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My favorite image of the ship

jean grey cheating on a neglectful scott summers with peter parker

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Spiderphoenix Generation 2

Still... weird...

I just learned that the spider man movie made over 2 billion dollars.

Seriously what the fuck? It was decent but nowhere near good enough to justify that.

>>155842832
jean grey's FAT and FIRM box office

>>155842832
It's a Spider-Man movie, it was destined to do well.

>>155842832
It's been five years since the previous spider-man movie. The tom holland generation of fans are adults now and this movie is the introduction of the X-men into the MCU

>>155842954
bro I don't want the fucking x men in the mcu
that's a terrible idea
we can have this one telepath but no one else

>>155842986
You are getting cyclops wolverine and storm

>>155843003
well then I'll just skip the entire next phase of the mcu like I did with the previous one

>Didn't watch like nearly all of Phase 4
>Watched literally none of Phase 5
>Haven't really watched anything of Phase 6 except Spider-Man

I'm ready to be completely lost watching Doomsday. Like I don't even care that much about Doomsday, I'm really just waiting for Secret Wars and hoping Spider-Man has a big, meaty role.

I might watch Deadpool and Wolverine someday. Honestly, the only reason I haven't is because I got spoiled on nearly all of it.

>>155842986
Are there any actual serious fans of the x-men that aren’t being used to shill stupid agendas from virtual signalling political spergs?

2025: why the fuck is Jean in the next Spider Man movie?
2026: Jean better be in the next Spider Man movie

>>155842827
Miles Fans just have to copy Peter huh

>>155842758
>his ass and tits are bigger than hers
What is this future?

>>155842758
>40 threads
where are the 40 links?

>>155844252
That isn't fanart mate Laura is the Phoenix in the manga canon

I watched this movie last night and I can't be the only one who feels like the way things ended was extremely jarring?
>Spiderman is struggling because he's alone and can't move on with his life
>Jean Grey is struggling because her only remaining family was abducted (and killed) so she's alone
>story reaches its peak when they sit down and talk to each other after fully understanding each other's pain and loneliness
>Jean laments that she's alone and Spiderman tells her "you have me" and proves it in the most dramatic way possible
>they save each other and feel extremely close despite being at each other's throats most of the movie
>but then Jean immediately leaves after Peter wakes up?
>abandons the person who promised she'd never be alone?
>so she can go be alone somewhere else?
>while Peter goes back to the same friends he failed to move on from
And from what I've heard, this is Jean's last appearance in a Spiderman movie? What the fuck? Was the last 10% of the movie written by completely different writers?

>>155844565
Yup, Jean will be with the X-Men

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Damn threads still moving fast!
>>155844374
I got some, also from TV but not every one unlike archive anon.
Best Ship Thread Archives.
From oldest (top) from the newest (bottom):
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154877621
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154893227
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154898929
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154916242
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154933242
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154946039
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154951260
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154956043
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154970202
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154968194
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154975467
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154993551
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154979913
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155008534
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155015786
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155023461
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155032098
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155044388
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155052557
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155071664
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155080946
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155098567
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155112534
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155132775
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155152942
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155169203
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155197920
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155229197
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155255208
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155266194
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155278953
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155321392
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155359260
>>155443513
>>155399313
>>155292358
>>155322166
>>155501634

>>155844565
So they make Peter and Jean central to each other's storylines and then split them apart permanently.

Right. I think I'm done with the MCU.

>>155842758
>Shipping Pete with a filthy telepath
I don't have anything against mutants. As long as they are not X-Men or Brotherhood dolts I'm fine with them.
However telepaths should be banished to the negative zone to rot there.

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>>155844794
>Look, Peter, I can handle the thief, that paddy police captain's daughter, and the tunnel diggin gook. But a mutie and worse, a telepath? Jesus Christ Peter, is there no low you won't sink to? I knew not growing up with a father would have an effect on you as a man , but I never knew you would fall this far. Now I'm glad my brother never lived to see what you have become. Not just a race traitor but a traitor to the whole human race. Get the fuck out of my car!

>>155844803
I think Ben's only issue with a mutant would be if they are a telepath or not.

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>>155844815
How would Aunt May react to the news if she didn't die in NWH and Peter arrived with a stinky, rain drenched Jean to their apartment?

>>155844565
Welcome to capeshit, you won't enjoy your stay. Storytelling always plays second fiddle to roster management and copyright arguments between Sony and Marvel.

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>i've been a filthy telepath, petey

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>>155845122
>Jean lies back beneath the hanging webbing, ankles secured loosely enough to move but not escape.
>Peter checks the knots twice.
>“You’re staring,” she says.
>“I’m making sure you’re comfortable.”
>“I’m making sure you’re uncomfortable.” Jean replies with a grin
>Her legs shift wider, exposing her hairy cunt, deliberately inviting his attention.
>Peter looks away.
>Jean laughs.
>“Still pretending to be civilized?”
>“Someone has to be.”
>“That wasn’t you in the alley.”
>Peter’s expression changes.
>Jean’s smile becomes the same cruel, ecstatic grin she wore through Scorpion’s armored face.
>“You remember,” she says. “The claws. The tail. The way you kept hitting me after I stopped pretending to be surprised.”
>“You were trying to kill a police officer.”
>“I was trying to make you angry.”
>“You succeeded.”
>“I know.”
>She lifts her chin.
>“You became so wonderfully ugly.”
>Peter steps closer.
>“Don’t call me that.”
>“Why? You call yourself a hero because it sounds nicer than monster.”
>He plants one hand behind her head, yanking at her hair hard until she is staring straight into his eyes.
>Jean’s pupils widen.
>“There,” she whispers. “That’s the posture.”
>“Jean.”
>“Tell me I’m a defective mutant.”
>“No.”
>“A dangerous freak?”
>“Absolutely not.”
>“A bad girl from a bad species?”
>Peter exhales sharply.
>Jean smiles.
>“You don’t have to believe it. Just let the human pretend.”
>Peter binds her wrists above her head and gives her a firm, controlled strike.
>Jean gasps.
(CONT.)

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>>155845186
>Then she laughs.
>“Harder.”
>“Don’t push me.”
>“I’m trying to.”
>He pulls her close, kisses her hard, and ignores every teasing remark until Jean is the one losing her breath.
>“There he is,” she whispers.
>Peter grabs the webbing and pulls her closer.
>“You don’t get to control this.”
>“I’m not controlling it.”
>She bites her lip.
>“I’m encouraging you to stop being a pussy and pound MY PUSSY.”
>That is what finally breaks him.
>Peter stops being careful with his words, his kisses, or his expression.
>When the webbing finally strains, her moans are loud enough to rattle the apartment.
>Jean laughs through them, utterly delighted that Peter has become exactly as frightening as she hoped.

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>>155844844
Seeing how she was sympathetic to all of the super villains in NWH, including Norman who kills her. She would probably give Jean the benefit of the doubt and eventually be a loving and caring mother-in-law. Outside her immediate reaction to finding out Peter is Spider-man she is surprisingly well adjusted to Peter almost dying a bunch and them both getting erased by the blip.

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>>155844794

peter parker's big potato

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>>155845459
A shame she died, more of their interactions would have been good. Still it feels like this Peter is far more mature compared to the Home movies where he truly acted more like a teenager out of his depth.

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>>155844756
You're missing a bunch. This is the complete one.

From oldest (top) from the newest (bottom):
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154877621
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154893227
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154898929
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154916242
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154933242
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154946039
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154951260
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154956043
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154970202
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154968194
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154975467
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154993551
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154979913
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155008534
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155015786
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155023461
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155032098
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155044388
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155052557
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155071664
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155080946
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155098567
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155112534
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155132775
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155152942
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155169203
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155197920
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155229197
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155255208
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155266194
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155278953
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155321392
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155359260
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155402674
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155445550
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155511382
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155594923
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155678308
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155758112

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>>155841335
>Sink describes Jean as a "teenage girl, but with a very hard exterior".
>It's up to Peter to break her out of her shell.
And I'm supposed to let their "weird connection" go after this movie...

>Peter tells Jean "I will always be in your way"
>clearly sets up a future movie where Peter stops Jean before going full psycho with the dark phoenix
>probably stopping her with a hug and a kiss

Kevin is a fucking visionary.

>>155846471
>Peter helps Jean learn to control the phoenix
>Jean uses the phoenix to burn the symbiote off of Peter

>>155842832
It's because spiderman is the most popular ip in the entire world. It was never going to flop no matter if it was Tom Holland, or anyone else. The fags here are only into this because it's spiderman

>>155847619
That's why this spiderphoenix stuff is pure delusion. Their ship will never be canon

>>155847645
It'd feel fanficcy if these two characters starting making out in the middle of some capeshit crisis, so I don't really want spiderphoenix to be canon the way most shippers do. I just want the relationship/dynamic between these characters to end mattering as much as Brand New Day seemed to suggest it would matter.

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>>155845615
Probably, got some tv and some Andy and Leyley threads in there, didn't feel like sorting them out.

>>155847536
That would be peak love storytelling. I wish they would just place Jean with the Spider and ignore the x-men stuff.

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>>155842800
To me its this one because I imagine myself in Peter's place

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>>155843281
>I'm ready to be completely lost watching Doomsday
I might not even watch it, unless there're hints of Spidey and Jean having heavy fully uncensored sex full of closeups to Jean's holes as Peter erupts and floods her v-max with hot, virile, sticky "web fluid" as Jean leg locks him. Otherwise, they lost me when they made black Kang.
I still can't believe we went from this
https://youtu.be/ZqRC9QcXh-k
To the shit the MCU gave us.

A one sided crush from Jean would be fine for me

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>>155843281
I'm not even sure what the phases are anymore, or what counts for what.
I didn't see The Eternals because it looked lame, I saw Chang-Shi but remember nothing of it, not a single scene. The last TV series I saw was Daredevil I think, did they do a Skrull show? I thought they did a Ms Marvel show but I didn't see that one. I saw Wandavision but I skipped the followup witch show. I liked Thunderbolts, I'm probably in the minority there. The last Spiderman with Jean was cool, I liked Punisher and Hulk being prominent in the plot since it's all one big shared universe after all. Raimi Doctor Strange was alright, some dumb shit but some cool shit too.
Uh, what else. The Hawkeye show? I liked that girl from Bumblebee, 'salright.
Fuck me this shit needs an excel spreadsheet to follow at this point.

>>155848086
>Fuck me this shit needs an excel spreadsheet to follow at this point.
truly the MCU is following in the footsteps of comics

>>155845122
The mutant supremacist seethes if you ask her about her mutate boyfriend

>>155848113
>truly the MCU is following in the footsteps of comics
Oh god they're going to reset the entire thing pretty soon, aren't they

>>155845186
>>155845191
this gets me rock hard in a way normal raceplay never has and orientation play always does

It would be funny if in a future movie Jean needs to be told Peter isn't a mutant

Unless they pull a TAS and call him one anyways

>>155848196
>orientation play
What is that?

>>155848392
it's when a lesbian gets curious about cock so they ask a male friend to fuck them, or the classic "I'm not gay but 20 dollars is 20 dollars" scenario.

>>155848201
In this X-Mansion he's an honorary mutant and ally.

616:
Peter is Jean's first kiss ever
Peter and Jeans clones are allies
Peter and Jean worked for Shield once where their job was just to hang out together
Peter became one of the X men


1610
Peter imagined Jean nude

Ultimate cartoon:
Wolverine acknowledges that MJ is a redhead like Jean

Mangaverse:
Biggest stories were about Jean or Peter
2026 Finale was about Miles and X23 harnessing the symbiote and Phoenix force

Red Band:
Peter and Jean are the last man and woman alive. Bonded to the Symbiote and Phoenix

i've been reading some of the comics and this Phoenix entity stuff is shit bro, just let Jean be crazy or unstable simply because it's her character trait don't introduce silly plot powers to cause it

>>155848970
Correct me if I'm wrong but most X men fans hate the Phoenix because it's always the same story

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Homeless psychopathic psychic women were made for fascist vigilante men

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>>155849857
Jean Grey is truly the perfect girlfriend
>>155847865
That's a good way to get a faceful of webbing down your throat

I'm so tired of the first generation avengers honestly. Their story was over already

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>>155849890
Agreed, though the 2nd gen was also boring. I started to enjoy it from Spidey onwards.
I wish they had a hotter black widow too. Yelena holds no candle to Natasha both looks and acting wise.

>>155850078
>>155849882
How come redheads are always best girls? What about blondes? Who is the hottest Marvel blonde besides original not trannified Gwen Stacy?

>>155850098
i regularly jork my shit to the marvel rivals versions of sue and emma

>>155850441
Gotta admit Sue is really hot. Never been a fan of Emma but for some reason I'm a fan of Jean

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Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ4an60Zmvc

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaYQ8Rr25i8
Waiting for Peter to heal

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>I found a place where I'm not alone
>Tore down the gates
>Took all my pain and made a weapon
>錆ひとつない 触らせやしない 媚びる気はない
>I found a place that I can call home
>Tested my fate
>Took all my pain and made a weapon
>連れ行くその場所は、
>Stranger than heaven

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>>155850441
>>155850582
Sue is amazing, I wish she started hanging out with Jean

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAGyyLaaCDc

This Movie was dog shit but everything with Sadie, Zendaya and Tom was both interesting and well done. I can see why you guys like this ship.

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>>155850949
They make such a fun team!

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>>155851074
Oh fuck watching her psycho like that makes me so horny. Please please let her remain at least somewhat evil and psychotic

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>>155851102

>>155851074
The Jean vs Magneto 1v1 is gonna be really good once Magneto figures out Peter made the inhibitor chips.

Jean blushing is interesting to me because we don't actually know how she acts in tender moments. She spent the entire movie in superiority mode. The chat on the bed was her cooling down from absolute rage. I can't imagine her happily going "HEY PETER!" from this point on. I feel like she saves that cocky attitude for enemies only.

sorry it's just really funny to me how Jean spends 95% of the movie just seething at Peter treating him like he's Damage Control's attack dog, but 5 minutes inside his mind is enough for her to go calm down and then become hysterical and panicked once he gets hurt

>>155851773
I imagine her as quiet and earnest with Peter.

>>155851778
I was thinking about that while watching it yesterday. It almost feels like she took so much offense at being called dangerous that she just decided to pile on as much effort as possible into humiliating him and hurting him and trying to break him while threatening to penetrate his brain and then when he gave her one little taste she was overwhelmed by the power of the human spirit
And then she's all
>NO NO NO NO NO PETER PLEASE DONT GO PLEASE
When you look at frank getting his gun ready too, it doesn't seem like their mind conversation was that long

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>>155851773
I hope she retains a rough side to her personality, to fit how fiery she is.

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>>155851778
Reminds me of Peter interacting with Jean's daughter

>>155851778
she fell in love with his mind

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Just stole Emma's entire fucking flow

>>155852275
I still find Jean hotter

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>>155852882
That's fair, but MA Emma had a "hot older girl bully" thing going on.

>>155853045
The way Peter is just annoyed to fight her is so cute. Peter vs teen villains is fun when they don't over do it like 2017

>>155853215
Peter meeting heroes and villains his own age is actually really cool, it just sucks when there's like five or more spider heroes like him

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>>155850696
>I understood loneliness and I understood what love is.
>Using all my senses, I will save you.
>That means I'll save myself, too.
>In the end, we are both two humans.

>Going beyond an "I love you".
>So, I think I'm not alone anymore.
>If I'm "upbeat", the darkness will lift.
>While I hold your words close to my heart.

>When the wound in my chest starts to ache.
>What will I sacrifice, and what will I save?
>Maybe everything is inevitable.
>My justice is already here.

>I breathe and I'm aware
>That the intense pain of living has meaning, I believe.
>At the same time,
>I face a helplessness that I battle everyday.

>I try to surprise myself.
>I just try to update myself.
>Singing and swinging in the rain.
>While I hold your words close to my heart.

>Cocoons surround people's dreams.
>I held hope within my hands.
>I take another look at the mirror.
>And now I'm a brand new me.

>Going beyond an "I love you".
>So, I think I'm not alone anymore.
>If I'm "upbeat", the darkness will lift.
>While I hold your words close to my heart.

>I try to surprise myself.
>I just try to update myself.
>Singing and swinging in the rain.
>While I hold your words close to my heart.

>Going beyond an "I love you".

>So, I think I'm not alone anymore.

>>155854399
I truly love this song!

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Will the MCU ever include a sex scene?

>>155856596
the netflix shows that frank was in all have sex scenes with nudity and thrusting

all you need is to get peter into one of those shows with jean

>>155856596
Jean is so hot like that
>>155856643
Man I hope so!

Do the organic webs still have the two hour time limit or is Peter just leaving webs fucking everywhere for others to clean up now? Also, why is his suit so durable? It's not made from Stark tech anymore, right? It's crazy how well it holds up.

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Sink's interview with Variety really puts some stuff into perspective when it comes to Jean. About how she only knew violence, how she suspected Sara was already gone, how much she resented "Peter Parker" mostly for thinking he could have a normal life.
>https://variety.com/2026/film/features/sadie-sink-jean-grey-interview-spider-man-brand-new-day-x-men-1236829644/
But I think what I found most interesting is that Tom and Sadie rehearsed every scene where Jean is possessing someone next to each other, and then sent the footage to the possessed's actors.
>Tom and I did rehearsals, and then we had a full day where we shot every single scene where I’m talking through someone else — we have that on camera, somewhere — as a reference to send to all of the actors who had a line.
Including Zendaya.
>you can kind of see how people are like carrying it or mimicking me in certain ways — Zendaya, especially. I hadn’t seen her scene until I watched it for the first time, and it’s so cool to see that.
Which means there's footage of "Jean" hugging "Peter" somewhere out there (they probably skipped the kiss if we are being real).

>>155858391
It really seems that Sadie gets along very well with her co-stars, hope her friendship with Zendaya and Tom stays

>>155858391
Wow I had no idea about all that. I truly love her

>>155856596
they already have in Eternals

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>>155856596
What would the reactions be if we get Jean and Peter making sweet passionate love onscreen? I imagine this general would actually get extended for a few years and flood /co/ for a few days. Outside reactions would be even crazier.

anal with jean grey

>>155858391
>she only knew violence
I suspected this was her characterization for a while. People have been arguing about if she's just an asshole but it's VERY CLEAR this Jean not only didn't have Xavier but didn't have any proper teaching of any kind. She was left to her own devices and is basically acting on the law of the jungle.

>>155858391
>they probably skipped the kiss if we are being real
Can you fucking imagine?
>Hey, this is how I kiss your husband. You need to copy this so it looks like I’m possessing your body

>>155842827
>but what about Miles?
Fuck off

>>155860414
I hope the MCU dies before they start thinking about Holland's replacement.

what's the appeal of this disgusting hobo ginger

>>155861189
she's a cute redhead

you guys realize comics are a literal Mossad propaganda campaign from the very start right? might as well read the talmud you’ll get about the same amount of enjoyment you stupid slave people.

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>>155861793
kek I really like that pic. Also the fact Jean keeps looking like a hobo makes her hotter

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>>155861793
Damn Jean is a nasty bitch! And I love her for that

>>155842929
that cartoon was ASS.
But that MJ was S-tier

>>155860093
kekaroo i don't think z will be fine with that

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>>155861793
stop calling zendya MJ!!!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>155842929
My MJ...

>>155858391
Did she make out with tom during these "rehearsals"

>>155863001
nope, sadie is a good girl

It's funny because if this character is not an adult, she absolutely will be one by the time she sets foot in the X Mansion, nullifying the point of aging her down

if Peter and Jean become acquaintances or don't interact at all, Brand New Day's third act is going to seem unusually personal for these two characters for no real reason lol

>>155863619
Imagine Wanda Maximoff dies but Clint has no reaction because he's being used to set up another her-

>>155863864
kek

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>>155863400
The point of "aging her down" (or, at least, keeping her young enough) was so that she would be the audience's surrogate over the loneliness problem both her and Peter face through the movie
>We wanted an antagonist that would be a real reflection of Peter Parker and where he is in his emotional journey.
>We went through a lot of potential villains and I cannot think of a better reflection than where we landed.
>I was really interested in having our antagonist be somebody who is younger than Peter. Who really represents, in many ways, what young people are going through right now and what they are feeling.
>This is a character who can literally jump into other people's minds, and experience the lives of other people, but she's also a person who is completely alone in this city and nobody really knows the REAL her, and that feeling, to me, felt like a young person's experience.
>https://podcasts.apple.com/tr/podcast/spider-man-director-destin-daniel-cretton/id214089682?i=1000782790195
So, yeah, there's no point in keeping her like that anymore (if she ever was that young in the first place).
>>155863001
I don't think they did either way, but I am curious as to how much they count as "possession" when rehearsing.
Did they only act out the scenes where Jean already made herself evident, or did Sink have to pretend being the other characters, too?
>>155863619
I mean, I'm almost sure as hell we're not seeing the Punisher again, despite how personal that talk in the hospital got, too.

I'm really starting to buy into the whole "Marvel movies aren't actually art" argument...

>>155863619
Don't be surprised if this happens.

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>>155842758
>Looks like we’ve hit 40 threads on this topic; quite the milestone for a ship that began from the MCU
Well it was spammed religiously, especially by mcu shills

Are you really that surprised???
especially when the jean grey defenders on twitter flocked here to defend this version right after the movie dropped?

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>>155863965
Name one thing Jean did wrong

>>155864008
sadie's cute dance

>>155864008
Fuck she's great!

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>>155863893
They aren't. But this dynamic is really neat and somehow snuck in, meaning it does regrettably warrant my attention

The whole "Teen" hurdle is something that is a thorn in the side of this ship

>>155864148
If you stop arguing with children on twitter, you'd see that nobody cares about that. Sadie Sink and Tom Holland both look like they're simultaneously 16 and 31.

>>155864177
which is funny because sadie is most likely hitting 30 by the time she's actually a fully fledged x man

>>155864177
Yup, if Tom were single many more people would be shipping him with her despite the age gap

>>155864227
Funny because her sister looks older and she's the real teenager.
>>155864232
He seems to be regretting marrying Zendaya now.

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>>155864148
Mostly because, when you hear the word "teenager" you don't exactly picture the early or late ends of the overall age range (13 -19, or even 10 - 20 if it expands to the overall definition of "adolescence").
The average person will pivot to the middle ranges, which is 15/16.
>>155864177
Funny how they both have a scene playing younger versions of their characters in this movie, too.

>>155848154
Soft Reset after SW was already confirmed by Feige.

>>155864594
They are the best together

>saw clip of Sadie referring to Jean as a teenager
Damn…

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>>155864594
Is Sadie's face made to look younger in the flashback? It's the primary look for her in promotions but feels like it's not quite her.

>>155866717
Punisher refers to Peter as a kid even though the nigga's hairline is receding and he has crow's feet
don't think about it too much

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Peter...

Jean is probably around 19. All of the cartoons debut her in her 20s except X Men Evolution where she's 18 at the start of the series. I'm guessing 19, not for ship copium but because she seems incredibly world weary for a kid

>>155864148
what does it matter how old Jean is? she's not sleeping with anyone in the story nor is someone taking advantage of her via her age

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>>155865798
I still don't understand her fashion sense

>>155868870
>what does it matter how old Jean is?
The MCU would very likely factor in age difference when deciding whether to pair her and Peter together.

>>155844565
>And from what I've heard, this is Jean's last appearance in a Spiderman movie? What the fuck? Was the last 10% of the movie written by completely different writers?
It's so over...

>>155869841
kek

>>155868972
Yeah me neither, those pants are ugly!

>>155872221
the pants are COOL

So Jean was using telekinesis on his heart for 3 days to keep him alive?

How bad did the bullet fuck him up?
I thought those spidey suits were bulletproof.

>>155842827
no. simply no.

>>155872926
the suit's just cloth

>>155873253
But... it's spider-man and the phoenix!

>>155872926
Only the iron spider and the black and red suit from FFH are bullet proof. You can see the materials are different too.

>>155872926
No, afaik it was mind control to force his heart to pump

>>155872926
she was possessing him

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>>155873523
That was fucking intimate. Did any fanfic explore how it must have felt for Peter to have Jean's mindcock inside his thoughtpussy?

>>155873584
there is a lot of fanart showing jean watching the events of previous movies while she breathes for him

>>155873584
wasn't it explicitly said people remember nothing while they're possessed

i'm pretty sure their minds are totally suppressed

>>155873706
True, but the standards of Jean's abilities don't really apply to Peter. When she entered his mind, you see both of their bodies paralyzed but he is still conscious

I'm pretty sure the gunshot damaged his ability to breathe on his own somehow. She was using her powers like a ventilator for him.

>>155868972
Slight alt-girl with a classic pair of ugly-cute pants. Favorite colors might be yellow/green or she's just into earth tones.

The fact that Damage Control clearly replaced her shitty clothes and she still retrieved them instead of getting new God damn clothes

Still waiting on that SpiderPhoenix visual novel game thing.

>>155873773
Jean is so broken she can pretty much do anything and it will be comic accurate

Wait a fucking minute

So if Happy remembers Aunt May, don't MJ and Ned also remember frequenting her house??????

>>155875242
Damn, had no idea that's supposed to come out

>peter hiiiii :D

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>>155874197
Maybe is a neo-punk? I've seen a return to hippie stuff so I'm waiting for a return of punk and goth fashion. I know goth never really left but punk hasn't had much of a comeback

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>>peter hiiiii :D

>>155876953
She got a really cute face. Do you think any other redhead would have worked for Jean?

>>155877092
Worked for Jean? Maybe someone else could've.
But I think Sadie Sink had just the right mix of beauty and brittleness and harshness.

>>155876953
i want a sadie gf

>>155876953
She's so insanely cute and pretty that it somehow wraps around her not being sexy. It's hard to explain. A bit like Jenna Coleman.

>>155877621
somehow wraps around to*

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>>155877632
I want Jean's lips wrapped around my cock!

I wanna be bad~

>>155877092
Sadie is the perfect MCU Jean.
As what >>155877592 mentioned, she also has the sass which makes her cute

>What if Sara May "Mayday" Parker was Cable

>>155878236
That'd be cute, if its with Jean!

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>>155877621
Jean can just motorboat Peter instead.

>>155873584
I still can't forgive them for taking out Spectacular Spiderman

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>>155877892
You make bad feel so good~

jean grey naizuri

>>155877824
kissing sadie's abs!

>>155880940
MOUTH RAPE

notice how the scooping ice cream motion simulates jean's tongue aggressive scooping and slobbering all over the inside of Peter's mouth like an industrial excavation tool

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>>155880940
This monster is devouring Spider-Man’s soul and you’re all gushing over her.

>>155882017
she's just performing CPR

>KIDDO WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING
>I'm just breathing for peter mphphphashlopshlopshop
>GET OFF OF HIM YOU WEIRD LITTLE SHIT
>mpmphhphph

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>>155882122

If it wasn't for friendly neighborhood being guaranteed to run for another 3 more SEASONS we would probably get Jean in a spidey cartoon for synergy
friendly neighborhood is stuck as a late 2010s MCU synergy show due to is development hell

>>155882476
at least Gwen's gonna be Peter's love interest, right? Right??

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>>155882476
Then again that show looks offputting. I wouldn't mind a elseworlds where the versions take heavy cues from this. I know Jean and the X-Men are adults in that Midnight horror series but it does have Hope.

>>155882647
The show is extremely boring and bogged down by generic friendly dynamics across the board

Just watched the film, it was pretty shit. The Sarah stuff wasn't very emotive and Jean and Spider-Man were never anything close to being romantic. Also Jean should have Elfen Lied Damage Control.

>>155883088
Ok.

Just watched the film, it was pretty amazing. The Sarah stuff was very emotive and Jean and Spider-man had incredible sexual tension. Also Jean should have married him.

>>155883338
>she is tasting his tongue telepathically

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Just watched the film. It was okay. Punisher was too quippy uncle and the villains should have had more of a presence. Jean and Spider-Man should have had more scenes; she was a fun villain. She also should be in prison

Now that they are friends, I just want to see a movie where they go on an adventure together. Just one time.

Everyone says the mere act of possessing people was evil on jean's part but forgets the time charles pulled the exact same move in days of future past

>>155883623
Anyone who cares about that is a fag, not that whataboutism about Charles makes it better, they are simply above regular humans which gives them a level of leeway.

>>155877824
That better be a season 5 screenshot or else you're a sick fuck

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>>155883455
Sara funeral road-trip so they can bury her in their original hometown (Red Hook)
>>155884839
Just take a look at the background...

Haven't they kind of written themselves into a corner with this one?

They showed Peter's relationship with MJ as negative and effectively cut it off at the roots. They even gave MJ a boyfriend.
Then they created a deep emotional bond between Peter and Jean and proved how strong it was by literally having him jump in front of a bullet for her.
If they don't proceed with this relationship then nothing is going to make sense moving forward.

>>155885102
Peter returning to MJ would be backtracking, and anything Marvel tries with Jean and Scott would feel like PeterJean diet for people who can't stomach it

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What would Peter and Jean’s favorite pastime activity together be?

>>155886715
Watching old movies

This ship has the same energy as Kakashi x Sakura

>>155887049
To me its Naruto x Sasuke
>>155886715
Sex

>>155887049
Its naruto and sasuke but straight, especially with how the interviews explain it

In the comics, the hand are immune to mind control

>>155842758
BEST SHIP!!!

>>155887049
Sakura tried to kill Kakashi?

>>155887049
There's a hentai doujin of Sakura and Kakashi having sex and it's pretty emotional and it makes it hot.

>>155887994
How powerful are they? I had never heard of them

Did malfoid kill this ship?

>>155890886
yes, malfoid is cuter and hotter

>>155885102
Yeah if Brand New Day was written slightly differently and it was an X-Men movie where it was Scott comforting Jean, I might be a Jott shipper right now.

But we got a Spider-Man/Jean Grey movie so now if they try to do Jott, I would probably think about how much better PeterJean would be.

>>155890886
Malfoid is our sister ship

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New funko pop BND Jean Grey. Waiting for an official lego minifig though so I can make her and my lego Spider-Man minifig hold hands and kiss.

At least new Jean Grey merch is finally coming.

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after deciding they'd had enough of new york, peter and jean struggle to adapt to the brazilian way of life

i'm kinda surprised I don't see people crying* about spidey dating a teenager in this ship, but that just makes it hotter

*not here obviously you freaks won't care, myself included

>>155891962
sadie sink is 24, and the characters are not dating

>>155891984
yeah but Jean Grey the character in the movie is a teenager and Spidey is old enough to be living in an attic by himself.

>>155892069
kevin feige said the character is near peter's age or slightly younger
>and Spidey is old enough to be living in an attic by himself
this means nothing. i know 15 year olds who live in an attics by themselves

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>>155873369
the first name of this ship was PETERJEAN
and that will be the ONLY valid spiderpohoenix.

trying to write fics when your brain has been completely rotted by the internet is fucking impossible

i'm typing and trying to stay focused and my muscle memory keeps making me switch tabs or refresh the catalog or check discord every 30 seconds, it's like a tic i can't control

i should shut down the computer and start writing this shit on paper

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>>155890886
Nah, the threads and feed of art was slowing earlier. Maybe we'll see more of it around the BD release and/or Doomsday. Malfoid is obnoxious though. The ship is a generic school tsundere romance I've seen a million times. I hate Harry Potter even more than the MCU. Garbage that refuses to die. I don't hate artists for drawing it. It's just a trend like the Frieren looking up angle or Bowsette or hell even Petra Parker.

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>>155892380
Ultimately though, no more brother wars.

>>155892380
>Blu-Ray release in December
>goes on Netflix in December
>Peter & Jean post-credits scene in Doomsday

Would be enough to feed on and continue the conversation.

I ship Petra/Johnny ngl

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>>155885102
>>155891247
It also doesn't help that Scott's original bonding has to do with him acknowledging Jean's mistakes and still choosing to stand by her side.
He might only get a leg over Peter due to continuous exposure now.

>>155892380
It had to happen, I mean this ship has been going for over a month

>>155892847
>over a month
nearly 3 months now

>>155892525
Jesus Ultimate Jess gets no respect huh

>>155891922
I hope Blokees will make Jean considering China is one of the bigger supporters.

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>>155891926
Another AI kino just dropped. Nice!

peter dinklage talked about this, why are they always in barbeques

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>>155892092
But... it's Spider-man (Miles) and The Phoenix (X23) Isn't that close enough?

>>155893938
The fact that the AI keeps sourcing strange things and as a result renders Sadie Sink with her 12 year old face

>>155893353
She is amazing, Sadie got such an interesting face. She is cute and sexy

>>155892935
Oh shit never knew about Blokees before, looks cool though.

Any anon or users still making cool spiderphoenix stuff?

>>155895082
i'm writing and updating my fic all the time

>>155895082
I'll probably write a quick SpiderPhoenix one shot after I complete my Life is Strange fic

>>155895082
I have a vision, I just don't have the talent required to fulfill that vision so gotta work on that first.

>>155895691
if you're talking about writing, don't try to bruteforce it by writing chapter per chapter. just write a quick outline/summary of story points and scenes and expressions you wanna use, get a lot of them, put them in the correct order, and only then try writing sentences that actually sound good
that's how i do it at least

>>155895082
I’m drawing another SpiderPhoenix piece; I’ve already done 13 drawings of the ship.
Last week, I tried drawing Malfoid, but the concept didn't really click with me though it was fun to do something different.
I’d like to draw something NSFW featuring PeterJean but idk

>>155896354
Nice

>>155895082
My AI SpiderPhoenix series pilot episode is still in work and has just two last scenes left (I switched to pricier subscription and the work accelerated).
I'm going to post a clip tomorrow

The most powerful character moment for me is Peter trying to look strong for Jean at the end. A massive bullet hole has destroyed his back and he still tries to give a "Heh, don't worry about it" smirk but you can see that his face just can't force it. He's done.

>>155898088
it showed how much he's grown since his death in Infinity War

>>155899212
Jean is so lewd!

>You looked me up. I'm blushing!

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>>155899957
I love that line from her, she is so hot

>>155893938
>>155891926
Stop making this shit you falseflagger all you're doing is make the ship look bad obsessed dickhead, get of Zendayas dick.