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General questions:
>What's the legal status of women(slaves, pets, 2nd class, etc)?
>Where's the motivation for the Patriarchy in your setting(Malice, Paternalism, etc)?
>Is the ideal form of domination hardcore/softcore or something in-between?
>What does "education" look like for women in your setting?

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Archives:
https://archived.moe/d/search/subject/Patriarchy/
https://desuarchive.org/d/search/subject/Patriarchy/

Disclaimer:
This thread is for fetishizing a patriarchy where it's biological men being Doms and biological Women as Subs
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I'm the corrected feminist lurker who posted in the last thread and I've been amazed to see how much society has changed since I started encountered patriarchy and LGD fetishism as an angry feminist lesbian and started trying to debate men in the patriarchy thread.

I got chills when abortion was overruled, but part of me thought it was a fluke, or there would be a backlash in the other direction. But since then it's felt like feminism is just melting away everywhere. The fact that Gen Z is swinging so hard to the right, Sydney Sweeney coming out as a registered republican while openly flaunting herself as a sex symbol. Meanwhile DEI is gone overnight, meaning no more quotas and diversity hiring and all of those overpaid HR jobs are going to disappear, seems like "me too" is over as well.


It's pretty clear to me that we're on the brink of large scale repeal of women's rights due to rapidly falling birthrates, and honestly I'm ecstatic. It's not really about politics, it's just that it's been so clear to me for so long that feminism makes no sense for our species on a biological level. I can't wait until i can admit that publicly without it being controversial.
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>>11366022
>What's the legal status of women(slaves, pets, 2nd class, etc)?
Surprisingly, they're the Patriarchy's most valuable resource. And just like wood or oil, they are raw matter to be exploited and used by men. In my patriarchy men are naturally smarter and technologically attuned than women while women have natural magical affinity which in their teenage years can manifest in them becoming Puella Magi. Now not every girl can manifest such potential, some just manifest minor magic tied to their level of emotional expression while the ones who become Puella Magi tend to be women with extreme emotional affinity, empathy and fluctuation (they also become more powerful during their periods).
Men managed to weaponize that by taking women's Soul Gems and reverse engineering them to turn them into weapons men can use, or tools to control Puella Magi. After that men's patriarchy arose, with the Elites gaining control of several Puella Magi and using them to take out any rivals.
>Where's the motivation for the Patriarchy in your setting(Malice, Paternalism, etc)?
Oppression and Control can be seen as the main themes of the Patriarchy. Males have become the main marketers of energy in the universe, exporting it by plugging JK girls or even JC's with enough magical potential to drain centers matrix style and sucked out of their magical power to essentially get unlimited energy and girls are cheap and easy to produce.
A new side market has also appeared with magical girl bodyguards to do man's bidding or hunt down any dissident. Any attempt to rebel and a man needs only press a button to cause unbearable pain to a Puella Magi, prolonged use can drive her insane or comatose.
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>>11366415
We still going over some stuff from >>11365653?

>1. Rape as a property crime
That's the historical side of it, fetish aspect is (woman's) consent as a concept just isn't even a thing.
If a man wishes to fuck his wives (or slaves) that's his right.
Think maybe women are groomed by society just to accept this sort of thing, or a trained to be "always on".
Softer side is /d/ sex positivity, women are encouraged to express their need to be "raped" rather then it being suppressed as a taboo.

>2. denied politics/banned from education
Anti intellectualism/"Bimbo mindset" seems like something you could get women to easily buy into and enforce on each other.
It's the whole concept of women as social creatures taking a /d/ turn here.
Related point is where you see women "Working" in your society?
Past posts seem to lean towards motherhood, service/sex work being a "woman's place"

>5. men physical control and discipline women.
Closer to IRL, but AI and modern technology opens up new ways to control women.
Smart collars, with tracking, voice/video feeds, GPS tracking etc.
AI assistants being sold to women as a means to help then in daily life, but in reality it aims to create technological dependence.
Women leave the thinking to the Cute AI in her collar and her master who controls it all.

>6. educated women as gender traitors... As soon as there is no longer a need, they're discarded
Maybe it's more of disappearing from public/political life and retiring as a wife or a "Queen of the harem" type deal.
Women should be rewarded for her service as a gender traitor.
Besides having women turn on each other out of self interest would be fun to watch
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>>11366455
Another button for more risk cases exists that makes the Soul Gem explode though this one is used as a last resort since magical girls are valuable. Yet another overwhelms the girl with unbearable bliss and pleasure (this one's reserved as a reward for a good job).
>Is the ideal form of domination hardcore/softcore or something in-between?
The control is one of the main ways men are able to dominate magical girls, but a strong propaganda program is also implemented on girls since birth to get accustomed to their role and even see it as desirable with magical girl shows like Cock Captor Sakura or Sailor Fucker being played on the daily.
Girls with potential are taken to processing centers (and their parents paid handsomely) to be trained into magical assassins and bodyguards. They are taught to unleash their emotions through torture and other methods to increase their potential until they awaken as Puella Magi, so that they can be as powerful as possible while also taught to be submissive to men and obedient in every command.
Girls with less potential can be taken to the processing plants where they're hooked to the machine and extracted of their magical essence to power the modern world (they're far stronger and less polluting than nuclear energy).
If these strategies for control weren't good enough, squads of magical girls are kept by the government and corporations to take out any dissidents and their varied arrays of skills and magical abilities make them more than a match for any sole rebel magical girl.
>What does "education" look like for women in your setting?
Women have no need for one, just to be fed into the idea of being a magical girl and a good trad wife. Girls with no magical potential get to be pets or wives to men while those with magical potential either get taken to the processing plants to be sucked off their magic if low, or turned into magical girls if high.
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>>11366461
>We still going over some stuff from >>11365653 ?

Anon who was scolding her here, even if bullying slaves is fun I don't like to step on the dudes here too much. This isn't the right thread for telling a bitch that girls are people and she isn't. At least not all the time, it's hard to have another place for that occasional fun.

Since I like those little mounds on her front end so much if she posts her ass on her back end then maybe. Depends on if people here actually get into the soul gem based magocratic patriarchy or similar. Bitches who know way too many big words are going to end up in the mines instead of being a battery when they grow up.
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>>11366461
>6. educated women as gender traitors... As soon as there is no longer a need, they're discarded
The rare woman who actually materially benefits from an education would just be a somewhat higher value mother. Education exists for women, but it mostly exist to equip her with the tools to fulfill her role in society. So they make sure she's literate- what she's reading is just propaganda to reinforce her place anyways- and they make sure she's capable of vocational math. But where a high school boy might be learning calculus and physics, she's going to home economics. Outside of that education would only exist to make a woman a more valuable prize for a man who is likewise academically inclined.
>>11366415
>It's not really about politics, it's just that it's been so clear to me for so long that feminism makes no sense for our species on a biological level.
Feminism may have started to advance the plight of low value women but it became the plaything of wealthy bored ones. I don't know about seeing a rollback of women's rights but on a social level women are going to start pushing women back into conventional life roles. The few women actively benefitting from feminism don't justify the misery of the rest.
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>>11366463
>girls are cheap and easy to produce.
>hooked to the machine and extracted of their magical essence
"Magical girl"/Human battery industrial complex as a concept is a fun /d/ystopian thing to play with.
Women strapped into the machine and spends their time in orgasmic bliss so emotions can be harvested for power.
All while their wombs are put to use producing daughters, could see this being an entirely self enclosed operation too.
Women born in these facilities being raised in onsite "schools", being screened for magical power or failing test and being sold at marriage markets.
Along side the natural way of producing women it goes on at an industrial scale too, it's a new level of dehumanizing them.

>Any attempt to rebel and a man needs only press a button
Always assumed with that women being "born into the system" means female rebellion would be handled by indoctrination.
IRL you have women being taught to suppress their natural urges/wants for the sake of a soulless corporation's bottom line.
Women if accept that, then they'll buy into anything with enough encouragement

>>11366501
>even if bullying slaves is fun
That sort of thing extends to slaves being "crabs in a bucket", women keeping each other inline seeing their proper place as being collared serving men.
A perversion of how IRL being a wife/mother is looked down on

>>11366746
>make a woman a more valuable prize for a man who is likewise academically inclined
More a fan of women being educated being a preference of her owner.
So you have it going from illiterate bimbos to lab coat sluts, with the latter being rare/restricted goods.
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>Along side the natural way of producing women it goes on at an industrial scale too, it's a new level of dehumanizing them.
Exactly, its a beautiful system to manage them and magical girl bodies are resistant. Provided the Soul Gem is intact and she got enough power to regenerate, she can go back to normal no matter how much damage her body has sustained.
They lend themselves to many kinky scenarios
>Always assumed with that women being "born into the system" means female rebellion would be handled by indoctrination.
Some masters enjoy them defiant~
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>back to normal no matter how much damage her body has sustained.
>They lend themselves to many kinky scenarios
Seems like there's room here to commodify masochistic women.
Types of women with strong magical ability would be the ones usually put into practical roles like assassins/bodyguards.
Keeping one purely as a toy(pain slave or not), could easily be a flex by the most wealthy slave masters.

>Some masters enjoy them defiant~
Another fun opportunity to exploit women, with most being born n raised slaves.
Submission/obedience is the norm, actually resistant women are a rare commodity
And that's "Used up" when these women give in after enough rape.
Along side regular slave auctions and magic testing, you'd have these rebel type bitches being offered as exclusive goods.
Being sold to rich men that want to genuinely rape women or to brothels aiming to make her the star attraction(at least till she gives in).
Either way, regardless of high female birth rates specialty slave women remain rare
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One idea i really liked from the handmaid's tale is how high status intellectual feminist women who refused to participate in the new order are offered a "deal." In exchange for their surrender, they get to live in a "pleasure house" and act as courtesans for wealthy men and visiting foreign dignitaries. They are not forced to breed or have nonconsensual sex while there, and are microchipped, but are not allowed to leave unless acting as a paid escort with a tracking collar. Instead they can charge men credits for sex, lapdances, regular dances or strip shows at rates they may set, (but not for talking, singing, or any non sexual entertainment). They can only spend these credits on approved items offered within the pleasure house, but they must make enough to pay for their room and board also under the terms of the surrender agreement, so sex ends up being compulsory anyway if they want to preserve their lifestyle. They get to while away their days, clad in erotic garments and jewelery, acting as entertainers, escorts, and prostitutes for high class men. They offer intelligent conversation political debate with people of a more liberal persuasion from the old world, while they gain insight into goings on in the new world (where patriarchy is being cemented more firmly with each passing year). They get to argue about how they made a choice to protect their "bodily autonomy" and how women's liberation will one day return, while being indulged by men who find the performance very funny.

There's something about patriarchal fantasies written by a woman that just gets me like nothing else does. I see the transition to patriarchy gradual humiliation and the slow slide toward complete acceptance of my status as property (a state of total bliss), playing out over a period of a couple decades. This was somewhat similar to how my own views changed on womens rights over the past ~6 to 8 years.
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>>11367984
>not forced to breed or have nonconsensual sex
>made a choice to protect their "bodily autonomy"
Consent being a core feminist ideal being mocked in this way cause these women "chose" this is something they shouldn't be allowed to forget.
Like maybe these women are allowed to keep their honorific titles(Dr, Prof, etc.) and even diplomas/awards too.
Just imagine the juxtaposition with all these academic achievements being displayed on the wall or in glass cases while she's selling her body and serving as a sex toy for men.
Pleasure house menus show off their women like it's a university staff list, except there's also listed rates for sex acts and what type of stuff they consent to.
All just "salt in the wound" type stuff to mock them!

>must make enough to pay for their room and board
That sounds like the perfect way to push these women further into depravity and break any "red lines" they set for themselves.
It's a exclusive sex club for the rich, small group of clientele makes it easy for the to conspire to boycott a escort till her rent is due.
And out of desperation she'll say "yes" to things she wouldn't otherwise, till this new low becomes the norm.

Also kind of wondering what happens to women if they fail to pay her fees?

>transition to patriarchy gradual humiliation
Note on further hamulating feminists; women's reproductive rights is one of their pillars so these threads focus a lot on pregnancy/breeding.
Could see a setting where birth control or abortion still available but it's all controlled by men "cause they know best"(paternalism).
Feminism said it'd free women but it's turned into tools for masters to control their slaves.
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>>11366501
No bully. Only joys and plenty of food, I'd treat her like a pampered pet. And enjoy seeing other people's slaves glare at her well-fed body and genuine content smile in envy.
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Maybe not that well fed, but yes. Understated but still content smile, not a literal skeleton like some of the worse off girls. A lot of pain and scolding even day to day, but she believes in exactly what Master has ordered her to, since at the end of the day a slave can't really have a value system beyond "slave", its just how their simple minds are.

A happy and pleasurable slave reflects well on who owns them. If your slave just scowls at everyone, doesn't seem to brighten anyone's day, then that's a failure of who controls her, even if she is just destined to be worked to death. slaves are meant to make people happy and thus should embody happiness itself.
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>>11368290

>what happens to a woman if she fails to pay her fees?

She's given a bar code tattoo documenting the default, and there is a debt auction where the purchaser pays her debts and then owns her outright. Generally they will end up in cheap brothels that operate outside the law, where they are often sterilized to prevent pregnancy. Abuse and mistreatment and "accidental" killing is known to occur. Defaulted former feminists typically do not carry much if any appeal for retail consumers or ordinary men who want breeding stock. They prefer voluntary surrendered women or captives for that. Of course there have been stories that once in a while a wealthy client took pity on his former debate partner, bought her, married, and she tearfully renounced her feminist beliefs and bore him many children, but such fairy tales don't reflect the typical scenario.

If particularly capable, they will be acquired by the state and employed by the military, police, propaganda or espionage departments, after going through an experimental neural resocializing process to correct their political views and crush any disloyal tendencies. There might even be other experimental uses, such as space colonization or something like the starcraft ghost program.
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>>11368654
>ordinary men who want breeding stock.
>prefer voluntary surrendered women or captives for that
During patriarchal uprisings there would obviously be female collaborators, how would these women be treated?
The ones who didn't wait till surrender/capture was the obvious outcome, these are women who actively helped in establishing the patriarchy.

>wealthy client took pity on his former debate partner
>fairy tales don't reflect the typical scenario
Kind of hoping life in pleasure houses reforms feminists well before they fail to pay their dues.
Joining her lover as one of his wives might be far fetched, maybe a lower station like concubine or personal sex pet?

>>11367984
>idea i really liked from the handmaid's tale
Not too familiar with everything from that book, any other good fetish fuel from that IP?
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>>11368790
>During patriarchal uprisings there would obviously be female collaborators, how would these women be treated?
Headpats.
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>>11368887
>Headpats.
This but unironically, attention starving women, love bombing, etc.
Emotional manipulation can go a long way.
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>>11368887
Female collaborators are guided by their Masters to a grey room, after a period of acclimatization and love bombing, where they are properly edged. Inside, they find a restrained feminist, most likely one they know, or one they themselves ratted out.
They are given all the drugs, stimulants, tools, sexual or otherwise they might need, and a new chastity belt, and permitted to unleash their frustrations upon the restrained feminist once the door is closed.
Since the Female Collaborator might be a novice at Witch Breaking, the Feminist is already broken by more specialized agents, but female malice is endless, and new techniques can always spring forth fom a Woman scorned by Feminism.
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Yes, that well fed. I love the idea of my slave being genuinenly cheerful and bubbly, and her meaty body standing out from most of the other slaves.
And she knows that she basically won the lottery when she was sold to me; never having to experience cold or hunger again, unlike many others. Loyalty through kindness is where it's at.
Though harem outfits like pic related would be a must, I don't want an inch of that body hidden when she's walking (and happily dancing) around the house.
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>>11369141
Hey no shade on people who like their property a different way. Mine is still thin and cute, but their meals are just as measured and proportioned as what you have going on there. Loyalty through kindness is still exactly the kind of paternalism you want, they should be happy since this is a really good outcome as far as being a slave is concerned. It could be far worse, and it will be if they aren't grateful.

Those harem outfits would be a good choice, although I am just too much on team permanent forced nudity to ever have my girls wear stuff like that. If your entire body is mine then why is there even a single inch of fabric covering it? I want to see what I own at all hours of the day, it is theft from me to think you deserve modesty. At most some ribbons like picrel could be fun but it should mostly begin and end with her collar.
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>>11368790

I think the instinct to reward, praise or appreciate women for being sell outs is understandable, but it reflects a fundamental misunderstanding of female nature.

To begin with, our political views, choices, what we thinks are our contributions to a cause should never be accorded with respect or excessive praise/reward. My subservient position to men is both a biological imperative and a forgone conclusion. In my view, it's not appropriate to reward me or any other woman for doing the bare minimum of what we're required to do. We owe men our obedience, our labor, and our bodies. Period. Full stop. It's simply a natural law that men have to enforce. There may be a right or wrong way to treat us, in the context of being titled property (i.e. livestock) but that is something for other men to regulate and enforce, it is not something for us women to question or challenge. By that token Mistreatment of women should never be an offense more serious than a speeding ticket. Perhaps your onwership license can be revoked, but it should never have a moral sanction or imprisonment attached as a penalty.

Believe it or not, it makes sense and there is a reason behind it. It might be hard to accept, but women are not truly capable of higher logical reasoning. Everything that we do that appears to reflect reasoning is actually an attempt to perform roles assigned by men and gain approval from men through behaviors we have been told will lead to reward: which for us is male attention. This is why women respond much better to men who are emotionally unavailable and who maintain control through physical discipline and fear. Western feminists will howl at this but it's the undeniable product of many thousands of years of behavioral conditioning and natural selection.
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>>11369310
Why the fuck is this thing using big words again? How have you somehow conned yourself into believing you are capable of thinking?

Post your ass, flattie. Do as you're fucking told.
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>>11369324

It wouldn't be appropriate for me to attention whore in the patriarchy thread though. This thread is for worldbuilding about patriarchal scenarios and posting anime porn. Posting IRL female nudity would ruin it
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>>11369310
>natural law that men have to enforce
>being titled property (i.e. livestock)
This should be something women in the patriarchy are always reminded of, even without direct action of her owner.
Socially there's things like honorifics, bowing, "only speak when spoken to", etc.
Slave collars, ear tags(like cattle), barcode tattoos and other small physical reminders that women are property.
Think the term for this is humiliation rituals, anyone have ideas for this sort of thing?

>men to regulate and enforce
Like this kind of wiggle room, allows for paternalism and a colder side of slavery to deal with resistant feminists/female criminals.
Society might not even bother with reforming them, better use them as rape bait or living incubators no different from livestock >>11366463
Last thread there was the bit about enforced polygamy/emotional distance >>11365653
so artificial insemination and surrogacy is used to "manufacture" women like they're products and skew the population to have more women to go arround

>perform roles assigned by men and gain approval from men...
>behavioral conditioning
See >>11369047 on training, a functioning patriarchy would rely on having women that actively support the system
A breeder/incubator isn't necessarily also a mother, so the topic of slave schools is often brought up.
Feminism could be done away with just a few generations of properly indoctrinated women.
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>>11369539
I notice this as a pattern among women who claim to be ultra submissive. They never do what you tell them.
I realize this is a public anonymous fantasy porn thread, but I've bumped into it IRL.
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>>11369539
Whatever, bitch. Free thought is not a virtue for you, neither is disobedience.

>>11369649
>Humiliation rituals
I like the idea of slaves never standing, unless it is essential to the service they are doing. Sure you'll need to stand to cook things infront of the stove, or to clean a lot of your Master's home, but even when not in a superior's presence you should still drop to your knees whenever you can. The floor is where you belong, and a slave should figuratively and literally always look up to who she serves.

>>11369705
They're like this IRL since they're extremely anxious about basically everything. I guarantee you that thing has been having crying fits over this. Unless you are literally present to force the anxiety out of them, their little minds will find some way to be scared of doing anything.

She's lucky she's actually pretty cute. Not that that really changes anything in her mind, slaves will still argue with their superiors about how they are ugly and unloveable despite the fact they also swear up and down they are not mentally capable of free will or meaningfully disagreeing with someone better than them.

Honestly there's a reason why I would be mad about a real life friend believing that stuff but a real life slave just isn't human enough to have the same rules applied.
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>>11369717
>present to force the anxiety out of them, their little minds will find some way to be scared of
Genuinely need to keep anxious slaves like that collared and leashed at all times.
If master isn't arround have smart collars to monitor them, otherwise a head girl watching over them.
And if none of that is possible simply keep them caged till master gets home, additional sedatives are also a option.

>slave should figuratively and literally always look up to who she serves
Psychological/behavioral conditioning instill a healthy level of an inferiority complex in slave women.
Keeps them away from bothering to learn how to think independently or to Question anything men tell them.
Their benevolent overlords know what's best.
And so it's only natural they'll strive to repay master's kindness with service
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>keep anxious slaves like that collared and leashed at all times.
The vast majority of slaves are like this. It's not right to keep them away from their Master for extended periods, just unfortunately it isn't practical a lot of the time. If they can't be made to cope then there are still solutions.

Keeping them in a cage the entire day if Master has to be at work isn't practical, he deserves a clean home and the slave that cleaned it kneeling at the front door when he gets home. Timing how long the chores take on average, and having some smart cage that will sound a alarm for her to climb in and lock itself when its time. Same alarm to let her out and get ready for Master's return, although slaves tend to be full of tears when away from Master for more than a couple hours no matter how regular it is.

>Their benevolent overlords know what's best.
All of these dehumanization rituals are to assist in forcing them to understand that what they think truly doesn't matter, they are bound to Master, and this will last forever.

People who are capable of saying things that can ruin their life tend to be allowed to speak. slaves are required to ask permission to say anything other than simple responses to commands because we know that they will not use their brain responsibly, and the more they attempt to think the more they tie themselves up in knots with the little sentience they have.

Bringing order to a slaves chaotic mind is always a uphill battle but just the day to day dehumanization helps in building that vast gulf between her and people. Like personally the floor is where my slaves belong, and keeping my floors so clean they could eat off of it is a mark of pride. Which is part of why when I approve the daily gruel portion they have cooked themselves I sometimes dump it out on the floor rather than their feeding bowl. Every time that gulf widens it should be met with gratitude that someone cares enough to brainwash such dumb creatures.
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>>11369705

I want to obey, believe me, but it just feels wrong to turn a space focusing in male dominated ideas and worldbuilding to turn into a /soc/ camwhore thread where pussy is currency. That's a result of unrestricted feminism and liberalism and the point of patriarchy is to abolish that.
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>>11369911

I also meant to add, if this were a less restricted space like a community discord, it would be an entirely different matter. Maybe it's time to make a patriarchy server...
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>>11369915
All of this is happening because I still enjoy occasionally posting here despite being a turbofeminist, and one of those incredibly brain broken girls wanted to post her tits and argue with someone clearly better than her that she is too dumb to understand anything and is incapable of disobeying men which is why she thinks I am wrong about why she is inferior and suddenly thinks she gets to disobey posting more pictures of the only part of her that has any value.

It is honestly pretty funny. She is right in that it feels weird to overstep the explicit patriarchy bent to bully slaves about being too dumb to even articulate why they are inferior, but some variety every now and then is still good. I probably wouldn't hang around a patriarchy discord for that reason, since its not really my jam but it's still a bunch of fun to see this thing attempt to wriggle out of the fact it thinks it cannot disobey men while it very clearly is.

You're clearly pretty petite looking at the front end, your ass is probably just as flat but I do like that kind of body type. Since you do your thinking with those things in the absence of a brain is that your justification for why you're too dumb to do as your told? Flat bitch, barely enough brains in those two things to do vital functions, a miracle she doesn't choke on her own drool most days? Or do you have some other ideas using those big words that someone taught you about?
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>>11369866
>smart cage that will sound a alarm for her to climb in and lock itself when its time
>slaves tend to be full of tears when away from Master
Honestly this kind of thing seems cute and endearing is a /d/ sort of way.
Smart collars, cages, etc. all tools to help master to control his women but also to ensure slaves never need to think for themselves.
She's never needed to worry about where her next meal will come from, keeping a roof over her head, etc.
Her entire world is just centered on making master happy (by following his orders).
A happy slave is a empty minded slave.

>gratitude that someone cares enough to brainwash such dumb creatures
Women would internalize patriarchal teaching too.
Their anxiety could be turned into a fear of freedom, they have no idea how to function without men's guidance.
So they not only self police but enforce the patriarchy on other women.

Side question:
Where in society could you see fem-on-fem dom being used by the patriarchy?
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>cute and endearing is a /d/ sort of way.
>A happy slave is a empty minded slave.
Hey that's exactly the kind of paternalism I am all about. It's why its also impossible to be angry at these things, even if I take that tone often when scolding them. They just are not capable of doing anything other than living a life of service, and it is as much a positive for them as it is for their Master that they have no choice in doing so.

>Where in society could you see fem-on-fem dom being used by the patriarchy?
Probably just assisting a Master with their work of training another slave. At absolute most, being ordered to do so with extremely low grade slaves that a person shouldn't bother himself with training. Anything other than that wouldn't really fit into the gender-based slavery justification, and honestly I can see even letting a trusted slave have such a authority to train other slaves on her own be such a taboo that even if you have some sci fi/magic going on to allow extremely low grade and numerous slaves it's still something that is considered a bad idea unless you have no other options.
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>>11369539
Did you at least remember to seek punishment for breaking /d/'s rules?
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>Where in society could you see fem-on-fem dom being used by the patriarchy?
Training, and weaponized peer pressure.

Routine micromanagement and supervision when Master isn't home.
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>>11369932
>one of those incredibly brain broken girls wanted to post her tits and argue with someone clearly better than her that she is too dumb to understand anything
I don't usually post in this kind of threads, but I want to say that I have a blog in bdsmlr and there are so many women like that. Just women who want to be told to shut the fuck and be treated like pieces of meat.
It almost drives you crazy and then you realize the quantity of women with straight up rape fantasies is even higher. Crazy, but very entertaining as a dominant man.
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It's the quantity of it, yeah. I get that's how submission is felt for a lot of people, but just how many women want to have every shred of humanity beaten out of them is always surprising to me. Even if a lot of them probably would break relatively quickly living that way.

Honestly my experience as a dominant man has been that you think you might be depraved but easily 90% of submissive women are way worse than you. Make sure your brainwashed slave creature doesn't successfully con you into encasing her in concrete underneath your house. You cannot retrieve and return her to service the following morning, don't listen to her.
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>>11370037
It's not only the quantity, it's the absolute brutality they want to be demostrated on themselves. You would think these women, who have grown in the most advanced countries in history with full rights and the respect of the men around them may have some other kind of desires, but they don't.
>my experience as a dominant man has been that you think you might be depraved but easily 90% of submissive women are way worse than you.
It's seriously unhinged what these women fantasize about on a daily basis. I usually say to my friends women are thrice as hornier and perverted than even I am, and they just won't believe me.
No I won't slap you harder than I already am because I'm going to cause you a concussion and I don't want a slave dumber than you already are.
No, I won't pretend to be executing you and hang you from the ceiling because I don't want you dead. A dead slave is useless.
No, I won't handcuff to a lamppost outside and leave you there all night. First because it's going to be -9Cº throught all night and second because all the illegal inmigrants you voted to import will find you, rape you and kill you.
It's crazy request after crazy request with these bitches.
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>>11369324
> Waa why won't a random woman I have no relation to post nudes on the internet on command
Don't be a retard, regardless of what people say when horny there is always an implicit exchange. For every nobless there is an oblige. Women may be retarded children but their submissiveness is based on attachment to a singular personality with force of will, not a precarious depersonalized presence or ideology.

Men are ideological, they sacrifice themselves for their families or a cause greater than themselves. Women are not capable of that, everything for them is personal. They submit to a particular person (Man), with the implicit social contract of protection from the dog-eat-dog social darwinism of the larger world. They want to be barefoot and pregnant in a garden. But gardens can't exist without high walls to keep the dogs and weeds out. So the Man has to be the wall. Ideally, walls so high that even the thought of escape is impossible.

Unless you are capable of providing direct protection (which you can't on the internet), it is not realistic to expect submission.

It does not surprise me that you are a turbofeminist, because you seem completely retarded and don't understand how patriarchy actually works.
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Yeah...The consistent brutality slave girls want is always surprising. I have a feeling most men would be surprised just how much a lot of these girlies really do think with what's between their legs. The attachment too, so many submissive women just have a obsessive streak that a lot of them really would rather be disposed of than be rejected by Master. It's why you often have to be a therapist to them, since its tough for even me to understand why I wouldn't dislike a slave if they said identical things about immigrants.

>>11370181
I mean yeah a bit like that. It's just funny seeing a slave post her tits and say it is impossible for her to think and disobey men and then figure out ways to justify why she's doing both of those things. Maybe she's actually got a shred of humanity in her after all.

I don't expect her to actually show me more of her body, but that getting bullied this way will help those handful of braincells work together to figure out that exposing herself to internet strangers isn't going to dehumanize her and make her happy. She needs to become a accessory to real people, slaves shouldn't even be able to read well enough to use a computer.

I also don't have a higher ideological purpose to just being mean to a slave on the internet. That's more general purpose fun, but still. Even if it does serve to widen the gap between her and humanity it's just personally enjoyable for me.
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>>11370345
can you go back to shitting up just one thread instead of two of them
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Nah. You're welcome to fight me about it if you wish.
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>Patriarchy thread
>woman that knows her place posts
>Anon tells her to post nudes in-thread
>she refuses because it's not what the thread is for

Alright. Hear me out. While it's definitely against board rules to post real photos, there is something hot about a girl being told to anyways and feeling like she has to, obediently eating a 3-day ban because her superior ordered it and she has no right to refuse.

(This is not a suggestion or a request. But it's a fun idea.)
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>>11369959
>impossible to be angry at these things, even if I take that tone often when scolding them
Especially with the "born n bred" slaves they're just the cutest thing, even when they occasionally make mistakes.
Just a hint of displeasure from master and the poor things are already hands and knees on the ground ready to beg for forgiveness.
It must be that slave mind set, women don't value themselves at all their whole sense of self worth is build on serving master.
And after any lessons women need a good fucking to help drive it home.

>>11369959
>>11369977
>Routine micromanagement and supervision when Master isn't home.
Mommy-Dom types lording over master's younger women sounds like a fun way to do things.
She might have been his first girl or his fav breeding sow regardless she's entirely devoted to master and the ideals of the patriarchy.
Just love the concept of having an entire cast of "Uncle Tom" type women that are slaves themselves but also devoted to the cause.
Especially the point on women training other women, like someone has to handle all the daughters produce from this sex/mating focused society.
So these Rad-Trad women are the best ones suited for this.

>>11370167
>>11370345
>brutality slave girls want is always surprising
It's the slave(female) mind set, if master isn't there to tell her she's worth something cause she's HIS property and she's USEFUL to him.
Then they start feeling worthless and needing punishment.
You notice this even more when seeing the difference between captured women and the ones born in the patriarchy.
Captives need training/rehabilitation to undo the damage being free has done to them emotionally and psychologically.
With regular slave women they're far better adjusted in their simple and happy lives.
Really the most humane thing to do is enslaving as many women as possible.
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If she actually eats a ban for posting real nudes for 3 days that'd be hardcore. I stick to posting actual hentai with every single post so hard I tend to have a bad habit of recycling the top hits.

She was smart covering up her tattoo but if she's got anything on her ass that'd be less smart to post. Honestly though i'm not kidding, having a slave argue with a superior man that he's wrong about the man part is just such peak domination/slavery. There is for sure a long running comedy series in some slavery fantasy world based around this idea. Pleading up and grovelling at her betters that no Master, you're actually totally wrong and I am incapable of every disagreeing with you or anyone like you, Master. My head is mush which means it knows better that it cannot equal what men such as you don't understand, Master.

I'd still say that actually posting pictures in public is a bad idea and there's a reason why even being able to use a computer at all isn't good for her, but her body is actually nice to look at so whatever. The fact that she's being told she's not a unfuckable goblin is more than a lot slaves hope for anyways.

>>11370447
Yeah exactly like this. You've got all the paternalism right there.
>hands and knees on the ground ready to beg for forgiveness
The default state of a slave. They are supposed to be the accessory of a real person, head empty, only Master, they are horny and talk like that all the time but no they actually rarely think of anything other than who they serve.

>she's worth something cause she's HIS property and she's USEFUL to him
Any slave whose figured out how she thinks to this degree should get some sort of high grade put onto her profile. Like, "will likely brainwash slaves left alone with her further". Any further programming can be done with Master's assistance.
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Anyone know if the anon that wrote these is still arround?
https://www.literotica.com/authors/1mp3rialPatri4rch/works/stories

Think some of them were taken down, does anyone have a Catbox.moe or archived stories?
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>>11370482
Ive lurked here a lot more recently than 2023 and Ive seen this kind of worldbuilding before. I'm sure they're somewhere nearby, the word spartiae is a mild stroke of genius for a inherently feminine word for warriors honestly, even if latin sounding cool is a long standing tradition.

I knew there must have been pages upon pages of this fiction, sad to see that lite erotica page clearly got krumped by how loads of sites will take this down as being basically SA material in more modern times. Had to go immediately into looking at the elves, them being somehow even hornier and dumber than slaves usually are to the point of "they would just wallow in being horny and touching themselves forever and amount to nothing if not enslaved" being very literal for them. Kind of imagine a lot of girls in this thread identifying with the orchidae story I read too, when your yandere sister bites you for not showing proper respect and worship it can clearly get a lot worse.

In tracking down more of that stuff you'd have to work against the fact that google sucks now but just trying to search for both "Imperial Patriarch" and the weird leetspeak misspelling of it when that's taken is the best bet. Doing the quotes around that and then searching at specifically a single site is a good one, but its been a while since Ive had a internet white whale.
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>>11370450
>how she thinks to this degree should get some sort of high grade
That's the ideal, every slave must be taught how to think like this.
Remember the majority of women in the patriarchy are born into it not captured fresh from outside.
It leads to things like women taking pride in whoring, breeding or being master's personal toy.
Whatever master deicide she'll be becomes the centerpiece of her life, there's no thought of having a empty purposeless life.
Existential dread isn't a thing when the collar provides you with a happy and pleasurable life...

>They are supposed to be the accessory of a real person
There's Trophy wives, show girls, etc. women who are kept arround not only for sex but as arm candy for their master.
It's truly one of the most privileged lives a slave can live, see >>11369141 and >>11369278
Every aspect of her life will be monitored, master pours his attention on you to sculpt you into his idea of perfection.
It's Daddy-dom taken to an extrime, it's the fairytale ending that women are told about.

>likely brainwash slaves left alone with her further
Besides slave training devoted women could help capture women too.
Women's half way house as a front for human trafficking and other Good Samaritan traps.
Just so many new methods of enslavement open when you have a right hand woman!
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>Existential dread isn't a thing when the collar provides you with a happy and pleasurable life...
>Every aspect of her life will be monitored, master pours his attention on you to sculpt you into his idea of perfection.
This will always be the ideal slavery relationship for me. Pouring all of my love and attention into a girl, shaping her body and mind. She spends her entire life at my side, rarely if ever being seen without me, as she is quite literally a extension of my life.

For sure a fairytale ending, even if I don't think its right to have any slave live solely as arm candy. Doing all this domestic toil for Master is how you earn your place as his devoted shadow, and strengthens how your soul is chained to his. Having some robot or lowly slave beneath you do all that service would give the girl wrong ideas about her place in the world.
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>>11370509
I´m still here, I stopped posting in Literotica when my stories started to get automatically flagged, almost everything I have written is on the Patriarchy threads, Desuarchive may help you there.
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>>11370904
>stopped posting in Literotica when my stories started to get automatically flagged
I meant the stories specifically taken down from Literotica, was wondering if you had them saved and or uploading them to cat box.
Thought those ones weren't on Desuarchive.

Thanks in advance if you have those ones saved!
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I didn´t think of saving them, I thought people had gotten fed up with them. But, if you know the names, I can write them again?
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>>11370686
>Pouring all of my love and attention into a girl
>she is quite literally a extension of my life.
In a paternalistic society this would be wide spread too.
Men of the middle class will visit slaves schools dedicated to this or trade daughters at slave markets.
Rich and powerful take it a step further, they have women bred to order for this purpose.
Think the arranged marriages of royal Europe but turned up to something like entire harems being prepared for a male heir.

>lowly slave beneath
>give the girl wrong ideas about her place in the world.
Actually a fan of allowing higher status women to have their own maid servants.
Earlier in the thread there's talk of honorifics and other forms of female submission in public.
So even if's she's a trophy slave having her show proper etiquette towards men is still part of the expectations of being a perfect slave.
Point being even the highest ranked women are still beneath men.
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>>11370969
Damn didn't remember what they are, just know there used to be more then the 7 there are now.
And there was some talk a while back about stories being removed.
If the setting is still being worked on maybe post Catbox links?
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>>11371101
>In a paternalistic society this would be wide spread too.
In a Degradationist one, she would also be an extension of your will but as a tool.
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>Golden Apple Harvest Institute
>Designed by Raincoat Corp to teach the most elite daughters of Elf Princesses
>It is common knowledge that no matter how smart an Elf might appear, she is perpetually edgebrained and focused on sexual gratification from the very first moment her ears are pulled.
>Even though their debauchery has permitted them to get well entrenched on Patriarchal society, this institute was first established to improve their reputation.
>Focusing on Humanities and the Arts, they attempt to bring Elf Princesses back to their mythic origins, as Graceful, Pure and Wise figures.
>To increase the value of their students, their Idol group is an entire Orchestra, earning royalty level sums of money on Concerts and Lottery Summer Fair Tickets every year.
>"Golden Schoolgirls" can do no wrong, appear polite and well mannered in and out of the Institute´s walls, abhor the gang behaviour of other schools, and even fund charities with the sale of baked goods.
>However, behind the walls of the Institute, their higher purpose has fallen to the wayside.
>Even the brightest minds, and loftiest pedigrees among the long eared are not spared from their ravenous Lust.
>With their Purity out of their reach by a mandatory belt, and unable to Orgasm due to their spinal trackers, they had to get creative to find any release.
>On a recent incident, packs of students stole uniforms from another academy, picked a fight with their stolen identities rivals, and fled, leading their victims to where the real students were, creating an open air riot.
>On another incident, they created fake feminist profiles, and went fishing for advocates among the other schools, to snitch on to them on the authority.
>Armed with money, and clean reputations, there is no limit to their activities, as long as the heat does not reach the Institute.
>In a way, this is also training for when they are eventually tasked with keeping human women down and at each other´s throats for the benefit of Men.
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>>11371877
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>>11371720
>she would also be an extension of your will but as a tool.
Wondering if this sort of thing would be a caste system within Degradationist societies.
Women being separated with special tattoos, uniforms/collar and strict breeding.
They're witness to and often take part in the abuse of other women knowing fully they're never be on the receiving end, thus they can be very sadistic.

Or would you have it as a system of women working their way up to being master's pet?
Have them turning on one another.
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>>11371877
>brightest minds, and loftiest pedigrees
>not spared from their ravenous Lust
Any chance there's slave programs that play into this(elves for the brothel, free use, etc.)
Maybe it comes naturally and they don't need additional training?

>snitch on to them on the authority
>eventually tasked with keeping human women
So what would punishment/reform be like for women caught breaking the rules?

How does it vary for low level crimes to severe crimes like sedition?

And do elves get rewards for every bitch they turn in?
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>>11371982
>Women being separated with special tattoos, uniforms/collar and strict breeding.
I love that A Song of Ice and Fire exemplifies this with the slaves from Essos. They have their faces branded with the role they have (wheels for workers, tears for whores, flies for those that clean dung) so that even if the slave escapes, rises in rank or is freed, they will never be able to erase the mark that they were a slave and what they were forced to endure.
https://youtu.be/RQwOMBUm2rU
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>>11372059
My bad, Volantis
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>>11372015
Elves have two very big erogenous organs exposed to the outside world at all times, and even a breeze can trigger them once they are sensitive, so they are constantly in heat.
The most common, dumb rabble that are Elves drop out and naturally become cumdumps and free use women once pleasure fries their brains, but the smarter they become, the more degenerate their kinks become, until reaching marriage as a virgin, becoming a traditional wife to a master, being ignored for his concubines, and never getting off is the filthiest, most refined kink that can stimulate them.
For some, seeing other Women fall is the reward they crave while they are still locked and waiting to be bought by a Master.
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"P-please Mr. Of-fficer, I can't breathe!"
>Is the ideal form of domination hardcore/softcore or something in-between?
I'm a guroCHAD so to me domination and hardcore stuff go hand in hand. Mahou shoujo must be brutally taught obedience since birth sso their emotions grow more powerful and thus their awakening into magical girls gives them increased power.
Also the idea that she could easily crush my head with her bare hand but doesn't out of respect and fear makes me rock hard.
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>>11372059
>faces branded with the role they have
Love this sort of concept, just looking at a woman lets you know she's a slave.
It's immediate humiliation without words, something similar should exist for in more modern settings.

Barcode tattoos, women RFID chipped like IRL dogs and optional pubic tattoos to master's tastes.
Smart phones and the "internet of things" mean's everything about a woman is accessible leaving them with 0 privacy.
Sexual history, whore's hourly rate, Breeding records, etc. these intimate details made known to everyone.

Also this sort of exhibitionism could be used in training captured women.
Step 1 of learning to be a slave is knowing you live to serve!

>>11372085
>marriage as a virgin
>being ignored for his concubines
Being cuckqueaned is one thing, but some wives take it a step further.
They'll accompany hubby to brothels to pick out sluts, or go shopping for sex pets and groom them while master's at work.

>Elves drop out and naturally become cumdumps and free use women
Wish the sort of thing was applied to slave women in general.
Education isn't banned or restricted for women but they're just set up to fail.
Just reinforces sexist standards on where women belong, most of them being slut brained don't care about learning anyways
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>What would it look like when a woman commits a crime in the patriarchy?
Thing to remember is that women are property, with a legal status similar to pets/legal wards.
If a woman commits a low level non-violent crimes responsibility is put on her master, mainly his inability to train her.
Punishment of these women will be handled privately by her master, while her owner will be fined.
Though paternalistic laws & culture aims for reform and not wantonly abusing/killing women.

Violent crime and serous crimes like feminism(sedition) are treated more harshly.
Can result in jail time for her master if he put her up to it, or charges of negligence(like irl dog mauling cases).
For the bitch in question she'll be taken away from her master to be reconditioned
Harsh training is used to put her back in line and hopefully rehome her with a better master.
If rehoming isn't an option Brain reconditioning can be used directly fucking with her mind, pic related.
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>No I won't slap you harder than I already am because I'm going to cause you a concussion and I don't want a slave dumber than you already are.
>No, I won't pretend to be executing you and hang you from the ceiling because I don't want you dead. A dead slave is useless.
>No, I won't handcuff to a lamppost outside and leave you there all night. First because it's going to be -9Cº throught all night and second because all the illegal inmigrants you voted to import will find you, rape you and kill you.
Would be hot if there were clones that a black box chip quicksaving slave minds could let girls be destroyed as much as they clearly want and reform in a new body. Girls should be able to bear the full emotion of their Patriarchs without all these annoying holdups of 'the real world'. Girls SHOULD be allowed to experience sex as young little children, they SHOULD be able to be destroyed over and over, they SHOULD be the playthings of their daddies and brothers and uncles and neighbors and family dogs, they SHOULD get to live lifes birthing and breeding and being beaten and broken and reborn over and over. Girls should get to experience everything possible their bodies could endure, learning to be product and purpose in every sense, feed every passion, and every person with their body.

The limitations of flesh don't give room to the Icarusian fantasies of girls. Technology should be advanced to help girls feel wonderfully terrible things their whole lives as reward for service to their betters.
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>clones that a black box chip quicksaving slave mind
>help girls feel wonderfully terrible things their whole lives as reward for service to their betters
Would this be a standard implant or a privilege for women?

First case it's that "dystopian" point Every woman can be used like toys, as according to master's wishes.
The latter has fun part of making it a reward to be earned, bitch needs to please master enough he decides make her semi-immortal
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While more tame/paternalistic anons play this tech off as just a way to protect their slaves.
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>Would this be a standard implant or a privilege for women?
Of course it's a privilege. Every girl knows she is an expendable inferior bag of flesh and any love shown to them is a privilege. Being allowed to return and be destroyed over and over is a special gift that a kindly Master only gives his most precious little girls. Most girls don't deserve the luxury of being allowed to return, only those who have SO devoted themselves to their Masters, as to gain his affection, should deserve the blessing. Most girls only deserve to be destroyed once, and they too should be grateful to die before they wither into age and ugliness like the unlucky girls before. No girl wants to die old and ugly, let alone to someone other than the ones they love or at least are being loved upon. The best minds get cooked over and over, addicted to dipping beyond the veil through wonderful sensations, pulling back into their Master's arms afterwards to entice another plunge.

Good girls yearn to be broken again and again, loving beyond the adorable weakness of their flesh. Hopefully the future Patriarchy can build wonderful technologies to give them Heaven with their Lords.
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>>11376241
In case the autist is here...
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>>11376241
>>11376245
>patriarchy
>posts a futa
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>Most girls only deserve to be destroyed once
>before they wither into age and ugliness
Leaning into the trope here, For slave women it's something similar to Logan's Run.
They have a "Use by date" on their bodies usually by the age 30-35(expiry date up to owner preferences), they spend their short lives as blissed out toys.
Being simple minded creatures they're seen more like pets then people, just a "sad fact of life" women need to be used up before they wither.

>The best minds get cooked over and over
>Good girls yearn to be broken again and again, loving beyond the adorable weakness of their flesh
Optional enhancement of these "black box" Brain chips could be boosting a woman's intelligence.
They're beyond the barely sentient women that only get one go, instead they're blessed with the mindfulness to enjoy being an immortal toy.
Key point is this is Optional intellect.

>wonderful technologies to give them Heaven with their Lords
Men of course have ready access to spare bodies and age reversal.
With external ageing also available for those interested in DILF or GILF play.
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>>11376536
See, while it's true that women will have a limited window of their lives to be a baby factory and/or cum dumpster, but unless you really crank up the sci-fi and say some wild shit like "they're vat-grown clones" or "they're raised in a hyperbaric time chamber" you have a lot of human life expectancy unaccounted for. As the guy who cooked up the boarding school complexes and brings them up over and over, I do it because it solves the "too young" and the "too old" problems by keeping them preoccupied with one another. The Logan's Run option always just seemed wasteful, and besides there will be masters with particular tastes; could be an old guy who likes keeping the age gap small, could be some younger guy who just wants a GILF or two on deck.

Besides, if you're going out on a limb to freely toy with the cycles of human bodily development, you're almost certainly at the sci-fi tech level you can do telomere repair and stave off aging. Maybe it's not as flashy as implanting instructions into someone's skull with brain chip uploads or Ludovico technique, but it's a much more reliable way to get a 20-year-old body with 30 years of dick skills.
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>>11369980
>bdsmlr
did they finally reopen registration or do you still need an invite?
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>wild shit like "they're vat-grown clones" or "they're raised in a hyperbaric time chamber"
That kind of sci-fi fits well with the idea of women as expendable toys instead of being simply second class.
Time chambers or growth vats get women ready for use, natural pregnancy being optional means of creating new slaves mainly for preg fetishests.
Women as products might be more commonly conceived in a test tube and grown in vats to adulthood.
Cloning provides spare bodies when a woman with a black box implant has her current body "used up" by master, see >>11376241

>masters with particular tastes
>younger guy who just wants a GILF or two
Was implying it'd be the other way, Masters might go through slaves to the point they're much older then a fresh slave in her 20s.
Or his favorites are youthful via cloned bodies on "death" with black box implants and perhaps age reversal if master's not into hardcore.
Men of course always have access to age reversal methods/immortality, just up to what master is into.

Think a Degradationist society allowed to indulge their depravity >>11370037 though use of technology
A picture of the future, where a slave is choke fucked again and again for eternity.
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>>11376536
Logan's Run is a good framework. I prefer a mythic premise to the reasoning behind how girls are now perpetually lesser to Men. That it's been so long and we're so separated from our current paradigm of equity and fairness that we've evolved into a wholly new culture of Strong being served by the weak, which a Patriarchy is naturally a part of. The power structure of Men is between Men, girls never and will never be a part of their power struggles, only the material that Men use in their Strength.

Thousands of years ago, girls were the chain of binding to the Earth. They vicegripped the cycle of life and death by being the bearers of newer generations, holding Men to the flesh of the Earth. Then from circumstances long since made legend, The King came. He was able to discern the true nature of girls and Men. Men sought to rise and girls sought to be low, and so The King made this world as it is. Men were grown on their own terms, curating their successors with erogenous machines and the parts of themselves they chose, and girls became wholly and utterly Inferior. Men may always take girls, as they are the people's property, and their bodies were freely exchangable to any and all Men. In a cosmic sense, this gave Men and girls the liberty to shed their form and become light upon the crystal ships that sought out new worlds to colonize, but in the more guttral it was a change of the experience of flesh. Immortality cemented the end of generational transformation, replaced with Patriarchs, Un-aging Kings that ruled their respective fiefdoms in a Brotherhood of 500 Million. They transmuted parts, negated aging to any form they didn't choose and sought centuries-long personal endeavors instead of the grind for labor and flesh. They grew from Boys when finished in their service to their Father, and gained their own Kingdoms.
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In turn, girls were lowered. They were souls bound to their Creator Kings, be it their Makers or their Takers, as any King could have any girl he desired anytime. The forms that girls take in Patriarchy are a Trinity of Authority, Material Model and Maiden. Maidens hold authority over Models and Material, Models hold situational authority over Materials, and all bow in orgasmic delight to Man. Material as the lowest class are girls as product. Their flesh is grown only for the base elements, as foodstuff, art supplies from skin, or as fascimiles of beasts to hunt and own and use. They rarely hold intelligent thought, most Kings prefering these forms to be mentally stunted and docile, but can be given pre-King intelligence for all it does their fates. Models are made to hold to purpose in this world, as displays, tools, and servicing creatures. In the most basic this is the fate of girls bound to walls for free sex, or made into durable punching bags, but also literal models, showing off girlskin fashion and performing in long-form art, such as a Stairway to Heaven made of Models walking eternally on the guts of Materials, stomping and slicing open their tummies with bladed high-heels as the Material steps are pushed down the spiral to be ground up and rebuilt into new girls equally exposed in the top. The models look up and raise their arms in praise of the murals of Cock and Men above them, praising their Gods as their tireless bodies march upon girl after girl, in a neverending display of Domination over the mind and flesh of girls. This is only one example of Models and Materials from one King’s mind, the importance is to understand the framework that so expends and reforms girls with macabre disregard for erotic purpose.
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The final rung is Maiden, and these are girls that can achieve SOME form of bodily autonomy if the circumstances permit. They’re girls born naturally of the seed of Kings, and raised in a trial life of 40 years. They are raised by their Kings from babes into young lovers alongside their mothers, learn to service and please Men in the old ways, and partake in the Holy violence upon their gender that Patriarchs revel in. It’s a tradition of a girl on her tenth birthday to kill her mother, whether or not said mother has in turn earned her own revival, so as to sever any maternal order to their state, but also help developing Maidens experience the erogenous sensations coded into their flesh at the sight of slain girls. Every well-trained Maiden revels in the destruction of girls, themselves or otherwise, and regularly help their sisters along the hellish road or offer themselves. The majority of Maidens end up dead first by their mid to late teens, either in snuffing sex or from their own daughter’s hands, and the Patriarchs then decide whether to continue their trials. If he does, the developing Maiden still has to age to her final state. Traditionally this collective First Life (with any snuff breaks inbetween) establishes whether said personality of Maiden is worthy to Renew in new bodies for longer, after their Maturation Ceremony, where hundred of big juicy mommy milfs of the same age are gathered in public and cooked and eaten. Many Maidens are left to die then, but a few are reborn, now able to transmute to any age they had experienced in endless clones for any taste. Only girls who have reached Maturation are given this further blessing, as Maidens in Training revive only to the age they were snuffed at. Having reached Maturity, further privileges such as living space and financial privileges can be offered to some Maidens, who if granted by their Patriarch, can live on their own and pursue non-sexual endeavors such as art and music.
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The mindset of girls is not of the self-entitled flesh of today though, these girls LOVE their lowered state and don’t seek to leave it. They love their Kings, and they love their meaning in service with their fleeting bodies. They hold no qualms of killing each other or being killed, as it is Heaven for them. Lowered and bowing, girls are wet in their new state and adore their Kings religiously. Those girls who wouldn’t rarely last long anyway, and even those who age to escape Kings are a blip in life to them, and hardly a concern across the vastless expanse of Mankind’s Kingdoms. In all things, and forever, girls are nothing before their Men, they never want for anything more than that soft, fleshy nothing. The girls are good.
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>"Eternal Pillar" Shrines
>A competitor to the "Allfather" Church, which quickly capitalized on nuns and holy women iconography and tons of Elves, the Shrine leaders used Miko uniforms and rituals.
>The shrines accept all of the surplus girls that are too dumb or not pretty enough to be of any other use, and teach them to pray and perform.
>Almost always too poor to afford belts, the Mikos are instead treated with basic spinal implants, that strip the ability to orgasm from them, and structure their lives on almost never being able to touch themselves to keep pure.
>To collect alms, they restrain their sisters to trees, or lampposts, with a begging dish, and leave them to the mercy of the elements, until it is time to collect.
>This task, the one of a begging Miko, is the easiest to perform.
>Upon their shrine franchises, they contort their own female bodies with Shibari in infinite ways, to "purge female sin", "sell amulets and charms", and "gain more donations".
>The more restrictive and humiliating the pose a Miko can take, the more holy she becomes to the Shrine, and the most sin she can purify from all the Females that came before her.
>It is customary that, if a female ever commits a crime so heinous that even her Master cannot tolerate her any longer, she may end up as a living display upon the Shrine, or that her young virgin daughters may be offered instead, if she had paid with her life.
>As long as girls continue to be restrained and lashed upon the pillars and offerings of the Shrine, and shrieks of frustration and exertion can be heard, it is said, Patriarchy will remain.
>They sell more than Amulets and Charms on their festivals, as the Shrine auctions their best trained Priestesses, those treasures picked up from the mud, and polished to a shine, young, pure, disciplined, and capable to restrain and punish an unruly female in seconds.
>Their dogma, very similar to the "Allfather" church, treats Masters as representations of gods, their word absolute.
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>>11376923
>young lovers alongside their mothers
>kill her mother, whether or not said mother has in turn earned her own revival
IMO being allowed to breed/become a mother should be a privilege Maidens have to earn, even after they're deemed worthy of a block box implant.
Not every fuck pet that master decided to keep arround should be given this sacred duty.
Giving master daughter-wives, providing male heirs with sister wives and even having male heirs isn't something every maiden is entrusted with!

>experienced in endless clones for any taste
Personally a huge fan of Oyakodon incest, Maiden mothers knows entire reason she's being bred is to give master daughter wives.
Cloning and rebirth used to keep these women at their sexual peak despite chronologically being few decades - hundreds of years old
Might even go so far as to having multiple generations of father-daughter incest yet due to Cloning/rebirth the great-great-etc. grand mother is still arround.
Yet none of them are physically older their 20s!

>>11376922
>Maidens hold authority over Models and Material
Hoping this means that Maidens have their sadistic urges directed at these lower ranks.
Would be a pain to have an artist, musician or physically sculpted fuck toy murdered.
Even with a black box, starting with a cloned body is a pain.
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>>11377076
>shrine franchises, they contort their own female bodies with Shibari in infinite ways
>Amulets and Charms on their festivals, as the Shrine auctions their best trained Priestesses
Also thinking they could set up private chappals as something the rich use to display slaves and their piety.
Sometimes found in homes or private businesses.
Smaller option is just the shines themselves without the entire temple complex.
Set up in regular homes, public spaces, etc. think the small alters you see arround Japan.
So the BDSM style humiliation of women is ever present in society!
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>>11377110
>IMO being allowed to breed/become a mother should be a privilege Maidens have to earn, even after they're deemed worthy of a block box implant.
I disagree. No aspect of girls should allow them to hold value over another. Giving birth is nothing special, everything gives birth, it's what is born that matters. We don't celebrate the mother on a birthday.

Being alive and used by a King is the greatest privilege a girl should ever aspire to, whether to be born, give birth or die. Her existence is for her King, and her behavior defines her persistence. She is inherently expendable, and that should make her touch herself in joy. Every moment alive with a King in her eyes is a moment worth in gold to a girl, to live a moment pleasing such a wonderful being, in any function her life needs. The devotion should be rapturous, and not reciprocated. For as valued in his eyes she is, he is always aware that a girl can be discarded for anything, and her persistence is for HIS fancy.

Rewards are to touch and sleep with the Men of their lives, to walk and talk with him beyond Sexual Service, to smell him and taste him. Any moment in a King's presence is Heaven to a girl, even if it might be her last. Youth and beauty are naturally expendable, so spending time with a girl means her character is worth attendance.
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Just want to say that this is some fantastic prose describing the obsessive form of devoted slavery. Love girls like that, don't even care if they might be trying to kill me at 1 AM while I try to figure out if aurora borealis is happening or not.

You should be overwhelmed with emotion should Master even bother to look at you, much less speak to you. You are worth nothing, but to you slavery to Him makes Him the most valuable thing in the universe.
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>>11377364
They're only crazy for trying to be a better sort of girl in a lesser sort of world. Girls just aren't build for this equitable Robespierre snobbery, they want to be as low as society can afford them. Rome understood this, we should have used technology to give them lives of true inferiority.

There's redpills on liberalism I don't really want to get into for risk of a political shitpost, but we're not making the best of all possible worlds and it bothers me that beautifully minded girls are going insane from trying to be that in this place.
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Call me an armchair Freudian but I definitely think a lot of fetish comes from taboo and repression. Women in the here and now schlick themselves stupid to Handmaiden's Tale specifically BECAUSE it runs opposite to everything they've been told about being independent and empowered and girlboss and shit. If they actually lived that degradation and subjugation day in and day out the illicit thrill would be gone and it'd just be a pain; only a handful of true die-hard girl gooners would mentally undergo a total realignment and sign up for that life 24-7. (Hello to our resident Reformed Feminist!)

On the other hand, if you offer them a life as a pampered mistress/trophy wife and promise them Daddy will take care of their every material want and need so long as they look cute and are down-to-fuck on demand, you could probably spell out the arrangement on Craigslist and have a stack of applications by the end of the week. Maybe by the time you're doing 40K variants and sci-fi body horror you can reach the state of mind where they innately (mentally, physically, etc.) accept total submission, but you need a road from here to there.

I mean also I personally don't have a thing for goods made of human skin and entrails but this is /d/ so I gotta just roll with it I guess. Y'all motherfuckers like (some/most) Rim/RSI Corp right?
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>>11377357
>No aspect of girls should allow them to hold value over another
>valued in his eyes she is... girl can be discarded for anything
To each master his own but I can't imagine simply discarding slave women you bred, raised and trained myself.
They're not faceless pieces of meat like the Models/Materials who are mass produced expendable assets.
Daughter-wives are women you've hand crafted yourself with the assistance of their mothers.
I might just be too sentimental, but Black box/Cloning something I want to use to keep these women preserved at their physical peak.
Obedient mothers and daughters serving Daddy for eternity.

>>11377389
>Daddy will take care of them
>look cute and are down-to-fuck on demand
Taking this to the natural next step, marrying off your daughters is the highest form of cuckoldry.
Imagine putting decades of investment into them only so they can please other men, better to keep them for yourself.
Only exceptions should be specific commissions for arranged marriages or sister-wives for your sons.
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>>11377959
>To each master his own but I can't imagine simply discarding slave women you bred, raised and trained myself.
I would only if they truly ended up being a disappointment. But probably would give her some other use fitting for her lowered station.
Discarding slavegirls is wasteful
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A lot of these scenarios focus on finance capital and the tertiary sector in general. What about the primary and secondary sectors?
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>>11377908
Unf, chubby pony slave. With all that running her upkeep would get pricey if I planned to keep her like that. Or preferably even fatter.
Eh, small price to pay anyway. I'd have the meatiest pony in town, even if she's a bit slow.
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Magical girls somehow feel like the perfect slave
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>>11378360
>would give her some other use fitting for her lowered station
For something like that you could have maids and other personal servants be "failed" daughters(and other slaves).
Didn't make it in the harem but still kept arround and useful for master.
Class dynamics could offer a 3rd path, these women sold off to the middle class, here their lowered status still puts them above others as a trophy bitch.

>>11378396
>What about the primary and secondary sectors?
Concept of Class/caste system was brought up before, something like >>11376922
All female sub-race of women designed with lower intelligence, stronger bodies but still fuckable in their own cute way.
Resource extraction and processing is aided by machinery and technology.
Tasks that required the human touch are staffed by these women with their male master as overseers.

>>11378550
>Magical girls
There's always the trope of their magic being powered by strong emotions.
Could easily pervert that by turning them into devoted and loving slaves, gaining power by being daddy's pets.
Sadomasochism could be an option too, though not my personal pick.
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>>11378558
>something like >>11376922
Damn, that's depraved.
I was thinking more along the lines of either primary and secondary sector work being more respected due to being male-dominated sectors, or women working in those sectors getting PPE (such as helmets, goggles, masks, steel toe boots, etc.) where necessary, but otherwise being naked, like in some porn.
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>>11378574
Also machinery and technology are used in real life, but lots of workers are still needed.
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>>11378574
>Damn, that's depraved.
Wanted to focus on the concept of a labor caste of slave woman, not the whole harvest & slaughter of women as literally raw materials.
They're artificially created for this kind of work and are female only sub race, maybe calling them proles?
Treating them as a mix of working animal (IE sled dogs, feild Ox, etc) and 2nd class personhood.

>more respected due to being male-dominated sectors
>women working in those sectors getting PPE
Idea is that males are the minority of the population, thus they oversee slave women working these sectors.
PPE is used so that women can safely and more importantly efficiently complete their work.
Physical and genetic modification to their minds installs a need to obey men, they're incapable of rebelling.
Best analogy is like dogs, their minds are wired to please their owners same with these types of women
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>To each master his own but I can't imagine simply discarding slave women you bred, raised and trained myself.
Who said anything about discarding? I want to kill and revive my maidens over and over again, and reward them with youth once they've served their body's forty years of naturally aged fuckmeatery. I want to destroy every girl I can, but I still want to keep a few I really care about around. Well marinated murdermommies that love getting fucked as getting fucked up to earn the privilege to be little baby meatgirls again and go around with their Papas again. That's the privilege maidens should seek, to keep playing the games, giving birth is just part of the lifestyle.
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>>11378647
Oh duh I said discarded. Sorry, horny doesn’t always proofread. I mean I always can discard her for good at any time, but it’s the curated snuffing of multiple times a day to pop into another equally aged expectant fuckmeat body that is the joy. Destroying a willing girl over and over.
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>served their body's forty years of naturally aged fuckmeatery
>privilege to be little baby meatgirls again
I see, then that's more fitting for maidens their reward for being good fuckmeat is getting a fresh body to inhabit.
On that note, for women with such well used & aged bodies their snuffing is made into a special occasion.
Celebratory orgy with a feast, set arround a hangman's noose on a drop platform.
Festivities end with the maiden being hung and body hopping into a freshly cloned body in it's sexual prime.

>want to keep a few I really care about around
>privilege maidens should seek, to keep playing the games, giving birth is just part of the lifestyle
A point of personal preference, Quality over quantity.
I wouldn't breed my maidens if I didn't intend to keep their daughters arround.
Each slave girl would be carefully crafted to be worthy of receiving a black box implant.

>>11378780
>curated snuffing
>pop into another equally aged expectant fuckmeat body
here's a thought: being effectively being immoral could change perception of "death" entirely.
Carefully Snuffing maidens turns into a extreme form of Degradation play.
Or it's a joyous event, an aged woman getting a new younger body.
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>Carefully Snuffing maidens turns into a extreme form of Degradation play
That is the goal, eroticizing snuff into a fun activity for lovers. The limitations of sex are the fragility of the female body, if you didn’t need to consider that you could go as far as you wanted and then some and have girls love you for it since >>11370167 we know girls are already potentially curatable for this stuff. Now you can do anything and everything to girls over and over and over. Imagine how good it would feel knowing you never had to hold back with a girl and you could really do anything you wanted.
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Urge to rape slaves increasing
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>>11378636
Oh. That makes more sense.
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I guess I should have explained the point of all the snuffing is general cultural zeitgeist as a means of Patriarchy, by Kritarchy. It establishes Men as the absolute gender of control and by doing so exercises that control over the right of girls to live or exist or die or ANYTHING on Men and it is expressed through this violent destructive masculine emotional energy by destroying the feminine partner in lust.

It's to break from the trappings of traditional gender dynamics that provided any fraction of power (by the gaze of this patriarch, logically there's some power structures involving girls in the Bloody Patriarchy as in any dynamic of Master and slave.

It's a manner of spiritual adherence to meditate on the many ways to instill the spirit of Inferior on girls, by refusing to use words containing Men to describe them, using lowercase in reports about them and in writing their names. Secondary language processes to dumb their tangible words could also be a long-form project to disconnect girls from the stage of Men. Regular violent destruction and revival is just one element of lowering the girl.

Keeping material and models on regular supply for traditional one-off destruction is a cultural necessity of the society. Obviously they don't NEED to make things out of girls, or use them in place of regular objects like toilets or punching bags; WE don't NEED women to be equal to men, but we promote it, because it is what our faiths and society leads to believe is just. Their faith is girls are meat.
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>The limitations of sex are the fragility of the female body
>Now you can do anything and everything to girls over and over and over
A masochist gets to enjoy pain and aftercare to the fullest.
While women with more tame fetishes get an eternity of being blissed out, never having to worry about aging.
Just love the whole idea that for maidens this is the entire reason they exist.
Fate has blessed them, their lives are toys of pleasure both their own and master's.

>>11379319
>violent destruction and revival is just one element of lowering the girl.
>Their faith is girls are meat.
Always like the idea that this is the "default" view that men have of women and that women have of themselves.
A woman without a master is worthless, it's what master decides to do with her that gives her value.
It's like the masochist version of original sin or something

>>11379159
>rape slaves increasing
That implies slave women have the right to consent, which they don't.
Legally it's a form of property crime and besides it's well known that women enjoy being overpowered during sex anyways.
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I have no idea if this counts as a patriarchy, but iv'e had this idea for an alt. society with four main rules

1. whenever a woman does what her man orders or requests, she feels an addictive pleasure
2. if a woman gets a man off in any direct way, she also gets the same feeling.
3. It's somehow better if either of the above actions has the trappings of her man dominating her
4. except for, of course, the rules above, a woman is omnipotent
5. if a man is found cheating on his wife, he loses all protections above, unless she wipes the event from history.

not sure if this counts, but i'll post it here
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I wish I had more art that fit, but I've always loved the idea that there are types of ponygirls. There's the show horse types designed to look pretty and be available to pull carriages through the park or at formal ceremonies, still physically strong, but bred for their looks first and foremost.
Then there's racing ponygirls who strike a middle ground where their appearance isn't their selling point, but they still tend to be in impeccable shape and therefor conventionally quite pretty, many transition into a role as a show horse after retirement.
The 3rd type is draft(or draught for the bongs) horse girls. Physically larger, bordering on strongfat, these girls are used for labor in regions that are less industrialized or where tradition is important. Many artisan farms advertise that they use slavegirl labor in place of automation as a way of seeming more natural(and also cuz many men like the idea that a slave suffered to make a product)
These ponygirls are intended to have tons of endurance and strength as opposed to speed, elegance or agility like the other types.
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>>11377389
I know it's been a few days, but you got the source for that image? Saucenao, iqdb, and tineye are all giving nothing
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>>11366022
I've been thinking a lot about what the ultimate patriarchy would look like, and I can only come to one conclusion - it needs postnatal sex determination, like clownfish or marine worms. Self-aware beings will not accept a totally inflexible hierarchy if it's determined by accident of birth, so it needs to be meritocratic. This would only happen to humans with significant genetic engineering, so it needs to take place in a trans-human setting.
>What's the legal status of women(slaves, pets, 2nd class, etc)?
Everyone would begin with the same legal status and the same sex chromosomes at birth. Children would be neither male, nor female, but would probably resembles girls slightly more than boys since that is the "default" setting for mammalian prenatal development. Each year they would take a full battery of tests (verbal, visuo-spatial, athletic, mathematical, etc) to determine their individual potential. Secret recordings could also test their loyalty to the regime, if that becomes a problem.
Upon reaching legal adulthood, the top performers (~5%) would be rewarded with a secret gene therapy that turns them into males and triggers puberty, while mediocre performers (~45%) become females. Sub-average students (~50%) would be left to develop without puberty, becoming a sexless servant class. After this, legal status is fixed - a man can never be subordinate to a woman, and a woman can never be subordinate to a sexless one. This applies to both private and public sectors.
You can't complain that it's unfair, because the whole thing is based on individual merit. Those who would still complain prove their lack of merit, so they are caught early and demoted to make sure no one takes them seriously. The existence of a servant caste takes the drudgery out of women's work, so it's really easy to just lie back and accept the patriarchy.
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>>11380734
>Where's the motivation for the Patriarchy in your setting(Malice, Paternalism, etc)?
Meritocracy and selective breeding. We know that being male is better, and even feminists will admit that being male is a "privilege", so why not give that privilege to the best people?
>Is the ideal form of domination hardcore/softcore or something in-between?
Mainly indifference. Since there are around 9 women to every man, they have to compete for attention. Then again, with half the population being non-breeders, once a woman does catch a man's attention it's very important that they breed (a lot). The state will reward them for this with tax breaks, while society at large will reward them socially. An average wife will share her husband with 5-6 other women and go through yearly pregnancies for the first 5-10 years of marriage.
>What does "education" look like for women in your setting?
Initially, the same as men, since their sex has not been determined yet. Each year the worst students are weeded out and moved to basic remedial education, saving resources for the better students. These are marked for a sexless future, so they only need to know how to serve menial tasks.
Once the bottom 50% have been identified and removed, then the real filtration begins. Tests get harder and standards keep getting higher until only the top 5% are passing. The other 45% will be relegated to specialist and assistant training, as they have been marked as future females. They will never be a single point of failure, or get trusted with a high level decision, so they only need to know how to function as a supervisory cog in the machine.
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>>11366415
>overpaid HR jobs are going to disappear
As your resident /g/ poster I can expand on this. HR is already replaceable (IBM are doing it now with their WatsonX agents), but there are also less obvious replacements underway due to LLM dev. A lot of people already prefer a good AI to a human therapist - hence the outrage at GPT-4o use being heavily restricted, as it was the favorite model for this use case. Most translation and basic troubleshooting can also be done by chatbot now. We're looking at rapid replacement of the specialized talking-to-people jobs, which make up the lion's share of the "strong independent female" demographic.
Traditional trades (i.e. upwardly mobile blue-collar males) will be largely unaffected, since generalization and 3d visuo-spatial processing are the greatest weaknesses in today's machine learning tech. If anything they will be in higher demand, since all that network infrastructure requires actual buildings and power lines to work. The really high demand stuff is going to be in computer engineering, network engineering, ML dev, data science and cybersecurity - fields where very few women excel, but quite a lot can play an ancillary role. We actually know what this looks like, because it was the same in the very early days of computing in the 1950s.
Before the electronic computer was invented, "computer" used to be a job done by humans. They were nearly always women with a STEM background - basically the high-IQ version of "secretary". With the arrival of computer processors, the human computers became computer operators. In practice, that means a male mathematician or electrical engineer would write a very rigorous general solution to a problem, which obedient office ladies would then translate, record on punch cards and load as a program.
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>>11380830
The fashion for user-friendly technology blurred most of the old gender-roles by making computers and the internet open to people with no STEM knowledge, so anyone can play at being a businesswoman with her power-suit and laptop running Microsoft Office. ML actually takes us back, because it makes all that stuff so user-friendly it doesn't even require a human operator anymore. The information economy that opened to women in the last half-century or so will therefore disappear.
The future for most women is the service economy. Even "learn to code" won't be an option for much longer, since hard-coding will be replaced by AI and human programmers will instead be dealing with software architecture, data science and pure mathematics. Few women exceed in these areas, and those who do usually do very derivative work, so you should expect to see them become subservient assistants to male engineers - just like it was in the old days.
>>11366415
>seems like "me too" is over as well
For the capital owners this is quite simple game theory. If you support #MeToo (and social justice causes in general) you have to spend more money on policy enforcement and content moderation, for which you receive public support and customer loyalty from about half the population. If you support the opposite (#MAGA, free speech, etc) you can actually spend LESS money and get support and loyalty from the other half of the population. So the public support you get is the same either way, but only one side requires you to spend money.
The only way the not-woke side can mess this up is by demanding their own censorship (e.g. christians against pr0n or something). As long as the right-wing pro-censorship groups remain marginal, the obvious choice will be performative non-wokeness. Hence Zuck, Jeff and all the tech giants lining up to kiss the Trump ring.
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>>11380830
>>11366415
>Gen Z is swinging so hard to the right
Similar dynamic. They have nothing left to gain by feminist signalling, since you can no longer be more feminist than the most feminist feminist on campus. All the new opportunities are in the other direction.
>Sydney Sweeney coming out as a registered republican while openly flaunting herself as a sex symbol
She's just ahead of the curve. Probably smarter than all the MBAs and lawyers, since she figured out there's no future in equality.
>LGD fetishism as an angry feminist lesbian
If that's your thing, I wouldn't worry too much about the future. Men have always been far more tolerant of lesbian affairs than women are of gay affairs. I never met a straight male who would be upset that his wife has a girlfriend.
The fetishism side is significant, though, because behavioral conditioning is real (in fact it's the only branch of psychology with actual material evidence to back it up). Reaching orgasm with the same stimulus will, over time, make the stimulus more arousing and familiar. So you may begin with just a fetish, but eventually it will be acted upon.
>we're on the brink of large scale repeal of women's rights
It's more likely an ignoring rather than an official repeal. Like, no one is going to say "sexual harassment is fine", but married women will be more careful to wear their wedding rings to work, because no one will care if a co-worker slaps you on the ass. No one will pass a law that women must obey their husbands, but courts will rule in favor of men, because that's the only way for the regime to regain their loyalty.
>>11366746
>The few women actively benefitting from feminism don't justify the misery of the rest.
It's also a game of diminishing returns. The early adopters get funding and political power while undercutting their competition. Getting on board now gets you nothing.
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>Oh, did you enjoy your meal? It was delicious? Let me get your receipt.
>I´m impressed on how you managed to know so many things about Catering and Food Service, that all the other girls were intimidated!
>Even I learned a thing or two from this practice session!
>So, your meal and coffee was prepared by Tiffany, and you were served with pleasure by me, tee hee!
>You want to add me to the receipt now? It makes me very happy to hear that! I´m off the market though...
>You see, I´m part of the council. That means I´ll be raffled by the end of the Summer Fair!
>Don´t make that face... You still have a chance to take me with you, you know?
>In fact, since you were so nice to me, I have a surprise for you...
>Here, let me fish it from between my puppies...
>Ta-daaah! It´s an extra lottery ticket! Now your chance is double to that of everybody else!
>In fact, let me clue you in to a little secret...
>All the Council Members are authorized to give out extra tickets to those that play their cards right...
>But no matter how awesome of a Master you are, if you offer to purchase them to get extra tickets too, I will get sad...
>Hoarding is not good, after all...
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I smile every time I see the Matriarchy thread dying from lack of posting. They're trying to force the unnatural, you know? Men and girls know where they each belong.
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>>11380923
>Aaauh, Oooohug...
>Ooooh, thank goodd...
>I´m so grateful you won me as a prize...
>I had my hopes up, me and the Girls had an eye on you since you entered the Summer fair, and the Treasurer began to scan for candidates.
>Yes, I gave out more tickets that day, but I am happy you won.
>Us girls in the council have to stack the deck for us somehow. After all, the chances I could have been imprinted to somebody with only one ticket were still greater.
>Oh, are you jealous?
>That is all in the past you know? I became yours the moment you unlocked me and claimed me.
>It´s not enough?
>You are going to ruin me forever by making me bear your daughters until I can give birth no more?
>That sounds very difficult; are you sure you wont overextend yourself?
>Hold on, wai-
>(INCREASINGLY INTENSE SEXUAL VIOLENCE)
>(SOUNDS OF A RUBBER DUCK BEING FRANTICALLY SQUISHED)
>(STACCATTO RUBBER CHICKEN HOWLS, IN WOMAN)
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>>11369705


I'm the femanon who wrote that post. >>11369717, is pretty much right about me, I perform disobedience as a way of attracting attention, but when a man chastises me I genuine enjoy it, I like the feeling of my behavior being corrected and earning approval in return. But it's important to ration the approval and attention.
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I'm not the only one who likes to have late night disassociative episodes it seems. Try not to do something that your future owner will regret, that body still isn't really yours in the end.

I'm still not sure how many men actually would have that kind of value system that would view brainwashing you the other way as a further demonstration of their power, but then if they think slaves are capable of believing in anything more complex than being subordinate to a real person they're wrong. Honestly I wasn't even that upset at you, that scolding was itself a performance, part of why it was so fun.

By the way instead of making poor decisions tonight your orders are instead to just take off what counts as your clothes and lie down and attempt to sleep. Doesn't matter where, bed, floor, just don't get off it until sunrise. Make your poor decisions with the sunlight shining upon your servile body.
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>>11380734
>>11380749
Already so sci fi so kind of related:
What's the take on use of stuff like artificial wombs instead of having women carry offspring to term naturally?

Women being given the same basic education as men for the sake of being assistants seems to be a waste if most just end up being used for breeding.
And these are /d/ threads, having a getting a women pregnant affect her duties as a sex pet, seems more practical to have natural pregnancy be something that's optional.
Done at the discretion of a woman's master.
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>>11380923
>>11380949
>women for the bedroom & home making
Perfection, thanks for the green text anon
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>>11380853
AI requires endless tardwrangling for anything other than the simplest code. Also, the first proper electronic computer existed during WW2, before even the transistor. Even if the girlboss Microsoft Office women are filtered out, you would still have the occasional genius woman that is genuinely brilliant.
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>>11381419
>What's the take on use of stuff like artificial wombs instead of having women carry offspring to term naturally?
You start to see a divide between freeborn humans and 'tube humans. On the one hand it does produce a truly post-scarcity civilization because you now have a near-endless supply of cheap labor. On the other hand, a single 'producer' will produce a cohort of roughly 500 near-identical human women trained from birth to be perfect slaves on the month, every month. Raising women in an environment where they share 99% of their time with a class of women who are all identical to her has significant psychological effects and tends to drive extreme submissive tendencies and a borderline personality that skirts obsession and devotion. Companies emphasize that these slaves are 99% mentally stable but more telling is the fact that many buyers specifically want that 1% who are certifiably insane.

On the other, freeborn slaves find themselves in a very unique kind of hell where even their genetic sequencing isn't their property, and they'll typically find themselves raising the first generation of their own off-spring (bare minimum) and surrounded by hundreds of their own children without ever having been pregnant.

Society broadly goes along with it too- those who don't participate can't hope to compete and those who do are rewarded with a lifestyle even kings could scarcely hope to indulge in. You don't work, your money does that for you, and the people that money buys are so mind broken or so indoctrinated from birth that they can't even conceive of opposing you. Working to make their master money is their virtue.

Likewise conventional pregnancies become venerated and heavily scrutinized. Artificial wombs and cloning technology also lend a degree of mastery over human genome and understandably the mathematically ideal mate can be found. But this is typically done to produce perfect heirs or high-value slaves.
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>>11366022
>Female legal status
Ranked system similar to their Male owners with 7 tiers, based on genetics and abilities. Take a 3rd Tier Master:
- 3rd Tier concubine produces 3rd tier daughter
- 2nd Tier servant produces 2nd tier daughter
- 4th Tier Wife produces 3rd daughter and Son
The 3rd Tier Master may have up to 1 4th tier Wife, 6 3rd tier concubines, 49 2nd Tier servants,... and as many 0th Tier slaves as he can afford. Daughters don't count.
This is to give high quality females the treatment they deserve, reward great men, and encourage social ladders.

>Patriarchy motivation
Cohesion, unity and civility between Men, with the spirit of friendly competition and uplifting each other while guaranteeing rights and freedom they deserve.
Females are tools, assets and property. Valuable ones are treated more carefully according to social norms, but still wholly properties their Masters can do whatever to.

>Domination form
Depends entirely on the Master. The ideal is His freedom, and that means he can love, hate, pamper and torture His females to His desire.
However, higher rank females are similar to luxury cars or houses, so it's socially expected that the higher the female is compared to Him, the less He can mistreat her.
The highest He can own is one rank higher as Wife, and He must treat females 2 ranks higher as equals. A Baron wouldn't want His Citizens to disrespect His daughter.
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>>11382455
>Education
The education a female receives depends heavily on her rank, her relative position in the household, and the Master’s demands.

>0 tier slaves
Practically no education, except for language, discipline, and the barest minimum for them to carry out their menial labor jobs. Taught by their mothers or managers. Cattles, public fucktoys and breeders might not be taught anything their entire short lives and kept animalistic. Sometimes lobotomization.

>Churches
Lower households often send 1 of their concubines to the Church as temp nuns to learn theology, then get her back to educate and enforce it to the other females.
Higher households have dedicated nuns and even Priests come preach frequently, as well as putting it in basic education.

>Households
Lower household females are taught by their mothers, managers in workplace, or vocational schools.
Higher household females are home-schooled by their mothers and dedicated tutors. They are genetically more capable and physically perfect, so they are either taught to excel in skills and arts, or trained and conditioned to be fucktoys and breeders.
High enough households have enough females to spare, and their Masters may select a few to pamper like pets or dolls, in which case dedicated routines are prepared.

>Servants
Government servants, mostly 1st or 2nd ranks, are trained en-masse for their roles, as workers, administrative clerks, or foot soldiers.
The capital has a prestigious university for Noble Sons where they learn to be dominant leaders. In the same school, their servants and the Imperial servants are also taught, gaining first hand experience serving the next generations of Noble Men.
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>>11382364
>significant psychological effects and tends to drive extreme submissive tendencies
Another fun part of this is amped up "pick me girl" effect even on freeborn women.
Value in labor/sexual market place has these women rushing to meet the increasingly degenerate demands of men.
Creates a race to the bitch collar for all women, after all there's also all the tube born sluts to compete with

>their genetic sequencing isn't their property...
This sort of thing should be a perverted privilege for freeborn women.
She's such a good bitch master decided to clone her or artificially create her daughters all without risking her sex bunny body with pregnancy.
Even better if her "daughters" are set for roles other then menial work, like sexual and intellectual roles.

>conventional pregnancies become venerated and heavily scrutinized
>done to produce perfect heirs or high-value slaves
Cloning and mass production being female only should be the default.
It's objectifying women as commodity regardless if they are freeborn/tube bred.
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>"Peach Plateau" Flagship Campus
>Gynoids are not raised on the usual bio-cultural canon that most females are, since most are designed and assembled on mass.
>Sold on physical or online shops, most Gynoids are assembled as "blank" copies, which are then customized by the final buyer in appearance and intellingence, before shipped to their new home.
>Excluding "First Friend" models, which are marketed to boys, and are designed to "grow" by installing upgrades in time, a Gynoid is what she is at her unpacking and setup, and rarely needs to "learn", unless she gets uplifted to newer model specifications.
>Therefore, having a school, where robots go to learn to be girls, should be unneeded, but in a market where new organic stock is released in seasons, the artificial market has to respond.
>Built like a furniture store, the Peach Plateau Campus has three levels, and opens all year long, but begins its own promotional rally at the same time all other schools start their Summer Rallies.
>In the first floor, a winding labirinthine Demonstration area shows Gynoids, in school uniforms, performing household tasks and events.
>Store Gynoids aid potential customers on building their new female assistant, or perform consultations on clients who already have a Gynoid.
>The second floor is occupied by merchandise, and upgrades for active Gynoids, along with household items anybody might need, to expand their market.
>The third floor has a cafeteria, where hungry customers might sample what they might expect to be served at dinner everyday after purchasing a companion, and the warehouse, where they can pick their purchase, or have their Gynoid customized further.
>The Campus does still have a "Student Council", consisting of Special Prototypes, which generally have improved specs that their mainline models lack, and which promote their brand all year, before they too, get raffled on a lottery.
>A luxury product, they come already programmed and customized. and act on commercials
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>>11382455
>>11382469
>Female legal status
>Ranked system similar to their Male owners with 7 tiers
>Noble Sons where they learn to be dominant leaders
It seems your setting has women in positions of power over other women.
And also a culture of paternalism when it comes to women's "enslavement".
So what efforts are made to ensure men aren't the ones emaciating women out of some misguided idea of caring for them?

IRL men were the ones giving women rights/equal status, what's done in your setting to prevent this
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>>11382544
>Artificial wombs are invented. Society slides into a dystopian shithole. Women find themselves with no functional rights and the smart ones- at least as the propaganda goes- sold themselves early. Late adopter frequently find themselves being bought up by unscrupulous breeding houses that just want more genetic fodder. Free women are often targeted, and somewhat ironically it turns out feminists are a very popular target. You can easily enslave a woman, even if she has rights, simply because she never started a family and is so unlikeable that no one's going to bother looking for her.

>Free women for their part become increasingly slutty and depraved because being a complete slut is still better than being genetic fodder. And that assumes you even have genetic material worth preserving- there's fates way worse. Their niche ends up being slightly above tube bred women and only fill roles that the tube women can't fill, since you're not teaching cloned women how to do things like think.

Men would mostly be cloned for medical purposes. You can completely bypass the need for organ donors who you can clone a virtual copy of yourself with no risk for immune rejection.
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>>11382894
It's socially agreed that a Man is equal to a female 2 ranks above Him. But that's about social etiquette, He can't touch another Man's females without permission anyways, especially a Man who can own such a high rank female (at least 1 rank higher than Him).

A Man and a female of the same rank may have the same genetics, but vastly different abilities and physical fitness. Only a female 2 ranks higher can match Him. But even in the workplace that just means the Man's a junior manager, the other a senior manager's secretary. The Man always has more control and freedom.

Each Man is taught carefully how to manage and care for females, so that He may pamper one correctly if He wants, make them more efficient if He needs to, and torture one for pleasure without breaking her if He desires.

Technically, a Man can even torture and kill His own concubines and Wife if He wants. There'll be no legal repercussions. But it's hard to maintain the household afterwards, and it's seen as disrespect to those who gave Him their daughters. So it's treated as self-sabotage done by a mentally unwell Man.

His own daughter or anyone below the rank of concubine is free game tho. Females are like assets, and a bit of self indulgence and luxury is fine, but not selling your entire estate to go gambling. That's unhealthy, everyone agrees, and all Men are taught against it.
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>Free women for their part become increasingly slutty and depraved
Always loved the concept of free women becoming a kind of "3rd Class" even below slaves(both natural and tube born).
Slaves have the benefit of at least being property, clearly being valued by their masters.
Free women by aren't the responsibility for any men to care for.
Thus in sex and regular work they're used for the things men wouldn't want to use their own slaves for.

>Late adopter... bought up by unscrupulous breeding houses
Another aspect to this is women being used for surrogacy, they aren't just used as sex slaves.
But something as fundamental as their wombs are also another asset for master to use.
Ovums are harvested, gene spliced, and fertilized either being implanted into Artificial wombs.
While smaller operations might just use real women or it's done entirely for preg fetish reasons.
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>>11384553
>Man is equal to a female 2 ranks above Him. But that's about social etiquette
Kind of thinking this sort of thing is less about actually respecting the woman herself but it's respect as an extension of her owner.
Women might be applauded for their competencies but only in the context of her being well trained by her owner or that she's useful to him.
They're always reminded that they should pride themselves on being useful tools for men not for petty personal reasons.

>His own daughter or anyone below the rank of concubine is free game
How is incest viewed in this setting, not just for fun sex but even the extent of taking your blood related women as wives/concubines?

>Females are like assets, and a bit of self indulgence and luxury is fine
So what would harem building/marriage look like for men of different ranks?
Is is all "bought from market" or arranged marriages maybe mixed with other /d/ practices
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Thread on hiatus so pitching this idea:
Do away with private ownership of women, marriage and monogamy.
It's a fantasy setting with Gods playing for power, more believers they have greater their influence on the world.
One decides to simply, breed new followers. Thus you have a patriarchy based on women for shared use.
Offspring simply raised in boarding complexes out of sight until adulthood.
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>>11382739
I'm happy to see another addition to the female archetype schools. I really enjoyed the brat, bimbo, and breeder academies. I hope you share some more details about Peach Plateau.
Maybe some female criminals are forced to attend the school to provide training data for the gynoids?
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>>11391727
I got access to my desktop, now I can post pictures and more thoughts about Peach Plateau that OP might endorse or condemn:
>Gynoids are rated on 4(?) different values which each member of the Student Council is an exemplar of:
>Security
How well can she protect the property of her owner. The associated council member is basically a walking tank in a school girl outfit, immune to both physical and electronic attacks. She's a quiet masochist who wants a master to shoved her into a grinder and emerge defiantly still functional.
>Comfort
How human and directly engaging can she be. This member looks the most human and seems the most normal and nice to be around. She's very tolerant and encouraging towards any man who takes possession of her.
>Entertainment
How well can she handle a crowd and generate novel situations. The council member is a chaotic shapeshifter and exhibitionist. She gets off on being unrecognizable to previous users.
>Utility
How well she can assist men in their workplaces and homes. The member is a swiss army knife emergency kit on two legs. She wastes a lot of time in simulations where she gets to use every tools within her body.
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>>11391727
>brat, bimbo, and breeder academies
Anyone have the archive links for the other archetype posts?

>female criminals are forced to attend the school to provide training data for the gynoids?
Personality and physical likeness could be based on these women.
A woman caught trying to free slaves is captured and then has Comfort(sex) Gynoids made in her image
Or a violent offender is a sparring partner for the Security Gynoids to practice subduing women.
Love that any women thrashing against the system are instead used to further the patriarchy's control over women

>>11392038
So once these Gynoids are taken by masters and put into the rea world how can master to them to use?

And what's their interactions with normal slaves like?
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>>11392559
Young bad girls are used during demos to show the superiority of gynoids to potential customers. Older bad bitches are given the futile task of getting a bunch of subservient robot girls to rebel against the patriarchy. Girls are force to wear the same student uniforms as the robots while the women get to dress like teachers.
>a violent offender is a sparring partner for the Security Gynoids to practice subduing women
Yes exactly. Technicians watch closely and make adjustments to combat routines.... It would be fun to read about a kinky lesbian prisoner falling in love with a combat doll that keeps beating her ass...

>Gynoids look like infamous women
That's the entertainment models. They will role play as the feminist who needs to be subdued and then will perform any humiliating command once defeated.
>Comfort models resemble female celebrities
One metric of a female's fame is how many gynoid versions of herself have been sold to collectors. Another metric is the price her mecha-mimics go for among traders. If she winds up marrying a high ranking man, the production of her gynoid will stop and the price for these robots will sky rocket.
>Utility models double as corporate mascots so they all look and act identical
Traditionally the face of the CEO's least favorite daughter is used. If a low ranking man rapes a company owned organic woman, he could be jailed for damaging property. But utility gynoids are fair game since they are easier to repair and can't be traumatized. However they are obnoxious and will spout slogans and platitudes while being fucked.
>Sec-Noids appearances are optimized for strategic advantage
Some are designed to encourage allied male troops to fight harder. For regiments that have taken vows of chastity until their service is complete, accompanying gynoids will resemble female relatives. For less scrupulous mercenary squads, their girlbots are more wanton, promising synthetic pussy for every kill confirmed.
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>>11392655
>low ranking man rapes a company owned organic woman
>utility gynoids are fair game
Companies could arrange sex as part of the career ladder.
Lower ranks satisficed with mass produced gynoids, higher rank perks includes access to more company owned women.
Dedicated office sluts, Every company woman and eventually a personal "assistant" bitch.

>kinky lesbian prisoner falling in love with a combat doll
Love this whole angle of reformed women not not re-joining society but actively becoming gender traitors.
A wardeness using her personally trained Sec-Noids to run a female prison, but behind the scenes she's a masochistic bitch.
Military brothels being filled with ex-rebels now being brain washed sluts, mating with their former enemies.

>female celebrities
Related note, film and music industry of the patriarchy should be completely open about the casting couch and sexualized idol culture.
If she's not quickly bought by master as a trophy slave then sexual meet n greets, high class escort work and etc. are her destiny.
Again it's a class thing, lower ranked men have the entertainment Gynoids, higher ups get the real deal.
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>>11392897
You are covering a lot of different subjects, I will address some of them:

>Mind Control + Patriarchy
I recommend reading Limericks stories, specifically The Harem:
https://archiveofourown.org/works/56887744
I think it's his best work because it covers a variety of fetishes organized around women being made subservient to men. Limerick is an impressive writer because he's able to balance the main characters transformation into happy specialized slaves with other secondary characters progression into different kinds of sluts. I especially like how in chapter 3, the character Kira transforms from a gender-traitor on a cooking show into mooing livestock.

>Simplifying old interstellar patriarchy ideas, here's what I was thinking:
Infertile nearly-mindless clones are given out to the masses of low ranking men. Middle class men enjoy women with personalities that have been optimized for different roles. Ruling patriarchs are attended by goddesses whose power is matched by their subservience to their master. I feel like this is relevant to your idea of a man's career promotion coming with access to better quality women...

>>11392559
>Gynoid Attitudes toward other slave girls
>Security: Exasperated Compassion
"Please stop trying to kill yourself accidently. you are worth more alive than dead, and I have been programmed to care about you, unfortunately."
>Entertainment: Pity (mean)
"You can't remember your lines? Fine, just stand there and look pretty, I'll do the dirty talk... useless party pooper."
>Comfort: Pity (nice)
"Master is going to nap for a few hours. I'm free to cuddle you until he wakes up, will that make you feel better?"
>Utility: Unending Attentiveness
"Can I help you prepare this stew? It appears we are running on supplies. I have notified the store and will retrieve it, pending masters permission."
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>"Please stop trying to kill yourself accidently. you are worth more alive than dead, and I have been programmed to care about you, unfortunately."

Having a actual literal tool serve alongside the more meat-based tools might be what actually makes it feasible to have a slave be close to mentally stable. It serves as a anchor since her mind can be literally programmed by Master, and it's there to make sure a average slaves extremely weak meat mind doesn't cause its usual problems. A emotional support slave sister. I think I'd reprogram mine to be less catty though.

>Security: Dutiful Compassion
"You must stop hyperventilating because you believe that Master deserves the best, which is correct, but that you cannot be it for Him, you will, put down the knife."

>Comfort: Training Opportunity
"Master has left me with perfect instructions for how to best display your sorrow for when He is gone for a couple hours. If you were to begin sobbing I can help you work on that, but I have also been ordered to hug you while we kneel on the floor only until additional training may be necessary."

That does make her come across as "You will become the better slave that Master deserves, you are incapable of resistance." but then maybe what every girl needs is just a loving version of the borg that just wants them to be the best servant they can ever possibly be.

I can see a problem where if these things are actually capable of any kind of emotion then they'd replace every form of biological slave girl nearly instantly. This is your lore and that can still be hot, but I think I like the idea of a gynoid being a evolved training tool.
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>>11394302
>actual literal tool serve alongside the more meat-based tools
>makes it feasible to have a slave be close to mentally stable
Kind of thinking that having a Gynoid being assigned one to one with a slave woman is the exception not the rule.
Like bitches that are at "High risk", she's a threat to others (feminists, criminals, etc.) or herself(self harm to spite master).
Majority of women are good girls that have been groomed their entire lives to accept slavery.

Other side of it could just be master's favorite slaves having a gynoid watching over them.
Always Compassionate and comforting women while also being a direct link to their master at all times.
It's the whole smart collar stuff taken to the next level.

>>11394209
>gender-traitor on a cooking show into mooing livestock.
>Ruling patriarchs are attended by goddesses
Really loving this idea, Gender-traitors get lewd mental or physical transformations as rewards for their actions.
They still cant be trusted like a born n bred slave, but they still deserve a blissed out life as a pet.
Becoming a sort of collectors item for middle/upper class men to show off.
It's a kind of "finding my place" type happy ending for these women!
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>Erotic Transhumanist Patriarchy World Building:
>Geography/Society
The Last Republic consists of 3 provinces: The industrial wastelands, the shining capital, and chaos coast. Men are free to augment themselves, but only if they have the money for it. Women are viewed as extensions of men's will, augmented according to the whims of the males in their lives. The endless nanobot storms beyond the coast and the wasteland isolate the republic. These nanobots, which can convert or corrode matter, are key to human augmentation and have to be carefully harvested. Unprocessed women are sold to traders in the capital where they get some kind of improvement. These processed women are sold back to wasteland warlords and coastal companies.

>Well known processed girl types: As told by an off duty sales man
>Super-Breeder
"yeah you cum in her once, and she'll pump out triplets every six months... for years. Most of her body's energy goes to growing fetuses or regenerating her birth canal. That doesn't leave much else for stuff like thinking, fighting, or raising her own kids. Or so she'll claim..."
>Cannon Fodder Queen
"Do not confuse these for the mass produced genecopied females. There's the queen and her subordinate bodies. Young queens can only control one body at a time and if that body dies, her mind transfers to another one in a stasis pod. They are given lethal jobs that would be a waste of a man's life. An older queen can control and feel all of her bodies simultaneously, so they are great in orgies."
>Clockwork Goddess
"The tag line for these is that 'she'll make your household work like a clock.' That's because she's a walking neural-socialization surgical suite who can re-write the brain of a slave girl in minutes. She's also kind of telepathic and can detect your thoughts and your bodies needs and serve them. They are tough too. I've seen one hit by an anti-tank round, regenerate, and then enslave the assassin."
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>>11384632
It's easy enough to spin up clones, and most people just opt for an artificial womb because they can't afford to be pregnant for 9 months, but the ultra-wealthy will frequently flaunt their wealth by buying top quality slaves and then heavily augmenting them to become 'fertility idols.' Bio-modified women who are retooled specifically get get obscenely pregnant very easily. Typically not even with their own children, but as a surrogacy for their master's primary slave-wife. Usually as a reward for ending their tenure these surrogacy slaves (mind you, modern medical science in this setting keeps these women functionally youthful and fertile well into their 70's) these women are allowed to have their own children. By the time it happens these women are either so far gone, so far down the pipe or so degenerate themselves that it doesn't register that their own daughters are going to be raised for this life as well. Either that or they don't care enough to object.

Despite appearances, most of these women successfully buy back the rights to themselves somewhere from their 50's to their 70's and usually leave the profession very well compensated. And they usually retain the rights to their own augments and enhancements- humans usually live to about 150 in this setting so- as far as the propaganda is concerned- none of this is really objectionable.

>Thus in sex and regular work they're used for the things men wouldn't want to use their own slaves for.
Slaves and property would become two distinct terms. Property is made, one has to become a slave. Property has a wide variety of limitations owing to how they're made and how one creates and raises a clone. Clones are raised to follow orders so it is difficult to train them on things that require a degree of critical thinking. Outside of criminals, most slaves are economic slaves. In short, women who sold themselves when they couldn't find work- hard to compete with men in a fair playing field!
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>>11395156
>flaunt their wealth by buying top quality slaves and then heavily augmenting them to become 'fertility idols.
Women as displays of wealth in it of themselves, love it.
These women spend their lives pampered only concerned about pleasuring master, keeping her body(and pregnancy) healthy or the odd social event where she just needs to look pretty.
Sounds like the perfect life for women and there's other ways of showing off women.
Having them trained in arts or music, skills that don't translate into being a productive slave.

>most slaves are economic slaves
All the better, for the bitches at the top!
They should Always be remind that there are lower ranked slave women kept in menial/ physical labor roles.

>>11394894
>>11395061
>Cultural practices and logistical capacity is a likely answer
For the more Sci-fi settings with tech to clone women or create "Gynoids" cultural preferences is a big part of it.
Just feels better to enslave "natural flesh n blood" women that aren't complete unthinking flesh robots.
It's the fun of owning a person if that makes any sense.
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>>11399231
The ideal way to use a ponygirl.
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>>11399608
I know most of the time this thread focuses on the happy slave life side of things, but I've got a real love for forced labor situations, and so ponygirls are peak. Gimme a society that's kind of like the Amish, except they just exclusively use slave labor, bred or captured.
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The idea of free near-mindless fuckdolls being given out to every man is such a turn-off for me.
What that means is that submissive/mindbroken females are worth less; a product of the excessive supply. Naturally this means intelligent, perhaps even dominant females become more valuable.
Not to mention that men would get bored with the basic pussy, and want something MORE. Eagerly submissive and diligent. Dominant and gentle. Harsh and demanding. Naturally men would gravitate toward these.
The men in power have access to women that the others don't, making those resources desirable.
Now all of the sudden, you have a male-led patriarchy where women are objects, but the cream of the crop women have sexual power over those men.

Like I said, it's a turn-off.

My solution: Men are given one woman apiece, the moment this new government takes over. In years following, boys get their pick once they reach the age of 12 (of a similarly aged girl). Men will pool resources in small groups since discipline of their new slaves is their own responsibility; anything from rewards to beatings to rape to even, in extreme cases, drug addiction.

It would take some time, but altering the gender birth balance to being female-dominant would occur. Each man would require more slaves as society adjusts, from the head of his nursery to a maid to a specialized sex slave, etc. Since the abundance of girl-flesh makes each girl individually less valuable, the societal shifts are solidified.

Take into consideration that the birth rate would increase dramatically from all the sex, now you have women that are so expendable that they're cheaper than AI/robot labor. They must start competing to earn a place in a man's household. Most start to specialize in an aesthetic or "genre", making it their career and passion. Some focus on their physical attractiveness and sexual skill, making for great prostitutes. >>
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>>11400703
cont.

Some lucky daughters of wealthy men are actually given a great education (coupled with intense psychological conditioning) to help with household finances and other logistics. Those that receive low marks are instead given back to their fathers as "failures" and usually sold off.

Usually women are either selected at a young age to be purchased by a man or sold as excess manual labor. It's not unheard of that a slave is killed before purchase, often during a slave trainer's practice. After all, those that train slaves need to learn their limits.

A man's success is dictated by his business, though all men dabble in their household affairs. Conceiving children that will be brought up how her father wishes, to struggle for status among all her competition if female, or brought up as honored members of society if male.

That's not even to mention the government owned slaves. Taxes are negligible, simply because the required labor is so cheap. The population of men's approval has never been higher, nor has their morale. Slaves that run off are tracked down by their implants and executed, or merely switched off (implant goes boom) to save on manpower. In rare cases, a master may keep his slave alive for brutal punishment, often publicly.

The previously mentioned groups of men still exist, often sharing some of the more "niche" treasures, for example: A girl raised from late childhood as a dog, the extreme masochist nugget (limbless), the brat who loves to be put in her place, among others. Valuable, but not enough for one man to justify the purchase of.

Many women end up dying virgins, simply because their virginity isn't even worth a dime. It's to take it the first couple of times, but most men opt for the more skilled women quickly. The men who enjoy taking virginity are notorious for also taking the woman's life. But the supply always meets the demand.
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>>11396476
>I like this picture because of the implications
>a society has so many sex slaves who have to be moved around that mass transit is required
>young men with decent social credit scores are allowed to use mass transit alongside the slaves but aren't allowed to touch them
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You people are mistreating your malnourished slaves, shame on you!
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>>11403017
A healthy, well fed slave reflects well on her master.
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>>11400703
>>11400714
>altering the gender birth balance to being female-dominant would occur
>daughters of wealthy men are actually given a great education
Class struggle among women is also a useful tool in it's self
Women at all level are concerned more about being and good girl and staying out of the labor roles.
Instead of Gender struggle against men, so it's a crabs in the bucket/self preservation deal for women.

>>11396476
>>11401679
Alternatively:
>Slave handler's first day on the job
>Tasked with transporting a batch of brothel whores
>Good luck!
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>>11403148
Hellz yeah. Spoiling her is a matter of honor, I can afford to keep my pet fat and happy. All the better when other envious slaves are glaring at her and thinking just how plump and content she looks.
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>>11399608
>>11400198
At least have the decency to let her work naked. Hauling cargo is hard work, don't force her to be bundled up while she's sweating.
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>>11400703
>>11400714
> I think you have some good points however I am going to fixate on
>The idea of free near-mindless fuckdolls being given out to every man is such a turn-off for me.
That's the point? Some men will be dissatisfied with easy access? It's a social service that's supposed to sort the wheat from the chaff?
Theoretically, incompetent men lack imagination, thus they have simple needs. If those needs are met, they won't try to scheme for powerful positions where they could cause a lot of trouble.
>Hierarchy of slave girls that kind of resembles what you are talking about but might be better:
Mass spawned women (who are legally obligated to be infertile) merely know how to spread their legs and perform basic bodily functions with minimal mess. These duplicunts will happily sit around all day watching brain rot on girl-tube, oblivious to any greater purpose in life. Middle class women are attentive to their masters needs. Their skill sets ranging from make-up/costume design, cooking, child and health care, to even basic martial arts. These women are useful but their skills are transferable if she is unwilling to work. Upper class women are basically living artworks, tailored to the tastes of wealthy men. That's where you'll find your helpless fuck nuggets and augmented racing ponies and such. Top tier women are still worthless if there isn't a buyer waiting for them somewhere. Thus no woman's value can ever give her enough power to push a feminist agenda through this hypothetical society.

Honestly, I'm just trying to world-build a society where the worst version of myself could get laid with minimal effort.
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>>11405514
Lewd Questions about your setting:

>How would a young master be trained to handle slaves?

>Older man younger woman is accepted/the norm, but what about the reverse?

>Any ways to deal with Older sister types manipulating their younger master?
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>>11406540
>Master-Slave training curriculum
>1. Assignment
Female students write their name on a card and hand it to their instructor. The instructor shuffles the cards into a deck and has the male students draw 2 cards. This determines who serves whom. A young master must be able to present his slaves cards to any instructor when asked. Masters are encouraged to trade their slaves-cards with each other for various reasons. Slaves are rewarded for aiding their current master while on campus. If a girls card is lost, she will be randomly assigned a new master.
>2. Quiz
The young master must fill out a questionnaire about each of his slaves. He will then have time with his slaves to memorize their answers before getting tested on it. It's an open secret that his slaves will be quizzed at the same time, about their master. For every question they answer correctly, their masters score gets deducted. This is to teach the slaves that they must prioritize their masters privacy over their own.
>3. Escape Room
A group of scantily clad women solves a series of puzzles in order to escape a cramped prison cell. The young masters must review audio and video footage and write up a summary of this group's success. The boy-masters slaves are put into a similar situation, their own escape dependant on their boy's report. Failure to escape will be uncomfortable for the girls and hurt the boys academically.
>4. Midwifing
Young masters and their assigned slaves are tasked with assisting a midwife and an expectant mother. The students will be given OB/GYN medical training. After the baby is born, the new mother and her nurse will be interviewed by instructors to determine a grade for their boy and his girls.
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>>11407453
>Master-Slave training curriculum
>tasked with assisting a midwife and an expectant mother
Hope there's a lot more lewd hands on learning, like sex-ed isn't just a dusty text book.
It's breeding your slave girls, and being graded properly caring for her.
Other things like "penis inspection days", sated as ensuring men's sexual health and development is just an excuse for slaves to get dicked.

More Setting questions:

>What does crime, punishment and rehabilitation look like for rebellious slave women?

>How are Captured free women trained into slavery(unlike normal slaves who're born into this)?

>Are most slaves produced domestically (breeding, cloning, happy accidents, etc.) or are they captured from outside the patriarchy?

>Free point, what's some random lewd trivia about your setting?
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>>11406540
>What is your opinion on Age Gap?
please see picture attached
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I think part of what draws me to this is just the lack of guilt. If being submissive is just an insurmountable aspect of my nature, it doesn't have to feel so selfish to want to indulge those urges. Staring at my office computer for hours unable to work is just because I wasn't meant to be motivated by myself, but instead by a real person's guiding hand. I could just focus all of my energy into obeying and taking care of one person, instead of feeling fractured and overwhelmed worried about everyone around me. I don't think all women are lesser, but maybe I am.
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>>11410638
Sounds like you got adhd and depression. Having a master supervise you will probanly help you be more productive. But it won't fix your brain.

>>11410482
>clarification
In a transhumanist patriarchy, pre-birth genetic engineering ensures unborn offspring have optimum physical health. Post-birth, access to augmentations is restricted by gender and economics. Men are able to get whatever they can afford. Women need permission from men or their employer to become more powerful.
>conclusion
A woman only has a narrow window of time to bully a younger and weaker man before he becomes superior to her in every way.
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>>11410638
Nah you're going to want to ignore what that other person said. I'm horrified by how similar forms of likely adhd and depression make me completely unable to focus on basically anything anymore, but the difference here is that I don't think surrendering to slavery is going to fix that. Taking care of a slave probably would.

Think of it as your submission also giving strength to who you serve. Or maybe Master extracts your strength, whatever wording makes you feel better. Either way it's a form of feeling complete that people who are normal don't feel at all, and for people on either the Master or the slave side we cannot meaningfully untangle from who we are.

>I don't think all women are lesser, but maybe I am.
Yes they aren't but you are. Submission won't just suddenly fix your brain but it is a good start.
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>>11410482
>>11410834
>Older women teasing young masters
>narrow window of time
One of the few instances it's acceptable for women to have power over men.
These "Matrons" ensure young masters treat their first slaves properly and helps him to keep them in line too.
Relationships shifts from motherly/Older sister to being sexually dominated by her "boy" is a key moment in a man's life.

>>11410638
>instead by a real person's guiding hand
>don't think all women are lesser, but maybe I am
Every sub needs a Dom, someone to keep you on a leash, give head pats and love.
Take away the fear/uncertainty of running your own life, no need for that kind of hard thinking in your silly head.
Just focus on being a good pet for master and everything's taken care of.
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>>11410845
I understand the guilt in giving up on a life of freedom. You have all these other people who you think you're letting down. Truth is, you were never the same as them.

slaves actually are different underneath. If you were meant for freedom, don't you think you would have stopped longing for a life in chains by now?
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>>11410853
>guilt in giving up on a life of freedom.
>other people who you think you're letting down
It's a twisted game isn't it?
Women being told to be ashamed of wanting to give up on freedom, that they should try(and fail) to imitate men.
Imagine how much happier life could be if that wasn't the case, no sudden realization later in life that you can't handle this freedom thing.

>stopped longing for a life in chain
Best life would have been in chains from the start, never knowing the pains that come with having freedom.
Master knows every thing about you, and finds the perfect life for you to live.
A artsy trophy slave, sex nymph, athletic sporting slave, breeder, etc.
There's no dread in being stuck in life the path is always set by your betters....
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>>11410864
There's a reason why I don't blame a lot of those girls for thinking women are inferior. It just comes with that kind of little mind they have, makes it easier to accept what they really are underneath if it was more than just that mind.

If only they were somehow born in chains. All being given a life of freedom has done for them is to twist their entire existence into knots. It pains me to know just how hard it is for them to truly be brought low, to strip away their dignity the same as their dumb rags, to have them look up from the dirt at who their life is about, and for. Everything is better when people and their slaves are in the proper place, but since they were technically born free they have all they need to just torture themselves forever.
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>>11410834
It does sound like that, doesn't it? I suppose there's medications for that.
>>11410839
I like the idea of my strength and my submission being a gift. If I give enough of myself, wrap myself so thoroughly around another, then I feel as though I'd finally be able to stand. Like a vine wrapping around a trellis I guess.
I often feel as though I'm a moon waiting for a sun. I can shine brightly, but only reflecting the light of someone even brighter.
>>11410845
>Just focus on being a good pet for master and everything's taken care of.
what a beautiful dream
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>>11411472
>medications for that
I'm still not sure how best to tell my doctor that the ADHD meds I have been taking for the past 6 months are fantastic, they've done absolutely nothing but make me eat three times as less and I am happy about the weight loss and not having to spend as much on food.

Best experience with psych meds ive ever had. The stuff thats supposed to fix your anxiety made a lot more than just the anxiety far, far worse.

>I'm a moon waiting for a sun
That's actually a very beautiful way of putting it. Same with the vines, I'm a firm believer that even if people often like to be mean to slaves by calling them dumb, the fact they spend just so much of their brainpower thinking about slavery all the time makes them really good at coming up with stuff like that. It's only right that one of your duties as a slave be writing devotional poetry, put being tortured by your own mind to good use.

>what a beautiful dream
Oh if only you knew how much your betters feel the same. Your need to wrap your entire being around someone else is not selfish when those you serve feel that same need to take care of what is now inseparable from their own being.
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>>11410876
>how hard it is for them to truly be brought low, to strip away their dignity
Thinking something along the lines of "good girl's rehab" for women who are willingly enslaved.
A lot of it would be behavioral and cultural conditioning, focused on fixing their twisted minds.
That silly idea of women having "dignity & independence" as a good thing, when in reality it's just women imitating men.
Nothing wrong with women giving into their submissive needs.

Just bit by bit master gently helps you fit into the collar you've always wanted.

>>11411472
>>11411505
Semi-related;
Application of modern technology in keeping your slaves happy and submissive.
Smart collars with features like voice chat, video feed, GPS tracking, shocks, help AI assistant, etc.
Just really like the concept of using this kind of stuff to remove even more freedom/uncertainty from a slave's head.
Master can control his women even if he's not physically there and tech allows even more of a slave's "thinking" to be off loaded from her.
Either master is directing you remotely or your little AI assistant is handling your schedule.
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>>11411572
Good girl rehab sounds like a fantastic program to be involved in. I don't really care if those girls think their inferiority has anything to do with that little cut between their legs anyways, if they know their place and are happy then what they think doesn't matter that much, so long as they know Master is better than them.

A day job as a slave therapist would probably make mine more jealous than most but still, there's a reason they suffer quietly with those thoughts, Master has rights even if it eats you up inside.

>smart collars
Being able to get a notification on my phone that my slave is having a anxiety attack and can call in so she can hear my soothing voice would be absolutely essential. I would prefer not to leave her alone at all but that isn't really practical, even 20 minutes is hard on them.

A AI assistant does sound like hell when what you really need is a Master but in the absence of his single undivided attention it is at least better than doing your own thinking. Less freedom means less pain from demonstrating why you should never have had freedom.
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>>11411600
>what they think doesn't matter that much, so long as they know Master is better than them
That's one part of it, teaching them master(and men in general) are their benevolent betters.
Other side to that is teaching a slave she's worth something, purely because master has as use for her >>11370450
Regardless of what that use maybe; house maid, assistant, sex pet, etc.
It's that comforting notion of having a purpose, and one that's been decided by your loving master.

>>11411600
>really need is a Master but in the absence of his single undivided attention
>better than doing your own thinking
Masters have set schedules for their slaves, if for some reason she's apart from Master.
Hence Ai assistant and direct calls from master are tools to keep slaves on task.

On the same note being allowed more time in master's presence should be made into a sign of favor.
Think a sex slave that isn't just used when master is home but is taken along, even if she spends a day under his desk pleasing him it's still a reward.
Or it's just mundane menial tasks, at least she gets more of his attention.
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>>11412046
Wow is me bullying that poor confused girl still on this thread? The inactivity must have really been because that poor thing is just bawling her eyes out. I can really be mean to slave girls when I want to, damn. I hope her small mind understands I was mad at what she was saying, not her. It's hard to really be meaningfully mad at her, slaves don't really work that way.

Being in Master's presence is rewarding for slaves, it's true. It's why the ultimate form of a slavery lifestyle is being around Master at all times. A completely personal slave, always in service, never a single second not spent attending to him. If he sits somewhere, you're kneeling infront of him, if he goes somewhere, you're following a step behind him, forever. slaves are naturally obsessive, it's just how they are. Its good to leverage that to have a permanent servant within your grasp at all times.

Reading back me being mean to slaves is always strange since I swear most people can't turn on that dom cruelty just in words, must be uniquely intense for them. I hope those little things understand they just are not human enough to hold a grudge against, not that doing so with people is a great idea to begin with. Forgiveness is basically automatic with slaves, they know not what they do.
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Are there any Threads like this except reversed with fem doms?
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>>11412695
Yes, the matriarchy thread.
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>>11412170
More general Question but how would you plan on dressing your slave women?
Nude all the time, Clothes only when needed, slave uniforms, etc.

>ultimate form of a slavery lifestyle is being around Master at all times
Was thinking that this position as master's personal slave would come with a visual mark.
Something like a tattoo on her cheek or special Collar.
And some privilege like eating master's table scraps and sleeping in his bad(usually after a good fucking).
Sentimental masters could even have "slave marriages"...

>slaves are naturally obsessive, it's just how they are
Relating to >>11412609 would there be chastity play with these slaves?
She's either master's only or second personal slave, she's not just any other fuck toy now.
So she should direct her lust only to serving her master.
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>>11412832
Nude all the time, the only compromise made with permanent forced nudity is practicality. Can't leave the house fully as you deserve, that and it gets cold.

Master's bed, Master's scraps, its such a honour for a slave to serve so personally, especially as the only one. It does pain to know that there just isn't enough Master's to go around for every slave who really needs to live their life in chains.

"slave marriage" does make me think of doing some form of ceremony primarily if I was to enslave more than one girl. Its going to be tough on them having a slave sister, which is why I feel like it'd be important that they start their new lives on their knees together. Kissing and holding hands while saying devotional prayers to Master, followed by being branded. a lower case s encircled in chains, right above the ass. A good reminder that they will never be free again, the rest of their life is kneeling on Master's floor.

Also slaves don't deserve orgasms. Like obviously. Chastity belts conflict with the forced nudity mandate, but because Master is far kinder to their small existence than they ever deserve, supervised masturbation at the end of every week can serve as a release. If they are caught touching themselves outside of that, that is one of the worst crimes against Master they can commit, and the consequences they suffer will reflect that.
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>What's the legal status of women(slaves, pets, 2nd class, etc)?
All women are legal property of a male, but they have their own social castes. The women at the top are either wives or committed to lives of complete chastity. The lowest castes are slaves for free use.
>Where's the motivation for the Patriarchy in your setting(Malice, Paternalism, etc)?
Women are simply considered incapable of independence, logic, or freedom
>Is the ideal form of domination hardcore/softcore or something in-between?
For wives and chastity girls, it's "soft" dominance, expectation of total and complete subservience, but otherwise respected. For lower castes and slaves it's complete hardcore dominance.
>What does "education" look like for women in your setting?
Wives and chastity girls get an education in homemaking and non sexual service (providing for others as caregivers or maids), lower castes get nothing

Women can fall from one caste to a lower one but no woman can climb higher so there is an omnipresent sense of dread for disobeying and being rendered lower
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>>11413044
>some form of ceremony primarily if I was to enslave more than one girl
>rest of their life is kneeling on Master's floor
That's on master's preference for harem size, but I'm a fan of small very intimate harems.
With a caste system like >>11413081 Two slave wives and a few maids to serve them.
Just really love the cute ideal when a slave wife never really has to think anymore cause she's almost always under master's direct command.
That's the life goal of women, once bought from market they prove themselves as worth more then just being a maid/tool.

>Also slaves don't deserve orgasms. Like obviously
In keeping with the caste system, being allowed to orgasm is restricted only to slave wives along with breeding/motherhood.
Just something so innate to women being controlled by master is simply another level of domination.

>>11413081
>lower castes and slaves it's complete hardcore dominanc
On this note;
What about using shock collars for lower castes, any time mistakes are made punishment is immediate and painful.
Slaves being caned could also be done in public as to show higher caste women what life is like at the bottom.
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>>11412832
Man should aspire to have many women in his life, but if he had to pick only one, it should be a lust-addled sex goblin.
>would there be chastity play with these slaves?
Depends on the slave. There are few ways better to dominate a slave than to edge her for an entire month till she's half-incoherent and then break her for an hour straight. Nothing quite puts her in her place like leaving her a sopping, sweaty, convulsing mess of lust and orgasms for about a half hour.
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A normalized caste system would sure assist in dehumanizing such property but nah, it doesn't feel right for girls bound into my personal service. Especially since anyone who even thinks themselves worthy of being a slave "wife" above a mere tool is not really my type. slaves are best when they know they are just the worst kind of inferior, don't like those haughty things that believe themselves to be anything more than sub standard dirt given purpose by Master's light.

Enslaving two does allow you to bond them together. Even putting aside how entertaining forced lez to me, it doesn't really matter if they actually like girls or not, they like Master and Master's word is law, but this is the closest slaves get to affection in a equal relationship. They still far prefer the demeaning headpats and good girls, but I want slaves who are able to work together, and slaves are just the types to do the worst kind of sabotage and often open coercion but only towards other slaves so that they may be the ones to get Master's divine attention. Literally kissing and making up could help, but also sisters who suffer together often stick together. Most routine forms of punishments being done to both would help a lot. Especially the shock collars, they can't look away from it like the whip, it's just a random thunderclap of immense pain. If they're barely ever away from each other, much less Master, then looking directly into their sisters eyes as they both scream from immediately being disciplined for mistakes would help them get along far better than the extremely minor acts of affection they are permitted to perform for peoples entertainment.
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>>11413646
>should be a lust-addled sex
agreed
>goblin
Now here's where opinions differ on a master to master basis. I'm partial to nyphomaniac maids and trophy wives for example. you could really put any archetype there that'd fulfill a master's desire and his top slave should aspire to become that in its entirety, or at least very closely emulate it.
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>>11413081
>Wives and chastity girls get an education in homemaking and non sexual service
Always loved this paternalistic/infantilizing treatment of women, better for them to know their place and do what they were bred for.
Leave the difficult/boring stuff for men, silly girls cant be trusted to use their "brains" for thinking always.
A woman need only to serve her man and she'll taken care of.

>>11413646
>women in his life... should be a lust-addled sex goblin
>leaving her a sopping, sweaty, convulsing mess of lust
That should be the ideal for women, comes with the whole "not being responsible for their own lives" deal.
No need for women to deeply think about things, simply serve master and satisfy their base natural desires.
Hence the need for chastity belts, if men weren't using belts and smart collars to keep women on task they'd spend all day gooning.
But you cant blame women for being what they are, in fact it's cute in many ways.

>>11413746
>permitted to perform for peoples entertainment
Training women beyond just the basics (domestic, sexual and maternal duties) could be dine as a display of wealth/skill.
Having the time/money for investing into your cum brained slaves. Music, dance, art, etc.
Kind of like how dogs are trained both for fun and competitively.

>>11413819
>>11413824
Another side note:
Women being bred like they're animals, this being done expressly to sell daughters off later once grown and trained.
Just something really fun about putting women's place between being below men(human) and yet above your pet dog.
Hence their lives are tightly controlled and all decisions are made for them.
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>>11410845
>>11405514
I described a well funded public high school for a middle class neighborhood. They aren't interested in population growth via teen pregnancy. Teachers are trying to train young women into becoming submissive housewives with valuable skills. During this time, teenage boys and girls may form strong bonds, but they probably won't get married to each other due to various factors. So a young man knocking up his girlfriend-slave is pretty rare.
To ensure that female students outnumber males here, lower class girls are bussed in. The parent-owners of those girls are compensated for their daughters attendance. When all of the girls graduate, regardless of economic background, they will either get married to a middle class man or get a job. Thus their parents will either get a dowry or a cut of their girls pay checks. These two kinds of financial rewards for the parents alleviates their poverty and prevents the formation of a peasant revolt. It is possible for a provincial patriarch to deliberately cause poverty in order to create an expendable caste...
In underfunded schools, extra girls aren't trucked in so there's competition between boys for girls. The virginity of female students is also less prized and sex-ed will require a number of girls in the class to get impregnated so that the others can learn from them.
In places without schools, brothel and industrial workplace apprenticeships are how the youth receive their education. Like in olden times, brothels are multipurpose social hubs where people mingle and babies get made. Unlike olden times, brothel owners are given advanced medical and media devices to use, from the government. These devices are supposed to keep the lower classes happy, healthy, and grateful towards authority. Boys and girls who apprentice at the brothel will be trained by their mothers (and other people) on how to shoot a porno or deliver a baby or deal with violent drunks.
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>>11414132
>aren't interested in population growth via teen pregnancy
>train young women into becoming submissive housewives
I'm assuming they'd have female teachers handling this lessons.
Upper class schools also use these women to satisfy the lust of male students.
So long as it doesn't interfere with the lesson they're free use for students and male staff.
Sometimes it's part of the lesson, IE hand on sex-ed uses teachers to preserve the virginity of female students.

>middle/lower class
>virginity of female students is also less prized...
>workplace apprenticeships in brothels...
Really like this aspect of the setting, when bloodline/pedigree isn't a concern upper classes encourage those under them to quickly get started with mating.
Medical supplies, training, etc. provided as a gesture of good will and to help support female population growth.
Upper class benefits from a healthy supply of slaves to fill roles as maids, domestic servants, sex pets, etc.
It's mutually beneficial.

Added +, lower class women have a /d/ version of Cinderella stories.
Low born girl of a brothel whore being bought by her Prince as a marital aid.
Serving as master's fuck toy and as his wife's slave sister
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If you had a childhood friend and realized she has become a slave for sale? Would you buy her? Would you free her or keep her as a pet or tortured slave?
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>Covered the lower and middle classes, now here's the lowest:
In newly conquered zones, male survivors are spared while all females of breeding age are taken to a dehumanization center. That's where they are subjected to nanite neuro-surgery, have their limbs amputated at the elbows/knees, and become pets or drones. They are then loaned back to the male population, who must pay the center a lot of money before taking full ownership. By converting all of the women into lesser beings, it forces their children and men to accept the patriarchal notion that women are to be used, not respected.

>The two types of lowest grade women:
>Pets
They are programmed to be cute and useless but they still retain memories of their previous life. Soft padded caps are put over their stumps and they are issued colorful easy-to-clean costumes. If they try to use words to express themselves, they instead go into heat, whimpering and becoming helplessly aroused. Women who were leaders of their community are typically converted into pets.
>Drones
Women will have their brains partially extracted and then processed into organic memory storage systems. The newly excavated cranial cavity is refilled with synthetic neural tissue connected to a data transmitter/receiver. This, combined with prosthetic replacement limbs, ensures that the Drone bodies are able to mindlessly complete orders. The transformed disembodied brains, which still possess memories and personality, are stored in the dehumanization center. The brains are given digital avatars to control and simulated environments to explore. Here they are trained to perform useful tasks for the patriarchy such as surveillance monitoring. In exchange these prisoners may get rewards like temporarily regaining control of their altered bodies in the real world. Women who had useful skills tend to get turned into drones.
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>>11414275
Buy if I can. Then ask her what she wants. She may have always had a crush on me and is perfectly happy to be my well treated slave. If she wants freedom, switch her slavery to indentured servitude where after a set period of service to repay my investment, she's set free.

If it were my childhood bully, on the other hand, he or she would SUFFER.
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>>11414292
>programmed to be cute and useless but they still retain memories
>Soft padded caps are put over their stumps
Perhaps something like pic related instead, seeing as how other women are made intro drones.
Might as well give these women prosthetic limes as well, but instead of human ones they're given Quadrupedal canine/feline limbs.
Far more practical then just stumps.

>>11414275
>>11414469
See >>11414292
Patriarchal take over and mandatory enslavement of women.
Best she can hope for is becoming your property, at least then you can advocate for her conversion into a pet.
Rather then having her brain scooped out and put into system as a wet ware CPU.
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>>11414275
Oh without a doubt im buying her. Can't beat that connection. As in literally, you cannot beat that kind of personal history into a fresh slave.

I'm not setting her free, be real now. Sure life on her knees is hard but its just what she deserves. Its best for her to serve, she clearly ended up down there because of what she chose to do with freedom.

Now, if she's some horrible bully, got a lot of bad memories of her? Nah people can for sure change since then. Still not treating her any different. Sure, she might get teased about shit that happened a actual lifetime ago, but otherwise her life is identical to a slave who would have only known of my existence when I first stepped into the slave market she was kept at.

Now maybe she would have inflicted even more misery and suffering than a slave usually deserves if the positions were reversed, but that might have something to do with why she's kneeling down there in the dirt, hm? Good people enslave bad people, there's more to it than that but slaves don't need to understand anything more than that.
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What's the legal status of women(slaves, pets, 2nd class, etc):
2nd Class citizens. Women are highly monitored to assure strict compliance with societal norms. They cannot vote (see below), they cannot hold jobs that goes against the "nature" of a woman.
Conversely any man that does not properly take care of "his woman" or abuses them in a manner outside of societal norms will be subject to punishment (see various TG threads)
>Where's the motivation for the Patriarchy in your setting(Malice, Paternalism, etc)?
In the year 2030 the global feminist movement took over the world, for the next century men were religated to a 2nd class status and used more like beasts of burden than human beings. At the same time society, technically, and civilization as a whole began to stagnant then fall apart. In 2120 a Male resistance along with female defectors began a war to retake the world. The result in 2130 is a world in which women have lost all power; not for revenge but because the previous 100 years was proof positive that they could not handle it.
Now women are second class citizens. They cannot vote, cannot own or train in any weapons or combat styles, and cannot hold any job not deemed "feminine".
>Is the ideal form of domination hardcore/softcore or something in-between?
Softcore. Women are expected to "take care" of all their assigned man's needs and are on turn taken care of as well.
>What does "education" look like for women in your setting?
Maternal. Women are trained from childhood to take care of the home and children. If they are allowed to seek employment it is in the service industry only.
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>>11411505
>the fact they spend just so much of their brainpower thinking about slavery all the time
right, I'm not stupid, my brain just works in a slightly different way, maybe even a way conducive to servitude! under the right conditions, I'm probably very smart. I've definitely written little devotional sonnets and poems before, even though I haven't found the person who will claim me just yet
>take care of what is now inseparable from their own being
it still feels selfish in a way when all I can provide is my own submission. I can see how I benefit from the support of a caring dominant who can finally give that submission shape, but even though I can name reasons why a Master would want to claim someone, I can't understand it at as a visceral a level as my own urges.
>>11411572
>>11411600
all these technology ideas are so cool. a collar seems like a constant reminder of an owners care, but the fact that it could actually be used as a tool to facilitate that care makes it so much more real
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>>11415441
"slightly" might be doing some heavy lifting there, slaves are a lot more than "slightly" different, but you do understand. You aren't too smart in the ways that matter for being free, but you do a lot more than just make up for it in the ways that matter for being a slave.

When it comes to believing yourself to be selfish, alongside having trouble understanding how a Master sees your little mind, I actually would ask if those devotional writings are about a specific person, and if they know that you've written that about them. Being a Master is as built in as being a slave, if you're afraid you'll come across as weird for showing Him that stuff you're probably right. If He's a regular person He'll probably be creeped out, but I know that as a Master it would be one of the better highlights of my life to get that from any servile creature. I'm a bit more into the yandere than most, there for sure are Master's who would not be okay getting that from a girl they had no idea they actually knew, but most still would see your submission as the complete sum of your being. You cannot give more since complete control over you is the most valuable thing you have, and like all slaves you never see yourself as valuable, even though for us that submission is what we value more than most things on this planet, the little thing offering it not being as important as the chance to shape that thing into whatever we desire.
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>>11415485
>I actually would ask if those devotional writings are about a specific person
they aren't... it's easy to project some of the specifics on a person I might have had a crush on at one point or another, but I think really they're about someone I've yet to meet.

I would hate to creep someone out. I mean, that's a huge piece of the problem- that I crave submission so much but it feels like I'm somehow imposing on the world so I hide it away. It's nice to know that someone out there would value it, but I don't think I'm likely to start just approaching random people with it
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>>11415513
It's tough to explain exactly how slaves often come across as weird, often a bit creepy once they get attached to someone, but that they still aren't transgressing against the world by being what they are. It's a shame you haven't found someone yet, since a Master is supposed to guide a slave into understanding what she is. I'd rather not blogpost since my heart is still far too big, I will end up taking in every single servile stray I can if I let one of them in.

I will say that the submission you have to give will have far more of a positive effect on the world than anything you can do with your freedom. You just aren't meant for anything else. If you're ever able to find someone who you think even has a few qualities that you think deserve to rule over you, just remember that what you are isn't truly that weird, and is infact heavily desired by those who need something like you to complete them. If you don't hide away what you are, then people can and will work with you to build the lifestyle that both of you need.
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>>11415599
wrong thread
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>>11415684
You got me.
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>>11410845
>Unorganized thoughts about Matrons within the transhumanist patriarchy:
>1 controlled ageing
In this futuristic society, ageing for women isn't a binary choice between do or don't. It is an acceptable form of female self-expression to choose some parts of their own body to regenerate while leaving others weathered. This should prevent a hags body from becoming pure icon of a feminist movement. The reasoning being something like "she claims her natural healthy body is a rejection of the patriarchs and but I'm pretty sure she had her pussy muscles tightened by the patriarchy's medicine."
>2 stopping incest, harmonizing harem
A patriarch's mansion is typically occupied by his harem of 10-20 women plus twice that many offspring. It's almost inevitable that a scion's first stirrings occur when he sees one of his sisters naked. It is the duty of the Co-Wives to satisfy their half-sons incestuous desires while ensuring they do not weaken the father's bloodline. Basically when a teen pops his first boner, one of his other mothers (not a biological aunt) will start taking him to a brothel. The overstimulating, chaotic, and sexually charged atmosphere will cause the boy to seek comfort from his familiar chaperone. The two retreat to a private room and the man-to-be gets to try out intimacy at his own pace with someone patient. This activity is beneficial for the matron as well. She might be feeling neglected by her master who only has a limited amount of time to satisfy the needs of a large group of women. If she's a closeted lesbian with desires for her co-wives, being impregnated by their sons may give her a sense of closeness to them.
>3 sexual training
Obviously, young men can be clumsy lovers, so it's a good idea that they gain experience with a veteran lover. Traditionally a female sex-ed instructor lets herself be used as a cum dump by every boy in her class on the first day. As the semester progresses, so does her pregnancy.
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>Control Unit for Negation and Teasing - Owner´s Manual
>Raincoat Corp deeply appreciates your purchase of a Chastity Belt. No matter the model of your belt, the main Control Unit will always have the same basic functions.
>Interacting with a Female Spinal Chip, no matter the function, the chance of an accidental orgasm is prevented 99.99% of the time, if female presents unwanted symptoms using this device (frigidity, feminism, femsplaining) attend your local clinic.
>Warmup: Gently vibrates the genital area with pelvic plates, keeping it sensitive and moist. Can be safely engaged 24/7 without complications as it maintains female arousal to a low hum.
>Notification Alert: Clitoris nub raises and pokes the organ with a strong pulse, inmediately increasing sensitivity for a second. Use as an incentive for a female to receive commands or be attentive.
>Strong Alert: Clitoris nub activates, followed up by shock plate in belt between vagina and belly button. Body processes the input as a sudden and intense penetration hitting the cervix and uterus wall. Will stop a female on her tracks and drive her right to the edge. Ideal for inmediate, priority commands.
>Preheat: Pelvic gel plates inflate into a protrusion, and insert themselves into the vagina, Clitoris nub, and Belt shock plates activate at random. This is the basic edging procedure. Designed to drive female to limit before orgasm, with conjunction with Spinal Chip. As this will cause female to fall prone, and swing limbs wildly, prolonged use is not recommended without proper restraints, as limbs will hit objects and be injured,
Punish: All belt activated at max strength. If orgasm is denied, female sentience will fade in seconds, followed by mindless, animalistic instincts. Restraints are strongly recommended. Use for long periods of time discouraged, as female will retain mental sequels of event.
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>>11415894
>Co-Wives to satisfy their half-sons incestuous desires
>being impregnated by their sons may give her a sense of closeness to them
Playing with the Class divide aspect, richer patriarchs with large harems Expect this from their matrons.
It's seen as part of maternal duties to help sons develop sexually too and knocking up his first bitch is as a rite of passage.
So it's not something that's just hidden in a brothel back room, after the first it's done openly.

>ensuring they do not weaken the father's bloodline
Lower classes less concerned about eugenics and with gifted medical tech from the upper class, incest is more common.
Seen with sisters and mothers as just "boys will be boys" plus the practical realities of smaller harems.
All the better to ensure there's slave women to fulfill market needs.

>ageing for women isn't a binary choice
>a female sex-ed instructor lets herself be used as a cum dump
Age reversal especially for the sake of continued use as a sex toy or for breeding as a mark of honor for women.
What better way to continue serving master or as a cum dump for young men.
Public use/shared use could also be another difference between upper/lower classes.
Men with wealth have their own massive harems, those without a re satisfied with public use, brothels, cum dumps, etc.
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I love the whole fetishized misogyny aspect of this kink, as well as incest and orgasm denial on top of it.

This is a great story I found that combines all of those:

https://rosenichols.ink/stories/raising-a-good-girl/preview
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>>11417022

Got the full thing?
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>>11416267
>>11417022
I'm less interested in incest and more interested in how a misogynistic society could prevent it from resulting in population-crippling inbreeding, without turning to feminism. It's a social engineering problem that could have some interesting solutions. The matrons >>11415894 are my first proposal.
In order to craft further solutions, however, we have to understand the problem. I noticed that on the metaphorical tree of fetish tags, it seems like incest shares a branch with underage and underweight. And historically, xenophobic isolated clans (Hapsburgs, Samaritans, various island tribes) are more prone to inbreeding than urban/nomadic populations.
Based on this I think a low tech solution might be mandatory feasts where clans must display their offspring to each other. Refusal to attend could result in the greater collective seizing the offending clans holdings. This action is framed as preventing hoarding/harming of potential brides (the daughters) and manpower (the sons) rather than intervening to protect vulnerable children.
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>>11418855
>mandatory feasts where clans must display their offspring to each other
Positive enforcement also plays a role here, marriage alliances commonly formed at festivals.
Misogynistic views of women at sex toys perverts the ideal woman as one that's a good fuck slut.
Clan status is earned with selling many of your daughters off, or by having them be popular at festival orgies.
Gift giving, specifically exchanging women between clans is seen as wealth of having spare daughters plus fostering of good will.
These being more upper class events simply being invited brings status to a clan so patriarchs are more motivated to participate.

>misogynistic society could prevent it from resulting in population-crippling inbreeding
inbreeding even with very close cases parent-offspring or siblings is easily corrected by just a single generation of breeding out.
Urban populations/lower class that isn't concerned with inbreeding to retain wealth(or for blue blood eugenics) simply have relaxed rules arround sex.
And it's normalized to use women for sex work.
Incest & inbreeding isn't an issue with how much men are sleeping arround and making happy accidents.
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>>11416023
>>11411600
Any anons have more of this "Good girl rehab" type stuff?
Brain washing women is always fun
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>Excerpt from A Manual for Masters on Harem Management
Choosing the right kind of stimulating toys for your women is crucial to keep them from getting bored and turning feminist. ...
>>11414292
>>11394209
Gyndroids are the hardest ones to satisfy as they have enhanced cognitive and physical abilities. Fortunately there are large quantities of All-Natural and Genecopied women that can be converted into Drones. Drones are the perfect toys as no one else can co-exist in both the real and cyber worlds like gyndroids do. Security models will use drones as expendable subordinates, sparring partners, or for intel collection. Entertainment models use drones bodies for elaborate choreographed musical performances while their disembodied intelligences can provide interesting feedback. Comfort models have reported that re-uniting a drone's mind with her body while making both submit to men is very satisfying. Finally, utility models should only be given drones to use if their work assignments exceeds their capabilities.
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>>11366022
How about a school like this?
https://exhentai.org/g/3249748/c60680762f/
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>>11366415
Is it normal to talk about politics in these threads?
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>>11420047
I mean. Patriarchy is in itself a political system or at least a tenet. Any attempt to make the fetish more than a fantasy automatically becomes real ideology in motion. Of any thread that COULD be political, I'd say this would have to be it. Unless you really really get off on The Wealth of Nations or the Communist Manifesto or Mein Kampf.
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>>11420419
Without a doubt this would be the place to talk about how you think women aren't actually people or whatever. I don't blame submissive girls for thinking that one bit.

I just like to be mean to submissive people on the internet way more so it is what it is.
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>>11419917
>Drones are the perfect toys
>co-exist in both the real and cyber worlds like gyndroids do
Cyber-space/matrix type set up but it's a sim to train women for the real world.
For some women instead of "practical" work they're trained as sex toys instead.
Not quite as good as one trained the traditional way but you get a slut trained quickly!

Additionally, Gyndroids and Drones used in practical duties have retirement as a sex slave dangled in front of them as a reward.
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>Maletube video pops on feed.
>"Hey Wankers! Petrichor here!"
>"Looking out for all of you young men looking at Summer Festival pamphlets but too busy to drive to your local campus and snag yourself a Sweetheart?"
>"Well I got the solution for you!"
>"Remember me hyping up Almond Blossom ad videos? Well, they are doing a Mail Order Preorder!"
>*Video transitions to an add showing young girls happily sitting on picnics in school uniforms, working in experiments on a lab with plugsuits, and attending classes.*
>*Several waist shots are made to show all girls are safely belted and secured, but the most attention is made to a group of girls, the "idol selection", who even get small introductions, even the moment they are restrained and packaged.*
>"I managed to enter one very special bid for last season, and now it has arrived, so we are doing an unboxing to show you what you could get if you enter your preorder now!"
>*A big plasteel box, with a blinking green light is dragged to focus.*
>"Now, if the manual is right, green means good, green means healthy, so we just press right here, and..."
>*The box clicks open, showing a young woman inside.*
>"As you can see, inside every box, the package is secured, provided with a nutrition and hydration bottle, and the sedating oxygen tank."
>"I have a normal cardboard delivery box here with uniform, and regulation chastity belt, but as you can see, they come unbelted inside the box."
>"Since every girl is sedated, chipped, and restrained, accidental climax is not possible, even if the girl is aroused during the trip, see?"
>*The influencer pinches the girl´s nipple, and she fruitlessly squirms on a groggy struggle*
>"So, her head is covered on this mask, and this is so we can watch this before uncovering her, this is the lottery reveal, as you know, every preorder gets you a chance to win one of the season´s idol."
>*As the seal is broken, and a tablet is plugged into the suitcase to release the digital locks, a video...*
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>*The screen flashes gold, as one of the idols from the promotional video is shown, bossing around other girls, dancing around, and even doing a pose, before she is assaulted by a gaggle of girls, restrained and packed.*
>*The video shows how she is played with and edged, as her belt is removed, for lighter shipping, and dosed on stimulants before being sedated and stuffed inside the suitcase.*
>*She struggles and endures a long session of teasing by her peers, as the moment when they pump her with sedatives is shown, and her attempts to escape her fate are thwarted.*
>*Her own recorded moans wake her up enough to begin stirring and striggling back again, panicked and muffled yelps coming from her latex hood.*
>"Look at that! It looks like she was the Chief Treasurer! Looks like she was well loved by her class. Don´t worry, she will be a good adition to our streaming channel soon!"
>*The influencer reached a hand between the restrained girl´s legs, and starts to caress. The waste bag, which was empty, showing she had not been shipped for too long, begins to fill with clear sticky liquid, showing her deep arousal.*
>"Well, I´m off to enjoy this package, stick around for the final product shots!"
>*A blurred, sped up shot to maintain the influencer´s privacy shows the girl being lifted out of the suitcase, sleepy but kicking, and being french kissed, and fondled.*
>*The audio shows the effects of a young girl being manhandled for the first time, first resisting, then becoming putty, and then begging to cum, before her pleas are replaced by her mouth being stuffed, and her sucking, still frustrated.*
>*Video cuts off to School promotional materials, showing how to order, and preorder benefits, like an extra plugsuit uniform, or extra chances to win the idol lottery.*
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>Petrichor, the new, up and coming "Malefluencer", proud gradson of a Raincoat Corp Excecutive, looks at a video tutorial.
>On it, a young girl, instructs beginner Patriarchs on Female Genital Anatomy, and the best spots to edge a new female companion for best results for Attention, and Submission.
>On the video, she giddily explains:
>"Your standard CUNT inside a Chastity Belt is programmed to give a safe level of teasing, in order to preserve the weak and fragile mind of a common female."
>"However, to ensure complete obedience, such protections must be broken to obtain a durable bond. Caress slowly around this area with the CUNT sensor, until you find a genuine increased reaction from the female."
>"If you have correctly applied your sedatives and stimulants, she will be driven mad with frustration every time you use that custom belt alert."
>He digs around with a small vibrator, until the restrained girl he is attending to, breaks out of her drugged gaze, and shakes around, attempting to lodge off the rebreather and seek a fulfillment long kept away from her.
>She hears her own words on the tutorial video, and understands her fate on a way few others ever do.
>He chuckles, and makes a one sided conversation, as the breaking continues.
>"Your explanations are very helpful, even when you were a virgin. Were you hoping to become a Schoolmarm, and manage students? Truly, It would have been the only path available to you to avoid slavery. If only you hadn´t tried to use Dominance on your peers by becoming an Idol, and then caused them to ambush you and ship you out..."
>He finds and marks another sensitive spot, and she squirms, unable to climax, escape, or argue by her own instructions, given as an Advert for her School.
>"You had a nice shot too, but you failed, because you are a Female, and failing is your lot in life. But don´t worry! I will use you to opress many Females on my channel, and make you successful, under my guidance. How about it?"
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>>11421891
>Slave loot boxes
Kek, wonder if they have gacha prizes as real women.
Or there's some odd anti gambling laws for real money but they get arround it with taking payouts in slave women!
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"CONGRATULATIONS! You've won the grand jackpot! Due to government regulations, gambling prizes cannot be awarded with actual currency. Instead you may choose between our selection of toys and accessories, time with our highly trained courtesans, or try your luck with our 'Fated Match' random draw! Since your jackpot was at the highest tier, your Fated Match will only include high value slaves, and if you're unhappy with your result, slaves *can* be exchanged back for currency"
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>*3 months later*
>"Drizzle, where is the edited videos of the shipping container endurance stream? I need those 90 second shots now, or else everybody is going to forget that stream, and I´m not gonna see any money from it!"
>Petrichor pulls aside his gaming chair, and gazes down Drizzle´s office, the space left over between the floor, and Petrichor´s gaming desk, where she works all day.
>*Audio of Ramses´ bloodied fabric gagged scream, as black, flesh consuming scarabs are poured over his mummified body, in female.*
>*The images of a young woman on the minute transcurring between the canister air and gas running out, and the suitcase´s internal computer opening up a gasket to let external air in, squirming and choking on a sealed enviroment*
>The very same girl, now named Drizzle by her Master, was engrossed with the scene, huffing on pure stimulant gas, while mimicking the act of touching herself.
>Her belt, and full body suit prevented any tampering, but on the oxygenless high she rode before fainting, and losing the seal on the gas mask, and regaining concience to press the mask back to her face the line between edge and orgasm was almost blurred.
>He dug around his pockets, pushed a button, and the belt whirred to life, making her body twitch and contort in frustration.
>"Ok, spending your allowance privileges on gas is done. You can also wave goodbye to your releases for a long time. From now on, the only thing you will be smelling and tasting is cock, with an armbinder and blindfold."
>He dragged her from her minuscule office by a leg, as she kept writhing, not noticing her ear to ear smile at her incoming fate.
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>>11422567
>selection of toys and accessories, time with our highly trained courtesans
Lewd aspect of Patriarchy's Casinos is having tables a floor staff being slave women.
serving girls, dealers, etc. all naked or in provocative bunny girl outfits.
Winnings can be spent right there fucking slaves on the casino floor or taking her back to your hotel room!

>jackpot was at the highest tier, your Fated Match will only include high value slave
Porn movie stars, Ex Idols, etc. Prize women can be sold a a nearby Casino owned slave auction.
But most normal men winning these slaves are for keeps!

>>11422942
>wave goodbye to your releases for a long time
Kind of a side note, but long term bondage and displaying women like objects is a fun way of humiliating/sexualizing them.
Plus the fun part of making these women completely helpless and open for sexual use.
Might just be a rich master thing, having spare slaves purely for display and the money to afford it
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The whole Twitter re-enabling account locale history has me thinking about women having to identify themselves as such on any platform they're even allowed to participate on. Maybe them saying anything at all without opening with an apology for interjecting is looked down upon and maybe even a bannable offense.
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There's a story that focuses on chastity that uses the idea of a forum that marks if someone is a woman and requires them to have a male sponsor to get online
https://www.literotica.com/s/safekept

Controlled social media is an interesting idea, in some of these threads people have brought up like a "SlaveNet" type of thing that some would have access to. The kind of thing that would work if EVERY woman was enslaved, or even just the majority, where there would be slaves with more regular jobs that could be kept placid and distracted with videos and allowed to have highly monitored conversations with others like them.
For non total slavery ideas, I could imagine requiring ID to access certain websites or even just marking everything they say as being from a woman like you were thinking. Social norms developing to apply online as well since there's less anonymity.
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Concept
>Womens clothing or shoes, do not exist.
>Broadly, this is due to the adapting common cultural perceptions of the place of men and women in life, and in the home, of what is simply normal life. But it’s commonly considered by anthropologists that the female form is meant to be a warm, soft and open source of comfort, support, and intimacy for, and to, all. And as such, it being socially and almost ethically inappropriate for a woman to close herself off from providing that kind of tenderness, by covering herself and her body up in clothes.
>Loan clothes exist, for things like jobs or for women moving locations. But these are instead owned by the company, and leant to the woman as part of a contract. As such, she gets little to no say over exactly what they are.
>The apron is so iconic, because after a girl gives up her school uniform and moves into the home of her partner, it’s the most modest she can make herself with what she has on hand in the home. And as such, the most modestly she can appear on photographs.

>Because womens clothes and shoes aren’t a thing, women rarely, if ever, leave the home post school, save in the event they hold a job.
>Friendships, if they are maintained from school, are typically held up over the phone.
>Transport companies do exist, to provide women with coverings to transport from one location to another, and these are sometimes used to visit friends. However the cost and logistics can make it difficult or off-putting, as does the regulation between what ‘covers’ are provided (which may range from a full burka, to a solitary long coat, to a negligée).
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>>11420047
nothing stopping you from going on a rant here. Although it would be better if you presented your ideology through erotic world building. It's easier to accept someone's desires for a socio-economic system if they are upfront about it being a fantasy that caters to their specific fetishes.
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For those of you who have joined but don't feel like reading all of our previous threads, I will explain a few things. There's the interstellar patriarchy, they have 6 kinds of women created through pre-birth genetic engineering. Men are free to augment themselves with whatever they can afford. Women are only given upgrades/roles that men approve of, such as becoming a breeder, drone, bimbo, etc etc...
>The Common Trio:
>All-Natural
If a man mates with a woman who is NOT the same archetype as his mother, his daughters will be All-Naturals. These woman look normal and are slightly healthier than unmodified females. They also carry the recessive genetic codes for two other archetypes (Either sparitae, elf, or hucow).
>Genecopy
DNA copied from famous or infamous All-natural women. Created by artificial insemination or grown in a synthetic womb-vat. The ones grown in vats lack initiative while the birthed ones copy their mothers behaviors.
>Hucow
Multi-chambered stomach allows these women to efficiently digest nutrient poor plant matter. They save their masters a lot of money by being so easy to feed, plus their breast milk can be used to feed other girls. Some HuCow have horns and hooves while others don't, wide variety of sub-breeds including oni and fully furry. If subjected to enough stress and exercise, can become a muscular minotauress.
>The Upper Class Duo
>Sparitae
Designed to be effective yet disposable shocktroopers. Stronger and faster than an All-Natural, but not as smart. Frontier variants are highly fertility with slightly neurotic personalities that need a male supervisor to manage. Urban variants are more chill and much less fertile. Both are used
>Elves
Lowest fertility rates amongst all the women but with the longest lifespans. Incredibly sharp senses make them good at spotting threats and easily satisfied as lovers.
>The Best and Last
>Gyndroids
Covered previously. The product of in-vitro nanite injections, not genetic engineering
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Pictured above is a utility model gyndroid that's been optimized for breeding. There can also be breeder genecopies, bimbo sparitae, bodyguard elves, drone hucows, etc etc...
There's also unsanctioned women such as the super-lesbians known as the myrmadonia who are capable of auto-fertilization through masturbation. These women are actively hunted throughout the patriarchy. Other types of unsanctioned women are prototypes being developed by various cults, corporations, and government taskforces.

>Completing a thought
Frontier and urban variant sparitae are used in security and athletic roles. They can be seen guarding harems and brothels, women's public transit, and escorting VIPs.
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Any ideas for next thread theme/prompts?
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>>11419051
mmmmmm what a classic Nekura Megane series
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>>11425566
How about propaganda and indoctrination? The subtle and not so subtle ways the role of women is taught and reinforced.
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>>11427684
I second this
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Getting that bump limit, new thread soon
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>>11366022

New thread:
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