What would their kids be like?
Would this even be that popular if they hadn't cast a flat faced brillo pad as MJ?
>>155132799Probably lmaoActually, maybe not since this MJ has literally nothing remotely recognizable in any MJ. Period.
Jean was channeling Raimi's green goblin the whole movie>laughs maniacally when peter hits her>disguises them as innocent civilians in order to scare Peter like gobby did in that building on fire in the first movie>THE HEART OSBORNE, FIRST, WE ATTACK HIS HEART>jean emotionally tortures him as MJ>IN SPITE OF EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE FOR YOU, EVENTUALLY THEY WILL HATE YOU>isn't it funny, that your new friends at damage control developed a special weapon, just for you?>YOU AND I ARE NOT SO DIFFERENT' SPIDER-MAN>people like us don't get to live a normal lifeshe is already the goblin queen
>>155132775A bunch of filthy muties, that’s what!!
>>155132832But what if they also inherit Peter’s spider powers too?
MNNNHHH *lick* *SMOOCH* *Kiss*
predict their interactions in secret wars
I love it when this girl is a savage hobbo like you got no idea.What would she be like as a girlfriend? Give me cute and wholesome Jean as a gf pasta!
>>155132853>But what if they also inherit Peter’s spider powers too?
>>155132872There won't be any, Marvel will go full retard and pair Hollandman with a live action Miles Morales and SadieJean with the old ass Fox X-Men.
reminder that jean gives the game away in the swinging scene. she is not afraid of swinging while MJ clearly is
>>155132775Oye yo no entiendo, está en tailandés.
>Jean going back to Peter's house seeing all the Pizza boxes and ramen>Jean: Damn, bitch, you live like this?
>>155133136>haha you're such a lonely incel who lives like a homeless person! must suck having no friends!jean's real power is projection
Jean mind melding in 15 year old Peter's bedroom is kind of funny because she's in a way the earliest girl to ever be in his room and the last
>>155133182>Jean: You're gay, Victor.
>>155133161how would 15 year old peter and jean meeting go?
>>155133195Probably tell Peter that Tony bringing him to the Airport battle is/was a terrible idea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E9DxRlkZIkPeople are starting to call Peter out on his shit He isn't much better than Jean with his constant siding with the government and then learning his mistake
【【虫琴日常EP1】满足你对虫琴CP的期待-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/8LgDbGjThe Chinese are not playing about spiderjean
whats really funny is no way home did not release in china due to the statue of liberty appearing onscreen so nobody there gives a fuck about peter and mj's breakup
>>155133268lol
>>155133247>He isn't much better than Jean with his constant siding with the government and then learning his mistakewhat does that have to do with being sexist?
>>155133320Clickbaity title but he does make a good point about the fact that MCU Peter is practically a government stooge
>>155133268>I live in a world where Disney will be selling "Spider-man's Amazing Friend Jean Grey" merch in Shangai DisneylandI don't know how I ended up I this timeline but it's hilarious
>>155133268>Tall and buff Tom HollandHuh?
>>155133365kind of hard to pin BnD on that, when that problem started way before that film
>>155133195Idk about the meeting, but I know the ending
>>155133268https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1BY8T6ZEwV/We already got AI Slip videos!
>>155133247Woke whiny video but he is correct that MCU MJ's characterization should make her incompatible with Peter. That is just absolutely true. MCU MJ is a political activist who hates authoritarianism and she would probably be disgusted by the concept of a mutant power inhibitor and yet she's just kind of chill about it. She's the kind of person who should hate Stark with all her might but she has no opinion on him in these movies. Isn't that weird? Two of the most important people in this Peter's life are irrelevant to each other. That is genuinely just a good point, the only reason MJ likes Peter is because she's the designated girlfriend, her actual characterization comes second. This does not function.
>>155133386idk I think Jean would think 15 year old peter is annoying, too immature for her
>>155133268>Disney/Sony is afraid of the backlash from China or losing potential profits so they give in and make Peter x Jean canonWe're fucking winning holy shit.
>>155133411The thing I don't like about the MCU Spider-man side characters is that their personalities are almost all just gags. You had the african quipster kid. Better Brant is barely even a character. You had Flash who just repeats the same two jokes forever. MJ is "Woke stereotype teenager" but she just doesn't have a reaction to Peter's constant teamups with police and voernment agencies. Ned is JUST A SILLIER VERSION OF GANKE. Peter's teachers are both jokes. His gym teacher hating him is treated as some kind of gag in univierse when you could have done something interesting
>>155133386Fixed up better >>155133418Sadie would be 11 playing a 14-5 year old.
Here is your reminder that before the kissing scene Jean didn't get to see Peter's truly vulnerable side. He did a great job of keeping that hidden and she forced it out of him and cackled
>>155133411>>155133485BnD just has the unfortunate luck of being attached to a shit version of Spider-Man. It honestly did the best it could with the hand it got dealt, and the fact that it came out as good as it did says something. This is the first time I liked Hollandman since Civil War
>people hating on this ship talking about comic accuracy when they been watching MCU movies since Iron Man 1Lmao.
>>155133182Aren't movies like doomsday and secret wars usually filmed back to back to save money? Weird that they only started filming secret wars a little over a year before its release.
>>155133467Disney doesn’t care much about China anymore, at least as much as they used to. The fact they’re actually doing Ghost Rider now is proof.
>>155133560>comic accuracyINHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALES>Spider-man's male father figure is Iron Man>Spider-man's best friend is an obese asian named Ned Leeds >Asgard isn't a realm, it's a meteorite in outer space and asgardians are just a kind of alien >Black Widow and the Hulk dated >Iron Man and Captain America were best friends >Jessica Jones is at least 20 years older than Spider-man>Spider -man did not learn to side with cap during the civil war >Spider-man abides by the Sokovia accords for his entire fucking life apparently>mutants basically irrelevant for actual decades of screentime >AUNT MAY DIES
>>155133538I like to think that BND kind of fixes most of thsia mutant "villain" like Jean puts all of Peter's government stuff into a bad light automatically. Now he is part of the suffering of mutants and Jean directly challenges him on that multiple times.
>>155133560>>155133636I wonder who’s behind the comic accuracy crowd. CYKE
>>155133268>bilibili release a global version of Android app>at the same time PeterxJean is booming in ChinaIt writes itself. Tiktok? Youtube? No, we can only rely on the Chinese
>>155133655its intentional. large portions of BND were made as a response to the criticisms of MCU peterWhich is why I dont think its fair to pin the blame of MJ not being a real character or Hollandman being pro-govt on it when that has been a problem for ages. Almost like these people just want to hate on the new thing, because I didn't see anyone complaining about this a few years ago.
>>155133636I'm honestly curious what the non Yelena thunderbolts think of Spidey. Bucky, Congressman Barnes, at minimum has to have some opinion.
>>155133711>We all love Spider-man and in no small terms greatly condemn the department of damage control. At the next joint chiefs of staff meeting I will be personally pushing that that the DODC is rolled into the CIA with the new Avengers
if mj was a character she would have dumped him over the mr stark bullshit unironically because that is what people who talk like MJ would realistically feel
>>155133617They already did dr.strange at the height of mcu popularity in china
mcu tony is literally friends with elon musk in-universe can you fucking imagine a girl like MJ being cool with Peter talking about him all the fucking time
>>155133755Fukken based, I love Elai- I mean de Valentina.
>>155133268Why cant ai get tom holland's face right
What kind of development do you want Jean to have?Tsundere? Femme fetale? She felt kind of fem fettale in this movie. Maybe she stays edgy? Maybe she softens? MAybe she softens specifically for Peter?
>>155133784Sure. True to what little character zendaya has, she has no principles.
>>155133784>Tony went to the Island but Elon didn't
>>155133784Tony died a martyr which gives him a pass for all the bullshit problems he and his company caused, like Ultron, arming the 10 rings and Killian.
>>155133835BND actually turned her into a schizo who believes in conspiracy theories about the french so this actually makes sense
>>155133755>Peter convinces Jean to she can use her powers for good, it'd be like a new avengers or something. Good guys, like US agent and Yelena! >She's reluctant but has grown to feel genuine remorse for her actions even if the world doesn't know what she did in order to find her sister >Walk into the Langley briefing room >Glow in the dark damagecontrol nigga.jpg >Hello team
>>155133831Confident, bratty, and clingy when alone with Peter in private. Sometimes she gets horny from her extensive library of people's minds and propositions Peter with a wicked sense of humor. In public she makes it obvious they're together to ward off other women, totally unaware that makes Peter appear even more attractive to those curious women.
>>155133831i imagine she'll be like fassbender's magneto, constantly flipping between good and evil. although, that kinda got old after the 3rd time. I'd like to see her retain her bravado and confidence but not be a total psyche that tortures her villains like she does in this movie. she only reserves that for people who hurt peter
If she treated Spidey, you know, literally the nicest guy in the MCU, that bad in the movie, could you imagine how she'll treat an actually morally evil person? Good god
>>155133784Maybe this elon got killed in one of the many alien attacks and never had a chance to chud out
>>155133880I think Jean would be anti-government through and through. She would join up with the X Institute, not do the whole Xmen thing and just mooch off Xavier while Peter takes her on vigilante vacations with him every couple weeks.
>Meet a Girl>We have a good time>We have sex>It turns out to be Jean and she laughs at me>This has been continuing for months now
Need someone to draw this visual gag but with Peter and Jean.
>>155133868Has a bunch of memories erased leaving large gaps in her highschool memories including if her and Peter hooked up of screen, maybe forgetting how she lost her virginity. Ned Makes a Charlie Kelly conspiracies board just cuz he thinks he knows Spider-man or wants to thank him for saving him twice. MJ get into conspiracies theories about mind control. It makes a kind of of fuck up sense the the 2 people closest to Peter would get messed up the most by having him get erased.
>>155133971MCU peter doesnt strike me as the guy to have casual sex
>>155132872>predict their interactionsI will do this as I don't care for secret wars.>Jean decides she wants to feel like Peter does when she was in his mind and be a superhero>"Should be easy enough with my telepathy!" she thinks to herself>Turns out knowing is not the same as proving and gets a headache from her lack of law knowledge>Attempt to possess Matt Murdock has daredevil chasing her ass at night>She tries to use her telekinesis in combat>Ends up pushing the bad guy down the stairs and severely fracturing another>The Daily Bugle calls her a menace on par with Spiderman>After the 3rd catatonic criminal Jean wonders how Peter manages to quip while in combat>Jean gains a new appreciation for Peter who makes superheroics look easy
>>155134027No, I don't think so either. Rather Peter ends up telling Jean about it, passing her shit test to her exasperation and secretly making her want to have his babies.
>>155133942Jean Grey would probably turn actual bad guys into gay strippers
>>155133560As someone who has seen multiple retarded shipping takes, the moment they bring up things like that, theyare just looking a excuse to dislike it, because for example people were saying that Jean was a minor until Feige said she was an adult.>>155133677You joke, but i have seen Cyclopsfags wanting Scott and Emma/Rogue than Jean and Wolverinefags wanting anybody but Jean, outside from here.
>>155133538MCU has just given Spider-Man terrible movies to this point that BND was the needed reset.In many ways this was the polar opposite of the comics, just interesting in how the adaptations at the mirrored universe of the source material.
>>155133831>Non Peter character like professor X tries to talk to her about forgiveness and believing in the innate good of others so she stops taking people over and manually not breathing >Softzoom to Jean, breakthrough framing Naw imma do my own thing. Fuckin pussy lol >Peter webchecks her mid fight and squares up to save villain he's suplexing >Makes fun of him listens I could see her faking being the classic "nice" Jean on first impression to a team/the school but the mask slipping to reveal, like pantomiming MJ, she's spent years navigating the world by consciousness jacking inner thoughts/memories to get what she wants as easily as possible. Then the realization of the violation and her instant cold demeanor shift make everyone afraid of her, furthering her isolation and distrust of others. Emma might make her better but actually worse by doing the same thing to people but never breaking character. The dark reflection of what she could be in Emma (evil manipulator seductress) putting her back on a path for professor X and Rogue, Kitty, Jubilee, insert fren Xman here to have her try 2 human. Arc moment; Peter getting to see her have friends (melancholy smile loaded with fact he himself has Frank, maybe newNed added on Xboxlive, but is still only living as Spiderman). Then Jean pulls him over to show off spiderman to the fellow Xmen adult teenagers and ruthlessly embarrasses him. Which works, because he goes from stiff and in his thoughts to riffing back and meshing with the group dynamic.
>>155133151She looks so sweaty here, I love her>>155133136>Jean trying to make a homecooked meal for Peter.>Ends up burning the water and almost the whole apartment>She ends up embarrassed and with her face as red as her hair>Peter simply embraces her and they both cuddle as they order takeout.
>>155134209Peter ordered little Caesar's pizza again, didn't he?
>>155134229Is their diet composed of pizza and chinese? Jean's gonna get fat!What would Jean be like if she moved in to Peter's apartment while the glowies are still looking for her? Would she still want to go out or be a cute trad wife?
>>155133161That's so hot!>>155133151What does a sweaty Jean smell like?
>>155134248>Is their diet composed of pizza and chinese? Probably >Jean's gonna get fat!Peter would probably bring home a treadmill after dumpster driving. Also superheroing burns a lot of calories.>What would Jean be like if she moved in to Peter's apartment while the glowies are still looking for her? IDK. Film really didn't really go into what Jean was like in a casual setting.>Would she still want to go out or be a cute trad wife?Definitely not a trad wife. Probably still want to go out and do stuff. Can see her dragging Peter to a break room.
>>155133636>Iron Man and Captain America were best friendsSteve and Tony were better friends in the comics than they ever were in the MCU
>>155132775I couldn't understand this. Why does the text read like ancient alien language?
>>155133182Is this chronologically supposed to be before the X-men movie?
Peter and Jean are now a profitable pairing
>>155134588I think so, we get the normal xmen then the new ones afterwards.
>>155133268>https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1BY8T6ZEwV/Adorable. Also, damn, seven minutes. That's like a third of a regular tv show episode.
>>155134526>peter passive aggressively calling Jean his sister hoping to place some familial distance between them while keeping her close>Jean getting increasingly offended and annoyed by this and trying to get him to stop
Honestly just realized this Peter and Jean dynamic reminds me of Denji and Reze a bit.
>>155134791I saw it like ain inverse Yuu and Nao from Charlotte
>>155133268Okay that was hilarious, that's totally how I imagine it would go. China, you're my only hope now. Give us SpiderJean!
>>155133268It's kind of unnerving that a chinese fanfiction manages to be somewhat in-character
>Jean you just broke those people up for no reason>wait you were controlling that guy too weren't you...
>>155134791Maybe
A.I is getting too scary man.
>>155133151to be fair she was on the run while trying to get revenge for her sister whole peter is literally on normal life modeonce jean gets off her sad bullshit and puts on her super suit she'll be a lot more social than peter washe didn't even seem to have work friends let alone work did he just have a trust fund from Tony?
>>155134884That one was great, and so funny. Reminded me a little of picrel
>>155133786>>155133755Do you think spidey would be spongeworthy?
>>155134642Ready to buy my Hot Toys Spider-Man and Jean Grey..... but only if they make SpiderPhoenix canon.
>>155134912Peter was not in normal life mode, he was in depression work mode for 5 years. He is also able to quickly make friends again after snapping out of it. Jean and him are two sides of the samr coin
>>155134781>"I'm stuck stepbro~" >"Jean I'm going to fucking spank you">Everyone visibly cringes, will these two PLEASE pretend they're normal in the bedroom
>>155134939And Jean is going to have a much tougher time making friends. Peter is polite, respectful, and funny. Jean will have to shake off being an psychopathic terrorist in her next few appearances.
Can we give credit to Jean for giving some of the best villain speeches since the Raimi era? Her dialogue was fucking perfect. >She died because she was special, just like you. Just like me. She sounds so fucking cool
I am pretty sure Jean was controlling that angry gangster to make Peter react
>>155134781>you're like a sister to me Jean>okay...a sister you would be willing to sleep with or...?>Jean you can't say things like that>or like a bratty sister you wanna discipline?>Jean stop!>come on, Peter, show your sister some lovin>don't tempt me>you dirty boy, tempted by your sister>you're not my sister>glad we can agree
>>155134981>people like us dont get to live a normal life. We dont get to have friends, or a family. So why dont you just be honest with yourself: are you peter parker... or are you spider-man?She was such a good villain
If the rest of the x-men are as well written as jean i might actually be interested in their movie
>>155135022>I am SUPAIDA-MAN!>He summons his giant mech, shooting web at Jean to drag her inside as it starts to step on the DODC building>Inside the SUPAIDA-MECH is a karaoke room where he sings to her very badly about love and whatever>Frank watching from outside just cannot handle it and gives up to go home>By the time they leave the mech theyre married
>>155133268>the montage at the end showing everyone, including the rude black stereotype guy, living happy lives and doing slice of life stuffasians have very interesting habits
I finished another drawing, I'll make more SpiderPhoenix soon.
>>155133592Doomsday and Secret Wars was explicitly not filmed back to back and instead had a big break in between because Endgame and Infinity War sucked big time for cast and crew
>>155135248cute
>steals MJ's entire flow
They're saying it's the greatest ship ever conceived
https://www.reddit.com/r/PhoenixForce/I discovered this image on the Jean Grey subreddit.
How I feel about Miles Morales>>155131494
>>155135917I like hobie though
>>155132775Crackship
>>155132872Kevin, mister feige, I'm not asking for muchALL I WANT is one scene of jean saving peter from getting hit by dooms attack or whatever and telling him "you have me too" please that's literally all I want Or Peter saving jean again "I got you remember" Come on feige just let this happen!
>>155136128In 616 they kiss twiceIn 1610 he fantasizes about fucking herin the MCU she tricks him into kissing her
the logic of peter's powers implies that tobeyman unlocked and mastered arachnidmode puberty boost immediately while tom is a late bloomer and andrew garfield just never obtained it despite being a ragemonster
>>155136154
>people still saying isn't jean like 16 despite kevin feige statementlmao zendayafags are so fucking salty
>>155136285>Gains the ability to get into Peter's brain by force>Uses it purely to make him happy
>>155136160so they barely interact
>>155136308She was featured twice, cameo once, and a blockbuster co-star in the latest.
>>155136296That's because if Jean is an adult the only thing stopping her from fucking Peter is if she sees him as a sibling
>>155136317your trannyship will never be real
>>155136328It’s not R rated
>>155136128>>155136308>>155136330Are you done?
>>155136328Exactly I saw some clearly ship art and the first comment was "he's like an older brother <3" lmao come on now
Let's say they pivot and make Jean and Peter an item.What would their movies even be about? Romcoms but the comedy is just slapstick fights against criminals? With how powerful Jean is, there isn't really much room for them to do super power fights against the usual Spider-Man rogue's gallery. Hell, I don't see how X-Men villains would be a problem for MCU Jean.
So why is this a big thing with people again? Is it just the aesthetic of Peter being with a redhead in the absence of the real MJ? I saw it today and from all this internet stuff, was expecting it to be a case where they have a some playful flirty banter through the movie or something that people really zoned in on but there's nothing like that in there. Peter basically just offers Jean a sympathetic ear and is halfway nice to her at the very end of the movie and that's it.
>>155136340You should add Petra Parker to this image. That trend is clearly a psyop meant to bury all the SpiderPhoenix art.
>>155132775>>155132829VILLIANESS ~ grrrrrrrrrrr
>>155136296>No fic of a teen Jean desperately craving Spidercock but Peter making her wait because he's pure like that
This movie and ship actually giving me lots of hope for the future in general. Mr. Feige please don't take this happiness away from me....
>>155136340>if you don't like my spam you are a paulfaglmao dilate
>>155136343Then you checked their bio and they are a trans mtf turbo reject
>>155136351No, it’s gay. Nice try though, I almost acknowledge your attention attempt
>>155133268The part where they fall off the beam and into the Web is fucking kino jesus I need this to be real so bad.
>>155136368KEK These people man, Anything but a straight pairing, Let alone a white pairing at thatToo bad for them, the japs and huehues love this ship
>>155136364Isn’t it sad that you wait for everyone to fall asleep just to disrupt the thread. You’re truly a pathetic pest. See you tomorrow night rat
>>155136383Are you retarded? It's not being added for attention, it's added because it's a spammed, forced anti-Peter meme like Paul and Miles.
>>155133538>This is the first time I liked Hollandman since Civil WarHoly shit this. Holland man is just Mr Star Mr Stark Mr Strange Mr Peter 2 Peter 3 but he's extremely likeable here.
>>155136398figures that americans like this shit
>>155136400>PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE MY SAMEFAG GHOST BUMPING PSYOP BY INCLUDING ITno
>>155136411Yeah you are retarded.
>>155133182>Vision>Black Pantherdidn't they died?
>>155136406I know you’re Indian
>>155136420Vision is getting a whole show to resurrect him after Wandavision laid the foundationBlack Panther is a legacy title, it will be another actor
>>155136350>Peter basically just offers Jean a sympathetic ear and is halfway nice to her at the very end of the movie and that's it.Ships have been born out of less.Jean being a redhead helps, I suppose, but I'm pretty sure that the "sympathetic ear and is halfway nice to her at the very end" comes at the climax of a very emotionally charged scene and as a result he saves her from sinking deeper into her inner darkness by offering her companionship and then saves her live by directly taking a bullet for her.The main aspect of the ship, building off of that, is not a relationship of mutual love, it's Jean developing a crush on him that would, hopefully, eventually become mutual.
>>155136349>Jean's psychic abilities is what tamed symbiote in Secret Wars so in Spider-Man 5 Jean is at Xavier's and the symbiote corrupts Peter until Jean arrives to save him.>Peter is the reason Jean believes in Xavier's dream for humanity and mutants to coexist together and why the X-Men would protect humanity. Bonus points Xavier encourages their relationship because of said dream>the whole Ben Reilly and Madelyne Pryor would bring Jean and Peter together
SpiderJean doesn't pay the RENT
>>155136350Mcu mj is boring, thats it. Any girl therefore is an upgrade for peter
>>155136350>>155136549I don't think its just the redhead thing because there have still been times where MJ is a redhead and she was the worst possible love interest
>>155136584MJ never got a good live action portrayal. Raimi MJ badly warped the perception of her character among non-comic readers and MCU MJ is MJ in name only
>>155136618insomniac did just as much damage
>>155136654I thought SM1 MJ was okay although it was weird they made her a knock off Lois Lane. SM2 MJ on the other hand was atrocious
>>155136676SM2 MJ was them attempting to make her cooler to appeal to people who hated her in SM1. You should NEVER do this
>>155133268What the hell I love AI now.
>>155136350>On screen crumb of how actual real person relationships foment for first time ever in a marvel product >I just don't see it guys, I mean Zendaya's character and Peter had... uh...
ships where two broken people find and help each other are great
>the year is 2023>a new spider-man movie releases >people (including on /co/) support a cute ship with the main character that will never be canon>overshadowed online by a troon-related trend and fanart of it >the year is 2026
>>155136902KEK
>>155136948
>>155136902Johnny chasing Petra is W goons tho
