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>>11370046This is a good one!
>>11369559>Body swapFeels like the plot more becomes "Oh I have to live this person's life" which either sucks or they like more (literal envy wish fulfillment), or they just don't do. It just feels like a different fetish to me that I don't find interesting>Forced FeminizationIt feels like it plays to the horror element of TSF that I like but most stories can be solved by the guy just saying no and he doesn't give a shit about whatever blackmail the feminizer has over them, so it always feels like wish fulfillment and not imposed in a real way>CrossdressingI like femboys and crossdressing but for a whole different reason and dynamic than TSF, the two fetishes are separate and I hate when one becomes to other in a story. >SkinsuitsThey rarely play into the horror element that most these stories required them to kill the woman and wear their skin. It comes off some narcistic psycho form of possession, which I can't stand.>Identity DeathWhat's even the point? You're just killing a guy and poofing a woman in their place. A big part of TSF for me is the body horror, not the fact there used to be a guy there.
>>11370091>horror element
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>>11370091>skinsuits>immediately goes to buffalo bill>not finding a cute mascot outfit and getting stuck inside
>>11370116skinsuits tend to be that shitty skinsuit gun gimmick where they just murder people and wear them. Terrible fetish
>>11370117you must be looking in strange places as all the hits on skinsuits aren't skinning women and wearing it. its more like a reverse possession or assimilation fetish
>>11370091I'm not that picky, but all of those are understandable.One thing that I was thinking about was using the threat of identity death as a way to coerce forced feminization.
>>11370119Too bad. Costume gun bullshit has become the face of that fetish subgenre. I'm NTA you replied to before, but 'literally turning women into skinsuits so you can pretend to be them' is also what I first think of when I hear the term now, and as a result I have a visceral knee-jerk reaction to even the suggestion of including them alongside other TG/TSF subgenres.
>>11370115>oppai loli monster girl tsfawoooga>>11370121i like the page of this comic, where she is trying to hold back laying eggs, but the first one slips and her class gets updated or upgraded.
>>11370091>Body swapDepends on the bodyswap, sometimes its good like Ecchi Shitara Irekawacchata or Watashi no kare wa onnanoko and other ones were the two who swapped both know it but other ones like the lesbian one done the mangaka of this >>11370014 is pretty bad as the original people essentially no longer exist as they're in the bodies of the boys but don't remember being the girls.>Forced FeminizationI like this, does usually end up with the character having sex and then liking their new body but, that's 90% of the genre where they decide to never turn back.>CrossdressingI wouldn't count that as a subgenre of this, it's its own genre.>SkinsuitsYeah I don't care for skinsuits, its a weaker version of possession and too often the suit is torn so a cock can come out, I'm not here for futa or dickgirls, I'm here for men becoming girls or girls becoming men.>Identity DeathAlways terrible when this happens might as well not have happened, their personality getting corrupted or changing from the change but still identifiably them is alright. Even if its only the genderbent character who remembers them being a boy is preferable but that still isn't all that good as their memories of their male childhood conflicting with everyone else's of them as a girl is never explored, never get anyone ask them why they're uncomfortable in a bikini or skirt despite having worn them for years or mention their change in personality.I would also add possession, which is sometimes good sometimes bad, Medicine to Become Another Person is good but a lot of the rest by Date I don't like.
>>11370046What's the source on this? that's.... hiraagi popura's stuff isn't it? that art style is pretty unique, but he usually doesn't do "wholesome" stuff like this and cursory glance at exhentai brings up nothing like this>>11370212>Depends on the bodyswap, sometimes its good like Ecchi Shitara Irekawacchata or Watashi no kare wa onnanoko and other ones were the two who swapped both know it but other ones like the lesbian one done the mangaka of this >>11370014 (OP) (OP) is pretty bad as the original people essentially no longer exist as they're in the bodies of the boys but don't remember being the girls.Bodyswaps allows for some really great role reversals! stuff with those gets my dick hard as diamonds. Like say. a misogynist husband in stepfordland swaps with the wife he abused.
>>11370191>Too bad. Costume gun bullshit has become the face of that fetish subgenreI wonder if anyone has ever collected all the kinks on /d/ that usually require some form of murder and if the people who enjoy it are either phycopaths or so autistic they can fixate enough to ignore the death?To be pedantic though, not all skin suits are murder. The last thread had one of the rare examples that was neither murder or nonsensical. Ibuki Douji shed her skin and gifted it to her lover. Upon wearing it, it transformed him into a copy of herself. She was essentially a serpent god with so much power that multiple selves exist within her. So it makes sense that she could shed her skin and that said skin would have the power to change the form of a person.This is a very rare example though.
>>11370046This is surprising sweet, I liked it even though it's yuri.
>>11370239>character has proper identificationThat one's always a nitpick of mine reading these stories. It's a detail that gets often overlooked when someone gets transformed. It's basically impossible to function in modern society without at least some forms of documents proving who you are.Getting a job or traveling would be difficult and you would have a very hard time getting a new ID if you look very different from your previous form. Hopefully whatever device or person transforms them is nice and includes that with the change otherwise they will have a lot of trouble to deal with besides just having boobs and a twat.
>>11370250Kind of reminds me of that Franken fran parody of gift of the magi, where instead of selling their belongings, a couple swaps bodies but keeps their heads
>>11370253>That one's always a nitpick of mine reading these stories. It's a detail that gets often overlooked when someone gets transformed. It's basically impossible to function in modern society without at least some forms of documents proving who you are.Getting a job or traveling would be difficult and you would have a very hard time getting a new ID if you look very different from your previous form. Hopefully whatever device or person transforms them is nice and includes that with the change otherwise they will have a lot of trouble to deal with besides just having boobs and a twatSomeone should make one of these where instant of it leading into 20 pages of hard fucking, they have to fight to change all their identification. It could be pretty funny.I think the only time I've seen this is DCs Shocking Suzie, from the Hero Dial comic. She had to become a stripper because their was no way to to prove who she used to be so she lost her job, apartment, etc. With no SSN, work history, etc, ahe ended up working as a stripper and surviving on the cash put in her panties by patrons Its an easy lead into how someone would end up as a whore or slut. Its much more believable than "oh wow, cock in my pussy feels so good, guess ill become a public cum dump. *shrugs* what can you do? Cock is just so good"
Did chat bots kill rpgmaker tg games? I feel like almost none of them have updated since they've become popularI've made and used a lot of the public bots and they cant really replace dedicated fics, games, douj, etc. They dont really do the narrative or game play cycle. The reader has to push the story or chat in a direction. And the bot often forgets the direction.
>>11370249The only skinsuits I've had any interest in overlapped with my costume tf kink where it was basically just a magic Halloween costume, no weird "person-into-skinsuit" required because that's just weird.>>11370212>Identity death is always terrible.I think there's a difference between Identity Death and Identity Change, with the second just being a much more extreme form of a Mental Change that an outright erasing. That said I HAVE seen Identity Death used well in Multi TF works where only one person gets Identity Death'd while another isn't and has to deal with there freinds change along with their own transformation, which could even lead to them having to try reverse it to an extent as a narrative goal in the story.
>>11370253>>character has proper identification>That one's always a nitpick of mine reading these stories. It's a detail that gets often overlooked when someone gets transformed.This is a big reason I love Reality Change/Warp/Shift as a part of TSF stories, it solves that problem as well as allowing for a plausible reason for why other transformation tags (e.g. Mental Changes, Compulsion, eitc.) would appear since it would just be the new reality reinforcing itself on the protagonist.I just wish Reality Change/Warp would be used more often, I've seen some good stories and comics where the transformation of the surroundings is just as good as the transformation the protagonist goes through, yet it's always shoved aside or never touched on too often.
>>11370248Bit of a shame, i like his wholesome stuff a Hell of a lot more than his corruption stuff that he loves.
For me its...Bodyswap > transformation > skinsuit (that doesn't involved someone else dying) > possession > skinsuit (the regular kind), sex change (surgery)But my favorite type of TSF is twinning where you become someone's else twin. A shame, It hardly ever gets art.
>>11370248>What's the source on this?https://nhentai.net/g/322126/>>11370253>you would have a very hard time getting a new ID if you look very different from your previous formNobody's better equipped with the paperwork to steal your own identity than you are and modern society's ability to change the sex listed on official documents like your birth certificate trivializes the process in a gender-bender scenario.>>11370259>instant of it leading into 20 pages of hard fucking, they have to fight to change all their identificationThat'd be pretty hard to jerk off to.
>>11370328For me, I think I like transformation and body swap about the same. They both can be pretty hot. The others, like skinsuit and possession, I just try to avoid.
>>11370339Some anon in this thread a few years back, I think in 2022, had a writeup on how to steal your own identity. It was kino>fuck i been wacking it to tsf for almost 15 yearsAt least I never acted on this irl outside some crossdressing, even if its my first fetish I unlocked as a teenager I never took hormones
>>11370328How are transformation and sex change different.
i don't know if my desire to be ka-girled is pure enough. turning into a human girl would be novel but ultimately not that interesting. i think its best if it also comes with extreme social change, like getting turned into a slave-race like a twilek from star wars, or a pokemon, or a anthro girl
>>11370380It read it as surgery based stories, but looking into the tag its generally more about being turned into the opposite sex version of yourself. Transformation it's all about turning into somebody else.
>>11370328Bodyswap, transformation, and possession all are about the same based on how they handle the material. For me there can obviously be conflict in the story, but I think the "girl now stuck as a fat middle aged man" or "innocent girl's entire life is stolen away from her for no other reason than the possesser wanted to take it from her" is like the transformation equivalent of "guy turned into a girl and then is immediately raped by best friend who then locks them into their new body", where it's so overdone I don't care for it as much. Funnily enough I think in the opposite spectrum, bodyswap and possession get away with wish fulfillment where the guy turned girl can be happy without people raising a stink over it moreso than transformation
>>11370192So good. No thoughts, empty head, just a baby factory egg laying machine.
>>11370248Yeah, that's good bodyswap when the two people both know they've swapped, swaps where only one person knows are weaker, the first I listed is my favorite of the genre, boy and girl swap and find they can do it all the time and learn the secrets to each other's bodies.>>11370264Identity change is the one I prefer as even if the MC is the only person who remembers the change they still remember it, even better if a couple of people remember the change like say his old crush when he was a man and his bestfriend who now takes him as his wife. There are some alright identity deaths, the genderbent person ends up forgetting their old life or old identity gets given up on voluntarily, again going back to Date, they've got a few where the person possessing the girl ends up having their old personality and self die when they don't merge properly and that's not too bad. I think one of the worst though, is one where the boy only remembers who he once was when he's being fucked so he can never properly enjoy it.
>>11370114I hadn't realized cyberdemon3 had a pixiv account. Thank you for bringing that to my attention.
>>11370470i love stuffs like these where they are on the verge off accepting their new self and all it takes to fully embrace it is just one little slip up, like laying eggs, milk flowing, hitting their horn at the doorframes etc.
