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Jakekat edition

QOTT: thoughts of the newest HSBC update?
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>>156047988
the links anon the fucking links
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>>156047982
Everyone say thanks grandma!
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>John and Vriska fusion (PERMANENT) to create the one true protagonist, fulfilling the promise of trans John and trans Vriska at the same time
You rike?
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>>156048021
was really funny seeing anons complain about the links for like 2 weeks straight and now nobody complains about it anymore lel
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>>156047988
>QOTT: thoughts of the newest HSBC update?
I HATE DAVEKAT SO FUCKING MUCH, Jake is slowly becoming more and more of a interesting character with his lil dirk-self mind thing. I really just want to go back to the candy timeline, and one more thing, can we stop with the meta narrative????
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>>156048057
now edit this to make it Jade jumping at John
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>>156048066
meta narrative has been on hs since forever
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>>156048064
>>156048064
>>156048064

Didn't see someone made this thread but considering how I already made this one I'll just put it here and let the anons decide which thread lives and dies.
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>>156048021
Here you go anon
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>>156048085
we're already using this one
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>>156048085
DEATH !!!
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>>156048085
>one looks like ass and the other looks actually good

oh idk
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Jade is now reading Homestuck.
What will she think of it?
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>>156047988
>>156048023
>>156048043

Previous Session:>>156031939 (Cross-thread)

Homestuck Resources:
https://homestuck.net/resources/booru/

The best way to read homestuck:
https://uhca.carrd.co
Android ver:
https://github.com/ltnkrieg/homestuck-collection-android

WHITEBOARD!
https://r8.whiteboardfox.com/87610124-4502-3476

MAGMA!
https://magma.com/d/ul9Fe3Msg9

ah shit sorry i dropped all my links here sorry
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Jade please
Jade trust me
Stop reading at Cascade
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>>156048080
I know but it just feels like more filler now
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>>156048124
>next 8000 pages of HSBC would be just a homestuck reread but with jade's commentary
you rike?
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Too much Aradia on the whiteboard
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>>156048023
Wasn't me :p
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>>156048153
never too much.
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>>156048108
Such is nature....
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>>156048153
never enough aradia
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so why's the new team screaming into my face about how much they love davekat. it's honestly even worse than the last team. I seriously don't get how so many don't find it just a tad bit boring at this point. like it's not even about the nature of the ship itself, I kinda just want them to not feel hypnotized into constantly talking and loving each other like they were hit by cupid arrows.
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>>156048178
retarded useless fujos in charge
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>>156048178
they didnt really scream it. theyre just actually making the two talk unlike in hs1 where they didnt even have that much. its getting like a bit better
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I'm in a discord call with the love of my life
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>>156048207
you love vriska serket?
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What would be a good first Homestuck NSFW drawing?
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>>156048080
It's getting kinda overplayed if you ask me, or at least it's done in a pretty trite way. Dirk and Jake's talk was fine and all, arguably being the strongest part of this update but it's hard not to notice much of was just a glorified meta-commentary on Dave.
Jade and Calliope was a better execution of this meta fuckery closer to classic homestuck, but then again I've been spoiled by MTM already so it didn't blow my mind the way it might to a newfag who doesn't read any mspfas(why would you live like this?)
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>>156048226
vriska shaking her fat ass with her canon tits
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>>156048226
John fucking jade Harley of course.
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>>156048235
what do you mean meta commentary on dave?
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>>156048124
>Jade reads Homestuck and gets radicalized against postcanonshit
Funniest outcome, I'm gonna need a fic of this.
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>>156048256
she already has seen the epilogues... have you actually even read the update?
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How is everyone today :D
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>>156048178
im enjoying jake wanting to fuck karkar let me tell ya.
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id like to see jade read problem sleugh.
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so i guess karkat really is the sleeve.
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So uhhh cosplay anyone????
I said I would gather selfie pics so here they are, cosplay dump selfie edition I suppose!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdemFfbS5H0
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The very concept of Jake killing Dave has now entered my mind. A very literal Page of Hope.
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>>156048291
>what is this Problem Sooth knock off
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>>156048277
you're somewhat late today
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>>156048300
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>>156048310
It's because I'm WORKING at my JOB that I fucking HATE.
ToT

I wanna be a neeeeeet
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>>156048313
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HSG HEAR ME OUT.

jake and dave fucking karkat at the same time while bickering and fighting with eachother. is this better?
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>>156048200
>its getting like a bit better
>this
>better
Please raise your standards, I'm fucking begging you
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>>156048269
Yes, I know. I'm not sure how that goes against what I said. She read the garbage, now she'll read the good thing. Like Al said, "the bitterness of the epilogues will make coming back to homestuck so much sweeter." Just connect the dots and you have that outcome.
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>>156048332
stop posting it it's making me suicidal
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>>156048328
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>>156048326
you work everyday even at REST DAYS?
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>>156048207
Andrew we've been over this, you're going to ditch her for a newer vriska cosplayer in 5 years
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>>156048332
Unironically like 100x worse than the dialogue that led up to the davekat kiss. How is that even possible.
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>>156048348
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>>156048331
I'll do you better: jake and dave hatefucking while karkat watches
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>>156048335
its not in the way you think. shes reading the things she has suferred thru. obviously she isnt going to like it. its not a jab at the writing
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>>156048332
1. i like dave's little rap at the start, it reminds me of him in act 4 and 5
2.getting more dialogue makes anything develop more for good or worse
3.the confirmation that dave has a big dick is great for other reasons.
now, i do not like how sex focused this is.
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>>156048332
Nice shoutout to piggy herself so fans know who canonized this mentally ill crap
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>>156048404
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>>156048418
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>>156048359
love crossplay
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>>156048254
Or perhaps rather on dave and davekat as a whole, pic related but especially
>JAKE: But living with him these past few years i find myself asking more often than not "what is it that dave strider actually does?"
>JAKE: And the answer ive come to ultimately is nothing.

>JAKE: That halfshafted hasbeen didnt even have the guts to consummate his own relationship without your wretched puppeteering!
These are among the top complaints about nu-dave and davekat you could find on /hsg/ and any places shitting on HSBC as a whole
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>>156048428
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Jade is about to retcon Homestuck
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>>156048431
>following the words of meat john means he must end davekat
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>>156048349
Yeah .. I got laid off recently. Been having to work every day basically to make ends meet until I can stabilize again. Just my luck this came in October when I had to draw every day.

But I hate being a bummer. I would rather bring good vibes <3
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>>156048439
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>>156048431
>These are among the top complaints about nu-dave and davekat you could find on /hsg/ and any places shitting on HSBC as a whole
this seems a bit self-centered dont you think? not every thing a character says about another one is a hit piece on fandom
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>>156048305
In Problem sooth, instead of being flooded by rain water, Pickle Incenser's tent is filled with sand for breaking the pharaoh's curse.
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>>156048456
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>>156048443
>Jade starts reading Homestuck
>Suddenly, June
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>>156048485
junejade won anon
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>>156048474
Dirk please put on your glasses, I dont need to see your eye bro
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what if... aranea cosplayer but male.
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>>156048493
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>>156048443
That'd be the icing on the HSBC shit cake if they swap HS1 with HS2 in the canonicity sweepstakes
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>>156048443
>retcons Bec into a female dog
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>>156048443
jade harley erasing gay dave
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>>156048489
NOOOOO
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>>156048503
AAAAAAAAAND THAT IS IT, That's all the selfies I could find in a short notice, here's a bonus pic i found lmao, tfw you'll never have this.
Regardless, hope you enjoyed this rounds of cosplay, I know I do!

>>156048503
I think I have one saved or someone in a archive but never saved it, I'll deep dive later
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id like to share these as well.
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>>156048452
I didn't say it's a hit piece though, just that it's so plainly meta it feels kinda trite, especially since jake's rant comes immediately after a few pages of god-fucking-awful davekat dialogue.
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>>156048448
I also just wanted to take a moment to thank all you /HSG/ guys. You really make my day, and make it easier to get through the tough ones.

My only regret is I can't do more for you guys. So I hope to see you all in these threads more.
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>>156048531
Silly me, I missed one, okay okay THIS is the last one
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>>156048535
>heir of breath stank
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>>156048443
JADE-SAMA PLEASE UNFUCK THE GAME OVER RETCON SO THAT WE GET A BETTER ENDING
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why is jade imagining john's stink... prospitcest anon what does this mean?
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>best song in the new album is the dirk one
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>>156048493
I wish orange-colored eyes were real...
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do you guys like my chud foid daughter i just birthed her
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>>156048538
dude. just accept that jake doesnt like dave not everything has triple-meanings
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>>156048579
this is just green miku
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>>156048574
alexandria genesis syndrome is real anon.
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>>156048493
as soon as I stop being scared of using eye contacts it's over for you fucks
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>>156048542
same to you friend. its not easy but im glad for being here with u.
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>>156048579
she cute, I like the sign
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>>156048538
you're right and that other anon is legitimately retarded
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>>156048588
well she does love troll hatsune miku....
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>>156048571
Oh, right, the album. I forgot to check that.
>nig kids on half the cover artworks
>vrisrezi and callieroxy
>lardrezi
Yuck.
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>Jade is going to ensure that Bec isn't prototyped, derailing the entire comic
All because she wanted her vagina back
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>>156048571
link us I wanna listen to them
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>>156048624
https://homestuck.bandcamp.com/album/paradise-planet
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>>156048612
stop dissing fat rezi bruv.
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>>156048630
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>>156048608
not everything is about hsg or bc haters, anon.
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Hiveswap is a great series for lolishos because it is a planet full of children only
Think about it
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The very next page of HSBC will feature the name June
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>>156048651
it has nothing to do with hsg, it is absolutely commentary on common criticisms of dave amongst the crowd of people who dislike davekat/the epilogues
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Threads going fast!
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>>156048666
hopefully. theres been enough time for that bitch to show up
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>>156048666
nice devil digits anon.
its gonna happen.
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>>156048658
ur lowk right anon
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sex?
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sex
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Today's rereading is 4800-5000
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>>156048689
That one image of the blue blood who goes "I'm barely not a grub y'know?" While looking at her 4 sweep old panties.
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>>156048658
Also because the cast was explicitly 13 for most of the story's runtime.
Grimdark Rose? Jade without dog ears? 13 years old and not a notch higher.
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consent??
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>al: it was condescending of me to demand your cooperation without allowing you the full context of your place in all this. how are you supposed to help me save the work if you haven't seen its full scope?
>al: after this you will understand, more than anyone, why all of this needs to be [FINISHED].

Jade's not going to retcon homestuck btw. this is a contract in which jade gets control of her body in return to understanding canon. "to challenge her perspective" as callie says. just saying it for the ones that haven't read or understood.
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>>156048740
I age down all of the act 6 characters subconsciously because I'm addicted to shotas.

I don't *care* if Dirk is like 15. I will age him down.
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>>156048658
Are Hiveswap characters younger than Homestuck (pre-act 6)'s cast of thirteen year olds? Because if not, the same could be said for Homestuck. And yet almost no one does anything with that. Almost.
>>156048776
You will what?
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>>156048783
You heard me!

Ill age down all you anons too. I am Dr.Groom
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>>156048629
wow the dirk one really is the best one. our goat saving this terrible album
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>>156048776
Meenah........
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we are NOT doing this again.
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>>156048788
which one is the dirk one
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>>156048658
the REAL reason why Condie told all the adult trolls to get the fuck out of Alternia
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John sending Jake a goodbye letter implies that he knew he was gonna die against LE and that he probably sent one to the rest of his friends we've still yet to see.
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>>156048776
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turn on the tv it doesn't matter what channel
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>>156048806
rumble in the pumpkin patch
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>>156048806
The shortest one, of course. Rumble in da Pumpkin Patch.
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>>156048802
Lolification is patrician. It’s the only way to get out the liberal arts degree, woke beliefs, politics, and eagerness to suck random dicks because they will bring career benefits
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>>156048089
Pretty clever anon...
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>>156048827
>>156048832
>>156048788
mr. officer/idontgetit is kinda fire though hold on
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>>156048847
You know sometimes I feel that Homestuck art is not expressive enough to be a detriment to the comic. But this one panel. It's perfectm
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>>156048571
Why does Dave get dubstep dogshit while Dirk gets this how is this even remotely fair
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>>156048825
>John on the last day of pride month
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>>156048158
Anon why did you drop this while the thread was ending ? Vibri making an ICE joke ? I want to know more now...
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>>156048849
the beat switch ruined it so hard
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new fat meulin dropped on the 'ru
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>>156048869
thats all that it is anon. i dont think nothing else happened
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cya hsg, gonna shower cuz I STINK
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>>156048884
Wow. Showering anon. Very cool.
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>>156048870
that beat is literally sounds like a call me if you get lost/igor by tyler the creator beat
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>>156048884
Why does morning renity look like she barfed on her shirt
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>>156048893
i get guess what i mean is the follow on the beat switch, the beat itself is good
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>>156048884
shower? showers are for normgroids anon
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>>156048880
At least it's funny to know that someone decided to snitch on the HS team and took the risk of getting kicked out...kek
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>the look i give to the anon who disagrees with me
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Comic that features Vriska getting molested by an old guy. This is kind of like selfcest since they share the same soul and sensations.
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>>156048931
"im gonna kill da dirk myself!!! she thinks she's the Heir what a dork.
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>>156048955
the murderous intent is in the family, son.
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we should curse pinterest for not letting me download video of readthrough homestuck where terezi's laugh was replaced with pig squeals i'm laughing so hard rn
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>>156048876
Famin ruined my brain, now i love fat women even though most of them looks like pic related
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>>156048969
ma'am, your inspect element function?
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>>156048931
>the look foidanon gives me when she realizes she hafta fit allat in her mouth
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>>156048931
Is that from Nepetaquest ?
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>>156049002
No it's from the BC update
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>>156049001
no this is the look i give after i see its 3 inches.
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>>156049039
Orihime?
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>>156049051
The most obvious Jade ever
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>>156049039
lmao
I'd actually pay money to see someone AIslop Terezi into a Zatoichi flick
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>>156049051
So obviously Jade that it doesn’t even need to be said.
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>>156049049
at least you didn't laughed at poor boy. you're kinder than you ever thought
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>>156049051
Roxy
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read the upd8, my hatred for the meat timeline has been further galvanized.
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>>156048876
sex
but also, fatter
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>>156049101
>but also, fatter
your greed disgusts me, anon
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>>156049093
what character is at fault?
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please don't kill dirk
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>>156049083
Ugly lizard
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>>156049093
What about candy timeline, are you saying you don't hate it?
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The page that saved act 6
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i want jake to fuck karkat so him and dave strife to the death
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>>156049250
Kanaya and her bug eyes...
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>>156049190
Candy at least has SOME ups to go with its many, many downs
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>>156049172
>>156049093
Jesus is smoking weed while Mother Mary is getting from (allegedly) Lucifer
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>>156049190
Candy timeline is objectively more interesting and an overall better read than Meat after John's death. Nothing ever happens in Meat.
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>>156049358
Deltritus falls under Meat tho
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>>156049376
ok that's cheating
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>>156049376
No it doesn't. Deltritus is already corrupted by Candy influence.
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Look at my Muse bro
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>>156049405
>youre pathetic.
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>>156049405
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>>156049405
I look like this, do this, and say this
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>>156049433
yUo are dead. shUt Up.
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>>156049405
looking foolish
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>>156049405
KWAB
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>>156049405
If being a Muse means you can't do jackshit then how'd she make that huge black hole?
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>>156049405
outside of the "haha she's pathetic", it's clear she wouldnt kneel if she didnt have an actual plan right?
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i lowk fw that davedirk fujo dirksona
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>>156049483
Calliope's lawyer over here
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>>156049503
no nigga im just curious
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>>156049483
Golly anon, the most passive class in the game, who is defined by inactivity and acting through others, literally named MUSE, is working to inspire another to activity and ability. I wonder if it's part of her plan?
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>>156049494
You should make one of her girlfriend. But good job anon, it looks really sweet.
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>>156049480
The universe was being destroyed bc of the kids leaving this world, so she used this energy, but she can't make that energy
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>>156049503
>>156049531

no asking questions allowed
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>>156049531
lol lmao we are still acting like active and passive still mean anything l
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>>156049535
a what
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>>156049551
yes? callie literally says jade is the most active besides lord. did you read?
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>>156049480
>>156049539
I feel people misunderstand what active and passive mean. Passive doesnt mean do nothing as much as it means doing through non direct means. Muses like calliope are one of the most important characters in the story, who permeate almost every single character, unlike Caliborn who only acts through people he directly controls or is related to.

But more over. Muses *can* act directly, it is just not their natural state. I.E alt calliope in act 7. Passive classes are REACTIVE and active classes are PROACTIVE. Passive classes can and will fucking destroy you if you poke them enough. John is at his strongest when being directed, given direction, thus you see his power explode in such cases. Rather than someone like dave, who, while at first acting on directions, eventually graduates to being the resident busy body of the whole session, managing it and making it run smoothly on his own.
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>>156049575
more of a general complaint I am not talking specifically about homestuck 2
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>>156049494
omg she's perfect... let me draw you something in return
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>>156049569
her girlfriend is daik! hehe
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>>156049600
i agree! this is a super cute. i like how she is wearing sweatpants...

>>156049611
*blushes*

in other news im finally free from work
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>>156049590
>John is at his strongest when being directed
he literally died after being directed to do something though
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>JADE please i need this!
>my meat is kinda homeless.
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the way meat dave talks about jade in the update is pretty sad. the way he talks about killing dirk like it's no big deal is pretty sad. the way he shit talks jake is pretty sad. the way he shit talks jane is pretty sad. the way he barely ever mentions the complete disappearance of john and the kidnapping of rose throughout all of post-canon is pretty sad. everything is just davekat with him and if it isnt then he just doesn't care. I don't know why the writers insist on making him so unlikeable.
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>>156049635
to ascend you must first descend,
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>>156049656
I hope that a joke
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>>156049643
>the way he talks about jake is sad
>mf trying to fuck his boyfriend
>supposed to like him?!
what is this logic
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>>156049661
yeah it is.

but on a more serious note john playing into "the evil bad rape english plan" and also "evil ass rape plan vriska edition" is fine, because, even in doing so he is there to fight with rose, who he then revives, and since hes god tier thanks to vriska, it all works out. Well, "works out"
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>>156049671
if he actually thought that then he'd do something about it, he just hates jake on general principle
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>>156049643
yes. BEYOND CANON SUCKs cock.
pls give me bobo and ly'lac antics...
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>>156049643
i need yall to stop thinking like this. its obvious that dave is being possesive of karkat and that lessens his relationship with other. he is an asshole because of davekat yes, but its not a "le writers bro bro" thing
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>>156049695
run away anon, you're too smart for this thread
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>>156049680
i am talking about terezi's evil ass rape plan
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anons need a "this characters action is bad for them" or a "you should feel this emotion" bar at the lower right of the screen to understand things
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>>156049680
"retcon yourself back into canon and go fight lord english but not with us grab some other fucks or something" also ended up notoriously bad for him
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>>156049695
ok. well i still hate it, and since you're saying all of this intentional, then I guess my hate is even more justified? davekat being written as a bad thing doesn't help anyone here.
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>>156049704
oh well that, yeaah, that doesnt end well for him. but thems the breaks. His easy going nature is his best and worst trait.
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>>156049730
the hell do i know. just letting you know that that mindset never leads to any meaninful thinking
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>>156049748
the hell kind of mindset should i have then
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>>156049717
>>156049695
it has never been made clear (or even hinted at) that dave is self sabotaging with his relationship with karkat, so how is anyone supposed to draw this conclusion beyond wishful thinking
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>>156049764
i have no words.
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>>156049735
if thats the best you got, stop trying to analyze homestuck you are pretty bad at it.
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>>156049759
a deeper level of thinking more than what the characters are saying on the screen
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this image is very funny. also idc much for al sorry she just posses jade body and makes her a prisioner on her own body and i hate it. i just want jade to have control on her life for once.
i hope jade absorbs al or something.
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>>156049783
well i mean thats what classpects are. and what they mean for characters.

heirs are privileged and have an easy time with their powers/aspect. John is naturally easy going, and goes with the flow, and usually that works out for him. But when he lets that aspect of himself get the better of him he suffers for it. Too trusting, to friendly, not speculative enough.

Not to mention, him dying is because he was *cheating* at the game so to speak, and not even particularly competently. John above all of the other beta kids is truly meant to immerse himself in the sort of infantilized sandbox of sburb, because he is the type of person who needs it most. him trying to skip over parts of it is harmful to him, and the timeline as a whole, and so he dies for it.
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>>156049798
lol
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jade and john killing dirk together would be awesome too.
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god i love meat jade sm. i reaaaaaally like how she is being writen so far now.
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>>156048629
>Ends of a jade rose song
They had like 2 fucking convos in the main comic why the fuck does the team hate Kanaya so fucking much.
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>>156049851
>and usually that works out for him
and when it doesn't? we can go on and on about how aspects and classes matter, but if hussie wants to do something different he can just ignore it.
oh character A is being passive while he has an active class, holly shit!!!
oh character B is being active while having passive class, Fuck!!!
it doesn't matter and it never did
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>>156047988
new update sux but at this point that's like saying water is wet
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>>156049890
but seriously who would read the epilogues first and then later homestuck? feels like the worst way to start.
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is the new meat jade content just gonna effectively be jade route 2
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>>156049643
No you dont get it bro dave & karkat emotionally isolating themselves from everyone else so they can be all up in their shit all day every day is a very good thing that's amazingly written and you should be happy about it every single time it gets shoved into your face (aka every time either of them get focus) both as a one of the billions of davekat fanatics who would cut themselves if their garbage broke up and as a deep thinking connoisseur like >>156049695
who's able to deduce that the ship is actually intentionally supposed to be unhealthy believe it or not like the doctorates they are as they make sure to inform you that the smelly shit you hate is in fact supposed to be smelly shit and that you're stupid for wanting something better.
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>>156049782
believe it or not you actually can't just make up character motivations, the text has to deliver them to the reader in some capacity
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>>156049977
maybe a little bit
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>>156049904
jaderose is the human version of katnep

oh!

>>156049918
well sure i could see that. Classpects and their effects on the story were an addition later on and a lot of the vagueness of it was a vehicle to allow it to fit for a lot of different characters. is that a failure of classpects as a concept? thats kinda up to you to decide. but the fact of the matter is that its an element of the story *now*, and so retroactively looking through characters through the classpecting lenses is i think a valuable thing to do.

and more over, John being so passive because he is a POV character is not just a classpect thing, but just a writing thing in general.

regardless its pretty clear the difference between act 5 johns highs of doing cool shit at the behest of other people to help someone elses plan, and someone like jade who is the one orchestrating a lot of the plan herself, even more than rose. reactive vs proactive. and the same can be said for someone like aradia vs someone like karkat. Aradia is the leader who got shit done, but it was always in direct service to the english plan. Karkat does what he does in a bid to become the leader he desires, and out of desire to help his friends.
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>>156049904
I've seen quite a few twittards shill for jaderose for some unfathomable reason. No idea why, but if I had to guess it's for the sake of human-human yuri and muh potential and all that shitty drama in the post-canon not sure why they can't go for the obviously janeroxy instead
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>>156048813
Didn't we read him make the letters in the epilogues
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>>156049990
i did not, infact say any of that
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>>156050011
to get to janeroxy you need to actually read the comic
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>Defending davekat of all writing decisions
The state of hsg
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>>156050020
>i need yall to stop thinking like this. its obvious that dave is being possesive of karkat and that lessens his relationship with other. he is an asshole because of davekat yes, but its not a "le writers bro bro" thing
Is this not you trying to sell the fact that davekat sucking is intentional?
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god dont make me read hs again pls
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gonna read sburb.exe again ngl
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>>156050055
i did not say that you need to be happy about it nor that its a good writing decision. really showing your reading comprehension right there
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>>156050065
We're a little over halfway through it in the reread, it's not too late to join us!
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What if this update is a slap on the face for nu fans that didnt read the main comic before jumping on BC
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Reading cojoined session right now
I feel like I should get annoyed at these two for being such massive raging faggots for each other and yet, against all odds, I actually kinda dig what they have going on.
Weird.
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>>156050085
>spends an hour arguing that davekat sucking is actually an intentional writing decision with narrative purpose
>never once clarify that you still think it totally sucks and is a bad writing decision anyways
got it
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>>156050129
Please don't remind me "people" like this exist, I was hoping it was an urban myth until I spotted one in the wild some time ago
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>>156049998
hsbc writers write something other than their own fanfics into the story challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
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>>156050129
>nu fans that didnt read the main comic
subhumans like that exist?!
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>>156050183
she needs to fall onto my penis at terminal velocity
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i like davekat and current bc but im just an anon so it doesnt matter
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>>156050215
You are an enemy of Christ
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>>156050183
What the fuck happened to Aranea after game over anyway?
Shouldn't she still be around or did her massive fuck up cause her to hide in shame for all eternity?
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>>156050215
we hate you
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>>156050113
i already read hs twice i dont think i want that again...
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>>156050224
i introduced her to motherhood and made nurse our baby grub
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>>156050215
that is ok. i just hate how davekat is writen on bc but the couple itself is fine by me.
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>>156050215
hsg is all sheep nowadays kek. they all think the same
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>>156050002
>is that a failure of classpects as a concept?
yes

>retroactively looking through characters through the classpecting lenses is i think a valuable thing to do.
in a sense sure, but also looking for when there aren't acting according to their class is just as good.

>and more over, John being so passive because he is a POV character is not just a classpect thing, but just a writing thing in general.
so?

>regardless its pretty clear the difference between act 5 johns highs of doing cool shit at the behest of other people to help someone elses plan, and someone like jade who is the one orchestrating a lot of the plan herself, even more than rose. reactive vs proactive

diferentiate to me vriska following the black queen's plans or dave just following terezi's plans. you can see my point. it doesn't matter
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>>156050251
Only the ones who post anon, only the ones who post

t. lurker
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>>156050251
always has been
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>>156050215
not a fan of the ship nor how it's written, but I don't shipshame. I will lovingly poke fun at you though
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davekat isn't even that bad when viewed in isolation because same-class ships are interesting pairings by their design, but unfortunately that one particular well has been poisoned a long time ago
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>>156050274
>I will lovingly poke fun at you though
how so?
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>>156050242
rate the grub /piggy or maybe a moose even ,':0
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>>156050259
at least in vriskas case she is pretty easy to goad into doing what you want by just saying "do it you wont". but thats more of a light trait, given how rose does the same thing. as for dave, hes pretty keen to get out of that situation as much as he can, he likes terezi but hes not the biggest fan of working for her.

>in a sense sure, but also looking for when there aren't acting according to their class is just as good.
i agree! especially in cases such as Jade, and her whole role as basically a proto seer for the team, until Rose takes that role, and jade goes back to being a standard plot devices/damsel, before transitioning again into competent pseudo leader, before again being shafted for the rest of the comic. Karkat and daves somewhat submissive nature in general despite being knights, the designated hero class, ect ect. how much of that is intentional or how much is a writing quirk, or even a flaw.

im not really arguing classpecting is a perfect system. but i also dont think its totally worthless. it exists and has a purpose, a descriptive element for characters that informs of you of their role within the greater tapestry of the story. And especially in the context of muses and lords, who were made well into where classpecting is a relevant part of the story, it matters especially.
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>>156050053
Don’t worry. My flaming hatred for ipgd will compensate, and it fuels me to purge gay people from video games with the power of AI and ultra manly ideas
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>>156050445
>My flaming hatred for ipgd
Now THAT is a shocking romantic development
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>>156050411
>at least in vriskas case she is pretty easy to goad into doing what you want by just saying "do it you wont". but thats more of a light trait, given how rose does the same thing. as for dave, hes pretty keen to get out of that situation as much as he can, he likes terezi but hes not the biggest fan of working for her.

you are not making sense, if thats all you got, just do what I said and stop trying analyze homestuck

>exists and has a purpose
a purpose that can be quickly ignored if hussie wants to
>a descriptive element for characters that informs of you of their role within the greater tapestry
but thats the thing it really doesn't, charcters will according to it and people will jerk themselves about it when hussie wants to and the opposit may also happen it doesn't matter
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>>156050500
looks good man <3
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>>156050500
what's the reference?
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>>156050519
Chainsaw man
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When did jake become based
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>>156050500
amazing
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>>156050535
ah! I knew it looked familiar. very nice job
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>>156050545
Those words don't go together in a sentence
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>>156050545
About one hundred pages earlier when him and karkat were tormenting delfi at the terminal with their shitposting so hard pic related happened just to stop them
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>>156050578
And yet here we are
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>>156050595
what is the mountain's symbol in the screen
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>>156050578
Counterpoint: Jake's taste in women IS based
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>>156050512
Well i feel like i need an example of the exact opposite of a classpect going on to really argue it.

like a failure of the classpecting system is a failure of hussies writing as well. im not certain that makes it worthless. Because at that posing everything in homestuck is worthless, and if not that level of hyperbole, a significant portion of it is not worth trying to analyze in any detail because of how much hussie fucks up.
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is the davedirk nation just going to skim over dave's black shirt? okay..
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>>156050669
what is the matter of the black shirt?
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>>156050500
So whos Makima here?
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>>156050669
what does dirkdave have to do with this
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>>156050637
you yourself gave exemples though, why would you want more? like you have terezi and rose be some of the most active in the session first and foremost, you have kanaya acting super active sometimes monsterstuck, killing gamzee, making karkat sleep and karkat and dave acting super passive as you pointed out.

>im not certain that makes it worthless
If characters wont follow it or hussie can pick chose when they are following it and when they arent.
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>>156050769
anything that happens with dave(and dirk) can be used in dirkdave scenarios you just arent creative enough
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i'm retarded
you can't fight it
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oh yeah i forgot to post this wb doodle of dirg

(i know this seems like a lot of art just for one dirksona ill have to make art of different ones)
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>>156050823
i want to go back to the backshots dialogue
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>>156050729
In terms of who the unhealthy choice of relationship would be that he clings to? Dani. In the terms of who's capable of grooming him? Kelley.
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>>156050881
theres still some crumbs in the way dave mentions dirk. its never over you just have to squint your eyes and see glory
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>>156050788
Terezi and and Rose arent really active? like what do they really do? Rose spends her time doing johns session, waiting for boys to shape their shit up, and then when she gets in the game, she spends all of her time tearing the game apart for information. the fact of the matter is she is doing the opposite of doing quests, or doing *anything* really..

terezi is the same, tho we know less of her session, but we do know that the extent of her manipulation of john and dave is just prodding them mentally with more even more precision than Rose. Someone more active would basically just *force* someone to do what they want.

Kanaya killing eridan. I cant defend that one. Thats classic hussie shit. Eridan killing gamzee would have been the perfect thematic shit right there. but no.

dave and karkats passiveness...this is a tough one, but i think that pre act 6, karkat is pretty passive. He plays a pretty big role in making cascade happen, and facilitates the human troll link in the first place out of sheer hate. he is also the most active in trying to help his fellow team mates, in the form of being bossy and shouty. Most of his teammates confirm that he was, in fact the leader, he just wasn't strong. post act 6..yeaaah thats hussie character assasination. karkat really gets nothing.

Dave is kind of made to be subservient out of circumstance, but when he is given leg room he shows he can be active, but not to karkats extent ironically. its downhill from there.
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>>156050879
she is the best one hahaha.
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>>156050881
uhum
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>>156048955
jades goal has always been to lay a path for the john. jade will crack candy johns egg by re-writing him be the bioligically female as she has always desired to be. the heiress of zillyhoo will slay lord english and finally after all is settled they will get married and have many puppy-children together
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>>156050910
i meant to say karkat is *active* not passive.
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>>156050879
you guys... let me draw you something in return what do you want!!
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>>156050983
draw her >>156050867
>67
hehe
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>>156050895
Incest is... Bad? No... It cant be...
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>>156050993
ok i will she's very cute
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>>156050983
i want you to contribute! draw a male dirksona with another male dirksona
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>>156051035
:}
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>>156050978
>Jade reads homestuck and rewrites John into always having been a biological female
>Later, June transitions into John
>Fandom implodes so hard Homestuck is instantly erased from everyones memory
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>>156051069
this would make me unironically forgive hussie
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>>156051069
KINO
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>>156051069
i wouldnt even care, that would be funny as shit
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>>156051069
old troll-hussie would do this
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can I draw my dirksona hanging with the other dirksonas?
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>>156051130
>dont laugh
>dont laugh
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>>156051130
KEEEEEEK! ANON SERIOUSLY BELIEVES THIS
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>>156051121
not only that, but it would be perfect, it would give Jade the shot at having the heterosexual family she wants, and having children too!
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something funny needs to happen. now.
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>>156051039
ok do you have a dirksona or am i free to pick any two
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>>156051144
please do, i would love that
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>>156051197
im the one who created the idea and made the sprites. i havent made a dirksona though. you can but any two you'd like
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>>156051069
its not a retcon. see >>156048769
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>>156051218
make one!!!!
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communism won.
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>>156051299
We all know what happens next
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>>156050788
Them being active was them inverting
If they turned left instead of right you guessed it. Inversion
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>>156051299
caralho fiquei sabendo por aqui.
alias lula n Ă© commie nem aqui nem na china. nem a china Ă©. mas Ă© melhor que a bosta do bozo ganhando de longe. enfim minha bolsa da facul ta segura.
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>>156051204
yay!
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i adore my chud troll daughter
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>>156051461
cool
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>>156051560
pretty dirk
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Can I have some requests for my girls?
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>>156050910
What the fuck is rose trying to break the game then?? or making the walkthrough? or going grimdark to try and beat jack? she is always focused on beating the game or trying to outwit it in some way.

Ignroing her killing vriska lmao, one of the most active things to ever happen in homestuck.

Now thats the thing is karkat passive because he is just telling the kids what to do or is he active because he is the first to talk to them and basically the lead the their trolling atempts.
lets be real a lot what dave does is very passive, get wrangled by bro, by terezi, by rose like come on.
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>>156051560
that's one spiffy looking guy. I wonder if he beats kids
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>>156051758
The One with The Lips... Kissing... On the butt
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>KARKAT: YEAH, WELL I REMEMBER SOMEONE BEING TOLD HE HAD TO KILL LORD ENGLISH TOO AND THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN!
He doesn't know shit about the REAL Knight of Time.
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>>156051831
beats it to kids*
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>>156051979
To smuppets*
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>>156051826
going grimdark and fighting jack is her losing her mind, doing the dumb emotional thing and dying for it, her skintone turns grey, obviously grimdark as a state is unnatural and purposefully different. Seers are *supposed* to be calculating and careful. Rose puts on a big show about acting that way, even if she falls short at times. She makes the walkthrough during her downtime and as soon as she is unable to keep it up as freely she says "your on your own pal" and then seals it in a multiverse server or whatever. she breaks the game to find out how to get out of a doomed situation, but jade is the one who actually makes it happen. Focusing on a task is not activity, thats just having a goal. The fact that rose is looking for knowledge and not just trying to brute force it, or bend it to his will (caliborn) is proof enough of her more passive approach.

As for Terezi, the fact that she let her get to where she was, when she knew she was a problem that had to be dealt with. she always knew she would have to do this, but she tried to just ignore the problem. Her entire style of killing people is passive. She tries to absolve herself of responsibility by doing the coin-flip, but simultaneously rigs it so she always gets what she wants. This general flighty-ness is also a seer special, but is more representative of her inability to approach problems head on. Rose has a similar problem, she thinks she can out trick omnipotent beings and skaia itself, and more importantly wants to live the fantasy of *using* her friends as her tools and not relying upon them. This fantasy fails spectacularly.
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>>156051758
uhh one of them in lingerie?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mFzet0VTjk
this is like the best version of the beat down and sunslammer motif i have ever heard ever omg (1m34s)
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>>156051758
One of them and a horse
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no please. not the horse.
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>>156051758
Rouge of time spreading her ass with an annoyed look on her face. (Bonus points if she does it by ripping her god tier pants)
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>>156052010
first things first just because a character is doing something retarded doesn't mean it isnt an active move, you are adding shit that doesn't need to be there.

>>Focusing on a task is not activity, thats just having a goal.
answer to me what is being actve then??? trying to find a way to beat the session is an extremely active move even if other people help.

>The fact that rose is looking for knowledge and not just trying to brute force it
she was also definitely brute forcing it though thats entirely the point.

>Her entire style of killing people is passive
imagine genually beliving this, she was the one to beat vriska at her own game, there is nothing passive about this. like vriska could have died then and there and terezi knew that, in fact she wanted to be the one to solve the stuff with vriska but aradia want and fucked it up.
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>>156051758
the one on the right twerking
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aradia poster do you still NEED aradia every minute of the day?
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>>156052091
Yes the horse, always the horse. Horse forever.
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>>156052212
horse is boring i would DRAW a wolverine fucking tho.
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>>156052270
GAY and WRONG. Equine penis is S tier and will continue to be S tier until god releases a better animal
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>>156052183
every nanosecond of every minute
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>>156052340
sorry but like 4 heads doesnt make the dick better to suck or take. its exotic but honestly its a ok cock. now a turtle dick... that is the surprise gem.
but enough abt animal dick. not the right place...
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>>156052376
holy shit i read equine as it was echidna. my bad. im retarded i cant reaad.
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>>156052340
https://e621.net/posts?tags=fossa_penis+
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>>156052407
new fav just dropped. thanks nepeta.
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>>156052164
Activity in the context of homestuck is usually defined as more self centered/selfish playstyles, in which you act as an independent entity or leader. Thats why all of the combat classes are active, prince, knight, and thief. They may not be leaders and they might take orders, but they are defined by enriching oneself and winning through that means. it is also defined by forging a path ahead for oneself and others that may or may not follow.

Passivity conversely is defined by more selfless play styles. Giving other people tools to see through your desire/goal, or by being subservient almost entirely to outside forces. Passive classes are more flexible and are able to adapt to the situation presented to them. While not often leaders they are often vital for sheer ability to flip violently from one state to another. The power of a passive class is usually one awakened by outside forces. It is why bards are a destroyer class, but not a dedicated combat class, as their nature makes them unreliable.

Constant power vs Dynamic power (active vs passive) is overall what im trying to illustrate.

There is a pretty consistent theme of Passive classed characters dealing with changes in their life and in themselves and not being able to handle it, and active classes trying their absolute best *to* change, but finding themselves unable.

of course there is plenty of nuance here. But im presenting what i think these ideas are because you asked.
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>>156052462
real john ruins a wedding page
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>>156052365
imagine sleeping alongside aradia after bruising rough sex
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>>156052537
*cervix bruising sex

i believe that is what she would say anyway. not that i dont agree with that. i wouldnt say no to a round or 2
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if i catch john like this its over for him
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>>156052634
i want my john to be the one from April 13th 2009 and not a day older
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>>156052461
sure, it still serves my point rose is selfish and and so is terezi. so at that point point we get to the same place, people dont need to act according to their class, there is no point to it
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>>156052634
not heroic
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>>156052634
literally begging to be groomed. if anything we're the victim here for falling into his trap
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>>156052737
this is adult john. and that is what makes it slutty
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>>156051124
no one replied but this is very cute

today in the morning i was daydreaming about these two scissoring. im not really normal
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>>156052105
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>>156052785
idk if your dirk dave anon or someone else, doesn't matter. i say it with some embarrassment that i also imagined this as well. it doesn't help that dirkdave anon drew them naked and kissing already, so...its their fault for planting these thoughts in my head!!!!

they are my goat...
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>>156052791
youre really really fast
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maaaaa
the fujos are flirting again
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>>156052687
sure but that was never the point.

classes dont describe the totality of actions a person can take, and aspects dont describe the totality of someones personality. They are descriptors, and very general ones, they are just a mechanic of the story and have some importance. Surface level even. Vriska is a person who steals cheats and lies for attention and power, thief of light. John egbert is the easy going boy who will always help out a friend, heir of breath. Dave strider is a passionate and determined soul who wants to fight and work to achieve his goals, knight of time. (Note how dave's introduction as the cool kid who doesn't care about anything is not his base personality at all, and thus not representative of his classpect or "base self" so to speak)


now i agree, there are some things about some characters that kind of has friction with the classpecting system. But things like rose being selfish is more a symptom of her being not well rounded at all, a flaw basically everyone in homestuck has. and more importantly, and the reason i dont think its a writing flaw, is because she is punished and at least somewhat forced to change, she changes for the worse, but she changes none the less. its basically the fail state of her classpect.
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>>156052834
when you fujo so hard you accidentally lesbian...
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>>156052833
art school does that to you
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>>156052834
sorry kiddo :p
>>156052848
my crotcheted lil cal acted like a magical charm to attract homestuck fujos
>>156052791
absoutely GOATED. thanks a billion anons
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>>156052799
oh no im not them just a bystander who made some drawings about you them
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>>156052462
my faoooockin Heir
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>>156052839
>They are descriptors, and very general ones, they are just a mechanic of the story and have some importance

if they arent actually describing something real then there isnt really a point analysing through them, charcters will, at the end of the day, act in whatever way hussie deems fit at the moment.
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Ended up watching Cascade today as part of my reread. Didn't even realize it was the 15th anniversary.
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why does MY FOOOOOOARKING HEIR use anal toys when he says hes straight? does roxy not satisfy him?
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>>156052933
my fooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaarkin Heir
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>>156052605
*wipes tear* you know me so well anon ;w;
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>>156052940
my fooooooooooooooooooooooooooooarking heir
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>>156052900
unfortunately on that we are ultimately in agreement on. Hussie as a writer, and his whims to do as he pleases kind of invalidate a whole lot of homestuck. But i find this sort of reasoning flawed. Because it kind of means you shouldn't analyze like 70% of the comic too closely. things like the murderstuck plotlines, what those themes mean for their characters. Vriskas death.

heck even daves struggle. these are all things ultimately undercut by hussies shitty writing, but their still interesting to discuss.
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>>156052933
>does roxy not satisfy him?
Shes the wrong lalonde for the job, only Rose can subdue him properly
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>>156052945
you know it sis <3

i knew we would be friends, like when you told me you were hardcore jilling to that stupid ass moan profile bullshit i was writing eons ago. (man those sucked lmao)
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>>156052929
Wow! 15th anniversary of Jade Harley's forced sex change!
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>>156052981
rose doesnt know how to suck benis. roxy knows how to with ability
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>>156052929
Yep, 15 years ago was the last time I thought about Homestuck until the pilot
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>>156052995
no they didnt! those were cringekino and good. dont be afraid to be cringe
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>>156052998
This is not about sucking benis, this is about making him submit, its about taming the beast. Terezi did it, Rose could do it. Roxy is too much of a people pleaser for it.
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>>156052966
no? just find better way to analyze homestuck through, find a better lens, it isnt glued to your head.
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>>156053034
well, on that we can agree. classpecting is a limited view into homestuck further limited by hussies writing. i guess we just disagree on discounting it entirely or not.
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>>156053017
T0T thank you
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>>156053050
agree to disagree then
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>>156052799
goodnight! i will be dreaming about them scissoring again
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>>156053080
*shakes hand*

good talk lol. im glad this didn't turn into name calling or anything. you were quite respectful
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>>156052634
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>>156053119
He's done it
He's transformed into Waste of Breath
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how many times is jack called a demon?
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>>156053513
also omnipotent lmao, john humiliating him on that dreambubble was such an aura loss
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>>156053513
The trolls call him that because he killed their dreamselves
Then he gets sidelined for LE in the silliest way possible
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>>156053573
yeah but why demon?
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>>156053605
he's a real demon
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I appreciate the BC team trying to give Davekat some personality beyond "UwU look at the gay babies they're in wuv isn't that so wholesome?" by explicitly making them perverted faggots instead of perfect inoffensive tumblr shy gays that was the most you were allowed to give a gay couple back when HS^2 first came out.
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>>156048300
>>156048451
etc.
>>156048456
Are all these photos of the same chick? Or I am just very stupid. Or there is more than one different person in those photos.
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>>156050500
who powa?
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>>156053862
"perverted faggots" has been the new "inoffensive tumblr shy gays" since like 2018 where have you been. this isn't groundbreaking
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dirk is gay. dave is a faggot (bad). know the difference.
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i think it would be really funny if dave is somehow karkat's only reference for human penis and he's actually quite small
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>>156054016
THEORY: JADE HAS A SMALL COCK
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>>156051560
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZXTh2Qol6c
>what ult dirk hears when jake manifests bg dirk wearing the cap on his shirt using hope power
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>>156053862
This is just standard fujo shit bro
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>>156054016
They weren't exactly hanging dong in movies prior to 2009, so Karkat would have no idea
Full frontal nudity is more a modern HBO thing
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>>156053950
Yeah but perverted faggots are much more interesting to me because their conversations can now be more than "Tch, I love you, baka..."
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>>156054110
yeah going back and forth about how badly they want to fuck is definitely much more interesting
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>>156054090
i dont think you understand how boring davekat has been before this update
seeing standard fujo shit after years is like im finally eating a donut after only eating porridge for a decade
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Is he right?
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I want buff Roxy to hold me down with his hand pressing on my neck as he rides my dick.
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>>156054193
Yeah. He kinda just does nothing. He spent his entire time on Earth C bedrotting, the fact that he's even on the ship honestly feels like he just wants to stick with Karkat who wants to follow Kanaya who wants to save Rose. He's literally only here because people want more davekat stuff. I really wish we saw less of him in general, would've loved a Roxy Jade convo in this update.
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If the implication that it is Jade who gave John all the commands in the OG webcomic, and not just some outside observer, I am going to genuinely get a little upset. Complete and total removal of MSPA reader as a concept and the initial integral tie the webcomic had with its audience.
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I like the album art for Paradise.
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>>156053862
>canon fat cock
real?
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He's trying to act tough like he doesn't say gee wilikers.
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>>156054445
>flanderized blank circle glasses dog jade
>jaderose
>nig dave
yuck
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>>156054445
But did anyone touch John's pp?
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>>156053513
It should be relegated only to cool stuff like Cascade when pure manliness was involved in the story. At this point it’s comparing him to Hazbin and indie pilot characters more than anything else
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>we are one (1) page away from the birth of june
Final thoughts?
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>>156054643
Jade should use her artistic skills to add evidence of rape to the panels like frowning faces and discarded condoms

Let the fanbase discover The Raped amongst them
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john's dreamself desapearing.... i think thats like plot hole right, its just never explained
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>>156054643
I'm excited to see what they do with it. I've liked BC so far so they have my faith to make this work in a manner that won't be total dogshit like Hussie or the previous team would.
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>>156054643
Classpect change
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>>156048725
The dreambubble horseshit is now in full swing
Meenah gloating that she killed everyone so they could live forever in ultra-hell is one of her all time highlights
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>>156054445
>jade smoking
>nigdave
???
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>>156055080
What do you commonly smoke after anon?
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>>156054643
Garbage. Forever and always. A never-ending nightmare for true enjoyers of anything related to John. Hope it's as disappointing, rushed and nonsensical as it was always going to be.
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>>156054714
This feels like a suicide note.
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>>156055122
jade never stroked me as a smoker, even after sex
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>>156054643
If they attempt to seriously force John to become a girl because of a joke submission too many years ago that isn't laced in an absurd amount of irony then I see myself dropping the series for good even though I'm enjoying Deltritus. The thought of it is way too creepy, disgusting, and embarrassing. The fact that the community is so approving of it makes no sense to me at all either, you guys get all touchy touchy with these characters like with Dave's abuse and other stuff, yet we're ready to pop champagne to the inevitable and permanent brainwashing of John and his gender identity (with a lot of fanart also involving body mutilation via breast implants) spawned from a literal joke because we wanna see him in thigh highs and be more relatable or whatever.

Like above all else, as I've already said before, it's just too creepy to entertain, and there's no magic the BC team can pull off to make it bearable.
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>>156054643
I'm excited to finally see her desu.
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>>156055202
>jade never stroked me
DON'T REMIND MEEEEE!!!!!!
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>>156055211
It's been a long time since I first suggested this is just an elaborate form of suicide (and indeed someone up above has already pointed this sounds like a note written just before kicking the bucket)
He must have thought for a long time about how he was finally going to die as an immortal and finally hit on the one thing that gods have figured out for millennia: if you can't die, become someone else
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>>156054643
i hope it makes more people write mtftm detrans kink fics
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White pubic hair looks terrible
Sorry Jade but you're getting normal boring black pubic hair.
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Is it almost time for Junekat supremacy?
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John and Vriska will merge to become August, the hermaphroditic half human half troll savior of HSBC
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>>156055297
The fact that suicide is even in play here when in discussion about a forced transitioning does not make any of this better at fucking all? This just makes it even creepier, was that your intention?
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>>156055211
you know how every community/fandom has the "crazy corner" of people? well the crazy corner of the lgbt is so hair-trigger tempered they sort of bullied the entire internet into not being able to criticize anything for fear of being trans-phobic. I hate it because it shuts down any actual discussion and sort of implies any lgbt writing is inherently immaculate and above critique
>inb4 "you're just anti-lgbt"
I'm also lgbt
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>>156055211
Joke? These people actually believe this shit, anon. They actually believe this is a fitting direction for the character, or just have ulterior motives for liking the idea and pretend there's some deeper thing justifying it. It already happened to Roxy. It already happened to Vriska, to a lesser extent. It's happening to Eridan, somehow. It's been happening to John. Hell, I saw someone using she/her for Jake fucking English the other day. I've long given up trying to understand where these conclusions come from, along with my hopes for the future of any original Homestuck character. There's no stopping the gay singularity.
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>>156055351
>dykekat wearing her carabiner on the right
if you laugh you doom the session
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>>156055423
Yes, that's what I'm getting at
If they go through with it then it will be John's actual death as a character, and not a transformation into something else like Roxy
I don't think they even thought that hard about what this is going to mean both to their audience and the greater story
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>>156055477 (me)
left* retard award
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>>156055211
For someone who cares for John's character so much I never see any posts about him here.
Almost like you don't care about John or his character at all and just want to whine in the thread about trannies.
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Jade is the worst fucking character in the entire series and it's not even close
Can't believe I used to like her
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>>156055211
part of what makes this topic so unbearable is that even if you see past how weird the situation really is, you're just gonna be labelled as one of the hundreds of transphobes that throw around terms like tranny and whatnot, so it'll only just reinforce the fans in their support for june. like there's really nothing to be said about any of this to be honest.
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>>156055490
The audience they desire has already accepted June Egbert. None of these people call him John anymore, even in HS1. It's bizarre, especially for something that hasn't even begun to happen yet. I suppose it's a side effect of treating fictional characters like people, the whole dead identity thing and all. John has been dead to them for a very long time.
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Even if John becomes June he'll still be the least character-assassinated out of all the beta kids
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Everything I see from Homestuck 2 is the most miserable fucking nonsense.
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>>156055565
To be fair John stopped being important as soon as the curtains closed on the original comic
So what we're getting worked up about is how this is going to retroactively apply to the original comic just like Jade's new anatomy

>>156055616
I see what you did there
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>>156055211
i for one do not give a shit about john or june egbert so i find all of this to be really funny. the only question i have is what's with the FUCKING hold up????????? It's been 6 fucking years no? where's my entertainment already you fucking hacks???
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i wish john's character could have been better, like while he can be really boring, he can also be fan and whimsical, him finding his dad's cards are some of the best moments of early homestuck to me, but his arc just wasn't good and it left me somewhat jaded, like i understand it was about dealing with his deads death, but like he didn't really change in any fundamental way and while him discovering how shitty vriska is, it just goes nowhere, it just very unfulfiling.
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>>156055627
Psychosocial nightmare is the most fruitful source of real life inspiration for Homestuck content creators for 6 or so years
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btw can the next thread QOTT be about hiveswap x homestuck ships, i think it could be fun.
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NUCLEAR HOT TAKE INCOMING
It should've been Dave instead of John
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>>156055211
It's the very concept of people currently cheering on Jade and al to make John into June without his consent that boggles my fucking mind to be honest. Can I call this narrative rape? Is that a thing?
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>>156055627
It's melodramatic bullshit written by Hussie's fifth choice. Most everything you probably like about Homestuck isn't present, the current intended audience is teenage fujos too afraid to be outright racist because then they'd have something in common with their parents.

Point is it's not ever going to be good.
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>>156055677
it should've been jade. she's a girl who has a DOG DICK. the writing is right there. she could've had a gender dysphoria arc instead of running around cucking her best friends
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>>156055677
it should have been sollux not for any plot, character, or representation purposes but for the purpose of making my panties wet
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>>156055711
I'm just
I don't understand how anyone can like this
It's not written very well
The subject material is mind numbingly boring
Is the audience just people who are too stubborn to let go?
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>>156055677
>child abuse victim grows up to be a tranny
Great optics, team
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>>156055703
oh my god it's too funny
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>>156055760
No instead he just grew up to be an insufferable faggot.
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>>156055753
It's mormon teenagers and futa fetishists mostly.
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>>156055703
>whaaaat??? joooohn i cant believe youd say that!!! id NEVER forcibly turn you into a girl john wo i cant believe youd think something like that!!!! grrrr im so mad at you john i mean what the hell!!!!!!!! id never ever ever ever do that to you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>156055703
>without his consent
that's the creepiest shit ever
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>>156055813
God the contrast between this and Homestuck 2 is jarring.
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>>156055813
i sure hope jade keeps her promise!!!!!!!!!! :D
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Really looking forward to reading HSBC on the equinox
It'll be a dark day
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the update before june is crazy.

i dont think im ready lol.

i dont think any of us are. (unless this turns out to be a nothing burger in which case i think im going to piss myself laughing but)
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>>156055753
It's people who will write essays about how secretly brilliant all this garbage is. I saw someone defending the shitty davekat parts with this giant essay about how it's boring on purpose because it wants to be a commentary about how happiness is boring or something.
Homestuck 2 fans are basically maga 4D chess retards but for an autistic clown guy.
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NEW THREAD
>>156055875
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>>156055202
you havent had passionate alcohol feuled lesbian sex, its an absolutely crushing peak and a cigarette is absolutely needed after, even if you dont smoke it would be needed. it rewires ur brain to crave that person. its alot harder to fuck someone like this and not fall in love with and or be repulsed by them than youd think. it wasnt even my idea in my case but it still really tears me up emotionally. it literally just bad suggestion by someone i found admirable.
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>>156054193
Genuine trvke and the writers know it
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>>156054193
John hasn't been in the comic for god knows how long and he's STILL mogging Dave, ho-lee.



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