BEC NOIR EDITION QOTT: Best villain in Homestuck, which do you think it is. (Everyone have a moment of silence in respect of the anon who made pure art in a bathroom.)Last Dream Bubble: >>155480866Homestuck Resources:https://homestuck.net/resources/booru/The best way to read homestuck:https://uhca.carrd.coWHITEBOARD!https://r7.whiteboardfox.com/77235896-7629-8057
SOMEONE. ANYONE. PLEASE MAKE AN HSG VIDEO ABOUT THIS HISTORIC MOMENT, I DONT WANNA DO IT BECAUSE IM LAZY BUT I FUCKING WILL IF NO ONE STEPS UP. THIS IS A CRY FOR HELP.
>>155489762*a hsg
ARTISTS. reply to this with your art!(POOP DOESNT COUNT)
>>155489762last thread in a nutshellhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4B7QIooACU
>>155489800>(POOP DOESNT COUNT)kek, heres a repost of this cuz i dont get tired of looking at it
>>155489800DaveJade :D
>>155489821is humiliating yourself like that really worth it
>both images are too large to be posted on hereIt's ovver
>>155489835beautiful pic
>>155489735>/ - HThat's better
>>155489800drew this lyre for my fantroll's hive im working on
Say something nice about Jade's kid
>>155489855all the efffort in the magma was 90% this, 5% cocks and 5% shitpost
>>155489800this
>>155489864My own troll has lyre horns :) So cool art dude
>>155489800New self insert
>>155489934whoever kept dave in hero mode is a genius
>>155489990that was me... glad you think so, i was suffering thru it
>>155489762
>>155489996Excellent. Now I demand you specifically to make more DBZ edits of HS, because I always find them funny.
>>155490057where is the kanaya version
>>155489800>(POOP DOESNT COUNT)
>>155489735>QOTTDoc Scratch. Caliborn is a more entertaining character but his villainy is too retarded to be satisfyingly villainous.Jack was good until he got completely robbed of his aura post-scratch
>>155484410While I understand where you're coming from, making a bunch of assets in advance really helps with this, and doing rooms in the mspfa style isnt that hard either when you use a guide. I do my adventure on my own as well and don't consider myself a prodigious artist, but I draw shit none the less.
>>155489735Homerstuck is highly satanic because it has DEMONS and HOMERSEXUALS
>>155490078Here, damn
the streets really saying this god tier outfit sucks
>>155490193aradia
i wonder what was going through their mind when they made it
this general really has a disproportionate amount of underage posters on it damn
>>155490498you think a cute girl made it?
>>155489800Oh boy, I sure love Robin, I hope she makes it out of the maze just fine.Read Mythraic Here: https://mspfa.com/?s=71619&p=1
>>155490559obviously
>>155490551does it? how can (You) tell? Do manchildren and Actual Children really act that differently from each other?
>>155490498"this shit smells terrible">>155490559im a dude. girls dont poop, everyone knows this
>>155490072ill try! i needed help for that dave and im kinda going thru a thing this weeks but i shall do more dbz stuff, its too fun not to
>>155490498all this because of a fucking magma
>>155490551forks found in kitchen
The thin6 is that there's so many cute 6irls in Homestuck* that it's hard not to 8e a HORRI8LE SLUT and feel affection for multiple of them.let me calculate. Just female characters since I'm not 6ay:There's 4 human 6irls. Plus their alternate universe selves which 8umps our Waifu Count to 8 (lucky num8er am i ri6ht)Now we 6o onto the troll 6irls. 6 of them across 2 universes, so that's 12. Plus their alternate universe forms which 8umps our Waifu Count to 32 (or 28 if you don't count 8eforan Dancestors, which I do). Now for the Cheru8s, I'll count Cali8orn and Alt Callie as seperate, which 8umps it up 8y 2 (34 so far)Now for "du8iously canon" media:To my (comparatively limited) readin6s of 8eyond Canon, there's:4 kids so far, two of which are female, which 8umps our count to 36. Then you add misc 8ack6round characters like Ms. Paint or fuckin... John's left testicle and shit, and that's a 8unch of fuckin6 characters. OH and I almost for6ot Hiveswap, which was ori6inal focus in the first place6od there's so many i'm not even 6onna 6o over them. It's ridiculous.I pretty much for6ot where I was 6oin6 for>>155490769yuh 8ut Homestuck is Adult Media which talks a8out serious stuff like aliens and sexy space empresses (and heiresses), and video6ames. So that metaphor doesn't really apply here
>>155490636I don't know It's just like so many posts read the same way I'd write my own 4chan posts in 2017 when I was like 13 It's scary to think It's adults posting such things...
>>155490551you can say this about any thread about a show/comic/game though. shit I bet most anons here who aren't underagers probably started using this site as teensstarting using it when i was 12 years old and now i'm 23>yuh 8ut Homestuck is Adult Media which talks a8out serious stuff like aliens and sexy space empresses (and heiresses), and video6ames.quirkanon that's literally the type of shit kids are into, not to mention it being a comic that had protags who were 12-13 year olds in the beginning
>>155490551The groomcord is well aware
>>155490806>so many posts read the same way I'd write my own 4chan posts in 2017 when I was like 13like how thou6h? I've never used 4channel that youn6, so I wouldn't have a frame of reference. I suppose I always assumed we were all a 8unch of 6rown men postin6 here, with no f*ids or ch*ldren, 8ut I 6uess anythin6 can happen>>155490808>that's literally the type of shit kids are intoyeah I was mostly 8ein6 facetious. It's to 8e expected that the Comics and Cartoon 8oard would have at least a few youn6uns. Since the topic of this very 8oard is traditionally childish in nature.
>>155482272Uh, bros?
>>155490854I feel compelled to analyze your brain and touch you a little now.
>>155489762What happened? I was sleeping and also can't read.
>>155490885>>155488447
>>155490885anon got mad that discord anons were in a magma with other great artists like tri. they said that they would do a poop drawing of john in the mirror to show whos really talented. many anons doubted them, until two days later(today) the drawing was made. its in the last thread
>>155482272no fuckin6 way
>>155490925>many anons doubted themmore like egged him on
>>155490902>>155490925Thanks for the info. I'm not certain if my life has been improved by learning this, but I did ask so I can't be mad.
>>155490563I'm getting mixed signals on her class now
>>155490925>great artists like tri
>>155490925>great artistsoxymoron. artists are inherently inferior to us normal people
>>155490979>im normalsir this is /hsg/
>>155490979thats not true
Then there's the writers
>>155490997i've surpassed my limits, anon. i've ascended to the point where i can read homestuck and have normalcy >>155491007>t. seethin' drawoidsure
>>155491027Bullshit. Prove it. Prove you have a gf mr normal
>>155491065hey hey hey let's not haste too much man. datin' is, like, patriarchal and shit. I would never oppress a women like that man
>>155491088It's not straight if you say no hetero first
>>155491016what about if you are an artist *and* a writer, what if you make fanfics with drawings.
>>155491097it's not straight if you take your socks off
I wish limeblooded trolls got revived in Homestuck 2 it should be theoretically possible through Karkat at least since his blood type holds the lime gene I assume?
Lord Verity
>>155491016hehehehe i want to duck oxnard and make him pregnant :3
>duckOmg I'm quacking Quackin my Goose on Oxnard nook oooooough
>>155491118master of humanity
>>155491117Lime pride world wide
It's important for /hsg/ to know that I just came buckets to turning Cronus into my needy sub bitch
>>155491107Well, it depends on your specialty. You can't do the two of them well, it's simply not somethin that happens. If you're decent at art and shit at writin then your n artist if ur art sux n ur writes r zased thn u r n rtst
>>155491143This is how we make brolee real
>>155491139I said, Lord! Verity!
>>155491119>>155491147lotta queers on here huh
>>155491151hmmmmmm well i have only fully intigrated drawing into my johnjade fics so i guess we will never know. but fair enough.
>>155491163nu-/hsg/ has so many fags in it that it's kinda crazy
>>155491147Based
>>155491147based desu
oh yeah I drew this too.
Am I the only straight man here?
>>155491172>>155491163>tourists alert
>>155491163The last poll had us at roughly 50/50 chicks and dudes actuallyPlus the mystery enbie .
>>155491186Yes, all the straight women in here are yours to have sex with, don't fuck it up.
>>155491147someday i will find my cronus to bounce on me crazy style too.
>>155491186My brother in the straight resistance
>>155491186straightfags think that they are a minority kek
>>155491200Anon... I'm a serial tumbler
>>155491186yes
>>155491186you're not alone anon. i love (the idea of) impre6n8in6 women>>155491199come on you don't seriously 8elieve ni66a weren't sincerely trollin6 for real. why would women 8e postin6 here of all places
>>155491016I just want you to know that I notice and enjoy your sound posts.
>>155491200>straight women in here
>>155491199not roughtly. more males than females.
>>155491194i can point out that it's crazy when comparing to how these threads were before the pilot w/o being called a tourist, anon. like we have anons ITT who openly talk about loving trans john and roxy, concepts that got mocked more often than not when post-canon stuff starting coming out
is anyone else here an actual cuck like only capable of masturbating to homestuck characters if they imagine an anon fucking them in front of youno?ok
Don't forget the three month period of someone worshiping Jade's giant glowing green doggy dong
>>155491257come on 8ro. 6et less humiliatin6 fetishes>>155491267that was me 8tw
>>155491254>like we have anons ITT who openly talk about loving trans john and roxy, concepts that got mocked more often than not when post-canon stuff starting coming outPeople mature and evolve as the times change that's just how It's supposed to be.
I'm just here because I missed a certain poster.I never thought I'd see someone draw John with their shit.
>>155491254anon. these people already existed..the moment meat roxy came out anons made a pubic hair edit of it. this isnt anything special
>>155491254most people still dislike the transing decisions even if it doesn't make them seethe every thread anymore
>>155491254It was cool to hate trans people back then now It's just reddit
>>155490270what do you think her powers will be?
>>155491280>certain posterwhich poster? hypnofag
>>155491293>her
>>155491293Seer of life? She's going to spend the entire time mocking Swiss's size
>>155491301nta but remember inflationfag?*blows air on a extremelly old book, dust frying everywhere*
>>155491293The ability to see the potential futures of others. Not the actual futures, but their future at their most ideal. And how to get there. Or maybe just most powerful futures.
>>155491200nuh uh buster! you have to fit into one of the archetypes *i* like!
>>155491310>she's
>>155491301That's probably them. They used to post with Aranea, I think.Because she's a bitch-ass motherfucker.I don't think they're here anymore though. Or maybe they're at the /aco/ thread instead. IDFK.
>>155491326that has nothin6 to do with life???
>>155491181SEXO
>>155491254Trans roxy and john are dog shit though
>>155491301>>155491310HER PRONOUNS ARE HE/HIM! wait a minute
>>155491343If you have bad taste!
>>155491326that's just being a seer of light
>>155491343You're a faggot if you don't want to suck June's cock and fuck Roxy's man cunt
>>155491367trans roxy LOOKS hot but IS badly written slop
>>155491341He is so sexy. I looove him so much.
>>155491367>If you have refined taste!ftfy>>155491379unironically it's homosexual to sexually interact with either. it's a lose-lose for us straightKINGS
>>155491343roxy could have been the cutest trans girl but moid likers ruin everything
>>155491390more like straightcucks. if we're being honest
>>155491390In those dark hours we were tempted to turn to horseshoe theoryRESIST
all women should stay womenall men should turn into womeneveryone should be a woman (save for me), that way I can 8e The Strai6htman>>155491412post of du8ious accuracy
>>155491367>>155491379The trans headcanon and viewpoint of them is a complete failure of reading comprehension and shows that most can't understand basic characters
>>155491406this is unironicaly how some people on twitter think, they could be ultra woke but it destroys the mtf roxy headcanon so they hate it
>>155491438
>>155491438do you have a reason you are the gender you are? no! its because you feel like it
>>155491276>>155491281>>155491290>>155491291>>155491343at the end of the day i'm just pointing out the shit i notice as a newfag lurking /hst/ during the ending years of the comic up til the pilot, i don't doubt that there were people who were fine with it (like some anons claim) but it's undeniable that something changedi agree though that i mostly just stay quiet about it because there's always going to be people who prefer john as a man and roxy as a woman, so it's stopped bothering me a long time ago
>>155491438bro
>>155491454Trans john was because some faggot found a toblerone eat a dick nigga. Trans roxy is out of fucking nowhere and doesn't work with her character because the view of her being trans is from fans inserting their life experiences into a character.
>>155491457people are as they are born, nothing more, nothing less. "gender", an abstract, made up concept is not a thing. If you're male, you can play dress up all you want, but you're still male. Same for female. Appearance, behavior, even mutilation. None of them change who a person is at their core; male, female, or genetic anomaly. No inbetweens.
>>155491488dont look above you
>>155491474other former writers have confirmed this was a lie by roach btw
>>155491474
>>155491463on one hand, i lowkey hate june, for ruining basically every piece of fanart and fan fiction released in the past hmmm 6 years basically. but on the other, i dont actually care because i think people can have fun and do whatever they want, i ship johnjade for fuck sake. THere *has* been a change, because people have cooled off, and the people who were alienated that bad from homestuck because of its finale and later its devolution down the rabbit hole of the epilouges and HS^2 left *forever* and never came back.Which leaves us with 3 groups. People who hate it but dont care enough to do anything about it on a thread. People who are indifferent to it, and people who like it.
>>155491507Roxy is a female and John is a male btw
It's not that deep
>>155491511Your source?
>>155491530true. nothing's as deep as my ass in your dick
i agree its really not that deep, idk why we are discussing transness on an HSG thread, i dont think anyone here gives a fuck, even the trans people.
>>155491522yes you are right. roxy is not meatroxy and john isnt june. you are correct
>>155491541Gay
>>155491507Roxy is male and June is female and I am JACKING OFF TO THIS PICTURE! thank you
>>155491541
>>155491531
and this is such a nothing topic. roxy is a woman on candy. john is a man on meat.
>>155491541i certainly hope you have enough for the whole class young man >:(
Everyone is so childish if Hussie says It's canon then It's canon and that's that
>>155491572>john is a man on meat.ppfffft
>>155491572it's almost like it's a stupid and arbitrary decision and bad character writing as a result
>>155491546Roxy Lalonde in possible forms is fundamentally, ontologically female. John Egbert, in all possible forms, is biologically male.
>>155491584>if hussie says im a nigger from africa and that i should go back to my country, which is africa then its true and thats that
>>155491584yes, but i would also argue that plenty of his story desicions in and out of canon are highly questionable. half of homestuck is questionable as a story, in terms of pure writing decisions and quality. So even if June is canon, i feel we are allowed and should be encouraged to interrogate that story decision under a critical lense as we do all homestuck story aspects. of course i am not promoting transphobia but yknow. hussie is kind of a bad writer sometimes.
>>155491588lets think. if roxy can be cis in one timeline, and trans on the other. the same could be for meat john.
>>155491584The majority of people who partake in "fandom" are completely demented in the head and don't understand what art is about, they just care about their scrimblo bimblos being toys they can play with and get mad if said toys evolve and change in a way they personally don't feel a personal relation to as the character's story progresses
>>155491609idgaf about that i think june sucks in general but the phrase "john is a man on meat" was funny to me
>>155491600This. Word of God is nothing.>>155491609There's no reason for either. It's a tacky gimmick tacked on for no reason. It serves no purpose. What do we learn about the characters by making them trans in post-canonical content? And not even in all timelines, but in one?
>>155491612you know you're allowed (and in fact should be) critical of the things you like, right?
>>155491612that is LITERALLY what is happening in this thread. word for word
>>155491609i think this anons pfft was in relation to john being a "man" *ON* meat cause like gay sex, meat = penis. You know how men love this sort of phallic assertion on any and all text innocuous or not. >>155491612Agreed, Many homestuck fans are entirely unwilling or unable to interrogate the text properly without inserting their biases into it harder than a jackhammer. I.E, unwilling to engage Eridan as a character and reduce him to either worthless chud incel or lamb to sacrifice to the femboy/trans alter to justify why they are "allowed" to like him.
Can I get some clown posting? Any kind of clown is acceptable.
>>155491608june isnt even on screen and you're saying this. like chill we dont whats going to happen
>>155491643>i think this anons pfft was in relation to john being a "man" *ON* meat cause like gay sex, meat = penis. You know how men love this sort of phallic assertion on any and all text innocuous or not.thank you anon, having to explain why it was funny is insane tho rofl
As I homestuck fan i can officially say that I FUCKING HATE (<3<) you retards so fucking much
>>155491666it's impressive how you say this every single time someone is critical of june
>>155491639Yes, but being critical does not mean actively pretending like reality isn't reality, current Roxy is male and current June is female and that's the reality of it, going "hehe Roxy is female only!" or "John will never be a woman hoo haa" is culture war bullshit and not actually proper criticizism of Hussie's writing, look at this and tell me It is "critical of Homestuck's writing" and not just a guy that started using 4chan 2 years ago and thinks It's like r/greentext >>155491592
>>155491679because theres nothing to be critical about. you know its going to happen but not how its going to happen
>>155491667one thing i will never understand is how much enjoyment boys will get turning any and all talking points into phallic objects or otherwise turning any innocuous statement into an enforcement to the worship *of* the phallus. Also, i needed an excuse to say phallus. (ehehehehe phallic phallus hehehehehe XD)
Give me a good reason on why john and roxy being trans making sense from homestuck itself nothing from beyond canon or any fucking authorial retroactive bullshit
>>155491694>current Roxy is male and current June is femalecandy roxy is female and 1 john is dead as hell and the other is still male kek
>>155491714Because sometimes people are just trans bro
>>155491714i want to cum inside tereziis that a good talking point?
>>155491722Yeah and some people are just retarded but when you're writing a story you usually have a reason why the character are the way they are whether it's in universe or authorial
i like june cus it 6ives me more 6irls to lust after. I don't like trans roxy thou6h since it 6ives me less 6irls to lust after. June postin6 starts now>>155491714there is known. >>155491722yeah, sure. 8ut what does this mean for these specific characters? And why so lon6 after the ori6inal series? What does this interpretation ADD?? It's like when the 6host8usters were female that one time. There was no reason for it other than virtue si6nallin6. It adds nothin6 whatsoever
>>155491714Roxy wants to be a man and June wants to be a woman, no more reason needed.It's way better for trans characters to just exist as their own than having entire storylines focused on why they are trans, It's just something normal.
>>155491569>cause it's disgustingwhat could it have been about?
>>155491714it is an alternative reading of their character viewed through a different lenses. It is interpreting the text into different conclusions. I have seen many people claim that john is a low empathy autistic. And as an autist it hits home just a little bit, because i *can* see it, even if was *never* the intention. Similarly, i don't see june egbert at all, but that does not remove its value as a reading, especially if someone could theoretically run with the concept and make something new. Now, homestuck beyond canon has failed to do so, so far, so we will have to wait and see.
>>155491694obviously some anon are just going to be transphobic, but a lot of people genuinely feel it lacks narrative import. that's why it always gets everyone seething when it's brought up
>>155491749>Roxy wants to be a man and June wants to be a womansince when nigga, this is shit without any explanation besides "i just wanna"at least make it good (and even then it'll still suck because out of all the characters in homestuck you pick the 2 that needed this the least)
>>155491714ill try to explain you roxy.roxy is deeply tied in the roles of feminity and being a mother, her guardian-self was a mother that did "stereotypical mom things" like being obsessed with cleaning the house. meat roxy shows that roxy CAN still like feminine things like a pink crop top. but roxy can still be a man. you dont need to leave things completely behind when changing genders. its just roxy but male.
>>155491752iirc that writer later said john was meant to be dating underage vriska in the original outline
I'll say it jade fucking rose and rose cheating on kanaya makes more sense than john or roxy being trans.
Reminder: last thread showed we have many Jade’s in this very thread. When will someone draw them kissing or running the thread
>>155491756>homestuck beyond canon has failed to do so, so far, so we will have to wait and see.THEY HAVENT DONE ANYTHING WITH IT. AT ALL. sit your ass down and wait a bit, i know it sucks to wait, i know.
>>155491749You can have a trans character thats just trans if you make a new character, if you're going to take established characters and decide they now have to be trans there has to be something to it in a narrative sense.
>>155491780That's just people mostly inserting their internal struggles with gender (mostly trans afabs and some transfems) and using roxy as a coping mechanism
>>155491789All of those make clear sense to me
>>155491793I drew 3 of the witches here! Which isn't *exactly* "jade" But i was one of the people who got jade on that so yeah :DTell you what folks. Anyone who got jade on their quiz if you have an oc ill add it to the witch drawing!
>>155491749that's like saying if a character randomly decided to shave their head and get a bunch of tattoos it should never be discussed in the story. that character is supposed to be making choices for a reason, to tell a story.i swear it's like you guys all forget you're reading a story where characters are meant to be vehicles for delivering a theme
>>155491738It's a very good talking point, maybe even the best, but it doesn't really have anything to do with what that anon was saying. Thanks for sharing, though.
>>155491789Unironically, it does. There's a clean line of logic:>Fusing with her male dog gave Jade a penis>Jade is lonely and wants children>Rose is willing to help her close friend out (and is horny), so allows herself to be impregnatedas opposed to:>Yeah so Roxy's trans because... she just is?and>What? Yeah of course John was supposed to be trans this entire time! We were hinting at it since the start.
>>155491809You love saying this shit but everything they've done so far is genuinely awful, continuing to give your trust to someone who kicked you on your dick many times will most likely only get you kicked on the dick again.
>>155491849>We were hinting at it since the start.i love when people bring this up because it never happened not even a little lmaoi think jades whole situation couldve been better handled tho (and giving her a normal dick was also there but ipgd was writing with one hand only)
>>155491867>everything they've done so far is genuinely awful,no?
>>155491781i get that 40 yo John dating teenager Vriska is distasteful but its not as bad as shit that was apparently planned or that did happen in the epilogues.
>>155491838I’ll respond to this after work then
It's like what Aranea said "Imagine that over the course of someone's life, they are truly capa8le of every conceiva8le action at any moment, and did indeed take each of those actions in different 8ranching realities. Doesn't a scenario like that deaden a person's agency just as much as one where their fate is decidedly etched in stone as a single path of unavoida8le decisions? Who exactly is that person who can and does take all conceiva8le actions, other than someone perfectly generic, who only appears to have unique predilections and motives when you examine the ar8itrary path they happen to occupy?"If there they just become trans for no reason, they're just becoming blank slate. You have to fit transness into their characterization, and I don't think that's just possible.
You guys are so negative all the time I forget this comic is awesome June is hot as fuuuuck
>>155491830>i explain the reasoning >anon ignores it and just says its le writerslisten to me. thinking that "the writters are projecting" is one of the biggest get-out-off-jail cards to having any argument. instead of actually using your brain, you're thinking in a scenario outside of the story presented to you.
>>155490551Unrelated but when it comes to current day 4chins in general, It’s not even underage posters from what I’ve seen. I’ve been on the current day shit boards for way too long to know that’s it’s either people purposely trolling for a reaction, or genuine adult autists who are genuinely being sincere with what they type. When it comes to /co/, it’s mainly the latter. Certain boards are very much underage heaven like /i/, but stuff like the /pol/ brainrot you see anywhere outside of /pol/ are actually from human beings who are some the biggest autists I have encountered on this site, the kind that makes you hope that they aren’t actually like this in the real world
>>155489800 my masterpiece
>>155491887its all fun and games until she's wet like a faucet and he's just blind as all hell
I too want to shill my shit, at least oncehttps://mspfa.com/?s=68131&p=1
>>155491881>making john a pedophile is way better than making him transcome on i hate june too but let's be reasonable
I still like this June
>>155491902that sleuth looks MALNOURISHED! give him some SLEUTH SNACKS to get him back in ACTION!
>>155491898I wasn't saying the writers are projecting I'm saying that the Homestuck fanbase has a lot of trans people in it and they tend to project themselves through the character and through that it affects Homestuck as well.
>>155491781>>155491881honestly that does sound like shitmostly because johnrezi is prob one of the better things from post-canon after how cute their dynamic was in act 6
TIMELINE WHERE TRANS ROXY GETS 500 PAGES OF EXPLAINING WHY HE DECIDED TO BE TRANS:>dude this fucking sucks I hate this troonshit why do they have to shove it on our faces TIMELINE WHERE TRANS ROXY DOES NOT GET THAT:>dude this was out of nowhere doesn't fit Roxy's character at all fuck this
>>155491914>pedophile>transWHATS THE DIFFERENCE!?
>>155491918i think this kinda sucks, give the fit to terezi thank u very much
>>155491935>>>/r/eddit
>>155491914No no wait no listen Im not saying John pedophile is better than June Im saying theres plenty of gross/disgusting shit already in the epilogues and implied in early HS^2, i just think its weird they draw the line there, if youre going to try to depict an awful reality go all the way, no?
>>155491935when did epstein stop playing fortnite to post here
>>155491931psst anon, maybe its because transitioning never fit roxy in the first place
>>155491926you're still breaking the wall, in order to argue instead of looking at the fucking story. this brings absolutely nothing to the discussion
>>155491912wait until we aren't talking about transgenders, please. it'd get more attention then>>155491914it's more ephebophilia, really.>>155491918Why would john even wear a suit in the first place? His whole thing is being immature and childish>>155491931what about the timeline where it's implied from the very start and not retconned in arbitrarily?
>>155491926sure, but characters are merely puppets and vehicles to explore what the story needs to explore. if the story is good, then the character is good, and if the character is good, the story is good. so you can say the writers or fanbase project onto the character, but if it produces something worth while, it doesn't *matter* does it?now, i wont make a value judgement on meat!roxy. i am indifferent to him. same with june, i am apathetic to her at best.
>>155491931>people want a character being trans being shown in a comic where it has so much foreshadowing whether active or retroactive and will be mad if something just sporadically happens
>>155491918>john in a leather miniskirt and knee high bootsthis is what people mean about inconsistent characterization by the way
>>155491914did they not make gamzee a pedo for no reason, it’s been a while since ive read the epilogues
>>155491962>characters are merely puppets and vehiclesyes. But you can't turn a Kermit into a fuckin Ms Piggy. Different puppets for different things. You don't take a puppet and try to make it fit a mold it never should've
>>155491970gamzee was already the character everyone was supposed to hate
>>155491930It was also implied during the post 8r8k argument that John was emotionally cheating on Roxy with Terezi, and its said that he doesnt know her age but shes probably a teenager still, so uh. Theres that.
>>155491951roxy's is entirely built on being feminine. the idea of being feminine. getting kids, being a mother. that focus on being feminine probably limits on what roxy can be, meat roxy is still feminine, but thats not holding them back anymore. thats my interpretation
>>155491962>if the story is good, then the character is good, and if the character is good, the story is good.worst conclusion of the century
>>155491990>emotionally cheating???? what the fuck does that even mean
>>155491914they should make june a pedophile and have onscreen /ss/
>>155491922
>>155492030bigger
>>155492022hmmmm. kind of based actually, maybe june isn't so bad after all
>>155492003might as well make kanaya a guy then since she's technically the mother to all new trolls or whatever the fuck makes the fandom tickle
>>155491962>>155491953Meat Roxy is nothing more than a costume change for roxy and I loathe it because of that and June is exactly like that as well. Their transness is nothing more than jingling keys in front of an lgbt person's eyes and I hate that it's praised and even celebrated when they deserve better.
>>155491985Why? he's the best and most important character of Homestuck.
>>155492030you have OVERFED your sleuth and now he is DEFENSELESS.WHATEVER will he do NOW?
>>155492011Im as confused as you are but I think it means confiding or depending emotionally more on someone that's not your partner
>>155492030who got him pregnant
>>155492041You have autism and seek patterns in everything instead of understanding every person is different
>>155492041one is a troll one is a human you make the guess
>>155492022yeah well that's a huge pr96lem actually. pr9traying a transgender w9man as a ped9phile is just 6ad representati9n 9f queer pers9ns
>>155491982but what if they did and what if it worked. at that point does it matter? what if over time ms piggy got phased out and her character traits were subsumed into kermit and basically became a fusion of the two for the future. Im saying that these things are pretty fluid and ultimately meaningless. concepts people get attached too and dont want to let go of. That is fine of course, I am rather attached to john as a boy, relating his story as a whole *to* boy/manhood, obviously June lacks appeal for someone like me. I am mostly just trying to dig as deep as we can to the conceptual level of this whole debate. Perhaps a sort of brain exercise. Who gets to decide what a character *Is* and *should be*. These are things homestuck *itself* asks.
>>155492065>>155492072no sorry hussie said that was always the plan
>>155492075okay but also consider: june giving harry a nursing handjob
>>155492003Roxy is more than her femininity though? She's a fucking gamer and good with tech and has a drinking problem and just fist fights monsters. She's also pretty sincere as a person.
>>155492078nta but I think you are too poisoned by metanarrative bullshit to understand that there are things that make a good story, and you can't call an abuse of subversion story telling.
>>155492096And that type of person can't be a trans man?
>>155492085shut the fuck up. motherfuckers love to do anything but engage with the story instead of looking at everything at a 4d "le authors" type angle
>>155491781what? I'm very curious would that would've looked like.
I don't want to sound like a "ermmm just say you hate black people and go" type of person but a lot of complaints about the transness of characters is just people disliking trans people IRL and wanting to find an excuse to say they dislike trans people in homestuck without just saying outright they hate them and think they will never be real women/men
>>155492103we are thinking of stories at a very abstract level, i agree. but this is less a "defense" of roxy, or whatever else. I am moreso just asking questions for the sake of understanding others, what they think, why they think it, ect, ect. I am doing this because storytelling interests me. Sure, you may think the questions I ask are metanarrative bullshit, but these are the kinds of question someone has to ask when making a story, especially a long running one (or contributing to a story you did not originally create). I think it is worth thinking about.
>>155492114>engage with the storyanon... nothing was explained logically besides "hussie said so" and "it just happened in the story"
>>155492109No I'm saying it doesn't make sense for Roxy to be trans from a narrative standpoint or reader's standpoint unless you're trans and you extrapolate your experiences with gender to hers. Even then at that point why isn't jake fucking trans when he's trying to be like Indiana jones and a hot action hero.
>>155492078I suppose that's fair. I'll start discussing in good faith then.Characters are concepts, abstractions, and devices to tell a narrative, yes. But the thing is that a story where things happen in an order that doesn't make sense, or can't appeal to someone's sense of logic (not realism, logic) is bad.If you establish a setting as fantastical and futuristic, someone pulling a raygun out of nowhere will be seen as fine; it's logical for a setting like that to have something like that happen. But when you try to have a more psychologically complex story, but also have times where characters merely decide to adopt new identities on a whim, it creates a logical dissonance that upsets readers, as you can see. It's all about logical consistency.>>155492096This, and she's really horny.
>>155492103that anon is just doing basic litcrit, it has nothing to do with the metanarrative. it sounds like you don't understand how to examine a story
>>155492141the most retarded post i ever seen all week
>>155492132I don't hate trans people I just don't like shit representation of trans people because I have a shitload of lgbt friends and family.
June just kinda sucks regardless because she is literally the biggest “Hype moment and Aura” of HSBC. People know it’s coming, making it’s eventually reveal underwhelming, and with the way they are teasing it like jingling keys in front of a baby, you know there isn’t going to be a gradual build up to give a reason as to why June exists or to explain the transition in a meaningful satisfying way, at best we are going to get a couple of pages of explanatory info and a hype [S] panel as the big reveal. I genuinely think they’re going to fumble it, half the people don’t even care for it anyways and those that do aren’t going to like how it’s treated. Screencap this because I WILL be right
>>155492140Okay, I'll entertain you then: If you shove ms piggy into a kermit mold, and over time ms piggy ceases being a character and is esentially replaced or subsumed into another character, you just failed to have a character remain consistent within their own narrative and replaced them/gave their characteristics to someone else for no real reason.
>>155492132you sound exactly like that type of person
If a character can make any and every choice at once without any logical reason or consistency backing that choice up, it's uninteresting. John could become a mime, and it would be just as foreshadowed, and make just as much sense.
>>155492061>>155492036
>>155492169this, i wouldnt have cared as much if they grabbed anyone from the new crew and made them trans in any waychanaging an already stablished character without the proper set up is just shit rep
>>155492144>No I'm saying it doesn't make sense for Roxy to be trans from a narrative standpointA lot of things simply are the case and you don't need to really explain it since It's not a big deal compared to the crazy shit that happens in the story, I see Roxy being a trans man as no more big of a deal than Dave being an iphone user, It's just something that is the case, you don't need a reason to be trans in real life either sometimes you just are and realize it later in life that you feel more comfortable as the opposite gender
>>155492211can i help him deliver the baby
>>155492169anon okay. i want you to think like this. meat roxy is an very recent thing, june doesnt even exist yet. i dont remenber if any of those characters even have pesterlogs. we're on a satirs and nymphs arc, i know it sucks hearing this but roxy and june are going to have their times to shine i know it. waiting is the only way
>>155492214exactly, no one here has a problem with delfi being trans
>>155492214oh there are characters from the new crew that are trans. you like that?
>>155492238Some do >>155491293 >>155491310
>>155492220>A lot of things simply are the case and you don't need to really explain it since It's not a big dealNTA, but yes, that is true. In real life. In a story you have to make things interesting, and if someone happens with no explanation it's more confusing than interesting. It doesn't make for a good story if characters change on a whim without reason. If it's important enough to appear in the story, it's important enough to be explained.
>>155492226>roxy and june are going to have their times to shine i know itthis is like building ontop of nothing and expecting the building to be just as good as the one with a proper baseyou're just putting hype moments and aura there
>>155492147on this we can agree. a problem i have with roxy, is they do not spend much time dwelling on it, i do not need a 100 thousand word dissertation on his "trans journey", however, i would like to at least hear it from him, or hell, *anybody* about any details that led up to and what happened during that process. Do you think, that with enough effort, and decent writing of course, that you could make trans roxy work. If your answer is no, that is a completely valid opinion to have, but it is one i think is worth asking. >>155492180hmm hmm, much to think about, many characters have more or less gone through a similar evolution as to the one i described in less hyperbolic fashion. Characters turning into different characters overtime has been a thing in most long form media for as long as storytelling has existed. I am not going to say it "doesnt matter" even if that is my opinion, because i feel that would be too much of a definitive statement in this debate. And plus im running out of points to continue this whole thing. Thank you for your willingness to engage with a conversation and I will leave it here.
>>155492220>A lot of things simply are the case and you don't need to really explain it since It's not a big deal compared to the crazy shit that happens in the storythis is such a disingenuous way to view storytelling and ultimately leads to bad, bloated, useless stories (see: the end of homestuck).
>>155492220Again, you're taking an already established character and changing their identity and characterization, it needs to be relevant in the story, a change can't happen just because in a plot
>>155492178on June's case there will probably be a backstory. i keep thinking on how harry feels about all of this
>>155492243Nta but yeah there's no problem with that because it's not a superfluous change that isn't most likely being made to placate people or be jingling keys
>>155492055
>>155492243yeah i dont give a shit if delfi is trans, i dig it because its being set up as a conflict with his friends and their species as a wholekeyword set up
>>155491918Thus is the thing for me: June literally could have just been a new character, we have a series of characters fusing and changing and June could have just as easily been an off shoot ecto John related to either Joey/Alpha Jane or just a John clone made by Dirk. There’s never a real reason for it to be a transition thing when clones and alt timelines exist ontop of sprite fusions making what equates to whole new people.I don’t even dislike June as a concept it just always feels reductive that John has to go so June can exist and any further John stuff is entirely over taken. The design is actually good which only sours it a bit more for me.Hell man you could have made June John’s biological mom rather than ecto like how most of them are related. If Grandpa Harley gets to have a whole family on the side meaning Jade has bonus relatives, how come John can have some bonus family?
>>155492261>Do you think, that with enough effort, and decent writing of course, that you could make trans roxy workPersonally, no. But I do think it's possible. If they just hinted at it in the beginning, and did it in the original series, no one would've had this much of a problem with it.
>>155490198>>155490563You’re not wrong anon. I spoke to the main writer about this, and He’s open to adjusting the style, especially if it makes certain aspects of the production easier. Which resources would you recommend, any tricks you’ve learned from your work. >>155490953As is, we haven’t fully revealed what her class is. The girl wonder suit is more of a tongue-in-cheek reference than an explicit clue. Though if you manage to guess correctly, I will freely dispense a no-prize as payment.
>>155492226>meat roxy is an very recent thingMeat Roxy is not a recent thing, Meat Roxy was established as non binary a reaaaally long time ago in HS^2, and was arguably telegraphed in the epilogues, changing her/them/him to trans masculine just because is not a great look on the writers part.
>>155492263Do you want a trillion pages explaining every facet of every character's innerworkings? or can you just interpret context clues yourself and think "oh yeah I can see why It's like that"
>>155492273your SLEUTH flew TOO CLOSE TO THE SUNhe has DOOMED a random INTERNET FORUM into talking about HEADCANONS
I do not care for the trooncourse.
>this is the discourse we get after hsbc updatei wouldn’t link the new updates in the op either desu
>>155492307Well I do. long live the transcussion
>>155492261>evolutionThis is the keyword you're looking for. There has to be some development. Things can't happen just because.
>>155492312Now this I wouldn't have a problem with because it means two pussies and four breasts
>>155492312This is the true conclusion of all these arguments and the true message behind Homestuck, you got it.
>>155492221pretty shit but whatever
>>155492289what? what you talking about? june isnt taking john's spot. they can both exist at the same time
>>155492300i don't want things introduced into the story that don't have narrative relevance. this has been explained to you like 6 times over by now and you still don't get it
>>155492323>Things can't happen just because.i think this is what half the thread isnt getting loldelfi has setup as to why he is trans and what it entailsjune doesnt have anything
>>155492320I prefer calling it trials and troonbulations
>>155492339NTA, but there's only one John alive. If he transitions to June, then there's one less John (equalling zero Johns), and one more June.
>>155492298so it is recent. they looked like, omega faggy before, now they have swag
>>155492326
>>155492349objection...?
>>155492336let's name him june, in honor of this thread
>>155492313nigga the bc update was about dirk and rose. it had nothing to do with this
>>155492349what about transversation?
>>155492360Meat Roxy looks like an even bigger faggot now, I like the new team art style, but they have this compulsion to turn every character into a shot from a fashion magazine that I don't really understand, also it's weird that Roxy now identifies as male and wears the least masculine clothes i've ever seen. They do look cool though.
>>155492296something rather interesting is that Roxy has a non alliterative username and Dirk does. The pattern set up by the beta kids was Boys = non alliterative and Girls = Alliterative. Hussie *clearly* wanted to have that *mean* something. Hussie *clearly* wanted Roxy's relationship to femininity be troubled, The alpha kids were meant to take the gaurdians and give them, or splinters of them, a chance to be in the spotlight and to examine both old and new versions of the same character under a much more serious lense. It goes to figure then that Mom Lalondes almost infantile and childish notion of femininity and motherhood, played mostly as a bit in the original context of act 1-3 homestuck, would be inspected under a new lense, and as homestuck was already "woke" by then, it would figure that Hussie had *something* planned on that. Trans or whatever else. Just as Rose *also* had a troubled history with femininity and ended up being a "lesbian"
>>155492344I don't think you understand that a character being trans is the same as a character revealing out of nowhere that their favorite color is blue, It's just extra flavor and you COULD make a huge point about how their favorite color is blue because they were adopted by blue people as a kid through flashbacks OR you could just choose it because you think it fits the character seeing their previous behavior and that's that
>>155492360Roxy just looks like a giant faggot and not even the cool kind like prince and freddie mercury
>>155492356im about to get really mad. you think john is going to stay dead in terezi's pocket forever.
>>155492400He would look like them if he had a mustache
>>155492400its like grabbing frank n furter's swag and just.... fumbling it
>>155492366
>>155492390sigh*roxy doesnt need to let go of liking feminine things llike crop tops or pink to transition.
>>155492393I always thought that was a mention to how both alpha and beta kids are a product of different characteristics of the other.John used to be ghostlyTrickster, Jake is golgothasTerror, John's grandma got cremated, Jake had to burn his grandma in a campfire, etc.The same can be said for personality traits, Dirk is serious and talkative like Rose while having a similar sense of irony that Dave does, as well as Roxy taking from both Rose and Dave.
>>155492398i'm sorry but being trans and having a favorite color are not the same thing. even more so when the person is actively transitioning, not introduced as a trans person
>>155492427Ngl what's the point of being a trans man if you're gonna dress like a bitch that's like saying you're muslim and you still eat bacon
>>155492393Yeah, I do remember seeing that. The thing is: neither Dirk or Roxy have any themes really of transness, which leads me to believe that were intended to be already trans in the first place, which I think would've fit better, rather than showing either of them changing their identity on a whim, it would show that their identity was already one way the entire time. Which still would be unsatisfactory, and could be handled better, but it would've been a better type of retcon.
>>155490173The One Piece is real.
>>155492427No I find it weird because I feel like it plays onto the hyper-sexualization stereotype about trans people, and that it's weird that character can only be gender non conforming when they're hot or good looking.
>>155492424ok put him in a little top hat and give him a kiss for me
>>155492441Because some cis men are glitter pink faggots so trans men can be glitter pink faggots too
>>155492441we're getting into masc vs fem vs trans conversations and i seriously dont have it in me to explain it to you
well this fucking sucked
>>155492437Fair then this is a division of personal views so there's no point in discussing it, may Roxy and June get more focus on their reason for being trans it would make both of us happy
>>155492471Trans men don't have to overcompensate if they pass and I think it's beautiful because I've noticed a shitload of transmascs in my community.
>>155492441>>155492464wouldn't it be interesting though if Roxy detransitioned because she realized she needed to love and accept herself for who she is? Like, we see two versions of herself, at minimum, who seem at least fine with being a woman, so maybe she's having an identity crisis? Would be compelling to me.
>>155492454just saying shit
I hope every single one of you dies a slow painful death
i don't care that meat roxy is dressing like a slut i just think the outfit is ugly and deeply tumblr looking. like who designed that seriously
>>155492432the thing is, the sense of Irony and machismo both dave and dirk strive for are mostly artificial constructs. both imposed by (mostly) outside forces. If dave and dirk were more free from their self imposed restraints, dave would act even more like roxy, and dirk would act more like rose. However the inverse is true. Roxy and Rose also have self imposed limitations/ hangups that act as major barriers to acting more naturally. I do believe Rose has a far more developed taste for the irony, as her genuine interest in the macabre would suggest, likewise, Roxy is more of a genuine dude bro party man than Dave is (even if she remains a woman). Which in totality suggests even without the themes of "transness" present, it is clear that there are themes of how the strilondes are basically all mixed up on the inside.
>>155492515actual goonslop
can you guys post eridan real quick
>>155492513If It's treated respectfully towards trans people and the message isn't "lol trans people are stupid and just a phase" and instead "you can try being trans and if that doesn't work out for you there's no shame in that" that's completely fine with me
>>155492513
>>155492514Okay man, whatever
>>155492532is this sufficient?
>>155492513This could be interesting
>>155492544yea
>>155492524Fair, but I was referring more to the chumhandle thing. With dirk being TT and roxy being TG, I don't think thats some 4d chess play on chromosomes.
>>155492532
so, yall want more dialogue and development for both these characters right? is that understood
>>155492454Unironically, no one wants to look at ugly weird niggas, so they've gotta be pretty. Especially minorities. Unpleasant minorities are the worst type of representation because they're antithetical to a group being accepted>>155492533Yeah that's what I'm talking about. >>155492534Like it doesn't have to be a message of "trans folks don't exist", but it could be a journey of self-discovery and finding out what it means to be oneself, and that superficial changes to one's identity doesn't make you happy. Y'know?>>155492547It could be! And I think it'd even be more compelling and have a more logical thing
>>155492533>you can try being trans and if that doesn't work out for you there's no shame in thatI doubt they'd do that, theres an unspoken hostility towards detransitioners in most spaces for some reason. It could be an interesting line though.
>>155492562i agree it isnt, the chromosome thing was just a convenient coincidence, but i just think that the coincidental aspect of it was turned into something more later on, as most aspects of early homestuck were turned into and i find it interesting to discuss.
>>155492587detransitioners use being detrans as a way to talk shit about the community they were in
>>155492587not saying that the hostility is in aby means justified but in fairness most ftmtf detransitioners are like the nastiest bitches you know
>>155492571i want development that makes sense for the characters already established and isn't some arbitrary decision for idpol brownie points
>>155492571No, nigga I just wanna argue and piss everyone off. Yea of fucking course I want the characters to have development and have good dialogue
>>155492587It's because a lot of detransitioners become grifters but It's again a "everyone getting blamed for the actions of a few stupid people" thing
>went from some chad literally shit posting in the last thread to now the shittiest of posts in this thread /hsg/ has fallen…
most of this could have been solved if the characters go more dialogue>>155492609>"its the writers" excuse for the 236th time instead of engaging with the story
>>155492633no offense i fear you may be retarded
ok i think the transcussion (im stealing this portmanteau i hope you know that anon) has gone on far enough, we are, and have been, repeating ourselves, I think it would be far more productive to pivot. Any ideas guys?
>>155492571Yes, and it can be done without slowing the pace of the story, it doesn't even have to be massive amounts of dialogue, but building towards it little by little until the reveal would be nice. I don't trust the writers to do this in a way that's even remotely seamless tho, but as long as we get it it would be what I asked for.
>>155492644i dont think that ipdg even works on bc, like what the hell are you talking about
I am sorry to say that no matter how bad the writing is I like man Roxy because It's soooo hot
>>155492531
>>155492660Vriska owes me sex
6oddd i'm so fuckin6 hun6ry. i could 6o for some troll pussy rn>>155492660may8e we should talk a8out the trolls? why do they have different 8lood colors? was that ever explained? what evolutionary purpose would that serve? Were trolls made 8y the horrorterrors?
>>155492563My Prince...>>155492583You must be executed post-haste.
>>155492664>ipdg
Okay if youre done slap fighting Id like to practice my mspfa style a bit more so some request would be appreciated
>>155492604Only the ones you hear about. This is classic survivorship bias. Next you’ll tell me ex catholics are all grifters who shit on the community they were a part of.Said eridan
>>155492690Aranea... 8ut she's 6ettin6 married
>>155492458
>bratty transphobic femboy groyper eridan x ftm incel toxic masculinity as a coping mechanism cronus...
>>155492662you have to put trust in the new writers, its the only feasible way. and even if they do it the way you like it, anons will still find a way to argue otherwise. its exhausting and impossible for everyone to agree with something
>>155492690God-tier John brandishing the ZILLYHAMMER.
>>155492253I don't have an issue with him I misspoke since I don't read bc and forgot
So all rust bloods just have basic telekinesis for the most part right?
who knew 4 kids playing a silly little video game would cause such a fuss
>>155492690deploy more dbzi know who you are...
>>155492708I put my trust in the writers and have been dissapointed several times since they took over
>>155492702fun fact, this is me, and only me, no one else gets to kiss john ! :D>>155492714thats their power, aradia (most of the beta trolls in fact) are genetic or otherwise freakishly stronger than their peers for reasons outside of their control.
>>155492660yeah, we can go back to talking about dirk's horrible characterization in hsbc and how the current writers are still mostly hacks
>>155492690Brolee
>>155492723and what times were that?
>>155492714yeah, essentially. it was shown to 8e the case in Hiveswap, if you consider it canon
>>155492720If you're talking about this >>155489835 I made John here not Dave
>>155492714no, that is hiveswap revisionism
>>155492723this means nothing>>155492660check out this rewrite i found on tumblrhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1ICrfRlUmPIplKJcNyjkQ7xRioEbL-I9S9upsF878Bho/edit?tab=t.0
>>155492730nah. i like the characterization.
>>155492743yeah id know i made that dave im simply greedy for more
>>155492669This but June except I still complain anyways.
>>155492762you're wrong and were probably dropped on your head a few times. i'm glad we could have this productive conversation that doesn't go in circles for hours
>>155492690John Egbert having a one piece haki clash with Dave Strider
Alri6ht, one last thin6So the last two letters are said to 8e "chromosomic", which could 8e a hint towards a trans6ender identity
>>155492740I got really annoyed at how every update jumped to a different pov leading up to 8r8k because they could commit to a single scene for more than one update, and it was really bad for pacing as someone who was reading it live Same for the vriska VN, it basically halted the entire plot for almost a year and was terrible to power through that release scheduleKarkat's converastion with Callie was recontextualized from what it was in HS^2 (which fair, but not really, Ill explain why bellow) and it was used to pat themselves on the back a little while justifyin the awful piece of writing that are the epilogues by hainvg Karkat say "wow you really understand these characters and I can see how we could all become these awful persons"Also they said theyre not retconning anything from the previous team or the epilogues because it would be bad from a writers stand point to rethread on that and change someone elses work even if people didnt like it, but then they went ahead and retconned Jake and Jane into the meat ship and admitted they made that change of plans because they wanted to see more of those charactersI know that Homestuck is like THE irony poisoned media, but I feel like BC is a step too many in that directionAmong other things that would require me to re-read since the new team took over to complain about here, but i dont even know how many pages behind i am from the latest update
>>155491519when are you keeping your promise of reading beyond canon btw?
>>155492872you see how none of these includes satirs or nymphs.
>>155492936convenient goalpost moving
>>155492936because sartyrs and nymphs are... le good?
>>155492964Yeah I love those little trannies
>>155492961>talking about times anon was disapointed with the writing>detrius not mentioned> MOVING LE GOALPOSTS!!!
>>155493008do you understand what moving goalposts means
>>155492936Yeah because Ive always felt that HS^2/BC was at its best when it focused on the new characters and the old cast was either on the background or making sporadic appeareances. I liked the omega kids in ^2 and liked what I read on the deltritus kids. Its just that what theyre doing with the old cast feels like they want to tell this grandiose over arching story, but also its too irony poisoned and scared of people taking it too seriously.
>>155493041>its just that what theyre doing with the old cast feels like they want to tell this grandiose over arching story, but also its too irony poisoned and scared of people taking it too seriously. explain on that thought. i really liked the recent conversation with dirk and rosebot. even if it had some corny lines
>>155493102Like I said, Im behind, and I dont know by how much. I stopped reading updates as they came because I just didnt like what I was seeing. But since Beyond Canon I had this feeling that every important or serious moment had to be broken up by a quip, it feels like when everyone became Tony Stark in Marvel movies with the quick witty comments, except with self aware irony filled remarks. Someones always the butt of the joke because there has to be a joke. In a way I also find it a bit mean spirited, which Im not a fan of ngl.
>>155493145okay, goodnight
Why does everyone make tranny john into some kind of slut, it's John for fucks sake he isn't some AGP freak
>>155493427On the internet everything must be hypersexualized. Its just equality. Want to complain? Shut up fascist pig.
>>155493427because thats hotter than just being normal
>>155493541But John is normal
>>1554935836od i can't even read that. there's like zero color contrast
i love this oc but thinking about her makes me sad now
>>155493745She looks like she really wants to teach me typing
>>155493745is she yours :0 tell me about her :D
>>155491838I return, and this is this is as good as it's getting for me cause I ain't a good artist so I used TGP
>>155493889what kind of witch is she :0 im assuming you also got jade too?
>>155493901I was the second person to get Jade last thread, right after the first one.Witch of Void
>>155493862she is. shes kinda like jade, without the loneliness and anger issues. nothing be beans in her head
>>155493925noice! ill do my best!damn, we need a time player! any witches of time step forward! we need you for the session!!!!
my hive is coming along so cool..
>>155493945>recuperacoon in the top right of the roomAbysmal hive
>>155493981my hive is actually awesome tyvm you probably place your recuperacoon hanging from the cieling like some type of butterfly
>>155493981what's wrong with that?
>>155491838First Jade here, no OCYou can have an old dollmaker though
>>155494089whats your classpect, if i may ask, and sure thing!!!
>>155494104That one's a Witch of Doom, I wouldn't loiter nearby
>>155494158uh oh!man we have a dangerous team going on. the SBURB SENTAI WITCHRANGER team!
Chatted with a tween about sburb.exe for 2 hours and mentally I had to be like this
>>155494210imagine being groomed by a tween kek
>>155494210why in the world were you chatting with a tween
the book was so much better than the webcomic
>>155494225That would be fucked up anon, I can't imagine ever having to face life like that, my world would turn into a living hell, I can't begin to wonder how that would even happen....I DONT want that anon.
>>155494311what do you do in this situation, like how do you prove your innocence
>>155494311you didnt have to yell outloud how pathetic you want anon jeez
>>155494311>>155494210I never talk to kids, I don't even make eye contact cause we can take no chances
>>155494447brats....
>>155494463For spanking and being whisked off for correction into proper behavior
>>155494447John isn't snarky enough to be Kyon but he could grow into it
>>155494516which is why karkat will be kyon
Please save me
No.
>>155494716Libera te tutamet ex inferis
>>155494447>making vriska even more fuckable
>>155494733Only God can save me. And recently its been so quiet.
>>155495065post the stuck or GTFO
Currently listening to niggas in paris and this is the 4th time on repeat.
>>155495102Uh its pb larp very on topic sir
If only there was a very round female troll who could crush me with a hug
goodnight hsg
so so far we have. Witch of breath (ME)Witch of Space (juniper)Witch of VoidWitch of HopeWitch of DoomI hgave found my poses im gonna draw for you guys, and i will start tommorow! (today was a lazy day)Have a good night!
>>155495107No one enjoys the niggas in Paris like meWhen that shit about getting in his zone starts… the realest shit
>>155495354>No one enjoys the niggas in Paris like meUnfortunate choice of words
>>155495223Doc Scratch taught me to be a chill pdf and I wouldn’t have it any other way
>>155491507Please draw June eating his hairy pussy I'd owe you my life.
>>155492690Can you draw Eridan hacking and coughing after smoking a joint?
is she stupid?https://mspfa.com/?s=54371&p=965
>>155495739Ya shes fine a meteor must have knocked off her internet
>>155495774Hmmmmmmm
>>155495739She's retarded and I love her.
>TakisOficus stocks risingBuy while you can
>>155495739>patchouli>CRTstand back I think I'm gonna hurl
>>155496244what tf are you talking about retard
>Stops updating the best fanwork
>>155496332your MSPFA is deaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad
>>155496332I'm waiting for the Mass Appeal update too anon...
>>155496364would donkey punchwould not live to regret it
>>155496364wife
>>155496332I too miss Sbaby :c
Good thing alabaster: the doomed session is still going strong!
>>155496534This is like three squiggly lines away from being a Spongebob frame
>>155490072the best ones involve the Heir of Breath
>>155496684hussie swears that the hemospectrum makes sense and then these are your average rustbloods
beta kids
>>155496731bro hes a limeblood
dbz spics begone
>>155497049
>>155492712>>155492720>>155495720As you can see I'm not great with faces (also I'll try to do John and Dave clashing tomorrow in a bigger canvas, I tried to limit myself to a smaller size to get used to panel format)
>>155496987That bulky form leaks his green ki into his blood or some shit, he has red blood like any other saiyan
>>155497133Holy JohnQuest it's beautiful
>>155489800
>>155497133my farking Heir
>>155497133You forgot his horns.
>>155497270God fucking damnit how do I ALWAYS do this
>>155497276You ain't cut out for this troll shit lil cuh
