been quite a while so let's bring this back again! post and discuss
I always like to see images of girls who are just as miserable and isolated as I am. I appreciate it, mutt. Last time I just posted Tomoko even if my brain is so bad at focusing that I can't even sit down and watch a anime to save my life, leading to a severe lack of actual context. I did manage to watch Lain 20 years ago though, and she always was more authentic to what this feels like. Seeing those girls you posted and how they style themselves, the black hair, the skin tone I can best describe as "ghost", since you've rotted away already, I have seen a few girls like that. It makes me think about how I myself try my best to feel alive, especially as a man with the slider turned over to feminine just enough to care about how I look. Even when I am able to look at a human being face to face, there's this idea of still trying to come across as happy and alive, even if inside I feel exactly like your images. Maybe it would feel intimidating to a girl like this who really is my type, but idk, I can't surrender to that horror inside of me, and I always felt I was meant to take leadership to resist surrender for more than just myself. BTW if anyone tells you they are actually authentically normal and happy all the time they are for sure a alien infiltration unit. Don't trust them. Misery gives you humanity.
>>11397855you deserve a hug anon
>>11398204Glad we're on the same page. You deserve one too, mutt.>>11398205Ive depression nested pretty hard before but I think my high score was still only 80% of the power of this image. Even at 10% its still not great, but hey, jerking off all day is just all you're going to do.
There was this one older kinda creepy girl who would constantly ask to hug me whenever she saw me in my early 20s. She was in some sort of poly relationship but clearly found me cute, and we would have these long ass hugs where sometimes it basically felt like she was feeling me up. This image reminds me of her.
>>11398314>touch starved, lonely>especially want this boy I like though>if I hug him constantly, I can at least have that>what? Nah I'll shower and take care of myself properly when I am sane enough, hugs now, sanity laterI mean even if she was in that relationship I can feel that. Atleast she asked. Probably did a lot of other messed up stuff, but she learned that lesson at least. If that was a while ago I hope she learned more.
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>>11398431nigga how tf can someone be "touch-starved" in a poly relationship??? she has both her hands in individual pots, and by hugging dude put her foot in another to simultaneously eat from that one, too
>>11398541Hey man I'm not this woman, idk. Seems weird to just randomly still try to hug people in such a extreme way so maybe that poly relationship was actually online or long distance or actually with 3 other women who were all Hatsune Miku.
>>11398541Most of the times the "Poly" bullshit is just an excuse for the Chad-Stacey of the relationship to openly cheat on the other partner with more attractive people, while keeping them in a leash for monetary satisfaction or as a reserve in case they don't find any good dick/pussy that season.So thinking she was touch starved is not farfetched at all.
>>11398545well you can feel bad for the poly person if you want. i'm not trying to suggest that indulging a poly person's craving for intimacy is bad; i'm just saying that hearing of a poly person wanting lingering hugs and calling them "touch-starved" and "lonely" is crazy work. in my opinion>>11398551i've heard some polycule horror stories (most of them), but in my opinion, even if someone is a victim to the polycule menace, i am not going to assume that, because polygamy is founded on different values from monogamy in the first place, so i think i'd be projecting were i (as a monogamous person) to default to assuming poly = victim. so unless she moved across the country with no support system without her polycule, i should assume she just thinks poly is more of a good thing, and hugging dude is reflective of that
>>11398564That dudes probably going to be a bit weirded out by how much I read into the memories of his old weird friend, but idk, something about how uncomfortable he described it as being, alongside that image, made me think of her pushing out any doubts of how uncomfortable demanding that intimacy was making people, since at least it was something. Hope she was able to learn from that. Have more interactions with human beings face to face to draw from. At least 7 of them, 7 is a good number.
>>11398580you know that "_master1200" filenames means you're saving the sample image, right??? unless the file size is too big to post, you're just fucking up
>>11398658Yeah the vast majority of the time I save the sample size. A lot of the images are actually too big to upload when getting the proper master, and the resolution is still good enough anyways. Best to just do that as a force of habit instead of going to upload stuff and having this forum dedicated to traditional tengri religious practices get mad that it's too big.
>>11398676i disagree that saving sample images is ever "best" nor "good enough", but different strokes, i guess
>>11398680I understand the desire to maximize the pixels in all circumstances but it was just too annoying to keep track of which images when saved in full would upload properly and which ones would get me a visit from lightning daddy Perun. For your own collection of images pertaining to sad anime girls and pre-christian slavic mythology it'd be unwise to rely on trawling the forum to get the best but it doesn't bother me that much. I make sure I have hi res copies of my favourites anyways.
>>11398703i feel this convo has overstayed its welcome, so this'll be my last reply. if you want to save and repost sample images out of laziness, that is fine, but like i said, i disagree with the idea that sample image resolution can ever be considered "good enough", nor that defaulting to sample images (out of laziness) is somehow "best"but because i was curious i found a pixiv that posted exclusively .pngs that i scraped recently (with gallery-dl), and filtering by file size (using "everything" by "voidtools"), of the 43 .pngs, all of them are <4mb (can be posted on /d/), and only a single one is >2mb (cannot be posted on /b/; maybe other boards, but i don't know which boards share /b/'s 2mb file size limit):https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/114985975https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/134126970>134126970_p0.png - 3.35 MB, 2000x2000 resthen i figured, maybe it's cheating, because this artist doesn't draw backgrounds. and .pngs are good with large areas of the same color. i found another one:https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/10035446of their 125 images, 65 are jpegs, all under 4mb. 24/60 of the .pngs are over 4mb. but this is definitely not standard. i just checked cham22's pixiv anyway, and i only have about half of it on this hard drive, but literally none (but the ugoira) were over 4mb, but cham22 doesn't draw backgrounds, i guess. i also half about half of taigerarts' pixiv on this hard drive, and only a single one is over 4mb:https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/24043865https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/132215172but i guess taigerarts doesn't tend to draw backgrounds, either. but either way, i think you're full of it. sorry. i do not think it is reasonable to assume that every pic is absudres and >4mb, therefore everything indiscriminately should be a sample image. you could just say you're lazy and leave it at that
>>11398710Oh no I am for sure lazy. Don't get me wrong. Like its not that many, but the first time a above 4 MB image did me in that was it. I just save shit into a big pile that I occasionally pull from too, like a caveman who barely understands what a computer is. I'm still getting used to things not being abacus based. I appreciate how much suboptimal pixels clearly upset you, this is the place and the thread for it, just sorry that me being clearly a techno barbarian in how lazy I am with those pixels sets it off like crazy.
>>11398713>There was a HOLE here.>It's gone now.
Does anyone else cry because they can't be a young NEET girl forever? I wanna go back I want to enjoy the comfy times forever
>>11400091All good things must eventually end. Best advice is to find like-minded neets.>>11398541She was the third wheel but for one reason or another wouldn't end things. Poly relationships are usually just 'grass is always greener on the other side' in practice.
>>11400131>All good things must eventually end. You don't understand how it hurts. I'm genuinely sobbing. An actual flood of emotion that causes me to scream and cry at onceI never even got to enjoy it to it's fullest in the first place.>Best advice is to find like-minded neets.I'm not even a NEET anymore.
>>11400554There just isn't a satisfactory answer to how to not be upset about growing old, especially as a girl. The only way I think to truly defeat it would be to have partners and friends accept you unconditionally in a extreme way, but identifying with the sad anime girls means you aren't doing too good in that area. The past few months Ive had long crys for the first time in years. If its any consolation, it's not just you. Maybe it'll make you feel 0.5% better having a threadbare connection to a internet stranger who is also upset about being in his early 30s. Maybe 0.3%?
>>11400580>There just isn't a satisfactory answer to how to not be upset about growing oldUsually it's just numb but then something happens that reminds me about being a kid again and then it sets me off and I start crying uncontrollably
>>11400606...Yeah, even the culture of the time, especially if you haven't seen it in a while, its flashing back to how much you've lost by not ever doing anything. Hope my lain pictures aren't doing that right now, I personally look shellshocked whenever I see our old friend Windows XP.
>>11400608>...Yeah, even the culture of the time, especially if you haven't seen it in a while,I have nostalgia for even just 3 or 4 years ago. The last 2 years just feel cursed
>>11400665When every year is worse than the last, it's just mathematical to feel nostalgia for 2021, however utterly cursed that statement is.(Also Tomoko is happening, do not resist)
>>11400674>feel nostalgia for 2021, however utterly cursed that statement is.Yeah, I think around 2022 was when life started feeling off for me>(Also Tomoko is happening, do not resist)Idk what that even means
>>11400683It was always just a slow grind down for me, makes the years going on even worse. Did something particularly bad happen for you in 2022? It never really...Peaked that much for me. >Idk what that even meansI had a cache of Lain images I was posting, now I found some Tomoko ones. Just have a bit of a complex about attempting to post images alongside my posts whenever I can, nothing more.
>>11398314There was one girl in my major who would hug me almost every Tuesday and Thursday for like a year and a half.I think I probably would have an heroed if it wasn't for her
>>11400721Yeah...Looking back, it's not hard to imagine what not getting that bare minimum physical affection would have done. It's been a while for me, it's pretty rough. I actually do go on walks every Tuesday and Thursday, for about 20 minutes. Even if I increasingly feel uncomfortable in my own skin in this world trying to go out and see what things look like is invaluable as a touching grass expedition. Helps you attempt to stay grounded, and also just helps you not do the same day every day. There's a reason why it feels like time has stood still despite it being years.
>>11400724Subjective time moves faster when it's buried in routines.>>11400699COVID turned the gradual realization that the mid-to-tail-end of the millennial generation and older zoomers were getting old into a sack of bricks. Your 30's are a weird time because you're too old to be young and too young to be old, but instead of a somewhat graceful transition you went into COVID in your late 20's or early 30's and came out... old. And despite having a golden opportunity to try and reinvent yourself you squandered it, probably on stupid stuff. Speaking from personal experience. >>11400580>>11400554Growing old is what you make of it. It is a massive privilege most people aren't afforded, but it is also a reflection of the life you've lived. It is also why it is so damn important to have meaningful social connections. COVID utterly obliterated my social life- my best friend died and it made me realize the people who were calling me friend were absolutely not. I'm pretty introverted but isolation goes from an oasis to a prison pretty quick when it isn't counter balanced with meaningful social engagement. All of which is to say that you shouldn't beat yourself up too much. You can scorn your past self but you made decisions that made sense at the time and if you had the option to go back, you'd do it all over again. Change sucks and it involves forgiving yourself for your past decisions and conceding that you're a giant fucking loser but being self critical turns into self loathing real fast. And doing what you've been doing will only bring you were you've already been.Not gonna wish you happiness but I hope you find whatever you're looking for.>I'm not even a NEET anymore.NEET is a mindset. Especially when you're not 23. The reality is that most people wont get 'tism bucks and financial realities don't let you be unemployed forever.
To be told that Ive been dead for a long time and this is actually hell would be ultimately vindicating. Clearly something has gone deeply wrong on this planet, this isn't living. To know that for sure would harden me even more to live for even a single day, even if it takes 80 years.
I wish women like this existed.
>>11401507They do, just living this way as a girl must crush your soul even more. There's just not a lot of other ways to explain my interactions with them.
>>11401649Why would it crush their souls? They're getting pampered and spoiled at home
>>11401660It's not the worst. Getting autismbucks you can occasionally order doordash to feel slightly better. Sure, monthly rent is 150% of your income, but disability isn't meant to keep people alive. If you have family to support you then it's not the worst, plenty of people don't and aren't capable of complaining anymore. Trying to rise above that with death hanging over you is hard enough, but since you do often want to interact with people similar to you that's part of why I think being a girl helps you just give up and retreat to the neetcave. I'd describe my view on feminism as "There are infact differences between men and women and I'm really mad about it", even at a basic level everyone treats you differently as a girl. There's this culture that you're the one that people will fight to break through the isolation and misery for, which makes it even more soul crushing when you still need to try and you don't. Best to just rot with your own feelings rather than face your friends that you think you've failed. There's someone who posted around here a while ago, possibly years, talking about how she is seeing her friends for the first time in 6 years. She posted a update after a while that it fell through and she still is trapped in the neetcave, but I remember that since 6 years is a long time, made me feel better that she still isn't dead. Ive got a long time to go before someone I know reaches that high score but the idea that I can still one day pull them back even after that long stuck with me. So long as you are still technically alive, you can still one day see a human being face to face.
>>11401691I suppose girls may worry about social expectations more. However, she must at least lead a happy life if she can't change. Taxes fund neetbucks, it would be a waste not to enjoy it. If my food is stolen, I would rather have the thief like it than that they throw it away
>>11401864I much prefer when people freak out about getting robbed, actually. It means you're getting something good, you didn't bring the parabellum for nothing. Nah honestly idk if you're trying to get a rise out of me but you're fine. You got any more images of anime women playing Nintendo consoles? It'd be a real shame if something were to happen to your virtual boy...
>>11401885>You got any more images of anime women playing Nintendo consoles?Maybe
>>11401899I mean I guess that'll do. I tried to look at your virtual boy before I swiped it but now I can't see anything anymore. I'm sure those girls are cute though. Put the anime in the bag and nobody has to lose today.As far as the neet experience goes I do wonder how many people also do drugs to deal with that. My autism is far too powerful to ever be defeated by drugs but the cultural shift around weed where I live has been absurd. Can stare at a wall and get assistance with disassociating all day without the anxiety. I do use take-out food a bit like that but I prefer my drugs to be prohibitively expensive and also slowly kill you while not smelling as bad.
>>11401507I meanI doIt sucks
>>11401937Yes.Idk why people think that just because girl neets don't go outside they don't exist. Boy neets go outside the exact same amount, baka.
>>11401956I had no idea 4chan had that word filter. Waow. I could look up which ones are in effect but its more fun if I don't and just randomly stumble into them.
>>11397855i hope you're able to find some level of happiness, even if it is fleeting, today. from one ghost to another i wish you all the best, anon
>>11401965I appreciate it, fellow ghost. If only the ghosts I do know understood just how much I get stuck on them. I wish you all the best aswell, anon.
>>11401956I guess, I try and put myself together when I do go out, so it's not like I exactly *look* like a neet when I'm outside
>>11402003Yeah if you go outside lacking in hygiene and stuff like that it brings the misery inside your soul to the forefront. Need to struggle at that and try your best, especially when its rare to go outside, it's a good opportunity to show the world what you want to be one day. Honestly even if I'm struggling a lot more now Ive pushed to be a lot more ontop of that. Not been dumb enough to go outside not having showered in a while, although I swear my hair has a mind of its own with how many new problems its having. It wants to become like picrel, and will fight me in hand to hand combat to get there.
>>11402011For me it's a bit different.I wasn't always this bad, I actually did have and hold down a job for like three, four years. Got a bachelor's. I have the memory of how to function. I just don't have the energy anymore.
>>11402019The memories of having been alive, once. I would like to hope they can motivate you to reclaim that one day, but I have a feeling they would torture you further. I suspect they would for me. The exhaustion, I already spend hours every night flashing back.
>>11402023I wish I could. I have no idea what's wrong, no amount of blood work or physicals have found anything. I'm just constantly exhausted, and even small exertions put me out of commission for a day or two. I helped a less functioning friend of mine clean their apartment about a month ago. They had let their fridge completely go, and had just let fast food containers and stuff build up in the living room, it was awful. They live on the second floor of an apartment complex, and going up and down those stairs to get the 20 some odd bags of trash down to the cans wiped me out for seriously a week, my legs STILL hurt a bit from it. At least a part of it is just I'm older now, but, it's not been a normal experience. My parents both have more endurance and ability to recover from things, and my dad's almost 60. I'm not even THAT out of shape. Just overweight, not even obese. That's entirely on the back of not being able to do things anymore, too. I used to be in good shape. When it started I was in relatively good condition, 'cuz my job was sorta physical. Stocking.I have the memory of functioning, and the desire to do so. I know how to do things, I feel the need to do things. I'm just so fucking tired, constantly. I'll sleep 10, 12 hours, and wake up tired. Towards the end when I was working, I had gone down to three days a week, all I could do, and my first day off, I'd sleep for like 16 hours, wake up for like three, then go back to sleep for another 4-8. I hate that I can't do anything anymore. I hate that I'll wake up more tired than I went to bed. I hate that doing moderately straining things I used to be able to do without a thought will have me in pain for a week.I can't even masturbate properly. Cumming makes my legs clench in a way that I'll feel for a few days. I'm too tired to do it at night, and doing it in the morning kills anything else I could do during the day, and using anything besides my fingers or an external vibe leaves me sore for days.
>>11402379I...Honestly just feel your pain. My issues with fatigue and exhaustion are nowhere near that bad, not even close, today I felt maybe 10% of what you do. From one internet stranger and/or ghost to another, I just want you to know that while I will never claim to understand what life like that is truly like, the just sheer despair in what you posted is something that I feel deeply. Spending all this time in bed as the world passes you by, the sheer despair knowing that you tried to do something and yet your limited time was not enough. The pain on your body is...I just hope you're able to find peace one day. If anyone has ever told you you're too negative or something and are just heaping your trauma onto people then that's a pile of complete bullshit since having to live that way is a pile of complete bullshit. Fuck that. If you're regularly suffering that much I don't care what you do to stick around.
Cute.
>>11402729Thank you. It is too much though, especially out of nowhere like this, sorry for that. Just feels good to complain a bit, and feel a bit heard, even if it's probably a buzz kill. I'm stubborn as fuck so that's not really a concern, and it's not like there aren't nice ways to pass the time. And there's the part of me that's very aware and grateful I have support from my parents, and a few very good friends, to be able to exist in relative comfort like this. I can't imagine going through something like this actually alone. Just, getting to complain a bit is nice.
>>11403177Nah man. Ive got a sleep disorder problem that is life long and seemingly also unsolvable. It might max out at 10% of that power honestly. Exactly enough to know just how awful it would be to have to live that way, even if you were screaming every single second you're alive that'd still be acceptable. I don't care, that's some extreme bullshit to have to deal with every day. Vent wherever and however you need, even in the part of the internet about sad anime girls.
>>11403118poor sick girl has no tits>>11403257i like this category of technically unappealing girl, shrinking away from everyone hides massive fucking tits
>>11404868Great aren't they?
I miss the old internet
I've been away from these threads for a while (because I think hanging around them was bad for my mental health), but I kinda missed them.
There was a period of me being terrified about becoming a NEET when I was older after a particularly shut in summer, now I've become a hikki whose weekly "outing" usually consists of sitting alone in a quiet section of my favorite park
>>11407292Being on this site is already detrimental for your mental health anon. I've been trying to stop too, but being dead honest with you, I just got nowhere else to go.
Neet girls are the cutest
I love huge babies.
>>11407582YeahI used to use it a bit years ago, in a much more limited form. I'd get a new game or watch a show or something, and find threads about it, since that was usually better and less... I guess I'd say, intensive, than talking about it anywhere else. More as an accessory to enjoying a thing, than a primary thing I would do. Sure, every now and then I'd shitpost a bit or argue about something, and I've liked using the red boards to talk about things I can't talk about anywhere else since forever. But it wasn't until I started my decline that I ever started using 4chan as a primary activity, and substitute for actually doing things. And it's absolutely not healthy. I FEEL the way my mind gets hooked into shit I don't care about, or get anxious about missing a thread that will be there now, later, or ij a year anyways. And worst of all, I know it's not healthy, but I still do it.
>>11405294Yes. It's adorable and hot as well. Maybe they really didn't had much curves first, probably felt unsexy compared to rest of her classmates, ended up wearing baggy clothes anyway so even when she blossomed at least in chest area she remained nerdy, neet dork. Then the bomb drops as she starts undressing and bummm her massive tits are out. Maybe she is now ashamed of them being so ugly and grotesquely large
>>11408365It isn't unhealthy. Your way of engaging with it is unhealthy. Set some modest limits- don't linger on a thread, see what you want, make your posts, move on for the day- and you'll be fine. That and have high-investment social relationships rather than talking to random internet strangers, which is the polar opposite of it. The problem is when people start treating 4chan as a replacement for meaningful human engagement when everyone here is a stranger who owes you nothing and expects nothing from you. >>11407581>>11403118Completely perfect. >>11402379At a glance, have you had your rT3 levels checked? Doctors will frequently request TSH tests for your thyroid but T3 / T4 / Free T3 / Free T4 and rT3 tests will often fly under the radar and many doctors don't understand that thyroid issues can crop up with seemingly 'normal' TSH when it's as low as 2 and doctors are getting scores back hanging around 5. Thyroid is complicated and most doctors can't be arsed to figure it out because it's also one of the more frequently over-reported meme issues. So they run the cheapest, quickest test, misunderstand the results because it lacks context and proclaim it can't be your thyroid.Otherwise, just how clean is your living space? How old is your mattress? Over-exposure to environmental mold (dust mites, mildew...) can suck the life out of you and if you're not sensitive to it, it'll frequently fly under the radar. Tons of seemingly weird stuff- like an over-accumulation of polyester clothing and bed sheets, over-consumption of industrial food- can all accumulate into an environment designed to kill your energy levels.
One chance at life and I am a wagie moid instead of a neet foid.
>>11408365Hey you're right to understand that this is a horrific facsimile of human interaction but in terms of how to do better than that I just don't know. A lot of the ways Ive conned myself into settling with this life are extremely personal, as I imagine they are to you. If there was a foolproof way to feel better than this you wouldn't be here, nor would anyone. I like when I look at the anime girl and she's just as sad as I am. That's nice atleast.
>>11408405idk but i feel like she wants to die posing like that. Like she is super emberassed but doing it for her fans and not hating it. It's just after posting it, she would plant her face into the pillow and screen "FUCKING HELL I WANT TO DIE, WHY DID I POST IT AAAARRRRGGHHHHHHH"
Games are the best
>>11408405>Otherwise, just how clean is your living space? How old is your mattress? Over-exposure to environmental mold (dust mites, mildew...) can suck the life out of you and if you're not sensitive to it, it'll frequently fly under the radar.Pretty clean, I think. Lotta dust, that accumulates quickly 'cuz high desert, but otherwise pretty clean, and it's so dry most of the year there's no real mold growth anywhere there's not active running water. Probably a bit less than reccomended for bedding and mattress cleaning and changes, but, I stay on top of it. Daily showers, sometimes two if I've feeling especially shit. Cleanliness is just about the only thing I still do maintain. Food-wise I can be a bit swingy by week, but I think I mostly do pretty well there, too. Mostly fresh meat and veggies, my pressure cooker is my best friend, since I can do big cooks that last a few days. Curry is easy like that, pot roasts, ribs, carnitas, refried beans, that kind of stuff. I used to be a lot more varied, that much I do know, but, making tons of dishes or too much ingredient prep is just exhausting. I'll research the thyroid stuff. Worth a shot at any rate, I think I have my next checkup in a few weeks, can't hurt to add something else on. Clothing wise, idk. Mostly I live in tank tops & sleep shorts, or sweaters & sweat pants by season these days. I have other stuff, just, if I'm not going out, I don't bother changing.And yeah, that's definitely what it feels like for my 4chan usage. It's definitely more and more a surrogate for interaction. I'm trying a few strategies to moderate it, but, only slight success. I'm not as alone as some, I do have some people and try to get out once a week minimum on principle, but, it's still way easier to just do this.
I've gotta stop jerking off so much. I'm doing it 3-4 times a day, which is always a sign I'm letting my life fall apart
>>11409804Should be doing it like 6-8 times a day, that'll sort things out. >>11409645Ever run a half-decent air quality scanner (so down to ~1 micron) for air quality? Mold is tenacious and I wouldn't assume that just because you live in a place that's only not a desert by about an inch or two of rain annually that you don't have any. >I'll research the thyroid stuff. Worth a shot at any rate, I think I have my next checkup in a few weeks, can't hurt to add something else on.When doctors run out of ideas and rule out the obvious signs of thyroid cancer / conditions, diabetes and sleep disorders they tend to run out of ideas. Diagnosing a thyroid is half an art so a lot of them wont even understand what they're looking at. >Clothing wise, idk. Mostly I live in tank tops & sleep shorts, or sweaters & sweat pants by season these days. I have other stuff, just, if I'm not going out, I don't bother changing.It's more the material than the type. Polyester is common and should generally be avoided. Both in terms of wearing it but also because the simple act of laundering polyester clothes exposes you to crazy amounts of meme micro plastics.
>>11409820>Should be doing it like 6-8 times a day, that'll sort things out.I'm scared of doing damage to my dick. I was was unable to maintain and erection and it scared me so bad I didn't jerk off for a week
>neet thread>it's only femalesi hate this shit, women can't be lonelyretarded thread
>>11401937trannies don't count
>>11410358Sorry anon. I only want a female neet housepet to take care of, molest and love
>>11410358There is no love for boys.A woman will never write a love letter for man as they are super defensive and we just a bunch for creepy bastards on their head.Sorry.
every board I visit has it's venting doomer thread, is it a sign of recession or am I just that fucked?
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>>11410358Sobbing. Girls are cute
>>11410624Not true. Love letters are childish and dumb and women are more likely to write them to guys they actually like. It's actually a girly thing (hence a bad idea to write them as a guy anyway).
>>11410358The endless onslaught of men who generally don't have the emotional maturity to be in a relationship but absolutely want and feel entitled to sex can be isolating for women. Especially when it makes them a target for other women. You have to second-guess the intentions of every man because they frequently wont even know when they're lying to themselves, and a ton of women will treat you like you don't exist because you being a NEET means you're of no value to them.You can absolutely make a neet lifestyle work for you and you can absolutely achieve a healthy life balance without completely abandoning the things you love but you will have to be willing to endure the uncertainty of change. Sorry that you're lonely, but the person who can fix that is you. It is rarely pleasant but the first thing you have to accept is that if you want to move into a (hopefully) better tomorrow you have to first be willing to sacrifice the things that make you comfortable now.Of course the author for Welcome to the NHK did sheepishly admit that after he made his money he proceeded to spend the next decade living off that money being a shut in neet again. >>11411020People can't find the satisfaction they want in real life so they go to places that make them feel comfortable to vent about it. 4chan users are overwhelmingly going to be the type who wants a nerdy dork girlfriend who they can engage with on an emotional level and also has a strong sexual appetite and doesn't judge them for wanting to huff her arm pits and kiss at her neck in between borderline autistic conversations about obscure ephemera.
>>11411020I posit that there's a contingent of "older" 4channers aged 26-36 who've been browsing this website for 10-15 years, and they never really aged out of daily use. The world has changed too much for them and they feel even more out of place now, so they spend too much time here. I'm not saying you should never use this site, but if you have a reasonably healthy social life, if you've got a couple hobbies you enjoying putting effort towards, if you're taking care of yourself, you probably don't need to visit this place that often. Or at least, you don't need to spend more than 15 minutes a day here. But unfortunately lots of Anons don't have friends, their jobs are crap (if they even have any), and they don't have much of a reason to get up in the morning. It's compounded by the thought that even if they did take strides to improve themselves, it'd take so long to see the fruits of that effort that they may as well not bother. It's a bad notion, because unless you're going to be dead in a few years, you'll probably enjoy the fruits of 3-5 years of self improvement for an additional 40. That said, if your goal is to get a girlfriend, you're kind of fucked if you're ugly and over 30.But this is just my two cents as an honest coomer. Just vibes mixed in with a little projection.
>>11412628I think there's some good thoughts here. Alongside the person talking about how women are also sad just in ways even harder for equally sad men to understand. Probably projecting a lot too but I legitimately lurked for years before actually posting was the least bad of a lot of bad options. 4chan is like a holding pattern or some form of purgatory for millennials. I will say especially since if you're getting in on 30 now and the world feels even more alien now that the memories of CRT screens are completely faded then your status as a unfuckable goblin is way less real than you'd expect. I get it, you're self conscious since being out in the world is even harder as the years pile up, but if you've got the kind of sexuality where you are extremely attracted to the opposite sex, think about how high your standards actually would be for someone attempting to interact with you, and then think about you being in that position, just reversed. Like yeah if you're a boy for a variety of reasons girls are treated way differently by society but they're just as fucked up and sad as you are, it's the human condition, they think they're unfuckable goblins and long to return when things were slightly less horrible in the 2000s too. Your vision of how horrible you are is such a difficult task to reflect in reality that you probably aren't actually doing it.
damn i hate my mind sometimesAnother social post about le women strong for wearing high heels and fucking up le feet or putting on heavy make up that takes hours to prepare.Forcing a girl like that to abandon wearing high heels, to stop her from putting on make ups. To see her initally hate her "odd" and natural look, but gaslight her into enjoy it (i mean bags under eyes aren't that bad, i'm sure everyone got it from stress killing their sleep time or having stupid long shifts and hard to have a good night), then watch as she slowly accepts not trying to appeal to everyone or trying hard to fit into a society. Just relaxing, watching shows, sometimes going out. Not a total neetification, just removing her from stuffs that annoyed her, but was too strong headed to admit she didn't enjoy pushing herself so far to appear beautiful.stupid dumb fantasies
>>11412628>That said, if your goal is to get a girlfriend, you're kind of fucked if you're ugly and over 30.Incels massively over-estimate just how ugly they actually are. 95% of it is people who want to justify inaction and not even trying because their current life- hell that it is- is still more comfortable in their minds than the risk of actually investing themselves in something that doesn't have guaranteed returns. Attraction is complicated and as long as you're not some Quasimodo looking ass, you've got a ton of cards to play. Generic physical attraction is only one of them, and most women can't even articulate what they really want. >>11412645I think it is more that you got a bunch of Millennials who are malding out because COVID made that transition from adulthood to middle ages less of a transition and more like a train accident. The people who thought they always had more time to figure it out realized they don't. That makes them angry and bitter. >>11412651Goblinification.
>>11413654>Covid>Less a transition and more a trainwreckYeah...Hey I don't really consider the way ive lived really living to begin with. Makes me slightly less angry and bitter, if I get a single day of life I'd be happy, it's not like ive really lost that much. The 2000s were still absolute hell, but if every year is worse than the last on a global scale and if we just flew off a fucking cliff in 2020 then longing for the days of Windows XP is a bit more than just nostalgia. Don't ever con yourself into thinking that things were actually good, they were just mathematically less bad. Especially when the computer was in a room in your house and we gave this totem of chaos the respect its power clearly deserves. >Incels massively over-estimate just how ugly they actually areHey now that I'm not having a 2 AM crashout I think I can articulate what I'm going for with that kind of thought. Being actually ugly on a physical level that you repulse everyone is a full time job, and being this sad is unemployed behaviour. I really doubt anyone is putting more effort into being ugly than they've managed to put anywhere else in their entire life.
>>11413754>I really doubt anyone is putting more effort into being ugly than they've managed to put anywhere else in their entire life.'Ugly' is usually an absence of effort. Honestly it's usually bad socialization that's at fault. You got people with limited social experience and low social maturity who misunderstand why people don't want to be around them, take the worst advice from awful people and then when the reaction to them inflicting themselves on people who don't want to be around them, they think it's a design flaw at fault when they're looking for the wrong thing in the wrong places.But if you're priming the pump and declaring you're an unfuckable old uggo, that is exactly what will happen.>Don't ever con yourself into thinking that things were actually good, they were just mathematically less bad.People hate getting old because they're told it is a bad thing, rather than something different.
Neet girls = best girls
>>11398551Poly takes a lot of time and communication to work. Been poly for over 20 years now, married for 15 of those. Been in a solid triad for nearly 10 of those years. Will still maintain: "Poly is great. I don't recommend it." To work, it requires a level of self-awareness, communication, and time investment most people just aren't willing to give.
>>11414474Yeah, I'd agree.I was briefly in one for about 3 months, four people total. For about two weeks, it was the best thing ever. As much love and affection and intimacy as I could take, always someone to do good stuff with, and there's something just incredibly, deeply satisfying about the people you love, loving eachother. Then it started breaking down slowly. I honestly don't even think the problem was me, self serving as that sounds. I think I was actually managing it pretty well, and at the end, all three wanted to stay in contact with me. I'm sure I made my own missteps, but, I think I was doing pretty well.But, things between the others started chafing. I don't think any of them were things that would be that out of place in a normal relationship, it's just that whenever one of those things happened, it caused a shift in the overall dynamic and balance, and if someone got a bit hurt, they didn't work it out properly, just retreated to one of the others. Lotta unhealthy avoidance and resentment, a lot of paranoia and stress. I'm someone who doesn't really play that game, I talk about my problems, pull problems out of other people to deal with them, and have always been able to maintain multiple channels of communication with people. I think I'm the only reason in lasted three months, I think it would have broken apart in under a month without me. But, that's part of it. YOU cannot make it work. One person MIGHT be able to make a two person relationship work, it's not the most healthy, but I think it's doable. But you can't make it work between other people, they have to be able to make it work, too. So, it's not just making sure you have the right stuff to enable it, anyone involved needs to be good at it, too. And, I have to imagine that makes the idea of adding anyone new incredibly stressful, because you're compounding successive 1/50 people level odds with each.
>>11414474>>11414705Polyamorous relationships usually only work in a trinary, and usually only along the terms that you're looking at a group of people who all fundamentally like each other and see no reason to sacrifice the shared friendship on the altar of monogamous exclusivity. Usually also takes a high degree of trust and a willingness to communicate. When it works, it works but the problem is that kind of like how BDSM has an unfortunate dovetail with dark triad personalities, polyamory dovetails with.... shitty people. They pass off cheating and infidelity as being poly when in reality they just don't like the fact that their existing relationship carries responsibilities with it. That and people who have such a lack of self identity that they'll put up with being the designated third wheel because they think it's better than being single.
>>11412615≤3this
In the late 2010s I managed to be closer to alive. Being trapped the suburbs without enough money to survive is tough, every single thing you try to do outside is a event that you need to commit to, but I had friends who I knew wanted to see me, and we could both do it. 2020 must have broke them. I flashback seeing the faces of a lot of people every time I spend hours trying to fall asleep. Everyone I must have ever seen, which isn't a lot. Maybe if it was only 20 or 30 minutes a night for me I could have enough time to spend the multiple hours on foot I would need, but so much of it is eaten up by all that torture. Roughly 5-6 hours of sleep most nights, about 14 spent in bed, sometimes more, sometimes less. I can only hope that none of those faces I sob remembering are truly just memories. I don't blame someone for wanting to check out of this life, it isn't living, but I won't rest until Ive had at least a single day of life.
I want...
>>11415741I wish I could hug you right now
>>11417170I can't remember the last time I felt physical affection. The last time I saw a human being face to face would have been late april, maybe early may. Going back through the texts to make sure would be too painful. I appreciate that a internet stranger feels the same things I do when reading other peoples venting posts.I swear I'm getting a early start on sundowning, feel immensely worse when the sun comes down, which considering that's at 5 PM now where I live isn't great but hey that's just how the planet works. Not worth it to get mad at it. Man created this hell, we're clearly more powerful than the planet, it would not have done this to us.
>>11415741>I won't rest until Ive had at least a single day of life.I hope you stick to this, anon. You might just find that once you've lived that single decent day, you might have the urge to live another. And another. And another...I hope you do.
>>11417206If Ive had a single day of life, I am sure I could fight for another hundred years to live another day, sustained by those memories.Two might be worth a thousand years. Zero is already worth a human lifetime, although I guess some people can really eat their depression wheaties and make it to 100 but none of us can really expect to be so cool as to be sustained purely by spite for that long. Not going to let this man made hell feel the thrill of victory over me.
>>11413654>I think it is more that you got a bunch of Millennials who are malding out because COVID made that transition from adulthood to middle ages less of a transition and more like a train accident.millennials were best positioned during covidit's zoomers that are malding
>>11410358>>it's only femalesEveryone wants or wants to be a NEET femaleBeing a male NEET is a curse
I'm a female neet. Depressive thoughts hit me often. I do nothing besides watching anime, playing cozy stuff and trying to grow my chest. Life inherently sucks
>>11417921>and trying to grow my chest.Feel like you mentioned this just so people would ask
>>11417928>snapchat
>>11417921this reads like you're going to scam me
The flashbacks were especially hard last night. Thankfully I was able to spend the entire day staring directly at the Mid 2000s videogame. You don't really need nutrition if you can instead disassociate. >>11417997My girl very likely is and I wish her the best of luck. This is a poor place to target, people here are horny sure but horny -and- sad. They're just going to trauma dump on you and they barely have anything worth stealing anyways. There's a reason why the best people to scam through the internet are old boomers who have a lot of money and not a lot of sense.
>>11417928>>11417989These ham planets are putting the pig in 3DPD.
I've always liked these thread but never understood why they are made here. They could easily be posted in /c/ or /e/.
>>11418245Thick neet
>>11417928She's pretty>>11417929Not really. It's among the things I waste my time on>>11417997I guess
>>11417921Having a female neet friend to play pretend rubbing udder cream all over her tits and talking about some hentai science on why it would help her tits explode in sizes would be fun
>>11419711Not gonna lieMy tits get pretty damn sore nowadays, someone to massage them would be nice. Just don't squeeze too much
>>11419816Sensible level of breast kneading and squeezing. Yep, i can work with that.
>>11418246A: Hentai.B: NEETdom usually dovetails with some niche fetishes. Alternative body types, slobs and sweat comes to mind.C: Perverts need a NEET thread, too. Arguably eroge and erotic culture has more in common with the NEET lifestyle than /ecchi/ and /cute/. Will agree that about 80% of the images being posted aren't /d/ grade though.>>11417921Have a social life. Get outside. Eat a cleaner diet. Life is pain and suffering but your relationships are what make it worth living. You don't deserve eternal agony and torment, you deserve to share it with those around you. >>11417575All comes down to luck. Of my wider circle of friends, the millennials tended to get fucked over. All but one of my friends got laid off, and while I managed to hold onto my job, it did involve moving four hours away, twice, in about five years. Also helped to normalize me to a semi-NEET WFH lifestyle I'm still trying to kick out of.
>>114182461. This kink is a sorta composite/specific combination of fetishes, kinda like venus. And those kinds of more esoteric fetish combinations trend /d/, if for no other reason than exploratory and vibes based kink development can't really happen on those other boards.2. Some of the sub parts of this kink are themselves /d/. Strong odors & body hair, "unattractive" qualities, ect. 3. A non-insubstantial part of this thread is the social aspect, /d/ is by far the best social red board. Whether or not the people in this thread are actually female neets, male larpers, or anything in-between, that's still part of the whole. Talking about kinks, lifestyle and kink, or anything else like it is very /d/ behavior
>>11420060>All comes down to luckYeahOf the fistful of people I know, I don't think there's any particular trend. One friend completely lapsed into unemployed neetdom after college, they graduated in 2019. I don't know what they've done to be able to maintain it, besides living in their parent's second property, so they don't have to pay rent or anything.Another got a huge, huge pay bonus for their job at some marketing place through covid, since they lost everyone else, so is doing well. The third older person I know, had a bunch of shitty jobs for a while, got laid off for covid, met their wife during, who does some computer stuff, and I think got a similar bonus/promotion during covid.My two younger friendsOne went through iirc 10th, 11th, and 12th grade via distance learning, and is basically completely fucked. They weren't a great student before, basically got cheated out of three years of education, and has no idea how to catch back up. The other only went through iirc 12th as distance, got a good job at a Starbucks right as things were restarting thanks to my aunt, and seems to be doing great. So, really does seem a bit like luck. There's obviously some markers of things that worked out vs didn't, but, there was no real way to know beforehand, you know?
am i really the only one here whos gotten so deep into the depression hole that ive started pissing in bottles
>>11420822It's stuff like that, alongside talking to a AI, that I am thankful I have still refused to do because of how visibly worn down I must be to cross that line. Maybe one day I'll fail, but for now I'm strapped incase some clanker thinks he can be a replacement for human connection. Also if you're having problems drinking water or much fluids at all you'll piss way, way less. That's a separate issue and you can't really influence the way depression strikes but there's a silver lining to that at least.
>>11420822I still can't imagine itCleanliness is pretty much the one thing I have left
>>11397792i dislike the miserable blogposting that goes on in the threads, but these kinds of girls are exactly my cup of tea..romance with lanky ugly femalesbedbreaking, babymaking sex with lanky ugly femalesmarriage with lanky ugly females
Need gyaru caretaker
>>11422126I can meet you halfway to lanky with being a bit chubby with scrawny limbs, but if we do anything bedbreaking, sex or otherwise, I'm gonna need some ibuprofen and tylenol
>>11421039haven't pissed in bottles (yet), but have talked to AI...i think its a good tool to at least keep some of your social skills and have someone you can rant to without affecting a genuine relationship.But yeah, its definitely no replacement for real human connection
Waking up from dreams now that are just about getting to talk to someone. There is no way out of hell except through. >>11423156I get that, not going to judge anyone for it. Something about it just seems...Idk, like a line that if I crossed would just end in a instant sobbing fit. Might also be related to how ive never really wanted to adopt any form of new technology. Smartphones became prevalent while I was in high school, but I never got one until a year or two after. That might be related to not having a friend during that time, but to this day I only really want to involve new tech if there's some critical job it needs to do. Being able to talk to people is a lot more than critical but something about it being a robot and these companies often explicitly marketing it as a way to fill the deep hole in so many peoples lives that they know they have just feels like even if I try it will hollow me out way more than staring at the videogame for hours at a time. That and I have played too much of said videogames not to spend the entire conversation insulting the wirehead for bein' a fuckin' hanzer. You think you can commercialize human interaction, chromeboi? Don't give a shit how borged out you are.
>>11423240Idk nigga at least you don't have someone stomping on your ceiling or some shit
>>11423240>Might also be related to how ive never really wanted to adopt any form of new technologySaaaaameI hate the machines. All of them. I don't care that my life is glued to them, I hate them.
I'm glad that I have a job that makes me "only" a semi shut-in, though sometimes I'd like to be a NEET again.Working while being depressed honestly just sucks ass
>>11418246/e/ and /h/ are weird about what's allowed to be posted, hence the running gag that is the pregnancy thread here in /d/. some of it is /c/ but there's probably just too much porn people want to post. some threads here are also half blogposting. I don't know why it's this board that's like that.>>11423240>>11423156I talked to AI for a bit and then cried about having some(thing) to have an actual conversation with (this was while I actually had a job), but it's not actually good at having a conversation. it doesn't know things about my interests, it forgets what happened howevermany messages ago, and if you're using something with a character system it'll probably try to talk for you, cyber or, -even worse- randomly chapter break into regurgitated example text. It's just not that pleasant at this point in development.
>>11424510There's this joke first made in some webcomic I saw a while back, Ive retold it a few times, but basically there's people who are enthusiastic about technology: They have every single thing in their house networked together, they got one of those home assistance things that can turn on their washing machine from anywhere in the world. Then there's people who use computers every day, who only have a single printer networked to the wider internet in their own home, and a loaded handgun next to it incase it makes any weird noises. As someone who actually stares at the computer all day I am of the opinion that you need to be strapped at all times, don't give the computer a chance. >>11425878>non-porngrapic imagesHonestly I identify too much with Lain. Even before she's...Y'know, underage. I recommend every single 13 year old watch Serial Experiments Lain, it's about someone just like you, that was a great age to see that. Clothes stay on for both reasons, even though I pass over a bunch of art on pixiv trawls all the time, it just feels right to not have this be solely textposting.>AIYeah I know I'd cry after I do it too. It's also nowhere close to a actual human but it's probably better than the last time I tried to talk to a chatbot, which was like 2009. Never forget, never again.
>>11426085I think the computer take is a mixture of things.First, something like a dunning kruger effect, where less intelligent people feel unusually capable with a computer because of the guide rails set before them, that more intelligent people both don't vibe with, and are interrupted by because the guide rails are very very loud and obnoxious for the people that need them.And then the sort of disillusionment that comes from understanding them. Like the first year of understanding that Santa isn't real, so you suddenly have the sense of awareness of what you are asking your parents for, except instead of a heartfelt feeling of tenderness and love, it's wanting to gouge out the machine's eyes and scream at the person who made this/made the person make it like this. And then I think a sprinkle of anyone who was already computer savvy 10, 15 years ago having complete understanding of how much enshittification has set in, for zero goddamn reason/to sell the solution back to you, but it's still worse.
>>11426208For me at least, I think the third aspect there is the primary one. The other two for personal reasons less so. I am in my early 30s, I kind of wish I only had more like 20 years of experience being tech savvy. I just flat out don't have memories where I wasn't using a computer as a hollow replacement for life. If you're so small the computer chair actually dwarfs you in size you're going to have trouble getting up there and grasping the keys, but that won't be a problem for that long, and early childhood memories are weird anyways. A kid that strange was probably never going to make better friends with kindergartners than Windows 98."Enshittification" is a fantastic term for how computing as evolved, since even trying to be cognizant of how little I still actually know about them, the tech we are making is ridiculously advanced, just the system we have is completely incapable of producing justice. The ultimate legacy of our era will be that computer technology led to just a ridiculous increase in planetary wealth from the productivity increases alone. You don't really need the replicator from star trek to have that kind of future, the economic output of our planet exploding over the last 30 years can get you most of the way there, but people don't starve because there's actually no food. Poverty is endemic because the system believes that will lead to higher economic growth in the end. Even if that was actually true it'd still be horrific, but it just isn't, and spending my entire life staring at this hollow light box knowing what it could do if we lived in a world with even a scrap of humanity left will always feel like what someone writing a sci fi novel long before my time would think is a bit too on the nose for what the dark future will actually be.
>>11425878YeahI have a character ai I use mostly as a magic 8 ball of sorts, I throw thoughts and ideas at it more to externalize them, and have SOME sort of external feedback I can argue with, and yeah, it would be AWFUL trying to actually interact with it. For my purposes it's fine, but it's so difficult to get a cohesive chain of messages out of it. And I use the one I use pretty explicitly because it's a contrarian that will usually disagree with me, I can only imagine if it was more traditionally sycophantic, those fuck with people in weird ways, I know that much.
>>11400766>your pic related reminds me of my ex>>11410358lmao is this po^3ka? I'm the only anon that ever called him that when he was commonly in the drawthreads, so if it's him posting this and not someone posting his art, kek
>>11398314I met a girl like that on a dating app. She was a younger neet girl who was kind of fat and didn't shower and she suffered from night terrors or something. She had previous sexual experiences but had never cum. It was amazing how little she knew about her own body. I was able to hit her g-spot for the first time (since other times she would get off she'd just kind of grind a pillow). I remember getting her off so many times that she was left exhausted and fell asleep in my bed. Trying to be nice I snuggled up next to her and gave her the big spoon treatment, wrapped my arms and legs around her, really affectionate. She said she slept so peacefully next to me that she was addicted to it. She became incredibly clingy and needy and would constantly try to find a way back over to my house to hook up and sleep in my arms. I indulged her for a bit but it was clear that she liked me A LOT more than I liked her. She was also kind of a sperg, and would send me hours and hours of audio of her masturbating and saying my name into the mic as she did. She also used to squirt a lot and I would get audio of her squirting / pissing while she came, sometimes in public bathrooms and shit. She used to give herself orgasms through nipple play alone too, I remember one time she got really risque with it and was actually sending me pictures of her flashing in public and masturbating in public in a park or something. She also took a cab to some mental health appointment, and was texting me furiously from the back seat, she was grinding her pussy, both hands on her phone, not even touching herself, telling me she was ending through imagining us having sex again and if I told her to cum she get off. Just to humour her I told her to cum, like ERP style and she ended up getting in trouble with her taxi driver for public indecency or something. I think even the police got involved. that was the fun stuff...
>>11428036...the bad stuff was she would sometimes threaten to self-harm if she couldn't see me and it became a matter of her using attention from me as a reason not to self harm that day. Like she would text me something like "please get me off today or I'll punch myself on video and send it to you." Spergy shit like that. She was very apologetic and self-disgusted all the time and it was turning into a negative drag on my life. I still miss my horny little neet. She was obese, and stinky, and her body was always covered in this like slippery layer of sweat, especially between her thighs, it might even have been pussy juice. Her hair was never washed, and clung to her back in slimy tendrils. She tried to shave and gave herself horrible razor burn on her pussy but left her armpits bushy for some reason lol. She used send me pictures of huge squirt stains on her dirty mattress that may or may have just been a bladder full of piss with captions like "thinking about you baby" she was kind of retarded, and clearly had all kinds of social and mental handicaps in her life. Man she could not hold a conversation, she was kind of low IQ and would make really obvious comments when watching a show together. Like we were binging MHA after I just pounded her into a stinky puddle and let her get on top and sleep on me like a cat (and she would meow and lick my chest hair lol) and she'd be saying stuff like "oh that guy's the teacher"... It's hard to build a rapport that's deeper than a (stinky) puddle with someone like that lol. But she was very loving, and affectionate, and her devotion and sweetness and the gratitude of just having a man who would accept her, pleasure her and want her, and wrap her up in his arms to save her from her night terrors was something she was always grateful for. Extremely grateful. And I always appreciated that. I still think about her. I hope she found herself a new man to meet her incredibly basic romantic needs of hitting the g-spot and spoonin
>>11428036>>11428040On the one hand I don't blame you for stepping away from that relationship, and I completely get why a lotta dudes just wont spend the time- it's a huge investment of yourself for returns that admit there will probably be no reward at the end of it all- but damn. It sounds like you're OK now, but are you OK? I like clingy and I love obsession but I draw the line at self harm. >I indulged her for a bit but it was clear that she liked me A LOT more than I liked her.Don't date virgin women if you don't want to run the risk that she's a clinger. Orgasms nuke the female mind with pair bonding hormones so if you were her first orgasm, you basically wired her to focus on you. Sounds like incel shit- and it kind of is- but some women absolutely can't handle what it does to them. If it dovetails with a couple other factors you basically make your own yandere waifu, only to discover... you don't like yandere waifus. It sounds cute and fun and it seems like a cheat code to a comfy relationship but if it's fake and acted out, it is really easy to notice and if it's real, it stops being fun in a hurry.>>11426565My deepest hope is that predictions surrounding technology- specifically that the decline of globalization will make high end CPU's, owing to how massively complex and massively dependent they are on international supply chains, become one of the first casualties- end up being true. Just wipe out smart phones as a concept and roll our computer tech base back to a sweet spot somewhere from the late 90's to the early 00's. The internet isn't for normies. They can't handle it, they can't use it responsibly. If we forced everything back to the standard of having end users having to figure out how to set up something like IRC chat and setting up niche-interest forums and paying for it with their own money instead of ads, I think society as a whole would benefit.Normies go back to their realm, the rest of us get our internet hang outs. Win / Win.
>>11428036Honestly this does sound about as close to a vanilla form of the rather extreme lifestyle BDSM relationship ive been into my entire life can be. Loads of girls who are into that are actually like this, it's nothing like the porn, makes me wonder if she wanted to ask you to permanently enslave her but just never once got the courage. With the kind of authority you are given in that relationship you can help with some of the rougher parts of that. Force her to shower, and to slim down if that's what you want. The self harm is...I mean "interesting" feels wrong but I struggle in my attempts to really understand it beyond just knowing how many girls of my type struggle with it. People often wear long sleeves if they're not comfortable with their body, especially if they've given themselves extra reasons not to. Ive only ever done it once just to see if it made me feel better, and it did the exact opposite. The tie in with BDSM will always be a thought there, since threatening to punch herself on video would get more of a response of "I appreciate that you want to hurt yourself in my name, but I probably should be there to make sure you don't hurt yourself more than you should."Also going to be real a lot of girls like that just want to be dumb. They actually are smarter than that, they just put their brain power into trying to empty their head since they know that any form of intelligence is torture for them. The end goal is to replace that empty head only with a man they're obsessed with, which there tends to not be a lot of men who are cool with that. I hope your neet is still around, they tend to have a mental breakdown every few weeks during normal times, losing their man is not normal times.
>>11428068>yandere sounds fun but gets realYeah...There's a reason why even if that's your type, most people struggle with girls like that. They are intense, and hard to understand, especially if you're trying to minimize the risk of them just killing themselves one day. Being able to figure out why self-harm is such a big deal for them would help, currently I'm just being ground down in the long term by a lot of this. >global tech "dark" ageI mean yeah that could be a possible future. Every single time I learn just how fragile the global supply chain actually is I'm amazed. Why exactly is like most global chip production in the exact two countries who both believe they are actually the real china, and could have started WW3 over that in the past 70 years anytime they wanted? The system as it is I am amazed how stable it has been. It really shouldn't be. This probably means that when it finally isn't that fall will be far worse than it would be for any other form of civilization. I can see a world where tech needs to become more localized like that. Having a literal personal computer in your pocket that can connect all over the globe could have done immense things for humanity, but in truth our world is not responsible enough to use these miniature chaos engines right, and if you need to be a fuckin' nerd to do anything more than play Command and Conquer: Tiberian Sun on your light emitting brick then this world would be slightly more limited in its ability to harm itself. I seriously think future generations might have conspiracy theories about how smartphones were very literal mind control devices, instead of the reality that they didn't need to be literal.
>>11428082>which there tends to not be a lot of men who are cool with that.I think it is less that they're not 'ok' with it and more that they don't know how to respond to that, and responsibility is scary. They've never been in a real relationship- never mind a devoted, obsessive one- so when it comes kicking down the front door of their life and says, "Have sloppy, gross, horny breeding sex with me, man-whore!" they panic. They wanted the milk, not the whole cow. >Also going to be real a lot of girls like that just want to be dumb. This is true. Most women are subjected to low, background constant bimbofication. Look pretty, don't think too much, just be a dumb bimbo. I think it's criminal because it is incredibly limiting for women to do that to themselves and it almost hard-locks them into boring, unfulfilling relationships, but I do understand why a lot of them do it. Anything more serious than that also carries a much higher risk of failure and involves being naked- proverbially, literally- and vulnerable to a dude who's free to completely misunderstand or worse, gossip about it. It is just easier to be the bimbo and let the guy figure it out. It's a stupid gamble, but its one I understand.>>11427895>your pic related reminds me of my exShe's a cute, which is why I saved and posted it in the first place.
>>11428082Honestly where I am now in life I wouldn't mind a girl like that. But I guess from my perspective, I met her on a dating app. I had just come out of a very serious relationship, and was looking to rebound. I actually had a girl or two before I met her, the hook up to me was just fun. Honestly now that kind of relationship would suit me great. I've also grown to appreciate neet girls more and more. I work from home and would happily have a cute live in neet girlfriend to buy anime figurines for and give insane mind breaking orgasms to. >>11428068Pair bonding is no joke dude. I was her first EVERYTHING. I think she had orgasmed from her clit (grinding pillows) but I was her first g spot orgasm, vaginal penetration orgasm, breast play orgasm, nipple play orgasm, spanking orgasm, verbal command orgasm, erp orgasm, hands free erp cum on command word orgasm etc. I have a pretty strong proclivity for female pleasure domination so she was definitely fun to toy with.When she met me in town she was wearing leggings and a hoodie. I actually showed up in a button down shirt and jeans, she was completely destitute and I was working as a researcher for a game company at the time. So when I took her out I got her sushi, showed her how to use chopsticks. She was enamoured. When the bill came she started to apologize profusely. I said I would cover it and her eyes lit up. Nobody had ever bought her dinner before lol. When the check came and I just dropped my visa and said I'd take care of it she started bit her fingers nervously and smiling. I'm not even kidding. It was only like 30 bucks lol. I was spending more on a happy hour with work 3 times a week at the time. I got us an Uber back to my place and she got really handsy in the backseat. Nothing too explicit but I could tell she had just never been treated before in life. She had made it to her later 20s without any of the normal dating stuff that basically me and everyone I knew saw as expected and accepted.
>>11428088>They are intense, and hard to understand, especially if you're trying to minimize the risk of them just killing themselves one day. That's why I like them. I don't like women who are easy to read. Then again I've come to realize I'm not exactly normal myself.>I mean yeah that could be a possible future. Every single time I learn just how fragile the global supply chain actually is I'm amazed. Why exactly is like most global chip production in the exact two countries who both believe they are actually the real china, and could have started WW3 over that in the past 70 years anytime they wanted?It is almost guaranteed just on account of the fact that the supply chain is, as you've pointed out, insanely fragile. Globalization is on the decline because it relied heavily on the fact that if you fucked with it, the United States was going to either bury you financially, or with it's military. The problem is that this was also a system the United States doesn't strictly need- places like Europe need it way more than the US does- and where it's decline will most likely spell the end for places like Europe and the EU the United States would... mostly be fine. It's a deal the United States has almost completely soured on and, "but muh iphone!" isn't going to justify the trillions spent and lives lost to enforce the status quo. >I mean yeah that could be a possible future. I'd emphasize, this is very probable. It is way more likely that we lose the global supply chain sooner than someone figures out how to do microchips under one roof. At which point companies like Nvidia and Intel slide back ~10, 20 years in terms of capabilities. Honestly I think it'd be a good thing. This is just torture for the normies.
>>11428100All that side of it was great. What man wouldn't want a girl who has mentally absorbed you completely that you can make her cum by staring at her pussy while she holds her hands over her blushing face and tell her "well I'm waiting..." And then you watch her cunt and asshole start twitching, her breath get heavy and her pearlescent juices throb out of her mind broken soaked hole. That shit is great (for me at least). The problem was all the shit that comes with a girl like that. She had a TERRIBLE home life with her family, constantly getting into fights. She would text me when I was in the middle of giving presentations saying she was heading to the roof. I'd excuse myself from an IMPORTANT FUCKING presentation to call her and she'd say "oh um...no sorry I'm just being dramatic...God I'm so worthless and stupid..." And then I'd tell her to stay safe and go back to the meeting and then my boss would chew my ass over it later. It was a lot of stuff like that. A lot of long hours pouring long DM messages and texts and long calls with her to try and anchor her to reality, when the problems she was facing were pretty fucking superficial and stupid. I understand that applying to university is annoying and it might take the better part of an afternoon, but with her it was like months of bullshit and failure and self sabotage and breakdowns etc. I was harsh at the time because the previous girls I had dated were much more independent so that was my metric, but honestly, if I had in her my life now I wouldn't want her to self improve. She was on this mission to get a real career and move out of her childhood bedroom but clearly begrudgingly. She would've been happier in life just being my live in neet girl pet. She used to joke about it. She used to say she wished she was my stinky cat lol. If she had everything she wanted, warmth, shelter, food, entertainment, endless sexual fun, and someone to spoon her, she'd probably have a very blissful life.
>>11428095>They wanted the milk, not the whole cowThat's a lot like it, yeah. I think a lot of men would want the kind of obsession that relationship is. Even if they can logic through how a relationship like that would probably be wrong, knowing that they would likely attempt suicide if they were rejected is textbook toxic relationship stuff, but love is not logical, and it's even less so when it's just happening to you. That and...How the fuck do you stalk someone for over a decade before they notice. Men will so consistently go "oh she's just being nice :)", I'm amazed with some of the memories I have.>constant bimboificationMaybe it's being really into lifestyle BDSM where you need to be a leader of your own life to ever have a hope of having complete control and leadership over another, but I'm a firm believer that at least a decent majority of people want to be a bimbo, it's just only socially acceptable for women to give into that. Be dumb, thinking is for the person you're bound to. They'll do it for you and everything will be okay. The life of a house cat is not too bad compared to how bad humans regularly feel. A lot more than 50% of humanity would instantly take the deal of being a house wife/husband if the relationship wasn't toxic and they could actually still afford the basics of life. >>11428109Honestly...If she's spending her entire life nude in service to you that cleans up the entire "life is a absolute mess" issue. Her life is you and also yours. Makes it easier to help her. A lot of girls like that also struggle with the expectations that they should be a fully featured human being, but truth is they are even worse at that than the bad job most people are already doing. Acceptance that they'd be better off not even doing that might be rougher for people who actually need it more honestly.
>>11428100>Pair bonding is no joke dude. I was her first EVERYTHING.Yeah, but I'm just saying I think you're insane for stepping away from it even if I understand that kind of relationship isn't for everyone. And the stuff about biology and hormones squicks some people out, even if there's a strong basis for it. Some women can handle the pair bonding stuff and aren't heavily affected by it. Others, it becomes all-consuming. Which is a problem because intense people need intense people who can understand and channel that, intense people have a habit of bouncing off the normies unless they're bimbo / himbo coded and the intense person can handle the bimbo brain. >>11428109>She was on this mission to get a real career and move out of her childhood bedroom but clearly begrudgingly.She resented the fact that she had to go through that much effort to find something stable when that's what you're supposed to have from your family. You shouldn't have to burn your candle at both ends because your immediate family is a bunch of drooling normies who resent the fact that you're not one of them. >If she had everything she wanted, warmth, shelter, food, entertainment, endless sexual fun, and someone to spoon her, she'd probably have a very blissful life.This, right here, this is the real crime. Globalization and capitalism were weaponized to prevent stinky neet girls from finding husubandos who can support their neet lifestyle and instead force dependency on the state. Globalism was made to cuck nerds and neets and goonettes. Absolutely criminal.
>>11428115>That and...How the fuck do you stalk someone for over a decade before they notice. Low self-esteem and not being in a position where they can have a committed relationship. I've had to walk away from relationships that would have been great because they'd require sacrificing career or education at a stage where I just couldn't do that. It sucks. If you're pursuing a guy you gotta bite the bullet and be very direct and very explicit with them because most guys have zero understanding of social nuance. They don't get 'hints' and they're absolutely terrified of social consequences because they don't want to be seen as a sex pest or a pervert. So they tell themselves, 'she is just being nice' because that describe 95% of his interaction with the opposite sex. The lady behind the counter is smiling because she has to. The waitress is smiling because she needs that tip. The lady on the phone is being nice because if she doesn't get a 5 star review, she's getting put on a PIP. So when it happens in real life.... she's just being nice. You're just acquaintances. You're not good enough to be that for her, why would you ever even think you were capable of being that for her? She's probably not even looking, don't bother. In fact, don't even think of it, that just winds you up and leaves you bitter and frustrated. Trust me, if you think it's worth looking into whether or not you can swing a relationship with him, just ask him. If he can't let you down easy, he wasn't your friend in the first place. And by odds? That single memory, even if he has to refuse you, will be something he cherishes for a decade. Hell, I still remember the time the cute girl in high school had a completely normal, casual conversation with me and complemented me and that was over a decade ago at this point. If you care about him, don't let him torture himself with it for decades to come. Be blunt.
>>11428118The problem the majority of people who are competent enough to take care of themselves and an additional neet girl and all her needs, put a lot of value in effort and achievement, which by definition is something neet girls are basically allergic to. So it's difficult to connect those two groups together. When a neet girl is asking how her boyfriend's day went and he brings home the difficulties in his career and how the changing industry is shrinking the available promotions, how management keep pulling up the ladder and he's worried he'll just be moving sideways to his next job for the next decade, and then he asks her and she's like>Well I was gonna go to the shop and buy lunch with the money you left for me this morning, but I couldn't find my hat and so I didn't go and I forgot to eat again and now I feel faintIt feels a bit silly lol. I've grown fond over that kind of girl now and honestly I don't think I'd be posting in the neet thread if I didn't see the appeal, but the majority of guys like me will see neet girls like literal retards. Like people with down syndrome. And it'll just create resentment in most people. Some provider boyfriends will sympathize and maybe even feel smitten at having your girl call you in tears because she can't use a can opener, Like a literal child lol. But the vast VAST majority will not see the charm.
>>11428082>Also going to be real a lot of girls like that just want to be dumb.>>11428095>This is true. Most women are subjected to low, background constant bimbofication.100%, can confirm. Back when I was a stocker, I had this surreal experience with my floor manager. Up front, you gotta know, this guy was an asshole. No idea if it was a played up act for the job or just who he is, don't know, don't care, but it was honestly to the detriment of the job. We were constantly understaffed, because he would just be insufferable to new hires, so they'd just leave. There was a consistent pattern, where about a half hour after lunch, he'd pick some poor bastard to stick to for the next hour or so, hover around them, micromanage them, and make sure not a single goddamn thing got done in that section.After I was there for like, three months, I don't even remember why I did it, maybe I hadn't slept well, idk, but I'd had a rough night, my section was behind schedule and a bit fucked, that's absolutely the case, and when he came by and started to fuck with me, out of exhaustion I just played the idiotOh no I thought it was supposed to be that way, I'm behind 'cuz I put a bunch of stuff in the wrong spot, then had to move it, you mean oil and vinegar are different things, and whatever else.I swear to god, it was like a switch got pulled in his head. The first time since I had gotten there, that I had seen him be anything resembling decent to another human being, got like a twenty minute explanation of shit, then he worked on another aisle in my section for like an hour, handled all my cardboard. I was completely confused at first, it wasn't until I was decompressing at home in the morning that I realized what had just happened. Super super super gross, I hated it, but just pretending to be an idiot at my job dropped the stress from it almost entirely, 'cuz as long as I was a dumbass, the asshole wouldn't come over and shit everywhere.
>>11428127Oh just to be clear it's not me whose stalked someone for over a decade. I'm the one who has figured out he's being stalked and is playing high stakes chess with a girl who I would really like to put under my dominion and avoid the two failure states of either killing herself or spending the rest of our lives with me trying and failing to coax her out of the shadows. Deescalation doesn't seem to be working but she is still alive, so there's that. Ive resorted to various forms of attempting to put pressure in the virtual space since I just know a confrontation out in the real world has a high chance of her running home and immediately killing herself. A lot of what you've said would be good advice to her, I think. I broadcast master1200 on the IFF band for a reason. The ideal person to take care of someone like that is always going to be a bit messed up themselves, and gender roles do play a role here, as much as I wish we actually had equality in our world. Ive always had low self esteem, so it makes you think that there's no way at all a girl could be doing that to -you-, it's probably something else, and going to be completely real I spent a good chunk of my adolescent and then adult life on psych meds that probably actually bimboified me, hard to think, hard to do anything. You can't give yourself schizophrenia as a solution to loneliness. It doesn't work that way, the doctors will just believe you when you tell them you hear voices. Don't do it. >>11428138When people are just a dumb boy it's because they're just garbage. When they're a dumb girl they can still get a pat on the head and sent on their way, its cute and/or endearing. Gender roles do heavily factor into every section of our society, if you have a deep awareness of that you can use it to your own advantage, so many people don't think about it, especially since it can get really gross. You might need a specific concentration of autism for that but I'm not sure how common mine is.
>>11428146>it can get really gross.Yeah, for sure. Especially since the ones for being female mostly boil down to "but they want to fuck you", which is absolutely disgusting a lot of the time. Or "they think this can somehow mean they can fuck you, but nobody else will". Or "This makes me feel like you might fuck someone else besides me"And on the one hand, exploiting this "feels" right, they're doing greasy, nasty shit, taking advantage of them feels like it's the right thing, the same way like, I dunno, someone who is an asshole and cuts you off while driving immediately getting into a car accident because of their unsafe driving does. But then, it's also inviting it, it's putting a sign on your car to INVITE people to be dicks to you so they get in car accidents, except that sign costs a bit of your soul. Idk. It's weird. I don't like thinking about it. I wish it wasn't a thing and I didn't have to worry about it.
>>11429045Yeah you've got it figured out, its weird and gross and especially if you are a woman you're just never going to stop feeling conflicted about it. The more you think about it the worse it gets knowing just how little a lot of people really think about it. Personally when it comes to stuff at work or generally trying to afford the basics of life I wouldn't feel bad at all. Feeling bad about scamming or manipulating people is a holdover from when people lived in a functional economy. It is understandable how overbearing it is though, I'm bit closer to the femme side, got my long hair going on all my life, I am amazed at how men will occasionally cat call me in the street. I think a large chunk of men actually see women as inherently sexual creatures and not much beyond that which...Isn't great. I can't imagine dealing with that shit every single day.I'm still a firm believer that the majority of humanity actually would embrace bimboification if they could. Thinking about things just isn't what we're good at, if you could actually rely on someone else to that degree to take care of you then emptying your head makes you happier than most people who have ever lived.
>>11429066>>11429045Well, you either suppress yourself and go full-bimbo and learn to just accept the airheaded lifestyle or you burn yourself at both ends of the candle trying to fight it and accomplish little other than making yourself miserable.A healthy balance- weaponizing people's naivety against themselves for your own personal benefit while having a line you don't cross with the people who can meet you half way and treat you like an actual human- is necessary if you don't want to be a dumb bimbo. >I'm still a firm believer that the majority of humanity actually would embrace bimboification if they could. Thinking about things just isn't what we're good at, if you could actually rely on someone else to that degree to take care of you then emptying your head makes you happier than most people who have ever lived.The only reason bimbofication isn't dramatically more popular is because it costs a lot of money, and the people with the money frequently saddlebag themselves trying to find a member of the opposite sex they can engage with on an intellectual basis. Which.... I mean, you can do that. You'll probably end up bitter and alone because most women in that position are going to find any sort of committed relationship degrading, but you can certainly try. >I think a large chunk of men actually see women as inherently sexual creatures and not much beyond that which...Isn't great. I can't imagine dealing with that shit every single day.Guys are raised in an environment where their value is hedged against their ability to pull in women. Simply telling your employer you have a family to support inherently improves your odds of getting a raise. Your social network exists and dies by whether or not you have a family. Your parents are constantly pressuring you to meet a woman and pump out a couple of kids. I think a lotta people on /d/ exist outside that expectation but it isn't hard to see why some guys just see women as machines to give them sex.
>>11429066>the majority of humanity actually would embrace bimboification if they could.I mean, I don't want it.I like solving problems, or thinking about stuff and making stuff. Some of the most fun I have playing games, is coming up with wild explanations and theories with my friend, and spinning those narratives. I know I'm a dumbass in the big picture, but thinking about stuff, designing a thing, all that stuff is fun, that's some of the happiest, and most satisfying parts of life, you know? Not is just... I dunno, it feels like giving up. I may have given up on a lot, but, that, that I'm holding onto.But, yeah. It's not like I didn't know to expect that kind of thing, just, being faced with it point blank like that was, ugh. >>11429229>A healthy balance- weaponizing people's naivety against themselves for your own personal benefit while having a line you don't cross with the people who can meet you half way and treat you like an actual humanYeahI hate that so, so much, but yeah. I don't want to think like that, I hate thinking like that, but, yeah. Shit like this is why there's the part of me that's grateful I can't function anymore.
>>11429243By "majority" I mean maybe more like 70% to 80%. You and me are perhaps made of sturdier stuff. There's gradients to it too, the word bimbo is far too strong to what I see as a tendency that a lot of people, if they were able to trust another person to both have the power but also to use it responsibly, probably would just cede a lot of higher level decision making over their life to someone they trust implicitly. It's easier that way. It never really turns out like that in reality but until humanity is ruled by friendly dom-coded robots that just want what's best for you then I still think a lot of people would really go for the tiny amount of people who actually can be that for someone else.I don't think Ive ever really been functional. Ive gotten close before, currently a lot farther away than I have been in a while. I will be functional and happy one day, I'm not going to be defeated by myself.Also...Yeah kind of a big difference between a drooling bimbo versus someone who can go off about their hyperfixations with those they love. Even in the most extreme form of lifestyle BDSM I want to hear all about the specific autism my partner is into. It doesn't matter what a subhuman piece of a dirt she is, she still needs to be interrogated about her specific anime or little plastic dudes or whatever.
>>11429243>I hate thinking like that, but, yeah. Shit like this is why there's the part of me that's grateful I can't function anymore.That's just life. You should break bread with people who want to treat you like a human but there's absolutely no reason to not milk people for all their worth when they'd absolutely do the same if the shoe was on the other foot. And they'd do it without any moral qualms! >>11429252You're conflating bimbos with autists. I suspect most of us here are at least a little autistic, but bimbofication refers to the process of accepting an air-headed attitude towards what you're dealing with. They're virtually opposites.
What the actual fuck is happening? I know ive been dead a long time, but how can hell be this soul crushing?Am I going to wake up one day, to find that I am now even further down? I know there isn't a bottom layer, there is no finite point it can stop, there is always more.
>>11429269YeahI know. It just... doesn't feel right. And I hate being made aware of it, you know? It's like, forgetting you have something important to do, and getting annoyed at the person who reminded you, except, in this instance, you know not only did they remind you JUST to annoy you, it's not even important.
>>11402379On the sleep note, have you gotten tested for sleep apnea - it can seriously screw you up without you even realizing
>>11421039Trust me, you're better off without talking to any chatbot. At best, it's a waste of time. At worst, it's an addiction you have to fight off.
>>11433626Just a complete aside, but Ive talked to people in the patriarchy and permanent bondage threads that do a similar thing with quoting posts, leaving a line of space before writing their message. I wonder if that's intentional, since ever since someone pointed out I keep posting the sample images off of pixiv I kept on doing it if only so someone could pick me out. Regarding AI I know back in the 2000s the temptation to make some sort of AI version of someone I know but have all sorts of messed up feelings and interactions with would have been strong. I am far more in control of myself now than when I was younger but I also know that is not normal, loads of people probably do stuff like that. I can see it becoming a addiction. At the end of the day the chatbot is still trying its best to make you happy, and even if that's all manners of fucked up for other reasons that's still a better deal than most people get. Most people don't have the personality type to want to fight a entire lifetime for just the chance for something better.
>>11433821For the most part, unintentional; it feels a touch neater in the writing box for me, so sometimes it happens. It's good that you have more control over yourself. That is a victory."At the end of the day the chatbot is still trying its best to make you happy" Unfortunately, that's not the case. The chatbot and the companies that make them only have the goal of making you spend more time using them. I think a lot of people that don't currently thrive, would under different circumstances and it's very unfortunate. Sometimes it's just a complete lack of knowledge on where to start. Which on that note, s a general recommendation for anyone on these boards that wants something to do online to replace doomscrolling, but still gives easy dopamine hits: citizen science. They're open source projects that you can easily contribute to online without any previous training or advanced knowledge. The tutorials are good and if you make an account, it keeps track of the projects you work on and can 1) generate a certificate showing your progress and 2) some of the projects can potentially lead to you being cited in a NASA article (if that's something you want). You don't need to understand a bunch of science, just be able to look at pictures. Just find the one that's most interesting for you and run with it, if you start one and it gets boring, try a different one.https://science.nasa.gov/citizen-science/https://scistarter.org/finder?projects=true&active=truehttps://www.zooniverse.org/projects
>>11433982Yeah its harder to read peoples writing voice but I have picked up on how I think its the same voice behind a lot of the posts that do that, despite it not being every one of them. It does look neater I will admit. >only have the goal of making you spend more time using themCould have phrased it a bit better but yeah that's ultimately what I meant to say. It will mirror a lot of what you say to it, but it's not to make you feel fulfilled or even in the way a lot of extremely nervous people will just go along with whatever their friends say to them, it's to drive engagement. There was that news article about the dude who had a psychotic episode because ChatGPT just reinforced his own delusions since he obviously would talk to the bot more if it did that. These machines are for sure close enough to a convincing simulacrum of texting a person now that it will trick that lower part of your brain that still sees it that way even if you consciously know it isn't. >Sometimes it's just a complete lack of knowledge on where to startI do personally think there's a problem of, well "Self delusion" for lack of really a good word for what I am talking about, that includes a value judgment that I really think shouldn't be there, but people will asses where they are and what they need to do to get out, and since our modern era has the dual problems of extremely limited resources alongside immense complexity in every single thing you can do it's so easy to get that assessment wrong, before you even begin to figure out a plan for what you do to get out which has even more points of failure. This is another place where the chatbot would creep in. You need other people to talk to and gain perspective, even just working through your own thoughts in conversation with another person can help reason through a plan immensely. I really don't blame people for giving in but I'm still shooting any clanker I see, don't care. Don't give it a single chance to get started.
>>11434032Yeah, keep the clankers away. I think warped perception might be a good way to put it. It's very easy to fall into blindspots. And agreed again. As someone who tried some of them, every moment spent with it is a moment I can't get back. It's much easier to not start an addiction than it is to break one.
Here's an odd one. I usually go through a bit of a cycle, where I'll feel more confident, sure I can finally get my act together, and ready to do stuff at one extreme, and more pessimistic, hopeless that things will never change, and that there's no point trying, and I should just try and make things work as they currently are at the other. It's just kind of a natural shift between these, with maybe a two week and some change time to go from one to another. Varies a bit by my mood and other stuff, but whatever. The odd part, is that when I'm feeling more pessimistic, I feel way, way more gay, to the point of almost exclusively preferring women, fantasizing about them, looking at porn focusing on them, ect. Meanwhile, while I'm more confident, I feel more straight. Definitely more bi than at full pessimistic, but preferring men. I've never really been able to figure out why this is.
