to this Jean who wants to turn a new leaf
>>155008620>Purple Man>literally a man who is purple, named "Purple Man"What is this? FNAF?
>>155008617Iron Man Armored Adventures
>>155008592Almost all of the Japanese fanart of this movie looks like it's about some romance anime starring Peter and Jean
>>155008616What rivals? shes just a standard enemy. No different from all the mooks in the last movie.
Ultimate Friendly Neighborhood, and Amazing Friends all replace Spider-man's actual friend group with super heroes who he isn't normally associated with.
>>155008631The Jessica Jones show thought it was ridiculous too so they used his last name Killgrave (he is Zebediah Killgrave) as his villain name.And while his ability is similar to Jean's, his is biochemical so Peter may not be immune to him. Would be fun if he causes a string of body hijacking crimes and Peter thinks its Jean again, so he goes to try to apprehend her only to fall into Killgraves' spell
>>155008620I presume she's referring to Jean whos probably immune to his mind control schtick?
Why isn't he poor anymore?
She's a mind rapist.
>>155008534Those are four different cartoons
She is so hot. I want a telepathic yandere bpd girlfriend!>>155008568I thought the biggest public discourse platform was xhitter
It's mandated by law that Peter must fill Jean with AT LEAST 3 spider-babies
tthis brat needs correction
>>155008658"Rival" the way Japanese use it.Which is basically a villain who turns good after the power of friendship and is constantly compared to you
>>155008658Disney Plus has a documentary where the creator of Naruto briefly appears and explains that Spider Man was his inspiration for how he does antagonists. The most notable Naruto antagonist being Sasuke. So it's in people's heads via Disney
>>155008739Spider will unleash his arachnid stamina in Jean
>>155008722>She is so hot. I want a telepathic yandere bpd girlfriend!Peter....
>>155008722should be a third "Soaked" pointing right at her crotch
>>155008698Used what little money he had to launch a Spider-Man merchandise empire that exploded overnight.and yes, they do sell Spidey branded condoms and tampons
>>155008616>The cope spiderman goes to rescue her, walks her back from the brink, says he's there for her after willingly opening his mind to meet his dead aunt so she can have closure about her murdered sister and real human connection, then takes a .50bmg to the chest to save her life. And all he wants to know is if she's ok at the end. The movie is a billion dollar setup to only one payoff
>>155008658Jean sees it as a game up until she gets caught by damage control. She acts like they are doing a fun challenge. On rewatch its kind of weird that she's acting like this while believing her sister is kidnapped. She wastes time just to toy with Peter
>>155008722>Living on the streets with the same boots for years>Unable to take a proper bath at times>Peter takes the boots off for herIMAGINE THE SMELL! Ponder the aroma!
>liking redheads>loving redheads>dicking redheadsY'all are gonna earn your fates, that's all I'll say.
>>155008760so just like every other mook in the last movie?
>>155008822They are not going to make Spider Man marry fucking JEAN GREY
>>155008698Its basically impossible to be poor as a smart guy with internet access post 2010. Back in the 80s and 90s where most other directors were taking their inspiration from there were a lot of downtrodden nerds who didn't make it because they couldn't fit in with society and were siloed into underfunded sciences or something
>>155008617She was in an episode of Iron Man Armored Adventures. Magneto was also in the episode.
>>155008698he works with the feds
>>155008903....without Cyclops being in attendance at the wedding!
>>155008903Why not? because the comics didn't do it?
>>155008920KBC
>>155008534Crackships are better when they are never made real.
>>155008903
Tom is dating Zendaya she'll never let him kiss someone else.
a neat idea: jean finding out tobeyman got got during the incursions by wolverine and dp
>>155008875AlmostA key part of weeb rivals is being similarly aged Harry from the original trilogy qualifiesFlint almost qualifies. In fact he fits every trope except he's too old and almost too good
>>155008995Doesn't she kiss other boy actors in other movies she's in?Typical woman behavior, "rules for thee not for me"
>>155008787Fuck she's so hot. I want Peter to unleash half a decade of pent-up sexual aggression and loneliness into Jean's virgin mutant pussy. It'll start extra rough because of his arachnid mode, but it becomes more and more tender and soft as it goes as he focuses on making sure she has a good time. Her psychic powers will ensure both of them are intimately connected the entire time, sharing every thought and sensation with one another. Nobody will know when Peter begins and when Jean ends. Eventually his webshooter will get super sticky in her V-max, and when she locks her legs tightly around him and their fingers intertwine, he'll be whispering low in her ear that she'll never be alone again before he stares into her joyful, teary eyes with the warmest smile he's ever had before giving her the deepest kiss he's given anyone, his tongue writhing in her mouth like a coked up snake as they simultaneously climax and they start the process of welcoming new life into the world.
>>155008920>>155008952Scottie doesnt know, tho
>>155009004Hot! Make the spiders gangbang Jean
>jean saw this and said "fuck being a terrorist"
>>155008875Anime rivals are like "IM YOU BUT MY LIFE SUCKS SO IM A BAD GUY"Which is most spider man villains and this is because the entire anime rival trope is inspired by Spider-man villains
>>155008903>you really think they're going to do a protracted wedding to Jesn then sell that wedding to the devil? No I think they're going to do something good instead. Like an entire cinematic run where Spider-Man is happy and his gf is interesting. I expect and look forward to suicides in the marvel comics basement over it.
>>155008698He's a dumpster diverReally the question is how does he have money to get little caesars delivered
>>155009069I wonder how Naruto fans feel about the fact that Naruto rivals are based on the Raimi movies
>>155008568Twitter seems to like it
>>155008832Definitely fitting for Jean
>>155008845>no smelly jean gf that teases you with her feetit hurts
its only because she looks like MJ. She has red hair. He's a gingersnapper.
>>155008568Agreed, it seems the troondaya bots are hard at it discussing how Jean is a rapist and mass murderer likehttps://youtu.be/ZLQ5RD4H1Ggand calling for the death of all mutants
>>155009121Anon, he said youtube is the only platform that mattersAnd he's probably gonna seethe at you and say "twitter was shit ever since elon took over wah wah" (the joke is that twitter was always shit and people who say that only retard musk made it bad are the very people who made the platfomr shit in in the first place from the start)
>>155009165Nah its a mixed bag. They're also making amvshttps://youtu.be/k5rvEaEq-FA
Anyone got the sex comic?
>>155009218I love them so muchhttps://files.catbox.moe/ge1mlw.JPG
>>155008698He studied /biz/
>>155009244Arigato.
>>155009196Hot take: this would be MORE compelling than Naruto vs Sasuke because Jean and Peter actually like each other while Naruto and Sasuke perpetually treated each other like shit
>no jean, i will not let you into my mind to watch when i go pee
>>155008850Peter likes their fury
>>155008568>>155009165Doesn't help that most commenters treat her like a monster and psychohttps://youtu.be/XvZVsiMW450
>>155008534Do we really need to rape Peter even more?
>>155009284>jean can you use your powers to make my pee do a loop on the way down
>>155009300>Like she's a psychoShe... kind of literally is though?And that's why some people think she's hot
>>155008698The mcu world is much more advanced, this tech is the home standard, probably
Why would they show us a redhead waifu for Peter if he can't have her? Feige will pay for his crimes
>>155009333She is perfect, I hope they keep her rough parts and her willingness to flatten everyone who gets in her way.>>155009151I want to lick her feet!>>155009284>Jean so unkempt and sweatyShe triggers my hard on like no other.
>>155009276Sasuke and Naruto secretly respected each other.
Idk why people think having three monitors and a 3d printer means you're rich
>>155009169its all bots and never even reached a billion users
>>155009284>Jean's face when TRYING REALLY HARD to beam sexy thoughts into Peter's brain>Peter wonders why he can't stop picturing Jean's body masturbating on a bed>thinks he must be a huge pervert>saves people around New York while sporting the hardest most visible boner of his life>gets called a pervert>Jameson publishes a tabloid about Spiderman: sexual menace
>>155009388Everyone forgets that MCU Peter is a dumpster diver who collects anything useful and can lift up anything they can fit in a house
>>155008817>>155009011I believe it. What's happened with MJ since OMD has been fully intentional by marvel.
>>155009244This comic is nuts
Is the support for the ship already fading? Is it due to the way people consume media where they don't stick with something for very long? Has the movie premiered in China yet? Chinese artists should join forces with their Japanese and Korean artist to create more fanart
>>155009284>Jean please stop psychically helicoptering it I've really gotta go >Jean you can literally hold it in real life with your hand if you stop just get off the couch
>>155009284
>>155009439The honeymoon phase of hype will die down but I think ultimately this will remain the most popular pairing for these characters
rumors are saying the xmen and spidey will have a close relationship
>>155009439The ship is currently the most popular pairing for MCUjean since she doesn't have anyone elseIn Peter's case it's her vs ZendayaWe have until the X men movie for them to make Scott a compelling love interest for Jean. If they don't people will stick with Peter.The main challenge for this ship is people who believe they see each other as siblings.
>>155008534I think the best bet for this pairing is if you get another spider man cartoon.Spider Man cartoons already give him weird supporting casts
>>155009469I thought she was saying "kill everyone around her" but I just realized there's another interpretation. It may make sense, spending so much time in other's minds must feel like her body is not really "Jean" and they are all "her".An untrained mind may even go insane from losing all sense of self into other minds.I hope they keep her psycho like this even after she becomes a heroine kek. She's far too fun. I hope she remains street level until the next next Avengers
Friendly Neighborhood is trying to pair Peter with a Namor spinoff character so let's not act like Marvel is above just replacing MJ with a known superhero
>>155009465The Mouse needs Spider-Man and wolverine together. Ironman and the real Cap, had to be dragged out of fake retirement, and the C-listers don't sell anymore
>>155009404I figure there's probably some repurposed supervillain gear too, obviously all the dangerous stuff has to go to lockup, but once the evidence is processed there's no reason Tinker's 3D printer can't be "auctioned off to a private citizen" for five bucks. Police chief lady seemed like she'd be willing to hook him up.
>>155008534MARVEL, REVEAL THAT HER REAL NAME IS MARY JEAN GREY AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
>>155009519I think it's important to notice that the information Jean gets when she reads minds is permanent She used an elderly female janitor to pilot a tank, so she likely got the information on driving tanks from a completely different person and retained the ability to pilot a tank after jumpingJean can probably pilot a helicopter and hack computersEveryone she invades becomes a small part of her mind
>>155009549OR have Jean come back to the city and assume a civilian identity. Can't use Jean Grey since she is still sought by SHIELD and other task forces due to her crimes, so she assumes the fake identity Mary Jane
>>155009556If I had her ability, I would totally go after talented individuals like Taskmaster. Imagine if she can copy all he learns such as combat methods, hacking and what not.
>>155009004>no info on the incursions so she assumes its HER peter>this unlocks the phoenix
>>155009529>>155009527If Mikey mandates Jean and Peter in the comics for brand synergy, I'm on board.
>>155008604>getting kissed by girl possessed by other girl using her a proxy to kiss him
I haven't watched x-men or spiderman since I was a child.I remember Jean grey fucking like 3 different guys in x-men alone. I think she works with everyone. She's a one hole fits all type girl.
>>155008975Tim going to need them to be like this after the symbiote saga
hugging jean until she stops killing people
Peter walking in on Jean huffing his boxers...
I can't help but notice that they nerfed Jean in such a way that she is able to "race" spider man instead of just instantly getting the control she needs
>>155009244So why did she decide to wear Peter's shirt
>>155009629I wonder if she doesn't suffer from identity loss since in her mind, she is all those persons she possesses. But yeah, Jean is the hottest
>>155009629>>155009732I think her dismissal of humans on a personal level keeps her from dwelling too much on their thoughts and feelings. They are all monsters after all
>>155009667thats good writing
>>155009439It's a crackship, obviously.
>>155009667She is definitely more entertaining like that instead of just steamrolling her opposition or warping reality with her pinky. They should keep her as a hoodrat in the following movies or make a series>Ignore the X-men, Phoenix and cosmic shit. Leave that for an Avengers crossover>There is no Xavier institute, Jean remains a hood rat struggling to make ends meet and starts the show with the barest form of telepathy and telekinesis strong enough to move a coin a few inches by extreme concentration. Her main skill keeps being possessing people>Jean arrives to a city and hoping to prevent others from feeling the loss she suffered, tries her hand at superheroics and keep trying to track the guy who murdered her sister>Turns out she's pretty bad at it and struggles with not going overboard and is even more surprised by how Peter makes it look so easy>Catches the attention of a charming man who she can't easily read and control>He proposes to teach her how to become a proper superhero and shows her that he has a very similar ability to hers to make people obedient>Starts teaching her how to use her abilities but his ruthless methodology clashes with the example Peter set>She ends up rejecting him, after which she learns that he actually wanted to harness her abilities as a weapon>She sets to catch him but he parallels Jean in his use of people as meatshields and makes them commit crimes(CONT)
>>155009732>light skinned silky hair
>>155009667And I'm glad they did, it made things more visually interesting than just having a shot of Jean standing around doing the default telepathy pose. Made for good visual storytelling the way her crude jumping contrasted with the Bubble at the end.
>>155009765>Show turns into a police series with Jean trying to capture him but struggles because he is too skilled and she has to concede moral ground to get the upper hand>Peter joins shortly after to support Jean and through their relationship get closer to capture the villain>The series shows them starting to date and the mushy parts of their relationship as contrast to the gruesome detective cases Jean solves>Show ends in climatic scene where he puts Peter in danger and Jean has to resist the urge to kill in order to win. She manages to defeat the villain but barely thanks to the power of love and Peter's help, representing the death of the old Jean by capturing the villain instead of resorting to murder>Peter congratulates her for her growth and they watch the sunset>Symbiote arc starts here! >>154979628 Also Jessica Jones collaborates in some cases although she displays an inherent hatred for Jean
>>155009777>Jessica Jones fan leeching off Jean Grey's new found popularitylol
>>155009777Sounds awesome>>155009806It makes sense to work her in since Pete is now tied to marvel Netflix
Realistically, is there any way for Disney to make Scott look like a better partner than Peter? I’ve never read X-Men comics other than "AvX", and it seems like they aren't that close, even though they have a son.
>>155009816They aggressively played up the whole "dark mirror" angle with Jean For Docttbehryneill have to do something novel to make it work
The whole X men being around Tom hollands age seems intentional
>>155009813I mean it could work. But I think the one who makes most sense in the setting is Purple Man as Jean's dark reflection. He is everything that a repentant Jean would want to avoidAnd since his ability isn't psychic, he may influence Peter. Imagine Killgrave taking control of Peter and making him tell Jean that "she raped him"So much potential for drama and plot lines.
Jean: Damage control attacks anyone who's differentPeter: they're not after you because you're different, they're hunting you because you're dangerousJean: Oh yeah? *Kills an old man*Peter: *penis hardens*
Would Frank be more sympathetic if he learned what happened to Jean's sister and what she was after at the beginning of the movie? Would he help her attack damage control or still try to stop her?>>155009877H-hot!
>>155009813>Jessica Jones fan declares wanting to leech off Spider-Man now tooMarvel Studios fucked up the new Daredevil season, made Frank Castle a comic relief character, and deleted Jessica Jones from the canon at this point. You're delusional if you think any of this is worth dwelling on for more than five seconds.
>>155009945But Jessica is in that show
How can we improve the X-men?
>>155010022Scott starts dating Michelle due to her ultra liberal beliefs
Dang, multiple threads in the catalogue while one reaches bump limit! Another thread is probably gonna reach bump limit before this one. If possible, please add thread topics so it can be clear which ones are SpiderPhoenix threads!Ones that reached bump limit:From oldest (top) from the newest (bottom):https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154877621https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154893227https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154898929https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154916242https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154933242https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154946039https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154951260https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154956043https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154970202https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154968194https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154975467https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154993551Keep making great ideas anons. I love you all!
>>155009196The symbiotes weakness is supposed to be fire but if you actually set it on fire it's more resilient than a human being so is that even a weakness really
>>155010014Jessica Jones being in the new Daredevil season that everyone hated means her and ol' Matty won't be showing up anytime soon.
>>155010038Oops forgot to add the latest bump limit one on this list.https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154979913
>>155008534Fucking hell, she really could have just been casted as Mary Jane
>>155009175Oohe Jean feeling hearts because of Peter being shirtless
>>155010022First, they can stop being racist. Next they could agree to kill or cure the unstable mutants or useless mutants. Third, make all telepaths take sexual harassment training so they stop messing with minds.
It's over Jeanfags.
>>155009847Maybe they are taking cues from Xmen Evolution
>>155010038Thank you archive anon. Speaking of, what is the ao3 you mentioned is a must read in ao3?
>>155010073>First, they can stop being racist. Next they could agree to kill all mutants
>>155010073>okay Miss Grey we need you to explain to the class why it's wrong to make two people non consensually kiss each other>fuck that, it's hot plus the last time I did it I landed the coolest boyfriend ever
>>155010079It is inevitable.
>>155010079How do you know that isn't Jean possessing Michelle?
>>155009945What was bad about the Punisher is in this? It's not like they've never toned down Frank beforeAlso he was going to shoot a girl with a 50 cal. I cannot think of a more Punisher thing than that
>>155010104/our/ girl. Also ignore the scrott trolls. Post cute Peter x Jean instead
>>155010088>Speaking of, what is the ao3 you mentioned is a must read in ao3?There are a couple I've recommended but which one are you speaking about specifically? As of now, there are a good amount of new fics that are good reads, with many of them more on the way.Unless you are talking about the popular ones that came out first?
Peter never taught Jean consent, he just made her stop her rampage
>but she's a rapist>but she hurts peopleAnd?????
>>155010144He taught her that his consent can be a total turn on. Every time Peter lets Jean into his kind consensually from now on will get her all hot and bothered.
>>155010105This art is nice, but it bothers me that it's Scott. It would have been great if Jean looked annoyed at catching Scott when she was actually looking for Spider-Man.
>>155010171It's crazy that we live in a world where people who ship Jean with her own husband have to battle against Spider-man fans
>>155010159She needs to be punished before ahe can be redeemedHer punishment is no spider dick
>>155009816>Realistically, is there any way for Disney to make Scott look like a better partner than Peter? I'm going to be dead serious about this. They lost the train when they had mind Aunt May give her the Uncle Ben speech during the Jean-Peter Vulcan mind meld/newtype mind sex scene. Spider-Man's core mantra with great power comes great responsibility is now directly part of Jeane in the MCU. That tied her extremely close to Spidey here. The, "You have me," line killed what ever was left after that. Any relationship they give her with cyclops now, if they even bother trying to, is going to exist fully in the shadow of Jean and Peter's relationship here. Add to this that this is basically the biggest movie since end game and that shadow gets even bigger.
>>155008698That Stark industries money really lasts
>>155010144And that is a good thing. I hope she projects lewd thoughts into peter like this >>155009402>>155010143I think its the popular one that came out. Not sure which ones are must reads nowadays
Jean believes you have to choose between being human and being super
>>155010226Do you think Stark Industries execs even know who Peter is and why this random kid has a fuckton of inheritance from Tony Stark
>>155008698Probably a freelancing programmer
>>155009469>>155009484Smidge too moe for her character but I'd take a low stakes movie of Frank Castle, Jean Grey, and the friendly neighborhood spiderman absolutely terrorizing New York scale super villains. Tight 1:20:00 of spiderman tard wrangling his murderhobo pals in a low stakes normal crime/on the run plot with the downtime to play house.
>>155010238Is there anyone at stark industries now? Does it even exist?
>>155010249I'm torn. I like seeing cute Jean Art but that isn't who she is She's Peter but ruthless. Kind of like Task Peter
>>155010238They know who "Spider-Man" is, that's all they need to know.
>>155010257Happy and Pepper should still be there
>>155010194It’s cute and doesn’t deserve the hate. But it’s weird that people are starting to make art of UCM Jean and Cyclops when that pairing doesn't exist. It’s as if they just want to be contrarian.
>>155010259I think just like the movie showed: she can be both.
>>155010280>>155010275inb4 Zendaya is paying the youtubers and artists to make art and try to destroy the shipThat'd be hilarious
>>155010291
Imo the best themaric parallel that the movie oddly didn't point out is that from Jean's perspective, Peter mindwiped Ned and MJ somehow meaning he doesn't get to preach about messing with people's heads
They belong with each other. If not romantically then at least as found family. Her, Peter and Frank lost everything and I need them to grow and support one another. If the spell gets broken and Michelle remembers being love with Peter or if they even do a Spider-Man 2 and have her leave not!Paul at the alter for Peter in a later movie it's just going to feel cheap or rushed. Most of the heroes from the old guard are in radically different dynamics; Thor is a single father, Quill has no Gamorra, Strange accepted his love interest has moved on. I've already accepted that Michelle will win though. I don't blame Tom for wrangling the writers room for letting Peter end with her due to him being loyal to his real life wife. I just want more Pean interactions. I want Secret Wars to be Spider-Man 4.5 and X-Men 0.5. I want Peter to look at her and say he's proud she turned her life around. >>155008568>>155009300>>155009439Such is life
>>155010327I NEED THIS!
>>155010291People would realized, besides, we have Japan and Korea on our side. We just need China, and we’ll have enough firepower to keep the ship afloat.
>>155010291Destroy it? She's the one who is secretly pushing it.
We had a cartoon where iron fist, nova, white tiger, and Luke Cage were spider mans sidekicks and he already decided he's never dating MJWe had a cartoon where all of the spider men are simultaneously spider man. That was dumb.We have a cartoon where spider man's best friend is Nico MinoruWe have a spider-man cartoon where two of the X-men are Peter's sidekicks The KCU fan be weird
>>155010228Well, this one as of right now is the longest one for AO3 and the 2nd most popular I believe. It's a good read with lots of fluff and trauma bonding. I have no idea how the author did it, but they have written over 40,000 words in such a short amount of time. Super impressive./works/89711981/chapters/238317011If you want smut, this one has Arachnid-mode Peter. You can fill in the blanks how that plays out./works/90059966/chapters/239332616More smut:/works/90049876/chapters/239299626This one is what I'm looking forward to for more chapters:/works/89713766/chapters/238321561There are lots of good fics, and like I said, there are a lot of them coming out as the days go on. I'm inspired to write one myself too! I love it all!
>>155010413Can these two just be the mcu protagonists nowLet the og avengers rest
>>155010413I love how the fanart for this ship looks like some kind of enemies to lovers anime that doesn't exist.
>>155010345It feels distinctly asian, like the romance between Shirou and Sakura or Rem and Subaru. All sacrificial, both broken but after their rivalry licking each other's wounds.
>>155010413Thank you anon! I love how romantic they are together. So wholesome>>155010367I-is Zendaya a cuckquean?
>>155009581>Mary Jean, but you can call me MJ~>Did I do something to make you angry? >...you don't like it. I'm so silly. >No no no, of course I like your name! It's just not much of a pseudonym if it's also your actual name so... >Mary Jane? >... Cool! Real cool, uh... Still MJ. >He rapidly gets used to it.jpg
>>155010451MCU cloak and dagger have this dynamic but so think they drag it out too long, plus that show goes too far in the direction of suffering until it's not even fun and they don't start to really love each other until the series finale so they drag on the tsundere dynamic for two seasons
>>155009089Its a spy setup. Nobody native to New York eats bottom tier commercial pizza.
>>155010469kek I need this
>>155010465>Got double teamed in Challengers>Gets with Timothee in DUNC>Tom's most recent relevant "romance" is getting buttfuckedIf we get the very rare chance that PeterJean is the end game, I figured she's just being fair. That is if she's influencing the writer's room. I know Tom is.
>>155010171Fuck that’s a great idea
>>155009765>shehulk2/10 miniseries idea posted verbatim for second time Let's cut out the middleman and just have a Deadpool 4 cutaway of Scott hanging himself with a belt after gaining external timeline knowledge he's the one that gets the Jean in every timeline but this one.
Could Jean forcibly make an entire city have an orgasm?https://youtu.be/oV7tG2AJXJ8&t=52
This reminds me how the mcu really tried to sell us that Cap and Tony were best friends. Since fucking when? At least we see Peter and Jean bind
>>155010199Why did the MCU cuck Uncle Ben out of a role or any importance?
>>155008832She didn't even mind losing sometimes, seeing how she was beaming with a smile while getting her butt kicked as Scorpion.There was definitely something else wrong with her after she met Peter.
>>155010590What if she's super kinky and when getting her shit kicked in as Scorpion was secretly saying "hit me harder, daddy!"Girl is definitely wrong in the head...and she's based like that.
>Get in my way again and I'll suck your cockWhat did she mean by this
>>155009469Imma touch your chilli, Frank
>>155010589They wanted and succeeded at, as far as the general public is concerned, making Tony Stark Spider-Man's main father figure. This meant that you had to have Aunt May do uncle Ben's job in NWH after Tony Died. In other words Ironboy Jr was too important for the MCU.
Jean was genuinely competitive about it in a way most Spider villains aren't. She was actually impressed that someone was challenging her. I love that part when she realizes he's inhibited. "You think I'm Scorpion?"She was so exited to see him be wrongm she was so interested in his immunity
>>155010556>Deadpool 4 cutaway of Scott hanging himself with a belt after gaining external timeline knowledge he's the one that gets the Jean in every timeline but this one.to quote /sp/So it happened again
Work in progress. Probably won't clean up that second panel so I don't have to draw blanket cloth dynamics
>>155010744I love you
>>155010259The cute just has to be involuntary and Peter caused, juxtaposed with the unflinching personal morality and harsh worldview of her general actions. >Visibly annoyed about being webslinged everywhere rapped around Peter >Gets dropped off on fire escape >Walks into kitchen, Flies up to get cup from top cupboard
What is your favorite thing about Peter and Jean? I like that they can relate to each other
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>>155010841Scottbros we are in fucking danger
>>155010841>steals scott's girl>then steals scott's team
>>155010841They're actually setting up for this revival with Jean as Firestar.
>>155010841ohnononono scott dont look
>>155010841>storm says something nice to Spider-man >jean gives her a death stare>suddenly she hates Spider-man and thinks moving to Wakanda is a good idea
>>155010841>Peter becoming a professor/teacher for young and new mutants is a very real possibilityWE ARE SO CLOSE TO PERFECTION. IT IS TIME!PIC VERY RELATED
>>155010666I don't know, Satan. I think if you asked the average person who uttered the phrase 'With great power, comes great responsibility' to Spider-Man/Peter Parker the majority of people are going to say Uncle Ben.
>>155010887Parker might be the one person who can protect these mutant kids from that crackpot Charles Xavier
>>155010876>Storm gains a distaste for white people and immigrates to Wakanda>Kitty turns gay>Jubilee turns gay>Bobby turns straight Who keeps doing this to people who Peter hangs out with?
>>155010841>Scott after seeing Peter sneak into Jean's room in the middle of the night
They casted an older girl for Emma, I don't see the big deal. Scott gets his diamond mommy and Jean gets her spider daddy. Win win?
Tom loves his wife and controls the writers room. It's retarded to think that your ship between Peter and a hysterical raping murdering terrorist will be anything.
>>155010952Y'all ain't serious
>>155010667>fuckYeah she was genuinely fun to watch and so delightfully villainous.>>155010841OUR BOY DID IT! He actually STOLE the team from Scott!Reportedly movie will start with Scott sitting on a chair to the sound of grunts and moaning of pleasure, only to show Jean leglocking Peter on Scott's bed as Peter unleashes a heady torrent of warm sticky "organic web" into her v-max. Then Peter will grab some water and fistbump Scott as he makes his way out.
>>155010841>peter fucks jean AND kitty
>>155010906>Rogue offers to see if her powers in any way help Peter deal with unintentional spider roidrage >She just explodes
>>155010952>murderingName a single confirmed kill of hers.You literally can't, and in fact she goes out of her way to not kill people when she could easily do so like when she takes down those two door guards non-lethally.
>>155010952zendaya cultists are so strange
Any chance she ever interacts with Emma's Gwen Stacy? I really liked her
>>155010952>murderingnot her fault
>>155011072Garfield Spidey deserves a happy ending, dude never really recovered from losing her. Just give him a clip at the end of secret wars.
>>155011104Make her reappear after the universe is remade OR recast her as Spider Gwen
>>155011066They got more pull than niche fan art of a crack ship and the words written by people on Timorese coconut forum. Better start dumping your stocks, Jeanbros. Price is about to come down. The ship is going to say hi to the deep sea fish forever.
>Spider-Man: Brand New Day - The Art of the Movie shares incredible concepts that fans will love.>Disappointingly, Sadie Sink's character, the final act, and more are not shown, essentially making it 'The Art of the Trailer'.Damn.
>>155010616>>155010667A very underrated part of her game is that she doesn't mind the physical damage, but she gets hurt whenever Peter implies he doesn't see her as human.She only threatens MJ after Peter tells her that Damage Control is right to chase her, and she stops having fun when he calls her a monster.
>>155010058Surprised no one has ever drawn Jean doing the MJ jackpot pose.
>>155011154What, you think we have to stop supporting a ship because it dips below a certain percentage of support? Because it gets too old? Fujoshi's are still spitting out TOS Spock/Kirk in 2026 and you think I have to give up on a popular ship from a 2 billion dollar movie that came out like two weeks ago?It's not about popularity. Iit is about how deranged I, personally, am. If there's other people out there posting art and fics, all the better.
>>155011240Damn that scorpion looks so sick! And Frank looks badass.Damn a shame they limited it. Did they also have a graphic Jean x Peter sex scene in the booklet?>>155010469>>155011261>Surprised no one has ever drawn Jean doing the MJ jackpot pose.>Jean comes back to the city>Asks Peter to let her stay in his apartment since she has nowhere to go and glowies are still after her>Peter accepts, free of charge despite Jean insisting she will pay him back...one way or another>She settles down, manages to acquire an identity>She decides Mary Jane>Comes to Peter's apartment to celebrate>"Face it tiger, you just hit the jackpot~"
>>155011282>a popular ship>popular
>>155011261How am I supposed to finish anything when people keep having good ideas
>>155010841Isn’t his only real friend in the X-Men Wolverine?Iceman was a friend only in the old cartoon and in the Ultimate Universe (which also added Torch in the friend group due to mirror said cartoon)
>>155011372Which makes this a very good elseworlds concept. No matter the outcome, Jean and Peter have a special bond and she's going to be his liaison to them when times get tough.
>>155011154>2billion dollars showed up to see spiderman break up with not Mary Jane>Highest box office of year already, in running for hitting endgame and Avatar for the top all time slots over theatrical run by virtue of being watchable in 2026. The mouse doesn't care about the spiderman movie "woops I married and divorced my onscreen gf" curse, there is unironically billions on the line in not fucking up marvel again.
>>155011072I've been rewatching scenes recently, and she's so damn pretty and likeable as Gwen. It's crazy.
>>155011297GIGAKINO. No seriously, Spider-Man 5, Sadie Sink returns, and her character goes undercover under the name Mary Jane. And it's the very thing that kickstarts Peter's attraction to her.
>>155011415I'd love to see her again in some role. Emma Stone, Abigail Cowen and Kirsten Dunst were my crushes growing up.
>>155008620Also that they're powers are radically different but have the same effect.
I'd rather not have Jean go by Mary Jane. Part of a elseworld is putting characters in situations that offer vastly different relationships to the ones we see in the mainline. Two characters who might be close friends in one universe are bitter rivals in another. Two characters who might not deal with each other might be the closest of lovers.
>>155011372Wolverine seems like his #1 since as the two popular characters they get shoved together the most, but Peter's pretty chill with most of them. He even let Nightcrawler borrow the name Spider-Man for a while.
>>155011297>chooses Mary Jane because she thinks Peter has a thing for girls who he can call MJ>>155011261Have some slop while we wait for an actual talented person.
>>155008698Tony wrote him the sad orphan package in his wheel. Him and the potato gun kid from 3.
>>155011468Wasnt this because he was off world or something where he outright couldnt be spiderman.
>>155008568>No one on youtube>(the only platform that matters)That would be Tiktok, unc.No one even watches youtube anymore, we only listen to essays sometimes.
>>155011464>W...w...would you take an else world? Please! No Scott Dr. Doom who is causing an elder scrolls dragonbreak and spiderman is tagging along on the Xjet, Jean Grey having a loving relationship with spiderman is the literal key to all of this not instantly bombing in theaters.
>>155011561Spider-Man is going to be with Michelle Jones. Jean Grey will have a loving relationship with Spider-Man. It's going to be platonic love.
>>155008604Why is Zendaya white?
Wild Jean Grey theory. What IF... She's STILL not Jean Grey. And even Sadie doesn't know. At the time. And the next movie reveals she's Jean's clone, created by Damage Control. Cue Clone Saga.
>>155011678Trash.
>>155011678Nah we're gonna get a clone of her sister, and that's going to be the MCU's Goblin Queen.
If I was writing I would have stressed that taking over someone's mind has had a hazardous effect on Jean, that she absorbs part of the malice from each person. Later she discovers its her own malice, amplified and strengthened in her own mind and this malice is malignant, her empathy and mercy is dying because her crusade against Damage Vontrol is running off her malice. Such is the danger she discovers in being a telepath, that how you use your powers changes you physically and psychologically. You must be mindful of dark fantasies because for Jean enacting them is as easy as thinking them. This could be conveyed through bits like showing a victim who smokes and then show Jean Smokes, using identical abusive language, etc. As the damage control people. This will parallel Peter who is turning into Man-Spider and how his powers are changing him into a monster.
>>155011473>she thinks Peter has a thing for girls who he can call MJShe doesn't have to think it, SHE CAN KNOW because she WAS INSIDE PETER. Telepathy must be like the most intimate ability you can have, to merge with another's most private thing, feeling and thinking what he does and his darkest secrets and fantasies. Merging so deeply, so intimately, you can't know where one being ends and the other begins. Its more than making love>>155011624Because she's too ugly they had to take artistic liberties
I don't want Jean to go to the X-Men.
>>155011841Thank god peter is older. Teen peter would be pure putty to a teen mutant telepath thanks to his hormones.
ENOUGH JEAN, STOP THIS
>>155010557Find out in the X Men movie. Emma pretty much does what the /co/ perception of Jean is. The Morrison run has Emma forcing protesters to cum, and doing telepathic sex with someone's husband. I don't know if she'd do similar things in the movie, but I'd expect unethical telepathic shenanigans.I'm curious to see Emma's interactions with Jean. She'd most likely approve of everything Jean did in New York, with the exception of her being sloppy with the telepathy.
>>155011975>Emma's ass crack hanging outShe's a classy lady.
Odds they make Peter and Jean hook up in the comics considering how popular this pairing has become and how awful both MJ and Cyclops (TBF all mutants are shitbags) are?
>>155011902Same for me. I never liked the x-men/mutants in general. I've just never considered them fun. This movie gave me soemthing I've always wanted in the movies, Peter with a girl who's fun to watch in her own right. I'd thought it would be Felicia who would do that if it ever happened. Out of left field Jean Grey of all characters gave me that, and it sucks knowing they're just using her and Spiderman to set up the team I don't care about.
>>155012034Low. Then again, they were the last people on earth in that zombies run a few months ago.
>>155010589I think in Civil War Peter mentions making a big mistake because he wasn't careful which was alluding to Ben. I know there were other references to Ben in the movies but I can't remember them.I like the direction they took with May in the third movie. It's an interesting move to have May be the one to give a version of the power and responsibility speech. I liked her in all the movies and she has powerful moments in the last two movies.The buildup to May's talk with Peter and Jean is really good, being partially shown two times. Peter's words with May's grave at the end that Tom Holland ad libbed, framed the movie so well and capped off Peter's character arc.
>>155008534from the thumbnail that looks like angela anaconda
>>155012052>I'd thought it would be Felicia who would do that if it ever happened.They'd have to get someone like Sydney Sweeny for maximum impact. Sony already wasted her on Madame Web, they'd better be ready with a dumptruck of money if they want her back.
>>155011967Scott, the whole 'speak now or forever hold your peace' is just a traditional thing. You're not actually supposed to jump out of your seat and start objecting like a mad man.
>>155012034It'll happen eventually. How long is anyone's guess. If the Chinks like it and they can sell Jean and Spider-man merch outside the spider coaster in Shanghai disneyland then we'll get a corporate mandate from the Mouse down. In the extreme long run some kid watching this movie will grow up write for marvel and say, "I'm writing, I decide who Peter is fucking in my comic, and I like Jean."
>>155012165>Sydney SweeneyThere are other women in the world with boobs, and some of them know how to act, and not just have boobs on camera
>>155012189Put up and name them fool.
>First mutant in the MCU proper>Already as unconscionable as the X-men in the comicsYeah, they spedrun the moral downfall the X-men experienced over decades in the comics.
>>155012244>Gets redeemed by the best hero of them all
>>155012167Well that would explain why im not welcome at my cousin's house anymore.....
>>155012279The Uncle Ben speech has 100% effectiveness
>>155012244Might be splitting hairs but technically Deadpool and alt!Logan arrived ahead of her since they went thier separate ways into the MCU at the end of their movie
>>155011967Who would win in a fight, Cyclops or Spiderman?
>>155011902Me neither, doesn't even feel necessary and the x-men lore is too convoluted. I'd rather she do her own thing as a street level heroine with Peter and purple man as her archnemesis
>>155012294>even in death he's best wingmanBased Uncle Ben.>>155012359Spider sense makes Peter effectively untouchable if he's really throwing down. Cyke might be able to get a ricochet shot in but all Peter needs to do is tap him once and the fight's over
>>155012362The X-men themselves won't fit properly into the MCU, there are too many of them, they do way too much stupid shit, and there are already so many people with powers in the MCU, that there's no reason for them to be segregated by the fact they have an X gene or not.
>>155011826>Because she's too ugly they had to take artistic liberties
>>155012359Considering Cable, Cyclop's future son, said Spider-man will be known as the "greatest hero of all" in the future, I'm guessing ol' One Eye wouldn't stand much of a chance.
>Jean Grey was sent to an orphanage due to her powers and adoptive parents didn't want her>she is adopted by May and Ben at a young age>Peter and Jean grew up together very close, not afraid of being there for one another no matter what, opening up to each other for anything>she has her powers but they started out relatively weak, has only told Peter who is a big nerd about her and is amazed at what she does>fast-forward to when they are in high school, shortly after Peter gets his powers>they team up cleaning up the city together>"Peter... we may have grown up like siblings but there's something I need to tell you...">pic relatedWould you read? I'm thinking of writing something like this.
>>155012399Thought so. The only thing I could imagine cyclops doing that spiderman can't beat is him just opening his eyes wide and just covering so much area his sense wouldn't help.
>>155012279Wait, so when Jean kisses Peter through MJ, does she actually feel the kiss?
>>155012477Fuck it, if DC can make an official comic about Harley farting, then you can make a Peter/ Jean pseudo incest fanfic, who gives a shit at this point?
>>155012479The problem here is context.Cyclops is not going to start a fight with massive AoE or full output of his powers, and Spidey is not going to start a fight with punches carving Cyclop's chest inwards.In a brawl, the most probably thing is that they are going to scale up the amount of effort put there, and while Spidey can close or make distance faster than Cyclops, at both distances the mutant have his own tools to get a good hit through the fight.
>>155012477YES! But make Jean ruthless, I love heroines who know they are bad AND OWN IT
>>155012494I imagine she has some semblence of feeling what the person they're possesing feels.
>>155012093oh I get it the "have" looks like "love"
>>155010744
>>155010049I thought it was sound?
>>155012477Just promise: No science team of nerds for his back-up, and Jean can't look at Peter and say "No, Peter. You are not Spider-Man. WE are."
>>155009439The SpiderPhoenix subreddit is up to 16k members.
>>155012477Might as well anonIn a similar vein I kind of want to make a short Coffin of Andy and Lele mechanical renpy/unityslop parody about the immediate aftermath of the movie. So the apartment lockdown thing framed around Jean showing up and putting Peter in a position where he has fo hide her in his place, having to manage her needs and psychic violation gremlin urges. Then of course Peter gets molested and hates himself for "taking advantage" or for making Jean feel even more isolated and alone (she of course reading his mind and anime nose bleeding at his cute noble suffering not matter what he does). Good end Peter sorts himself out and before Jean can realize to squirm away she's become a contented better person too.
>>155012494According to MJ, it's like someone hit pause on her consciousness. So Jean is the only one that feels it as she's in the driver's seat.
>>155012658>RedditThat's just visitors. One Shitter, most Jean and Peter art is niche with some getting in the tens of thousands but most not getting much attention at all and most of the comments are "ew diddy blud. Michelle will win." Meanwhile Michelle fan art gets hundreds of thousands of likes and massive support. It's over. You are delusional. Get some help.
>>155012560>>155012477>>155012651>>155012662>Jean is very popular in school because of her red hair, especially boys>lots of them have a crush on her>she turns them all down immediately>Jean defends Peter from his bullies>to the point she traumatizes them>when Peter asks her at what she did, she just smiles at him innocently>she immediately gets jealous whenever girls get friendly with him>does the same thing to them too>when Peter gets his powers, she notices she cant read his mind anymore>it flusters her more than anything else now, to the point where she is REALLY obsessed with Peter now>she always thinks about at what thoughts hes thinking, feeling, etc>she thinks nothing but him and his thoughts 24/7>Peter slowly but surely accepts Jean at his obsession towards him, to the point it will become mutual later onI just thought of this on the spot. I didn't think of anything else more, but now I REALLY want to write this now because of the potential. The smut would be out of this world, but I'm not good enough at smut. I WILL do it solely for this ship and scenario.It's too good now that I think about it.
>>155012477I've long wondered what if say Peter got a cousin/sibling or even a character like Clark Kent got a blood unrelated sibling. Given how I expect Jean's going to be Peter's pseudo-sister (she lost her sister, he lost his aunt and he said he always wanted brothers so why not have a sister) i'd dig it
>>155012683>Michelle fan artlmao what art no one fucking draws Zendayashe's fucking poison
>>155008534adding this tism forced ship to the filter list too now.
>>155012683>Meanwhile Michelle fan art gets hundreds of thousands of likes and massive support. It's over. You are delusional. Get some help.Not him but why are you seething so hard over a supposed crackship?
>>155012477Needs more spice, drama for example their relationship going cold after Ben's death and then building up back again. Like, maybe instead of instantly telling her, Peter hides being Spider-Man, because he doesn't want to worry his family, and Jean doesn't pry into his mind out of respect but he keeps coming home injured, then they're having a fight, she looks into his mind because she can't stand seeing him hurt anymore, he gets upset with her over this but she hugs him cries into his chest about not wanting to lose anyone anymore and then develop something out of it.Or make something similar to the movie, they're both hiding their vigilante stuff from each other, but Jean is vingative, violent, acting in the shadows to rid NY from criminals while Peter holds himself back and is doing heroics to save people from meeting the same end as Ben, then they fight, find out each other's identity, she runs away from home and he has to spend time trying to get her back and with each heart to heart, each time they save each other, their relationship starts shifting from platonic to romantic.
>>155012034>Odds they make Peter and Jean hook up in the comicsThat's retarded>how awful both MJ (...) are?Hi Marvel editor.
>>155012757A fly that keeps escaping getting swatted earns my ire.
>>155012644>Jean is on sabbatical honey. Can the spider-man come out to play? >For maximum fearboner. They almost have to make some joke about green goblin Queen, especially if this whole phase devolves into clone shenanigans.
>>155012052>Peter with a girl who's fun to watch in her own rightProperly written Mary Jane would have been just that.
>>155012772It’s not that deep, anon. So /co/ doesn’t like the Tomdaya ship but you have a bajillion of normalfags on Xitter that do. Just hang out with them. You’re not stopping anyone here from shipping PeterJean by sperging out in these threads. Things will eventually cool down anyways.
>>155012683>Michelle fan artKek. No one draws Zendaya. They always have to beautify her cause she's too ugly IRL
>>155011473Fuuuuuuuuuuu now I'm really tempted to watch this slop on YouTube to satisfy my craving
>>155010590all shes knows at that point is he can see her and she cant possess him
>>155012769>Odds they make Peter and Jean hook up in the comics>That's retardedMan, have you seen what goes on in Marvel's comics these days?
>>155008720Wolverine&X-Men and Spectacular Spider-Man are in the same continuity (or at least were supposed to).
>>155012811As you wish.
>>155011120holy stromboli
>>155012477>>155012706based>>155012662Do it. It will be the one ai slop game I would play.
>>155008822So Spider-Man acts like a hero to someone in need? Damn he's going to have a lot of relationships if that's all it takes.
>>155012948Kino
>make the central conflict of the story between a lurker and a troll who hacks other people's accounts to fuck with everything>have the climax be they meet IRL and they reveal themselves to be absolutely pathetic incel loners who just need a hugI have no hope for them to hook up (would be more interesting than traditional "oh you restored my memories" but whatevs) but the director, writers, actors etc. all earned their paychecks. I commend them to hell and back. I really need Jean and Peter to at least get a genuine warm hug in Secret Wars.
>>155008903They should.
>>155012985>Checks the spiderman hot villainess canon hookup roledex Yeah
>>155012985That's why his villains are mainly men and his one main female villain wants to bang him (not counting the symbiote).
>>155011018She mind controlled an old man to walk into incoming traffic
>>155013217And did he die?Can you give me evidence of a direct confirmation that he died?You know people can live through getting hit by a car, yes?
>>155011248True. Jean was all jokes until Spidey dehumanizee her
Surprised nobody is suggesting a Spider-harem. Especially after Superman made it a meme
>>155012477Isn't this basically cw flash
>>155012189Such as?
>>155013296Harems are so 2010's. We're now in the age of singular devotion. We see a character worthy of love, of affection and forgiveness. Someone who deserves a better life. And want them to have it. Despite her lashing out of the world, Jean deserves to be happy and love.
>>155012294>The Uncle Ben speech has 100% effectivenessI like how it even worked on the Champion in Tokon
I need marvel to pander to their Japanese fandom and make a Spidey Jean animeThey produced a lot of anime during the 2010s and then gave up suddenly after Future Avengers
>>155012428Just make them a super hero squad. The segregation thing happened when they were kids in 2008 but is over now. Barely mentioned aside from a few times. They'd be like gotg they just have a whole team for one movie.
>>155012477>NBR sigh
>>155013296We need more hot bitches for a harem. But they won't bring in Felicia. It'd be hilarious if he finds Gwen, and remembers what happened to her with Andrew Garfield.
