Could she have been worthy?>>155963389
https://pawchive.pw/fanbox/user/7442977/post/10818864Can't believe this fanart turned out canon
Poor Dantehttps://vt.tiktok.com/ZSghUK7Py/
>>155963653No
>>155963764She has to bathe wearing a swimsuit because of how they constantly peep on her
Enough to scare off a demon.
>>155963583I am certain she would be. That girl would turn the world upside down and break the seal that binds the ghosts to their own death origin
Catherine is so lucky to have a six-armed demon gentleman into her.
>>155963583It must be horrible to be a child forever, while your mind continues to age.
>>155964329It's also looks pretty cool.
>>155964346that's literally the best of both worlds
>>155964329this nigga served in a bar???
>>1559647796 arms good for it
>>155958498What the hell is his problem, and why did he lie to Abaddon?
How do malevolent ghosts work, and why do some have powers?Nathan doesn’t have any powers.
>>155964329>mfw>>155964779Autism be damned, my boy can work the bar
>>155965295Catherine REALLY feels alive around such a massive demon.
Since the other thread was archived, Imma post some of my HH arts here!The first thing he did after gaining powers was up his scaring game (he just picked very poorly his victim)
>>155965663I'm glad last thread really upped the rep for multi-armed demon'd up Abaddon.Good stuff anon!
>>155963940He wasn't scared he just assumed the hole would get her. If anything he was scared what he'd do to her. Literally in the flashback everyone he kills before he put them in the hole.>>155965663Based anon this turnt out great happy to see you really are learn the style well. Also abaddon scaring esther is art we need more of fits the funny esther bullying angle we had this season lol
That one anon from last thread was right, Death is voiced by Missy. Also, why is it that whenever Death shows up in media these days, they're always someone you want to fuck?
>>155964779What kind of cocktails do you think they serve in hell?
>>155965949You have to learn to accept death.
Honestly, I think they were kind of idiots when it came to Dante.He was just doing his job; it’s not his fault that the hotel happens to be the epicenter of evil.Besides, he saved Esther’s life—he saved the life of the Chosen One!—and these wretches repay him by betraying him.
>>155965980.......and that means you have to fuck Death?
>>155965949Speaking of her, anyone here knows why she appears when elemental spirits merge? What is the correlation?
>>155966167Ultimately it's just vague supernatural fantasy bullshit to fit the vibe of the kind of genre they were parodying.
Though True Form Abaddon likes to boast, he isn’t actually a master of the carnal arts.
>>155966018Dante will return
Just realized how tomboish young esther looks.
The comedy of True Form Abaddon trying to win Catherine over is the fact the hotel wasn’t designed for his body, at all.
>>155966039Hey, this is how you defeat her.
>>155966416in what sense?
>>155966327two dicks, though
>>155966488>looks
>>155966416>reads the Warrior booksI had grown out of YA books by the time they were popular, are they actually any good? They're still selling like hotcakes from what I've seen
>>155966167Something something supernatural MacGuffin. They were just a fancy plot device
>>155966497That’s enough to get innocent Catherine’s interest.
Jesus, you guys blew through that last handful of posts while I was asleep
>>155966416>coped with her parents' divorce by reading the warrior cat booksI can't imagine the insane shit she'd be into if it weren't for Abaddon
>>155963583I do wonder how she was planning to bring about a thousand years of darkness.>>155966018He definitely got done dirty but it’s only natural he’d clash with them eventually given what one of his inspirations was. Hope he doesn’t return as a villain.
>>155964329he’s only into her daughter though (much to her jealousy)
>>155966416That’s just Esther in generalIt’s about time we saw her in a skirt or something honestly
>>155966784She wants to go full Matrix on folks
>>155966416Weirdly she does feel more tomboyish here maybe it's why I've already seen a decent amount of art of this esther. Also because main esther looks like a little businessman with that big ole coat but it's cute too.>>155966824Based but if the theory of him having 2 dicks is true they both can get some. Also could esther even handle all that?
>>155966824You’re getting Catherine and Katherine mixed up. He’s only hit on Catherine in canon.
>>155966913The thread is hagmaxxing
>>155967018Demon Abaddon is a demon. He’s got unusual standards of beauty.
>>155966784>>155966018It's pretty fitting as a constantine parody that he frames things as world ending catastrophes when the majority of stuff he deals with ends up relating to his own personal drama
>>155967018
She's much hotter with her hair like this. Was kinda cute her flipflopping on her husband/soon-to-be-ex too.They're totally setting up him "abandoning her" only to actually be a ghost.
>>155967247Not sure how much larger than her True Form Abaddon is. 3 or 4 times?
>live in a world where the afterlife is confirmed to exist and its just.......more life>until you either blink out of existence or sink into an eternal hell of despairAnyone else here falling into unfathomable depths of existential dread? Or is it just me?
>>155967266 Imagine art of Katherine as a Demonized human like Esther.
>>155967296They had an afterlife you just need to make sure you don't have unfinished business or at least something easy
>>155967266>They're totally setting up him "abandoning her" only to actually be a ghost.God I hope not. Their terrible relationship is a good mundane counterbalance to the supernatural elements of the show.
>>155963583so is this shit actually good because it looks like Brickleberry tier slop from the visuals
>>155967296When writers try to outthink the concept of the afterlife they can't think of anything better than "the soul eventually just disappears" not realizing how infinitely more horrifying that is than if we just did not have souls at all.
>>155967266>They're totally setting up him "abandoning her" only to actually be a ghost.No they aren't. Esther even mentions he still responds to texts she sends. Just that he only responds with emojis. He's still alive and out there. He just doesn't care enough to show up.
>>155967335>>155967386One could argue the entire point of religion is to give us some semblance of control over something that is ultimately completely outside our purview. Almost all of them proclaim that whatver makes up "us" is something that lasts eternity without thinking out what eternity actually entails. Personally im of the opinion that whatever happens, the thing that is "you" effectively vanishes, and anything that does continue on isnt truly "you", or at least you are no longer aware of ever being "you". Be it reincarnation or afterlife or simply ceasing to be, it doesnt matter in the end. What matters is what you do now, today, with this thing called life that you find yourself existing within.
>>155967447>he only responds with emojisI'm sure there won't be a specific reason for that
>>155967648Yeah, there probably won't be.
Katherine is for ____________
>>155967447You know, I kinda want to do a fanfic about that. Like an episode of him coming to the hotel and while Esther first hates him and shouts but was craving fatherly love (as we all know), Ben wasn't that affected by him coming back until later in the episode where the dad wants to spend time with her and treats her like a princess but all that love is towards Esther and Esther alone.This could then evolve into Ben trying to talk himself into believing that it was only Esther who wanted to spend time with him, and that he helps too much in the hotel for a day off with him. Now for the conclusion would be Ben and Esther simply accepting that Nathan is a better father figure than anything their dad was, but I still don't know if I want to have a supernatural antagonist in this or be just a humane episode, nothing paranormal happening with them (in the mean time Abaddon is having the day of his eternal life until he gets bored because there's no one to play with)
>>155967296>>155967386>>155967601>no matter what you did in life or afterlife, anyone and everyone who moves on winds up in the same place>when you finish your business and blink out to the next life, you wake up to Hey, you, you're finally awake
>>155967694Of course of course, you never see call backs when characters make off-hand but unusual and specific comments about important story details...
>>155967601This is something that I hate whenever it flashes into my mind intrusively. Just the idea that death is a form of sheer nothingness that it's impossible to imagine. That you won't have a single thought anymore, forever. That you won't experience a single sensation ever again. That your existence is truly, definitively over. I can't help but just get stressed about it whenever it pops into my head.Anyways haha cartoons
>>155967956Well if you think about it, you've already experienced that, so to speak. There was a time where you did not exist, there will be a time where you do not exist again. So it goes....
>>155967867LEAVE ME ALONE, TODD!!!!
>>155967956Exactly. We NEED true, full immortality, NOW.
>>155968176>congratulations!>you achieved true immortality and will continue to exist literally forever!.........................then what?
So wait, how can Stabby Paul have a granddaughter that died of old age ten years earlier? He died in the 60's, yeah? My own mother was born in '63 and shes still going strong
>>155966874>>155966913i actually did mix them up but no reason he can’t have all 3 I guess…>>155967956>>155968112>>155967601it’ll be just like being in the womb again, no realization you’re even ‘gone’
>>155968112While I appreciate the sentiment, that non-existence before your birth doesn't really matter, because you've yet to experience the sensation of living. Death returns you to that nothingness, but now with the awareness of what you are losing.
>Be Anon>Be trudging through the lashing wind and rain, boots sliding against the cobblestone from the mud coating your feet>Your truck broke down on the side of the road>Your phone died before you could call for help>Luckily you managed to find a hotel nearby before it died>You continued your trek across the cobblestone and onto the porch that gave you the smallest relief from the weather, just enough to be able to see and grasp the door>Stumbling inside, you slam the door behind you, leaning against it to finally catch your breath>"Well, hey there, stranger!">You turn your head towards the cheerful greeting to see a chipper looking man in a blue sweater behind the front desk>With a deep breath you shuffle towards him, trying to exude an air of normalcy>Difficult to do with the stabbing pain in your leg from when you twisted your ankle in the mud>"Welcome to the Undervale! What can I do ya for?""Phone?">"Good guess, but no. I'm Nathan, I'm the co-owner-""N-no, I mean, do you have a phone? I could use?">"Oh! That makes more sense. We do have a phone, but they don't really-and you're just reaching over the desk to grab it, okay.">You put the receiver to your ear>No dial tone>"Yeah, as I was in the middle of saying, they don't really work in storms like this." Nathan says as you put the receiver back on the base"Can-can I use your phone, then?">"Don't got one.">You stare at Nathan>His positivity is grating like nothing else at the moment>You roll your jaw and swallow your frustrations"Is there...anyone in this place with a phone?">"Yes!">Finally>"Lemme just, uh...">You watch as Nathan carefully extricates himself from behind the desk, avoiding touching anything but the floor as he heads down some hallway, leaving you alone at the desk>Something tells you it's going to be a long night
>>155945964What a silly thing to say lol>>155945374>puritans were objectively terribleI wouldn't go that far but yeah it's clear there's a bit of bias going on in the case of redditors who show up for something like that
>>155968284>now with the awareness of what you are losingAre you, though? If awareness ends, how can you be aware of your loss of it?
>>155962757Going off the random screeching he was doing in hell, I’d imagine the actual language he speaks would turn a person crazy, like an even more incomprehensible version of Tongues.>>155962924It’s definitely just a joke, either because someone jokingly called him a shrimp one time or because he really likes shrimp for some reason.>>155963142Sometimes even that isn’t enough these days with certain kooks.>>155963052These are probably all his rivals who are better and more successful than him.
>>155968375I have a pickup truck?!
>>155968465Iirc the Puritans were basically "THAT guy" amongst the population in England, to the point when they decided to fuck off to the New World some local lords happily financed the voyage just to get rid of them once and for all
>>155968500England had a puritan ruler once. It was a disaster, he was cartoonishly evil.He even cancelled Christmas.
>>155968473You are aware while you're alive. I know that once it happens you're free from that dread, but the dread leading up to it is what bothers me.In any case, lingered on this topic long enough.
>>155968476He's elaborated on the king of shrimp thing
>>155968520>Oliver Cromwell mentioned
>>155968493Not anymore...
>>155966784>I do wonder how she was planning to bring about a thousand years of darkness.The worst part might be that, when Dr. Slashface was dragged off by the other ghosts toward the Ghostworld and Nathan left the mayor’s hat behind, she could have taken it—since we don’t see her bringing Dr. Slashface along to the Ghost World with the others.
>>155968587>endured the entire history of the universe over and over and over again, billions upon billions of years at at time, to save his newfound familyI know his concept of time is way outside the norm but even for him this has to have been a stress test that went way out of control.
>>155969022It seemed like he was finally breaking on the 100th loop too.It's kind of crazy that Abaddon is like, probably one of the oldest characters in fiction that isn't just one of those 'existed for infinity' types.
>>155969022>>155969111He does get angrier through each loop
>>155969224
>>155969234
>>155968520>>155968774Cromwell was a mixed bag…
>>155969234>>155969224So does he just take his own place in each loop or what? It seems he finds it an incredibly important moment when Nathan first finds him. I wonder what he thought of his suicide
>>155969224>>155969234>>155969245I mean this just confirms that demons can feel frustration but the effect of all the time passing had no effect which is really impressive, Jacob’s body is fully protected and everything
>>155969326Cant hear you, [*seething in Irish*] over here
>>155966018On the other hand, he was about to blow the entire hotel, but yeah, hope to see him again.
>>155966018It's fitting for a parody of Constantine to be involved in massive scale paranormal incidents that all kinda seem to relate to his own personal drama.
>>155967211>>155969504
>>155968214Have fun! Adventures! Do whatever the fuck I want!
>>155969454>>155969504>>155967211>>155966784It’s also fitting because Constantine’s extreme methods always puts him at odds with the rest of his universe. He’s a utilitarian largely only concerned with the bigger picture. He stoops to some very questionable lows to get things done, and that includes things like selling out entire populations to get a problem to go away. In contrast to that, Dante is ironically not as bad, a destroyed hotel is a pretty trivial consequence for the defeat of a greater evil.
>>155969648Thought that failed to post. Should've checked and not waited hours to retry...
>>155963583I'd vote for her
>>155963142please don't tell me there are people setting it at 21 now>>155965663eyyyy not bad! Giving me Maximum Carnage flashbacks.
>>155969675And then what?
>>155965949when have we ever wanted to die more in history than now?case in point, you just called death a 'they'
>>155969352>tfw the AMA had someone ask about Jacob still being in there somewhere and it wasnt answered>a 1700s Puritan boy might have been along for the ride over all those universe resets
>>155966167that's a completely valid question. specifically, their hearts, so they have to be killed first. It's not like you can say 'oh they are the forces of death' because yeah cold kills everything, but one of them is.. plants, so no.>>155966416I was amazed at how much Ben has grown and how much Esther hasn't
>>155966497Maybe more..imagine
>>155966558>>155966764I mainly know those as something every girl artist is into, and they do great art of them. That, and that thing with the owls.
>>155967266I like shorter hair, but she doesn't have the face for it the way Esther does. Especially not such short bangs. Her bangs need to be IN her eyes, making her eyebrows harder to animate.>>155967296don't worry, man. The real thing's gonna be a lot better, as long as you got your ticket at the free ticket booth. Your part is easy, the guy who had to get nailed to a plank of wood and hang there for hours did the hard work.
>>155969877I was more speaking generally as there have been fuckable Deaths of both genders over the years, but you keep hanging on that cross of yours, anon.
>>155967830>little sister gets all the lovewhoof. that hits a little close. Except I realized later, I was the one both of my parents loved more, because they disciplined me. They just let her do whatever, and turn out rotten.
>>155968268Did he say old age? I thought he said she was older, but he still recognized her.
>>155968268also, he might have been a very healthy 60-something in the 60s, so his granddaughter was born in like '48>>155968375Read it in his voice, easily.
>>155968500even the DUTCH made them leave, after teaching them a few cookie recipes.Basically, they were exactly the recurring pattern that Mista J was trying to speak against: people who make up new rules and add them to the already-really-long list of rules from the man upstairs. He specifically, many times, told people NOT to do that. But people LOVE doing that shit. Twitter kids are just the newest version, and while they're gleefully atheist, they still pile their new rules in with the old basic rules about like, don't murder people, etc.
>>155969962>Esther could be an artistThat's oddly fitting, she'd probably have a really cute artstyle
>>155969335any shaman who creates time travel magic, especially one-way, needs to work in what happens to you, whether you replace yourself, etc. Even Star Trek explained like, 40 or 50 versions of Worf passed through this spatial anomaly that coated them in these specific particles, so now they are swapping places in each other's universes, simultaneously, each time one of them is irradiated by geordi's visor. that aint even time travel, but it neatly explained the slipping into your own shoes thing.
>>155970001So you say 'he or she is always someone you want to fuck'Unless you phrased it as "Whoever plays death, / however he or she is depicted, they're always someone you want to fuck" because now you're back in the theoretical. "they" corresponds with words like "who" or "someone" or sentences with 'if' in them.>The More You Know~
>>155970090and she can draw magic circles and symbols with ease. she managed to memorize that ancient god's sealing symbol after seeing a brief flash of it in a vision, and then draw it perfectly in his EYE with a VERY unoptimized tool for the job.
>>155970130...........shut the fuck up, anon
>>155968375>we're getting some greenoh hell yes, please continue
>>155968275A 3-way does sound nice.
>>155970312Finally some benaddon that is realistic. Ben 100% is taking that demon shota cock
>>155970103Now that I think of it>create a stone tablet that sends anything you want back to the friggin Big Bang.............wwwhy?
>>155969862Eeey thanks!>>155970005I was thinking more of using the fact that Ben is EXTREMELY starved of praising. And although saying that Esther has an unhealthy cope mechanism, he also does have one too, and that is by hiding his feelings. In all the instances where their father was important (for the episodes minus the flashback one), it was Esther who broke easier, while Ben didn't even seem to "care" much, so I wanna make this coping mechanism of his to finally backfire. It's silly but I want some angst. Even Esther think it's odd only her is receiving her dad praise.
>>155970459maybe that's what fueled it in the first place. all the garbage people tossed back there.Or maybe someday, far in the future, when there's a lot more leftover neutron star matter or whatever, someone uses that tablet to send it back there
>>155970641ahh yeah that makes sense.
>>155968587The physics of him having sex with humans would be mind blowing. Catherine alone would bounce like a rag doll.
>>155970668>everything exists because countless amounts of useless junk got stuck in a time loop thanks to a magic chunk of rock.................huh
>>155969111>>155969224>>155969022Felt like it was more because he couldn't save them rather than the time itself but sure it was hurting him. Though this does kill the whole "he's 10 in demon years" theory lol. But if he was lying before all of his lore about being around before most humans is now canon, also can we talk about how Also as funny as it may sound since we see he literally survives outside of time and then the big bang/universal expansion. This makes abaddon incredible durable/high tier immortal. I assume the point of the slab is to just toss stuff into the void aka why it's the beginning of time. But abaddon survived 100 big bangs with no powers.
>>155965663Another one popping up! This one I decided to make his hair longer and move like fire but I really wanna change his hair. I don't know, it haven't clicked to me his human boy hair
>>155969874You're just being disingenuous. nonstop stuff. I will always be able to find new stuff to do, and new people to meet
>>155971032Hurt isn’t the right word. It just annoyed him more like. He didnt take any kind of explosion or anything, when he spawns in the earth is already formed and stuff, but the conditions he would have had to naturally endure still makes it very impressive for his survivability.
>>155971110>do literally everything>meet literally everyone>watch as everything and everyone around you withers and dies>empires rise and fall, all becoming a smear of experience against the ceaseless flow of time>the sun inevitably explodes and destroys the entire solar system, but not you>spend eternity drifting through the endless void, begging for an end that will never comeOr you could just live the life you have now. There's pizza, at least.
>>155971065Good stuff anon liking these a lot happy you came to the new thread. Also hope you follow up the stalking esther one too seems like fun will ensue.>>155971202True he'd have endured low oxygen and toxic environments because of early earth. Also, idk, I think he does go through the Big Bang, as they say "the beginning of time," and we see the Big Bang every time. Which makes me assume it means that is his starting point because then why else show it.
>>155971065nnneat. maybe try having it break up into a bunch of locks that all fly around wildly like tongues of flame? that way it's both realistic for hair AND stylistic.
>>155971202>>155971273First I must say, thanks! I will try that (although I want something that still has the same feeling of the show so he's not too desconected from the design, Imma try that and see if it gets too odd character wise)People, remember where he's from. Anything bad that happens and exists in universe came from or has in there. Low oxygen and toxic environment?>"So you want your torture chamber air to be nitrogen based, sulphirc based, helium based?... Oxygen? Sulphuric it is. Now the floor... Let's make it so a fine layer of your skin is melt and glued to the ground by the heat"I am certain early Earth and Hell were so close, it could even be a recurring joke that Earth was once a spa for high ranking demons before God broke everything down and built civilization huauhauha. Also canonically Abaddon is almost half a trillion years old if he endure the beggining and end of Earth a hundo times
>>155971273>>155971289>>155971771Woops! I answered the wrong person huahuahua well answering you now, I might try that!Also angry hybrid Abaddon.
>>155969682>In contrast to that, Dante is ironically not as bad, a destroyed hotel is a pretty trivial consequence for the defeat of a greater evil.And, to be honest, he’s doing the Freelings a favor.That hotel is a bottomless pit that gobbles up money; it’s more profitable to collect the insurance payout.
>>155971811aw hell yeah. this is massive.>>155972014you think it's insured?
>>155972014>inferring anyone, anywhere would insure that legitimate hell hole of a hotel
>>155972086he implies, you infer.
I'm not sure how to feel about the weird bit of ester yelling at heather then complimenting her.It feeling like some kind of ship bait but also a little abusive.
>Ben's totally fucking his teacher>HE'S BEING GROOMED?!I did laugh
>>155972905Esther's autismo prevents her from displaying affection properly
>>155972905>>155973026She's tsundere
>>155973026she's not autistic, she's had a complete loser flake of a dad and learned a bunch of black magic shit at a very young age, instead of playing with other kids. I can see why you'd mix the two up, the results are a bit similar.
High quality demon Esther.
>>155973289haha what if her clothes burned off from all the demon fire comin out haha just kidding but maybe..
>>155973015It is interesting how quickly cultural norms can change. What would be commonplace in 80s movies would be anathema to how we are today, and thats just a mere 30 odd years back
>>155972905We need more scenes of Abbadon and The One They Call Heather together. I feel like they bounce off each other pretty well but they've barely had the chance
>>155973318it's sick.. things are bad. I need them to change back. They shouldn't stay that way FOREVER, just for a while, til we can come up with something better.Also? 40 years. God, I'm old.>>155973337I bet she has soooo many questions.
>>155970312This excites me
>>155963764it literally is canon
>>155971771Hmmm sounds cool think current design is good but can't wait.True but he's tanking that in a human body that's the real feat. We don't know how good his immortality is/durability but must be insane. That does sound horrible maybe abaddon is just immune to some things since we see him walking around during these periods.That would be hilarious early earth is a spa. I just imagine abaddon and the family going to some early earth setting and abaddon is just like roger from american dad as the family is dying.>Freelings coughing up blood or visibly burning>Abaddon giddy and jigging>"Don't you love this heat? It reminds me of Hell! Jingles in the bells! Jing, jingle, jingle bell, bell! Jing, jingle, jingle! Hey, how come everybody's dying?"Honestly a hell episode would be a funny christmas special.>>155971811Definitely love your expressive abaddon stuff love the play with his hair becoming fire.
>>155973826dead on
>>155971811>>155973826Ey glad you liked my design, buuut I decided to play with his hairstyle a lil, so what you people think?
>>155973954poor guy is doomed to look girly all the time except when he was barbarianing it up out in the woods, and it got messed up and looked way cooler, and I think he had a ponytail in.shape is very important in hair..
>>155973846I felt it was abaddon would only realize once they are mostly dead.>>155973954I still prefer classic myself plus allows more for when he's angry the burning effect. But honestly all of these are great even the braided fae is definitely top 2 though but braids are fun silly one
>>155973994True also reminded me of that one Camp Camp max design. It was indeed a ponytail actually
>>155973954I like the default but yeah it flairing up when he gets all power-trippy or angry is a good detail.
>>155973337>>155972905>>155973189It’s better like that honestly, I like that Esther is the boss in the dynamic and Heather the submissive one, the jokes feel so appropriate
>>155974029if he could just keep the bangs and sides like that all the time.. keep the back from becoming 'wings,' he'd be a fine young man, suitable for getting into fights or playing rock n' roll.
>>155974161they've got some Patty/Marcie energy for sure, where the bossier one needs the smart one around, and she's also a scrappy auburn-haired tomboy.
>>155974174Technically, for the time he's from, he still is. But I too liked this and more wild abaddon hair designs it fits him
>>155973994>>155974029>>155974174>>155974207So I decided to try the messy lookMaybe he's being "corrected" for mellowing out because of humans
>>155967816Getting fucked by otherworldly entities
>>155974287Damn not ryona'd abaddon save that for esther or something. But all jokes aside that's very fun anon and cute. But what human could beat him at that level?
>>155974486That actually wasn't a human, but a high ranking demon. A demon shouldn't make friends with humans, and specially not a she-mon, so the demon is teaching Abaddon what happens when demons get too soft, or in their saying: "when demons get too angel". This moment here is Abaddon seeing Esther when she comes to save him
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>>155974569Already went for the angst but to be fair what can esther do to a demon that can beat abaddon lol. The rock paper scissors rule says she'd be fucked>>155974580High ranking demon named"Chu ckn oris"
>>155974605Demons are weaks to ghost, who (and now this is nothing more than just an AU) are weak to angels, who are weak to humans, so she demanded Ben to use his angel girlfriend to comand a ghost to fight off a demon, but let's be real, I just wanted to draw beat up sad Abaddon (also changed the fire and his messy hair)
>>155973318Tricking people into kissing them was still frowned upon in the ‘80s, right?
>>155974759Damn they samson'd abaddon cut his hair. I always wondered why cutting your hair is a humilation thing but more a girl kink now. I won't overly judge the au my b. But really these are definitely fun expressions anon keep going also why doesn't the angel just fight the demon?
>>155974923I would make demons and angels have the same amount of power, but then the first episode came and already broke that by making ghost-demon-human a rock-paper-scissor type of weakness, so I had to put angels in it somewhere, so I made them weaker to humans (because they need their praise and adoration) and stronger against ghosts, closing the order
>>155974923Oh now I understood what you mean. In that scene of beaten up Abaddon, the angel IS fighting the demon while Esther saves Abaddon, I'm just procrastinating drawing it
>>155972108and I insist.
>>155974854no, anon. it's romantic. a kiss is just a step above a handshake, it wasn't considered sexual, let alone sexual assault.but you knew that, because you've watched literally dozens, probably over a hundred, TV shows and movies from the 80s.
>>155975083Huh interesting and kind of funny so it's rock paper scissor gun I suppose. >>155975106I wouldn't say that you've done more than most me especially I haven't sketched anything since last week lol. I think this is good stuff and yeah happy the angel will help poor abby
>>155975381Oh well I can't wait for you to draw something then! Also I can't wait to draw an angel. Just read a Wikipedia list of angels, so I'm safe to say I'm basically a master in theology now
>>155975508That is the modern way to become great that or ai'ing a bunch of information. I'm still for kid angel myself but can't wait to see how you do it. Could also reuse that one molly mcgee exorcist girl design posted in the last thread
>>155968375>A rattling of metal from behind>You spin around, your hand reflexively flying to your hip>You think you caught a glimpse of purple>But no one's there>"Sir?">you spin back towards the desk, making the woman now standing there jump>"Woah! Didn't mean to startle you.""Sorry, I-it's, uh...">You rub your eyes"Just, uh, tired. On edge, sorry.">You open your eyes again and take a proper look at the woman>Older>Older than you, at least>Plenty pretty though"Please tell me you have a phone I can borrow. M-my truck is stuck in a ditch a quarter mile form here, and my phone's dead, and my foot is killing me, and I'm wet, and tired, and I just...I just need a break.">The honesty rushes out before you know it and now you're staring pleadingly at her>She stares back, her face steadily melting into that sort of pitiful gaze a mother gives a particularly pathetic child>"I-">A crash from somewhere deeper in the hotel, like a fallen bookshelf>The woman sighs>She studies the various keys hanging behind her before snagging one and putting it into your hand, closing your fingers around it>"Landline's the only way to make calls out here. You can stay here until the storm lifts and you can use the phone. I'll have Ben show you to your room.""Th-thanks..." you mutter as the woman rushes away to the source of the crash
>>155966558the first series is kino, the others never reach that peak but the fourth series comes close
>>155975580What molly mcgee design?
>>155975906This one
>>155976287the lil hair horns are a nice touch. Also love that he has so neatly painted the back of the ipad with cheeto dust, carefully coloring within the lines.. and holding more in his tail.
>>155966874Sauce/artist?
>>155976287Fat greedy fuck is always eating SOMETHING!!
>>155965663Found another abaddon with the demon arm concept
>>155976619it's funny, he's presumably immune to starvation, but continues having biofunctions anyway. There must be some energy source.. might be Abaddon's own being. It's one thing for an eternal cosmic being to exist, but eternal corporeality demands some exchange.then again, maybe he's just like Nanahoshi
>>155976697I mean doesn't seem like he has consistent biofunctions we never see him use the restroom but he can regrow/regenerate shockingly fast. So maybe the more he eats the fast he can remake limbs or fix wounds.
>>155976697He's greedy, that's what he is
>>155976667is that from fallout?
>>155976485Keroterine
>>155976752Fnaf reference
>>155976619>>155976697My personal headcanon as to why Abaddon eats a lot, and eats practically anything, is that it's a nod to the original Abaddon being the name of a bottomless pit. Same for the chest-mouth on his true form too.He just eats and eats and is never truly fully full.
>>155976822you know what i just realized? the thing keeping him from seeming cute to me in most shots isn't the dopey puritan hairstyle or the eye bags or the weirdly small pupils that still have colored irides.. it's the facial WIDTH. Gi.. gimme a second..yeah, this looks.. more right to me. I kinda de-Stewie'd him.
Local witch and her demon bf
>>155969682That hotel seems to be some sort of gateway to the Ghostworld—or the afterlife—given the unusual amount of paranormal entities and ghosts it appears to spew into the mortal realm on a daily basis and have infested the entire town and forest; and consequently, it attracts other supernatural forces, such as witches, demons, cultists, magical or mythological creatures, ancient outer gods, alien/eldritch entities, shadows, vampires, the undead, and so on.If that hotel had been blow down, he might have accidentally destroyed the magic that kept the ghosts in place, thereby unleashing an Armageddon upon the entire world—much like what happens in Devil May Cry.i mean, not like the one that happened because of Abaddon but a chaos similar to Ghostbusters.The line Between the World of the Living and Death could have been shattered and Ghosts could harm people so as they do to Dante.
>>155976822This makes a lot of sense to be a headcanon.
>>155977268It's funny, I get annoyed when there are too many coincidentally important things about Earth in a scifi setting with all manner of extraterrestrial life and cosmic beings, yet I totally buy that there are parts of this planet where the fabric of reality is just weak (and that those parts travel with the planet through space, I guess, at least on our end). That's an ancient concept, too. They used to believe that about Mesopotamia/Babel/Chaldea/Babylon/Persia. And since that's where Eden was...Still, I have to wonder if there is a major source of this. I mean, it's one thing to say ghosts happen and monsters congregate because of just essentially a 'natural feature' of the fabric of reality. but an ancient god being buried there? a REALLY ancient god, too. I think that guy might just be the source of all of it. He's the Demon Xanth, if you will.
>>155976822I think Abaddon likes the taste of mortal food because its loaded with processed sugar and preservatives to where its completely decadant which is why he appreciates it because his taste buds are that of a small starving 1700's child who isnt used to having this level of decadence conveniently around him at all times
>>155977507I think ghosts and these ancient Gods are complete different things, the God could draw the fantasy, mythological, demonic and eldritch aspects of the hotel.The Ghosts seems to came from a different plane from existence, the Ghostworld.'cause yeah, the hotel is infested with foreign ghosts already, most of them are pretty random and don't fit with the story of the hotel being prison and a mental Asylum like 2 times.And not only the Hotel, all the Town reeks of Paranormal energy.
>>155977556then again, he also drinks random shit from under the sink.
>>155967816Pleasuring mortal guests for tips
>>155975628Nice
>>155967867Skyrim is cool though.You can fuck the lizard people.
>>155967247As hags go, is Catherine hot?
>>155976037That's soo cute! Also SHIT I thought I was the only one who thought of the angel having the "Joana d'Arc" hairstyle.Thanks, friend! I will use her as one of the references
>>155976667Oooh clever! Using his mark as to where the arms comes out of is very neat
>>155963583She is a monster on the inside, but she is too shy to show it.What is her unfinished business?
>>155963583There was nothing wrong with the caretaker; Ben is just a crybaby.
>>155963583I liked the last episode, but it feels a bit weak for a season finale.
>>155979103She longs to bathe in the blood of a billion conquered foes.
>>155979471Its clear they were hoping for another ten episode season but Netflix likely slashed their budget. Second half feels a bit rushed as a result
>>155966018He WAS trying to blow up the hotel with all of them still inside of it.
>>155979982Nah, the plan was to immobilize her and then blow up the hotel once everyone was out.And he would have gotten away with it, if it weren’t for that family of meddlers and their pet demon.
>>155970312Abaddon when he corrupts Ben.
>>155980066>two episodes where Katherine strips naked to get in the bath>new brown girl added to the cast who is always sucking on a banana>new lighthouse ghost waifu introduced who just wants romance>plenty of other secondary cast ghost options like Angela>all the lewd art is Abaddon with either Ben or EstherI feel cheated by the r34 of this show, I'm not gonna lie.
Hey peeps, I need a help.Can you people send some teen design of the show! Mostly girl teen the same age as Ben, please. I can't take it from where I watched HH
>>155967369visually it's 99% dogshit except for a select few character models
>>155980148>STILL no Jessica pornCome ON! I know I'm asking for too much when I ask for Jessica x Male, but I don't even get Jessica x female?!
>>155967369It's a low bar I know, but it is the best of Netflix's more adult animated shows. The writing and delivery carry it, and despite the character models being that overused style, there is some nice animation at times and the locations look nice.
>>155975628Anon died and is a ghost, isn't he?
>>155967369It’s way better than Brickleberry and easier on the eyes in motion.>>155979881They didn’t slash the budget, they couldn’t make it in time for the deadline. There’s two more episodes still out there.
>>155976619I love how he’s randomly a wolf at the end >>155976697>>155976718Yeah as far as we know he doesn’t even sleep, he does seem to need to breathe but everything else is probably optional
>>155978449Well again molly mcgee is dead now, and also just a fun concept that I remember the og anon kind of up and disappear iirc. So no point not reusing plus could be funny>>155978451Becomes a new mouth/interdimensional hole is kind of cool indeed
>>155977268That’s one possibility, another is that it could be the ‘bridge’ a lot of the stuff that shows up there use to access our world, and once it’s destroyed they’ll be sent back to wherever they came from. Who knows, there’s a lot about it that’s still particularly ambiguous, it might not even be possible to destroy it.
Katherines 1st instinct was to hit Ben.
>>155980558If Ben got hit more as a kid, he wouldn't be such a little bitch
>>155966018I’m pretty sure this guy started out as a parody character, but—good God—they made him way too badass. He’s John Constantine with the kind of violence you’d expect from the Winchesters. He’s like Keanu’s Constantine, but with a loooong time having passed since we last saw him.And as the episode ending, Dante will return.
>>155980558How long until child protective services catch this wicked woman?
>>155980460Not a wolf, a cat
>>155977788>>155977556it’s definitely a case of whatever he can get his hands on >>155979295fuck that’s a great style
SON OF A BITCH!!!!
>>155981136I liked kid eda
>>155980489Abaddon 100% locks his jaw when he bites likea a common beast. An unlike a beast he is immortal so he just never let's go
>>155981136Please stop, I can only get so erect
>>155981136I thought everyone knew this. Damn shame we Eda didn’t stay like that. Funny that she played two redhead lolis.
>>155981559>Two redhead SCAMMER lolis
>>155971273Well it’s near the starting point so showing it to give some context makes sense plus the beginning is sped up which seems to indicate the ‘timer’ hasn’t started yet but I guess there’s room for interpretation
>>155982422Could also be because he was pullying a mahoraga and just constantly tanking the heat death/heat restart of the universe over and over. So he couldn't maintain his physical form for long. But you are probably right just felt a bit weird to keep showing it plus it says the beginning of time and the big bang would count in my head. Also would explain why none of the other stuff they send there causes any time paradox. Perfect paradox free time machine because it literally kills or vaporizes anything with matter.
I was really invested in this season Intro Tale.So what is the deal with them?Eshter clearly fucked up as voodoo dolls aren't supposed to come to life.The question is : Are the dolls "clones" with the personality of the people they were made after?orThe soul of the people got sucked inside the dolls bring them to life while the original are some sort of coma or zombie like state?
>>155983321Uhhh what? Where the hell is this from?
>>155982904>Train you to behaveSomehow cute and a bit wholesome. We need more esther abaddon art like this.>>155983321Better they aren't real or these people would be fucked. I imagine esther tried voodoo dolling with random bits of hair and clothes she got from people. Each being people who were residents or came into the hotel for a second last season. But as you said think the dolls came to life or she fucked them up.Also can't be last one as we see the mailman meaning he's still ok. Also think we see the nice hotel guy as well.
>>155980580>If Ben got hit more as a kid, he wouldn't be such a little bitchagreed
>>155983321>>155983417Esther accidentally did the dolls backwards. Now the people Avatar into them at night
>>155983321hero!
>>155983510That's honestly kind of cool and horrorifying concept. Imagine thinking you are just having a horrible series of nightmares.
>>155983390Each intro has these frames for a few seconds as the camera pass through the floor after Eshter has killed the vampire.Last season was an epic battle between rats, snakes and spiders>>155983417I Don't remember seeing any of them in the last season so I wouldn't be sure. >>155983510That would explain why Eshter hasn't noticed them being alive as she would be sleeping... But the Astral Projection Episode we see as she faze through a wall a scene of the Principal doll being chased by the Zombie Possum. Also noticed I posted the 2nd half first XP
>>155983668Love this guys style. They should all sex.
>>155980558typical woman. she should be hitting Esther.
>>155980955daww>>155982904dawwww!
>>155984005
>>155984095Esther ryona nooooo kind of based though
>>155980148Ill take a thousand pieces of wholesome art like the ones posted in this thread over a single god-tier r34 piece, honestly. Show doesnt really lend itself to porn that well.
>>155977268.....how does an entire train "die" and become a ghost?
>>155984246>He doesn't know about ghost trainsYou got a lot to learn, boy
>>155981136I cum
>>155984246When a train’s boiler is destroyed, the train dies; the boiler is the heart of a train.But nowadays they are all electric; electric trains are to trains what robots are to humans.
>>155983603that's.. fascinating, yeah. I need that as a story.
>>155983656>Esther.>Sleepinganon
>>155985290True. We all know Esther stays up all night gooning to pictures of Anon and sometimes involves Abaddon.
>>155984095Not THAT hard!!! Just one little slap. Usually on the butt. That's all it takes. More if she's more defiant, but if you start at a young age...
>>155973575I want this without abaddon
>>155984223I want both. and all the porn needs to be wholesome porn.
>>155984223>>155980148>>155980213I guess give it some more time, it hasn’t really ‘caught on’ in the wider sphere of the animation zeitgeist yet, and a lot of NSFW artists are still unaware of it accordingly, right now we’re seeing the more ‘normal’ artists give it more attention
>>155980463Well I still mayn't use her, but I may base her design on my angel teen. Also I'm thinking on naming the angel Azazel, "the scapegoat"
>>155985801Either that o she will hide her name as Uziel, Uzza or Ouza, whichever I find it best at the moment
>>155967816Getting molested by the concierge
>>155985392noting this
>>155985871or Ouzo and then she gets drunk and starts smashing plates
Finally some esther in a dress art has been made
>>155986053this guy draws faces quite strangely but credit for being probably the first to do this
>>155986180what exactly is he doing?
>>155986260putting Esther in a skirt. or further feminizing her. something I hope we get in the show too.
>>155965869>He wasn't scared
>>155986053She doesn't like it
>>155984246Is a Ghost Train, build in the Ghostworld by Ghosts and other native entities.
How the Powerscale really works in this Universe?Like if a Demon is strong enough can beat a Ghost and if a Ghost is strong enough can beat a human?Or a Eldritch being is x2 more powerful than a Demon and a Ghost?
>>155985119I never laugh this hard.
>>155984246Does the fact that there is a definitive afterlife that provably exists mean that the likes of Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot have thier own ghosts floating around somewhere?The answer is don't think about it.
>>155987326Wait, does that mean Hitler obtained the power of the Spear of Destiny?
>>155987326Their souls are in hell along the leftists.Just like in Dante’s inferno, they are burning in "their" own hell.
>>155986924the coat without pants is good enough for me.
You think he has the shota shorts tanlines too or no?
>>155987246Abbadon says the very presence of ghosts makes him feel like a thousand knives are jabbed into his body. We're not entirely sure what level of demon he is and if the human body he possesses plays a role, but it's still clear that ghosts are effectively a kind of kryptonite for thier kind. Have enough in one spot like the hotel and probably even the most powerful lords of hell become weak, feeble husks
>>155987326Considering guys like Hitler (and McCarthy, while we're at it) ended up being incredibly beneficial to their victims, by way of engendering sympathy, I have to think they're in some special kind of 'no, you have to watch this' afterlife, rather than the traditional fire and poking.
>>155987504>We're not entirely sure what level of demon he is and if the human body he possesses plays a role.He's a low-rank Demon lord.Just a Big demon but not really that strong.
>>155980420>Called it so hard he killed the Anon writing the green
>>155987538suitable for tending bar and gathering cobras what with for the biting of people.>>155980420he's holding a key, so
>>155986429>the westaboos love the showWonder what draws them to it so much
>>155984246If enough people die in the same area, especially all at once in a violent way like a train crash its likely that their shared experience manifests a train to mimic the horror of the crash every night or whatever
>>155987504>when you die you become an anti-demon beacon>unless you die and go to hell where you become thier bitch for eternity
>>155987602Cute scrappy girl and boy, hot mom, good writing...>>155987615yeah, what is a train if not clothes you wear that take you somewhere? Just like jet-powered rocket-pants
>>155987602Ugly cute demon boy
>>155987635that is kinda weird, if you think about it. But it also makes sense. A ghost is a dead human that a demon can't do anything about, because they aren't in the right place for it. But also, it's like the demons' job remains forever unfinished, until the ghost goes on to somewhere else.
>>155987654I would imagine that is more of an environment issue then like there could be thousands of ghosts that do their stuff completely isolated like in the sky a ghosts randomly manifests and explodes but nobody sees it.But in the show ghosts don't stuck in a loop so it might just be the guy with the rocket pants that blew up while he wore it is stuck in the sky and will never get to land if he died before landing.Then again it was shown that there was no limit on how low a ghost could go so maybe they could manifest on the ground especially since they likely started out there
>>155987538He's actually a low-rank demi demon although demi-demons do have all the powers of a full on demon, but are only partially immortals
>>155987724>But in the show ghosts don't stuck in a loopThere's that mafia guy from the first episode. He was stuck in a death day loop.
>>155987742so much variety of ghostitude
>>155987742Damn I already forgot so I guess some ghosts are stuck in loops which would explain the train thing then since it is a canon way for them to exist.Do we see him again because he might be stuck in the death loop but after he is killed he might be able to go about the hotel like a normal ghost until the loop begins again
>>155987794I've always thought of it as, on the anniversary of your death, you relive your death day and for the rest of the year, you just kind of don't exist
>>155987742A lot of things in the the first episode are inconsistent with later episodes, but that's generally to be expected.
>>155987927yeah didn't stabby paul harmlessly attempt to stab nathan?
We’re back. Praise Abaddon and Esther’s tigh poon. First.
>>155987979Praise be.
>>155909535You know what >>155909522It’s great, I’ve caught a few already, stuff like EH on the tv screen of the honeymoon suite, Hellraiser in the first episode of season 2 etc.
WerEstherI'd love to see an actual werewolf episode.
>>155987504>>155987635I think I have the best interpretation of the afterlife—if I may simplify it for you.It comes from a personal project of mine; you see, to me, the afterlife is divided into 5 levels:.Heaven – Angels/Earthly Gods.Nirvana – Spirits/Buddhist-kind divinities and the like.(Upper planes)Limbo – Souls/Ghosts (Middle plane; directly connected to the mortal plane)(Lower planes)Sheol – Shadows/UmbraeHell – DemonsWhen someone dies, they don’t instantly become a ghost; instead, they become a "Soul."After spending some time in Limbo, that soul turns into a ghost—or some other type of ghostly entity—unless it is sentenced to one of the other 4 levels beforehand.Unlike in the series, here it is the demons that affect the ghosts. Since ghosts are directly linked to the living plane—every being that dies becomes a soul and, subsequently, a ghost—just as a demon can affect a human, it logically follows that it also affects their soul.In fact, ghosts are the most vulnerable to the influence of the other 4 levels; that is to say:Ghosts are affected by Spirits & Shadows. Shadows corrupt ghosts & souls.Spirits purify ghosts & souls, transforming them into pure entities that I call "Animas."Spirits & Shadows can destroy each other; however, if they match in power level, their interactions follow the "rock-paper-scissors" dynamic.Spirits & Shadows can be affected by Angels & Demons.Angels & Demons are similar in nature to Spirits & Shadows, but exist on a far more extreme scale—they are embodiments of fundamental realities, and their power is universal in scope.Angels represent Order, while Demons represent Chaos—or entropy.Even the weakest Demon can affect the strongest Spirit, just as the weakest Angel can affect the strongest Shadow; in fact, the mere presence of an Angel or a Demon can completely obliterate these two.While they cannot destroy ghosts, they can still exert influence over them through their power.
>>155988038He loves his yogurt haha
>>155980884You joke, but I could see that being a plot in the future.
>>155980558>>155984005If Katherine should hit anyone, it should be Abaddon, he could take it.
>>155988362>Sir, Warner's lawyers are on the phoneI like it. Though I don't see why her head should get so much proportionately bigger, typically the reverse happens.Nice touch with the demon-eyes though
>>155989133yes, he deserves a good spanking. but nothing she does is going to help him grow up into an adult, so it's also a lot less worth bothering withEsther, on the other hand, is at a crossroads. She's becoming a young woman, and the presence or absence of physical discipline is going to decide whether she becomes a good woman or a real extra-strength piece of shit.
>>155987514>MccarthyThat doesn't sound fitting for someone in heaven
>We expect to be back shortly.We expect to be back shortly.>We expect to be back shortly.We expect to be back shortly.>We expect to be back shortly.We expect to be back shortly.>We expect to be back shortly.We expect to be back shortly.
>>155987538That sounds fair enough. Not a pushover but not a big shot either.>>155882166>deleted for no reasonWell ok then.
>>155987602More accessibility over the years presumablyTends to make things easier for them >>155987635One is clearly preferable over the other in that senseJust make sure if you go over it’s to heaven.
>>155969682like the time JC smothered a gurl in a coma 2 give Téfe Hollands spirit a body 2 inhabit
>>155989323When you have a friend.
>>155989209I'm just saying their shit backfired, and that all current politics is based around manufacturing such icons so that they can drive the public to hate whatever they want, by putting buffoons in charge of supporting it. If they have any awareness of that, they're gonna feel pretty bad.
>>155988795This would be so cool for abaddon.
>>155987681>God: The jurisdiction is clear; demons can only claim souls that are headed to hell or that are voluntarily handed over to them.>Demon: What about demonic possession?>God: Well, in the case of a possession, the owner of the soul has one week to cast the demon out of their body; if they fail to do so, it’s assumed that they enjoy having demons fuck their soul.
>>155987979What if we praise both at once?>>155989218Didn't you hear what happened? for once it's not 4chan fault literally half the sites around were down for the past days.
Me after watching episode 4.
>>155989714> if they fail to do so, it’s assumed that they enjoy having demons fuck their soul.I imagine it's like a freebie or having a mental illness/damage. You aren't yourself so mostly all the sins are attributed to the demon.Because jacob most likely wasn't a bad kid and seemed to have no way to get abaddon out of his body.Though god being a petty bitch like puritans imagined is kind of funny. "Dirty slut letting a demon fuck their soul"
>>155990304The big guy has a history of politely letting others have their way, even when they shouldn't and it fucks them over. Oh you want me to stay out of your state affairs? Fine, i'm gone, let's see how you handle it by yourselves. You want to worship chunks of metal? you won't mind drinking it all ground up then..
>>155963583Smeet! It's a ghost girl!
>>155990362Well that's mostly old testament, in the new testament he tries to warn you and usually life just fucks you in exchange. It's where the concept of the karma/universe retribution thing kind of comes from in fables/most stories. Wonder if he did that to abaddon as punishment for corrupting a innocent soul.
>>155990445ah, but when life fucks you over, that's still your choices (that is, humanity's choices) ganging up to fuck you. He still always gave you the warning even back then, he just also did a lot more visual theatrics.it is difficult to reconcile how God would be in this setting, one assumes VERY hands-off, very distant. But then again, maybe the existence of ghosts here is a little loophole he pulls to help some people figure shit out if they hadn't done so by (what is normally) the deadline.
I AM BAACK!!! And with the first sketch of my angel possessed demon hunter. This is Jehanne and I want to digitalize her (also make her better cuz I hate the lack of manipulation I can have with traditional art) and change her face. I didn't like how it turned out
>>155990076He's such a good character this season
>>155990566digital manipulation is great. take it from a pro who wished he learned sooner: use vector lines. holy shit are vector lines useful, and you can keep adjusting them later and they don't become shitty.
>>155975628>"N-not that way either!">Ben ushers you down a different fork in the hallway>Your jaw hurts from how tight you're clenching>This kid has been leading you down random hallways, up and down stairs, all over the place>At this point, you're seriously considering if this kid is old enough for you to deck him>"Aaaaaaand here we are! At your room. Sir.">Maybe another time"Thanks. Kid.">Ben grins and watches you a little too close for comfort as you shamble into your room, locking the door behind you>As soon as you drop your ass onto the bed, you finally let the pain and frustration show>Your breathing picks up as yank at your boot's laces >You force it off your foot with only a couple quick breaks to catch your breath>Tenderly roll your sock off>Finally take a look at your injured ankle>Swollen to hell>Somewhere between dark red and purple>You can't tell if anything's broken, but good Lord, does it hurt>Your eyelids feel heavy>Sitting down has sapped the adrenaline keeping you awake>You manage to rip your other boot off before you fall back and let sleep take you
>>155990644We need more kathaddon
>>155988362>There’s a werewolf convention at the hotel.>Esther falls for a werewolf guy.>She tries to get his attention, but fails.>Abaddon suggests she try becoming a werewolf, but she needs a werewolf to bite her.>No one wants to turn Esther into a werewolf because "pups" draw too much attention, and they want to stay under the radar.>Esther ends up getting bitten by accident.>Everything spirals out of control.>In the end, Kat teaches Esther that she shouldn’t change herself for a guy (even though no one asked her to in the first place).>Plot twist: the guy was just shy.
>>155990673I’ll wake up with Abaddon sucking on my ankle, right?
>>155990763Not a bad idea anon. Though knowing esther she'd just want the powers not care about some rando. She'd just want to look cool, could also see it being because of abaddon. He and some other monsters are chilling or hanging out and esther feels left out. Or maybe even esther realizing how weak and mortal she is compared to the creatures like abaddon. So she wants a taste of that power but becomes addicted to being a monster.No lie if we get a s3 maybe could be a multi episode monster arc. Like imagine astral esther but we see little key points in other eps that softly reveal she was a project in the previous episode or something.
>>155990582It's funny cuz I'm not a fan of vectors. I don't like that I can't paint like I do with normal digital, now vectors are KINGS of manipulation drawings and I love how easy it is to draw with vectors
Werewolf are cool
>>155991028Cute as fuck!
>>155980558She also hit the black lady from the first episode, seems to be her thing to go violent when overwhelmed or to protect her kids, like when she picked up the broom and smacked to death that one hell sprite, cutting to Esther and Shayna shocked at her iirc
Kinda surprised no one has done any crossover art with something like Danny Phantom
>>155991517Will his mommy issues ever be addressed?
>>155991596Maybe some magic thing will have him fuck his mom and get over it
>>155990763nice.>>155990948Just to be clear because I'm not sure I understood your post (it sounded like you meant to say "before I felt.. and now I feel" ) but I'm not talking about those boring anchor-point vectors, see that's why I didn't use them for decades. I thought that's what they were, when others talked about drawing in vectorI'm talking about a vector layer in your art program, and then you draw the lines like normal. everything looks the same, aside from a TINY jittering of the line after you draw it, with one or two pixels moving from where they were before you lifted the penuntil you try manipulating them with rotate, skew, etc. now suddenly they... just behave, they don't go all weird or jaggedy. they do what you want them to. it's amazing. aaahh. I could have been doing shit so much better for so long.>>155991064damn right they are. though I have never been fond of the immortal / contagious aspect, that just seems silly for a few reasons. I prefer they are just the result of people fucking wolves, and instead of coming out a furry, or a human-headed animal, or animal-headed human, you come out human except when you turn into a furry under certain stimuli.
>>155991428We've had a few crossovers with more recent paranormal cartoons, I've seen some Molly McGee and some Gravity Falls, but yeah. DP would fit right in kinda.
>>155991669Having sex with your mother is the exact opposite of getting over your mommy issues.
>>155991733it's not the solution for your initial goal, but it is one that technically meets the criteria for a solution, in that the initial condition has changed.
>>155991151Mama bear instincts basically. Can’t really fault her for it. Her being passive/apathetic would be worse. >>155991726>>155991428DP is a little older at this point so sadly it doesn’t surprise me if it’s getting left behind but a tgamm crossover would be pretty topical.
>>155992084it also just kinda lacked in substance. it was a silly fun saturday morning cartoon, and those are fine.
>>155988795Interesting.Usually, works of this kind are categorized into different types, but such classifications often contain certain inconsistencies.In this case, however, it actually seems to make sense.
>>155992199I always loved how Mike Tyson Mysteries put it, when Marquess explained how ghosts can die again. And if he dies, he'll stop being able to touch anything. Then if he dies again, he'll stop looking like himself and just be a generic bedsheet ghost. and I wanna say after that, invisible, only able to wail and spook people but not really participate.the continuity on that show was terrible (on purpose, I think), but whenever it tried to have rules, they instantly just made sense and gelled with the plot.
>>155990566She's a true monk gf>>155990948>>155990582Aren't vectors just for illustrate? Also what is the benefit for vectors anyway always been a bit annoying to me because illustrates lines are so stiff. Unless you do something like animation/tons of edits with lines so you need constant potential shifting.
>>155992199GB in general does a lot of cool stuff with their ghost mythos. Very fun. The game did similar too.
I honestly kind of wanna see Shayna and Ben hook up. Their dynamic seems like it could be fun together. Does anyone know how she old she is? Might be fair game
>>155992506Shayna is busy shagging random guests
>>155992506>Ben continuing to be the most groomableYes please.
>>155992238in my case, My Ghosts follow the logic of "You cannot kill what is already dead"—no matter how much damage you inflict, you can only weaken it until iy gets defeated.If it is a ghost present in the world of the living, it simply vanishes, pulled back to the dimension where all ghosts go.To put it another way, my interpretation draws heavily from Buddhist mythology, which posits different types of immortality across 4 Mortuary plane levels.It is quite complex but interesting.
>>155992464you mean Adobe Illustrate, the program?No here, let me show you, uh, hold on..see how the line quality goes to shit when you rotate the raster? and that's not even that bad, it gets way worse when you do any other shit like skew or stretch
>>155992506..... well hot damn, I just got a new ship. Yes. yes please.>>155992818zoomed in, in case it's not immediately obvious
>>155963583
>>155990673>The first thing you hear is rain>The second is...rattling metal>You open your eyes>Looking to the nearby window, it's still pitch black and pouring rain>You're still exhausted>You must've only slept for...>You rub your eyes and stare at your watch more closely>10 hours>...>Must be fast>You sit up and examine your ankle again>Swelling's gone down some>Pain hasn't>And it's still wet>Was it wet before?>Probably sweat>You struggle to get your boots back on >A walk should help you sleep>As soon as you open the door, you're halted by the sight of a pale woman with long black hair and a grey dress who seems just as surprised as you>"Eh...I...">She clears her throat and smoothes out her dress, her eyes avoiding your person>"I'm off my game tonight." She mutters before walking off>You decide to ignore that as you go down the hall in the opposite direction>You also decide to ignore the faint zapping sound from behind you
>>155991733In Ben's case it's a get-it-out-of-your-system kind of solution
>>155992492Mine follows a sort of power scale, as you could see.one abaddon would enjoy if he was tired to this chaotic rules.
>>155992506Fourth-ing it. She’s the only other tangible female besides Esther/Katherine/sometimes Heather so that already makes it pretty fitting.
>>155992818I see I see, makes sense so you can do the vector thing in other stuff than just illustrate too now? Honestly last time I messed with vectors was back in school.
>>155992936Abaddon when people keep calling him "that ugly western shota"
So we all agree it's Katherine's fault Nathan killed himself right?
>>155993136yeah same, the only vectors I knew about back then were those stupid anchor-point things, often with a fountain pen nib icon?but now it's literally a layer type. and, once you're done, you can just rasterize the layer, and it's back to normal. (the reverse is also possible but the results are quite hideous, so it's best done sparingly and then with cleanup)In Clip Studio at least (what I'm using), you can also do stuff like... cut out a segment of your vector line (or all of it) and then adjust its thickness.. it basically remembers your stroke, and makes it what it would have been like at a different line width, right down to the taper.The only thing I don't like is the lines are hard to recolor (kinda have to rasterize there, or at least make a raster copy), and you have to tweak fill bucket a bit to play nice with it. and obviously since it's its own layer, overlapping becomes weird. yeah I know, I used single layer shit in digital art for like 20 years, I was retarded.
>>155993254No.
>>155993170people call him that?? fuck em…
>>155993649well he is a lil ugly. it's intentional.
>>155993588Well you're wrong.
>>155992870Funk Pops fucking suck but I appreciate the craftsmanship and dedication of making a custom like this.
>>155993895Better Funko
>>155993952it's spelled Battafuoco
It would have been great if the ghosts had kept that ghostly blue texture; in the series, many of them are indistinguishable from the living—though I suspect that was intentional, to allow for the inclusion of the new girl.
>>155993254No, but she does feel guilty.Nathan should've reached out.
>>155994512it also means Nathan doesn't constantly have to hide, and that you can do fun fakeouts. Plus stuff where an astral-projecting Esther can pretend she's normal, and then be suspected of being dead, before we find out the truth (and I love that astral phasing is a different color)that said, I wouldn't have minded if maybe going translucent and blue was sort of a thing ghosts do... from time to time, maybe when stressed?It actually reminds me a lot of how Rimmer from Red Dwarf was originally going to be in black and white, and they did that in the comic adaptations, but they couldn't pull it off on a british TV budget, not even on Dave.
>>155994613kek, what in the Hakuro no Fujin is this contraption.
>>155993254I trust he died to the grapes, i can't believe him doing something so selfish and now don't even remember what he done and not being forever ashamed of that.
>>155994672You're in denial anon.
>>155994701in fairness, denial is largely healthy when it comes to fiction. sometimes we've denial'd our way to retconned bad endings.
>>155994701>>155994714Even so, it bothers me—I mean, what does this imply?Ever since he killed himself, everything seems to have gotten better for him now that he’s a ghost; his family spends more time with him at the hotel, he has ghost friends, and he always seems cheerful.Suicide is never the answer.He ought to be more like Greg—a ghost who suffers for all eternity because of something he did to himself.(A crime)It’s unfair for a soul to possess the very thing he rob himself.The Grape make more sense for his character and Ghost state.This ruined my view on Nathan.https://youtu.be/whQUZ--7JfQ?si=aM-M8azAYIXVQo1i
>>155994876>not an actual fucking argumentI hate how these retards are trying to make suicide look like, what, the magical awnser for all of their fucking problems?Nathan should be a more sad and gloomy lost soul and not the comic relief.
>>155994877The whole point of Nathan is that his always happy facade hid a deeply depressed man, that's part of his character anon, even as a ghost you can see he's still conflicted and has problems opening up.
>>155994899It's a fucking cartoon anon, you're way overthinking this.They're not trying to paint suicide as the answer to anything, it's a tragedy, it's treated as a tragedy, we've seen how it affected Katherine.Nathan's whole personality is a defense mechanism, we saw that even when he was alive in the flashback, he lied to Kathy and told her everything was fine.
>>155994901That only works when talking about a character who is alive.Someone who dies by suicide will never find happiness in death, because it is not a suicide in the sense of a sacrifice for the sake of others or for a greater good.It stems from the selfishness of a weak soul; given the nature of his soul, Nathan should not even be capable of feigning happiness—he is a truly tormented spirit.It is not like the ghosts in Corpse Bride.As I said, it makes more sense for him to die from eating the grapes, because that way, he could at least maintain a mask of happiness.Someone who dies by suicide will never find peace; they will continue to suffer from the very same depression that drove them to commit an act so low for any living being.
>>155994918>It's a fucking cartoon anonIs that what you say when you see that people don’t want to watch your left-wing dogshit on Netflix?You’re pathetic.
>>155993889U
>>155994953To be fair, he seemed mostly the same when he was alive, just better at hiding his issues.We all know suicide is bad anon, the show isn't trying to glorify it, Nathan just couldn't keep going, it wasn't a good decision, but the show has actually showed us multiple times that Nathan was always kinda like that, clearly he just wasn't strong enough to keep going, I dunno why it's so hard for you to accept that.>It is not like the ghosts in Corpse Bride.It is kinda like that now that you mention it actually.>Someone who dies by suicide will never find peace; they will continue to suffer from the very same depression that drove them to commit an act so low for any living being.In theory I guess, but this is a cartoon where you can have a whole afterlife as a ghost, I think he could have some healing.>>155994958You can just say just say you don't like the show lmao, I just think you're taking it the wrong way.
>>155994899One of the biggest flaws in western adult animation.Such topics are never framed as something truly negative, but rather as a "last resort."This is often reinforced by the nonsensical notion that there is nothing after death—that even the worst of human beings will go unpunished, both in death and beyond it, simply because "there is nothing."Not even Haunted hotel could save from it.
>>155995058>never framed as something truly negative, but rather as a "last resort."That's not really what the show is saying about suicide.
reminder that this is an abaddon world are we're all just living in it.
>>155994899>>155995055>but the show has actually showed us multiple times that Nathan was always kinda like that, clearly he just wasn't strong enough to keep going, I dunno why it's so hard for you to accept that.And yet he can still be able to make a "facade", a suicider?The problem is that he serves as the comic relief; the soul of someone who has committed suicide simply shouldn't look or act so normal—it’s as if nothing had ever happened to him.>It is kinda like that now that you mention it actually.This film brilliantly illustrates how morality functions among the dead. All the ghosts are people who died from illness, accidents, murder, war, or old age.They are all happy, and this happiness stands in stark contrast to the living, who seem more dead than the ghosts themselves.However, upon discovering that the Count killed his bride, they turn hostile; by the end, it is implied that they intend to torture the malevolent ghost—they punish the wicked and the selfish.>healingConsidering the first episode of the first season and last episode of the second season, he died not long ago; redemption doesn't just appear out of nowhere.
>>155995074The show indirectly implies this, as Nathan acts with such normalcy; he does not appear genuinely tormented, nor does he seem remorseful or distressed by the act he committed.And like i said, the "facade" thing only works with the living, the death have nothing to hide.
>>155995148I dunno, he wasn't really happy about it when he found out.>the death have nothing to hide.Based on what? He lives with his family, he's undead, clearly he still has secrets.
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>>155995128>soul of someone who has committed suicide simply shouldn't look or act so normalI think suicidal people can look could be completely either very weird or very normal, there's no one way to be honestly.
>>155995180Just because he’s forgotten it doesn’t mean this depression couldn’t affect him again.It simply makes no sense—given the series' themes, its brand of humor, and Nathan’s personality—it makes perfect, goddamn sense that he would die by choking on grapes; the suicide plotline just doesn’t fit.It’s an added layer of complexity that, as I’ve already explained, simply doesn’t work.Even if he has forgotten it, the moment he remembers, he should act like a truly tormented soul—not just brush it off, like, "Oh, that happened.">He lives with his family, he's undead, clearly he still has secrets.You just said Katherine told him how he died, there's nothing else he have to hide.
>>155995217That's an utter nonsense, fucking TADC/Hazbin writing shit.The Soul of a Suicider is a soul who suffers, simply as that, simply as how Ghosts beat Demons, Demons Beat humans and Humans Beat Ghosts.
>>155995232You really gotta let go off the grapes thing man, you're the only one I've seen with this kind of reading on the suicide plot point.>there's nothing else he have to hide.I meant other stuff, there was a bunch of other stuff the demon revealed that Nathan did, like how he spent money that Katherine sent her on horse betting.>>155995251It's a fictional show about fictional ghosts, they can do whatever they want with how they want to portray them.Again, you can just say you don't like it, but don't act like it's somehow illegal or even unheard of.
>>155995276This post only goes to show that you have run out of arguments; you have lost this discussion.
>>155995288My argument was just that you're misunderstanding what the show is trying to say, probably due to strong opinions about how suicide should be portrayed in media.
>>155995337In Western media, this is never presented as something negative that carries real consequences for the selfish individuals who believe they will find peace by taking their own lives.Spoiler: they won’t.The worst part is that this element—Nathan’s suicide—could be removed and completely replaced without affecting the show in the slightest. In fact, it would actually fix it by presenting a simple character who died in a foolish way, with an "unfinished business" that is fundamentally impossible to resolve: maintaining the hotel.(Of course, he would eventually forget about it, which would then lead us to the episode set at the center of the Earth.)
>>155995376You see it as an inherently selfish thing, and while I kinda get it, it also kinda feels like victim blaming.People don't just kill themselves for no reason man, it's the result of extreme mental illnesses, we don't know what happens after, and it's obviously not the right thing to do, but it's not like they're in the right headspace when they make that choice.I don't really think it's any more selfish than simply being too depressed to get out of bed, some people really just can't take it anymore, it's a tragedy more than anything.
>>155995376Again, not trying to change your mind since you're clearly very opinionated about this, so I'll stop now.Probably just gonna ignore you if/when you post again that Nathan died by grape lol
>>155995458>Literally the stupidest, most leftist bullshit i ever read.Just stop man, you lost this discussion already, so please, just stop before you hurt yourself.
i like nathan :)
>reeeee it's leftist you're leftist leftist leftist leftistthis seems like a very sane individual to converse with
>>155995376You're a retard and a pussy
>>155995485>most leftist bullshit>left-wing dogshitLeftist societies generally view suicide poorly, don't know of a single one that has assisted suicide, nor that had one historically aside from one brief period a century ago in the USSR (it was subsequently banned across the entire Comintern). It's generally more of a neoliberal thing. For example assisted suicide is legal in some US states, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, and Switzerland. While it is not legal in China, DPRK, Cuba, Vietnam, Laos, Venezuela, nor seemingly even a single leftist country at present.I don't even generally disagree with you, just saying not philosophical/sociological thing you dislike/disagree with is 'leftist'.
>>155992878Oh no
>>155995485>no counter argument >l-leftist HA I winYou could've just not replied to him, this is beyond pathetic
>>155994613They grew apart & the first time they finally reconnected, she ran away with her loser husband again without much effort. It's likely she wouldn't show up even if Nathan tried. Plus it's clear he's the type of person to hide his sadness & negativity as much as possible.>>155994672It leaves it open to the idea of a suicide for an accident that isn't physically visible on his ghost self. Begs the question of who even called the police & ambulance over his death though.
>>155992506as long as it's not incest
>>155991719Ohh I then I don't think I've ever seen this one! Tbh I really don't like the anchor point vectors although being very manipulative, I'm more of a "paint brush" lineart kinda guy hauahaua>>155992464Can't wait to draw her more! At the job rn so I can only do it traditionally so it may not become as good as I want, buut as I said in the last thread: just do it even if it doesn't end pretty.>>155992818>>155992826Ohhh I see it now! Ok this always gets on my nerves and I always make my drawings large so the "defocus" isn't as bad.Now about these vectors, you can still for example, paint inside a vector circle, correct?
I feel like I've seen a rise of art for Kathy trimming Abaddon's nails lately, even though that was a comment in season 1.
>>155995604>>155995662Larp more
>>155996206>this is beyond pathetic>Still replies Leftists like you are far beyond pathetic, actually.
>>155995058>This is often reinforced by the nonsensical notion that there is nothing after deathMost people will probably disagree with the idea that there is nothing or soul just evaporates after death, but how on Earth it is "nonsensical"?
>>155993015Need more episodes of just these three doing stuff
>>155995662Canada, Spain, & Australia are extremely leftist.
>>155996455>question of who even called the police & ambulance over his death though.>>155836694
>>155997675
>>155997627>wall of textLike >>155995376
>>155997149It's a line from season 1, but he was running around in all fours and acting more creaturelike this season.
>>155997770Shayna is more likely than Joel or anyone in the town. Nathan had nobody in his life except Abaddon & that's not very helpful.
>>155997793.....the simplest arguement to refute anything or anyone is to kill them, tho.....
>>155997798> doesn't justify suicideLarp more, leftist swine.
>>155997824How many years shayna says she was in te hotel?
>>155997871"Nothing matters because we are all gonna die some day and there's Nothing afterlife just darkness"Mfs the moment they are about to meet their end due wharever reason:
>>1559979232 I'm pretty sure.
>>155997909beyond broken lol
>>155997992>beyond broken lolprojecting lol
ummm haz- haunted hotel?
Return to talking about the Possessed Place at ONCE!
>>155997940No, it's more like:>I'm right about [*insert topic here*]>No you're not. [*BANG!*]If they're dead and you're alive, you are correct by default. It's in the Bible, people
>>155998084still works other way.
>>155998075Agreed. More demon shota art, please
DEMON WIFE
>>155998084>that pic and filenameI know who and what you are
>>155993694Is it? Aside from a slightly strange shaped head he’s pretty normal looking. Definitely not what I would call ugly>>155994641The who
>>155997940absurdism is coolernothing matters and we're all gonna die and in a few years we will be forgotten and it's gonna be like we never even existed at allso why get caught up on the small things? If we only get one life shouldn't we try to enjoy it more? it's not like it's gonna matter in the LONG long run so just live it up
>>155998417The most disgusting piece of shit I’ve ever read in my life; only leftists think like this. Go back to fuck yourself on Bluesky, waste of breath.
>>155998316Pic is estherdonfag cope, he likes them old.
>>155998546He likes both
>>155998486....I'm sorry, since when does accepting the fleeting nature of life make one a libtard? Did I miss a meeting?
>>155998832When you start being a fag about it.
>>155998832By thinking there's nothing after and you can be a piece of shit and think you will go unpunished.
>>155998898And why is it that there must be some kind of ultimate fate for those we deem as "bad"? Or "good", for that matter? What do we gain from the concept of a place of eternal torture or bliss? Do you really think that and that alone keeps us from butchering our neighbors on a whim?
>>155999097Yes. These concepts are literally what civilization is built on.
>>155999097You leftists literally did than in France.
>>155999131>>155999147Civilization is built on the idea of "Dont fuck with me and I won't fuck with you." Its the barest of leashes to keep us in line that ultimately has no basis in reality and can be cast aside at a moment's notice. The involvement of a magic sky man acting as a back up plan to step in at the end is irrelevant, all told.
>>155995102>>155995193Kek>>155996659Incest is kino actually >>155997721Very cute, love how they drew the faces
>>155995193The FUCK did you just call me, you little shit?!
>>155999332Your most retarded quote so far.Leftist worthy in ignorance.
>>155991517reminder that Free Spirit Ben is still out there somewhere living his best life.
>>155999332You're wrong & stupid.
>>155999788I loved how this time one of his doubles actually lives his own life instead of returning to the person that created it
>>155995193Anon you can't just say that kinda stuff so brazenly.
>>155999557>>155999809Debate me and show me why, then.
>>155999838
>>155999869You got something better than googled memes, anon?
>>155998546He doesn’t, he can’t even tell them apart>>155997923Good question
>>155999869The Nazis had a strong moral code of killing anyone deemed inferior on general principle, the fuck is your point?
>>155999908 Religion established what morality is; the seven deadly sins and the seven cardinal virtues should be the easiest example for an ass-scratching ape like you to grasp.
>>155999788>>155999826I wonder if he'll ever get a cameo reappearance or something.
>>155999908Please stop replying to the retard.
>>155999939And does that mean all of this should be demonized?... Ok, what are you— a leftist or some kind of "sewer-dwelling Indian" of the modern age?Your ancestors must be deeply disappointed to see how people like you have turned a large part of India into an unrecognizable dump.
>>155999962>the seven deadly sins and the seven cardinal virtuesConcepts written down centuries after Jesus died that were borrowed from Plato figuring them out a good millennium beforehand. Next?
>>156000036>Samefagging"Beyond Pathetic" he said, lmao.
>>156000062How about something much more simple?: the concept of heaven and hell across all religions.The good go to a realm of peace;the bad go to a dark place of punishment or suffering.
>>156000041Point being that morality is entirely subjective, and that to try to enforce objective truths based upon it is hubris, at best. Im not so much demonizing the concept as much as I am pointing out its flaws.
>>156000140Being a Depressed Nilihist doesn't make you any better, in fact is the opposite.
>>155999972Hope he will in some kind of special
>>156000131Hell was borrowed from the Norse idea of Hélheim, which was the place everyone that didnt die in battle went to instead of Valhalla. The earliest Jewish texts make no mention of Hell, simply that the wicked spend eternity "distant" from God. Other religions that have a concept of punishment after death almost always make it a temporary place where your bad karma gets used up, so to speak, before you move on to whatever. It's all just stories we tell ourselves to make sense of a senseless universe that legitimately can not care if we exist or not. The fact we've spent most of our history going to war over our silly stories about the world is just gravy.>>156000219Who said anything about "better"?
>>156000131Sadducees believed in God but didn't believe in afterlife. Christian Annihilationists don't believe in Hell since it causes so many theological problems. Mormons believe that only apostates end up in Hell (even sorcerers and idolaters are saved but if their reward is lesser). Dharmic religions don't believe that Heaven(s) or Hell(s) are permanent. Most "pagan" religions believe that almost all people end up in gray, cold, cave-like Underworld and only really special persons are punished or rewarded (also this one is in the Old Testament). My point in the end is, this is a thread about a comedy cartoon involving a wacky family and silly ghosts. This whole discussion about theology and philosophy and history and politics is entirely pointless.
>>156000330Whatever the names, is the same concept.Land of peace, land of torment>Who said anything about "better"?You: >>155998417
>>155999838This isn't debate class & you're just looking to argue. Fuck off.
>>156000442>all anons are the sameRacist......
>>156000426You know how Hades was divided into three parts, right?The Elysian Fields,Hades itself,and Tartarus.>This whole discussion about theology and philosophy and history and politics is entirely pointless.Then they should not make Nathan a victim of suicide.
Grape anon seems like the kind of person that loses their shit over something like this
>>156000483Doesn't deny you sure agree with that retard
>>155999788I wonder if Ben suffers negatively because of it
>>156000557And this is?
>>156000557>Grape anonI was thinking of calling him grape schizo.
>>155913520> (except maybe the Hindus, but they haven't been through shit til recently) depends what you mean by "recently', they've been terrorized by muzzies pretty much ever since they bursted onto thescene
>>156000591And you Nilihitard, hope not see you next thread.
>>155995288>>155995251>>155997909I love these…>>155997923Actually a good question, I don’t think we’re told but probably a while if Pete was never awoken
>>155999972>episode where Ben suddenly gets some sea sickness and they have to find FS Ben to save him
>>155999939>and other flanderized view points of history to share
>>156000131>>156000330>>156000426Actually actually Norse people had a very interesting way of perceiving the afterlife. If you died in battle, those who wished to spend their death in peace would go to Fólgvangr in Vanaheim, those who wished to continue to war were sent to Odin's personal army, Valhalla; the farmers and rural people would go to Bilskirnir in Þrúðheimr where they could continue their farm life; the virgin women would help Gefjon plow the earth for new settlements while the drowned would spend eternity in Rán's realm; even Helheim was nothing more than an afterlife where people who died of old age or illness would go to "rest" and only Niflheim, specificallt Náströnd would be the place for the worst of the worst, where they would be consumed by Níðhöggr.To them, the afterlife was just another "life", not eternal suffering or eternal bliss, just eternal "life" doing what you've been doing when alive.>>155990566>>155992464Also I finished Azazel's armor and a little redesign of her!
>>156000607Wrong anon, bub.
>>156000426Didn't Gehenna or Sheol are like Hell?
>>156000630Nice, but you forgot to rotate it.
>>156000630Why is it sideways??? It's normal when I took the photo
>>155999908you don’t do yourself any favors when you trot out memes like yourself man just saying
>>156000140>Point being that morality is entirely subjectiveAwesome, I’ll be killing you now and raping your family and I expect no quarrel about it, thanks for that
>>156000652Yes but technically different from the fire & brimstone punishment depictions of modern hell. I forget the specifics.
>>156000630>To them, the afterlife was just another "life", not eternal suffering or eternal bliss, just eternal "life" doing what you've been doing when alive.They are the life force of a living being in its ethereal form, a "soul"; for this reason, I believe that ghosts should not be equated with the undead.
>>156000718You will rot in hell
>>156000330The concept of Hell is definitely older than Christian interaction with Norse worldviews. Other religions do factually have a place where you go to and don’t come back from. Islam and Buddhism off the top of my head.
>>155996229Based KEKsther making dykes seethe with her straight ‘unny
Okay, see you later.>>156000797
>>156000559Im not that retard but lets actually break down what hes saying: ultimately nothing matters, so why not live life how you want to. I wouldn't say that's inherently "better" than having God(s) being the final arbiter of all things. If anyone claims it is then they're just as much as a pretentious douche as any religionfag declaring themselves to be the ONLY way
>>156000678I don't how to because in my cellphone it's already in the right position, just in 4chan is like this.>>156000630Also just forgot to add that these are just SOME of the afterlives, because each god has their own hall with their own people, as well as Alfheim also being a place of afterlife too. The norsemen believed you would go to the realm/hall of the god you believed in. That's ome of the reason I like Norse mythology soo much!
>>156000680Try rotating it a couple of times before posting, this is common.
>>155997824>>155997923It was her predecessor
>>156000850>I don't how to because in my cellphone it's already in the right positionRotate it the other way around, then rotate it back again, and then post it.
>>156000846Well, you're a fucking retard nihilist like Nihilitard, you will be Nilihitard 2.
>>156000718>I expect no quarrel about itYeah, thats not how this works. You rape me, I rape you. Simple as.
>>156000852>>156000873Hmmm I can't cuz it's a duplicate file now. Meh, let's just keep it that way hauahua when I digitalize her, I will post again
>>156000763Nope, that doesn’t exist>>156000882Why? On what grounds?
>>156000943>that doesn’t existDenial—a foolish comfort for a leftist and a bad person who believes they will go unpunished for their misdeeds.He will make you suffer.
>>156000943Law of the jungle. Kill or be killed. If nothing stops you from harming me, why would you ever assume that there would be anything stopping me from doing the same to you?
>>156001037There's a difference between animals and us. Conscience and Empathy, this is why we are "Blessed" beings
>>156000936In the next thread I will post again, this time hope it will be in the right direction
>>156000775Christianity is 500 years older than Islam.
>>155999502Incest is overdone you want it just stay in the Loud house threads
>>156000330>It's all just stories we tell ourselves to make sense of a senseless universe that legitimately can not care if we exist or not. The fact we've spent most of our history going to war over our silly stories about the world is just gravy.Depressed Nilihists are one of the worst people ever.
>>156000718Try to kill a mama bear's cubs, you'll see the closest thing to 'morality' in the wild, and she didnt need a rabbi to teach her.
>>156001099Bantu tribes in Africa still eat pygmies, when they're not raping them. They literally don't see them as 'people' and never did before the white man forced them to. Because they are dumber ("rocks in their heads" is a common way for Bantus to describe them) and seen as more of an animal, the Bantu's "human morality" doesn't apply to them.
>>155998898There is nothing after. There was nothing before.
>>155999869See >>156001490 You cant have a strong society with with born savages who laugh at your culture's morals.
>>156001344Correct. Doesn’t change what I said.
>>156000041The whole continent of India was conquered by 700 brits, then they willingly left. Theres not much to be proud of.
>>156000986Just saying that’s the logic being used here>>156001037Because it doesn’t matter that’s made up you should let me do whatever >>156001400If they were smart they would see that silly and they should let me do that
>>156001377Incest is good the loud house is finished it will live on beyond that
>>156001629Sounded like you were saying Islam is older, my bad.
