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Jean will carry Peter's spider brood. I know this because Kevin Feige told me.
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>I assure you dear viewer, holding Jean Grey in a bridal carry and having a staring contest with her is absolutely crucial for my efforts to stop her.
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>we got spider Phoenix but with next gen sidekicks
Marvel what the hell
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>>155678383
I'll take what I can get at this point
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>Jean had to make out with him to progress her plan
>Peter had to bridal carry her to keep her head from hitting the ground
>She had to mockingly joke about blushing to taunt him

You are here
>They were only having sibling coded sex
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Dunno if I mentioned it in the last thread (>>155594923) but even when the thread seemed like it was about to fall off the wagon, it STILL managed to hit the bump limit again. What the hell.
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>>155678308
This is true. Be prepared for this in Spider-Man: Fires of the Symbiote.
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>Baby conceived under the Symbiote and the Phoenix Force
Imagine
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Worst Ship Thread Archives.

From oldest (top) from the newest (bottom):
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154877621
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154893227
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154898929
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154916242
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154933242
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154946039
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154951260
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154956043
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154970202
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154968194
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154975467
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154993551
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154979913
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155008534
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155015786
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155023461
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155032098
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155044388
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155052557
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155071664
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155080946
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155098567
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155112534
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155132775
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155152942
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155169203
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155197920
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155229197
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155255208
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155266194
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155278953
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155321392
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155359260
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155402674
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155445550
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155511382
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155594923

Reminder to pay attention to trolls!
I hate you all anons! I'm still fucking dead!
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>>155678250
>she wanted to but a man in a trenchcoat called Kevin Feige kidnapped her and put her on a bus to nowhere
pretty much. franchise obligations. if Jean was an OC, Peter would likely come back from the hospital only to find her sitting on his apartment couch with her boots still on. but she's an established X-Men with places to be, and the writers kind of stumbled at writing her exit from the movie
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>PeterJean threads are still a thing.
heh, keep on doing what you love OP.
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>>155678362
what the fuck are those pants, Jean
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>>155678526
This is just not how you write movies and it only gets a pass because she's Jean Grey of the X Men so the audience intrinsically knows that her leaving means she's going to end up in the X Mansion.
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>>155678405
peak sibling love
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>>155678308
Why are all the fanart constantly emphasizing the underage mess?
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>>155678512
I thought Wolverine and Scott hated each other....
Did they get cucked by Peter?
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>>155678613
Jean is destined to be with Scott and Peter is destine to be with MJ
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>>155678308
Buy an ad.
This has to be the most aggressive blatant marketing stunt posted here before the invincible templates.
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>>155678786
Or maybe there are people who just like their ship?

MCU leans more on Jean x Scott due to it having a bigger fanbase and more rabid fans
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>>155678362
her legs don't even appear on the scene, he had no reason to hold them like that
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>>155678934
Tom really cares for Sadie as an adopted sister, he grew up with brothers
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>>155678786
This is the 38th peterjean thread that's hit the bump limit, fag. There's no marketing hype around here.
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>>155678786
PeterJean is so amazing that people think Marvel is making these threads.
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>>155678786
>the most aggressive blatant marketing stunt
I wish, because it would imply that they aren't simply going to end up in their designated areas as the centers of romantic messes.
>>155678405
>She had to mockingly joke about blushing to taunt him
I just find it incredibly interesting that the first take for that line (the one they released for the recent BTS featurette) has Jean saying "You looked me up!" with a bit of enthusiasm rather than the sarcastic "You looked me up?" question that we ended with in the final cut.
It sort of validates my thoughts about Jean, in a twisted way, viewing Peter as the closest thing she had to a friend by that point, and that she had fun "playing" with him during their scuffles.
>https://youtu.be/1NcjsnEpfbw?t=76
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Anything to get rid of Zendaya. She's fucking awful.
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>>155679196
I'm surprised they even released that BTS video
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I can see Amy Pascal pushing for this pairing
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>>155679196
A lot of people criticize that Jean was too antagonistic when she didn't even know Sarah died but I think that informs her character in an interesting way. Everything she did to Peter was probably just her baseline ruthlessness. She was enjoying it. She did want him out of the way but she loved pushing him
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You people are retarded lmao
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>>155679650
Are you a Scottfag? Don't worry, MCU won't take a risk with Jean and they will make sure to let her end up with Scott. You guys literally do melties on social media
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>>155679681
Fucking obsessed lol
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>>155678308
Cool story bro, but I'll believe it because the biggest power movers in the MCU revolve around Peter Parker and only one is fertile. Unless Bob uses his powers to de-sterilize Yelena.
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>>155679650
>>155679731
Why are you so angry?
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Yes! Another Jean Grey thread! So making big progress in the game, already got the general plot going and now will be coding the scenes.
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>>155679731
You Jott shippers just want Jean to always end up with Scott in everything. You guys genuinely don't want Jean to have agency and want her to be just "Scott's overpowered girlfriend". Her plot points in animation are like that, she needs Scott to develop.

I hope the MCU makes it Jean-centric and gives her a harem of guys, not only Scott
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why would they kill the romance with MJ and start one with Jean if there's no intentions of developing Peter and Jean more?

then again, Marvel has been shit for a long fucking time now
I wouldn't be surprised if this was all accidental and they were trying their hardest to be shit and made something decent as a total fluke
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>>155678308
Peter, she's like 15.
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>>155680572
Isn't she 18? She was last recorded as 15 as she got out of the orphanage
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>>155680572
…out of 10! He’s got great taste.
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Angry Jean makes my pp hard!
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>>155678417
Dedicated fans. The more they say that the ship will fail, it just keeps sailing. Even MCU knows this
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>>155678362
they knew what they were doing releasing this, come on now, also the ending quote

"you looked me up? im blushing"
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>>155680900
She’s similar in age, maybe a little younger, to Peter via Feige’s statement. The youngest she can be while being a teenager is 19 and that’s somewhat similar in age. Realistically, she’s probably 20 or 21 to Peter’s 22. She doesn’t act like a teenager nor does she have any of that awkward teenage vibe MCU teens do.
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I just got my Doomsday ticket bros. Small part of me hopes Jean will make a cameo, but I'm more focused on my Elizabeth Olsen appearing
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>>155678308
Is that natty?
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>>155681765
hes literally a meta human, he is the antithesis of "natty"
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>>155681069
Need this.
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Seriously one glance and I thought he's Sadie's brother lmao. No hate I am genuinely excited for his Cyclops, but I do want Peter and Jean together.
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>>155682136
He looks more like Sadie's brother than her real one. He is also ridiculously good looking and will make a very good Cyclops, hope the writers give him an amzing script to work on since he can act well
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>>155678526
>>155678613
They can work after they re connect in Secret Wars. Neither wants to burden the other with their problems but you can still have Jean show up for the opening action sequence that interrupted their date in the next Spidey movie. And the X-men wanting to kill Peter.
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>>155680019
game?
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>>155682455
Antagonist X-Men in the MCU would be a cool take while Jean tries to change then from within
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>>155682510
I was talking more about the inhibitor but thats cool too. Their relationship is key to connecting X-men/Avengers and they should lead for the next phase.
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>>155682136
>Seriously one glance and I thought he's Sadie's brother lmao
A lot of people thought that as well…
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>>155678604
Her mom made them from their curtains don’t be cruel.
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>>155682757
Kit needs to dye his hair brown
They have good chemistry
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>>155678362
jean got the ass of jia lissa here
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>>155682931
Jis Lissa is Sadie Sink's porn clone after all
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>>155682931
Disney might go beserk, but a porn studio should get Jia to play a Jean Grey parody
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they gave us the hot redhead love interest for Spiderman

they better not fuck this up
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>>155683132
>they better not fuck this up
(they will fuck it up)
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>>155680524
I don't think they killed the romance with MJ. Tom and Zendaya won't let that happen. It's probably just been put on the backburner for a while to give Spiderman some freedom for a bit.
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>>155683379
>Tom and Zendaya won't let that happen
Why? Whats with this bullshit assumption that they both are stubborn about it? Zendaya has other roles slobbering on dudes, even in BND she dated someone else.
I keep seeing people say Zendaya wont allow it but I doubt shes a hypocrite and both accepted its acting. I'd be more impressed if they let the consequence stick, they even called it stupid as fuck in the movie if she remembered.
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Peter taking a bullet for Jean was the first time in her life since Sarah that anyone ever consented to doing something for her
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>>155683379
I don't know man. Within the movie it looks pretty much over. MJ has a boyfriend, moved on with life. She's distraught that Peter never told her the truth but admits the spell worked because she feels nothing for him and remembers nothing.
I think it'd be pretty bad messaging and contrived if MJ dumped her boyfriend and fell for a stranger just because the actors are stubborn.
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>>155678362
>those fuck me eyes by Jean
Kiss her dammit!!!! Reeeeeeeeeeee
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>>155678362
Everyone is hyping up this moment even though the context is Peter arresting her using a mutant oppression device that has historically been used as an allegory for discrimination
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>>155683512
He could have let her die then and there, but he chose to carry her
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Not really a comicbook fan but I vaguely know the lore.

The future of the new Spidey trilogy feels like it's going to get caught in a tug-of-war between following the story where it naturally leads, and following the need to stay aligned with the comics and the wider franchise.

When I look at Brand New Day in isolation, it looks like it's going to allow Peter to fly solo a lot more compared to the past. It looks like Jean Grey is going to be a prominent Spiderman character in the future even though she's gone into hiding for the moment. It looks like MJ is going to become a friend in a bittersweet way, rather than a romantic interest again. It looks like Spiderman feuding with large organizations such as the DOTD is a realistic future. All of this is what the story seems to be naturally building towards if you've never watched a Marvel movie before.

But when you stop looking at the movie in isolation you realize how unlikely that all is because it's out of alignment with the outside forces. Peter has a trademark friend group that Marvel wants to always have a big presence in his films. Jean Grey is actually a major character from another Marvel subfranchise so she's likely not coming back aside from brief cameos. The actors for Peter and MJ are married so they're likely going to gravitate towards reigniting the romance even though it'll feel unnatural in the story. And Spiderman will forget about the DOTD because that's likely a plot direction the next writing team won't care much about.

The optimist in me hopes the Marvel/Sony writers will do the right thing and organically follow through on what Brand New Day started. The chances of that are pretty low, unfortunately, but one can dream.
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>>155683608
>Out of alignment
while having Michelle Jones with Peter who acts like a OC I doubt they really care.
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>>155683608
They will piss off many people if they follow the Pter x Jean route
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>>155683716
>They will piss off many people if they follow the Pter x Jean route
For what it's worth I don't even ship Peter and Jean Grey in that fashion. Should've said that in my post. And she could be a major character going forward without it turning into a full blown romance, so people wouldn't get pissed off.
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>After everything we've just been through this fucking idiot is still talking to me about doing the right thing
>one more word and I replace all of his memories with anal rape
>THAT'S IT
>oh
>ohh this is quite nice
>ohhh i'm gonna
>uhhghgnn
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>>155683716
Marvel should not underestimate the amount of sheer publicity and attention they could generate for these characters by creating a shipping war between MJ/Peter fans, Peter/Jean fans, and Scott/Jean fans. From a business perspective it'd be a masterful move.
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>spiderman's big power up
>he now has super strength, enhanced reflexes, and web shooting
>it's literally all of his exact same powers

>jean's big power up
>she now has telekinesis, multi-possession, 100x increased possession range, and bypasses mental resistances

This doesn't seem fair.
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>>155683886
I think people are underestimating Peter's power up.
Each individual hand Ninja is on par with with a normal Peter Parker
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>>155683886
Out of all of the comparisons to Naruto and Sasuke, this right here is the most accurate similarity. The edgy one gets all the toys.
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>>155683886
>peter
>unlocks full tobeyman moveset with added speed

>jean
>unlocks full comic jean moveset without the giant evil chicken taking over her brain
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>>155683898
>he's now twice as strong
>after the movie nerfed him to be so weak he can't stop an armored car
So right back to where he used to be then.
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Peter basically caused Jean's evolution by turning her into Damage Control. He deflowered her super powers.
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>>155683920
You basically have to pretend he didn't hold the staten island ferry with his arms in his first movie but yes
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>>155683886
Jean Grey's always been bullshit OP. If anything, I hope future movies will limit her power.

And don't underestimate Spiderman's powerup. The boost to all his stats seems pretty big. And the new webs that constantly stream out of his wrist and create dense thick fields seem pretty overpowered if he keeps actually using them to its full potential.

Though in all likelihood this powerup only exists to make whoever stomps Peter (probably Dr. Doom) look even more dangerous.
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sorry to bring this up but i'm autistic and i think its interesting

i think characters in-universe are sexist to a degree that they infantilize women doing bad things. This is normal. This is how real men operate. Wanda is significantly more dangerous than Peter and more self sufficient but a man like Steve still insn't going to smack her over the head with a vibranium shield

Peter tolerated getting sexually assaulted by Jean. If a man did that he would probably cave his skull.
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>>155683716
who will they piss off? the 300 comic book fags screeching on their forums? the femcel zendaya fans? fuck them, who cares
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>>155683608
I hate how the MCU is at risk of becoming a stage play for real life factors instead of telling its own tale

That's an edge the Raimi movies will always have over it. They were interested in being movies first and foremost.
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>>155683608
I mean you're right but the MCU Peter is more like Miles than Peter Parker. The hero worship. The fat Asian tech best friend. Getting into multiverse shit before he can even drive a car. Constantly needing new mentors.
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The dynamic between Peter and Jean should be similar to Cap and Black Widow from Winter Soldier. If you know you know.
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Jean is literally the only cute girl in the entire MCU.
What the fuck happened to marvel?
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>>155684063
There's multiple offshoot timelines of 616 where Cap and Widow have a son
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Can we just abandon the comics?
It's not like the comics need to follow the comics.
Why should the movies need to?
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>>155684063
Yeah that'd be cool.
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>>155684097
The comics should just be an inspiration point instead of the law. The MCU is already its own thing
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>>155683452
...she got her memory back
That's why she was crying while frozen by Jean
Literacy is dead
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>>155684124
Or because she was terrified of being taken over. Your interpretation isn't the explanation
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>>155684124
Why would being frozen in place by Jean make her memories come back? They didn't make Ned's memories come back.
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Honestly knowing the comics it isn't far fetched that Jean can override Strange's magic through sheer force. I don't like that idea but she is just that powerful
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This movie alleges that Peter isn't operating on the magical Spider Totem stuff but his body actually thinks he's supposed to be a spider and makes him go through the development phases of a spider
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>>155683886
Jean's an omega level mutant, who's also a cosmic entity, Peter is The Fly if he was a superhero
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>>155684130
She'd already been taken over
She was frozen
Nobody else was fucking crying
Cinema is a visual language
>>155684132
>Why would continuous mind fucking by Jean jog her memory
You're dumb

At the end of the movie both Ned and MJ remember him
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>>155684192
>At the end of the movie both Ned and MJ remember him
Ned possibly remembers him because of the handshake. Not because of Jean's spell.
Why is it always people who rant about media literacy and being observant who end up being the most delusional or retarded?
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Spider-man is a "Can he survive this" kind of superhero while Jean is a "She might be able to beat Goku" kind of superhero. They aren't in the same ballpark
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>>155684192
I would be crying too if I had been frozen in place. Others were probably crying and freaked out as well.

>both Ned and MJ remember him

Ned probably but not MJ, although she might remember the "feeling" at best. Though honestly it's pretty open-ended so I kind of hope MJ and maybe even Ned don't really remember him. Ned would make sense though since he has magic. I was also thinking maybe Jean's depressed emotions were reaching people.
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>>155684192
>Nobody else was fucking crying
The camera didn't zoom on anyone else's faces like that, anon. You don't know who else had been crying. Half of the people frozen in New York could've been crying, we didn't see. You're reaching.
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>>155684210
Not this Jean.
This Jean would have died to Frank.
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>>155684192
Nobody else was shown crying, you mean.
She was shown crying to rise the stakes in dramatic moment that was revealing Peter's close ones being at Jean's mercy.
That was the most important storytelling purpose of showing her crying at the moment.
And we know they had three endings: them regaining memories (which was hated by the test audience), not regaining them, and the chosen one which leaves it in ambiguity.
You are reaching and pushing your interpretation while calling it a high brow art of media literacy because grasping at such straws is all you got.
While you also don't address the point that dumping her current boyfriend now over it would be a pretty crappy thing to do, especially from the point of Peter's growth as a character.
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I thought MJ was crying because she was the only civilian aware that Jean is willing to throw them all off of a building
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>>155684652
>We are going to have THE SEX now PEter!
>Jean wh WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN MY HOUSE
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>>155684652
I don't think she's a dom
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>>155683608
>And Spiderman will forget about the DOTD because that's likely a plot direction the next writing team won't care much about.
That's the only thing I'm on the fence when it comes to agreeing, because the DODC have been involved with the main tragedies in Peter 1's life in 3 out of 4 movies now.
>They are the reason Toomes became jobless.
>Main reason he lost his Stark stuff, and they start hunting him for a bit when the villains get loose.
>BND
So, at least there's some precedent for them.
>>155683430
It's also the second time in her life someone took a shot (varying levels of lethality here, but still) and tried to keep her safe at the same time.
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>>155684210
That's phoenix jean, MCU jean doesn't have the phoenix force yet and idk if they're actually gonna go that route with her or just stick to this one
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>>155685473
The previous two jeans only lasted a movie and a half before going Phoenix
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>>155685523
Sophie Jean went Phoenix in her first movie
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>>155682467
Yeah its a small spiderphoenix visual novel I decided to make in honor of this ship. Completely free, of course the challenge is to finish it.
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>>155685433
She tries to be a dom at first, but then loses control halfway through and Peter takes over. She also likely cries happy tears after sex sometimes.
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>>155684246
Everybody that wants the two back together forgets that MJ has a boyfriend, been living without Peter for years and built a life of her own because Peter stayed out of it. If the MCU tries to force them back together, it’d be a pretty shitty writing decision. You don’t even have to be a SpiderPhoenix shipper to realize this.
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if they end up together again then nwh was a waste of time that only exists for hype moments and aura
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>>155678405
>Jean had to make out with him to progress her plan
That was just for fun.
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>>155684120
>The MCU is already its own thing
It literally calls its universe 616. It's a replacement, not a supplement.
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>>155684160
It's less magic bullshit and more genetic mutations. The comics should've went that way instead and make the radiation gamma-based instead of it being nameless.
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>>155686724
gamma based Spider-Man would imply a The One Below All connection and that's even worse than the totem stuff
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Maybe when Charles Xavier dies again Jean Grey will take over his position.
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>>155678405
t. Only Child
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Jean should have remained a villain after this movie and her villainy should have continued until she psychically pinned him down, tore his suit off, sat on his cock and rode him until he came in her
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>>155689513
calm down Jean
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>>155683886
Pete's clowned on the X-Men, twice. Spider Sense, Superstrength and Agility is an insane combination in a fight.
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>>155684199
>Possibly
Retard. It's obvious he remembers. There is no ambiguity.
>>155684220
>>155684234
>>155684246
>Probably
Retard
>Duhh but they didn't zoom in on a random lady's face
NO SHIT RETARD THAT'S THE POINT
>It's to heighten the sense that pete's loved ones were in danger
Ned wasn't fucking crying

You are all of you completely stupid
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nice to see this finally got a cleaner translation
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>>155690172
Is this implying that she used mind control on him
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>>155683947
>Though in all likelihood this powerup only exists to make whoever stomps Peter (probably Dr. Doom) look even more dangerous.
I mean, it exists for the climax of BND where we translate Peter self actualization into a cool action scene where he is now demonstrably more combat capable in pretty much every way. Punctuated by him almost effortlessly and literally blowing through an obstacle he was struggling with before.

That's it anon.
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5 more days until the digital release. Hopefully it has some interesting featurettes.
None of the movies have a director commentary
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>>155691536
Kind of hoping someone on the bonus features is talking about Jean's character and makes an off-handed joke like "I think she has a crush on Spider-Man or something." Similar to how Karen joked about Nebula's crush on Peter Quill.

https://youtube.com/shorts/GId5a7pcZRM
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>>155678786
there's genuine interest anon. even irl. you'd be surprised
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Bruh I think this is the first MCU Jean cos play I saw. And it's Japanese
https://x.com/ninnin136/status/2105228789706092701
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>>155691750
Holy kino
I love AI
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Lmao I just saw a thread about that infamous Demi Moore shota and people defended saying she was 19 so not big age gap. The fucking hypocrisy. Let's see if the genders are flipped.
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>tfw the jean art on danbooru is slowly reverting back to the comic and cartoon versions
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>>155691536
>Hopefully it has some interesting featurettes.
Did the other digital releases have anything notable in them?
Also, maybe it's recency bias or something, but they are really promoting this release.
I don't remember how it was like back when NWH was around, and the account erased every post that isn't BND related, so I can't check that, either.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Dd5CvEOBwUv/
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>>155692190
I have No Way Home on digital. Most of the featurettes are short and don't really go in depth. If you want in depth you go for interviews.
Movies that really shake up the earth like Avatar or the Raimi films get heavy featurette content but the Home Trilogy mostly got some short bonus videos explaining how scenes were made. They don't really go deep on the character writing or philosophy. The Spider Verse movies do have that though
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>>155683716
No one cares about the Zendaya femserters.
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Hear me out guys, I know a way to bring more life back into the Peterjean threads
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>>155692598
And what would that be?
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>>155692598
I would say just hang around for the next few days since the movie is coming to home video and there will be some new stuff to discuss
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>>155692609
More porn, obviously
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>>155692609
Jean Grey, but she's Japanese
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You can't smell Japanese without Jean
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>>155693403
cute
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I'm thinking of how to combine this viral trend of Peter and Jean, with the other viral trend of Spider Troon (Petra Parker), to obtain double the virality
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>>155691750
I know we're all jaded and unimpressed with anything, but...

How the fuck is this even possible?
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>>155692598
The one thing holding this ship back permanently is a lack of certainty on Jeans age. More artists would.be comfortable otherwise.
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>>155694511
Kevin Forgieee said they are similar in age, at this point its only Zendaya fans pretending not to know this. 19-21 is my guess since Frank called her a teenager.
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>>155693939
I love them together!
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>>155678308
Least mentally ill shippers lmao
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>>155692598
1 hour SpiderPhoenix sex scene in the director’s cut.
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>>155679284
>Anything to get rid of Zendaya.
Introduce Paul
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>>155690132
Pic related, you
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>>155695532
Putin converted him into christianity to be elected as the next Spider-Man instead of letting Miles have a go at it.
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>>155695532
He was already introduced
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>>155694888
>t. Scott
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so MJ is going to dump her boyfriend and go back on the whole "i've moved on, i remember absolutely nothing, it's over" bit? sounds like a homage to the Raimi movies lol
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>>155697105
I hope not, just how tired is that? Same as the phoenix arc, I'm sick of it!
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>>155697135
The Phoenix arc is traditional for Jean. It's part of her character just like being broke is for Peter
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>>155697179
Marvel is already doing their own thing, might as well give her something new and daring to do, shall I say...Brand New?
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>>155697211
What's the point of using Jean and not using her Mythos?
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>>155697179
See...... Brand New Day never really showed Peter having financial struggles. In fact some complained that he's not broke.
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They really thought that making the interior of Peter's apartment brown with some visible metal elements would automatically make him seem poor
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>>155697229
Why would you want to use ALL of it exactly the same as it has been rehashed countless times? It gets stale and repetitive after a few movies of the same.
Same with Peter, the MCU didn't completely use his mythos, he got Ned instead of Harry and basically he is Miles with Peter's identity and it worked. Jean is also very different from comics or cartoon Jean.
And it worked. I say give the franchise to some strong writers and it can really pop up on its own, maybe even be better than the comics themselves. People need to stop thinking they're the be all, end all of a character's identity, otherwise we end with the same stories repeated over and over. In fact that's also why manga has been kicking their ass for a long time since in manga characters are allowed to grow and change, or even die.
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>>155697252
Now who would be a good writer and director to continue the franchise? I say give it to Vince Gilligan and his Breaking Bad crew. They can work their magic and make more stuff like BND
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>>155697238
>>155697238
To be honest, there is plethora of ways for Start Jr to keep himself at float. It's not like he spends anything on luxuries.

Comics could make it more believable because up to 90s a lone genius couldn't set up passive income so easily as today. But nowadays, him being broke is just out of him not trying to make money, when he can make stuff like inhibitor out of scraps in a mancave
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The only reason Peter is poor in the comics is so that new readers always have a familiar starting point just from knowing the basics about Spider Man. It isn't real storytelling. It's branding.
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>>155695970
I accept your concession
It must suck to be bad at watching movies
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>>155697298
Yeah, some people say he could work as a remote web developer or something, that actually makes sense. He has money but they get him by without luxuries. Or if anything his tech are his luxuries. Even in the movie he moved rooms to be more private because he doesn't want neighbors (and easier access to rooftops as Spidey)

Let's be honest though broke Peter, is overplayed and in some ways unrealistic.
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Dude has a Galaxy Flip he made through his fabricator, which probably costs a lot of electricity to run. He might not be """rich"""" but he has the resources to get by pretty well at least.

He also made E.V. too, apparently.
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>that's right peter
>touch her
>hold her
>feel her
>stick your fingers in her peter
>fucking bend her over and ram it in Peter you stupid fucking simple spider give it to me huhhhhh
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>>155697238
Probably because he's smart enough to use his tech to sell shit
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>>155697105
God I hope not.
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genuinely wondering how this particular version of Jean Grey is supposed to fit into the X-Men

she's a sullen loner who clearly has an evil streak, trusts no one, and doesn't let anyone close. if the new X-Men movie wants to keep her character consistent with BND, she'll have to just quietly and cautiously keep her distance away from everyone while the movie happens. i can't see this Jean being open to making friends yet, the only person in the world she trusts is in New York not among the X-Men

so i'm expecting she'll probably get a lobotomy and will have a completely new personality
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>>155698041
it is funny how she's basically most of the softer versions of magneto
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How long does it take for MCU synergy to hit the comics? Waiting for the inevitable Jean and Spider-Man focused team-up.
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>>155698041
Peter would notice if she stopped acting like the lovable psychopath he knows
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>>155698533
It already did. Mangaverse did Symbiote vs Phoenix just two days ago
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>>155698041
I think she's still softer than the x-men themselves. Emma is a psycho worse than Jean, Cyclops is a supremacist, Xavier is fucked up.
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>>155699257
To be fair most incarnations of the X-men outside of specifically 616 are just based on the movies or the 90s cartoon to some capacity
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>>155697342
>let me tell you my non retarded argument that refutes your point
>Ned wasn't crying
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>>155694036
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>>155686694
>It's a replacement, not a supplement.
If that were true the 616 comics would stop being produced the moment the first Iron Man movie came out.
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>>155697252
Would she be annoyed if Peter called her a child?
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>>155698041
Maybe she won't really open up until the end of the movie after a climatic fight. Or if Peter does play a part he encourages Jean to connect with the X-Men. Then they can safely lobotomize her in the next movie.

Hopefully she keeps some semblance of bratty behavior though. Her new personality is so fun.
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How powerful would Peter be if he had Jean's abilities and Jean had Peter's spider powers and tingle?
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>>155702679
Peter is smarter and more strategic than Jean. Remember that he can do complex math calculations in his head while Jeans first instinct to save her sister was to mindlessly barge into a prison and blow it up
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>>155696722
Obsessed lmao
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>>155700344
Faggot shit
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>>155698041
i can't use paint but here
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>>155702759
Kek.
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>>155686958
>gamma based Spider-Man would imply a The One Below All connection and that's even worse than the totem stuff
Only for the comics. For adaptations, it's a non issue. Gamma does whatever the fuck anyway.
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Most versions of the spider after ultimate are genetically engineered by scientists
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>>155702726
>while Jeans first instinct to save her sister was to mindlessly barge into a prison and blow it up
Somehow such simple minded savagery only makes her hotter to me.
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>>155703165
>Moveset tailored to strategic espionage
>Instead chooses massive destruction and gets identified within hours
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>>155703148
Making it gamma rays keeps the original origin intact.
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>>155702759
the fucking boots
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I think the whole reason Jean wasn't careful is because her powers make it easy to be reckless and get away with it
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They're really scrambling to fit in those new Peter and Jean sex scenes, goddamn.
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>>155703970
feige-sama, I kneel
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>>155703970
I really don't feel like the Russo brothers are based enough for Peter x Jean teasing... and now I'm bummed.
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https://files.catbox.moe/leod2z.mp4
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>>155703970
A man can dream.
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>>155678308
So, what would Mayday look like with Jean as her mom?
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>>155706218
like Hope Summers, maybe with brown hair instead
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>>155706218
Kind of funny to think that two of the "rumors" behind Sink's role in BND involved both Mayday Parker and Rachel Summers.
Which makes me think that the child would just end up as a carbon copy of Jean herself.
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They established that Peter is essentially Jean's only link to humanity.

So they're probably keeping that card in their back pocket. Either they're killing Peter or nearly killing him to make Jean go crazy.
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>>155706695
How is she not depressed that everyone she knows doesn't exist
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>>155707276
These days I'm pretty sure there are a lot of people who could lose everything and feel nothing. People already joke about how they can't wait for armageddon.
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>>155707243
>They established that Peter is essentially Jean's only link to humanity.
MCU Jean speaks with rhetoric that implies she doesn't count Peter as a human
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>>155707472
I keep thinking she is slightly supremacist and thinks Peter is a mutant too.
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>>155708468
he literally is
he got bit by a radioactive spider and mutated into spiderman
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>>155703487
She is broken as fuck
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>>155708696
No, mutants are born with the x-gene. Peter is a mutate, huge difference.
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>>155709506
me no mutant, mutante nunca
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>>155702726
>while Jeans first instinct to save her sister was to mindlessly barge into a prison and blow it up
To be fair, that was after like a month of trying more stealthy approach and failing
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>>155709729
>that was after like a month of trying more stealthy approach and failing
>stealthy approach
Yelena points out that the tank thing was the fourth time Jean had attacked Damage Control just in that month alone.
>Whatever it is, they are looking for something. this is the fourth attack on the Damage Control facility this month.
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>>155709506
They are so cute together
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>>155708468
Don't ask a mutant extremist about her mutate boyfriend.
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>>155707276
>>155707299
How long ago did that actually happen?
Despite what most would think, people are perfectly capable of recoving from their trauma even if it takes time. Not being able to is called a mental disorder for a reason.
The reason why people don't just trauma dump is out of politeness, not because they'll become a nervous wreck every time they do.
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>>155707243
>>155707472
So if the X-Men attacked Spidey over the inhibitor device which side would Jean be on?
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>>155708468
Yeah I was getting that vibe too but the movie doesn't really put it into words

Jean includes Peter when she says Damage control hunts people who are different
When Jean rants about her sister's death she compares it to Peter.
Peter is not a mutant, but the movie makes sure to bring up mutation when discussing him. He is a mutate but having the same root word is a clear intent to invoke a similar thought.

The movie wants you to compare mutants and Peter. Jean intentionally does so. When Jean is trying to force Peter to "Accept" that he is Spider man and not Peter Parker the unspoken part of that is "Be like me". Jean doesn't have an alias in the MCU but she has clearly submitted herself to becoming just "Marvel Girl" or whatever you'd call her. I think that moment clarifies why she is so destructive and callous towards the normies, she sees them as a completely different superhuge entity.
"People like us"

TLDR Jean just happens to see herself, mutants, and Peter as a different group from people who should act differently
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>>155708468
>Mutant birthright to conquer
Jean gets dangerously close to talking like this in BND. She seems to think being a mutant means she has no choice but to be "above humans" in the food chain
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>>155708468
Hot!
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>>155711000
Your theory kinda falls apart because her philosophy isn't really about "mutants" as much as it is about "people with powers" not being able to live normal lives because of their powers.
To begin with, mutants aren't really widely recognized or even ostracized in the MCU so far.



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