General questions:>What's the legal status of women(slaves, pets, 2nd class, etc)?>Where's the motivation for the Patriarchy in your setting(Malice, Paternalism, etc)?>Is the ideal form of domination hardcore/softcore or something in-between?>What does "education" look like for women in your setting?Last Thread>>11308280Archives:https://archived.moe/d/search/subject/Patriarchy/https://desuarchive.org/d/search/subject/Patriarchy/Disclaimer:This thread is for fetishizing a patriarchy where it's biological men being Doms and biological Women as Subs
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I'm the corrected feminist lurker who posted in the last thread and I've been amazed to see how much society has changed since I started encountered patriarchy and LGD fetishism as an angry feminist lesbian and started trying to debate men in the patriarchy thread. I got chills when abortion was overruled, but part of me thought it was a fluke, or there would be a backlash in the other direction. But since then it's felt like feminism is just melting away everywhere. The fact that Gen Z is swinging so hard to the right, Sydney Sweeney coming out as a registered republican while openly flaunting herself as a sex symbol. Meanwhile DEI is gone overnight, meaning no more quotas and diversity hiring and all of those overpaid HR jobs are going to disappear, seems like "me too" is over as well.It's pretty clear to me that we're on the brink of large scale repeal of women's rights due to rapidly falling birthrates, and honestly I'm ecstatic. It's not really about politics, it's just that it's been so clear to me for so long that feminism makes no sense for our species on a biological level. I can't wait until i can admit that publicly without it being controversial.
>>11366022>What's the legal status of women(slaves, pets, 2nd class, etc)?Surprisingly, they're the Patriarchy's most valuable resource. And just like wood or oil, they are raw matter to be exploited and used by men. In my patriarchy men are naturally smarter and technologically attuned than women while women have natural magical affinity which in their teenage years can manifest in them becoming Puella Magi. Now not every girl can manifest such potential, some just manifest minor magic tied to their level of emotional expression while the ones who become Puella Magi tend to be women with extreme emotional affinity, empathy and fluctuation (they also become more powerful during their periods).Men managed to weaponize that by taking women's Soul Gems and reverse engineering them to turn them into weapons men can use, or tools to control Puella Magi. After that men's patriarchy arose, with the Elites gaining control of several Puella Magi and using them to take out any rivals.>Where's the motivation for the Patriarchy in your setting(Malice, Paternalism, etc)?Oppression and Control can be seen as the main themes of the Patriarchy. Males have become the main marketers of energy in the universe, exporting it by plugging JK girls or even JC's with enough magical potential to drain centers matrix style and sucked out of their magical power to essentially get unlimited energy and girls are cheap and easy to produce.A new side market has also appeared with magical girl bodyguards to do man's bidding or hunt down any dissident. Any attempt to rebel and a man needs only press a button to cause unbearable pain to a Puella Magi, prolonged use can drive her insane or comatose.
>>11366415We still going over some stuff from >>11365653?>1. Rape as a property crimeThat's the historical side of it, fetish aspect is (woman's) consent as a concept just isn't even a thing.If a man wishes to fuck his wives (or slaves) that's his right.Think maybe women are groomed by society just to accept this sort of thing, or a trained to be "always on".Softer side is /d/ sex positivity, women are encouraged to express their need to be "raped" rather then it being suppressed as a taboo.>2. denied politics/banned from educationAnti intellectualism/"Bimbo mindset" seems like something you could get women to easily buy into and enforce on each other.It's the whole concept of women as social creatures taking a /d/ turn here.Related point is where you see women "Working" in your society?Past posts seem to lean towards motherhood, service/sex work being a "woman's place">5. men physical control and discipline women.Closer to IRL, but AI and modern technology opens up new ways to control women.Smart collars, with tracking, voice/video feeds, GPS tracking etc.AI assistants being sold to women as a means to help then in daily life, but in reality it aims to create technological dependence.Women leave the thinking to the Cute AI in her collar and her master who controls it all.>6. educated women as gender traitors... As soon as there is no longer a need, they're discardedMaybe it's more of disappearing from public/political life and retiring as a wife or a "Queen of the harem" type deal.Women should be rewarded for her service as a gender traitor.Besides having women turn on each other out of self interest would be fun to watch
>>11366455Another button for more risk cases exists that makes the Soul Gem explode though this one is used as a last resort since magical girls are valuable. Yet another overwhelms the girl with unbearable bliss and pleasure (this one's reserved as a reward for a good job).>Is the ideal form of domination hardcore/softcore or something in-between?The control is one of the main ways men are able to dominate magical girls, but a strong propaganda program is also implemented on girls since birth to get accustomed to their role and even see it as desirable with magical girl shows like Cock Captor Sakura or Sailor Fucker being played on the daily.Girls with potential are taken to processing centers (and their parents paid handsomely) to be trained into magical assassins and bodyguards. They are taught to unleash their emotions through torture and other methods to increase their potential until they awaken as Puella Magi, so that they can be as powerful as possible while also taught to be submissive to men and obedient in every command.Girls with less potential can be taken to the processing plants where they're hooked to the machine and extracted of their magical essence to power the modern world (they're far stronger and less polluting than nuclear energy).If these strategies for control weren't good enough, squads of magical girls are kept by the government and corporations to take out any dissidents and their varied arrays of skills and magical abilities make them more than a match for any sole rebel magical girl.>What does "education" look like for women in your setting?Women have no need for one, just to be fed into the idea of being a magical girl and a good trad wife. Girls with no magical potential get to be pets or wives to men while those with magical potential either get taken to the processing plants to be sucked off their magic if low, or turned into magical girls if high.
>>11366461>We still going over some stuff from >>11365653 ?Anon who was scolding her here, even if bullying slaves is fun I don't like to step on the dudes here too much. This isn't the right thread for telling a bitch that girls are people and she isn't. At least not all the time, it's hard to have another place for that occasional fun.Since I like those little mounds on her front end so much if she posts her ass on her back end then maybe. Depends on if people here actually get into the soul gem based magocratic patriarchy or similar. Bitches who know way too many big words are going to end up in the mines instead of being a battery when they grow up.
>>11366461>6. educated women as gender traitors... As soon as there is no longer a need, they're discardedThe rare woman who actually materially benefits from an education would just be a somewhat higher value mother. Education exists for women, but it mostly exist to equip her with the tools to fulfill her role in society. So they make sure she's literate- what she's reading is just propaganda to reinforce her place anyways- and they make sure she's capable of vocational math. But where a high school boy might be learning calculus and physics, she's going to home economics. Outside of that education would only exist to make a woman a more valuable prize for a man who is likewise academically inclined. >>11366415>It's not really about politics, it's just that it's been so clear to me for so long that feminism makes no sense for our species on a biological level.Feminism may have started to advance the plight of low value women but it became the plaything of wealthy bored ones. I don't know about seeing a rollback of women's rights but on a social level women are going to start pushing women back into conventional life roles. The few women actively benefitting from feminism don't justify the misery of the rest.
>>11366455>>11366463>girls are cheap and easy to produce.>hooked to the machine and extracted of their magical essence"Magical girl"/Human battery industrial complex as a concept is a fun /d/ystopian thing to play with.Women strapped into the machine and spends their time in orgasmic bliss so emotions can be harvested for power.All while their wombs are put to use producing daughters, could see this being an entirely self enclosed operation too.Women born in these facilities being raised in onsite "schools", being screened for magical power or failing test and being sold at marriage markets.Along side the natural way of producing women it goes on at an industrial scale too, it's a new level of dehumanizing them.>Any attempt to rebel and a man needs only press a buttonAlways assumed with that women being "born into the system" means female rebellion would be handled by indoctrination.IRL you have women being taught to suppress their natural urges/wants for the sake of a soulless corporation's bottom line.Women if accept that, then they'll buy into anything with enough encouragement>>11366501>even if bullying slaves is funThat sort of thing extends to slaves being "crabs in a bucket", women keeping each other inline seeing their proper place as being collared serving men.A perversion of how IRL being a wife/mother is looked down on>>11366746>make a woman a more valuable prize for a man who is likewise academically inclinedMore a fan of women being educated being a preference of her owner.So you have it going from illiterate bimbos to lab coat sluts, with the latter being rare/restricted goods.
>>11367180>Along side the natural way of producing women it goes on at an industrial scale too, it's a new level of dehumanizing them.Exactly, its a beautiful system to manage them and magical girl bodies are resistant. Provided the Soul Gem is intact and she got enough power to regenerate, she can go back to normal no matter how much damage her body has sustained.They lend themselves to many kinky scenarios>Always assumed with that women being "born into the system" means female rebellion would be handled by indoctrination.Some masters enjoy them defiant~
>>11367312>back to normal no matter how much damage her body has sustained.>They lend themselves to many kinky scenariosSeems like there's room here to commodify masochistic women.Types of women with strong magical ability would be the ones usually put into practical roles like assassins/bodyguards.Keeping one purely as a toy(pain slave or not), could easily be a flex by the most wealthy slave masters.>Some masters enjoy them defiant~Another fun opportunity to exploit women, with most being born n raised slaves.Submission/obedience is the norm, actually resistant women are a rare commodityAnd that's "Used up" when these women give in after enough rape.Along side regular slave auctions and magic testing, you'd have these rebel type bitches being offered as exclusive goods.Being sold to rich men that want to genuinely rape women or to brothels aiming to make her the star attraction(at least till she gives in).Either way, regardless of high female birth rates specialty slave women remain rare
>>11367789One idea i really liked from the handmaid's tale is how high status intellectual feminist women who refused to participate in the new order are offered a "deal." In exchange for their surrender, they get to live in a "pleasure house" and act as courtesans for wealthy men and visiting foreign dignitaries. They are not forced to breed or have nonconsensual sex while there, and are microchipped, but are not allowed to leave unless acting as a paid escort with a tracking collar. Instead they can charge men credits for sex, lapdances, regular dances or strip shows at rates they may set, (but not for talking, singing, or any non sexual entertainment). They can only spend these credits on approved items offered within the pleasure house, but they must make enough to pay for their room and board also under the terms of the surrender agreement, so sex ends up being compulsory anyway if they want to preserve their lifestyle. They get to while away their days, clad in erotic garments and jewelery, acting as entertainers, escorts, and prostitutes for high class men. They offer intelligent conversation political debate with people of a more liberal persuasion from the old world, while they gain insight into goings on in the new world (where patriarchy is being cemented more firmly with each passing year). They get to argue about how they made a choice to protect their "bodily autonomy" and how women's liberation will one day return, while being indulged by men who find the performance very funny.There's something about patriarchal fantasies written by a woman that just gets me like nothing else does. I see the transition to patriarchy gradual humiliation and the slow slide toward complete acceptance of my status as property (a state of total bliss), playing out over a period of a couple decades. This was somewhat similar to how my own views changed on womens rights over the past ~6 to 8 years.
>>11367984>not forced to breed or have nonconsensual sex>made a choice to protect their "bodily autonomy"Consent being a core feminist ideal being mocked in this way cause these women "chose" this is something they shouldn't be allowed to forget.Like maybe these women are allowed to keep their honorific titles(Dr, Prof, etc.) and even diplomas/awards too.Just imagine the juxtaposition with all these academic achievements being displayed on the wall or in glass cases while she's selling her body and serving as a sex toy for men.Pleasure house menus show off their women like it's a university staff list, except there's also listed rates for sex acts and what type of stuff they consent to.All just "salt in the wound" type stuff to mock them!>must make enough to pay for their room and boardThat sounds like the perfect way to push these women further into depravity and break any "red lines" they set for themselves.It's a exclusive sex club for the rich, small group of clientele makes it easy for the to conspire to boycott a escort till her rent is due.And out of desperation she'll say "yes" to things she wouldn't otherwise, till this new low becomes the norm.Also kind of wondering what happens to women if they fail to pay her fees?>transition to patriarchy gradual humiliationNote on further hamulating feminists; women's reproductive rights is one of their pillars so these threads focus a lot on pregnancy/breeding.Could see a setting where birth control or abortion still available but it's all controlled by men "cause they know best"(paternalism).Feminism said it'd free women but it's turned into tools for masters to control their slaves.
>>11366501No bully. Only joys and plenty of food, I'd treat her like a pampered pet. And enjoy seeing other people's slaves glare at her well-fed body and genuine content smile in envy.
>>11368561Maybe not that well fed, but yes. Understated but still content smile, not a literal skeleton like some of the worse off girls. A lot of pain and scolding even day to day, but she believes in exactly what Master has ordered her to, since at the end of the day a slave can't really have a value system beyond "slave", its just how their simple minds are. A happy and pleasurable slave reflects well on who owns them. If your slave just scowls at everyone, doesn't seem to brighten anyone's day, then that's a failure of who controls her, even if she is just destined to be worked to death. slaves are meant to make people happy and thus should embody happiness itself.
>>11368290>what happens to a woman if she fails to pay her fees?She's given a bar code tattoo documenting the default, and there is a debt auction where the purchaser pays her debts and then owns her outright. Generally they will end up in cheap brothels that operate outside the law, where they are often sterilized to prevent pregnancy. Abuse and mistreatment and "accidental" killing is known to occur. Defaulted former feminists typically do not carry much if any appeal for retail consumers or ordinary men who want breeding stock. They prefer voluntary surrendered women or captives for that. Of course there have been stories that once in a while a wealthy client took pity on his former debate partner, bought her, married, and she tearfully renounced her feminist beliefs and bore him many children, but such fairy tales don't reflect the typical scenario. If particularly capable, they will be acquired by the state and employed by the military, police, propaganda or espionage departments, after going through an experimental neural resocializing process to correct their political views and crush any disloyal tendencies. There might even be other experimental uses, such as space colonization or something like the starcraft ghost program.
