>>11275156
Sure. They are great fun. Last time I was tied spread eagled to a bed, with nipple clamps attached via string to my big toes. Cock and balls wired up and a controller in my hand. The song Roxanne was played and I was told to press the button each time the word "Roxanne" always sang. If I didn't it would be taken off of me, turned up and left running continuously.

Not exactly prostate stimulation but it was very good fun. I've also found higher power shocks anally really help me relax to take larger toys. That was another good day. And as always, avoid electrical current on the chest or above the neck.

Post five retard

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>>11275156
Then tens unit is pretty shit for prostate stim.
You'll need some type of anal electrode. They tend to be larger and require more power then what a TENS unit can provide. You best bet as a beginner would be the DG Labs cyote along with their anal electrode
https://dungeon-lab.com/products.php
Incorperating anal electrode and uerthral sounds are amazing as you complete zap yoour prostate from all angles but you need to know what your doing with sounding and work your way up

>>11275156
>Not plugging his dick directly into her twintails

>>11276968
I'm interested in this actually, how good can it feel

>>11275156
more chastity

>>11277766
Incredibly

>>11275156
>Anyone have any experience using a TENS unit?
I have an ET312B. Been using it for over 10 years now. Back then it was $400 but I hear they sell for $700 now? TENS units feel like shit in comparison - very harsh feeling.

>>11276968
>>11277766
I've put an electrical sound (as long as 14") down my cock quite a few times. Felt great. Keep everything sterilized or you're gonna have a bad time.

Please don't do E-stim sounding, kids.
E-stim can cause third-degree burns.
The urethra is very delicate and easily damaged.
Damaged skin burns more easily.
Please don't shock the inside of your cock, bros.

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>>11285446
This is a risk if you
-use chinesium equipment (not recommended for anything urethral)
-use stim equipment not intended for urethral stimulation
-use the wrong kind of lube, not enough lube or no lube

To avoid injury
-only use urethral toys and stimulators from reputable sellers (unironically check /r/sounding for good, safe gear to use)
-sterilize your stuff religiously. medical alcohol is your friend
-only use e-stim units that are meant for urethral stimulation
-don't use homemade equipment. you're not smart or diligent enough to get it right, that's the horny talking
-use sterile WATER-BASED lube, preferably something that's either recommended for urethral play specifically or at least surgilube. this is because lube needs to be sufficiently electrically conductive to avoid creating a patchy cable effect, where the lube is like an insulator, and the electrical current passes through small hotspots where the stim touches the urethral lining directly with no lube in between
-use enough lube. get some disposable syringes to use as lube applicators & get that lube in deep

Last but not least, go slow. That includes both going in and going out. Start at low power, ease it up as desired. Don't pull out when the unit is still powered on, that leaves a very small contact point (hot spot) as the surface area of the contact shrinks. And don't try to replicate things you see on /d/, that's just asking for an ER visit.

>>11285446
Coward bitchass

>>11285459
>do all of this
>still tear the interior of the urethra because it's fragile as shit
>oops now you have a third degree burn in your dick
There are so many other ways to cum from e-stim that are absolutely fucking amazing. Glans-only e-stim in particular is so goddamn intense holy fuck.
Please don't shock the inside of your cock, bros.

The best way to e-stim a cock is using a small plastic/resin chastity cage with bars, and running conductive rubber loops through the bars in various places.
The cage, as long as it is small enough, will hold the electrodes firmly in place at all times even with (partial) hardening and softening of the cock - this is a problem with other methods of cock e-stim. Holding the electrodes firmly in place prevents burns.
Best setup I've found is one electrode on each side of the glans and one electrode on the middle of the glans - run current between the two electrodes on the side of the glans for panic-inducingly intense edging. The electrode on the middle of the glans runs current to either a testicle electrode or an anal electrode. Glans only stim = edging. Glans stim + glans to nuts/anal stim at the same time = cummies.
Nuts to anal stim produces a uniquely horrifying sensation that masochists will love.

What estim makes analgasms the best

>>11275156

The high IQ move is TENS therapy to stimulate nerve growth to increase sensitivity rather than direct stimulation.

>>11285721
That's gay tho

>>11275156
>Thinking about getting one for prostate stimulation.
ehhh what?

>>11289488
Electrodes in the anal

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funny how i just find this thread while looking in the archives for similiar info right when it's on page 10.

apparently there's something called "ghost fucking" where you have one electrode at the anus and one at the prostate using a certain estim plug and box that makes it feel like your being fucked in the ass. it sounds amazing though i've only read about it in the archives, i've yet to buy any proper equipment because am too poor ;_;

>>11293736
The most commonly recommended plug for this is called The Moaner, FYI.

>>11275156
I have a chastity cage that includes e-stim pads. It shocks the shaft and hurts like hell. It's fun when I give my wife the controller, not so much when I do it to myself. But when she does shock me, I cum buckets afterwards and feel super relaxed. Definitely recommend.

Definitely work your way up to higher voltages. You can crank it up for a sudden surprise in power, but don't do it right out the gate.

>>11293748
>hurts like hell
It really shouldn't, unless you're intentionally using a setting that produces pain instead of pleasure, like intentionally setting the e-stim box to produce strong, sudden, very short bursts of current.
What e-stim box are you using? Just the cheap, battery-powered Chinese thing the cage may have come with?
For something cheap, even a TENS 7000 can produce really pleasurable, non-painful sensations - as can the DG LAB Coyote, which is $84 - the latter can use audio as an input through the Xtoys app, which allows you to automate an infinite variety of user-created stim patterns.

>>11293770
It's a cheap chinese "massage" unit. I actually use it for its intended purpose pretty regularly. Feels great on stiff muscles.

And I might have been exaggerating a little bit. It's not bad hurt. You feel the sensations, and when you crank it up, it does catch you off guard.

>>11293774
Can it at least produce a steady stream of current? As in, not short bursts of current but a steady stream that feels good? Because that's the bare minimum an e-stim box needs to be able to do in order to reliably produce great hands-free orgasms.

>>11293796
It runs on 3 AAA batteries, and it's usually in bursts of time. I don't think it's ever put out a constant stream of current, now that I think about it...

>>11293804
Yeah, even a TENS 7000 would be a massive upgrade for you then, let alone a Coyote. Hahaha you have no fucking idea.
You're about to discover the most absurdly intense orgasm possible, kek. Shit is going to blow your goddamn mind.

>>11293736
>>11293745

Where do I buy everything needed to try this

>>11294548
Bump

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what's the fuss with the dg labs stuff? how are they different from regular TENS?

>>11296134
The primary practical difference is the Coyote can use audio as an input via the Xtoys app. This allows you to use something like Audacity to write your own stim patterns for it. This lets you do things like
>automate X minutes of edging followed by stim that produces a hands-free orgasm
>automate gradually increasing intensity of stimulation to counteract your nerves getting used to the stimulation
>create automated patterns that aren't possible with a simple TENS unit, like patterns that deliver short, painful shocks at random intervals, sometimes dozens of seconds apart - good for punishment/torture and testicular stimulation
It's also significantly more powerful than a TENS unit, which is particularly important for driving anal electrodes with a lot of surface area.
The Xtoys app also allows you to do things like have games interact with the Coyote. There's one game in particular called Virtual Succubus which allows you to assign one channel of the Coyote to reward and one to punishment - so you can assign the reward one to a penile stimulation channel and the punishment one to a testicular stimulation channel.
The Coyote is super fun!

>>11296137
Oh, also, I just looked this up, apparently Xtoys can be controlled by SillyTavern. If you know what SillyTavern is, then you know that this is kind of insanely cool.

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>>11296150
>AI goes unhinged
>burns your penis

>>11296155
kek
As far as I understand, the plugin just monitors the output for trigger text that triggers specific, pre-defined patterns, so the AI shouldn't be able to control the maximum intensity slider or the frequency of stimulation. So, as long as you have the max intensity set to a safe level, the frequency set to a safe frequency, and your electrodes are properly placed and held in place, it shouldn't be able to burn you.

>>11275156
My use case is somewhat different. For prostate stimulation I prefer the the wife get her fingers in there. We do own multiple TENS machines, and like them. I use TENS most often for edging while writing erotica. They also get used fairly regularly as extra stimulation during sex. Can't beat an anal electrode during intercourse. Wife likes to run the controller in that scenario.

Someone mentioned the "7000" device and that is a good cheap option to try out electrical play. It's been rebranded but is the same device:
www.tenspros.com/intensity-7-digital-tens-unit-di0007.html

I have found that the best machines have EMS programs, or are dedicated EMS machines. EMS being "Electrical Muscle Stimulation" My favorite EMS machine is actually one of the most basic:
https://www.tenspros.com/Nu-Stim-Dual-Channel-Muscle-Stimulator-with-Safety-Amplitude-Cap-_p_190.html This is showing as discontinued, but might be available elsewhere. EMS is a very different feel to TENS which is kind of the point, I suppose. It is more intense but in a good way. It makes sense as many TENS frequencies numb sensation while the EMS stuff amps up sensation.

For electrodes I like the Electrastim silicone items: https://stockroom.com/collections/electrastim
The anal electrodes are really good, and are good quality. The rubber cock loops are pretty good too.

My two cents. I'll try and answer questions if anyone has any.

>>11296782
This one is a good basic EMS unit (that I own):https://www.tenspros.com/ems-dual-channel-stimulator-de5030.html

Out of stock atm.

>>11296150
What is it

Okay someone tell me what anal probe and what stim unit to buy for use with xtoys

>>11297370
just buy the coyote kit with the electrodes to get started

>>11297388
Okay done, now what about the plug

>>11298139
if you picked the right kit it comes with a plug to start with

>>11298270
What if I didn't pick the right kit

if I get a coyote are there any specific adapters I should get? I saw that the moaner uses different connectors

>>11299066
for the moaner unless you want to make something custom you're probably gonna have to buy a 2.5mm mono to 3.5mm mono AND a 3.5mm mono to 4mm banana plug

>>11299066
Skill issue

>>11285721
HOW TO DO THIS? I NEED THIS

>>11299758
fake news

>>11299803
well thats sad. would have been really cool, as my prostate is pretty lazy and not sensitive at all.....

>>11299803
I don't believe you

>>11301535
this is how conspiracy mindrot happens

I have a tens but the pads it came with already wore out and i bought some conductive loops but they also kind of suck too
I don't know what I'm doing wrong

>>11301559
put a small wire inside rubber loops to increase conductivity and get some conductive gel, dry contact is not good

>>11276968
Just bought one of these. Any advice?

>>11301598
For the coyote, grab some stim audio files from Dr Orgasm or Fallen Angel and play them through xtoys. Would also recommend getting some larger diameter conductive loops than what comes with it.

>>11301551
By stimming?


You're full of shit

>>11301603
Which plug works best for that ghost fucking sensation for the coyote

>>11302260
more willing to believe the extraordinary without proof than to do basic research

>>11302353
Is not that extraordinary

>>11302353
It's pretty well documented actually

>>11303737
>>11302397
your absence of sources is telling

>>11303763
You didn't ask kek

>>11303770
still absent

>>11303773
>>11303763
Where's your sources then retard

>>11303790
Lel rekt

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I got a russian stimulator and it feels nice. Makes the muscles jump around.

Also there is an unsually low amount of art of this, less that isn't furries, and a frighteningly small amount that has good pad placement...

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I let a girl estim me once and it was the most excruciating experience of my life.
Girls are ditzy dumbasses and when you give her a penis-hurting dial she'll giggle and turn it up to eleven while you're eating her out. Then she'll think your involuntary yelp was a moan and she'll keep pressing the button over and over.

>>11306347
Haha you clearly made a mistake. You either:
>let somebody inexperienced place the electrodes, or
>started playing without testing the electrode setup for hotspots
Don't let inexperienced people place electrodes. If the girl you're with has no experience, YOU place the electrodes. If you don't have experience with it either, DON'T FUCKING PLAY WITH IT AT ALL.
Do not play without testing the electrode setup for hotspots first. Failure to do this can lead to burns, which can be minor or can be third-degree.
During testing, steady current (as opposed to short pulses) should not feel stingy. If it's stingy, there's a hotspot and the electrodes need to be re-applied to ensure adequate surface area contact.

>>11306347
Just sounds like you're a little bitch who deserved it

>>11306351
Sounds like you a pusssy ass fag

>>11306347
Cry more

quality contributions guys

>>11308822
Thx bro

Page 10 deserves a bzzzt.

Stereostim Setup for people with Penises
Needed Materials:
2x1 in. circular tens pads, available for purchase easily on amazon
1x stereo electrostim dildo of your choice


1. Locate Leads for A1, A2, B1, and B2
2. Attach a 1 in. pad to glans of penis, hook up to A1
3. Attach a 1 in. pad to base of shaft, just above the balls, hook up to B2
4. Insert dildo into butthole
5. Hook up one output of dildo to A2, and another output to B1

Result:
Two electric currents should be going from the anus, through to the prostate, and from there branching out to both the perineal nerves and the dorsal nerve. It takes some effort, but I've had many HFO's with this setup. Your mileage may vary, of course: also works with chastity cages if you're careful about slipping in the pads. It feels like hitting that sweet spot on the inside, with energy flowing from the glans to the prostate, and from the prostate to the shaft base. Wicked shit, man.

>Also please just be careful, and you better know what you're doing if you play above the belt or start inserting things into highly odd places - please don't die or get an infection for the need to get buzzy. This is dangerous shit. Fun and worth it when taken safely in moderation, but dangerous.

How do I get the ghost fuck sensation

>>11311365
Send help

>>11311365
Ghostbusters

>>11314024
What estim do I get for anal pleasure

>>11275156
Cute

What estim ghost fuck pls

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>he keeps asking to be spoonfed over and over without taking a hint
>on 4chan
>because he thinks it's r/estim

>>11317140
You ever estim with a spoon?

>>11317140
Hey man, first time poster in the thread here...

How would I go about achieving the poltergeist pounding sensation?

>>11317140
Quads and you gotta answer him

>>11317140
>>11317776

If I hit the quads now, reveal the ghost fuck secrets for the anon pls

>>11317777
Ayoooo gottem

Imagine not honoring the quads

>>11317777
bipolar electrode in the pooper

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Am I the only one who don't like to insert stuff inside my ass? How about using the perineum instead? It can feel quite good, but I don't know how it compares to the ass.

>>11318188
The sensation of current flowing between a cock electrode and an anal electrode is absolutely fucking incredible, though. Not only does it run through your prostate, but it basically feels like your entire central pelvis is being stimulated.

>>11318188
I find on the left and right between the base of shaft and balls quite nice, perineum on its own is less sensitive unless you have it going to an anal electrode

>>11318153
Thank you for being honorable, anything more to know?

>>11318191
Which estim machine should I get

>>11318609
>>11297388

>>11318804
No other options, just always order that one?

>>11319448
there are others, thats just going to be the easiest way to start

>>11319640
Gay

>>11319656
what, you wanted something cheaper? you can get a piece of shit tens box that sucks instead if you want
or maybe solder something yourself
its not uncommon for a high quality estim plug to cost more than the whole coyote kit

>>11318609
MK-312BT
>b-but
Stop being poor.

>>11320218
Got anything that isn't a shitty budget model

>>11320225
Kek

There are cheap chinese power boxes that work great. Much better than a tens. I got one for around $35. It does TENS, EMS, and one more i forget the acronym, but it is for deep muscle therapy. It has thirty different patterns (modes). Defined by numbers on the box, but personally described as such: starts with a mild solid (unbroken) sizzle. Switch modes and you get a more gritty solid sizzle. That goes on for a couple modes, getting more gritty each time. Then you get to the patterned modes. Strting with a simple timed on/off gritty sizzle. To a timed thump. To a mix of thumps and sizzles. Thirty modes is a lot. Each mode can be turned up intensity from 0-30. It comes with two channels with 4mm tens wires with snaps. 2 sets of 1x3, and 4 sets of 1x2, and .5x.5 pads.

Recommend washing and drying your dick and butthole first. Tape a 1x2 to either the top or bottom of your dick starting at the head with a little overlapping the tip. Its better to cover the head than to go down the whole shaft. Then on the other lead use a little .5x.5 pad and stick it right to your butthole. Dont push it inside. Just cover the outside. No tape necessary. Your butt cheeks will hold it in place. The current will make it feel like its opening and closing your butthole. The sizzle modes do this well. The thump modes; not so well. Thump modes feel better with an insertable. Also, you will need more power to run an insertable because you lose sensitivity when you get inside.

The name of the cheap chinese power box is AVCOO. Its totally worth the $35. Runs two channels with an insertable no prob.

>>11321626
>AVCOO
Worthless if it can't do sustained stimulation without breaks. Can it?
>pads
Conductive rubber/silicone loops are far better - will not burn.
Pads are a burn risk. I used them a lot and had a lot of fun with them but switched full-time to loops, which have never burned me, whereas no matter how careful I was, pads still occasionally burned me - never seriously, but they occasionally did small burns which would take like a week to heal.

>>11321626
>much better than a tens
>is a tens

>>11321626
>Then on the other lead use a little .5x.5 pad and stick it right to your butthole. Dont push it inside. Just cover the outside. No tape necessary. Your butt cheeks will hold it in place.
Jesus Christ this is a burn waiting to happen.
Pads should only be placed on completely flat skin and should be placed in a manner where they absolutely will not move at all. If the skin isn't flat, there will be hotspots and potential burns. If the pad is allowed to move at all, there will be hotspots and potential burns.
This pad placement is both not on flat skin and in an area will it will move. Your buttcheeks may "hold it in place" but it is absolutely not going to be still.
Nobody should listen to a single word this moron says. He wants you to get a third-degree burn (which is documented by medical literature as what can happen when TENS pads are applied incorrectly) inside your asscrack.

>>11321645
How do I set up to feel that ghost fuck but minimize burn risks

>>11321640
Yeah. There are several modes that are solid ON without pause. Ive tried seven different cheap chinese power boxes. Two of them are good. One of the better ones is the avcoo. It is made very well and is really small 1” x 4”. Thicker wires than the others.
Ive tried the traditional original TENS units. Sustained power. And lots of it, but rather boring really.

Personally, ive got my eye on a coyote, but some orher fags in here was complainibg about the cost, so i thought id share some info on a cheap one.

>>11321645
Oh cmon! Who hasnt been burned? You play with the light socket, youre gonna get got. It aint the end of the world.

The little .5 x.5 pad is great for sticking to your butthole. It just folds up. Where a 1x1 would wrinkle up - thats where you get your hot spot.

You turn up the power real gradual. If you feel it pinch (start to burn) , turn it off and reposition it or just stick your finger onnit and slide it more center. It aint gonna bite you while youre pressing it to your skin. Then let go slowly to see if you got it right.

Never pull a pad off the skin while its lit. Unless thats the kinda thing you are looking for. Or fuck, just do it once to find out and then youll know.

It wont kill you. Unless you put it on your chest or forehead or inside your dick or on opposite legs. Although opposite butt cheeks is fun.

Dont be a wuss-fag. If it starts to hurt, hit the panic button.

>>11321813
An e-stim plug isn't going to burn you as long as you apply plenty of conductive lube to it.
>>11321830
Dude they make bi-polar plugs like the Moaner where one of the poles presses right up against the butthole. Just use that if you want to stimulate that part of your body. It won't burn you, unlike pads.
I'm telling you, I used pads a lot, for a long time. They're not worth the burns. Figure out how to get the same kinds of sensations with different tools like conductive loops, which have never burned me.
As an example, which I've stated previously in the thread, you can do bipolar glans-only stim by routing loops through a chastity cage.
The only thing I use pads for anymore is my balls, when I'm feeling particularly masochistic, and I make damn sure they're held very well in place by elastic wrap and they won't move no matter how I move.
>You turn up the power real gradual. If you feel it pinch (start to burn) , turn it off and reposition it
Well yeah, but the real problem with pads is sometimes they shift when it's feeling REALLY good, sometimes right before you're about to cum. The temptation is then to keep going instead of doing what you should do and immediately turn the power off before you get burned. Then you end up getting burned.
It's best to just avoid this temptation coming up in the first place and not use pads. I've learned this through experience.

>>11321645
Oh cmon! Who hasnt been burned? You play with the light socket, youre gonna get got. It aint the end of the world.

The little .5 x.5 pad is great for sticking to your butthole. It just folds up. Where a 1x1 would wrinkle up - thats where you get your hot spot.

You turn up the power real gradual. If you feel it pinch (start to burn) , turn it off and reposition it or just stick your finger onnit and slide it more center. It aint gonna bite you while youre pressing it to your skin. Then let go slowly to see if you got it right.

Never pull a pad off the skin while its lit. Unless thats the kinda thing you are looking for. Or fuck, just do it once to find out and then youll know.

It wont kill you. Unless you put it on your chest or forehead or inside your dick or on opposite legs. Although opposite butt cheeks is fun.

Dont be a wuss-fag. If it starts to hurt, hit the panic button.

>>11321874
Me, I haven't been retarded enough to get burnt

Wow, this thread is still here. Amazed at the number of people using shitty TENS or Chinese devices. Those fucker hurt. Save your money and buy a unit specifically made for Estim.

I've done estim down my urethra, all the way to my bladder. Used my moaner in da butt, pads on the head, gran, taint, shaft. Stimmed for as long as 12 hours. Done it sober, on weed, and on shrooms. No hands orgasms every time. Never gotten burned. I have a bunch of electrodes - commercial and homemade.

Putting all this out there 'cause I'll probably forget this thread exists for another month.

>>11321951
>Stimmed for as long as 12 hours
Jesus, you must have lost sensitivity down there for days.

>>11321979
When you goon long enough - with estim or not - your dick kinda gets bored of things but desensitization? No, not really. Everything functions fine the next morning. Do that on a TENS and I could see that happening.

>>11321951
>save your money and buy a proper estimate


Hey retard, how about you contribute with some recommendations of good units

Don't just be a whiny cunt faggot who thinks they're better than everyone, retard

>>11322496
Post questions, I'll give answers. I'm not gonna post my entire estim biography on here.

I recommend the ET-312B. MK-312BT is fine too.

>>11322556
What plug gives best ghost fucking sensation

>>11322556
Nigga the et312b is discontinued, retard

Suggest things that can be purchased

>>11322661
The Moaner is good for that but the new Tripples sold at e-stimsystems might be better but there aren't enough reviews out there just yet. If you dial-in your settings just right, it'll literally feel like a fucking sensation. It's pretty cool.

>>11322662
And yet that old piece of hardware is still the best there is. I know. I have two. The MK-312BT is a reverse-engineered et312b.

If you're good at electrical stuff, you can build one or you can pay someone to make one. If you don't want to bother with that, I've read good things about the Dungeon Labs Coyote 3.0.

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How do you avoid getting addicted to electricity? I recently got a cheap EMS massager, which is not fit for estim. But I modified it by attaching two earplug cables on each node and used it to zap my penis and perineum just to see how it feels like. It hurts, but hurts good. This shit is honestly addicing. And I imagine a proper unit likely feels much better.
I can see myself doing poorly at my job because I spent all night trying to get handsfree orgasms with a proper unit. The idea is alluring, but scary.

>>11323674
>because I spent all night trying to get handsfree orgasms with a proper unit
I mean if you run a cock electrode to an anal electrode and use the right e-stim setting you can cum in like 20 seconds bro. Shit doesn't take all night lol.

>>11322681
Where do I get the plans to build one

>>11323679
But what if you're tied up and she leaves that estim running

>>11324147
Ooh sign me up

>>11324147
I have not managed to cum more than twice in a setting, but I'm middle-aged. A youngin may be able to cum more than that.
You definitely want an e-stim unit capable of using audio files for automation if you want to do long-term play with bondage.
Hypothetically, if I was topping a dude in bondage (this would never happen as I'm straight), I'd use two e-stim units, using three of the channels.
Channel A: An electrode on each side of the glans.
Channel B: An electrode on the top of the glans and an anal electrode (if bipolar, the end that goes in the bum)
Channel C: One electrode on each testicle.
Pattern would be as follows:
>10 minutes of channel A edging, slowly ramping in intensity
>5 minutes of channel A + channel B to force an orgasm
>20 minutes of channel C, slowly ramping in intensity
>repeat
I wouldn't do this to anyone for more than two cycles but a young dude as otherwise I'd be afraid of him dropping dead due to a heartattack. This shit can be intense, especially the glans-only stim, which can be panic-inducingly intense.
An e-stim session can be a hell of a cardio session. It really elevates the heart rate.

>>11324360
Tie me up and estim me until I can't cum unless it's anal

I used some pads, one at the base of the penis and another near the head, tied with adhesive tape, when it gets erect I need more power to feel the same, the problem arises when the erection goes down a little and that current level becomes too much and I have to lower it quickly or else it damages the glans (it doesn't burn it, I mean when it's not so erect the current flows too strong inside), I use a Chinese device that is not designed for that

>>11325444
Skill issue

I'm very interested in getting a power supply mainly for pain purposes, how would I go about that? I'd also need audio input, so I can play sound to the device to trigger it.

>>11327116
There's a potential problem with your plan:
Estim devices which use audio to control the output change the frequency of the output based on the frequency of the input.
For pain, what you want to use is a super low frequency like 10 Hz. When it's this low, steady output actually feels like a bunch of extremely short, painful shocks in a row.
The issue here then becomes the audio. What kind of audio are you thinking about using? If you're thinking about just playing an audio file that you custom-made for the session, then that will work. If you're thinking about using something like a game, music, or a dominant partner speaking into a microphone, this won't work for your intended purpose because the frequency of the audio is going to vary and not produce the painful sensations you're looking for.

>>11327297
The idea is to use a computer to output audio, that then gets transferred to the power supply. There's probably an easier way using something like an arduino and a relay to close the circuit, but I don't really know how to do that.
Basically, the aim of the project is to use a trigger in the software to inflict a negative stimulus (pain).

>>11327357
Do you want automated stimulation or do you want a human to be in charge of triggering the stimulation?

>>11327379
In principle, I want it all to run through the computer. Automated or manual should be the same, then, no?

>>11327407
>Automated or manual should be the same, then, no?
No.
It will be very easy to do if it's automated you want.
If it's manual you want, I don't know how to do that because of the frequency issue described by >>11327297
For automated stimming, it's as easy as crafting your own audio file then using a DG-LAB Coyote to play the audio file using the XToys app. For stingy sensations you will want to use 10 Hz audio.
If you want a human to be able to manually trigger stimulation by making noise, though, I'm not sure there's a way to do this and reliably trigger only 10 Hz audio.

>>11327433
I want it to be non-deterministic. So basically, I want to use the estim like an ordinary speaker

>>11327436
>I want it to be non-deterministic.
So... random?
You can definitely simulate random stimulation by crafting long enough of an audio file. A simple method of doing this for random shocks of stingy sensations would be:
>generate long sequence with a random number generator, say, using only numbers between 1 and 5, or 1 and 10
>if the first 10 numbers are 1, 9, 4, 4, 7, 2, 5, 6, 2, 9 then that would correspond to 1 second on, 9 seconds off, 4 seconds on, 4 seconds off, 7 seconds on, etc.
>on = a burst of 10 Hz audio
>off = the audio file is silent for those seconds
Make the audio file long enough and it will seem random - you're not going to be noticing any repeating patterns while you're being stimmed if you make it long enough.
I've done this with testicle e-stim before. It is quite tortuous.

>>11327436
>>11327437
Also, XToys has a "Random Torment" pattern in the public patterns section which can accomplish this as well. Can control possible hold time values, possible wait time values, and possible ramp time values.

I'm back

>>11323674
It's not supposed to hurt. I know you're enjoying it now but you have NO IDEA how good it feels with better hardware.

I avoid addiction by prioritizing longer sessions. 3 hours of edging just below the point of no return feel tons better than chasing 30 second HFOs.

>>11324146
Haven't looked for it in a while. Google search 'MK-312BT'. The plans are out there.

>>11325444
Skill issue. Also, the problem isn't with the estim, That adhesive tape becomes a tight cock ring when you get erect. That's what's keeping you from feeling more pleasure.

>>11327116
Unless you're an electrician, do not do this. Estim and even TENS devices limit the electricity so that you don't get killed. Get a proper device.

>>11327433
>For automated stimming, it's as easy as crafting your own audio file
Most people on here won't find that easy. They don't know how what different sounds, tones, width, and depths feel like unless they're skilled stimmers. Newbies gonna think they can stim from a Taylor Swift track.


Also, holy shit people, stop using cheap chinese TENs devices. They sting!

>>11327433
Just as a note the coyote isn't limited to 10hz, thats just a limit of xtoys
it also doesn't let you use the full range of signal control for the duration of the pulse etc
you can go to like 1hz if you really want a jolt

>>11327569
>Most people on here won't find that easy. They don't know how what different sounds, tones, width, and depths feel like unless they're skilled stimmers. Newbies gonna think they can stim from a Taylor Swift track.
To keep it simple, for those using XToys, 10 Hz = pain, 100 Hz = pleasure.
You can do a LOT with just bursts of 10 Hz and 100 Hz. You can do torment with this, you can do edging with this and you can do hands free orgasms with this.

Does the coyote ever go on sale

>>11328358
Version 3.0 is relatively new and it ships from overseas so it's unlikely to go on sale. Maybe free shipping on Black Friday but I wouldn't bet on much.

Just ordered a coyote...
My stereo stim kinda sucks. Super inconsistent so excited to have something better.
Any tips/trick?

Bump

>>11330216
Big milkers

>>11328530
Fast, got delivered this morning. Sadly no play time for a few days

>>11335815
Just post it here

this is mostly focused on male stim, how does it work for women?

>>11336176
pretty well from what I hear
options for insertable electrodes or pads above/below or on either side

>>11336337
i think i was wondering about downstairs

>>11275156
I tried it for a bit a few years ago. Decided it wasn't for me.
My experience goes something like
1. You are GOING to piss. You need to prepare for it. Even if you pee first, e-stim will find more.
2. Most actual shocks just kinda overstimulated and numbed me. The anticipation of the shocks were great, but any actual shocks mostly just dulled my ability to feel anything.
3. Very mild e-stim was GREAT warmup, an electrode just gently buzzing at my ass, nipples, or cock was really, really good for getting me horny. However, that buildup kinda went nowhere because
4. Empty orgasms. Probably the most disappointing part for me. E-stim could make me cum... technically. Like, dick pulsing, cumming, but, the orgasm was very dull and muted. Interesting experience I'm happy I had, but not really pleasurable, and kinda kills its own vibes.

Dunno how much of that is me-specific, or me doing it wrong, or shit equipment. I have no idea what kind I used, it was a kit I got at a toy swap event, and sent it back at the next one. For me, it's a great foreplay toy, but a pretty lousy one for general use masturbation.

>>11336701
>You are GOING to piss
No that's just you bro. What the fuck?
>Most actual shocks just kinda overstimulated and numbed me.
Amount of numbing is device-dependent. The overstimulating part is fucking great if you're a masochist though. It has me shaking, whining and grunting in self-bondage without fail every-time.
>Empty orgasms. Probably the most disappointing part for me.
Skill and/or device issue. Done right, the orgasms are mind-blowing.
>I have no idea what kind I used, it was a kit I got at a toy swap event
Yeah, the experience will vary greatly depending on device.
For me, nothing comes close to rivaling the experience you get with a good device, a good electrode setup and a good audio file that you custom-wrote for your own preferences.

>>11336525
where exactly do you think I was proposing using an insertable electrode upstairs?

>>11336732
Belly button, duh

>>11324360
What electrodes do you even use to accomplish this? What kind of specific positioning?

I'm pretty experienced in e-stim and the orgasms are great, but finding good electrodes sucks. If one of them comes off or slips it can reset things. I've tried all kinds of things and they all have their issues. Balls are particularly tricky.

Money no object, what's the best setup for that ghost fuck sensation

>>11337774
hire the ghostbusters

>>11337642
>If one of them comes off or slips it can reset things.
Yeah. That's why I use silicone/rubber loops through the holes of very small chastity cages. The cage holds them firmly in place, and the dick doesn't move when it gets soft if the cage is small enough. This is THE solution. I have not burned myself once or had to stop a session to move an electrode once since I started doing this.
>Balls are particularly tricky
I use pads (with ample conductive adhesive rubbed on) held in place with elastic bandages for this - will typically wrap around the balls, twist the bandages a couple times, then wrap around the torso to really hold the whole thing in place.

>>11337932
Ahh okay, yea. I think I've done similar things. Any cage recommendations? Have chastity, but haven't looked at what's out there in awhile

So I got a coyote and I like it a lot, but I haven’t had any luck achieving HFOs, it seems to work best anally. On my dick it’s just too stimulating and not pleasurable. I’ve tried using conductive loops and pads in every configuration I can think of but still no luck. Is there something I’m missing?

Also every audio file I download for it seems to get minor breaks and skips in the wave form which leads to unpleasant jolts. Any advice for that?

>>11338238
Cherry Keeper, Cobra or Cobra knockoff will all work well for using loops with.
Currently running a Cherry Keeper shortwide with the bullet vibe attachment, and an XToys-compatible bullet vibe.
>>11338321
You'll be more likely to have a HFO if you don't cum for a few days before stimming. It also helps to use two penile stim channels at once, and to, instead of using downloaded audio files, use an audio file that you craft yourself to your own tastes.
>it seems to get minor breaks and skips in the wave form which leads to unpleasant jolts
That's your bluetooth connection momentarily crapping out. You need to improve your bluetooth connection. That means keep your device closer to your Coyote or use a different device.

>>11337932
>>11338238
>>11338392
I quite enjoy the irony of using a chastity cage to hands-free orgasm.

I got my coyote in and some play time finally.
God I love it... but a fun un-intended side effect of the anal electrode.
it make my glutes tense so good they are hella sore after my first session. Took 3 days to not ache. I just realized this is what caused it...sitting here with it in again

>>11338321
Do some googling and look up the different nerves you can excite on your dick. Frankly I find the dorsal nerve to be WAY to sensitive to have fun. Almost like someone is knobbing me non stop at low power levels. The perineal nerve however feels much better.
No HFO but I'm just here for the ride anyway so thats all good to me.

>>11339096
Can it also numb nerves? Like could I estim my dick so I couldn't jerk to cum?

>>11339228
>Can it also numb nerves?
It can, especially a TENS device, but probably not to the point where you'll be incapable of orgasm.

>>11339228
>>11339270
What this poster said.
That said it can definitely hurt you enough to not want to cum. So ymmv.

The irony of this morning is I bought the coyote to stim my dick. Today it's on my back cause I did something x.x
I love multipurpose toys.

>>11339270
What if I really want that outcome though

>>11339673
That's what an innie chastity cage is for.

I'm not really into e-stim or futa most of the time, but then I put them together. I want to tie one down bent over with an electrode in her ass and the other one built into a chastity cage for her cock so while I'm fucking her pussy the path of the electricity just pleasantly tingles through me.

>>11339673
you're welcome to shock the shit out of your dick and see what happens

>>11339916
Aight bet, what estim unit is best

>>11340048
the Coyote from DG labs is probably the best unit on the market right now.
Not even trying to shill I have a few DIY devices and have used some older Erostek units and the Coyote just trumps them in most ways.

>>11340533
What setting on it will best numb my nerves

>>11340802
DESU I don't feel the need to answer that question, So instead i'll just say maybe consider some more research into what E-Stim is and how it works. Read a bunch of safety literature about E-Stim and tens. Your answer will likely surface there.
Seriously I get you want to not feel things and that's a joyous and fun idea, but there are real world risks that are not fun.

Sad I don't have any good photos to share here.

>>11340802
100hz constant
ramp up intensity as fast as tolerable

>>11341176
Thank you sir

>>11340802
>What setting on it will best numb my nerves
I second the 100Hz high intensity recommendation.
I'm curious, have you tried anything else to numb yourself? I get the attraction of that.

>>11342878
No im scared of banding so i wanna try this first

>>11343115
just make sure to use electrode gel/good conduction and make sure you're not actually burning yourself

>>11343115
You can literally get lidocaine, the numbing agent they use before you get a tattoo for a few dollars from Amazon or maybe at a tattooist or retail depending on where you live in the world, a small dab of that (wear gloves or put a smaller amount in a cheap condom and use that) will last a decent while and is cheaper and likely safer and less painful than buying an estim device and attempting to fry the tour nerve endings, plus you'll still be to piss while it's numb, you just may need to aim a bit better.

>>11343328
Thanks how can i tell

>>11343480
I dunno, sounds expensive in the long run

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I once read that the army makes use of cattle prods to force dead soldiers to ejaculate so they can keep their sperm for later fertilization.
Has any anon here ever bought or tried using a cattle prod? And does that ejaculation feel good or is it painful/doesn't feel like anything?

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>>11344925
Found it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posthumous_sperm_retrieval
Anyone has tried it?

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>>11344928
Found another one. Its done in dead bodies but I wonder if it'd be plesurable if used to masturbate. Not very knowledgeable in the topic as I just recently got interested in electrostimulation
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c978m6pl99go
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-780309

>>11344929
>I wonder if it'd be plesurable if used to masturbate
haha
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroejaculation
>The probe delivers an AC voltage, usually 12–24 volts sine wave at a frequency of 60 Hz, with a current limited to usually 500 mA
DG Lab Coyote into an insertable:
>Roughly 16,5V amplitude into 100R load = 165mA peak current.
That's WAY more power than an E-stim power box is going to provide. The electroejaculation probe is NOT going to be pleasurable. This is why:
>In humans, electroejaculation is usually carried out under a general anesthetic.
That shit will hurt like hell. It's also likely a hernia risk due to strong pelvic floor contractions.

>>11344925
>>11344928
>>11344929

EXTREME PAIN. Imagine someone extracting your jizz via a powerful kick in the nuts.

>>11345019
>>11344929
This would literally shred your muscles. You have safety disconnects in your brain that prevent you from exerting so much force that you harm yourself. Stories of people lifting cars to save their kids are what happens when a high stress situation disables those protections. But electric shocks bypass the protections altogether by engaging muscular contraction manually without even consulting the brain. This would be like trying to overclock your PC by connecting bare contacts wired to a light socket directly to your motherboard. Only do this if you want massive internal bleeding and potentially permanent crippling if not death.

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>>11345019
>>11345190
>>11345478
Thanks anon, saved me from wrecking myself

>>11345611
Wow.
For once someone actually drew breast e-stim and didn't try to fucking kill the girl by having the electricity path go right over the heart.

>>11344925
They do something similar to extract semen from paraplegics. They do it under general anaesthesia because it is extremely uncomfortable.
They also use a similar process on animals for stud breeding: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroejaculation
Not that even then it is done under anaesthesia.
Doesn't sound like a fun thing. Your mileage may vary, post video. Please post video.

Does the ghost fucking thing work on the female body? Does e-stim work for women at all? Even the guys with wives in this thread only mention using it on the male body

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>>11345728
I would like to know that too

>>11345728
yes
theres plenty of info on it out there if you look for it

Can i use tens to numb the nerves to my penis so i can do chastity with no cage

>>11345190
That's how it should be though

>>11349012
No. A TENS will lessen but not eliminate sensitivity. You'll still be able to jerk off and cum after even a long TENS session.

>>11349301
Can any estim do full temporary numbing

>>11349301
So how is it done

>>11349803
No.

>>11350239
What can

>>11350366
Nothing that is safe to use regularly.

>>11350373
I'll do anything

>>11350386
>I'll do anything
OK then. Stop spamming spoonfeeding requests and stop bumping the thread from page 10 because nobody's answered your multiple, obnoxious spoonfeeding requests.

>>11350461
>don't ask questions i don't like in a basket weaving forum

Bruh chilll

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>>11350735
least annoying newfag zoomer

at least attach a thread related image to your retarded requests

>>11350386
General anesthesia.
You could get lidocaine but it's about as numbing as sitting on your hand for a few minutes. Replying only because lidocaine is rather popular these days. You could have googled this.

>>11351154
General anasthesia wouldn't have me awake for it retard

Lidocaine is weak and barely lasts

>>11324360
I've done some solo play messing around with stuff like this although not all together yet, but the idea if being bound and handing off control to someone else - or being the one given control - is a dream

>>11351931
I heavily enjoyed all of the many sessions I've had with professional dominatrixes and regret none of them. I recommend the experience if you live near a major city.

>>11275158
sauce? engines not finding anything

>>11352016
>professional dominatrixes
Unfortunately they turn me off, I'd much rather have a girlfriend (ideally a switch) instead for it. Unless I intimately trust someone, any type of BDSM activity doesn't sit right with me. But since you've enjoyed your session, care to share what/how they were?

>>11352134
Coward

>>11352134
U gay

I wanted pain in my balls while making my prostate feel good
Is this possible with 1 coyote? I didn't want to buy 2
Can I make a audio file and sync it to a ASMR one where the girls bust my balls?
What about nipples? I was thinking that nipple suckers would feel better but I dunno

>>11353837
it has 2 isolated channels so sure
you can use xtoys to sync to a video
don't mess with nipple stuff until you're more familiar with it

>>11353877
I really wanted to do nipple stuff
I followed that guide to make them sensitive and it actually works
Didn't get an orgasm yet tho

>>11353936
Good luck not giving yourself heart palpitations

>>11351338
And now you know why your question is fucking retarded. Anything strong enough to do what you want is strong enough to knock you the fuck out.

The anon who has spammed dozens of spoonfeeding requests in this thread is obviously mentally ill to the point of completely disregarding safety to satisfy his own fetish. He should be ignored.
Anon, get help for sexual addiction.

>>11354303
Wrong

>>11354382
Everyone here is a sex addict

>>11354303
The only retarded person here is your gatekeeping faggot ass

>>11339673
If you want to desensitize your dick you should look into vibration injury or HAVS. The nerve damage can be permanent and would hence make you anal only.

As you should be.

>>11356185
Tell me more

>>11356185
What are you suggesting

>>11357680
NTA. Jesus fucking wept, you are a tedious little shit.

>>11357978
Cry harder

Just help out the poor lad in frying his dick nerves so we can all move on

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Interested in trying estim, but not sure if I should get the basic model of the DG Coyote or if I'm going to regret not getting the version that comes with the buttons and the plugs.

>>11359629
I bought one recently (last month). I have my own plugs, but I kinda wish I'd sprung for the buttons as well, just to make exploring programming easier.

>>11359629
The basic model is fine. You're better off buying higher quality conductive loops and accessories elsewhere.

>>11359629
Its not strong enough to numb your dick, better off buying an actual strong one

Does anyone here stim their sphincter to tire out the muscle so you can't clench as hard while being fucked?

>>11360142
Kind of. Shock to tire so I can enjoy the feel of being stretched over larger toys. As the fucker I like doing my own stretching.

>>11360519
What's the most effective way to tire it out

>>11360519
>>11360694
I too am interested

>>11345631
>>11345611

I love the feeling of estim in my breasts, but I am literally so terrified of killing myself accidentally. I still do it sometimes, but I find that pumping gets me a similar orgasm so my TENS unit goes mostly unused. Are there any tips for doing it the right way? Is it really just too risky to bother? Any suggestions on other breast and nipple stimulation methods?

>>11361218

You can get good nipple dome clones off aliexpress for 30 bucks and those don't run the risk of giving you a heart attack.

>>11361218
Your risking death, but hey darwin awards don't win themselves

So who else numbs their dick with estim like me, wanting to share and trade notes to improve

>>11362203
get help anon

>>11361218
if the circuit doesn't cross through your chest, it's probably fine. put both electrodes on one breast, in other words.

>>11362307
Why, it's not as risky as stimming on the chest

>>11362317
That's exactly what I do. I keep the arc as short as possible, basically across the nipple. Using only one pair across both breasts would be retarded. I think it would also be retarded to do it at all if my breasts weren't so big.

>>11361835
Can you advise what keyword to use? I found the originals on their website, but aliexpress was giving me a bunch of random junk.

>>11362948
its not about risk, its about being obsessed and begging to be spoonfed over and over

>>11362975
I posted about something i enjoy wtf you on about

>>11362975
Retard you killed the thread by arguing so much

>>11362975
Never seen afaggot kill a thread so quick

>>11362966

https://aliexpress.com/item/1005007348049420.html

I've been having fun with these: suction is mechanical, battery looks decent and the tips are magnetic so you can buy the good ones intended for the actual nipple dome.

I got the Coyote a few weeks back and it's a lot of fun, but the anal plug doesn't do much for me. Is the Moaner worth the price?

>>11364664
Moaner is goated

>>11364664
Get the moaner

bump

>>11365828
Such contribute, wow

Hey i was told you guys might be able to advise me on numbing my dick nerves with estim to do like a no cage chastity deal

>>11366615
kys

>>11367325
That will cause full body
Perma numbness, anon just wanted to numb the penor

>>11367402
kys

>>11367325
>>11367433

You should buy some additional keyboard keys

>>11366615
wrap your cock and balls in tinfoil and stick it in a live electrical outlet

>>11367833
Remember to use the commercial grade tinfoil. Don't want to do this by half measures now do you.

>>11367833
The breaker popped before anything happened

>>11369470
Premature ejaculation is a bitch.

>>11369924
Kek