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You know, I'm kind of surprised how long this ship has lasted so far
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>>155445550
It appeals to the everyman, anon. That's why.
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>>155445550
Man I really love this stupid ship
>First for Peter was Jean's first kiss
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Id you want an anime with a similar vibe, Charlotte
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>>155445550
what happened to the previous thread
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I love that Sadie looks 12 but still legal so can't be accused of anything
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>>155445641
>what happened to the previous thread
The same thing that happens to every spiderphoenix thread, anon.

It hit the bump limit. Again.
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>>155445677
Yeah, I stayed up all night until 8 AM just so I can make sure thespiderphoenix general was continued so Im turning in now lol
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I demand more Peter and Jean sexo moments
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>Omigosh Peter? Hiii!!!!!!!!!!
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>only 300 fanfics on ao3
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>>155445550
Huh, I just noticed, does Jean really have green eyes?
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>SpiderPhoenix cosplays happening already
>Plenty of couples planning on dressing up as them for Halloween

What more do we need for Feige to get message?
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>>155445808
>What more do we need for Feige to get message?
If he ever attends a convention, ask for a picture with him and do it with you and your partner's cosplaying as them
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>>155445831
>And your partner
Kek
What partner?
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>>155445791
In most comics/animated iteration, yes but sometimes they're not (X-men 92/97) and live action is whatever the actress has obviously.
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>>155445865
Ah, I see.
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>>155445808
Isn't NYCC soon with an exclusive Spider-Man panel there? Maybe some people can pull up and spread the message.
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>>155445923
Oh that's right. It'd help to spread the message for sure.
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>>155445907
Whats with the lack consistency?
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>>155445923
If you want to get escorted out, then sure
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>>155446403
Funny to see you post this again, lmao.
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Fuck please, I want Jean Grey to bite my dick off!
>>155446403
I love your logos, amazing stuff
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>>155445612
It'd be hilarious if this is what we got
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>I THOUGHT YOU SAID I HAVE YOU
>JEAN THAT ISN'T WHAT I MEANT
>TAKE OFF YOUR CLOTHES SO I CAN HAVE YOU
>JEAN THAT'S CALLED RAPE
>YOU CONSENTED WHEN YOU SAID I HAVE YOU
>JEAN NOOOOOOO
>SCHLORP SCHLORP SCHLORP SCHLORP
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>>155446126
It's just the medium of Comics. it not uncommon, Stan Lee early on accidentally wrote Peter Parker as Peter Palmer. Sometimes its stylistic choice like if you told me Peter had blue eyes more frequently when Toby was playing him for synergy I'd believe it. Also Peter's clone Ben is often depicted with blue eyes despite being a perfect clone of Peter and Peter have brown eyes just to help the reader distinguish them.
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>>155446605
She probably ends up a quivering wreck cumming all over. Jean didn't account for the spider hormones and super stamina
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>>155446905
You could argue that Peter is less sensitive to stimulation than Jean due to his durability
Jean is also really weak physically. She couldn't pull off a tiny spider web while Frank could yank a huge chunk of it
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>>155446965
Exactly how I see it going. As stated by other anon, she probably tries to tease Peter by stating she's gonna "rock his world" due to all the minds she has been in and all the sexual tricks she's gathered only to be surprised by how overly sensitive her body feels when touched and end up cumming her brains out by Peter.
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>>155447065
The thing about sex is your nervous system still has to get used to it.
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>>155446568
Do you think Jean could trigger Peter's erogenous zones using her telepathy? That's the only way I could see her getting the upper hand
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>>155447262
She has telekinesis too but Blackcat has said Peter the best she's ever had. At this point I honestly think Peter has pheromone powers that he doesn't know about. It's the easiest way to explain bitches love Spider-man.
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>>155447395
Could make sense, spiders be like that. Still surprised he doesn't try to instinctively bind them and feed them flies during sex though.
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I genuinely hope we never see Silk. Literal hentai fetish character
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I.feelblikrnthr movie didn't do a great job tackling the spider hormones thing. It kept treating it like a counter evolution to Jean's powers. But Jean was born with them. She is a mutant. That is her species. Peter has powers copied from s different species by accident and his body isn't designed for it. He is going through a SECOND puberty because his spider half is becoming an adult. Thst implies that this isn't natural at all. His body is basically deformed. His genes think he's a literal giant spider and are trying to compete the development process of a spider

Jean got her powers AT puberty because mutants are just the evolutionary next level for humans. It isn't like what Peter is going through.
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>>155447537
*I feel like
Sorry I guess I had a stroke while typing and didn't check before pressing. Damn it Jean!
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>>155447537
Isn't that the same? Even if it was artificially created, something caused their genes to change and Peter managed to find a way to shut down specific genes using energy.
I would say its weirder that he used Banner as basis since his manifestation seems more gamma energy caused than the mutants and genetics.
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>>155447262
Probably could use telekinesis to push the butt-plug in deeper at least.
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>>155447654
>>155447395
Imagine getting a prostate massage from Jean's telekinesis
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>>155447537
That a pretty simplified version of evolution. Then why are there mutants born with powers that objectively suck or they can't control? Evolution can get it wrong without darwinism bad evolutionary traits can flourish.

Jeans powers also evolved while hooked up to the torture chair. Nothing about that machine seemed natural.
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Man what if Jean's sister didn't die and actually got in contact with the phoenix before disappearing?
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>>155447820
I don't think Metsker ever said she was dead. He just talked about Sara's sacrific and legacy. Maybe she's in a catatonic coma or something and they can make her roaming conscious the Phoenix. I know this is the MCU and aliens and magic already are well established but Sara dying off screen before the start of the movie is kinda a let down.
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>>155447951
I hope not because that'd be quite cheap, its an annoying part of comics that no one can permanently die. Except Purple Man, I need them to bring him back and place him in the MCU for the big screen.
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>>155447951
>I don't think Metsker ever said she was dead.
Technically, he did, if he was telling a half-truth to Peter about it.
>William: "Sara was the name of someone I worked closely with that recently passed."
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>>155448286
They haven't really brought anyone from the tv shows to the movies other than Jon Bernthal who's real life friends with Tom and a cameo of Matt Murdock. It they didn't bother to put Kinpin in BND giving Spider-man the key to the city as Mayor or in the montage of villains getting arrested. I don't think Purpleman is coming back, even if he was alive.
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Reminder to ignore trolls!
I love you all anons! Still alive!
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>>155448433
Such a shame, he was such an entertaining villain and could make for a mentor or archenemy to a Jean who is trying to change.
>>155448627
And I love you too my friend! Surprised even the number of threads still fit in your thread screen. So many, I've been storing them too including some of the tv and aco ones.
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Could a show or movie work without Xavier? Like maybe Jean joining Magneto or some other group?
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>>155448433
>It they didn't bother to put Kinpin in BND giving Spider-man the key to the city as Mayor
He kinda hates vigilantes
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>>155449056
Yeah, but he cares about his public persona. In into the Spider-verse he talk at and hosts Peters funeral after he murdering him. Spider-man is beloved in BND to the point that JJJ wasn't even in the movie and even DoDC is playing nice with him while developing tech specifically to fight him. If Fisk is still the Mayor you'd think he'd be there for a photo op.
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Jean spending her birthdays with Peter because he's one of the few people who, despite knowing everything, still believes Jean is a good person.
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>Jean smells so bad that Peter has to bathe her by hand to eliminate the stench
>as he scrubs all the sweat and grease off her skin Peter must hide his gaze from her perky chest and bits below the bath bubbles
>Peter burns Jean's rancid clothes so for a few days she's stuck wearing his stuff much to her delight
>Jean never had a big brother before and wonders if this counts
>she also wonders if he'll ever take up her offer of dipping into her mind to become one with her
>the thought of giving all of herself to him is hard to resist
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>"sibling-coded this, familial bond that!"

Do americans want to fuck their brothers or sisters? I don't get it.
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>>155450638
Zoomers have a strong aversion to the possibility of heterosexual relationships between characters who were not born in the same year. Their brains are completely fried by social media and pedophilia scares.
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>>155450737
Holy fuck this is accurate. I remember zoomers seething that I pair then just because they're hetero. But it's okay if they gay huh?
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>>155449768
The "stinky sweaty hobbo psycho telepath gf" anon is going to love this one.

>>155450638
I think it's because westoids have been so atomised and devoid of actual family bonds that they see siblings and friends in people who would normally be considered candidates for romantic partners. Not to mention the whole "found family" obsession, LOL
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First for Zendaya is butt-fugly and Sadie is qt and saved the franchise and also their age gap could be a little wider!
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>>155445550
Cute white boy x cute white ginger girl
>vs mystery meat
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>>155451808
>First
Don't you mean fifty-sixth?
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https://youtu.be/zRcPdOOnX9E

I LOVE YOU saki e

boku wa mou hitori janai ne
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>>155451929
What mystery meat?
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Not enough attention is paid to the fact that Frank says Jean was in the hospital room and only just left when Peter was going to wake up
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I like that Jean doesn't have the traditional heroic build and looks more like an emaiciated teen. Makes it easier to imagine her being raped
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>>155452684
Imagine the romantic looks (and imagine the smell)
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>>155452684
Was she holding his hand the entire time?
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>>155452684
And when people tell me they’re soooo sibling-coded like, sure man, a girl you just met would do this for you after opening yourself up to be vulnerable for her would act like your fucking sister over it
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>>155449768
Oh...f-fuck, you're gonna make me cum, anon! Imagine the black water running down the tub every time it makes contact with Jean's soft slightl toned body, Peter's hand coming in caked in grime as he tries to avoid staring at the beautiful pale freckled and soft skin underneath.
Peter asking Jean to wash her breasts and hairy pussy herself since him doing that would be "too weird"
Jean grinning and teasing Peter by asking him to stop being a pussy and finish what he started, spreading her legs and pressing her small perky breasts against his face for him to wash.
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>>155452768
>I like that Jean doesn't have the traditional heroic build and looks more like an emaiciated teen. Makes it easier to imagine her being raped
Good luck trying to rape someone with mind control. You need no muscles to protect yourself with that, I heard last guy who tried that, Jean could sense his intentions from a mile away and convinced him to stick his cock down a wood chipper.
Note that everyone is defenseless to her and Peter is the first individual who can resist her abilities, which is precisely what made her so obsessed with him.
>>155452784
>Imagine the romantic looks (and imagine the smell)
I am imagining, it must be amazing
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Now that Wolverine is a child killing homosexual grandpa, it’s safe to say, Peter’s rival is only Cyke
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>>155453472
What if Feige inverts the love triangle and its Carol vs Jean for Peter's heart? On the other hand didn't one anon mention that Marvel is deciding between Jean and Black Cat as main love interest?
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>>155453516
Black cat could be good but I don't see how she'd fit marvel. Bit by a radioactive cat?
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>>155453516
Black Cat brings nothing to the table. the love triangle should be MJ VS Jean for Peters Affection
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>>155446568
love it
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>>155453707
2 redheads seems like too much. If Holland truly sold his soul to marvel to make 10 more spiderman movies like it was published on /tv/'s spiderphoenix thread, then may as well add Gwen Stacy
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>inb4 the lesson learned is there is always more money to be made with strong relationships that aren't necessarily romantic
>safer since people can always ship them, or choose to see them as """family"""
>this means no Peter/Jean, no Peter/MJ, no Jean/Scott, no Emma/Scott, no Rogue/Gambit, no anything
>just endless winks to the camera
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jean felicia peter love triangle desu
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i DON'T want them to be together
I want them to SUFFER

I want Jean to fall in love with Peter and realize HE DOESNT LOVE HER BACK and become so DEPRESSED she's almost SUICIDAL because her favorite man doesn't love HER
I want PETER to feel IMMENSE GUILT at how EMOTIONALLY DEPENDANT jean becomes and still FEEL NO LOVE for her because she TORTURED HIM ON PURPOSE
I want JEAN to go through ALL THE SUFFERING Emma Frost went through in that one comic when she realizes she cant have PETER
I want JEAN to SUBMIT HERSELF TO THE PHOENIX because shes so DEPRESSED Peter wont LOVE her
I want PETER to feel like he RUINED HER LIFE by not RETURNING HER FEELINGS

Basically what happens in MHA Vigilantes finale arc
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>>155453818
Add Carol for the square
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>>155453824
It wass good but I still felt the ghost Pop was a bit too much and something of a cop out. Besides I want graphic sex scenes between Sadie and Hollandman where he pumps his thick sticky "web fluid" deep into her v-max as she leg locks him to receive it all, rendered in HD and played in the movie theaters for all ages.
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https://youtu.be/aDEI_3H8EEo
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>>155453825
Could you imagine if they actually went through with her and Peter?
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>>155454034
Would drop it, but no way they do after the awful reception Carol got from the fans. They'd be crazy
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>>155453725
Michelle isnt a red head.
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Considering Daphne Keen X-23 is most likely a mainstay for the MCU it would be weird to have her be canonically OLDER than Jean
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>>155453460
>Jean is much cleaner now
>sitting in the gross bath water
>Peter stands up and tells her to rinse with a shower
>he unplugs the drain and Jean starts to stand up
>he turns around quick to not see her body
>Jean teases her simple spider should do a final clean sweep up close
>Peter sighs and turns to step into the tub
>he shivers in disgust at the shrinking puddle of filth now around his feet
>he turns on the shower and slowly faces her with his eyes closed
>she laughs at him getting his shorts and tank top all soaked
>he pushes her against the shower wall
>Peter soaps the front of his clothes and rubs his body against her with eyes still closed
>he rinses himself then steps out not facing her again
>Jean is speechless and trembling
>Peter blurts that she rinse now and walks out to grab a towel
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>>155454111
Oh I get it, I don't call her MJ because I don't respect her. To me she'll always be Michelle, she can't hope to compete for how great Mary Jane is.
And that's even worse, Michelle is fucking boring and dragging Peter's oneitis would be the most tired and cliche thing ever, would be Clana all over again where it started off cute and by the end everyone was sick of them.
And at least Lana was cute so she was bearable on screen.
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>>155454365
Love it. Peter is a saint to resist not ravaging her right there and then. Also we know Peter got a sex drive, like how he often watches porn as Happy attested to in Far from Home
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>>155453766
>no Peter/MJ
>no Rogue/Gambit
Let's not get too crazy here
>>155452684
>left when Peter was going to wake up
>Jean can't face him yet because of everything she did against Peter, despite his reassurances...
Their reunion WILL be kino and I WILL hero myself if it isn't.
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>>155449768
>>155454365
kek now I'm imagining a scenario where Jean goes along with Peter to visit Yelena and ends up ruining the bath water with her grime, making Yelena shriek and jump to abandon the festering pool that her precious jacuzzi has turned into.
>>155454347
What do Jean's feet smell like?
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I don't get this idea that she's dirty. She made fun of Peter for living in a dingy apartment
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>>155454503
She also made fun of him for avoiding close relationships and losing himself to his mission, asking him to embrace being a monster (just like her).
Jean's real superpower is projection
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>>155454503
>the idea that she's dirty
It's funny and to some extremely hot.
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>>155454503
To me its hot because I'm a smellfag, I like sticking my nose in all sort of places because the world is full of many fun scents. But realistically, she probably only be somewhat dirty.
She got mind control, for all we know she controlled rich hotel owners to let her stay at the best places and make staff cater to her.
But she was also on the run from the government so she couldn't afford to stay in one place too long or attract too much attention. So she'd be in a healthy amount of stink.
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>>155454515
>asking him to embrace being a monster (just like her
This nonsense came out of nowhere. She spent the whole movie torturing him and suddenly she is arguing about this whole Power vs Identity concept that has nothing to do with the rest of the movie. Tasm 2 tier writing. Her sister just got confirmed dead and she's ranting about this.
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>>155454560
When Peter was smashing Scorpion and flipped a cop car Jean saw all that through Scorpions eyes. She also witnessed Peter holding Michelle off the roof edge. She liked seeing him as a "monster" already. All smiles both times.
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>>155454560
I don't think so. While it may be bumpy due to the difficulty selecting villains and the post shoot editing, her motivations seem to make sense for a young psycho terrorist telepath.
>start of the movie she thinks she's got a lead and because she's young and impulsive thinks it can be easily achieved using her powers
>finds spiderman can't be controlled, something that had never happened before, gets curious
>starts a side mission to understand why he can't be controlled since she thinks her sister is just fine and she can afford to play around with her food and go get her anytime
>starts to truly want to hurt him after he calls her dangerous and saying damage control is right in trying to catch her
>he surrenders so she thinks he isn't really much of a threat and can be intimidated into submission by threatening her loved ones. the fact she got a hulk and just got the damage control boss means she no longer has to care much about spiderman
>Peter turns the tables on her and she's captured
>her dialogue with Peter after she learns of her sister's fate is more of a "why do you keep clinging to humanity? they're all monsters and nothing matters" since she is grieving that her quest was doomed from the start, might even wish for a hero to tell her there's still hope
>Peter ends up saving her life in more ways than one, and now she tries to return the favor and hold onto the hope that life's still worth living
I mean she's impulsive, sadistic, and reckless. Not precisely a "you fell for my years long masterplan" kind of character. I think the last part was just Jean feeling grief for her sister and completely alone, so she asks Peter "what's the point?"
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>>155454681
And she had a shit eating grin while Peter was beating the fuck out of her. Bitch probably wants a "monster" to smash her v-max and fill her up, is Jean into bdsm?
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>>155454560
Jean made a few remarks. She's projecting the persecution she feels that she and Sara received.
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>>155454503
She also makes fun of Peter for being alone without anyone knowing who he is, despite the fact that she is alone and nobody knows who SHE is, either.
>Destin: "This is a character who can jump into other people's minds, and experience the lives of other people, but she's also a person who is completely alone in this city and nobody really knows the REAL her."
>>155454560
>This nonsense came out of nowhere.
While she explicitly wanting him to become a monster is something only directly told in third act only, she was constantly teasing him about trying to repress himself before and working with people who would benefit from it.
>"I wanna know why a half-human, half-spider would decide to work for an organization whose sworn mission is to hunt down anybody who's different."
>"You spent 4 years erasing Peter Parker from existence? No wonder the spider is trying to swallow up the man..."
>"You're running out of time, Peter. Soon enough, it won't just be your friends who don't remember Peter Parker."
>"Trying to muzzle me like you muzzle yourself?"
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>>155454746
Jean will only meet Peter again face-to-face because she hopes he slaps her silly then apologizes with hugs. A perfect scenario to get him close so she can bite his neck
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>>155454945
>bite his neck
He probably will bite her in return.
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What would be a proper place to take someone like Jean Grey on a date?
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>>155455227
Arcade?
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>>155453824
>i DON'T want them to be together
>I want them to SUFFER
Marvel Editorial, what are you doing here?
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>>155455479
Nah she must love dancing
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>>155445604
>>155445612

You may kiss the bride
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>>155455555
Checked but that means she might enjoy DDR or DANCERUSH STARDOM. Don't think she would enjoy an overwhelming atmosphere with a lot of people like a club.

Also she might like concerts, but prefers to be on the balcony with seats or just having some place to sit.
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>>155455616
Can she keep reading minds while possessing someone? Otherwise she may enjoy entering other's bodies for the calm of being them and enjoying a concert by dancing through their bodies.
That would make a balcony the ideal spot since she would have plenty of minds to read and control as she pleased.
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>>155455604
Is Jean a good kisser? Is Peter? Is Ned?
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>>155455872
Are you doubting sex god ned leeds?
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Do you think Jean Grey ever lived like this?
https://youtu.be/-oq1z10QtOs
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>>155455872
You doubt the Chief Executive Officer?
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Bet this is how she felt when she realized she can't control him.
https://youtu.be/M2EnkK3fxMM
>"I just don't get it, why can't I CONTROL YOU?"
>Oooh Peter...I promise I'll find a way
>and when I do...the things that I'll do to you, my dear simple spider~
>Dear God I'd do anything to see the look on your face when you realize you're helpless
>I'll make you want me, then reject you. Devastate you, over and over until you want to die...
>And I won't even give you the satisfaction of death either.
>You'll wither away, like someone dying of thirst or starvation. A special ring of hell, made perfectly for you
>Just you wait, my simple spider~
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>>155455227
wine and dine
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>>155456650
Hot dog stand style wine or classy gourmet restaurant style dine? And how many dates before she accepts going to the love hotel?
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>>155456667
Probably a casual dining joint like Chili's or Olive Garden or something. A real sit-down restaurant but nothing too fancy either. At least 3 dates.
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>>155456715
Nice!
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>>155456572
>Maybe I'll get strong enough to control her again...
>Don't be so sure I can't get into your mind. I'm a lot more powerful since I last tried.
>>155456397
>Do you think Jean Grey ever lived like this?
It wouldn't be out of question, since she HAD to be living somewhere, but she doesn't seem to be well-versed in telepathic suggestions (Like FoXavier and Kilgrave), so her targets were probably loners for her to move simultaneously like she does with Frank & Banner.
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>>155457475
>Maybe I'll get strong enough to control her again...
>Don't be so sure I can't get into your mind. I'm a lot more powerful since I last tried.
Truly mirrors to each other, Killgrave is what Jean could have become if she fully embraced becoming a monster and without a Peter to save her. Still...was using THAT much tongue essential for her plan to work?
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Would Ned be supportive of Peter and Jean being together? (assuming he remembers)
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>>155457851
yeah
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>>155456715
Who's buying the condoms?
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>>155456715
He should take her to the Thai restaurant May took Peter to in homecoming when he confesses his larb for her.
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>>155457923
Peter because "its the gentlemanly thing to do" only to find out he has no money and Jean has to lend him
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>>155457851
Probably, but be surprised when Peter reveals Jean is the terrorist who bombed Damage Control and froze half the city.
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>>155457594
>was using THAT much tongue essential for her plan to work?
All part of her THROUGH investigation of Peter Parker as a person.
Violating his friends' minds, invading his apartment, and trying to invade HIS mind just to find out more about him and break him in ways that would truly work.
And it works for a bit. She has Peter begging for her to stop. I don't even remember if Peter ever begged, let alone admit defeat, before.
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>>155449417
so do the X-Men just enable the worst in all their members
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>>155458327
They are all assholes to the point the tank stealing bomb planting hulk releasing telepath might be the most moral of the bunch. Just compare with Emma and what the other mutants are like.
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>>155458576
Emma might be the worst of the bunch
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>>155458576
What would Jean's thoughts be on sexy clothing?
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In the very few times Jean battled Peter in the comics he was ALWAYS too strong for her psychic grip
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>Peter wakes up to Michelle dryhumping his morning wood
>After the horny lull nearly fries his fucking brain he snaps out of it. Michelle wouldn't do this
>JEAN! GET OFF!
>Michelle suddenly shifts her weight, and Jean sits up in her own body
>Peter tells Michelle that Jean just used her body without her consent again
>Oh, well it's not like I remember anyways...
>Jean smirks
>Peter stares in abject horror wondering what Michelle became in those last 4 years
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>>155455555
I honestly doubt mcu jean knows how to dance
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>>155460002
Maybe Sara taught her
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>>155459852
How much did Michelle run the cock carousel in college while Peter was still pining for her?
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>>155460267
If she can quickly pick up on how to drive a tank and fly a helicopter. She can learn how to dance.
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They are not going to put an age gap romance in the mcu you dumb fucks
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>>155461451
But enough about Logan and Jean, unless you meant Emma and Scott.
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I am bringing this up because I didn't know this before last thread but it's interesting that Emma Frost as a teenager was yandere over Peter in those comics. I wonder if any part of that will make it over to the MCU and affect her dynamic with Jean.
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>>155461669
Probably just another reason for Jean to not like her.
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>>155461451
In real life RDJr is 61 and Gwyneth Paltrow is 53. In world Thor is a 2000 year old demi god and Jane is a 30 something year old scientist. Hugh Jackman was only 30 then they filmed X-men 2000. Sadie had a 30 year old romantic love interest in some Taylor Swift video when she was 19, she'll be 25 or 26 by the time she does an proper x-men movie. I don't know what characters your talking about JeanxPeter, JeanxLogan or ScottxEmma but your talking out your ass. Every action movie with a male lead over 40 has the female love interest played by someone a bit younger.

>>155461669
Emma will either be a straight up villain or a teacher at the school and foil for Jean who's trying to turn over a new leaf after NewYork.
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>>155462134
Elizabeth Olsen and Paul Bettany too. Yet guarantee these people would fldefend the shit out of them, if you also consider Wanda and Vision's age.

The true problem with these people is that they will always see Sadie as a child.
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>>155463183
Shit! 18 year age difference he's almost old enough to be her dad. I forget he was in A Knight Tale back in the day.

>The true problem with these people is that they will always see Sadie as a child.
To bad the Stranger Things audience collectively never watched The Impossible.
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So basically Toradora

All of the content of this ship is just Toradora
The artists even draw Jean looking like Taiga all the time and making her act like a tsundere
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>>155459385
Jean's role in Peter's crossovers with the X-Men (when she's around) is often the amicable/conflict-solver member of the X-Men.
>Marvel Team-Up #4 has her being the reason he's cured, with her holding him off being the reason their fight stops.
>Marvel Team-Up Annual has him saving Jean from being captured by robots twice (and ends with her saving everyone because she powergaps everyone).
>X-Men/Spider-Man has her searching for him through the dance floor in order to warn him about mutant persecution.
>Amazing Spider-Man has her being knocked out being the reason Spidey stops fighting the OG 5 so he could save her.
She is the one member from the original 5 that he doesn't butt-heads that much with.
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>>155464295
Shes gonna be the one to stop the X-men from brutalizing Spidey by choosing his side over them.
After they find out he made the inhibitor that is.
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>>155464457
I can see it, so much plot potential. I think Jean chasing Metzger could also make for a great series
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Still waiting on any MCU Jean Grey merch, hoping we don't have to wait until Secret Wars.
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>>155465142
Is there MJ and Ned merch? She doesn't even have a costume yet.
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>>155465142
Tobey and Andrew took like 6 months after NWH for reveal and a year for release. Same with a lot of Endgame figures. Jean's not even in the movie artbook.
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>>155465142
I'd buy her hoodie
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>>155455604
>>155457984

Lmao
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>>155465513
I hate that Marvel likes doing this with surprise characters. Jean isn't featured in the mobile games even though Scorpion is added to them as if he's the frontliner for BND
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>>155465478
Unfortunately I saw a Michelle figure
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>>155466311
If you don't like it, then stop playing mobile games. but seriously stop playing mobile games they're trash
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>>155465478
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>>155466728
kek wonder if someone really buys the Ned toy
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>>155466956
You mean The CEO of Sex, the guy in the chair, Wongs secret son. Why not he's the main character, he's the Archor being of the MCU. You buying his action figure is a canon event.
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>>155467088
Agreed, he's the most based character
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>>155445550
is this jean grey better than the x-men one?

i don't want peter to get his mind blended by jean.
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>>155467567
No, this is the worst version of Jean ever made. Most Jeans only do bad things because she is overpowered and doesn't understand her own limits. MCU Jean is an abusive psycho who tortures and rapes Spider Man just for being an inconvenience. She's literally a villain. They ruined her
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You already know after another whole day working with the X-Men (she had to do at least 80% of the work for those bums,) she's ready to finally come over and cuddle in Peter's bed. Probably will also end up venting about how annoying her teammates are.
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>>155467737
>Ugh, Scott can be so uptight. Rogue's such a drama queen. Bobby and Kitty are brats.
>I'm really glad I have you, Peter. You're the only one who gets me.
>Yeah, sure Jean (every weekend...)
>I heard that! Now get over here, I want to start the movie.
>Alright. Jean, did you drink right out the bottle again?
>What, worried about mutant germs? You'll get plenty more tonight.
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Why she angy?
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Why she cy?
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>>155467650
Meds
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>she's an adult she's an adult
>Based Asians draw her true canon age as a child to jerk off to lolis
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>>155467650
>t. Zendaya stans
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>>155467737
Imagine Scott simping for her and she just talked shit about him to Peter but Peter advised her not to play with his feelings.
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>>155467650
You’re either a fat Chud, a nerdy Nigger, or an actual faggot. We’ve seen your kind before
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>>155469027
>Scott is paired with Emma
>But they never actually have physical sex because Emma just initiates psychic sex
>Turns out Emma didn't have psychic sex with him either, she just made him think they did like she did with the crowds in the comic
SCOTT NEVER SCORED
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>>155469085
If BND needed an evil telepath, why not Emma?
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Scott is more purehearted than Peter.
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>>155469201
>Cheats on his wife
uh huh...
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>>155469127
Because Jean is a redhead and they're secretly planting the seeds for Peter and Jean as the Mary Jane expy.
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Megane Jean
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>>155469201
>serial cheater
>"homo superior"
>rightclops
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>I want you for your mutant genes
vs
>I want you for you
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They should have Cassandra Nova meet Jean, since her method of mindreading is intentionally made to come across like rape
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>>155469510
One of the recent comic has Jean vs Cassandra and she fingered her head like she does.
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AS time goes by I actually don't mind that Peter in BND doesn't exhibit any kind of financial troubles. Hell one could argue he's probably the 'richest' among the three Spider-Men
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>>155469550
>The rapist becomes the raped
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>>155469201
>Scott
>purehearted
Anon, even the normalfags know he is a serial cheater.
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>>155469201
Keep telling yourself that, anon
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>I found this nice guy named Scott?
>Scott?
>Yeah
>Do you like him?
>Yeah..
>Then go get him Tiger
>... You're the best brother ever Peter
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>>155469643
Look, at a certain point, every comic character ends up basically committing every crime and injustice imaginable. Is it fair that some of them, like both of the Marvel Hanks, seem to have it stick more than the others? No. But it's a bit silly to sit here and pretend this gets rid of what the starting concept of the characters was. Charles is a fucking monster nowadays, but is that really worth having an X-Men story where he's not still the man with a dream?

Now, I'm not sure if I'd call Scott purer than Peter either. And it'd be myopic not to point out this entire series of pseudo-generals is about the most grey version of Jean ever introduced so it's not exactly a sure thing that the Scott that goes with her would be some boy scout either.

But mostly I wanted to whine about how much abuse comicbook characters have undergone. Peterfags should try to understand that feeling, at least.
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We just escaped DECADES of tyranny from Wolverine fans treating him as the better option for Jean. I'm not letting Spider Man jump into that role.
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>>155445550
It's still in theaters!
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>>155470375
Look, it's not gonna happen anon, and this is a very peculiar version of Jean, so I don't think you need to worry about there being an official Spider-Man videogame where Jean turns out to be the reincarnation of his true love and dead wife or something.

And if they do make it canon in the movies, which they won't, and make it a long term thing in the comics, which they super won't, I will indeed feel very sorry for you. But somethings aren't worth worrying about.
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Few years ago if you told someone that Jean Grey would be the beloved villain of a Spider-Man film, which would somehow lead to fans shipping them together, they would call you cringe and stomp your balls. Simply put the chances have went from non-existent a few months ago to an absurd possibility. Not sure what happened but this timeline has gone off the rails. All roads lead to SpiderPhoenix (though maybe in a isolated comic mini-series.)

Chances have never been higher, don't lose hope, and yada yada yada.
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>>155470550
I can remember one of the arguments that it should have been firestar being that it's a redhead who can actually function as a spider man love interest *unlike* Jean

Well so much for that
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>>155470387
What do you say anon, should I watch it a fourth time for the sake of Peter x Jean?
How can I tell this to Feige, that I'm willing to give him ALL MY MONEY if he makes Peter x Jean canon?
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>>155470076
canon
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This is the most pain any Peter went through in a movie
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>>155461451
why are you guys mad we just shipping peter and jean
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>>155467567
This is the most morally "grey" versions of the character outside evil clones and possessed by an eldritch god. Jean is the Sue Storm of the x-men, the token girl of the team that dates the leader, gets caught in love triangles and usually plays mediator when the boys are fighting. She's way more bland in the comics.
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>>155469085
Comics Scott and Emma fucked constantly.
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>>155471284
Oh man I always find cyclops to look so lame with his glasses.
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>>155471462
It is bullshit that Scott didn't get control of his powers during Krakoa. He didn't need the stupid sunglasses during Whedon's run.
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>>155471284
I think in the MCU X-Men it will be Cyclops and Angel and Jean will be Cyke's beard
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>>155461881
This, they turned a meme ship to a real one which pisses off Cykefags. Before Peter x Jean came along, they hated Jean so much for being a Mary Sue and for sidelining Scott
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>>155470638
I think there is still the problem of Disney owning Firestar movie rights but not Sony. Hasn't Firestar been paired with the X-Men too?
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Do you think a Jean x Peter visual novel work?
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>>155472347
If it was from Jean's POV it would work. Peter's POV is just the movie.
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>>155472347
You know I'm actually decently surprised that a Spiderman visual novel has never been done. You could have routes for the big three (MJ, Gwen, and Felicia) and then routes for less known spider-ships like Chat, Kitty, and Jean.
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>>155472347
I was actually thinking about that idea the other day but it seems too big to happen. Would probably end up similar to that Rogue-Like: Evolution game in terms of scale, so maybe no music or sound. Would be crazy though.
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>>155472408
>>155472434
>>155472437
Thanks for the input, I'm a small time dev and about to release one game. So I got free time to spare and I'm so in love with this ship that I was thinking of making a spiderphoenix visual novel or minigame for free, just out of love for this ship.
The other alternative I was thinking was a shooter game based on Jean's telekinesis, something small in scope but fun to show support for this ship.
If there are better ideas, I'd be happy to know them.
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>>155472268
I don't think that's it. Disney owns the rights to Jean and Frank Castle and kinda sorta The Hulk. Sony is more than happy to let Marvel put them in a Spider-man movie and their more than willing to put Tom in as many crossover movie as Disney wants. As long as Sony is getting paid.
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>>155472518
Will it remain like that forever? Who got more, Sony or Marvel?
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>>155470550
>Not sure what happened but this timeline has gone off the rails.
Genuine Kang moment where they just threw stuff on the wall to see what sticks.
Remember, Destin was supposed to direct the Kang Dynasty before they moved him to BND.
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>>155472975
How can one man make such a shitty Kang choices yet hit gold with Jean and Peter?
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>>155472671
Along as a Spider-man movie gets made ever few years (MCU or Spider-verse) Sony will hold the rights in perpetuate (or until Spider-man becomes public domain which should be 2058). I don't know what the split is but I believe Marvel is paying for most if not all of the production and Sony only consults on scripts. So as long as Marvel/Spider-man remains popular it's little to no work and free money for Sony. Even if they could go back to pre MCU they won't. Unless MCU Spider-man starts tanking like Morbus/Kraven/Madam Web or maybe we'll see what happens when Tom leaves. That won't be for a for at least another 2 Spider-man movies plus crossovers so 5-10 years.
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>>155469127
Hard to sell the idea of Emma being younger than Peter
Or looking like a sweaty mess
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more jealous jean, please and thank you
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>>155473243
imagine a sweaty samara weaving
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>>155473183
Sony doesn't hold the rights forever, they can only keep the rights so long as they keep making movies with Spider-Man associated characters. I don't know if this extends to the MCU where they collaborate with Disney on, but that depends.
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>>155473243
In the comics they're close enough in age that you could change it. Felicia Hardy is sometimes younger and sometimes older, Betty sometimes the same age and sometimes an adult secretary and in the comics Ned Leeds is a grown ass man when Peters in high school.

>>155473309
>I don't know if this extends to the MCU where they collaborate with Disney on, but that depends.
It's probably more legally complicated than that saying it does but it more or less does otherwise Sony would have never agreed to the deal and pumped out Amazing Spider-man 3 or some shitty spinoff. They gave up their TV rights just to get an extention on keeping their movie rights they aren't gonna risk letting their movie rights slip again over an animated film like spider-verse being in development hell and they've said they're basicly done with the Sony-verse.
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Yo she never said she's not MJ so she is definitely MJ

Marry Jean
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>>155473534
Fuck I love her so much. Tom is a lucky guy
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>>155473243
you could make the same argument for Jean
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>>155469201
The only thing pure is his body count with women
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>>155473008
it was mainly to salvage it, it's really Loveness responsible for Kang choices.
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Sony and MCU bungled Mary Jane so hard they have people shipping something that never existed in 62 years
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>>155473243
This was literally the case with teen Emma and Peter
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>>155475576
No time to post the Twitter screencap?
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Actually talking about movie characters that could have been other characters based on the comics, is there someone else Michelle Jones could have been? Maybe Gwen but she was already in the ASM trilogy or is MCU MJ simply too new all around?
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>>155470819
Another 7 times!
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>>155445604
It appeals to Asians which is especially important for a steady stream of (good) fanart
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>>155454412
>>155475267
The actual style doesn't feel much like "I know a fujo made this," but something about both of these still gives me that vague aura. Maybe it's Peter's butt being pretty prominent in both.
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>>155476042
cute and canon
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>2025
Why is Jean Grey in a spider-man movie?
>2026
Why isn’t Jean Grey in every spider-man movie?
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I love that Jeans name in japanese is transliterated as Jin
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Mr. Feige I think it would be very cool if you made Cyclops the very first openly asexual superhero on the big screen! He would be a cool dude solely focused on the mission :)
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Destin admitting that he chose Jean to be younger so she could work as an audience surrogate really makes me see the "You have me" scene in a different light.
In-universe, it's Peter comforting someone who mirrors his emotional journey in every way, so she could learn the same lesson it took 4 years for him to understand, and assuring he'll be there every step of the way, if needed be.
Meta-wise, it's Spider-Man teaching the audience the same thing.
>We wanted an antagonist that would be a real reflection of Peter Parker and where he is in his emotional journey [...] and I cannot think of a better reflection than where we landed.
>I was really interested in having our antagonist be somebody who's younger than Peter, who really represents, in many ways, what young people are going through right now and what they are feeling.
>This is a character who can jump into other people's minds, and experience the lives of other people, but she's also a person who is completely alone in this city and nobody really knows the REAL her, and that feeling, to me, felt like a young person's experience.
It's really the "May and Peter comfort you ASMR" session.
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>>155477559
I would very much like to be hugged by Marisa Tomei
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>>155477616
*to be impregnating
FTFY
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Do you think Jean in fan art is just like MJ (comic) when it comes to personality?
Personally, I’ve tried to give her my own spin, though I admit I might make her a bit too cheerful at least when she’s around Peter and indifferent toward everyone else.
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>>155476062
Hopefully the nips don't stop and keep the gravy train going
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Damn I'll miss you guys and the fun times we had when these threads die. Hopefully BND going on streaming gives the ship another boost.
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Unfortunately while you can switch the language settings on most Marvel movies, you will not actually get the japanese cut of the movie if you switch it to japanese.
The different dubs are considered different cuts of the movie, technically, due to the changes (For example Inside Out and Pokemon change OST and visuals in their international dubs meaning they are different products)
If you switch the language you still get the american OST, just the japanese dialogue. You need an imported copy of the Japanese version in order to hear the full Japanese audio with Brand New at the end.
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I feel dirty for liking this ship because they are sibling coded. My big brother gets uppity if I try to hug and kiss him lol
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>>155480051
Coded is just a word for "my headcanon says so"
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>>155480051
Shut up faggot
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Reddit has spoken. We have the numbers. MARCH!
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>>155481665
What the fuck guys
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>Peter did I hear you complaining about my stench to Ned on the phone?
>maybe?
>I shower every couple days now. Does that mean nothing to you?
>I know Jean but-
>so saying how much I stink to Ned-
>I kinda miss it okay?!
>what are you talking about Peter?
>I was complaining to Ned about missing how you used to smell before which makes me a total hypocrite
>well I haven't showered yet today
>I saw you put on deodorant this morning
>there's still a part of me that smells...ripe
>you don't need to- and now you're dropping your pants
>well?
>well now it would be super rude if I don't take you up on your offer
>wise choice, my simple spider
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This ship has no endgame, it'll never happen
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>>155480043
https://youtu.be/zRcPdOOnX9E they can larp with this ig
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>>155475267
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>>155481665
What's SpiderSai?
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>>155482747
It's always possible they make a comic AU where Peter and Jean are bonded but it won't have the same dynamic as the MCU
We just got the reveal that mangaverse Miles and X23 were childhood friends turned mortal enemies
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>>155482747
I don't care, I'm having fun
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>>155482903
let's put on our thinking caps, anon
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Should have been Emma. She not only had this comic arc already but it fits her character better than Jean's. It also works with Emma's moveset better.
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>>155483002
All these years I thought Emma mentioning she had a crush on Peter was a joke and not her life falling apart as she collapsed into a yandere mindset for Peter
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>>155482903
Peter x Psylocke. Pretty sure it exploded when someone posted this image from Marvel Rivals. A bit more of a self inserty type pairing.
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>>155483150
>>155482903
Wait why did I explain it to you, It had an image explaining the ship,
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Daniel RPK and several others hinted that this guy will become the next MCU big bad
I hope so. The way he presented himself as "Just trying to do right" even while literally torturing Jean was unsettling.
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>>155483286
They did it, they recasted Kang
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>when u exposed his identity to his crush, sexually assaulted him, provoked him into nearly killing a police officer, broke into his house, humiliated him, beat him senseless until he was begging you to stop, sent one of his childhood idols back into a psych ward, threw an army of super powered ninjas at him, threatened to destroy everything he has left, called him mean names, and insulted his ugly apartment and he still keeps reaching out
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>>155483516
>he still keeps reaching out
>her face when he starts reaching in
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>>155483564
This scene was important because it was a reminder that Jean is ultimately weaker than Peter. If she is in the direct viscinity there is nothing she could actually do to stop him from pinning her down and fucking her like a sex doll. Even with her Telekinesis, Jean is traditionally only strong enough to hold down lesser heroes. She can freeze large populations of people but someone like Spidey or the Hulk will be able to force their way out of her psychic grip and still keep fighting.
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>Peter is sitting with Jean on a rooftop
>You know, Herman and Jackson aren't that bad, they're just down on their luck, you know. They keep breaking out of prison but they just want to rob banks, make money.
>Who are you talking about?
>The Shockers
>Oh, them. Well, I've been inside their head and I disagree. They wanted to hurt you
>Doesn't mean you should make them punch each other with those gauntlets! You could've killed them!
>Jean shrugs
>But I didn't
>Jean... You can't use your abilities like that..
>They're my powers, only I can choose how to wield them
>But you need to be more careful, they're just regular people
>blah blah, be careful, says the spider who almost killed someone fighting Scorpion
>Peter goes silent, looking hurt
>Jean takes a moment to savor her victory, but immediately regrets it
>Sorry...
>Awkward silence
>Peter?
>She cups her hands around his face and makes him look at her
>I'm sorry, ok? The words just... came out
>I know
>He takes her hands off himself, takes a deep breath and stares at the night sky
>You're too reckless
>You may not realize it but I'm learning how to use my powers better. We fight bad guys you wouldn't even imagine the strength of.
>It's not just about fighting better. We're heroes because we save people. Since we have these powers, the powers to stop bad things from happening, we should do it.
>By beating the bad guys, we stop these bad things, we can just overpower them, make them fear and respect us
>But then we would become the villains
>Peter looks at Jean
>You don't need someone to train you how to fight better. You need someone to guide you, to become more responsible. A better hero.
>A better hero, huh... I don't think I need someone.
>She leans in and rests her head on his shoulder, then hugs his arm, smiling
>I already have you, don't I? There's no better hero than my hero.
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>>155481665
We did it Reddit
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>>155481665
>Jean x Scott getting mogged that hard
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Jott doesn't need a dedicated sub because the normal X-Men sub IS the Jott sub!
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>>155483916
Don't worry Cyclops... Emma is still there
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The movie should have established that The Hand have super powers in a clearer way. I keep seeing people complain that spider man should easily beat them and these are ninjas who, individually, can take on WOLVERINE. They are not just trained ninjas, they literally have super powers.
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>>155481665
>>155482747
It's just shipping, we are just having fun pairing Peter and Jean together. Whether it becomes true or not is fine
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>>155481665
1. I'm really surprised that Spidersai is so popular.
2. Why not "Spiderlocke"?
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>>155481665
Who cares what reddit thinks?
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>>155484629
I don't care what reddit thinks but the fact that the subreddit is so massive is a pretty clear reflection of how popular the pairing is in general.
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>a post asking who are the best MJ between Dunst, Stone (?) and Zendaya
>I responded with a 4th MJ, Marry Jean
>3 people called me a pedo already
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>>155484375
It's specific to Rivals
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>30 mins into Webslinging and chill when she gives you this look
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>>155484639
I don’t think these are members, pretty sure those numbers are supposedly the amount of visitors that frequent the subreddit
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>>155484933
She looks so experienced, it must feel like heaven getting it from her
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>>155483564
>her face when Peter's fingers go up her vmax
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there are people who are mad that vmax wasn't some kind of special dragon ball or something and was just a vent
that was so much more impactful the fact that it was just her sister's last view as she died. some people need everything to be some comic super bullshit
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>>155485203
I really enjoyed the twist, also it sounds really fun and gave us Jean's v-max. I like that euphemism and will always use it from now on.
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>>155485203
I like the idea but feel like the scene would have had more impact if the Damage Control guy did not more or less already tell Jean that her sister died being experimented on.
It made the vent reveal seem more like Jean being a little too slow to realize it.
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>>155484629
anyone who posts in these shitty threads since they're being spammed by redditors themselves
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>>155484933
Fuck, Jean would be such a kinky girl!
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>>155485698
Yeah they didn't need to have the dude mention Sara's sacrifice and all that shit before the V-Max reveal. Even just dialing back and having him say Sara contributed a lot (past tense) and leaving it at that would've felt less like the writers thought the audience was filled with drooling retards. I also wouldn't be surprised if they added those lines in because test audiences didn't get the V-Max twist without them (yet they somehow oversaw how includng Jean make a guy get hit by a car would be the small detail that would make her "irredeemable" to a good portion of viewers.)
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>>155484933
Imagine being the lucky rich ojii-san who got to casting couch her! Man, how I wish I was a rick ojii-san in cahoots with the producers
Truly an amazing actress and really looks like a pro at her craft.
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>>155483516
>>155483564
Very few times I say it but considering all that...Peter is a keeper
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>w2rom-sama deleted the fanarts because of reuploader
FUCK YOU REUPLOADER HER FANART IS THE BEST
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>>155485054
>I don’t think these are members, pretty sure those numbers are supposedly the amount of visitors that frequent the subreddit
The number of visitors for SpiderPhoenix is 118,000, it tells you at the top of the page. The number of members is at 26,901 right now
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>>155486131
I wouldn't mind a series with these interacting, would be really fun with Peter being the moral center and the others doing psycho banter.
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>>155486257
Who?
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>>155482366
This is so good, imagine Sinking your face in Jean's pungent pits and cunt.
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We lost w2rom, basically one of the best artists at SpiderPhoenix.
That might just cause the ship to start wobbling.
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>>155486257
>>155486980
>>155487068
>the reuploader is an account that spams spiderphoenix art that is both stolen with horrible cropping and AI-generated
>they’re also from Nigeria
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PETER IS FOR FRANK!
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>>155487209
There are still very good artists, but I think he was one of the few Asian artists who actually did several PeterJean pieces.
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>>155485698
One of the stages of grief is denial
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>>155486563
Do you think Frank and Jean could get along?
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>>155487825
After they get over the trying to kill each other part, I could see them becoming fast friends
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>>155482366
>ripe
Fuck, the thought of Jean's ripe cunt makes me rock hard
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They really seem like they would get along if their love lives weren't already messy.
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>>155482366
>oh hey Peter, you're home early
>yeah, uh, not much action today
>not much to see at the park except me huh?
>EV check my mask for holes. I dunno what you're talking about, Jean
>you bought this tight exercise outfit for me and you expect me to believe you never watch me going for my morning jog at the park?
>okay maybe I watched you for a few minutes
>you were thinking about how I smelled at the end of my jog I bet
>nope, not at all
>you're a terrible liar. Give me a hug Peter
>I am not, wait, Jean you still haven't bathed yet?!
>oh please so what if we're both sweaty after a long day
>so our other exercise routine then?
>you wanna do some warm ups first?
>do you even need to ask?
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>>155487825
>Looks like we gotta kill em Frank
>Darn
>Jean and Frank, no!
>Jean and Frank yes!
>(Spiderman stops villain from putting Franks shotgun in own mouth)
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>>155488551
>Jean's ripe cunt
Peter's fw
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>>155486257
Asians hate reuploads
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There is a moment in the Wolverine game where Logan accidentally calls out Jean for being bad at reading people despite being the ability to read minds
Funny that probably applies to MCU Jean
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>>155485832
it can even be vaguer if they just did plural "sacrifices" and maybe instead of "legacy" chose something else. they ultimately had Metzger start gloating basically with singular "sacrifice".

> This instrument is the culmination of your sister’s contributions.

> We built this together over many months of trial and error.

> I hope you and I can honor her sacrifices.

honestly you could even have him say "gift" or "blessing" instead of sacrifices.
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>>155476211
You could be right for the first one since Jean looks rather androgynous, but what makes you think that about the second image?
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>>155485831
>implying Peter isn't the freak
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>>155486980
Drew a lot of the best (imo) pieces of fan art
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>>155475267
It's funny that this was drawn before the movie came out.
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>>155486257
Oh no a singular person was a jerk an reuploaded my art?
Better ruin it for everyone!!
What causes this mindset?
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>>155492151
In Japan it is seen as insanely rude to reupload art without permission
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>>155491856
I wish they would Re-upload my drawings, that would mean I'm good enough.
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>>155490819
Peter is a good guy
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>Listen Spider-Man? Can I talk to you for a second?
>Okay I wanna say I'm annoyed, but I'm actually dumbfounded.
>I've seen you and Jean acting all cheerful these past few months, so I'm shocked that you two aren't a thing yet.
>Huh, don't know what I'm talking about? Mr. "you have me," everybody in this mansion already knows what happened there.
>You guys can't even keep your eyes off each other every mission we go on.
>And look, just know if you don't make a move, somebody else will. Maybe even that Peter Parker guy she texts.
>So either ask her out soon.... or I will.
>Also I didn't mean to overhear that one time, but it sounds like you need to get over this MJ person.
>Feels very unfair to Jean, and seeing her lose hope is bumming us out.
>You have until Sunday before I make my move. Jean is pretty free all week but let us know if we need to set you guys up on a date or whatever.
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>>155491856
Will he move somewhere else?
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>>155493575
>Jean overhears all this and meets with Peter to spitball schemes on how to publically humiliate Scott
>Jean's fw he humors her but still shoots down every idea because they're all too messed up
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>>155493063
Jean, you dumbass, get off /co/ and bag your man before someone else does.
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>Insomniac Jean going phoenix mode on her very first appearance
someone PLEASE save MCU Jean from this curse
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>>155493984
>Jean about to become The Phoenix to end a grand battle
>instead of screaming JEEEEEAAAAANNN Peter swings towards her saying she shouldn't become something she's not and doesn't need that all that power
>she says without it she's not enough to stop the end of their world
>Peter says you'll always be enough to me
>goes on to say come on, Jean, let's try something else...together
>Jean takes his hand and the Phoenix fades from her body
I have hope they'll use the Phoenix as a character moment instead of some blockbuster setpiece.
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>>155493984
watched a playthrough of that and MCU jean mogs her so hard.
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>>155494157
It's funny seeing a version of Jean who is a fully grown 40 year old woman and somehow as weak as her X Men Evolution counterpart right after MCU Jean froze an entire city during a tantrum
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>>155494230
not only that but her looks and personality. she's so fucking, god insomniac can't write for shit and their female designs are horrid.
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>>155494091
I hope they don't use it at all, I hate when stories go so large everything stops mattering
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ok wheres the good porn
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>>155493984
>Jean and Logan have reincarnation romance like Hawkman and Hawkgirl
>Wolverine took the identity, personality, villain and girl from Cyclops
>Jean has Phoenix Force already from the get go
>Sabretooth has abandonment issues over Wolverine left the team and seething that he destroyed their "family" alongside that Logan never asked to come with him
>Mr. Sinister is fucking Magneto and Professor X with an institute as well and thinking he is the savior for mutantkind
>Apocalypse from the get go and teased as the villain for the next game
>Scott is confirmed to exist in Insomniac verse and living in Alaska, but Insomniac took all his shit and gave it to Logan, so there is a high chance they give Wolverine's personality to him
This feels like Insomniac only watched the Fox films and wrote a fanfic.
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What did Marvel mean by this?
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>>155446568
Why does she look like Clementine from the walking dead?
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>>155495311
photoshop
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>>155494451
To be fair insomniac Jean is more comic accurate than mcu
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>>155495309
Phoenix being merely the super mode of Jeans abilities is definitely a Fox thing
Mystiques powers are also just animated the way they were from the Fox movies

Logan's characterization is also just pulled from Days of Future Past
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>>155495311
fake edit
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>>155495311
"Are you Peter Parker? Or are you Spider-Man?"
>>155496207
>>155496714
It's three pics edited together, but the official Sony & Spider-Man accounts posted this edit.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DdPQz5vj3g3/
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>>155496917
Ohhh my bad
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This movie seems to imply that Tobey activated his mutated form immediately and Andrew didn't despite being heavily traumatized repeatedly
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>>155497328
Maybe Andrew needs to experience more pain?
Tobey's Spidey is built different tho
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Since the spider is generically engineered doesn't that mean the spider is a mutant
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>>155497444
yup, but when he bit peter it mutated his genes, so he is a mutate
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>>155497541
It's funny how this keeps coming up in universe in different media. Peter is always being compared with mutants.
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>>155482899
New peak just dropped, guys
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why isn't she looking at the hulk?
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>>155497693
Gigapeak.

>>155497711
Glad that they film together. I was so paranoid of the actors filming separately thing. Hopefully we get a BTS of Aunt May
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>>155497827
Tom and Sadie not looking at each other here looks cool
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jean grey WEBBED
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porn pics of jean are finally defaulting back to scott.
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>>155498000
For now
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>>155497711
I love her facial structure. She looks super cute
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>>155497711
I admit she looks a bit creepy with the lightning
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>>155498606
She's cute but creepy here
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>>155498695
I like how many facets she got. She can pull off being sexy, cute and creepy. Sometimes all 3 at the same time
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>>155498749
I really like her as an actress due to that.
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>>155447395
It's called being Irish anon. Celtic genes are the most diversely spread phenotype.
Being impossibly flexible, ripped, and having super strength, agility, and stamina just makes it better.
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Why do you fags love this rapey rapist character? If you flip the roles you literally get a rampant killmonger. She penetrates peoples minds and doesn't care how they feel about it. Scratch that, she cares how PETER feels about it.
She kept threatening to get into his head. She was only doing it to say "I can get into your head" after a point. That's as rapey as it gets. A threat of violating him and penetrating him. She's a fucking rapist. She literally performed a sexual act on him using her fucking magic powers. You guys keep talking about her like she's some cute stray dog and not a lunatic with boundary issues who touches people whenever she feels like it. She's an omnipotent monster. She's the reason why mutants around the world will face oppression, she's terrifying. She's dangerous. Spider-man had everything about her correctly understood until he saw her face. That fucking idiot let this dangerous molester run loose. If she'd molest SPIDER MAN she has no moral standards at all.
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>>155499440
She's a hot redhead, so Spidey let her go.
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>>155499592
Is this at Charles' school?
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>>155499592
"Jean, please take your feet off the table"
"Oh yeah? And what if I don't do it? What are you gonna do about this big bad mutant, Petey?"
"Jean please, your boots are caked with mud"
"Oh then I guess you'll have to 'punish' the big bad misbehaving mutant"
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>reading this fic where Jean was found on the streets as a baby and was raised with Peter
>both of them become heroes and Jean is present during both Civil War and Homecoming
>both Jean and Peter survive the snap during Infinity War
desu I thought Peter was gonna get snapped and his "death" would be Jean's reason to become the antagonist in BND
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>>155499592
She's the type to have shoes on while laying in bed.
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>>155499739
Gross. Please don't tell me she also leaves cookies crumbs everywhere from eating in bed
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I need Peter and Jean to go on just one adventure together as main protagonists
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>>155499802
Same, one movie. I fear they'll reset the universe and ruin all progress with the new avengers film
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>>155499592
Do you think a slob like Peter would care about Jean placing her boots on the table?
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>>155499915
I think most likely Secret Wars will be a hard reset and they will forget each other
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>>155500548
Nah, I think in Secret Wars they will reunite shortly but Peter will leave her with the X-Men, knowing she has a safe place this time.
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I just need Peter to fuck Jean once. I swear to God if he doesn't fuck her I'll kill myself. Peter, PLEASE. FUCK HER FOR MEEE
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>>155500653
Bet Jean would be a very kinky girl
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>>155500776
mfw Jean gets restarted in the new reality as Peter's little sister/classmate after Secret Wars
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>>155500862
Really it feels like the universe is just settling in and they want to restart it all already?!?
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>>155501115
I don't even remember this avengers' roster
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>>155500862
>Jean you need to stop telling people we're like family
>huh, why Peter? Embarrassed I'm basically your little sister?
>brothers and sisters do not do the things we do, Jean...
>how should I know? I never had a brother!
>don't play dumb
>okay fine, maybe a sister doesn't use every part of her brother to get off
>exactly I'm glad we've come to-
>I'll start telling people I'm your owner and you're my service animal
>you wouldn't, please don't
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>>155501592
There hasnt been an avengers since civil war. The new avengers or whatever is ugly widow, fat russian, better captain america, metal arm man, ant man 2 literally who? and Bob.
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>>155501634
kek lucky Peter gets to worship Jean's ripe body
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>>155501761
Its just that girl stink is so good
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Logic
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>>155502043
but i wanna be the male equivalent of sadie sink
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>>155502043
Jean will become a very savage wife
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>>155499440
>She's a fucking rapist. She literally performed a sexual act on him using her fucking magic powers.
>Spider-man had everything about her correctly understood until he saw her face. That fucking idiot let this dangerous molester run loose.
This is contradictory, because you can't rape the willing.
Spidey stops calling her a monster after peeking at her face inside the back of a Taxi cab (despite her just trying to kill MJ).
>>155499612
I think it's from that office scene where she talks with Bill through the radio while Banner tries to break open the safe.
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It's not rape if he sees kissing you while you pretend to be someone else for him to kiss as just kissing you back.
It's not rape if he eventually lets you in after some persistence.
It's not rape if he gives up on fighting you and tells you that you have him.
It's not rape if you spend hours inside him while he's unconscious, even if the last thing he told you was for you to leave.
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>>155502570
Agreed, I fail to see how that was rape because she's hot
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>>155503159
kissing sadie’s abs!
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>>155503159
>"Hey Jean, you are working out?" asked Peter a bit surprised
>"Yeah gotta keep myself strong"
>"I see...I have to say, I didn't expect you to"
>"What do you mean, Pete? Just because I'm a telepath doesn't mean I don't like to stay fit"
>"I see...."
>"Yeah...why are you staring at me like that?" *Jean smirks*
>"Why don't you come here tiger and take a...closer look at my abs? I could use a...tongue bath!"
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Jean is too strong and would ruin the street level tone of the new era
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>>155500610
Kinoooo
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I'm not sure who I want more, Jean or Peter
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>Peter and I are only good friends
>Peter took a bullet for me because he was a friend
>I took the pain of the bullet because he was my BFF
>He lets me crash at his place because he's a good friend
>He lets me hold his hand on the streets because he's a very close friend
>I sent that video of me shaking my ass in jeans for a friendly opinion about what I'm wearing
>I doxxed Mary Jane's address at KiwiFarms to protect my best friend Peter
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>>155500548
Secret Wars resetting the MCU could actually hurt the MCU in the long run by invalidating everything that they built up since Iron Man. It would kill currently running storylines, and they might be lame, Marvel made some huge blunders since Endgame, but killing them to make space for the X-Men would just be a huge fuck you to everyone following them.
I mean, BND finally made Holland click as Spidey so, regardless of shipping, undoing BND would just make me not really care about upcoming Hollandman movies.
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Honestly with all these characters (which still isn't finalized) in the X-Men movie, there might not be room for romance, at least for the first movie. Hope for SpiderPhoenix has increased.
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>Peter and Jean take a cab back to Pete's house after a 3-day fight against Juggernaut that needed the help of Daredevil to beat him, they are too exhausted to web swing or float away
>Traffic is huge during the weekends
>Both look at their respective windows, zoning out
>Jean, despite being told not to, decides to try and read Peter's thoughts to see what's on his head
>She finds him monologuing about how this encounter was the closest he came to death's door, and confesses that he's a bit scared about how fragile his life can be.
>In his mind, he confesess that thinking about Jean is what brought him strength and how he feels guilty about neglecting contact ever since she wanted to Xavier's
>Jean, reading his mind, is touched
>Then he starts reminiscing more romantic feelings for her, about how he wants to kiss her, something which makes her flustered and it kind of makes her want to come clean to him (but she think it's best she waits to tell him at the apartment)
>The imaginary kissing soon starts stretching
>Jean then sees an image of herself getting her ass grabbed by Pete
>Every single possible thing that can be imagined: blowjob, 69, missionary, doggy style, reverse cowgirl, plays like a private porno theater in Peter's mind
>Jean wasn't expecting that and is now kind of embarassed but curious about the whole thing
>Things started getting so spicy that she opens the window from the Uber and starts itching her thigh as to not place her hand *anywhere else* while their inside a cab
>She sees an image of herself, all tied up in webs and blindfolded, restrained, while being piledrived by Peter in a Spidey costume, who soon starts to spread her cheeks
>"DON'T SHOVE THAT THING UP MY ASS!"
>Jean snaps back into reality, the uber driver turns around to see what the hell was going on
>Jean looks at Peter and sees him trying to hold his laughter
>She clearly fell through a trap
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>>155445550
I think a lot of it is carry over MJfags who hate Zendaya.
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Why the fuck did Ned post his own apartment publicly on the internet?
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>>155504248
Back in the old days there were these things called phone books. I the white pages section, you could look up people's names and find their address and phone number. Crazy times.
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>>155501592
There's the Avengers with Sam and nuFalcon, maybe Rhodey, Antman and Wasp, then there's the New Avengers that's the Thunderbolts group
I think
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>>155504239
I like Z but they should have developed her more, she is very likeable and funny in interviews and behind the scenes
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Just like you
Just like me
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>>155504337
>Original Avengers is new coke
>New Avengers (thunderbolts) are just the store brand version
I can't believe I line the thundernolts team more.
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>>155504534
Jean saving symbiote peter would be so romantic
>>155504616
Right? They seem far more interesting
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>>155504230
Agree, but I wish Scott and Angel will like Jean, but she won't be interested
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What is next for /our-couple/?
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>>155504179
Yeah honestly I'm not keen on the idea of the soft reboot for MCU. Even more specifically potential recasting for Iron Man and Captain America and probably even Thor. I'm not saying original actors should still play them (even Wolverine) but I prefer their story ends, and only reboot MCU after Mutant Saga ends or something.
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>>155505582
MCU won't give them a romance, they will most likely prioritize Scott x Jean since it is a very safe choice
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>>155505582
The MCU is not good at shipping at all and will find some way to fumble their dynamic.
The next time Jean Grey appears she will be written by different people with a different mindset
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>>155505821
Agree. I just want to ship then but we know the MCU is bad with romance
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>>155505860
>>155505821
If people don't like that, could it negatively affect the X-Men movie?
That it doesn't generate enough money, or something like that
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>>155505886
I don't think so, but I think the X-Men movie will essily make billions as long as its release is not on the same month/near Batman 2 (Pattinson)

Jean already has an origin in the MCU, they should make sure that Cyclops has a very good one, as Mr. Sinister is his enemy. They should avoid any LGBT love with this first movie (unless Iceman is there
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>>155445612
>Tell the mutants he isn't really grateful to them
>kiss the girl
>breaks their window and fucks off
if he did this to anyone else, Peter would be the asshole, but fuck the X-men.
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>>155445612
This kiss was so random and kind of out of character. Spider Man is a silly guy but he isn't a cartoon trickster. It isn't normal for him to do something intimate with someone just to be silly
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>>155506240
Peter will fuck Jean someday
He also dated Kitty
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>>155506277
I don't think it will happen in the MCU but I won't be surprised if a future AU comic or TV series does Peter and Jean. After all we got Peter x Emma.
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In Red Band Zombiverse we got Peter and Jessica Jones endgame. Anything can happen
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>>155505172
>I wish Scott and Angel will like Jean, but she won't be interested
That's just the X-Men debut issue.
>>155506240
Not to mention that Peter has beef with those 4 in specific, since they (tried to) beat his ass, wet his costume, and didn't even give him a ride back to the city over a misunderstanding.
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>>155506316
Sad for Scott. He was the only person to immediately know Superior wasn't Peter
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I don't ship Peter and Jean, I ship Tom and Sadie. They look like a younger Gosling and Stone and they have very good chemistry as movie leads
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>>155506383
Creepy shit
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>>155506383
That's fuckin weird
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you think the idea was to set up a goblin queen aka the new green goblin for tom hollando, and accidentally made a new crackship theyd be fool not to ride on?
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>>155506407
>>155506416
I personally think they are friends and they have good on-screen chemistry, if they work together more Sadie csn easily get more Emmys/Oscar awards
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>>155506383
Same bro, should be Tom with Sadie and Zendaya with Pattinson. The world would be a better place
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>>155506456
Pattinson and Zendaya have the best chemistry, so far they are literally the best partners for each other
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>>155506443
How would you like a Goblin Queen plot go?
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>>155506274
I think he was just having an angry shitfit and letting his impulses take over
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>>155506344
>He was the only person to immediately know Superior wasn't Peter
Eh, more like he noticed something was off, but didn't press on it after Ock helped him capture Malice, since that meant Spidey was still a good guy.
Even then, the interactions between Peter and Scott are very sparse, since, unlike Logan or McCoy, Cyclops is strictly a X-Man (and a Champion, by technicality) so they hardly interact with each other without the whole team involved.
So, every interaction is either a big fight over whatever, or a fast team-up that involves either Spidey interacting with everyone equally, or him No Way Fagging his way out of X-Men honorary recruitment.
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Jean doesn't say a word to Peter after she starts healing him so we don't actually know what their current character dynamic is
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>>155506848
We don't have an ounce of vocalization beyond:
>Her healing him for an indeterminate amount of time.
>Her leaving before Peter woke up, after realizing he was fine.
>Her not waiting to say proper goodbyes.
>Peter asking about Jean after realizing where he was.
I suppose they care about each other, but we really can't estimate how much.
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>Jean potentially spent days swimming around in Peter's head with unlimited access to his thoughts and feelings
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>>155506916
>>155506962
She may have restored Ned and MJ's memories and she is afraid to show herself to Peter due to shame for what she has done
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>>155506990
People have been asking how its possible for her to do that but it's honestly pretty straight forward considering Jean has always had the ability to overwrite memories, even with fake memories. She could literally just tell them that they know who Peter is and love him very much and it happens
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>>155506990
>>155507008
Not to mention that her memory dives can have their perspective shifted.
She literally took Peter's place on his own memories, and Peter later took May's place when it ended.
She could've just given them back accidentally because of how maleable they are.
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>>155506407
It's true tho, if they star in more roles as partners they can make bank, they are good friends anyway
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>>155506962
Do you think she saw Peter's time in Far From Home and those moments he bought German porn videos?
https://youtu.be/a4leB1o4gt4&t=72
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Does anyone have the edit of the end credits but with the Brand New song?
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>>155507845
>Some Cloning/Multiverse bs happens to Peter AGAIN and he meets Jean, asking her to prove that she's HIS Jean.
>She just starts reciting the whole movie in German beat-by-beat and Peter only realizes what's happening when the spicy stuff begins.
>>155507856
https://youtu.be/reIDU5b-D5Q
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>>155508056
It would be fascinating if BND Jean is a clone by Mr. Sinister and real Jean is with the X-Men

If they can do that in the reboot it would be controversial
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>>155508056
Nice! Fiery redheads are the best
Also new Peter x Jean art landed at /aco/ Jean thread
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>>155508056
Is Jean the kind of girl who watches porn?
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>>155507845
FUCK MAN Peter and Happy's dynamic was genuinely so cute in FFH and then they just forget it
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>final fight of the movie, whole X-Men team is overwhelmed
>Mr. Sinister has Jean Grey by the throat, tells her it's over and she has no one
>"In fact, let me help you see that."
>Mr. Sinister starts jacking her mind and trying to erase her memories
>Feeling unable to fight back, Jean notices a lone spider on the wall
>flashback to that scene of Peter hugging her
>"You're wrong.... I do have someone and I WON'T LET YOU TAKE THAT AWAY FROM ME."
>gains a power boost and starts ripping Mr. Sinister to shreds
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https://files.catbox.moe/7ubb09.jpeg
Spiderphoenix has to be one of the softest pairings ever made. All of the hentai (with the exception of a TINY few images) is extremely romantic or intimate. There's barely any porn of them mindlessly plowing or acting like fuckbuddies.
There's only one image that is full on fetishy domination and the rest of the art made after the movie is just wholesome lovemaking or pre-sex awkwardness
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>>155508056
>Edited so that "Going beyond I love you" part is on Sadie Sink's card
kek
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>>155509344
https://youtu.be/zRcPdOOnX9E this one has karaoke to make it even more obvious lmao

Zendaya got moved to before Ruffalo too
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Scenarios
>Peter and Jean never interact again. They rarely appear in the same movie and Peter's interactions are used on characters who need him to be popular like Ms Marvel
>Peter and Jean occasionally stand next to each other for fan service
,>Peter and Jean interact but under a different writer who changes their dynamic
>Peter and Jean are good friends but we really get to see it due to Marvel and Sony not agreeing to use him
>No slice of life media ever due to the above point
>They interact but 20 years from now as nostalgia points for BND
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>>155509593
As long as they interact and be good friends it's fine with me
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>>155504147
>I let him hit because that's what a good friend does
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>>155508437
probably
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Theory: it wasn't the Spider Sense. Jeans possession power only works on humans because she has a human brain. If she were to jump into the body of a Spider she would run the risk of being permanently trapped with the mental faculties of a Spider like in Animorphs, so her powers simply didn't extend that far until she evolved.
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Something in me dies every time I see one of my childhood heroes get "reinterpreted" into selfish cowards, simps, or monsters.
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>>155510296
Spiderman is the guy that symbolizes how great power leads to great responsibilities.
And yet he's here declaring Jean Grey doesn't have the responsibility to use her power morally.

Jean Grey is entitled, since she's a cute girl, to endless sympathy. But she is not punished for her many crimes.

I think it literally didn't even occur to them that she should be. Jean is, as far as writers were concerned, responsible to nobody but her own whims. If she's angry because some random gang of villains took her sister? She's free to take her anger out on ANYONE - and Spiderman will actively die for her right to do so.

Are these people really Superheroes? Why not just take the "hero" out already?
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>>155510296
Does anyone else feel like MCU Jean is just a straight interpretation of Jeans comic behavior?
Like sure, most of the times she isn't consciously malicious in the comic, she just has a warped sense of morality and doesn't even comprehend why her habit of mental manipulation is bad, and MCU Jean on the other hand is consciously cruel. Nonetheless the outcome is the same. Comic Jean has done worse things to people
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>>155510357
That's my point. These people are bastards. Why are we even calling them Superheroes?

Just because their enemies are "worse"? Hell, those enemies are mostly just strawmen made for virtue signalling about whoever the progressives hate any given week.

Movie Jean is just...mask off. Unlike comics Jean, she's not even pretending to be this nice, wholesome heroine. She's not appreciably worse, just in an era where there's no need to pretend you're not writing evil superhumans that pretend to be heroes.
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>>155510392
How many times have X-Men abandoned, abused, or cheated on their spouses and partners? How many times have they welcomed the worst scum of the earth with open arms because Mutant solidarity? How many times have they abused children?

Why is Spider-Man being turned into a scumbag just to uphold them? He's far from pure, but he has limits.
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>>155510401
Based anti muties. People say the X-Men are complex characters with complex moralities but they are not good people.

There is also no such thing as a moral telepath in Marvel, they have no limits and see possessing someone as nothing to think about
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jean grey anti-mutantplay
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>>155510569
They're not complex characters at all. They're dysfunctional psychos that only vaguely resemble "heroes" because their enemies are leftist webcomic strawmen.

I can't even remember the last time the X-Men felt like they were heroes in a vacuum, without an army of giant robots to emotionally blackmail you with Holocaust aesthetics.

Have they ever, like, helped normal people since Claremont took over? Has Cyclops ever led his team to take out some cartel members of gangsters to keep the streets safe for people?

Are we really just supposed to like them because they're the SJW Nerd version of Turner Diaries?
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>Insane surge of AI art depicting peterjean
>fans don't care who is the character unless it's white redhead girl

are all spiderphoenix fans just a fucking jeets?
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>>155510789
It’s frustrating trying to find any artwork of them that isn’t AI-generated
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>>155510296
Next X-Men movie going to have them be dysfunctional as the Suicide Squad or Doom Patrol. Trust.
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Comic/Cartoon Jean
>nice girl
>her powers are dangerous
>because of her powers, she may do bad things to people who don't deserve it because she has no comprehension of how bad those things are
>she may retaliate too hard because it takes very little effort for her to do bad things
>professor x trained her to be respectful and decent, she could have gone a very dark path without meeting him as a kid
>if it wasn't for the phoenix force she would be the golden example of a good mutant
>May scold Scott for attempting any destructive route to get the job done, as that is not who he is.

MCU Jean
>One of the only known examples of a Jean Grey making it to her late teens without meeting the professor
>When she hurts psople she is making it clear that she knows its bad
>appears to have a Mutant vs Human mindset that includes Spider-man as a "mutant"
>abhors Spider-man's attempt to assimilate into human life. Believes he is lying to himself
>She is framed as intentionally violent and manipulative instead of simply being misguided
>If it wasn't for Peter Parker she would singlehandedly justify the sentinel program as a public safety measure
>Happily causes as much destruction as possible to achieve her goals
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>>155510625
People kind of like the idea of the X Men rather than who they are. The versions of them you see in the cartoons. The cleaned up versions who aren't all fucking each other and killing people
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>>155510871
This is why I don't like people saying MCU Jean is comic Jean in movie form. Saw many in X and Threads.

Yes, she did bad things in comics/animation but she either mostly does it for the greater good or someone does bad to her.

MCU Jean is a literal psycho who possesses people for fun with her sister before Damage Control arrested her sister. She is evil and Peter was the only one who cracked her shell and made her change for the better.

This shows how dangerous Jean is and how justified Charles is putting blocks on her massive power
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>>155510960
Comic Jean doing bad things usually falls into 3 categories
>She's gone insane again
>She was provoked
>She misunderstands the morality around her powers
She never does these things to people out of clear spite like in the MCU. Even the worst things comic Jean does are usually framed on a way like a dog biting someone. She is not vicious so much as she's carrying a loaded gun and surrounded by targets
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>>155510960
Reboot Fox Jean was doing some evil shit that can't really be explained away with the Phoenix by the end of her run
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>>155510860
The Doom Patrol were the original X-Men...and because they were DC characters, were heroes through and through even though they were screwed up due to horrible lives.

The first batch literally all died to protect a random village explicitly to show this wasn't about becoming popular anymore, they were genuinely willing to sacrifice themselves for the lowest, least "important" people imaginable.

That's why the X-Men don't deserve to be in the same sentence as Doom Patrol. They're a race militia, not a Superhero team.
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Another comparison


Comic/Cartoon Jean
>Powers extremely dangerous from the beginning
>Always had access to telekinesis and telepathy at the same time
>Usually starts out with very weak telepathy that eventually becomes extremely powerful
>Usually taught morality long before unlocking the full scope of her power
>Is worried about alarming people
MCU Jean
>Powers very basic at the beginning
>Only had access to mind jumping until recently, but was violent and creative enough to cause mass destruction with only this
>Had no remorse of any kind until the end of the film. Even makes fun of the Punisher's and the Hulk's power.
>Wants to scare people who get in her way, seems to revel in being feared
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My own position is that even comic jean only looks relatively good compared to the utter circus that is the X-Men.

MCU Jean is just straight up a villain.
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>>155510944
The X-Men are a brilliant premise (a team of people with unique powers they're born with), with terrible writers that eventually just decided to go all in on Social Justice Warrior grimdark nonsense during the Claremont Era.

This made them turn into household names. So they just kept doing that.

...however, it's simply not enough to be grimdark anymore. Everyone is grimdark these days. So the X-Men kinda need actual good writing, except the only reason they went grimdark at all is because they have bad writers.
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Mutants as a world building element to justify random civilians with powers >>>>>>>>> The X Men as a group
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It's all so pointless. They can still go through dark arcs without constantly cheating on or abusing each other.

Why are they always cheating on and abusing each other?
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Sorry, not horny enough to look past the sociopathy. Spider Simp and the psycho psychic don't deserve happiness.
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>>155511231
They are both fcked up in the head and deserve each other
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>>155511247
Not if it makes them happy.
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>>155445550
that's because it's the flavor of the month
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>>155511262
This ship has lasted way longer than a month
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>>155511231
you lack taste anon
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>>155511151
Because it sells.
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>>155445604
It worries me that it appeals to my sister because they are obviously sibling-coded.

My wife finds it cute. I don't. I think it's wrong.
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>>155511298
That's why I don't eat slop.

Sorry, I only want Superheroes that are real heroes.
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>>155511324
DC is better for you

>>155511309
I don't ship them, i ship the actor and actress. In another life, they would have been together
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>>155511262
It's already more than a month, and this ship has made cykefags/jott/jean x logan/ petermj/zendayatroons seethe hard
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>>155511324
Sure thing, Snyderfag
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>>155511353
Because its the best ship, thats what.
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>>155511197
damn the artist gave peter huge tits
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>>155511347
The Absolute storyline really illustrates the difference. Even when they're deliberately trying to make everything as dark and nihilistic as Marvel...the heroes still end up being noble paragons.
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>>155511262
yeah right
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you know what time it is, boys
>>155511382
>>155511382
>>155511382
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>>155511386
about time!
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>>155511391
kek this still reached bump limit



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