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QOTT: Gender swap one boy and one girl character in the story, what changes?

Last session: >>155885296 (Cross-thread)

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>>155900740
this has to be on fucking purpose
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First for prospitcest <3 <3 <3
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>>155900740
turn john into my pookie juney... then make gamzee a girl because clown girls are always hot
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>>155900725
Jade Harley for sure. Also Equius and Dirk too. All the tech savvy guys loooove Physicslop. I know cuz i do.
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>>155900740
wrong last thread
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Wich homestuck character i should kinmaxx if i want to get good at mathmatics/chemistry shit? i need to get good but i need sum inspo from my muses too.
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>>155900778
what is kinmaxx
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we now have 3 threads on the catalog
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>>155900740
Corrected last thread >>155896961
>QOTT: Gender swap one boy and one girl character in the story, what changes?
I'd swap Eridan and Aradia. You might think these to be random and they are but it would make homestuck way more gay.
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>>155900778
None of them are any good at science
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>>155900791
male aradia is terrifying
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>>155900778
Equius or Jade
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>>155900793
kills myself. ngmi.
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>>155900802
What's wrong with him?
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>>155900784
kinning but like doing it so hard it actually makes you improve in yourlife. i just made this term up btw.
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>>155900802
male aradia would be fucking HOT. HOT AS FUCK

i would love a morbid shota.
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>>155900802
also lmao I found this too
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>>155900791
>it would make homestuck way more gay.
Male Aradia makes it gay with Sollux and Equius but straight with Vriska so +1 to gaynes
Female Eridan makes it gay with Feferi, and Vriska and straight with Sollux also +1 to gayness

Math checks out you made homestuck +2 gay
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>>155900826
so cool
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>>155900826
he's too hot, needs to be grosser
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OK!!!! PROSPITCEST REREAD 800-1000 IS A GO.

This block of pages was PACKED TO THE GILLS. And it is very sweet that the last page i read was a john and jade interaction, very sweet indeed.

But lets get to the meat of this retrospective. Hussie is going FULL FORCE with his foreshadowing and teasing for future developments, both dream kingdoms have made their visual debuts, though prospit is still only viewed in the lense of Jade's room, while derse is seen in full gothic glory. Meanwhile Rose is busy trying not to die and discovering the secrets of "Ectobiology" a concept which of course becomes way more important later on.

I would like to highlight Mom/Roxy's weird arrested development in regards to her little girls room she has in her lab. Of course this has to do with how she is for the most part, trying to play the character of a housewife/mother/woman in general (this isn't me going on to say she is trans, but that this is a theme for Roxy and rose, dealing with femininity as a nebulous concept). It is just interesting that Rose is forced to confront her mother as a multifaceted and complicated person while also seeing something as ridiculous as a hot pink tea set.

Other than that, we get a karkat pesterlog, hes a dickhead, and John rapidly ascends the echeladder and becomes more adept in the weird world of sburb. And also Dave is getting his ass handed to him on a silver platter.

uhhhh other than that not much to say, check out the notes and if you have any comments feel free. I love to talk about it :D
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>>155900847
>Male Aradia beating up Vriska
Ryonafags eating good
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>>155900925
so fun
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>>155900740
Tavros as a girl and Vriska as a guy.
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>>155900982
I think my favorite part is doing the cringe little in character commentaries of screenshots.

Like why am I doing that? No reason really, bit it's fun when I wanna point out cool shit without having a "point"
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>>155900740
>Gender swap one boy and one girl character in the story, what changes?
Rose would change her entire dynamic with Kanaya.
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>>155900740
Swapping Vriska and Tavros would highlight some pretty specific things about her character that are irredeemable
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>>155900925
Based reread notes, I really do like the pace from around this time stuff was happening
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Speaking of rereads, we're up to page 2800 tonight
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>>155901052
That she wants to be a rapist really badly?
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>>155900925
I've always felt like the pink room was just where Momma Roxy was raised herself not that she was trying to larp as a little girl again
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>>155901106
this makes no sense
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this is still up kek >>155896963
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>>155901106
All we know about Mom at that point is that she works at the lab next door and she has some weird preferences

It gets particularly weird when Mom shows up later in John's ectobiology shenanigans just happening to pass by a bookstore ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COUNTRY
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>>155901118
she was raised in that lab and just never got rid of her childhood stuff
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>>155901147
dead as hell kek
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>>155901106
Age regressing Mom lalonde erotic uohhhh
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>>155901157
That seems more weird and reveals less about her character than if this was her intentionally building a safe mental space for her because her entire existence is either work in the form of science or a false facsimile of a normal house wife life. And alcohol.
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Hallucinating
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>>155901181
you are looking too deep into it
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>>155901181
>or a false facsimile of a normal house wife life. And alcohol.
She actually is just a normal house wife Rose was overthinking it
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>>155901187
based. is this a slow damage reference
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>>155901195
Well the series itself puts it under a retroactive microscope.

The original reading if the scene when first viewing it is "wow this busty bombshell has weeeeiiiirrd interests!" Which is the whole gimmick with all of the guardians, they pretend to be normal but are actually eccentric and zany, of course dad Egbert is the exception because he's the opposite.
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>>155901209
I don't know what Slow Damage is but if it has wound fingering give me the details
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>>155901201
Is she? Even without the gender ideas making everything complicated the obvious reading is "this lady is so rich that she uses her money to live a fake life"

She has guilded vacuums and certificates stamped in blood for her daughters fresh supply of plastic magnet w's. Clearly her being rich is part of her being completely out of touch. Which even if rose is overreacting and doesn't know her mother at all, is still *Roxy's fault* for never communicating well enough. Which is the ultimate folly of all of the guardians, even dad.
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>>155901201
>the narrative was wrong it was just rose being skeptic
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>>155901244
and i hear them say that meat roxy has no basis
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>>155901224
oh i feel like you'd totally like it, it's a blvn and the mc is into self harm.
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>>155901244
Roxy is trying really hard to be a good mother and so all those games of one-ups-manship is just her trying to do right by her daughter dave said it right when he talked about how she probably just likes wizards and there's nothing deep to it
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>>155900740
>QOTT: Gender swap one boy and one girl character in the story, what changes?
swap the cherubs. the big bad of the stort is now lady english- a literal retarded misandrist. watch hussie get hung from the gallows
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>>155901292
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>>155901292
w-what is she gonn do to her here?
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>>155901300
but she does a bad job at it. rose says she gives her gifts but she doesnt actually care for rose
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what do i need to do to get a boyfriend like liu? kidnap?
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>>155901329
Rose is just stupid you need to understand that
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>>155901318
this >>155901313
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>>155901329
well rose is wrong and so is john and dave, thats kind of the point
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>>155901285
Word? Mayhaps I'll look into it.
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>>155901341
>dave and rose are wrong about their parents
did mom and bro pay you to say this?
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>>155901300
Well sure, even if you wanna say there's nothing "deep" to it. That also doesn't mean it's not simple. Roxy loves Rose. Dirk loves Dave. But they are both terrible, terrible parents, who have no idea what their children want or need.

Roxy is a fool who thinks she can *buy* her daughters love. She thinks she can do right by her by giving her material gifts. Do you not see how damaging this is to someone like rose? She is so skeptical because her house life is fake and devoide real connection,

Rose is an asshole, but she is the way she is entirely because of Roxy. There is a direct correlation between Roxy being a bad parent and Rose being such an uppity skeptic.
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>>155901354
well in act 6 dave will be right about bro, but right now he is just glazing the guy
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>>155901341
Rose, Dave, and John are all wrong because they don't know their parents. They are wrong because they assume things about them from what they see.

But the reveal is that they don't know their parents. But whose responsibility does this fall to, the children? Of course not, it's the parents. Their failure as parents are linked to the failures of the children
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i noticed i get like this when i feel underwhelmed and lazy and bored. hmmmm.
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>>155901345
noo why would she do that.
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>>155901345
there's a sex scene where he hallucinates he has bugs under his skin and tries to cut them out, which is why i asked. your liu art has been fantastic either way, loved all of it
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>>155901362
Bro and Mom are fine parents they can't help that their kids are overthinking retards you know if Mom sat rose down she'd not believe any words said and look for some deeper meaning
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>>155901403
I think the opposite of this. Literally every problem in Homestuck would be resolved if everyone sat down and talked about their feelings, as lame as that is. Because the cast of this story are usually just kids/and parents not understanding one another and lashing out because of it.

The only acceptions are basically the main villains.
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>>155901379
I mean bro IS a really cool guy too
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>>155901382
sure the parents dont communicate, but still, look at things from her perspective, she is trying to connect with her daughter through her interests, while rose simply take then as slights against her , sure mom can be playful about it but I don't think she is a specially terrible parent or anything.
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>>155901383
hhhhhhh im going to draw liu tomorrow.
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>>155901403
guardians cant talk in the first place
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>>155901403
dirk is definitly not a good parent, filming dave with smupet stuff, leaving that weird ass comic, dave is clearly having some sory of panic attack during those pages.
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>>155901428
yes he is the chill pedophile
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>>155901423
Maybe not talking about their feelings, but a lot of shit wouldnt be an issue if even half the cast knew how to properly communicate, but alas theyre kids, and kids are not exactly mature
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>>155901465
>filming dave with smupet stuff
this didn't happen as much as i wish it did
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>>155901504
calm your cock
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>>155901403
beq is the ONLY 100% good guardian unironically
dad egbert? smotherer
bro? abusive
mom lalonde? neglectful
they all of course are all still likable and truly loved their kid to at least some extent, but the fact remainds they weren't the best of caretakers
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>>155901513
it would make brodave way more hot, instead we just have sadstuck posturing about how bro sexually abused dave by keeping smuppets in the house
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>>155901465
Nah dave was fine
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>>155901530
who cares: go back read dave's early pages and actually pay attention to what he is saying this time
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>>155901438
She is a terrible parent but not a terrible person. Bro is a terrible parent *and* a terrible person.

Her main failure is again, her disconnectedness and her total out of touch-ness for lack of a better term. She either doesn't know her daughter, or doesn't have the ability to connect with her on a deeper level, and so her attempts aggravate and upset Rose. Rose is a highly sentimental and sensitive person, and she values when everything has a deeper meaning or sentiment attached. Roxy's style of loving someone is totally incompatible with Rose's and it causes a lot of issue. This is still technically a failure of Roxy as a parent, but not on a moral level, she tried her best, it just isn't enough. (thats usually why 2+ parents is necessary for a child's proper development, one usually just isn't enough no matter what)

>>155901478
yeeeep
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>>155901544
i think you're the one who needs to go back and read, you literally implanted memories of a hot fanfic you read into the actual comic
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>>155901476
god I love him for it
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>>155901530
>>155901542
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nzPX0XQR3j1mJTqrzj5S1roIz3PGScSKf85_RJuMyUg/edit?tab=t.0
go to page 11 and 12
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>>155901523
Beq number 1 gaurdian

well except the time he knotted jade but we can forgive that right guys :?
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>>155901398
I see, sound hot. Bugs crawling on/under your skin is a common hallucination from what I understand. And thank you, I get hooked real easily on that type of character.
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>>155901569
i am not opening your phishing google doccy link you freak
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>>155901584
"you are sort of starting to flip the fuck out"
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my reread is wilding i think i dropped my homestuck disk and fucked it up or smth
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>>155901523
Dad egbert wasnt that much of a smotherer, he just loved his son, who happened to be at a time in his life where he thought he was more grown up and independent than he actually was and found that affection to be patronizing, it happens, which is why later John realizes how much his father loved him
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>>155901569
Dave finding the puppets weird doesn't make them weird he only thought them weird because his friends implanted that idea into his head
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>>155901550
stop accidently explaining my relationship with my single mom and me! waa
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>>155901611
John definitely has the least bad situation, which is why he ends up being the most well adjusted. Its a minor misunderstanding rather than a huge foundational one.

And besides, it seems that in all material and most emotional manners Dad Egbert was the picture perfect parent. He was around, he played and developed John, stimulated him with hobbies and fun. And im pretty sure taught him everything he knows since hes homeschooled right? I forgot if thats canon or not, regardless barring that everything else is dont well by dad egbert.
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>>155901627
cope
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>>155901607
he freaks out because he's realizing his brother isn't actually cool. it's the dissolution of an idol
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>>155901653
you are coping, coping and seething
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>>155901660
i'm not even seething you weirdo i wish bro was fucking dave six ways sideways all day long every day 24/7 in the comic
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>>155901651
>don't tell john he might be right
It's John's fault
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>>155901682
he kinda of was in the videos. rose saw them. said he was in hella puppet ass
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>>155901682
>>155901689
the cope is actually crazy
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This is somewhat relevant to the QOTT, but between male Rose and male Vriska, which one would have more female fans?
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i am not sure why dirk dick riders exist, hussie could not have been more clear
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>>155901701
I WOULD SELL ONE OF YOU GUY'S SOULS FOR ROSS LALONDE DICK
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i am not sure why eridan dick riders exist, hussie could not have been more clear
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>>155901697
when does rose say this? i genuinely don't remember her saying anything past saying that she's seen the website and liked them
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>>155901303
You mean like this?
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>>155901611
not an extreme smotherer but a smotherer nonetheless. he overwhelmed his kid so much with cake he started to hate it. he overwhemled his kis so much with harlequins he started to hate it. he overwhelmed his kid so much with ministrifes he actively avoided him around the house. it's not the worst type of parent to be but it does leave an effect
t. my mother is a smotherer
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>>155901749
holy shit jill looks chopped
dale looks like a hamster I love it
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>>155901749
There goes Dale crashing out again
Check out that pile of dead Dales
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>>155901803
absolutely, which again would be solved if the cast knew how to communiate, the cake and dolls were an attempt on Dad Egberts side to give his son what he *thought* he liked, and John never expressed the contrary. If you assume his home life would go like Jane's, it would take like a year or two tops for him to confront his dad about it and them reaching an amiable middle ground like Jane did with her dad.
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>>155901701
Depending on the fans' taste.
>Male Vriska
would be a hit with girls who love psycho boyfriends and megalomaniacs. He'd be a wet dream for girls with mental illnesses.
>Male Rose
Would probably be more popular. Considering he is part of the main four. He'd be incredibly popular with all girls regardless, he'd have a good amount of fanboys too. He would be an goth, good looking, blonde twink. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if he'd be popular with all the troll girls too. Not to mention he'd be one of the smartest characters too.
All in all. They'd both have a plethora of female fans who'd have psycho fangirls.
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>>155901892
dad egbert meant well, yes, of course. but smothering nonetheless
also it's implied john WAS into cake before his dad made like 100 of them and he finally got sick of them. another effect of smothering
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vriska was born male and chose to be a woman so seeing all this male vriska posting ticks me off
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>>155901943
Male Rose would make my dick explode in a hundred pieces, so its a good thing hes not real
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>>155902075
>using the noncanon fanfic of a self-inserting cunt who hostilely defends every sin her 'literal me' kin as justified because it's otherwise a personal attack on them
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>>155902181
In fact, I think that if Rose was male, I would probably unintentionally copied the way he talks instead of Dave's back when I read homestuck for the first time as a teenager, and nowadays I'd just want to rail him
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>>155901701
Women love men who aren't bitches, Rose is absolutely NO bitch, but Vriska definitely is. Vriska raging at Aradia because she wanted to be friends with her again is bitch behavior, Vriska getting reeeeeeejected embarrassingly hard by fucking Tavros of all people is bitch behavior, Vriska almost getting brutally killed by Aradia in front her unrequited crush (TAVROS LOL) which ends with her getting spared is bitch behavior, Vriska getting all wishy washy because no one likes her or something is bitch behavior, and then it just keeps going and going. Vriska is fundamentally a bitch, if she was a dude then both man and woman alike would find her repulsive.
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>>155901803
sounds like you're projecting sort your own mental illness out first
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>>155902224
everything I pointed out is straight up said IN the comic wth are you on about. get a grip. it's ok for dad egbert to not be a perfect guardian he's still an overall good dad
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>>155901803
Dads great but hes not perfect. This is true
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>>155900740
>QOTT
SMELLY CLOWN PUSSY
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>>155900740
Take your pick
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>>155900740
Swapping both vriska and roxy would fix homestuck. Vriska because then hussie wouldnt ruin the story over his boner for her and roxy because then shes always a girl and doesnt have repressed transgenderism issues.
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>>155902547
the only good name for a genderswapped dirk is dyke strider. im sorry, its the rules.
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Do ANY of the troll women shave down there?
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>>155902633
Why would they, they didn't evolve from mammals
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>>155902633
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Time is best
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>>155902633
Areana
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>>155903041
For being cuckolds
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>>155901398
another anon taht played slow damage here
you will LOVE that vn literally the first arc has an extremely heavy focus on sh
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>>155903138
>>155901583
oh i replied to the wrong anon but you'll probably see this reply regardless
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>>155903041
what do space players even do? can't anyone else just do the forge and chase frogs or something?
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My brain is mushy
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>>155903213
The frogs can be done by anybody
It's the forge and banging the universe's mom that only the space player can do
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>>155900740
>>155902547
and another.
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>>155903305
the dynamic between a tavgirland vriskdude would be so controversial if it was real
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>>155903329
bad boy romantasy leads have been a thing since about 2015, homestuck would have been ahead of its time
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>>155903258
does rose know she's objectively the most beautiful character in homestuck
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>>155903329
don't forget the part where he forces fem sollux to take drugs then blow up her boyfriend.
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>>155903305
Just realized I made male Kanaya look like a troll Paul McCarthy.
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Maya Winchester
i got this oc and now im redesining her, accepting outfit suggestions, might do an adventure of her in here.
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>>155903611
Sombrero and a poncho pardner
She belongs to the streets
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>>155903630
street smart
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>>155903611
>>155903708
She kinda looks like a touhou mspfa character if that makes sense. Or at least very animu, probably because of the fully drawn eyes
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>>155903708
Trusty six shooter (not a big iron its too big for her)
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>>155903773
sometimes i forget that human characters has minimalistic eyes like rose.
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>>155903836
pew pew
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>>155904063
She knows how to juggle
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>>155901608
sis is stacked here
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>>155900740
Quit fucking up the subject
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>>155903305
Male versions looking absolutely chopped here



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