quick, someone find the hazbin spoiler before the people that did the interview with the voice actor take it downunfortunately image OP isn't spilling who or what it is or where to find it
there could be any number of thingswhat if it was just guessworkparroting fan theories?
>>155042565>>155042598Only a few things come to mind.... Blake when he spoiled what happened with Angel in the finale of season 2. He straight up just said what was going to happen. But I doubt that's what this is about, being that season 2 is over. Amir soft confirmed that Rosie was going to get a reveal in season 3, but that was ages ago and Viv herself said that we would find out why she is so powerful. Erika recently said on a Joe Vulpis interview how Charlie will regress into a sad child because of Lilith. She was also asked what flower Charlie would be, and she said this might be a spoiler, then proceeded to describe a white flower with a red velvet center... I know there has been an odd mention or two regarding Alastor and Emily, specifically how he feels about her saving him, but nothing concrete. Jeremy said that we would be seeing a lot more Lucifer, Lucifer crying, a duet between him and Alastor... Jessica confirming the Lute/Eve theory, but that one was two years ago and it was on Twitter, so it couldn't have been what this person is talking about.But none of these are particularly new, and people have discussed them before. This either this person is making shit up, or they just completely misunderstood what was said and they think it's a twist/spoiler.
>>155043335Oh, and Amir was listing some fan speculations, and he mentioned that Lucifer and Al's beef is personal. But people misunderstood the interview: he was literally just repeating the speculations, so him saying it was taken as confirmation. But that was just a misunderstanding. But even then... I wouldn't really consider this a twist
>>155042565I know what interview this is (i think), but the spoiler is genuinely so bad and something that you just wouldn't guess that I really don't think it's a good idea to post it either. I would ruin the fandom, not even kidding
>>155043422DUDE COME ON MAN DON'T BE LIKE THAT. This show is a piece of shit anyway. Go ahead!
>>155043422Post it here, any actual hazbin fan won’t be here to be spoiled
>>155043422DO IT.
>>155043422well now you can't post it, you've hyped it up too much.
>>155043422Ignore this guy >>155043470
Vivzie can't keep shit under wraps to save her life
>>155043521Probably
>>155042565>>155043422
>>155043674Listen I also vague post about Lute being Eve on other platforms so I can toot my own horn when it turns out to be true.
>>155043521Not a single thing from season 3 was released to this dayAll leaks from season 1 and 2 came from episodes 1 and 2 with tiny bits from episodes 3 and 4, all planned by Amazon itselfAll modern leaks are a variation of marketing since they're more interesting than ordinary announcements
>>155043457>Lute loves Adam. She must be Eve!How many times do I have to point out the other 99% of Lute’s character that strongly suggests she’s very different from Lilith and Eve, and lacks knowledge about Adam that Eve should be a lot more aware of.
>>155042565later OP in the twitter thread said it wasn't blake spoilingalso, we lost, we were too slow...https://x.com/TwoDream48/status/2088630255514784122Update #2 the team haz-bin () reached! They are gonna look into it & said they appreciate me flagging it! To everyone asking what it is, #1 no I'm not spilling cuz I am TIRED of leaks #2 everyguess i've seen so far has been wrong... okay bye
>>155044365No Bugcuck. Nobody cares about your fanfic bullcrap. Now fuck off before I gape you
>>155044384Bruh
>>155043422If it doesn’t involve the angel trio I don’t care.
>>155043422You can't ruin this fandom
>>155044435It's already ruined. It was born this way(Lady Gaga).
>>155044419Everything about Lute Eve is a bad fanfic. It refuses to address Lilith Eve properly at all besides purposely badly handling that topic and its clear visual evidence. You have nothing truly wrong with it and hate it because it goes against your absurd biases.
>>155044459You're getting gaped tonight Bugcuck. Prepare yourself.
>>155044459Lute, Eve, Lilith, Rosie and Roo have all spent the last ten thousand years secretly swapping identities with each other on a regular basis to fuck with everyone for shits and giggles, but they've been doing it for so long that they've all lost track of who was originally who and eventually there are going to be two Rosies or Liliths in the same room and it's going to be suuuuuper awkward.
>>155044485Then zombie Adam bursts into the room and is completely baffled. Except another Adam("sinner Adam") shows up to reveal everything he did.
>>155044485No.Lute/Michael keeps her position as a militarist angel from birth to the very end.Eve is just a freaky stalker obsessed with Lucifer to the point of her own damnation and eventual death. That’s why she does the freaky stunts she performs.Lilith is a little more mysterious with her methods but it does seem like her Rosie identity served the purpose of running secret projects like Cannibal Town before Eve made her step away from being in Charlie’s and Lucifer’s lives. Her actions are more like Michael’s in secretly managing her primary care areas in a hidden identity.
>>155044551Despite being a complete moron somehow Bugcuck manages to be right in some way. Except it's always against him. Like yeah Eve(Lute) is definitely a bit of a creepy stalker because she's acting as Lute to be near Adam. Kinda stalker behaviour.
>>155044703None of us could actually debunk Lilith Eve at all. That’s the direction being taken with that character and the leaks and bits we’ve gotten about Lilith Eve and what Lilith is like in season 3 adds up way too well.So screw off with your delusions. Lute loving Adam has nothing to do with her secret identity. It’s the most shallow thought process ever when their relationship suggests Lute isn’t in tune with Adam’s and Abel’s history and actual relationship. It does a lot in preventing the Lute Eve outcome you desperately want.
>>155044762Lute is Eve. Hope this helps!
>>155043422>anons genuinely believingyeah, i totally have the spoiler too, i just won't say it though, please give me all of the (you)s
Is the spoiler about the Charlie va revealing that the last song of season 3 is between Charlie and Lilith?
>>155044811it's charlie and adam's vas talking about what it was like voicing a twenty minute scene of adam impregnating charlie.
>>155044840This but instead replace Charlie with Lilith. Adam impregnating Lilith just as God intended.
>>155044833it sounds like a good spoiler but i'm not sure if it counts as a plot twist
>>155044783I don’t even think you actually like Lute at this point.
>>155044897I like Lute. Her being Eve doesn't "ruin" her for me because I'm not a fucking weirdo like you.
>>155044894I heard there was a panel in which someone said Adam and other dead characters are coming back.
>>155044922You literally spent years on Lute Eve while refusing to acknowledge everything about Lute that makes it clear she’s her own person entirely and ranting about Lilith Eve under underhanded tactics that have done nothing to crack against it. If you actually liked Lute, you wouldn’t undermine everything about her being all about her secret identity as Eve.Her actually developing relationship with Abel? You go, it’s because “Lute is Eve.”Adam deciding to be with Lute. You go, it’s because “Lute is Eve” and “Adam realizes she is Eve”.It does everything to screw up these three characters simultaneously with the worst foundational ground behind their actions, with lore that makes the purposely sexist heaven look absolutely pants retarded in the whole process of turning Eve to Lute instead of some maid.Michael makes way more sense with the heaven setting and the lore we have about warrior angels officially being Exorcists. And Lute suspiciously being the main one organizing the troops and determining their worth. And the best part is, it means Adam and Abel actually did meet her for the first time when they became Head Exorcists. And their backgrounds with Lute in the Heavenly realm actually matters for the actions they take with her in the future.
>>155045152Bugcuck you're delusional. Sometimes I wish I could just flop my girthy cock on your face to make you shut up.
>>155045190The porn is why you are too crazy for lore discussions.
>>155045212Says the man with the NTR fanfic he goons to. Cmon Bugcuck. Glass house and all that.
>>155045233Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel literally and canonically begin with NTR. Their Season 1 ends with the NTR being lore relevant.
>>155045262Oh you must love it sooooo much. You just gotta goon to NTR. It's make you so happy doesn't it you dirty little bitch.
>>155045279The only reason I can stand the NTR lore in Hazbin is because of Adam and Abel. I still despise Lucifer and Eve for doing it.
Speaking of Helluva, let's post some cute Imps.
>>155045359Dude you stroke your shit to your own NTR fanfic of a show. You're not beating the raped allegations.
>>155045382You only like perverted concepts.
>>155045398Not him but I like some perverted concepts.
>>155045398What you're saying doesn't mean much when you're our local NTR man. Why can't you like normal stuff? Do you seriously have to be a pervert?
>>155044365No.
>>155045410Examples?
>>155045419Looty if it's you sadly you have arrived too late. Bugcuck is having an episode.
>>155045440Daww :(But yes I see that.
>>155045424Well in general, a woman whose figure is such that her clothes nearly verge on ripping open. Some mind control is rather nice. Oh, and when they're overwhelmed with kisses.
>>155044833>>155044934I haven't heard of either of these. You guys wouldn't happen to have a source, would you? Do you at least know what panel?
>>155045458These aren't that perverted. It's kinda tame.
>>155045492I also enjoy the idea of somno, size and age gaps, and occasionally choking.
>>155045509Eh I'd same medium towards tame tier. That stuff isn't that extreme.
>>155042565This show is highly satanic because it has DEMONS and HOMERSEXUALS
I just realised that the next round of the Adam shipping tournament is probably gonna be GuitarSpear Vs GuitarQueen. Literally Lute(who's Eve) Vs Lilith. High chance Lute/Eve is gonna win and dunk on Lilith. It's like poetry it rhymes.
>>155045539Hmm. Breeding/Preg/Milking?Like, for example, Emily. She's great and awesome but if she was pregnant I'd literally just nonstop fuck her.
people who argue that lute is 'devalued' or it'd be demeaning for her to be eve are just revealing their misogynistic assumptions about eve and this goes for everyone. lute's only devalued by being eve if you think eve has no value and she's only demeaned by being eve if you think eve's existence is demeaning. we know absolutely nothing about eve as a person and any assumptions (and judgements based on those assumptions) about her personality only reveal the biases of the assumer.
>>155045875As a fetish I would describe that stuff as pretty tame/vanilla. A lot of breeding/pregnancy stuff is related to wanting a family unit of your own (spouse and kids). Not really anything that perverted.
>>155045899This. They've already decided what she's going to act like, and this goes for both Eve and Lute.
>>155045933Damnit, I thought I was more perverted than that. Hmm.
Do you guys think the spoiler was about Lute? I kind of feel like if it was about Al or Lucifer, someone would have clocked it by now....? The person also confirmed it was not Blake this time
>>155045969I think people are assuming it's about Lute because Jessika couldn't keep her mouth shut for awhile. The only other option is Erika who has kind of spoiled Charlie's S3 arc (she gets worse, apparently).
>>155044840god i wish
>>155045899>>155045952It kinda relates to Viv accidentally making a complete magnum opus by having Lute/Eve's fandom treatment parallel her Heaven treatment. She's literally forgotten or hated for her sin(apple in show and killing sinners from fandom). Is shoved into a complete new identity forcing her to reject her old one(in show as Lute while the fandom has every other important woman basically stealing her identity examples being Rosie, Lilith and Roo.) Nobody in heaven considers how impactful was Adam's loss for her while the fandom larps that she never loved him.
It's just a wet fart of a theory which is probably why it's true.
>>155045933where does omegaverse/mpreg fall in this umbrella of nuclear domesticity?
>>155046083A bit over medium leaning a bit towards degeneracy.
>>155046032>in show as Lute while the fandom has every other important woman basically stealing her identity examples being Rosie, Lilith and RooThat's because if Jessika hadn't basically spoiled it, the idea that Lute is Eve would still be an incredibly niche theory.
>>155046111Goes to show you that Viv can write a good twist if she really puts her mind to it.
>>155046111It's still pretty niche. I think I've seen more Rosie being Eve fanfics than Lute=Eve ones. That's objectively very telling.
>>155046149>>155046111Despite the fact that she already did spoil it, and people are still in denial, it's considered niche, etc. Etc, I would say that's pretty telling. The even funnier part about all this is that Jessica said that not only was this something she was not expecting, but the fans wouldn't either, meaning this is very much purposeful. I am impressed.
>>155045933Yeah I'm not sure breeding even counts as a fetish
I literally spoiled a major part of the show's lore and story. For the story part you'd think I'm crazy if I told you what will happen later down the line.
>>155046032>>155046111>Lute is EveHow is Lute supposed to be threatening then?
>>155046174There's still a lot of room to fuck it up, though I imagine that even if Lute wasn't Eve her fate wouldn't be changed (she either dies seething and everyone pities her or she realizes Adam wasn't shit, lets go and moves on).
>>155046194Bugcuck if it's you the only thing you spoiled is your own appetite for shit. Because that's what you've been eating for years.
>>155046205By being a crazy bitch.
>>155046205How is Adam threatening?
>>155046205>How is Lute supposed to be threatening then?I mean Lute as she is right now isn't much of a threat. She doesn't have any meaningful power behind her, she only has her anger. Presumably she gets some at one point since she's supposed to be a bigger threat further down the line.
>>155046250By being chunky (holy shit he's Moto Moto).
>>155046194No, you haven't Bug.
>>155043422...... Are you seriously not going to give the spoiler?
>>155046306we already got the spoiler it's twenty minutes of adam and charlie taking turns impregnating each other so they can have twins with half the effort keep up jeez.
>>155046404No Adam breeding Lilith? :(
>>155046222>>155046289I ain't Bugcuck lol. I'm just a guy that spoiled himself the lore and story of Hazbin Hotel. The story stuff I know would make you think I'm crazy.
>>155046418Ok. Drop the lore.
>>155046416no take-backsies for lilith, she had her chance.
>>155046418So then fucking drop the lore, dude.
>>155046431>>155046490He doesn't have anything anon.
>>155046466Her womb craves Adam cummies.
>>155046490It was going to be a Homestuck crossover but even Viv couldn't stand working with Andrew Hussie so Spindlehorse kicked that clown to the kerb
>>155046494Two anons.And I'm sure this guy, and the one that said they heard what the spoiler was and know which interview the person on Twitter is talking about, are just making shit up. Frankly, I think the person on Twitter is also making shit up.
>>155046536The twitter person is likely referring to something Jessika or Erika have said.
>>155046260Her being Michael would make more sense.
>>155046529Where the hell did you hear that? Wait is that why Spindle isn't working on Himes anymore?
>>155046551** Homestuck
>>155046516*stabbies
>>155043335>>155043380Looty here. This is all the "spoilers" we know so far. I do know about these. I haven't heard anything else though
>>155046547The reason for Adam gaining so much weight in Heaven was because Lute/Eve was such a Semen demon that she drained Adam of so much cum he would lose weight from just that. Without his little rib Wife to drain him he got fat.
>>155046551The crossover thing is a lie but it's true that Homestuck is not working with Spindlehorse any more. Hussie's spokeswoman said that the plan was Spindle was 'always' just doing the pilot and the real thing would be done by someone else and that they are in talks with a totally different company to make it. They have parted ways. No official reason given why but Andrew Hussie and the official Homestuck team is notoriously fucking awful to work with in any capacity
>>155046565>The comic Absolutely hilarious
>>155046599I don't... not believe this, but I don't think this is what the person on Twitter was supposedly talking about. They specifically said it was about a twist.
>>155046596What is wrong with you?
>>155044551>No.
>>155046611Adam would need more than one brain cell to do this. People love to overhype him than what he actually is. He's a moron.
>>155046624I know. I was just saying fake shit
Why can’t Lute be Michael?
>>155046637They seem very reasonable to me. Mister Zestial is Cain, Lilith is Eve, Lute is Michael (which was Looty's idea) and Adam wants to be like Abel.
>>155046657Shut the fuck up already.
>>155046642True. He'd just say something incredibly retarded to Lilith and then he would just fuck off. Lute would be the one to permanently castrate Lilith. Double so if she's Eve pretending to be an exorcist.
>>155046657Because she's already Eve, Lilith, Rosie and Roo.
>>155046681Michael Lute would do it to spite Lucifer.
>>155046659Bugcuck...
>>155046681Eve isn't pretending to be an exorcist. She is THE Exorcist, the blueprint for the rest.
>>155046697We're losing him even more. He's growing desperate.
>>155046693Lute is Eve by the way. Hope this helps.
>>155046431>>155046490Sinners forms are determined by the Seven Deadly Sins. Vox, Pentious and Alastor are Pride sinners who took after Lucifer (mainly his full demon form.) Look at their fingers, their outfits and in Alastor's case his staff.
>>155046709He needs correction rape. Adamsisters your time is now.
>>155046711Nah. Eve doesn’t have doll and toy motifs. Lute and Lucifer do.
>>155046728Isn't Pentious's main sin sloth though? Vox and Al look like Lucifer because they all follow Viv's Tumblr sexymen template.
>>155046733Yup. Toys have nothing to do with it. Jessica already spoiled it on Twitter. You're welcome!
>>155046728Where did you supposedly get this information? Was this in the supposed interview where the voice actor spoils shit?
Would you watch the Angel show from 2011?https://files.catbox.moe/oq5y73.mov
>>155046709My theories are the only things changed and evolved upon the months. The others are clinging hard to old conclusions that desperately look for out-of-show evidence to prove them. But I go, “hmm, what if I flipped the Exorcist building upside down since Gravity did that. Are those Ms? Wait. Lute’s hair style. It’s an M.”
>>155046780Yep, see you guys? He's getting more and more desperate. He's going to get worse once we get the Lute Eve reveal in season 3. God help us all.
>>155046780And no, you literally took the idea from me just yesterday. Then you arbitrarily decided that her hair looks like an M. You do you though.
>>155046516and she can make her husband shapeshift into adam as a temporary relief from that craving but she isn't allowed the real thing ever again.
>>155046753Sir Pentious is a snake, something that is associated with Lucifer plus the fingers that all three characters share with Lucifer's full demon form is a dead give away.
>>155046780Obviously her hair is an M. It stands for Mother. You're welcome!
>>155046767Nope. It's a reliable theory I got from observation.
>>155046827it also stands for 'Man, adam has a great ass'.
>Adam waking up and getting told by Sera he will meet his new wife.>She takes him in front of a lake >Sera tells him "I think Eve likes you">Eve( who kinda looks like Lute) suddenly rises out the water >Female sung version of "Big and Chunky" plays >The small as fuck Eve pushing animals twice her size out of the way while she's heading towards Adam >Eve tells Adam "Damn boy you're enormous".
>>155046843I see. So it's your headacnon. What a waste of time. We're trying to find out what the alleged video with the voice actor that spoiled shit is. Stop wasting people's time dude.
>>155046812> Then you arbitrarily decided that her hair looks like an M.Look at it. It is an M.
>>155046848That too
>>155046814Bruh imagine being Lucifer and being told to shapeshift into Adam for sex. No wonder he has depression.
>>155046864Headcanon or not. It's so reliable that it borders on canon.
>>155046885Nope. Not interested in fanfiction. Go away now
>>155046895Lute Eve is fanfiction.
>>155046816>Sir Pentious is a snake, something that is associated with Lucifer Ok? But his sin is sloth not pride. They show literally tells us that.
>>155046897You keep telling yourself that. Whatever makes you feel better.
>>155046897Bugcuck our resident Fanfiction writer calling plausible theories fanfics. Ironic.
>>155046913It legitimately is. And it’s not even good. It overlooks the entire heaven and hell system to suggest Heaven would even care about a powerless sinner Eve at all.
>>155046897>Was not talking about either Lute or EveOh, you poor poor little fool. This shit is really getting under your skin, huh? You're definitely worried. This is gold.
>>155046927Now he's the one pivoting conversations to Eve or Lute, even when the topic is something completely different. This is definitely worrying him lol
>>155046910Wait, Belphegor has multiple eyes. Sir Pentious has multiple eyes. However, Sir Pentious' design suggests he's partially in Hell for Pride.
>>155047033Pentious is in hell because he refused to take action.
>>155047042Which falls under sloth.
Zestial’s design resembles Satan. Suggesting him to be a very wrathful person despite his calm demeanor.
>>155047052No.
>>155046877>lilith makes lucifer transform into adam>lilith lives out all her femdom fantasies, but then one day suddenly switches and starts being ultra subby>tells lucifer-as-adam to CNC her into oblivion while a clone of lucifer watcheswtf i love guitarqueen now.
>>155047033>>155047052Yawn
>>155047063He has Satan’s face. Four eyes, larger at upper row. The scaly lizard lips. A set of wings.
>>155047097Yawn
>>155046897Nobody was talking about that in this conversation, you stupid fuck
>>155047064It's not the same without the real Adam doing the fucking.
>>155046941>>155046927I’m genuinely confused at the thoughts of victory when pretty much three different factors of Lilith Eve, Serpent Seed Abel, and Michael Eve have much stronger in show support for them, and just one of them makes Lute Eve completely dysfunctional.At this point to me, Lute Eve is a sinking ship that never had any good theories in the first place. It legit is looking at a Twitter tweet too seriously and setting the other plotlines of the show on fire to bring it into favor. It’s the peak of delusional fangirl behavior that I just cannot understand.
>>155046023If it was about the Erika interview, I feel like she sort of spoiled Charlie's plot being following Lilith around all season and arguably that Charlie has a dark origin/creation story/darkness inside her of some kind. But I wouldn't call that a major plot twist reveal, just a potential suggestion of one.
>>155047160lilith can have the real adam when she earns him and not a day sooner. until then she must settle for the husband she chose over him.
>>155047237That is a major plot twist reveal.
>>155047240She's sad now.
>>155047249Sure, but I think she said it with enough plausible deniability that people might assume she's just talking about Charlie being born in Hell and part demon in general. But I may be remembering wrong.
>>155047194Yawn
>>155047194>Michael EveHe's losing it
>>155047279>>155047237This really wasn't a spoiler though? Not only that, but people were talking about it for a while. And on top of all that.... That goes almost hand in hand with the information from that one former crew member who worked on the pilot. This is not new information. The person on Twitter is making it seem like it's new info that hasn't been heard before.
Kissing Lilith's feet.
>>155047284Looty here... He actually took my idea lol they do say theft is the sincerest form of flattery, I guess? Said that my crack idea is pretty good and that it'll end up burning me? Never thought I'd get a compliment from the guy but you know. Life is unexpected that way
>>155047296> The person on Twitter is making it seem like it's new info that hasn't been heard before.Just like Looty
>>155047329What?? No, what did I say? I'll clear it up right now!
>>155047271good. if she doesn't want adam at his twunkiest she doesn't deserve him at his chunkiest.
>>155047317Without your idea of theft nothing could be built. Especially in the art world where references are king.
>>155047351Nobody wants Adam at his twunkiest. Give me muscly Adam or give me nothing
>>155047357You're right. I shall continue contributing to the cause
>>155047364A twunk is a Twink with actual defined muscle mass. A pre before the buff.
>>155047890I see...
>>155046827It stands for Muhammed. Islam is the canon religion of Hellaverse
>>155047991Adam will end the series having multiple wives. It all makes sense now.
>>155047351She and Adam would have made beautiful children.
>>155047296True. I think it may have been a lesser watched interview or more people would have caught something. Erika's is just the only interview I've seen where I felt like someone was saying more than they probably should.
>>155048039yes but she chose the oncelerfied onion from steven universe instead so she can lie in the bed she made.
>>155048564>onion from steven universeSTOP SAYING THAT. I HATE YOU
>>155048564Not a great choice in retrospect
>>155048618Okay but why the fuck to him and Lilith have the same hairstyle / bangs. It's so stupid.
>>155048632Common artist mistake where they make the parents resemble the child usually resulting in them looking like siblings so it looks like said child is a byproduct of incest.
>>155048671Unless Lucifer literally made another Lilith because he wanted the one Adam had... Hence Lilith and ""Lillith""
>>155048710Then what happened with the original Lilith?
>>155048751The one Lucifer made was the one that got cast down with him - hence Viv saying Lilith is a fallen angel, maybe? She's Rosie. Whereas the original Lilith... maybe she's the one that stayed in Heaven.I'm spitballing. I think I'm cooking. This all assumes Lute would be a third creation.And disclaimer: no Bugcuck, Lute is not Michael, she's not a bug blah blah blah. Make your own ideas and stop stealing mine.
I can understand Adam still having fans but I think you guys have developed a sort of shared delusion over him.
>>155048780Wait so was original Lilith always in heaven? Like after Lucifer got dropped into hell with Lilith 2.0 she basically became a permanent (non dead) resident of heaven?
>>155048806What do you mean?
>>155048806Explain?
>>155048806I think he's a one-braincell moron who doesn't know what's going on. Sam Haft said as much: he's boorish, ignorant and scary because he has a lack of consideration for others, but as a villain he's not impressive. He's childish and immature. Viv said he was inspired by Jack Black and that he also doesn't exactly know he's sexist. He's a dunce but the fandom wants him to be this misunderstood figure who's jaded / bitter with humanity, or some shit. Some people really think he'll be the big bad later on, denying the fact that he was fridged for Lute/Eve
>>155048820>Wait so was original Lilith always in heaven?I want to say yes. Idk I'm just really trying to reconcile Viv saying that she's a fallen angel around two years ago. But I just realized my shitty theory falls apart because Charlie literally says Adam's second bride's name is "Eve" so. Eh.
>>155048843Eve/Lute likes them stupid as fuck. She likes them totally himbo.
>>155048600because it's THE TRUUUTH >>155048806adam is a himbo who should get pregnant i agree
>>155048780>Make your own ideas. I own the ideasWhat delusional crap is this? God made Michael and owns the idea.
>>155049012Sigh, so you're going to continue stealing my ideas. Got it. kkkkk
>>155048632I think the head thing is because Lute, Lucifer, Eve, and Lilith are supposed to capture the appearance of the female image of God.
>>155049062No Bugcuck, shut the fuck up.
>>155049041You are seriously mad that I’m taking Michael Lute for myself because you’re not interested in going through with her?
>>155049090...what?
>>155047271Viv liked this fanart on bsky btw
>>155049108Michael Lute is a whole idea only somewhat thought about yesterday. And ever since I heard it, i really want to look more upon on it and consider what it means for the lore of Hazbin Hotel.
>>155043422Okay so apparently the OP on twitter reported it to Spindle like the brown noser they are and they're looking into it. So we ain't gon know shit.
>>155049144Yep. It was my idea, and I've had it for a while just didn't think it was worth sharing. But okieeee. You're welcome
>>155043692You need to be louder
Who will take Michael Lute in the Bugcuck and Looty divorce?
>>155049163Why haven’t you ever done anything with it?
>>155049210Your Honor, I move that Michael/Lute be removed from Bug’s custody immediately. As supporting evidence, I submit Exhibit A and B: Abel, Eve/Lilith. Given his documented treatment of them, I believe the court has more than sufficient grounds to rule in my favor. I rest my case.
>>155049233.... because I currently don't write fanfiction? Fuck kind of question is this.
Lute!Eve is in a world of pain, guys. Bring it
>>155049249So you concede you were married?
>>155049281I neither confirm nor deny that any such union legally occurred, your Honor.
>>155049292He certainly seems to keep you up all night.
>>155049300Can you stop shipping me with random women.
>>155049278This probably means Adam coming back to life won't happen till like... Season 4 or 5
>>155049305They would if you left said women alone.
>>155049210Michelle...
>>155049328No. Pls no.
>>155049332>>155049328I'm scared to ask.
>>155049305Exactly. Bugcuck is for the men. He's built for taking big manly cocks.
>>155049305Tsun-tsun
>>155049306I don’t think so. They can’t show things about the show way ahead of time. Just a season. But I bet a lot of things for Lute are going to be much worse in season 3 and only improve slightly because of Adam.
>>155049336Michelle Obama
>>155046416What would have happened if Lilith had become the Mother of Humanity instead
>>155049356The man in the dress
>>155049352Tangent but... who here knows / remembers that Jessica Vosk said Lute makes it to Season 5, and when they announced Season 5 months ago/last year, the instrumental of 'Gravity' was playing?Eve/Lute may be the big bad for Season 5
>>155049359A taller humanity. Maybe having an extra eye colour.
>>155049383This makes me so sad.
Lucifer’s body in season 1’s finale always looked weird. And Lute has similar-ish moments of body morphing at certain instances in season 1 and more so in season 2. Maybe they’re both altered by Roo in some way that causes this.
>>155049332>>155049336you took me making michael into a girl name much more seriously than i intended.
>>155049401You made it sound ominous
>>155049401I just imagine a negro Michelle Obama Lute. I don't wanna see that anymore.
>>155049379Season 1 and 2 builds up to Lute and Lilith being the big bads of season 3. Season 4 and 5 could have new villains or fallen heroes like Emily and Sera.
>>155049414Lute’s true identity is Michelle Obama
>>155049379What if Lute sees the fallen angels in season 4 and 5 that are still evil. And have to be killed.
Looty and Bugcuck are my telenovela.
>>155049484I'm mature enough to admit this is mostly how our interactions go.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcMWnNcOxg4
Has Bugcuck stopped believing in the bug theory?
>>155049556Looks like it. Or he may believe Michael is a bug now...?
>>155049567I like how he fixates on random shitposts for his theory of the month
>>155049733Funny that it's just Lute he focuses on when changing his theory. Everything else in his fanfiction saga has remained the same. He really doesn't want to admit Lute is Eve lol
>>155049743No, he's changed stuff before. Adam used to be a Messiah figure who would return in a blaze of holy glory and redeem everyone in his infinite love and wisdom.
>>155049780I know that, but that was back in Season 1. I meant more recently. Lute is the thing that keeps changing.
>>155049780>Messiah figure who would return in a blaze of holy glory and redeem everyone in his infinite love and wisdom.LMAO
Heaven has risen.Billions must fly.
>>155049556>>155049567Michael the bug angel.
>>155049743It is literally impossible for Lute to be Eve in Viv’s show.
>>155049888Yes yes, very smart. Good job.
>>155049888>>155049903Just fuck already.
>>155049780if he's just stealing from fanfiction can he steal from one where adam bottoms and gets pregnant please thanks.
>>155049917No, you.
>>155049948I think I would like to see Bottom and Mpreg!Adam fanfiction from Bugcuck. I approve.
Can a 30 year old queer latina and a pious man with a bad ear and a speech impediment find love on a Mongolian basket weaving forum? Find out on today's episode of Hazbin Hotel /co/ thread.
>>155050019Damn Looty a lot older than me.
>>155050019Bug isn't pious. He didn't grow up religious but thinks he knows more about the bible than people who actually grew up studying the bible
>>155050049Looty and I are the same age. Around 30 was the average age when the /trash/ threads took a poll a while back.
>>155050049Yes, I'm a hag. You are free to make fun. I am a spinster.
Looty is cutey and deserves to find someone who makes her happy. But it's probably not Bugcuck
>>155050110Thanks, but I'm actually an ugly fat bitch. I should work out some more instead of rotting my brain with Viv's shit...
>>155049963oviposition...
>>155050058I actually take my time with people that have very religious backgrounds. Like they’re saved in their 30s and later and then dedicated themselves for God for the rest of their lives.
>>155050120Don't be down on yourself. You're very charming and entertaining to talk to and you'll find someone>Inb4 people cry simpI'm a woman myself and married
>>155050166That means a lot, actually. Thanks. Sometimes a girl has to hear that shit. It's nice.
>>155050120Very odd contrast. I’m very charming and attractive in real life.
>>155050184I'm sure you think you are, mate.
>>155050184>Bug thinks he's attractive and charming irl
>>155050183We all have that little bit of the divine feminine in us even if you can't see it at first
>>155050208Not think. By thoughts I have much more negative image of myself that doesn’t match the reality others see of me.
>>155050242To the surprise of nobody. Most narcissistic schizophrenics do.
>>155050339Would it confuse you if I said I don’t like it.
Why does the schizo dude pretend he's on good terms with everyone where he can just strike up a chit chat about the weather or shit. Is he that delusional
>>155050436It's 4chan
Which way /co/?
>>155050436If you keep your mindset on vengeance and grudges, all that’s going to do is cause everything around you to pointlessly burn. And so God sends Christians that dare to keep their unforgiveness to hell. Forsakening them from the forgiveness they’ve initially received.
>>155050436Because he knows nobody likes him, so he thinks by pretending he's chill with everyone from time to time, it gets him more interaction. He does this a lot.
>>155050120These threads are proof that fat is not only not a dealbreaker but an actual selling point to a lot of people.
>>155050530My take is that you take the internet as not a place of interaction but a place of endless wars.
>>155050470if you flipped one of them around and posed them together they'd be perfectly aligned to fuck.
>>155049278>>155049306You see, if you take what Vosk said there, Lute being Eve, and the seemingly trustworthy leak of Adam and Eve being a villainous duo, this is how I see it going:To quote Alastor,> “You’ll never fill your cup. You’re broken from the start, no victory will be enough.”I think Lute/Eve will parallels Vox in many ways the more she steps into the villainous limelight. Even if she gets Adam back (as a zombie), her family reunited, a position of greater power in heaven, if she manages to kill one of the Morningstar’s, etc. It won’t be enough.She’s been this angry, this discontent for so long that nothing short of the utter destruction of Hell and the broken human race will do to grant her something close to peace.I see it playing out in S3 as well. If she and Abel do start working with each other, she might start like having him around. But she just cant accept the situation, even if she tries to.This will be her repeat undoing: she just can’t let things be, even if you can understand why.
>>155051308What if the Eve and Adam duo is actually from Lillith and the Adam Hallucination. Lillith to control Lucifer and Hell. The Adam hallucination to control Lute and maybe even Abel.
>>155051446
>>155051477Season 2 teased for Hell and Heaven to actually war. So it would be best for Eve and Lute to be the to main promoters of it, with them having different fates in the end.
If we’re learning about Lucifer’s past maybe it would introduce the fallout of angels that causes Lute to go insane.
>spelling errorHoly shit twitter is so assJust let him edit his fucking post
>>155051553Nope
>>155051308Being that she makes it until season 5 and the gravity instrumental played on the season 5 announcement trailer, I think Eve/Lute going to be the big bad of season 5
>>155051553You know what would be better? If Lute actually does make an attempt at living with the current situation, maybe even trying to rebuild her Earth relationship with Abel… but she can’t. She honestly tries, but as she said, she’s got a job to do.
>>155051761Yupp. This is it.
>>155051854>>155051761Possibly spurned on by Sera at the beginning of the season, who has taken what she’s learned from Pentious to try and reach out to her. She might encourage her to try living for the first time in so long, given she most likely knows she’s Eve.
So, Sera already did the whole... regrets the exterminations, the bloodshed, what heaven did, blah blah blah.... So what exactly is going to be her next arc for season 3? Apparently she's going to go through something again? Do you guys think it's related to Lute/Eve? It's never talked about, but we still don't know what she meant when she said that there's a lot more that Charlie doesn't know...
>>155051761I see Abel more so having that arc. The cracks start happening ironically when Vosk spoken about the gift baskets.
>>155052006Shut up about Eve. It’s honestly better if Lute does represent the angels that see the issues directly and upfront to compare her with Adam’s unique experiences with mankind as a mortal man.
>>155052128>The cracks start happening ironically when Vosk spoken about the gift baskets.Jessica Vosk has never spoken about the gift baskets. And Abel is a crybaby. That's the point.
>>155052145Shut the fuck up you filthy piece of shit. Lute is Eve. Cry about it like the whiny little bitch you are.
>>155052166I am moving up the names. I was talking about Vox and the gift baskets scene.I took it as the moment Abel realized none of the pleasures of heaven can make up for Adam’s death.
>>155052145Uh oh, Bug's getting testyyyyy. Someone grab the popcorn
>>155052215>I am moving up the names.I don't know what this means. Are you saying you misspoke previously? You said Jessica Vosk spoke about the gift baskets. What is your source? Waiting.
>>155052145Nope. Jessica Vosk confirmed the theory. You're welcome
>>155052243Misspeaking. It’s Vox who talks about it in season 2.
>>155052257She didn’t confirm the theory.
>>155052310Yup she did. Lute is Eve. Educate yourself.
>>155052296Got it.
>>155052025Hiding Lute being Eve, I reckon
>>155052314No. What she did is do a tease on if Lute is actually Eve or not and that causes massive issues simply because nothing of this sort should be clarified.
>>155051308>She’s been this angry, this discontent for so long that nothing short of the utter destruction of Hell and the broken human race will do to grant her something close to peace.Yes, Jessica Vosk has said on more than one occasion Lute needs serious therapy. Viv also said that she doesn't feel she receives the respects she should get and how the world doesn't help her with her problems. Which makes sense. Nobody ever listened to Eve, save for Adam (stick it to the man, all that) - now he's gone, and she's got nothing. I fear Abel isn't on her side though?
>>155052364Nope. She confirmed the theory, hence why she had to deleted since that was an NDA violation. This is information given to her presumably since the beginning since she's been alluding to this since the beginning, on top of the fact that a review website has made mention of this. Lute is the genesis Eve. She gave birth to Abel and ate the fruit.
>>155052145> Shut up about EveMake me, ya little bitch.
>>155052369> Abel is not on her side though?Depends on how much he knows and what he learns. If Lute opens up to him and tells him the truth - including some stuff heaven kept under wraps - he might develop a crisis of conscience and loyalty.
>Bug: sHuT uP aBoUt EvECry harder, pussy.
>>155051553>>155052145
>>155052532Have you heard the Lute is Michael theory yet?
>>155052643Magic Man is my friend, you moron. I can explain it to them on discord. You know. The idea you stole from me?
>>155052643Why are you acting like Looty's theory is yours to explain? You didn't come up with it.
So do we know what the spoiler was or no
>>155052688Nope! There's someone who thinks they know what the OP was talking about, but it's not from a video. There's yet another user who claims the same, but they say it's just random rumors, something about someone switching sides, Abel and Mimzy dying etc
>>155052718Here's the other person.
>>155052718Sorry for clarification: the first one is from a video (an interview/panel from Amir) - not sure which.>>155052731This person... they say they saw these on a twitter post. Not sure where they got it.
>>155052390Look at the post and the Lillith situation.OG Eve left the house to be an edgy chick and dropped her name behind.Lute is very different from Eve for very obvious reasons. Including race and appearance. That has been with Adam likely since he’s been in Heaven.
>>155052864Nope, we aren't interested in fanfiction. Go post that Wattpad
>>155052670>>155052681Let’s see. Nah I’m taking it. I’m clearly much more passionate about it.
>>155052884Right, the one you stole. You're really not a good writer or storyweaver.
>>155052731That Alastor and Vox scene has to be real.
>>155052909That would actually be wild.
>>155052877Lute Eve is that fanfiction. You had come up with a whole origin story for Eve to become Lute while I pretty much erase anything like this by a much simpler story.
>>155052930>simpler story
>>155052942>Michael has trauma from doing her job by whatever Lucifer, Hellborn, and the sinners do or have done.>Adam gets into heaven centuries as the first human winner. He takes in the issues caused by mankind and Hellborn a lot better. Is assigned to be the head Exorcist because of this.>Michael is very much against this but has to accept it..
>>155053658Yawn. How convoluted! I suggest doing a second draft of your fic.
>>155053690What is this reaching?
>>155053720That's okay. We don't all start as professional fanfiction authors. I can point you to some writing resources and religious sites to help with your research. Otherwise, good luck!>>155051308>I think Lute/Eve will parallels Vox in many ways the more she steps into the villainous limelight.This was definitely implied when they spoke about the flood. I also think they're an argument to be made about Eve/Lute paralleling Vaggie's arc. I think their beef is personal, just not in the way the fandom thinks. Eve sees too much of herself in Vaggie, I think.
>>155053764Lute strikes me an angel angel with the reference to the Flood and Charlie being an “abomination”.The flood is a wrath that Abel and Adam completely missed. But it involves angels procreating with mankind. Creating the nephilim and getting the angels that performed the act banished to Hell. It was the time when Mankind used all of the advanced and knowledge the angels taught them to go all out in their wickedness.
>>155053858I'm not talking about fanfiction anymore! But thanks for your contribution. Don't need it! We're talking about canon now! Let me know if you need to resources.
>>155053881That is the literal biblical canon and myths about the days of Noah that led to Noah’s flood.
>>155051308>She’s been this angry, this discontent for so long that nothing short of the utter destruction of Hell and the broken human race will do to grant her something close to peace.Yeah, Sam Haft confirmed that Lute/Eve wants to wipe the slate clean. Jessica also said that "I'm here to finish what I started." holds a lot of significance for her. She's referring, most likely, to her ongoing efforts to atone both herself and Adam. Though that does catch my interest. I want to know if Adam ate the apple... He wouldn't necessarily have had to, to stand by her side, right?
>>155053904That's the spirit! You're so good at doing research already. Your fic will thrive if you keep at it!
>>155053914> I want to know if Adam ate the apple... He wouldn't necessarily have had to, to stand by her side, right?He didn’t. That’s by the reference to him making no mistakes.
>>155053914"For those of us with divine ordainment, Exterminations are entertainment!" This makes me think him and Eve/Lute already *had* pardon, though?
>>155053929It’s pretty odd how glass-like your ego is. And to top it off, Lute Eve never was a good fanfic. The themes of divorce are relevant to Adam and Lucifer within this show. And having to move on from either being incompatible or simply by the ex refusing to repent.
>>155053974I do genuinely enjoy your fic, though! I think your approach to the divorce themes is really interesting. Keep at it!
>>155054005Lute doesn’t wear Adam’s halo until after she comes up to Lillith Eve and shows her Adam’s halo. Lillith Eve refused to pick it up or react when Lute said Adam died. Lute orders Eve to leave the makeshift Eden that’s supposed to be the place Adam and his lover dwell in and command over.
>>155054032Gotcha! I actually like how you’ve structured that sequence in your fanfic. Good job!
>>155054063Does female Michael really upset you a lot?
>>155054076Your female Michael interpretation is interesting! I’m curious how you plan to develop her role in the fic. Can't wait! You got this!
>>155054090She will take in Abel almost as an adopted son and Abel is going to have a choice between Emily and Lute, like he did in season 2. And he will eventually pick Lute [and Adam’s “will”] over Emily.
>>155054132Great, can't wait to read that fanfiction!
>>155054141So what do you expect Abel to do in season 3?
>>155054164Are we not discussing your fanfiction(s) anymore? :(
>>155054180So you have nothing for him?
>>155054197I want to keep discussing your colorful and creative fanfiction!
>>155054180Also, what are your thoughts on why Adam is alive in the season 2 card of fancy dress. And his reason for why he doesn’t reveal himself directly after his resurrection.
>>155054206Creativity and humbleness are the main ingredients to make good theories. So where are they from you?
>>155054212>>155054219Nahhh so you can take them? I'd rather much see what more you can come up with on your own. All your fanfics are great!
>>155042598Probably parroting what's already been said. There have been no significant lore updates or leaks. I'm pretty sure this person was just wanting some clout.
>>155054237Okay for real. You seriously have never thought about Adam and Abel outside of Lute Eve world?
I just realized this means Lute’s Exorcist mask is revealing that her real face is like Lucifer’s. No nose.
>>155054250>>155054320See! You're doing so good! Can't wait to read the finished fanfiction! Let us know when it's up!
That Exorcist building in season 2 is a spoiler machine. It has two puzzles within it. Flip if around like in Gravity to see the M. And the Vs between the E looking structures, which were used for the Ms, form E V E. And at the right side of the building, instead of Adam, the face of the Exorcists (the army of Heaven) is Lute and her sword.You have the massive Michael implications by Lute being the true and intended leader of the Exorcists before Adam and Abel took her seat. And the reveal of her future name.So, she will reveal her name to be Michael when she exterminates. And land on the ground to the see the Adam catching her fall.
So get it. The reason why the Es were placed in the weird way they did is because they’re supposed foreshadow Lute’s names and her name change from Michael to Eve.
>>155055349Good job on that fanfiction! Can't wait to read it once you post it!
>>155056049I’m confused by the triggering.
>>155056131What triggering? I said I enjoy your fanfiction! Good job!
>>155057046Adam must be like a giant bean bag/body pillow combo.
>>155053764Ya see, that’s hilarious, cuz if we go by the idea the Exorcists are basically clones of Lute/Eve, then it becomes more true than you think. Vagi is basically a part of her that she tried so hard to squash.
>>155057481Exactly. And Vaggie's whole thing is about how she doesn't have an identity outside Charlie. Sound familiar?
If Lute is Eve then it's really funny when you see a shipping war between Flowertunes and GuitarSpear. It's basically that Fight Club scene where the narrator is fighting Tyler Durden but he's actually just hitting the air or punching himself.
>>155057046>>155057228>ywn sleep completely safe under the arm and wing of a giant warm squishmallow of a man.why fucking live
>>155057524I mean even before he arrived in heaven and got chunky he must have been real nice for hugging or cuddling. Eve definitely enjoyed having a huge man to chill with in a cave.
>>155057543Nothing better than cuddling up with a man, feeling his heartbeat and his sleepy breathing, and maybe even some morning wood gently poking you
>>155057543>adam and eve stuck in a cave waiting out a horrible storm >there's so much loose gravel and rock that it's almost impossible to sleep comfortably >he picks eve up and lets her sleep on him instead>flashforward to lute in the present overhearing people talk about how obviously adam must've been such a dick to eve too
>>155058583This is sweet. Next time they get caught out like that she pays him back and lets him rest his head in her lap.
>>155058301What happened here?
>>155058721I guess it's after Lilith left him?
>>155058934Oh
>>155050120Literally all you need to do is become an actual Adamfag and you'll have easy pickings.
>>155042565>Click thread hoping to find what the OP was hinting at, so many possibilities>Thread celebrity cancer infests the rest of the replies with more bullshit Lute is Eve cope and fightingFor fucks sake you bitches have already colonized the Hazbin thread with your mind cancer, but you fucks had to bring this shit here? This is why I don't bother with the other thread anymore >it could be about eve!It could, or it could be about Roo, Rosie, etc. Instead this entire conversation is dominated by the same inane screeching
>>155059216Who here said the spoilers could be about Eve? You would quickly realize that there's only speculation about what the spoilers were because the brown nosing op on Twitter from the screenshots, didn't say shit. So yeah the thread is going to devolve to other topics. If you don't like it, make your own thread. Stop being so fucking whiny good Lord
>>155059216>Hazbin thread, now you have to bring that here?... This is the Hazbin thread. You all right there buddy? Did you not get your beauty sleep? Did you have too many bitchflakes for cereal today or something?
>>155059216Nobody said the spoilers could be about Eve. Get out of here, tourist.
>>155059216here:https://x.com/MatthewBarona4/status/2088354604324921703
>>155059240>Muh stop being whiny >Stop calling out how annoying we areNo, fuck you and your thread celebrity clique that dogpiles on people. It's so calculated how you horde of retards pile on whenever someone disagrees with you
>>155051308>>155051761>>155052006It also really works from Abel’s side of things. Lute makes it clear what her issues with Abel is, but how about his problem with her? Cuz these two do not see eye to eye.I don’t think Abel yet knows who she is, though like Adam, he might have an inkling he can’t shake. At the very least, he might see how close Lute was to Adam and how she felt about him, and saw it as her trying to take his mother’s place. That old psychological chestnut. Ironic, I know, heh heh.On top of that, though he hasn’t seen his mother in thousands of years, I’ve no doubt he still has a general memory of what she was like. And if we theory that Eve was a badass, vicious Amazonian warrior-type who most likely was not easy on Abel for being soft, then in the present day, Abel sees a lot of his mother in Lute, which is Not necessarily a good thing.> “You’re mean, you’re nasty, you constantly lash out at me and everyone else for no reason… GOD, you’re just like my mo…!”> Abel catches himself and turns away, but Lute has already caught it and she turns to face him with dagger eyes.> “Finish. That. Sentence.”> “… grrr, you’re just like my mother! There I said it!”Lute is both apoplectic and inwardly laughing her ass off.
>>155059294abel preferring adam over eve because he was still somehow 'the nice parent' despite still being adam would be the funniest darkest thing. it IS adam he thinks about when struggling to do what's right even though he's scared.
>>155059216Lol
>>155059293>fuck you and your thread celebrity clique that dogpiles on people>It's CALCULATED because a lot of people don't like my takes !!!111No guy: your takes are really just that bad. There's no conspiracy going on here. I don't... Even know how you would calculate that, unless you're implying that we're either a hive mind or we talk outside of 4chan. I assure you, we do not. Are you going to continue to whine, or are you going to make your own thread? Or are you one of those serial complainers that complain about the topic in a thread, then you're asked to contribute a different topic, then you throw tantrum and say no, because why would you talk to people who want to discuss the show.Can't wait to see which one!
>>155059293You're only mad because the current posters post about a topic you don't care about. If we all talked about your favorite character and your favorite theory all the time you wouldn't give a fuck
>>155059312Yeah I'm pretty sure both of them were shitty parents but Adam, being the dad, was the more cool/fun parent. Eve was the more strict parent. That's why he says, it'd be easier if you or anyone else as Lute's reflection comes into his eyes. Foreshadowing: that's his mommy
>>155059374And the guy doesn't even say what he wants to talk about! He just wants to complain. Mfer can't even pick a lane lmao
Am I high as shit or did I really read that the bug guy thinks he's attractive and charming in real life? Holy delusional incel.
>>155059216We're waiting... No change of topic? Nothing? Okay, then we're just going to continue talking about Eve lol I don't know what you expected
>>155059377imo adam was unable to really see abel as anything but 'the little one' and babied him as a result, and this stayed the same in heaven too. you'd have thought adam would be all over toughening abel up but instead he knows NOTHING about weapons or war strats or even what adam was up to with the exterminations (given he's shocked at the brutality of the killing, meanwhile adam was down to nuke vaggi on the promenade in front of everyone so he wouldn't have been shy about the gory details if he thought they were neat). adam never saw fit to teach abel about violence because he never expected - and perhaps never wanted - abel to have anything to do with it. abel's also openly into 'girly' shit like scented candles and unicorn polo, which you think a guy like adam would come down on him hard over, but he's not ashamed of it or cautious about it at all like he might be if he knew adam disapproved of that kind of thing. if adam did bitch about it, it was probably for lute's ears only. he just let abel do his thing. meanwhile to abel, this reads as adam being kinda distant and not trusting him to do anything right, and not wanting to spend any time with him. so when lute says 'adam didn't fucking like you!' he has every right to agree.
>>155059469Sorry I meant to say: It would be easier if I were anyone else.
>>155059469No offense, this makes it seem like Adam tried to be a good dad. I don't think that was the case and I don't know why the fandom copes hard by trying to make him as such. Viv outright says that he was not among his favorite children. I'm okay if he was just a bad dad
>>155059482i'm not really saying that though - i'm just trying to make sense of abel's personality vs adam's personality, while keeping in mind 'sharp pointy things!' and him confidently joining in for 'like you'. like i said, abel has every right to think adam didn't like him. by all accounts he had access to including his own, adam didn't like abel. a lot of abusive parents think what they're doing is perfectly justifiable, but don't register how they're actually affecting their kids. that's what i'm saying - adam's actions were justified from his perspective, but just ended up hurting abel in a different way.
>>155059544I don't think he was ... Malicious like you said, but I also think he was conscious of the fact that he just didn't like this kid. Also, Sam did say that Abel is extremely sheltered, that he's been in heaven for a very very very very long time, apparently St. Peter is also pretty sheltered (way to go Viv) so I assume he died young, and has been in Heaven for a very long time. Adam didn't teach him because he didn't want to waste his time and probably didn't see it as worth it, because Abel is that much of a dumb dumb
>>155059559Purposefully malicious/abusive, I mean
>>155059216I actually developed my theory about Lute as secretly being Michael in Hazbin’s setting. And her M initial being displayed as the grey lines on her hair.It makes way more sense than Lute Eve or any other Lute identity theory ever did.
>>155059574Do you still believe in the bug theory?
>>155059574Lol You didn't develop anything. You stole Looty's idea. It's very telling that not only are her crack ideas alone much better than the shit you come up with on the daily, but the fact that you showcase your agreement on the matter by literally taking it for yourself. And you bastardized it on top of that. And the telenovela continues
>>155059482>>155059544Serpent Seed Abel has to be the explanation of this oddity of Adam’s behavior.Cause exposing Abel to war and weapons could trigger the curse between Eve’s seed and the serpent seed. But then Adam bizarrely makes himself up into a Lucifer knock off but fat. The only winner Adam saw in heaven was Abel. And he decided to accept the position of being the Head Exorcist. The job position that would allow him to protect Abel and future winners.
>>155059651No.
>>155059651Not this stupid shit again. God, your theories are so ass. You make Viv seem like a competent writer.
>>155059559yeah like people do see 'not the favourite' and take it in a very loaded aggressive sense. >>155059651invoking my adamsapple mpreg baby theory which explains this in exactly the same manner and adds in adam having severe undiagnosed and untreated ppd following abel's birth as a motivator for abel not being his favourite. it makes as much sense as serpentseed does.
>>155059680Oh God, yay, it's the mpreg Lute/Eve theorist. You're fun.
>>155059713Milky
>>155059680Dare I say mpreg Adam is better
>>155059713>>155059717i've been here the whole time >>155059724yes that is the theory, adam births abel.
>>155059638He's not going to acknowledge that anymore. He knows he's whack. He's also giving himself away by trying to get Loot to suck his dick. It's still not working.
>>155059608Yes. But I’m not sure if it’s just thematics or Lute’/Michael is a literal dragon bug queen. After all, the doll and mannequin features her, the exorcists, Charlie, and Lucifer have are merely thematic.
>>155059752>i've been here the whole timeI know, you're ubiquitous
>>155059668>Adam actually loved Abel the most and his actions and devil-like appearance are inspired by this love for him. He tried to defy Abel’s destiny of warring against mankind only for his death to ironically be the start of Abel fulfilling it.>You: *Screech*
We haven't milked Adam in a while. His poor swollen tits must be so sore...
>>155059872This is unironically coming from the guy who REEEEEs at Lute being Eve lol
>>155059872Aren't you the guy that told magic dude to shut up about Lute being Eve? Self-awareness: zero
>>155059768Looty has one good idea for Lute she never took seriously and then makes piles for about Lute Eve and her being the biggest villain ever with the most questionable origin story ever.
Congrats, Viv.
>>155059938Well that stinks
>>155059914It’s our Sans is Ness. Eventually it would be the biggest joke in the fandom in season 3’s release for completely different reasons.
Speaking of Lute being Michael wasn't her design taken from Zoophobia's Gabriel? https://zoophobia.fandom.com/wiki/GabrielWould make sense if adam was repurposed from Adina. Wonder if that's why adam was redone as frat boy jack black. Being a judge frollo type reckoner like Adina would have been a downer or something. Wish they kept the original idea of tormenting sinners with their sins instead of the permadeath we got.
>>155059457I mean the guy is definitely delusional. Him gaslighting himself into thinking he's awesome is pretty much a requirement otherwise he would probably rope himself if he had a bone of self reflection in his body.
>>155060077How ashamed would your parents be when they see your encouragements of suicide on the vulnerable?
>>155060037They are definitely the main inspirations of Lute, Adam, and the Speaker. It’s pretty funny how badly Viv has to villainize them super hard because it’s the only way she can make her literal demon main characters look good.
>>155060037So we would have potentially gotten Gabriel and a dragon as leaders of the army?
>>155060199Abel is the dragon. He just hasn’t shown it off yet.
>>155059901if you shook adam hard enough eventually he'd extrude butter.
>>155060287No he's not, you schizophrenic piece of shit.
>>155060287>Fat fuck>He's somehow a dragon Adam's understandable. Abel not so much.
>>155060365adam's a dragon while abel has a dragon-sona who fucks 'emmaline' in his private fanfiction.
>>155060365Abel is the son of who is described as a dragon, Lucifer. And bipedal dragons are often drawn and depicted as fat.
>>155060397Adam is one with a dragon sons to cosplay as. Abel has a human sona.
>>155060405Nice fanfiction. When are you going to finish it?
>>155060397Emmaline?
>>155060166Nah id say they were nerfed. Turning their motivations for the exterminations from an honor before reason zealous overcorrection of their version of good that mirrors real world extremism and provided beautiful commentary into two dimensional high-school bullies who get the kicks kicking the weirdos down was such a downgrade! I think we salvaged some of the former with Sera as she learned the error of her ways and discovered what she thought was right was wrong. Wonder if that's where sera came from. Split the female head angel from adina and put that zealotry into what became adam which Amazon tempered into a fan favorite goof.>>155060199I would believe so if we stuck to the original angels and demons concepts. Hell Adinas protégé was a shapeshifting dragon named Fitch. https://zoophobia.fandom.com/wiki/FitchI bet that is where dragon adam came from and he would have shapeshifted into a more human from as we saw of sera and Emily. Oh and we'd have chainsaws! https://zoophobia.fandom.com/wiki/Chainsaw
>>155060611It’s fanfiction Emily
>>155060635Oh. Is she slightly more light skinned?
>>155060662Darker
>>155060630The speaker might be gaslighting Sera
So Skye confirmed in a stream that Viv / they in general don't engage with theories or content online that are close to what's gonna happen in the show.Lucifer/Alastor is dead
>>155060818I wouldn’t bet anything off of social media interactions.The only things that would be related to what happens to the canon are going to be actual theories and predictions. Not fanarts and shipping.
>>155060818Demonstrably untrue even just looking at some of Viv's likes pre-season 2. Even the engagement with Huskerdust alone when it isn't technically canon yet. But whatever helps people sleep at night. Season 3 is going to kick this fandom's ass and I can't wait.
>>155060964I don’t see anyone being spared in season 3.My predictions essentially is me prepared for the balloon pop way ahead of time and the radio apple fangirl that would benefit from dismissing Lilith Eve theory instead helped out in it, with a great point about the Lillith name, to demonstrate that Lilith and Lucifer were drifting apart.
>>155060959I don't know because Viv tends to like a lot, and I mean a lot of Lucifer/Alastor and Lucifer/Adam for it to be canon. But eh I guess we'll see either way
>>155061018People really need to get used to Rosie is Lilith and Lucilith divorce or they'll end up crying about it. Radioapple isn't a done deal but people also need to get used to that possibility. Or at least that they'll be important to each other because the number of people in sheer denial that they'll have major interaction in 3 even after the season 2 ending is hilarious.
>>155061069For Alastor, I see the ship happening.With Adam, she fangirls about his history with Lucifer in season 1 commentary. They’re going to at least be a fujo-bait ship.
>>155061069Viv mostly gives energy to her canon or at least semi--canon ships and Radioapple even eclipses most of those in what she likes. If it isn't canon, it breaks her mold big time. That could be the case, but there's an easier answer.
>>155061124I don't necessarily disagree, and I know I probably sound like a schizo but... It just seems weird to me that she openly likes these things, meaning the fan art and the ships. It feels like if this really was going to happen, that would be giving away the spoiler. To the person who mentioned Husk/Angel... Okay but that was hinted at within the pilot though, at the very end when Angel winks at him. So it was kind of obvious they were going to be the designated pair. That wasn't really giving anything away.
>>155061092I think she would have fujo-baited Lucifer/Adam in the alternate universe where she spent more time on Adam when he was alive like she wanted. But I think the ship sailed. Maybe she'll tease something if we get full Eden flashbacks.
>>155061092Really? It generally feels like the two barely interacted. Like it might be Viv brain where she feels these two have a deep history but the show somehow ends up portraying it as barely acquaintances that haven't seen eachother after Lucifer got sent to Hell.
>>155061156With other creators I would agree but Vivziepop always seems like she's chomping at the bit to talk about her shit and gets disgruntled when fans don't pick up what she's trying to put down. So it wouldn't surprise me if she was "subtly" nudging fandom in the right direction. Especially when she can hide behind the plausible deniability of her posts about her likes not meaning anything. She probably thinks she's covered.I 100% can see her talking some shit about how she oh so cleverly tried to give signals about certain directions in the post-series commentary down the line. She's like that.
>>155061157Probably for the better we didn't get any Adam X Lucifer shipping bait. Adam's male ships are kinda dog shit and I don't trust Viv when it comes to setting it up. Adamsapple is kinda complete trash in the current show but it's one upside is that it's not super popular like RA so you don't see it constantly.
>>155061187Lucifer’s and Adam’s history in Eden is much longer than it seems in the show because we barely get anything Eden related.Lucifer admitting he had sex with Eve explains why Eve looks so sad and alone in the very first scene we get of her in season 1. Adam found out and crashed out.
>>155061272No Bugcuck. I don't care.
>>155060818Viv gave a teasing little response to someone's theory that Lucifer got burned protecting Lilith from the Fall and I can almost guarantee that will happen so technically she spoiled something. It's not a perfect science and they're not that hardliner.
>>155061081Yeah. Rosie Lilith and her divorce with Lucifer is pretty obvious. By default it makes Adam and Lillith/OG!Eve a parallel to Lilith tossing away Lucifer.
>>155061256Yeah that's fair. I can see that
>>155061272No Bug. Take your shitty crusty ass takes and shove them up your dick hole. Nobody wants them.
>>155061311You have to care because it’s Viv’s dumb ntr and yaoi spam lore.
>>155061335Keep talking to yourself buddy. There, there.
>>155061362People that see the writing on the wall would agree. Viv is predictable by what she does in Helluva Boss.
>>155061367No bug. We don't care about your shit. You lack media literacy. You are dismissed. Good day.
>>155061323Pretty sure it's just an idea a fan mentioned and she might steal because it sounds cool. It really doesn't make much sense since those black marks are also on Adam's arms and Lucifer just has it on his limbs when logically the chest area should be the most affected.
>>155061387Right, like how she debunked the convoluted twin theory in helluva boss. Yup. And how she said the Adam and Eve story will be explored through a critical female lens, and then says that Lute is the embodiment of feminine rage and a science for a very feminist song. Yes, She is absolutely spelling it out. Glad you're catching on.
>>155061394Those are gloves. No way people think Adam has burn marks.
Fine, I'll spoil it for you: Charlie Morningstar is an adopted child and not the genuine offspring of Lucifer and Lilith, it explains why she's considered a hellborn demon in status despite supposedly being a hybrid of fallen angel and demon (which is false).
>>155061413It's literally drawn the same in the show. It's just Viv's "looks cool" shit.
>>155061394If she planned to steal it, she wouldn't engage. The response she gave had more of an air of "I'm not saying you're onto something but..." Like she was throwing fandom a little spoiler as a treat.
>>155061436So she's a creation of Hell? Why does she look like the duck midget though?
>>155061397Her shows mock the tropes they perform. And when it comes to Eve/Lioth and Lute. Those two were face to face in season 1’s finale. And they both want a war between Heaven and Hell.
>>155043335>Charlie will regress into a sad child because of LilithSo she will be both useless and sad? Then what is the point of keeping her around?
>>155061436She is the daughter of Evil/Roo, the embodiment of evil. The thing that was in the fruit that Eve ate. This was actually hinted at by a former employee who worked on the pilot
>>155061460He's having a psychotic episode.
>>155061460Right, so anyway, Jessica confirmed that Lute is Eve. That's why they made fun of the twin theory. Glad you're catching on.
>>155061442No. It’s because Abel inherited it from Lucifer and Adam purposely emulates it.
>>155061455tbf i sometimes wonder about rosie having those same marionette blush stickers and wonder if that's connected to charlie somehow. like rosie's a prototype charlie or something.
>>155061436Her appearance, demon form, and powers we've seen so far match Lucifer's. She's his kid or direct part of him creation in some way. The other half is the question.
>>155061473He actually thinks they're make fun of the tropes that they're going to do? Good lord. I didn't think he would get any worse
>>155061446Exactly. She's making it sound like it already was her idea but it's probably gonna add it after hearing about it. Plausible deniability and all that.
>>155061493That's just a design choice? Same reason why Viv gives most of her female characters that general same eye shape and lashes. Also, Rosie does have a prototype character from zoophobia. It's Hilda.>>155061496It's not into question. She has a red arm. That's not Lucifer or Lilith. That's Roo. She is her daughter.
>>155061446Lucifer has the darkened limbs on his lower legs.It’s actually taken from mannequins and them having limbs discolored from the body that enable better possible posing.
>>155061493Actually a neat idea. Like I wonder if they also raised Rosie and she's technically Charlie's older sister in both ways. Maybe she was less sheltered and they overcorrected with Charlie.
>>155061506Because they do. All of the time even.
>>155061496>>155061522Lillith has Charlie’s nose in season 1’s finale. Which was initially set up for Lillith season 2.
>>155061526Bug shut the fuck up. You're giving everyone brain cancer
>>155061559>>155061544Yes, yes bug,. Ooooh the puppy nose. Ooooh Zestial is Cain. Okay, stand over there in the corner and let the adults actually theorize about this stupid ass cartoon. You are ruining the discussion. Nobody wants to hear your stupid shit.
>>155061564You can get one yourself if you like: https://www.etsy.com/listing/1741464397/linen-full-body-mannequin-female-dress
>>155061508Maybe, but I think she'd only do that because she's already going to show us Lucifer getting badly hurt protecting Lilith from the Fall next season, so it slots in neatly. Which is the meat of what was technically spoiled with that reply. They've been coy about the brutality of the Fall except the angels with spears scene in More Than Anything.
>>155061588Nice fanfiction. So when are you going to finish it?
>>155061578I want to see Adam and Lilith(actual Lilith) have breeding sex.
>>155061578The puppy nose gives you the same wild reactions as Michael Lute did.I don’t think you disagree with me. You just don’t like the outcome.
Nobody found that supposed spoiler huh?
>>155061632Michael is a man. Lute is not a man. You are retarded.
Which Hellaverse character is objectively the most beautiful?
>>155061640I'm pretty sure it was just bait.
>>155061647In universe, probably Lilith.
>>155061647probably emily, but she doesn't give erotic vibes so she's more pure maiden than seductress
>>155061647Verosika
>>155061642Except there are zero male Heaven born warrior angels in Hazbin. Michael would be like them.
>>155061614What would their kids look like
>>155061647stella and it's not even close.
>>155061661Wait we're grading on actual looks or in universe looks?
>>155061640I still think it was Erika basically saying Charlie has a dark origin. People claim it's shipping related but that isn't what twodream or whoever said. I don't think ships are plot twists.
>>155061647Lillith
>>155061632I do disagree with you. I don't know how one can make that any clearer to you. And then again, you're narcissistic so, you'll only hear what you want to hear. Lute is Eve. You're welcome!
>>155061647In-universe it's Lilith, I mean come on she is the queen of hell.>>155061671A mere succubus doesn't compare.
>>155061697>>155061640There's rumors, but because the original poster refuses/declines to say what the interview was, nobody knows. The guesses are something to do with Charlie, because of something Erica said. Alastor/Emily because of something Amir said.. Oh and someone who was good turns evil, so people think it might be Rosie or something even though it's kind of been confirmed that Alastor is the big bad for the next season? So I thought it was kind of obvious it was him but whatever
>>155061632>I don’t think you disagree with meNta.Yes, we do disagree with you. You are genuinely stupid. Get well soon.
>>155061683Cute I guess? Probably taller. Not sure how different they would look from Adam's kids with Eve.
>>155061717I mean in show she's not that impressive. Eve might accidentally end up mogging her.
>>155061774Eve was made from Adam's bone. Assuming Viv isn't doing stupid shit. So there's valid argument in saying that she's not 100% human, or at least she's not the same kind of human Adam and Lilith are. Adam and Lilith, in turn, were made equal, made from dust.. I can't help but feel that their kids would be much taller and healthier
I find it interesting how Vox idolized Lilith in season 2 even though we don't know what their relationship is.
>>155061783I'm pretty sure she is? Talking in universe. Lute is Eve so she's the knockoff Lilith. A mini sickly Lilith. Other than that.... The prettiest individual would be Verosika or Stella I think.
>>155061728The reason I think it's the first option is because though that Erika interview was talked about, I didn't see many people pick up on or speculate on that aspect of it. Which surprised me at the time because it felt very revealing. So I can see it being a woah moment for someone listening to it closely for the first time instead of relying on someone's bullet points.
>>155061793Viv liked a post that said that shortly after box got humiliated from the rejection, he went to one of Lilith's concerts, and then got inspired. So it may be exactly that, just idolization. Took her ideas and ran with them
>>155061784Lilith is the otherworldly feminine that can't be controlled, Eve is the human feminine that men seek to dominate and own.
>>155061783Eve probably looks identical to her more or less.
>>155061784Not sure about healthier but depending on Eve's height I feel like the kids Adam would have with Lilith would be taller and possibly stronger.
>>155061697How would you feel if it was revealed Charlie was a rape baby?
>>155061820Huh?
>>155061809There's a couple of interviews I'm thinking about... Are you specifically talking about the one where she says, this might be a spoiler, and then proceeds to describe the fucking flower Charlie would be, and she says that the stem/bud is this dark red color? That's kind of another dead giveaway that she is in fact Evil/Roo's child.It can be any variation but... She is either literally the biological offspring of this deity/being, or, if they're following through with the original myth of Lilith not being able to bear children/still or, then her and Lucifer probably made a deal with Roo for Charlie to live, or so that they could have Charlie in the first place, so they're connected that way.
>>155061840Who's the one getting raped? That's really the important bit.
>>155061820I don't understand this logic. How can she be otherworldly when she was made literally the exact same way Adam is. That logic doesn't track. This is why I don't like the Lilith figure or people's takes on her like she's hot shit. She's literally human in the same exact way Adam is.
>>155061873Lilith became demonized after gaining her autonomy from Adam, Eve is still human for submitting to him.
>>155061833Taller, stronger, faster. Viltrumites, basically
>>155061699Who screams over Lillith and Charlie having the same nose? Only those that see and know the implications.
>>155061873Yeah. Viv should really add her enhancing herself with hell magic or something like that. Otherwise it really kinda moots the point of her and Adam being equal.
>>155061793>>155061816She’s mommy
>>155061885Still not really a big deal.
>>155061886Imagine putting Abel next to a GuitarQueen kid and he's getting mogged by a tall blonde Gigachad.
>>155061891Retards do. Like you!
>>155061862I was going to say that Lucifer raped Eve but I think it makes more sense that Lilith got raped by a sinner. I really like the Lu rapist theory because the fandom would have a meltdown over it and it would be hilarious.
>>155061895The source of magic has to be Roo
>>155061886No, viltrumites would quite easily dominate the afterlife in Hellaverse, especially when no one has been shown to be planet-tier
>>155061860Yes, that. She also said essentially the same thing in different words a little earlier if I recall. And it would explain why twodream said it could be a matter of misinterpretation but felt like a huge spoiler.
>>155061916Fucking exactly lol
>>155061919I casually talked about them having the same nose. The lute eve base screams wildly about it.
>>155061922Bold to assume Lucifer wasn't the one raped with Charlie.
>>155061922Lucifer being the rapist ain't never happening because Viv ain't gonna do that to her favourite glorbo. I'm more expecting either him or Lilith being the raped if she goes for that.
>>155061936Then this tracks with that former employee who worked on the pilot. I've shared the screenshots here before. But yeah, apparently the idea in the pilot was that Charlie was not supposed to exist. And that it was supposed to be ironic that she wants to redeem and do good while being the offspring/connected to the embodiment of evil itself. I'm telling you. She's Roo's kid. And I think there is a switch, or at least a mistake and identity, but people are too attached to Eve and Lilith. I think the doppelganger is Roo and Lilith. Eve is doing her own shit.
>>155061945No dude. You don't do anything casual. Did people say or not say to get your fuck ass takes out of here. They have no basis. We've been through the song and dance before. Nobody likes you. Go away. You have a really bad eye and you lack media literacy. You most likely can't even tie your own shoes.
>>155061940Too bad there's not a lot of GuitarQueen OC kids art. I mostly see GuitarSpear (mostly babies) or some Seth or Cain stuff
>>155061965It also tracks with the reveal of her massive demon arm in the season 1 finale. Charlie struggling with identity crisis and having something darker beyond what she understands inside her seems likely. She'll probably also struggle to apply to herself the inherent goodness deep down she insists other demons have once she finds out.
>>155062014The other clue is Lute calling her an abomination, and treating her that way since the first episode. As someone who bit the apple, she knows what's up.
>>155061965>>155062014I look at Charlie’s situation as her being the anti-Christ and Eve/Lillith being the Mary Roo chosen.Like a corrupt version of Jesus Christ’s birth.
>>155062040Also if she initially went to Hell she might have been collecting information while down there. She probably found out the origins of the Ls mysterious kid.
>>155062062Nope. Lute is Eve.You were told to leave.
>>155062040Lute references the flood and never anything about Eden. She calls Charlie an abomination for being a nephilim.
>>155062062No Bugcuck.
>>155062064I don't think Eve initially went to hell
>>155062076Are you retarded? We literally explained Charlie might not be a nephilim.
>>155062076Okay. She's Eve.
>>155062108She’s not OG!Eve
>>155062118Correct. She is in fact the original Eve. Abel came out of her vagina. You're welcome!
>>155061860I think Lilith made the deal with Eve, who likely also has direct Roo connection because of the apple, to make Charlie possible. And that this was the deal Eve later leveraged against Lilith to separate her from her family and assume her identity. I wouldn't be surprised if Lucifer didn't know about the original deal at all.
>>155062145This works but not with Lute Eve.
>>155062086Idk. I don't think she was a permanent resident of Heaven till more recently. Plus her being down in Hell for a while probably would have encouraged her "kill all sinners" mentality. Having front row seats to the degenerates that are descended from her would definitely make her wanting to kill them more understandable.
>>155062145You gotta be right.
>>155062163Because Lute Eve ain't real. We've seen Lute and Eve in the same scene already.
>>155062179> I don't think she was a permanent resident of Heaven till more recently.That makes Eve becoming Lute impossible.
>>155062190Bruh you are coping so hard.
>>155062190What do you think of Michael Lute?
>>155062179That's been debunked since the first episode? Heaven fought evil long before they made Adam and Lilith. Go ahead and rewatch the scene where Charlie is telling the story People's mistake is assuming that Roo is Eve or a corrupted version of Eve, or something that came after the fruit. She's Evil. They've already confirmed these two as characters: Good and Evil. They are essentially deities, they are the embodiments of Good and Evil respectively. Evil/Roo existed long before Humanity and creation as a whole. " They worshiped Good and protected all from Evil,"
>>155062215Lute Eve supporters are the queens of coping. Nearly everything actually Eve-related in the actual show makes them rage cope.
>>155062145Also, this is the plot that got Hazbin greenlit that Viv has referred to as being in season 3.
>>155062202They are talking about Roo/Evil. Not Eve.
>>155062202Not really. She might have popped into Heaven at a later point but still early enough to encourage and influence exterminations. The info she gathered in Hell could have been what really convinced Sera to do and accept exterminations as a solution.
>>155062232Eve is Eddie Brock. Roo is Venom.
>>155062238Copes by projecting twice as much because his own theories have zero evidence. Can't wait to see you blow up when season 3 comes out. Eve being Lute has already been spoiled.
>>155062252Lute is far too experienced and militaristic for that.
>>155062258Nope. That's what people want to believe. There is zero evidence of this. In fact, even going by the old lakes that circulated, you know the ones that retards like bug love to harp on about, even those differentiate Eve and Roo.A former employee who left in 2021 also confirmed that they are separate characters. Roo Is revealed after Eve does her thing. They've never been the same character. They've never even been connected. The whole corrupted take was something the fandom came up with as a result of the leaks that came out in 2023.
>>155062247Nope. I'm talking about Lute/Eve.
>>155062269Right, Eve is militaristic. And also correct, Eve is as old as Adam. So of course she would be experienced.
>>155062262I have such little evidence, I could find it on trading cards.
>>155062269She doesn't need that many years to develop that. Military training doesn't require centuries.
>>155062277Then you are purposefully misunderstanding. Roo and Eve are not the same character.Most likely in fact, Roo is the one behind Eve's hallucination of Adam
>>155062296Then who trained her? Adam wouldn’t
>>155062291Oh there he goes again with the trading cards You have been debunked so many times specifically with the card, and each time you throw a tantrum, and then you pretend to say that nobody has debunked you. Dance monkey dance
>>155062322>We’ve debunked you.With what?You have used zero content from the show at all.
>>155062304I'm literally saying they're different characters. Roo is her own thing. I'm just saying Lute/Eve initially went to Hell and later bought her way in after selling them info and probably encouraging fear mongering towards Hell.
>>155062335There you go, saying it all over again! Love to see it.
>>155062306Some random elder angel or a more militaristic one? She might have always been a Amazonian murder woman so honing her already toned murder skills into something more refined wouldn't be that hard.
>>155062350Yeah I don't think she initially went to hell. I don't know why people say that. It's on par with the people who think that in order for her to be Eve, she must be amnesiac.
>>155062372That's the point. That's what they're asking though. Let's pretend she actually was this "Amazonian woman" (I doubt it. But okay), then who gave her the proper military training?
>>155062369It’s objectively true. You have seen me go all about character dialogues that establishes the status of Adam being the first human soul in heaven. Meaning Abel didn’t qualify for it and you hate what the reason for it is. Lucifer admitting he performed adultery with Eve.And so Lute’s reactions to Abel and the first human soul in heaven status Adam has disqualify her from being the Eve that birthed Abel. She has no idea he is a nephilim and his initial issues of not being Adam’s genetic son. She thinks on the logic of exorcists and strong soldiers.
>>155062381It's a possible explanation for her knowing sensitive Hell related info and being familiar with the kinda of shittery sinners are up to. Really depends if S3 brings up the idea that Lute just mysteriously showed up one day and that Sera seemed weirdly interested in whatever she was saying.
>>155062390Honestly. This makes Michael Lute a lot better lore-wise because she was designed for that role from the start.
>>155062420Right, so anyway! Jessica Vosk already gave it away. Lute is Eve. You're welcome!
>>155062390Some random Angel OC Viv comes up with. It's not that hard of a concept to grasp.
>>155062431There you go taking Looty's idea again. Can you make anything original?
>>155062437The Vosk tweet is about Lute being Eve and definitely not being Eve. Spoiling Lillith and Lute’s future name.
>>155062454Bugcuck you are retarded.
>>155062446That was the initial question dude. That's what we want an answer for. Then you went and answered something else
>>155062451If other fans saw this deranged activity, they would laugh at you.
>>155062431So you want Michael to be Lute levels of incompetent? Very blasphemous Bugcuck. You are very gay ( you want Lute to be a man).
>>155062427Not really, that's just making it messy for zero reason. She directly consumed Roo's essence, or however you want to phrase that. She's of course going to know what that looks like, what that smells like. Why you think she has such a hate boner for Charlie? Because she fucking knows what she is.
>>155062463Yeah he is>>155062472Pot calling kettle black. I shouldn't be surprised though. Zestial is Cain. Or whatever you go on about.
>>155062466The power of Lute Eve. Endlessly creating piles of plot holes and far out takes they cannot answer.The reason why they didn’t make a direct answer is because the one who would train Eve would’ve been someone that should be the head exorcist.
>>155062466Dude I didn't break into spindlehorse studio and stole their knowledge. I'm just speculating here.
>>155062505I like how you claim that other people are obsessed with you, but then you keep inserting yourself into conversations that have nothing to do with your shit theories We are not debating if she's Eve or not. She is. This specific thread was about who trained her specifically. Get your spoon out of the fucking pot. At the very least, answer your other threads. This one literally has nothing to do with you. I remember once upon a time you kept accusing others of bringing this theory up. Now you're the one who's doing it. You are obsessed with Lute being Eve. Don't worry. We're going to get it in season 3.
>>155062514Bro I didn't say you did? I'm just saying it's not really good speculation.
>>155062504No one in the Hazbin Hotel fanbase claiming ownership of ideas. Especially when the one who stated her idea never ever tried to stand up for it, in favor of pointless lute Eve discussions that heavily back talking huh griups of theorists that are actually watching the show.
>>155062541>I’m not obsessed with you. I remember-The main talk was about who trained Eve in Lute Eve reality to be an actual military leader. And as it turns out, no one has a good answer for it at all.
>>155062578While I would love to break into Spindlehorse studio and steal sensitive info I don't live in America and even if I did I'm pretty sure Viv would capture me and send me to her rape dungeon.
>>155062647We have speculation. Stop inserting yourself in conversations that already believe in Lute being Eve just because you're pissy it's true. If you didn't give a fuck, you wouldn't bother. Go away now
>>155062652.... That sounds like a very intricate fantasy of yours. I'm assuming you put some thought into it? Come on, even you can do better than Viv.
>>155062793Lute Eve will always be bad fanfiction that never had any logical fanon lore.
>>155062390I mean… imagine giving and having to raise the first generation of children on primordial earth. Full of dangerous environments and predators.What kind of matriarch do you think that would forge? Realistically?
>>155062806I'm pretty sure she's just gonna have me be with another dude in said rape dungeon. I think she just likes watching men go at it.
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>>155063012Well if you ask Bugcuck apparently a manipulative woman that's unable to face even the slightest physical obstacle and needs big strong men to do all the work. NGL kinda stupid but I expect that from Bugcuck.
