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I always like to see images of girls who are just as miserable and isolated as I am. I appreciate it, mutt. Last time I just posted Tomoko even if my brain is so bad at focusing that I can't even sit down and watch a anime to save my life, leading to a severe lack of actual context. I did manage to watch Lain 20 years ago though, and she always was more authentic to what this feels like.

Seeing those girls you posted and how they style themselves, the black hair, the skin tone I can best describe as "ghost", since you've rotted away already, I have seen a few girls like that. It makes me think about how I myself try my best to feel alive, especially as a man with the slider turned over to feminine just enough to care about how I look. Even when I am able to look at a human being face to face, there's this idea of still trying to come across as happy and alive, even if inside I feel exactly like your images. Maybe it would feel intimidating to a girl like this who really is my type, but idk, I can't surrender to that horror inside of me, and I always felt I was meant to take leadership to resist surrender for more than just myself.

BTW if anyone tells you they are actually authentically normal and happy all the time they are for sure a alien infiltration unit. Don't trust them. Misery gives you humanity.
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>>11397855
you deserve a hug anon
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>>11398204
Glad we're on the same page. You deserve one too, mutt.

>>11398205
Ive depression nested pretty hard before but I think my high score was still only 80% of the power of this image.

Even at 10% its still not great, but hey, jerking off all day is just all you're going to do.
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There was this one older kinda creepy girl who would constantly ask to hug me whenever she saw me in my early 20s.
She was in some sort of poly relationship but clearly found me cute, and we would have these long ass hugs where sometimes it basically felt like she was feeling me up.
This image reminds me of her.
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>>11398314
>touch starved, lonely
>especially want this boy I like though
>if I hug him constantly, I can at least have that
>what? Nah I'll shower and take care of myself properly when I am sane enough, hugs now, sanity later

I mean even if she was in that relationship I can feel that. Atleast she asked. Probably did a lot of other messed up stuff, but she learned that lesson at least. If that was a while ago I hope she learned more.
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>>11398431
nigga how tf can someone be "touch-starved" in a poly relationship??? she has both her hands in individual pots, and by hugging dude put her foot in another to simultaneously eat from that one, too
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>>11398541
Hey man I'm not this woman, idk. Seems weird to just randomly still try to hug people in such a extreme way so maybe that poly relationship was actually online or long distance or actually with 3 other women who were all Hatsune Miku.
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>>11398541
Most of the times the "Poly" bullshit is just an excuse for the Chad-Stacey of the relationship to openly cheat on the other partner with more attractive people, while keeping them in a leash for monetary satisfaction or as a reserve in case they don't find any good dick/pussy that season.

So thinking she was touch starved is not farfetched at all.
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>>11398545
well you can feel bad for the poly person if you want. i'm not trying to suggest that indulging a poly person's craving for intimacy is bad; i'm just saying that hearing of a poly person wanting lingering hugs and calling them "touch-starved" and "lonely" is crazy work. in my opinion
>>11398551
i've heard some polycule horror stories (most of them), but in my opinion, even if someone is a victim to the polycule menace, i am not going to assume that, because polygamy is founded on different values from monogamy in the first place, so i think i'd be projecting were i (as a monogamous person) to default to assuming poly = victim. so unless she moved across the country with no support system without her polycule, i should assume she just thinks poly is more of a good thing, and hugging dude is reflective of that
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>>11398564
That dudes probably going to be a bit weirded out by how much I read into the memories of his old weird friend, but idk, something about how uncomfortable he described it as being, alongside that image, made me think of her pushing out any doubts of how uncomfortable demanding that intimacy was making people, since at least it was something.

Hope she was able to learn from that. Have more interactions with human beings face to face to draw from. At least 7 of them, 7 is a good number.
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>>11398580
you know that "_master1200" filenames means you're saving the sample image, right??? unless the file size is too big to post, you're just fucking up
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>>11398658
Yeah the vast majority of the time I save the sample size. A lot of the images are actually too big to upload when getting the proper master, and the resolution is still good enough anyways. Best to just do that as a force of habit instead of going to upload stuff and having this forum dedicated to traditional tengri religious practices get mad that it's too big.
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>>11398676
i disagree that saving sample images is ever "best" nor "good enough", but different strokes, i guess
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>>11398680
I understand the desire to maximize the pixels in all circumstances but it was just too annoying to keep track of which images when saved in full would upload properly and which ones would get me a visit from lightning daddy Perun.

For your own collection of images pertaining to sad anime girls and pre-christian slavic mythology it'd be unwise to rely on trawling the forum to get the best but it doesn't bother me that much. I make sure I have hi res copies of my favourites anyways.
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>>11398703
i feel this convo has overstayed its welcome, so this'll be my last reply. if you want to save and repost sample images out of laziness, that is fine, but like i said, i disagree with the idea that sample image resolution can ever be considered "good enough", nor that defaulting to sample images (out of laziness) is somehow "best"

but because i was curious i found a pixiv that posted exclusively .pngs that i scraped recently (with gallery-dl), and filtering by file size (using "everything" by "voidtools"), of the 43 .pngs, all of them are <4mb (can be posted on /d/), and only a single one is >2mb (cannot be posted on /b/; maybe other boards, but i don't know which boards share /b/'s 2mb file size limit):
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/114985975
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then i figured, maybe it's cheating, because this artist doesn't draw backgrounds. and .pngs are good with large areas of the same color. i found another one:
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/10035446

of their 125 images, 65 are jpegs, all under 4mb. 24/60 of the .pngs are over 4mb. but this is definitely not standard. i just checked cham22's pixiv anyway, and i only have about half of it on this hard drive, but literally none (but the ugoira) were over 4mb, but cham22 doesn't draw backgrounds, i guess. i also half about half of taigerarts' pixiv on this hard drive, and only a single one is over 4mb:
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/24043865
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/132215172

but i guess taigerarts doesn't tend to draw backgrounds, either. but either way, i think you're full of it. sorry. i do not think it is reasonable to assume that every pic is absudres and >4mb, therefore everything indiscriminately should be a sample image. you could just say you're lazy and leave it at that
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>>11398710
Oh no I am for sure lazy. Don't get me wrong. Like its not that many, but the first time a above 4 MB image did me in that was it. I just save shit into a big pile that I occasionally pull from too, like a caveman who barely understands what a computer is. I'm still getting used to things not being abacus based.

I appreciate how much suboptimal pixels clearly upset you, this is the place and the thread for it, just sorry that me being clearly a techno barbarian in how lazy I am with those pixels sets it off like crazy.
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>>11398713
>There was a HOLE here.
>It's gone now.
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Does anyone else cry because they can't be a young NEET girl forever? I wanna go back I want to enjoy the comfy times forever
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>>11400091
All good things must eventually end. Best advice is to find like-minded neets.

>>11398541
She was the third wheel but for one reason or another wouldn't end things. Poly relationships are usually just 'grass is always greener on the other side' in practice.
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>>11400131
>All good things must eventually end.
You don't understand how it hurts. I'm genuinely sobbing. An actual flood of emotion that causes me to scream and cry at once
I never even got to enjoy it to it's fullest in the first place.
>Best advice is to find like-minded neets.
I'm not even a NEET anymore.
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>>11400554
There just isn't a satisfactory answer to how to not be upset about growing old, especially as a girl. The only way I think to truly defeat it would be to have partners and friends accept you unconditionally in a extreme way, but identifying with the sad anime girls means you aren't doing too good in that area.

The past few months Ive had long crys for the first time in years. If its any consolation, it's not just you. Maybe it'll make you feel 0.5% better having a threadbare connection to a internet stranger who is also upset about being in his early 30s. Maybe 0.3%?
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>>11400580
>There just isn't a satisfactory answer to how to not be upset about growing old
Usually it's just numb but then something happens that reminds me about being a kid again and then it sets me off and I start crying uncontrollably
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>>11400606
...Yeah, even the culture of the time, especially if you haven't seen it in a while, its flashing back to how much you've lost by not ever doing anything. Hope my lain pictures aren't doing that right now, I personally look shellshocked whenever I see our old friend Windows XP.
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>>11400608
>...Yeah, even the culture of the time, especially if you haven't seen it in a while,
I have nostalgia for even just 3 or 4 years ago. The last 2 years just feel cursed
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>>11400665
When every year is worse than the last, it's just mathematical to feel nostalgia for 2021, however utterly cursed that statement is.

(Also Tomoko is happening, do not resist)
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>>11400674
>feel nostalgia for 2021, however utterly cursed that statement is.
Yeah, I think around 2022 was when life started feeling off for me
>(Also Tomoko is happening, do not resist)
Idk what that even means
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>>11400683
It was always just a slow grind down for me, makes the years going on even worse. Did something particularly bad happen for you in 2022? It never really...Peaked that much for me.

>Idk what that even means
I had a cache of Lain images I was posting, now I found some Tomoko ones.

Just have a bit of a complex about attempting to post images alongside my posts whenever I can, nothing more.
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>>11398314
There was one girl in my major who would hug me almost every Tuesday and Thursday for like a year and a half.
I think I probably would have an heroed if it wasn't for her
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>>11400721
Yeah...Looking back, it's not hard to imagine what not getting that bare minimum physical affection would have done. It's been a while for me, it's pretty rough.

I actually do go on walks every Tuesday and Thursday, for about 20 minutes. Even if I increasingly feel uncomfortable in my own skin in this world trying to go out and see what things look like is invaluable as a touching grass expedition. Helps you attempt to stay grounded, and also just helps you not do the same day every day. There's a reason why it feels like time has stood still despite it being years.
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>>11400724
Subjective time moves faster when it's buried in routines.
>>11400699
COVID turned the gradual realization that the mid-to-tail-end of the millennial generation and older zoomers were getting old into a sack of bricks. Your 30's are a weird time because you're too old to be young and too young to be old, but instead of a somewhat graceful transition you went into COVID in your late 20's or early 30's and came out... old. And despite having a golden opportunity to try and reinvent yourself you squandered it, probably on stupid stuff. Speaking from personal experience.
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>>11400554
Growing old is what you make of it. It is a massive privilege most people aren't afforded, but it is also a reflection of the life you've lived. It is also why it is so damn important to have meaningful social connections. COVID utterly obliterated my social life- my best friend died and it made me realize the people who were calling me friend were absolutely not. I'm pretty introverted but isolation goes from an oasis to a prison pretty quick when it isn't counter balanced with meaningful social engagement.
All of which is to say that you shouldn't beat yourself up too much. You can scorn your past self but you made decisions that made sense at the time and if you had the option to go back, you'd do it all over again. Change sucks and it involves forgiving yourself for your past decisions and conceding that you're a giant fucking loser but being self critical turns into self loathing real fast. And doing what you've been doing will only bring you were you've already been.
Not gonna wish you happiness but I hope you find whatever you're looking for.
>I'm not even a NEET anymore.
NEET is a mindset. Especially when you're not 23. The reality is that most people wont get 'tism bucks and financial realities don't let you be unemployed forever.
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To be told that Ive been dead for a long time and this is actually hell would be ultimately vindicating. Clearly something has gone deeply wrong on this planet, this isn't living. To know that for sure would harden me even more to live for even a single day, even if it takes 80 years.
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I wish women like this existed.
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>>11401507
They do, just living this way as a girl must crush your soul even more. There's just not a lot of other ways to explain my interactions with them.
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>>11401649
Why would it crush their souls? They're getting pampered and spoiled at home
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>>11401660
It's not the worst. Getting autismbucks you can occasionally order doordash to feel slightly better. Sure, monthly rent is 150% of your income, but disability isn't meant to keep people alive. If you have family to support you then it's not the worst, plenty of people don't and aren't capable of complaining anymore.

Trying to rise above that with death hanging over you is hard enough, but since you do often want to interact with people similar to you that's part of why I think being a girl helps you just give up and retreat to the neetcave. I'd describe my view on feminism as "There are infact differences between men and women and I'm really mad about it", even at a basic level everyone treats you differently as a girl. There's this culture that you're the one that people will fight to break through the isolation and misery for, which makes it even more soul crushing when you still need to try and you don't. Best to just rot with your own feelings rather than face your friends that you think you've failed.

There's someone who posted around here a while ago, possibly years, talking about how she is seeing her friends for the first time in 6 years. She posted a update after a while that it fell through and she still is trapped in the neetcave, but I remember that since 6 years is a long time, made me feel better that she still isn't dead. Ive got a long time to go before someone I know reaches that high score but the idea that I can still one day pull them back even after that long stuck with me. So long as you are still technically alive, you can still one day see a human being face to face.
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>>11401691
I suppose girls may worry about social expectations more. However, she must at least lead a happy life if she can't change. Taxes fund neetbucks, it would be a waste not to enjoy it. If my food is stolen, I would rather have the thief like it than that they throw it away
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>>11401864
I much prefer when people freak out about getting robbed, actually. It means you're getting something good, you didn't bring the parabellum for nothing.

Nah honestly idk if you're trying to get a rise out of me but you're fine. You got any more images of anime women playing Nintendo consoles? It'd be a real shame if something were to happen to your virtual boy...
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>You got any more images of anime women playing Nintendo consoles?
Maybe
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>>11401899
I mean I guess that'll do. I tried to look at your virtual boy before I swiped it but now I can't see anything anymore. I'm sure those girls are cute though. Put the anime in the bag and nobody has to lose today.

As far as the neet experience goes I do wonder how many people also do drugs to deal with that. My autism is far too powerful to ever be defeated by drugs but the cultural shift around weed where I live has been absurd. Can stare at a wall and get assistance with disassociating all day without the anxiety. I do use take-out food a bit like that but I prefer my drugs to be prohibitively expensive and also slowly kill you while not smelling as bad.
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>>11401507
I mean
I do
It sucks
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>>11401937
Yes.

Idk why people think that just because girl neets don't go outside they don't exist. Boy neets go outside the exact same amount, baka.
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>>11401956
I had no idea 4chan had that word filter. Waow.

I could look up which ones are in effect but its more fun if I don't and just randomly stumble into them.
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>>11397855
i hope you're able to find some level of happiness, even if it is fleeting, today. from one ghost to another i wish you all the best, anon
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>>11401965
I appreciate it, fellow ghost. If only the ghosts I do know understood just how much I get stuck on them. I wish you all the best aswell, anon.
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>>11401956
I guess, I try and put myself together when I do go out, so it's not like I exactly *look* like a neet when I'm outside
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>>11402003
Yeah if you go outside lacking in hygiene and stuff like that it brings the misery inside your soul to the forefront. Need to struggle at that and try your best, especially when its rare to go outside, it's a good opportunity to show the world what you want to be one day.

Honestly even if I'm struggling a lot more now Ive pushed to be a lot more ontop of that. Not been dumb enough to go outside not having showered in a while, although I swear my hair has a mind of its own with how many new problems its having. It wants to become like picrel, and will fight me in hand to hand combat to get there.
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>>11402011
For me it's a bit different.
I wasn't always this bad, I actually did have and hold down a job for like three, four years. Got a bachelor's. I have the memory of how to function. I just don't have the energy anymore.
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>>11402019
The memories of having been alive, once. I would like to hope they can motivate you to reclaim that one day, but I have a feeling they would torture you further. I suspect they would for me.

The exhaustion, I already spend hours every night flashing back.
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>>11402023
I wish I could.
I have no idea what's wrong, no amount of blood work or physicals have found anything. I'm just constantly exhausted, and even small exertions put me out of commission for a day or two.
I helped a less functioning friend of mine clean their apartment about a month ago. They had let their fridge completely go, and had just let fast food containers and stuff build up in the living room, it was awful. They live on the second floor of an apartment complex, and going up and down those stairs to get the 20 some odd bags of trash down to the cans wiped me out for seriously a week, my legs STILL hurt a bit from it. At least a part of it is just I'm older now, but, it's not been a normal experience. My parents both have more endurance and ability to recover from things, and my dad's almost 60. I'm not even THAT out of shape. Just overweight, not even obese. That's entirely on the back of not being able to do things anymore, too. I used to be in good shape. When it started I was in relatively good condition, 'cuz my job was sorta physical. Stocking.

I have the memory of functioning, and the desire to do so. I know how to do things, I feel the need to do things. I'm just so fucking tired, constantly. I'll sleep 10, 12 hours, and wake up tired. Towards the end when I was working, I had gone down to three days a week, all I could do, and my first day off, I'd sleep for like 16 hours, wake up for like three, then go back to sleep for another 4-8. I hate that I can't do anything anymore. I hate that I'll wake up more tired than I went to bed. I hate that doing moderately straining things I used to be able to do without a thought will have me in pain for a week.
I can't even masturbate properly. Cumming makes my legs clench in a way that I'll feel for a few days. I'm too tired to do it at night, and doing it in the morning kills anything else I could do during the day, and using anything besides my fingers or an external vibe leaves me sore for days.
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>>11402379
I...Honestly just feel your pain. My issues with fatigue and exhaustion are nowhere near that bad, not even close, today I felt maybe 10% of what you do. From one internet stranger and/or ghost to another, I just want you to know that while I will never claim to understand what life like that is truly like, the just sheer despair in what you posted is something that I feel deeply. Spending all this time in bed as the world passes you by, the sheer despair knowing that you tried to do something and yet your limited time was not enough. The pain on your body is...I just hope you're able to find peace one day.

If anyone has ever told you you're too negative or something and are just heaping your trauma onto people then that's a pile of complete bullshit since having to live that way is a pile of complete bullshit. Fuck that. If you're regularly suffering that much I don't care what you do to stick around.
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>>11402729
Thank you. It is too much though, especially out of nowhere like this, sorry for that. Just feels good to complain a bit, and feel a bit heard, even if it's probably a buzz kill.
I'm stubborn as fuck so that's not really a concern, and it's not like there aren't nice ways to pass the time. And there's the part of me that's very aware and grateful I have support from my parents, and a few very good friends, to be able to exist in relative comfort like this. I can't imagine going through something like this actually alone. Just, getting to complain a bit is nice.
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>>11403177
Nah man. Ive got a sleep disorder problem that is life long and seemingly also unsolvable. It might max out at 10% of that power honestly. Exactly enough to know just how awful it would be to have to live that way, even if you were screaming every single second you're alive that'd still be acceptable. I don't care, that's some extreme bullshit to have to deal with every day. Vent wherever and however you need, even in the part of the internet about sad anime girls.
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>>11403118
poor sick girl has no tits
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>>11404868
Great aren't they?
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I've been away from these threads for a while (because I think hanging around them was bad for my mental health), but I kinda missed them.
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There was a period of me being terrified about becoming a NEET when I was older after a particularly shut in summer, now I've become a hikki whose weekly "outing" usually consists of sitting alone in a quiet section of my favorite park
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>>11407292
Being on this site is already detrimental for your mental health anon.
I've been trying to stop too, but being dead honest with you, I just got nowhere else to go.
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Neet girls are the cutest
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I love huge babies.
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>>11407582
Yeah
I used to use it a bit years ago, in a much more limited form. I'd get a new game or watch a show or something, and find threads about it, since that was usually better and less... I guess I'd say, intensive, than talking about it anywhere else. More as an accessory to enjoying a thing, than a primary thing I would do. Sure, every now and then I'd shitpost a bit or argue about something, and I've liked using the red boards to talk about things I can't talk about anywhere else since forever.
But it wasn't until I started my decline that I ever started using 4chan as a primary activity, and substitute for actually doing things.
And it's absolutely not healthy. I FEEL the way my mind gets hooked into shit I don't care about, or get anxious about missing a thread that will be there now, later, or ij a year anyways. And worst of all, I know it's not healthy, but I still do it.
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>>11405294
Yes. It's adorable and hot as well. Maybe they really didn't had much curves first, probably felt unsexy compared to rest of her classmates, ended up wearing baggy clothes anyway so even when she blossomed at least in chest area she remained nerdy, neet dork. Then the bomb drops as she starts undressing and bummm her massive tits are out. Maybe she is now ashamed of them being so ugly and grotesquely large
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>>11408365
It isn't unhealthy. Your way of engaging with it is unhealthy. Set some modest limits- don't linger on a thread, see what you want, make your posts, move on for the day- and you'll be fine. That and have high-investment social relationships rather than talking to random internet strangers, which is the polar opposite of it. The problem is when people start treating 4chan as a replacement for meaningful human engagement when everyone here is a stranger who owes you nothing and expects nothing from you.
>>11407581
>>11403118
Completely perfect.
>>11402379
At a glance, have you had your rT3 levels checked? Doctors will frequently request TSH tests for your thyroid but T3 / T4 / Free T3 / Free T4 and rT3 tests will often fly under the radar and many doctors don't understand that thyroid issues can crop up with seemingly 'normal' TSH when it's as low as 2 and doctors are getting scores back hanging around 5. Thyroid is complicated and most doctors can't be arsed to figure it out because it's also one of the more frequently over-reported meme issues. So they run the cheapest, quickest test, misunderstand the results because it lacks context and proclaim it can't be your thyroid.

Otherwise, just how clean is your living space? How old is your mattress? Over-exposure to environmental mold (dust mites, mildew...) can suck the life out of you and if you're not sensitive to it, it'll frequently fly under the radar. Tons of seemingly weird stuff- like an over-accumulation of polyester clothing and bed sheets, over-consumption of industrial food- can all accumulate into an environment designed to kill your energy levels.
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One chance at life and I am a wagie moid instead of a neet foid.
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>>11408365
Hey you're right to understand that this is a horrific facsimile of human interaction but in terms of how to do better than that I just don't know. A lot of the ways Ive conned myself into settling with this life are extremely personal, as I imagine they are to you. If there was a foolproof way to feel better than this you wouldn't be here, nor would anyone.

I like when I look at the anime girl and she's just as sad as I am. That's nice atleast.
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>>11408405
idk but i feel like she wants to die posing like that. Like she is super emberassed but doing it for her fans and not hating it. It's just after posting it, she would plant her face into the pillow and screen "FUCKING HELL I WANT TO DIE, WHY DID I POST IT AAAARRRRGGHHHHHHH"
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Games are the best
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>>11408405
>Otherwise, just how clean is your living space? How old is your mattress? Over-exposure to environmental mold (dust mites, mildew...) can suck the life out of you and if you're not sensitive to it, it'll frequently fly under the radar.
Pretty clean, I think. Lotta dust, that accumulates quickly 'cuz high desert, but otherwise pretty clean, and it's so dry most of the year there's no real mold growth anywhere there's not active running water. Probably a bit less than reccomended for bedding and mattress cleaning and changes, but, I stay on top of it. Daily showers, sometimes two if I've feeling especially shit. Cleanliness is just about the only thing I still do maintain. Food-wise I can be a bit swingy by week, but I think I mostly do pretty well there, too. Mostly fresh meat and veggies, my pressure cooker is my best friend, since I can do big cooks that last a few days. Curry is easy like that, pot roasts, ribs, carnitas, refried beans, that kind of stuff. I used to be a lot more varied, that much I do know, but, making tons of dishes or too much ingredient prep is just exhausting.
I'll research the thyroid stuff. Worth a shot at any rate, I think I have my next checkup in a few weeks, can't hurt to add something else on.
Clothing wise, idk. Mostly I live in tank tops & sleep shorts, or sweaters & sweat pants by season these days. I have other stuff, just, if I'm not going out, I don't bother changing.

And yeah, that's definitely what it feels like for my 4chan usage. It's definitely more and more a surrogate for interaction. I'm trying a few strategies to moderate it, but, only slight success. I'm not as alone as some, I do have some people and try to get out once a week minimum on principle, but, it's still way easier to just do this.
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I've gotta stop jerking off so much. I'm doing it 3-4 times a day, which is always a sign I'm letting my life fall apart
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>>11409804
Should be doing it like 6-8 times a day, that'll sort things out.
>>11409645
Ever run a half-decent air quality scanner (so down to ~1 micron) for air quality? Mold is tenacious and I wouldn't assume that just because you live in a place that's only not a desert by about an inch or two of rain annually that you don't have any.
>I'll research the thyroid stuff. Worth a shot at any rate, I think I have my next checkup in a few weeks, can't hurt to add something else on.
When doctors run out of ideas and rule out the obvious signs of thyroid cancer / conditions, diabetes and sleep disorders they tend to run out of ideas. Diagnosing a thyroid is half an art so a lot of them wont even understand what they're looking at.
>Clothing wise, idk. Mostly I live in tank tops & sleep shorts, or sweaters & sweat pants by season these days. I have other stuff, just, if I'm not going out, I don't bother changing.
It's more the material than the type. Polyester is common and should generally be avoided. Both in terms of wearing it but also because the simple act of laundering polyester clothes exposes you to crazy amounts of meme micro plastics.
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>>11409820
>Should be doing it like 6-8 times a day, that'll sort things out.
I'm scared of doing damage to my dick. I was was unable to maintain and erection and it scared me so bad I didn't jerk off for a week
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>neet thread
>it's only females
i hate this shit, women can't be lonely
retarded thread
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>>11401937
trannies don't count
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>>11410358
Sorry anon. I only want a female neet housepet to take care of, molest and love
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>>11410358
There is no love for boys.
A woman will never write a love letter for man as they are super defensive and we just a bunch for creepy bastards on their head.
Sorry.
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every board I visit has it's venting doomer thread, is it a sign of recession or am I just that fucked?
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>>11410358
Sobbing. Girls are cute
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>>11410624
Not true. Love letters are childish and dumb and women are more likely to write them to guys they actually like. It's actually a girly thing (hence a bad idea to write them as a guy anyway).
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>>11410358
The endless onslaught of men who generally don't have the emotional maturity to be in a relationship but absolutely want and feel entitled to sex can be isolating for women. Especially when it makes them a target for other women. You have to second-guess the intentions of every man because they frequently wont even know when they're lying to themselves, and a ton of women will treat you like you don't exist because you being a NEET means you're of no value to them.
You can absolutely make a neet lifestyle work for you and you can absolutely achieve a healthy life balance without completely abandoning the things you love but you will have to be willing to endure the uncertainty of change. Sorry that you're lonely, but the person who can fix that is you. It is rarely pleasant but the first thing you have to accept is that if you want to move into a (hopefully) better tomorrow you have to first be willing to sacrifice the things that make you comfortable now.
Of course the author for Welcome to the NHK did sheepishly admit that after he made his money he proceeded to spend the next decade living off that money being a shut in neet again.
>>11411020
People can't find the satisfaction they want in real life so they go to places that make them feel comfortable to vent about it. 4chan users are overwhelmingly going to be the type who wants a nerdy dork girlfriend who they can engage with on an emotional level and also has a strong sexual appetite and doesn't judge them for wanting to huff her arm pits and kiss at her neck in between borderline autistic conversations about obscure ephemera.
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>>11411020
I posit that there's a contingent of "older" 4channers aged 26-36 who've been browsing this website for 10-15 years, and they never really aged out of daily use. The world has changed too much for them and they feel even more out of place now, so they spend too much time here. I'm not saying you should never use this site, but if you have a reasonably healthy social life, if you've got a couple hobbies you enjoying putting effort towards, if you're taking care of yourself, you probably don't need to visit this place that often. Or at least, you don't need to spend more than 15 minutes a day here. But unfortunately lots of Anons don't have friends, their jobs are crap (if they even have any), and they don't have much of a reason to get up in the morning. It's compounded by the thought that even if they did take strides to improve themselves, it'd take so long to see the fruits of that effort that they may as well not bother. It's a bad notion, because unless you're going to be dead in a few years, you'll probably enjoy the fruits of 3-5 years of self improvement for an additional 40. That said, if your goal is to get a girlfriend, you're kind of fucked if you're ugly and over 30.

But this is just my two cents as an honest coomer. Just vibes mixed in with a little projection.
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>>11412628
I think there's some good thoughts here. Alongside the person talking about how women are also sad just in ways even harder for equally sad men to understand. Probably projecting a lot too but I legitimately lurked for years before actually posting was the least bad of a lot of bad options.

4chan is like a holding pattern or some form of purgatory for millennials. I will say especially since if you're getting in on 30 now and the world feels even more alien now that the memories of CRT screens are completely faded then your status as a unfuckable goblin is way less real than you'd expect. I get it, you're self conscious since being out in the world is even harder as the years pile up, but if you've got the kind of sexuality where you are extremely attracted to the opposite sex, think about how high your standards actually would be for someone attempting to interact with you, and then think about you being in that position, just reversed. Like yeah if you're a boy for a variety of reasons girls are treated way differently by society but they're just as fucked up and sad as you are, it's the human condition, they think they're unfuckable goblins and long to return when things were slightly less horrible in the 2000s too. Your vision of how horrible you are is such a difficult task to reflect in reality that you probably aren't actually doing it.
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damn i hate my mind sometimes
Another social post about le women strong for wearing high heels and fucking up le feet or putting on heavy make up that takes hours to prepare.
Forcing a girl like that to abandon wearing high heels, to stop her from putting on make ups. To see her initally hate her "odd" and natural look, but gaslight her into enjoy it (i mean bags under eyes aren't that bad, i'm sure everyone got it from stress killing their sleep time or having stupid long shifts and hard to have a good night), then watch as she slowly accepts not trying to appeal to everyone or trying hard to fit into a society. Just relaxing, watching shows, sometimes going out. Not a total neetification, just removing her from stuffs that annoyed her, but was too strong headed to admit she didn't enjoy pushing herself so far to appear beautiful.
stupid dumb fantasies
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>>11412628
>That said, if your goal is to get a girlfriend, you're kind of fucked if you're ugly and over 30.
Incels massively over-estimate just how ugly they actually are. 95% of it is people who want to justify inaction and not even trying because their current life- hell that it is- is still more comfortable in their minds than the risk of actually investing themselves in something that doesn't have guaranteed returns. Attraction is complicated and as long as you're not some Quasimodo looking ass, you've got a ton of cards to play. Generic physical attraction is only one of them, and most women can't even articulate what they really want.
>>11412645
I think it is more that you got a bunch of Millennials who are malding out because COVID made that transition from adulthood to middle ages less of a transition and more like a train accident. The people who thought they always had more time to figure it out realized they don't. That makes them angry and bitter.
>>11412651
Goblinification.
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>>11413654
>Covid
>Less a transition and more a trainwreck
Yeah...Hey I don't really consider the way ive lived really living to begin with. Makes me slightly less angry and bitter, if I get a single day of life I'd be happy, it's not like ive really lost that much.

The 2000s were still absolute hell, but if every year is worse than the last on a global scale and if we just flew off a fucking cliff in 2020 then longing for the days of Windows XP is a bit more than just nostalgia. Don't ever con yourself into thinking that things were actually good, they were just mathematically less bad. Especially when the computer was in a room in your house and we gave this totem of chaos the respect its power clearly deserves.

>Incels massively over-estimate just how ugly they actually are
Hey now that I'm not having a 2 AM crashout I think I can articulate what I'm going for with that kind of thought.

Being actually ugly on a physical level that you repulse everyone is a full time job, and being this sad is unemployed behaviour. I really doubt anyone is putting more effort into being ugly than they've managed to put anywhere else in their entire life.
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>>11413754
>I really doubt anyone is putting more effort into being ugly than they've managed to put anywhere else in their entire life.
'Ugly' is usually an absence of effort. Honestly it's usually bad socialization that's at fault. You got people with limited social experience and low social maturity who misunderstand why people don't want to be around them, take the worst advice from awful people and then when the reaction to them inflicting themselves on people who don't want to be around them, they think it's a design flaw at fault when they're looking for the wrong thing in the wrong places.
But if you're priming the pump and declaring you're an unfuckable old uggo, that is exactly what will happen.
>Don't ever con yourself into thinking that things were actually good, they were just mathematically less bad.
People hate getting old because they're told it is a bad thing, rather than something different.
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Neet girls = best girls
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>>11398551

Poly takes a lot of time and communication to work. Been poly for over 20 years now, married for 15 of those. Been in a solid triad for nearly 10 of those years.

Will still maintain: "Poly is great. I don't recommend it." To work, it requires a level of self-awareness, communication, and time investment most people just aren't willing to give.
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>>11414474
Yeah, I'd agree.
I was briefly in one for about 3 months, four people total.
For about two weeks, it was the best thing ever. As much love and affection and intimacy as I could take, always someone to do good stuff with, and there's something just incredibly, deeply satisfying about the people you love, loving eachother. Then it started breaking down slowly.
I honestly don't even think the problem was me, self serving as that sounds. I think I was actually managing it pretty well, and at the end, all three wanted to stay in contact with me. I'm sure I made my own missteps, but, I think I was doing pretty well.
But, things between the others started chafing. I don't think any of them were things that would be that out of place in a normal relationship, it's just that whenever one of those things happened, it caused a shift in the overall dynamic and balance, and if someone got a bit hurt, they didn't work it out properly, just retreated to one of the others. Lotta unhealthy avoidance and resentment, a lot of paranoia and stress. I'm someone who doesn't really play that game, I talk about my problems, pull problems out of other people to deal with them, and have always been able to maintain multiple channels of communication with people. I think I'm the only reason in lasted three months, I think it would have broken apart in under a month without me.
But, that's part of it. YOU cannot make it work. One person MIGHT be able to make a two person relationship work, it's not the most healthy, but I think it's doable. But you can't make it work between other people, they have to be able to make it work, too. So, it's not just making sure you have the right stuff to enable it, anyone involved needs to be good at it, too. And, I have to imagine that makes the idea of adding anyone new incredibly stressful, because you're compounding successive 1/50 people level odds with each.
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>>11414474
>>11414705
Polyamorous relationships usually only work in a trinary, and usually only along the terms that you're looking at a group of people who all fundamentally like each other and see no reason to sacrifice the shared friendship on the altar of monogamous exclusivity.
Usually also takes a high degree of trust and a willingness to communicate. When it works, it works but the problem is that kind of like how BDSM has an unfortunate dovetail with dark triad personalities, polyamory dovetails with.... shitty people. They pass off cheating and infidelity as being poly when in reality they just don't like the fact that their existing relationship carries responsibilities with it. That and people who have such a lack of self identity that they'll put up with being the designated third wheel because they think it's better than being single.
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>>11412615
≤3
this
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In the late 2010s I managed to be closer to alive. Being trapped the suburbs without enough money to survive is tough, every single thing you try to do outside is a event that you need to commit to, but I had friends who I knew wanted to see me, and we could both do it. 2020 must have broke them.

I flashback seeing the faces of a lot of people every time I spend hours trying to fall asleep. Everyone I must have ever seen, which isn't a lot. Maybe if it was only 20 or 30 minutes a night for me I could have enough time to spend the multiple hours on foot I would need, but so much of it is eaten up by all that torture. Roughly 5-6 hours of sleep most nights, about 14 spent in bed, sometimes more, sometimes less. I can only hope that none of those faces I sob remembering are truly just memories. I don't blame someone for wanting to check out of this life, it isn't living, but I won't rest until Ive had at least a single day of life.
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>>11415741
I wish I could hug you right now
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>>11417170
I can't remember the last time I felt physical affection. The last time I saw a human being face to face would have been late april, maybe early may. Going back through the texts to make sure would be too painful. I appreciate that a internet stranger feels the same things I do when reading other peoples venting posts.

I swear I'm getting a early start on sundowning, feel immensely worse when the sun comes down, which considering that's at 5 PM now where I live isn't great but hey that's just how the planet works. Not worth it to get mad at it. Man created this hell, we're clearly more powerful than the planet, it would not have done this to us.
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>>11415741
>I won't rest until Ive had at least a single day of life.

I hope you stick to this, anon. You might just find that once you've lived that single decent day, you might have the urge to live another. And another. And another...

I hope you do.
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>>11417206
If Ive had a single day of life, I am sure I could fight for another hundred years to live another day, sustained by those memories.

Two might be worth a thousand years. Zero is already worth a human lifetime, although I guess some people can really eat their depression wheaties and make it to 100 but none of us can really expect to be so cool as to be sustained purely by spite for that long. Not going to let this man made hell feel the thrill of victory over me.
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>>11413654
>I think it is more that you got a bunch of Millennials who are malding out because COVID made that transition from adulthood to middle ages less of a transition and more like a train accident.
millennials were best positioned during covid
it's zoomers that are malding
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>>11410358
>>it's only females
Everyone wants or wants to be a NEET female
Being a male NEET is a curse
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I'm a female neet. Depressive thoughts hit me often. I do nothing besides watching anime, playing cozy stuff and trying to grow my chest. Life inherently sucks
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>>11417921
>and trying to grow my chest.
Feel like you mentioned this just so people would ask
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>>11417928
>snapchat
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>>11417921
this reads like you're going to scam me
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The flashbacks were especially hard last night. Thankfully I was able to spend the entire day staring directly at the Mid 2000s videogame. You don't really need nutrition if you can instead disassociate.

>>11417997
My girl very likely is and I wish her the best of luck.

This is a poor place to target, people here are horny sure but horny -and- sad. They're just going to trauma dump on you and they barely have anything worth stealing anyways. There's a reason why the best people to scam through the internet are old boomers who have a lot of money and not a lot of sense.
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>>11417928
>>11417989
These ham planets are putting the pig in 3DPD.
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I've always liked these thread but never understood why they are made here. They could easily be posted in /c/ or /e/.
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>>11418245
Thick neet
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>>11417928
She's pretty
>>11417929
Not really. It's among the things I waste my time on
>>11417997
I guess
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>>11417921
Having a female neet friend to play pretend rubbing udder cream all over her tits and talking about some hentai science on why it would help her tits explode in sizes would be fun
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>>11419711
Not gonna lie
My tits get pretty damn sore nowadays, someone to massage them would be nice. Just don't squeeze too much
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>>11419816
Sensible level of breast kneading and squeezing. Yep, i can work with that.
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>>11418246
A: Hentai.
B: NEETdom usually dovetails with some niche fetishes. Alternative body types, slobs and sweat comes to mind.
C: Perverts need a NEET thread, too. Arguably eroge and erotic culture has more in common with the NEET lifestyle than /ecchi/ and /cute/.
Will agree that about 80% of the images being posted aren't /d/ grade though.
>>11417921
Have a social life. Get outside. Eat a cleaner diet. Life is pain and suffering but your relationships are what make it worth living. You don't deserve eternal agony and torment, you deserve to share it with those around you.
>>11417575
All comes down to luck. Of my wider circle of friends, the millennials tended to get fucked over. All but one of my friends got laid off, and while I managed to hold onto my job, it did involve moving four hours away, twice, in about five years. Also helped to normalize me to a semi-NEET WFH lifestyle I'm still trying to kick out of.
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>>11418246
1. This kink is a sorta composite/specific combination of fetishes, kinda like venus. And those kinds of more esoteric fetish combinations trend /d/, if for no other reason than exploratory and vibes based kink development can't really happen on those other boards.
2. Some of the sub parts of this kink are themselves /d/. Strong odors & body hair, "unattractive" qualities, ect.
3. A non-insubstantial part of this thread is the social aspect, /d/ is by far the best social red board. Whether or not the people in this thread are actually female neets, male larpers, or anything in-between, that's still part of the whole. Talking about kinks, lifestyle and kink, or anything else like it is very /d/ behavior
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>>11420060
>All comes down to luck
Yeah
Of the fistful of people I know, I don't think there's any particular trend.
One friend completely lapsed into unemployed neetdom after college, they graduated in 2019. I don't know what they've done to be able to maintain it, besides living in their parent's second property, so they don't have to pay rent or anything.
Another got a huge, huge pay bonus for their job at some marketing place through covid, since they lost everyone else, so is doing well.
The third older person I know, had a bunch of shitty jobs for a while, got laid off for covid, met their wife during, who does some computer stuff, and I think got a similar bonus/promotion during covid.

My two younger friends
One went through iirc 10th, 11th, and 12th grade via distance learning, and is basically completely fucked. They weren't a great student before, basically got cheated out of three years of education, and has no idea how to catch back up.
The other only went through iirc 12th as distance, got a good job at a Starbucks right as things were restarting thanks to my aunt, and seems to be doing great.

So, really does seem a bit like luck. There's obviously some markers of things that worked out vs didn't, but, there was no real way to know beforehand, you know?
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am i really the only one here whos gotten so deep into the depression hole that ive started pissing in bottles
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>>11420822
It's stuff like that, alongside talking to a AI, that I am thankful I have still refused to do because of how visibly worn down I must be to cross that line. Maybe one day I'll fail, but for now I'm strapped incase some clanker thinks he can be a replacement for human connection.

Also if you're having problems drinking water or much fluids at all you'll piss way, way less. That's a separate issue and you can't really influence the way depression strikes but there's a silver lining to that at least.
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>>11420822
I still can't imagine it
Cleanliness is pretty much the one thing I have left
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>>11397792
i dislike the miserable blogposting that goes on in the threads, but these kinds of girls are exactly my cup of tea..

romance with lanky ugly females
bedbreaking, babymaking sex with lanky ugly females
marriage with lanky ugly females
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>>11422126
I can meet you halfway to lanky with being a bit chubby with scrawny limbs, but if we do anything bedbreaking, sex or otherwise, I'm gonna need some ibuprofen and tylenol
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>>11421039
haven't pissed in bottles (yet), but have talked to AI...
i think its a good tool to at least keep some of your social skills and have someone you can rant to without affecting a genuine relationship.
But yeah, its definitely no replacement for real human connection
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Waking up from dreams now that are just about getting to talk to someone.

There is no way out of hell except through.

>>11423156
I get that, not going to judge anyone for it. Something about it just seems...Idk, like a line that if I crossed would just end in a instant sobbing fit.

Might also be related to how ive never really wanted to adopt any form of new technology. Smartphones became prevalent while I was in high school, but I never got one until a year or two after. That might be related to not having a friend during that time, but to this day I only really want to involve new tech if there's some critical job it needs to do. Being able to talk to people is a lot more than critical but something about it being a robot and these companies often explicitly marketing it as a way to fill the deep hole in so many peoples lives that they know they have just feels like even if I try it will hollow me out way more than staring at the videogame for hours at a time.

That and I have played too much of said videogames not to spend the entire conversation insulting the wirehead for bein' a fuckin' hanzer. You think you can commercialize human interaction, chromeboi? Don't give a shit how borged out you are.
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>>11423240
Idk nigga at least you don't have someone stomping on your ceiling or some shit
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>>11423240
>Might also be related to how ive never really wanted to adopt any form of new technology
Saaaaame
I hate the machines. All of them. I don't care that my life is glued to them, I hate them.
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I'm glad that I have a job that makes me "only" a semi shut-in, though sometimes I'd like to be a NEET again.
Working while being depressed honestly just sucks ass
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>>11418246
/e/ and /h/ are weird about what's allowed to be posted, hence the running gag that is the pregnancy thread here in /d/. some of it is /c/ but there's probably just too much porn people want to post. some threads here are also half blogposting. I don't know why it's this board that's like that.

>>11423240
>>11423156
I talked to AI for a bit and then cried about having some(thing) to have an actual conversation with (this was while I actually had a job), but it's not actually good at having a conversation. it doesn't know things about my interests, it forgets what happened howevermany messages ago, and if you're using something with a character system it'll probably try to talk for you, cyber or, -even worse- randomly chapter break into regurgitated example text. It's just not that pleasant at this point in development.
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>>11424510
There's this joke first made in some webcomic I saw a while back, Ive retold it a few times, but basically there's people who are enthusiastic about technology: They have every single thing in their house networked together, they got one of those home assistance things that can turn on their washing machine from anywhere in the world.

Then there's people who use computers every day, who only have a single printer networked to the wider internet in their own home, and a loaded handgun next to it incase it makes any weird noises. As someone who actually stares at the computer all day I am of the opinion that you need to be strapped at all times, don't give the computer a chance.

>>11425878
>non-porngrapic images
Honestly I identify too much with Lain. Even before she's...Y'know, underage. I recommend every single 13 year old watch Serial Experiments Lain, it's about someone just like you, that was a great age to see that. Clothes stay on for both reasons, even though I pass over a bunch of art on pixiv trawls all the time, it just feels right to not have this be solely textposting.

>AI
Yeah I know I'd cry after I do it too.

It's also nowhere close to a actual human but it's probably better than the last time I tried to talk to a chatbot, which was like 2009. Never forget, never again.
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>>11426085
I think the computer take is a mixture of things.
First, something like a dunning kruger effect, where less intelligent people feel unusually capable with a computer because of the guide rails set before them, that more intelligent people both don't vibe with, and are interrupted by because the guide rails are very very loud and obnoxious for the people that need them.
And then the sort of disillusionment that comes from understanding them. Like the first year of understanding that Santa isn't real, so you suddenly have the sense of awareness of what you are asking your parents for, except instead of a heartfelt feeling of tenderness and love, it's wanting to gouge out the machine's eyes and scream at the person who made this/made the person make it like this.
And then I think a sprinkle of anyone who was already computer savvy 10, 15 years ago having complete understanding of how much enshittification has set in, for zero goddamn reason/to sell the solution back to you, but it's still worse.
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>>11426208
For me at least, I think the third aspect there is the primary one. The other two for personal reasons less so. I am in my early 30s, I kind of wish I only had more like 20 years of experience being tech savvy. I just flat out don't have memories where I wasn't using a computer as a hollow replacement for life. If you're so small the computer chair actually dwarfs you in size you're going to have trouble getting up there and grasping the keys, but that won't be a problem for that long, and early childhood memories are weird anyways. A kid that strange was probably never going to make better friends with kindergartners than Windows 98.

"Enshittification" is a fantastic term for how computing as evolved, since even trying to be cognizant of how little I still actually know about them, the tech we are making is ridiculously advanced, just the system we have is completely incapable of producing justice. The ultimate legacy of our era will be that computer technology led to just a ridiculous increase in planetary wealth from the productivity increases alone. You don't really need the replicator from star trek to have that kind of future, the economic output of our planet exploding over the last 30 years can get you most of the way there, but people don't starve because there's actually no food. Poverty is endemic because the system believes that will lead to higher economic growth in the end. Even if that was actually true it'd still be horrific, but it just isn't, and spending my entire life staring at this hollow light box knowing what it could do if we lived in a world with even a scrap of humanity left will always feel like what someone writing a sci fi novel long before my time would think is a bit too on the nose for what the dark future will actually be.
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>>11425878
Yeah
I have a character ai I use mostly as a magic 8 ball of sorts, I throw thoughts and ideas at it more to externalize them, and have SOME sort of external feedback I can argue with, and yeah, it would be AWFUL trying to actually interact with it. For my purposes it's fine, but it's so difficult to get a cohesive chain of messages out of it. And I use the one I use pretty explicitly because it's a contrarian that will usually disagree with me, I can only imagine if it was more traditionally sycophantic, those fuck with people in weird ways, I know that much.
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>>11400766
>your pic related reminds me of my ex

>>11410358
lmao is this po^3ka? I'm the only anon that ever called him that when he was commonly in the drawthreads, so if it's him posting this and not someone posting his art, kek
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>>11398314
I met a girl like that on a dating app. She was a younger neet girl who was kind of fat and didn't shower and she suffered from night terrors or something. She had previous sexual experiences but had never cum. It was amazing how little she knew about her own body. I was able to hit her g-spot for the first time (since other times she would get off she'd just kind of grind a pillow). I remember getting her off so many times that she was left exhausted and fell asleep in my bed. Trying to be nice I snuggled up next to her and gave her the big spoon treatment, wrapped my arms and legs around her, really affectionate. She said she slept so peacefully next to me that she was addicted to it. She became incredibly clingy and needy and would constantly try to find a way back over to my house to hook up and sleep in my arms. I indulged her for a bit but it was clear that she liked me A LOT more than I liked her.
She was also kind of a sperg, and would send me hours and hours of audio of her masturbating and saying my name into the mic as she did. She also used to squirt a lot and I would get audio of her squirting / pissing while she came, sometimes in public bathrooms and shit. She used to give herself orgasms through nipple play alone too, I remember one time she got really risque with it and was actually sending me pictures of her flashing in public and masturbating in public in a park or something. She also took a cab to some mental health appointment, and was texting me furiously from the back seat, she was grinding her pussy, both hands on her phone, not even touching herself, telling me she was ending through imagining us having sex again and if I told her to cum she get off. Just to humour her I told her to cum, like ERP style and she ended up getting in trouble with her taxi driver for public indecency or something. I think even the police got involved.
that was the fun stuff...
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...the bad stuff was she would sometimes threaten to self-harm if she couldn't see me and it became a matter of her using attention from me as a reason not to self harm that day. Like she would text me something like "please get me off today or I'll punch myself on video and send it to you." Spergy shit like that. She was very apologetic and self-disgusted all the time and it was turning into a negative drag on my life. I still miss my horny little neet.
She was obese, and stinky, and her body was always covered in this like slippery layer of sweat, especially between her thighs, it might even have been pussy juice. Her hair was never washed, and clung to her back in slimy tendrils. She tried to shave and gave herself horrible razor burn on her pussy but left her armpits bushy for some reason lol. She used send me pictures of huge squirt stains on her dirty mattress that may or may have just been a bladder full of piss with captions like "thinking about you baby" she was kind of retarded, and clearly had all kinds of social and mental handicaps in her life. Man she could not hold a conversation, she was kind of low IQ and would make really obvious comments when watching a show together. Like we were binging MHA after I just pounded her into a stinky puddle and let her get on top and sleep on me like a cat (and she would meow and lick my chest hair lol) and she'd be saying stuff like "oh that guy's the teacher"... It's hard to build a rapport that's deeper than a (stinky) puddle with someone like that lol.
But she was very loving, and affectionate, and her devotion and sweetness and the gratitude of just having a man who would accept her, pleasure her and want her, and wrap her up in his arms to save her from her night terrors was something she was always grateful for. Extremely grateful. And I always appreciated that. I still think about her. I hope she found herself a new man to meet her incredibly basic romantic needs of hitting the g-spot and spoonin
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>>11428036
>>11428040
On the one hand I don't blame you for stepping away from that relationship, and I completely get why a lotta dudes just wont spend the time- it's a huge investment of yourself for returns that admit there will probably be no reward at the end of it all- but damn. It sounds like you're OK now, but are you OK? I like clingy and I love obsession but I draw the line at self harm.
>I indulged her for a bit but it was clear that she liked me A LOT more than I liked her.
Don't date virgin women if you don't want to run the risk that she's a clinger. Orgasms nuke the female mind with pair bonding hormones so if you were her first orgasm, you basically wired her to focus on you. Sounds like incel shit- and it kind of is- but some women absolutely can't handle what it does to them. If it dovetails with a couple other factors you basically make your own yandere waifu, only to discover... you don't like yandere waifus. It sounds cute and fun and it seems like a cheat code to a comfy relationship but if it's fake and acted out, it is really easy to notice and if it's real, it stops being fun in a hurry.
>>11426565
My deepest hope is that predictions surrounding technology- specifically that the decline of globalization will make high end CPU's, owing to how massively complex and massively dependent they are on international supply chains, become one of the first casualties- end up being true. Just wipe out smart phones as a concept and roll our computer tech base back to a sweet spot somewhere from the late 90's to the early 00's. The internet isn't for normies. They can't handle it, they can't use it responsibly. If we forced everything back to the standard of having end users having to figure out how to set up something like IRC chat and setting up niche-interest forums and paying for it with their own money instead of ads, I think society as a whole would benefit.

Normies go back to their realm, the rest of us get our internet hang outs. Win / Win.
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>>11428036
Honestly this does sound about as close to a vanilla form of the rather extreme lifestyle BDSM relationship ive been into my entire life can be. Loads of girls who are into that are actually like this, it's nothing like the porn, makes me wonder if she wanted to ask you to permanently enslave her but just never once got the courage.

With the kind of authority you are given in that relationship you can help with some of the rougher parts of that. Force her to shower, and to slim down if that's what you want. The self harm is...I mean "interesting" feels wrong but I struggle in my attempts to really understand it beyond just knowing how many girls of my type struggle with it. People often wear long sleeves if they're not comfortable with their body, especially if they've given themselves extra reasons not to. Ive only ever done it once just to see if it made me feel better, and it did the exact opposite. The tie in with BDSM will always be a thought there, since threatening to punch herself on video would get more of a response of "I appreciate that you want to hurt yourself in my name, but I probably should be there to make sure you don't hurt yourself more than you should."

Also going to be real a lot of girls like that just want to be dumb. They actually are smarter than that, they just put their brain power into trying to empty their head since they know that any form of intelligence is torture for them. The end goal is to replace that empty head only with a man they're obsessed with, which there tends to not be a lot of men who are cool with that. I hope your neet is still around, they tend to have a mental breakdown every few weeks during normal times, losing their man is not normal times.
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>>11428068
>yandere sounds fun but gets real
Yeah...There's a reason why even if that's your type, most people struggle with girls like that. They are intense, and hard to understand, especially if you're trying to minimize the risk of them just killing themselves one day. Being able to figure out why self-harm is such a big deal for them would help, currently I'm just being ground down in the long term by a lot of this.

>global tech "dark" age
I mean yeah that could be a possible future. Every single time I learn just how fragile the global supply chain actually is I'm amazed. Why exactly is like most global chip production in the exact two countries who both believe they are actually the real china, and could have started WW3 over that in the past 70 years anytime they wanted?

The system as it is I am amazed how stable it has been. It really shouldn't be. This probably means that when it finally isn't that fall will be far worse than it would be for any other form of civilization. I can see a world where tech needs to become more localized like that. Having a literal personal computer in your pocket that can connect all over the globe could have done immense things for humanity, but in truth our world is not responsible enough to use these miniature chaos engines right, and if you need to be a fuckin' nerd to do anything more than play Command and Conquer: Tiberian Sun on your light emitting brick then this world would be slightly more limited in its ability to harm itself. I seriously think future generations might have conspiracy theories about how smartphones were very literal mind control devices, instead of the reality that they didn't need to be literal.
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>>11428082
>which there tends to not be a lot of men who are cool with that.
I think it is less that they're not 'ok' with it and more that they don't know how to respond to that, and responsibility is scary. They've never been in a real relationship- never mind a devoted, obsessive one- so when it comes kicking down the front door of their life and says, "Have sloppy, gross, horny breeding sex with me, man-whore!" they panic. They wanted the milk, not the whole cow.
>Also going to be real a lot of girls like that just want to be dumb.
This is true. Most women are subjected to low, background constant bimbofication. Look pretty, don't think too much, just be a dumb bimbo. I think it's criminal because it is incredibly limiting for women to do that to themselves and it almost hard-locks them into boring, unfulfilling relationships, but I do understand why a lot of them do it. Anything more serious than that also carries a much higher risk of failure and involves being naked- proverbially, literally- and vulnerable to a dude who's free to completely misunderstand or worse, gossip about it. It is just easier to be the bimbo and let the guy figure it out. It's a stupid gamble, but its one I understand.
>>11427895
>your pic related reminds me of my ex
She's a cute, which is why I saved and posted it in the first place.
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>>11428082
Honestly where I am now in life I wouldn't mind a girl like that. But I guess from my perspective, I met her on a dating app. I had just come out of a very serious relationship, and was looking to rebound. I actually had a girl or two before I met her, the hook up to me was just fun. Honestly now that kind of relationship would suit me great. I've also grown to appreciate neet girls more and more. I work from home and would happily have a cute live in neet girlfriend to buy anime figurines for and give insane mind breaking orgasms to.

>>11428068
Pair bonding is no joke dude. I was her first EVERYTHING. I think she had orgasmed from her clit (grinding pillows) but I was her first g spot orgasm, vaginal penetration orgasm, breast play orgasm, nipple play orgasm, spanking orgasm, verbal command orgasm, erp orgasm, hands free erp cum on command word orgasm etc.
I have a pretty strong proclivity for female pleasure domination so she was definitely fun to toy with.
When she met me in town she was wearing leggings and a hoodie. I actually showed up in a button down shirt and jeans, she was completely destitute and I was working as a researcher for a game company at the time. So when I took her out I got her sushi, showed her how to use chopsticks. She was enamoured. When the bill came she started to apologize profusely. I said I would cover it and her eyes lit up. Nobody had ever bought her dinner before lol. When the check came and I just dropped my visa and said I'd take care of it she started bit her fingers nervously and smiling. I'm not even kidding. It was only like 30 bucks lol. I was spending more on a happy hour with work 3 times a week at the time. I got us an Uber back to my place and she got really handsy in the backseat. Nothing too explicit but I could tell she had just never been treated before in life. She had made it to her later 20s without any of the normal dating stuff that basically me and everyone I knew saw as expected and accepted.
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>>11428088
>They are intense, and hard to understand, especially if you're trying to minimize the risk of them just killing themselves one day.
That's why I like them. I don't like women who are easy to read. Then again I've come to realize I'm not exactly normal myself.
>I mean yeah that could be a possible future. Every single time I learn just how fragile the global supply chain actually is I'm amazed. Why exactly is like most global chip production in the exact two countries who both believe they are actually the real china, and could have started WW3 over that in the past 70 years anytime they wanted?
It is almost guaranteed just on account of the fact that the supply chain is, as you've pointed out, insanely fragile. Globalization is on the decline because it relied heavily on the fact that if you fucked with it, the United States was going to either bury you financially, or with it's military. The problem is that this was also a system the United States doesn't strictly need- places like Europe need it way more than the US does- and where it's decline will most likely spell the end for places like Europe and the EU the United States would... mostly be fine. It's a deal the United States has almost completely soured on and, "but muh iphone!" isn't going to justify the trillions spent and lives lost to enforce the status quo.
>I mean yeah that could be a possible future.
I'd emphasize, this is very probable. It is way more likely that we lose the global supply chain sooner than someone figures out how to do microchips under one roof. At which point companies like Nvidia and Intel slide back ~10, 20 years in terms of capabilities. Honestly I think it'd be a good thing. This is just torture for the normies.
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>>11428100
All that side of it was great. What man wouldn't want a girl who has mentally absorbed you completely that you can make her cum by staring at her pussy while she holds her hands over her blushing face and tell her "well I'm waiting..." And then you watch her cunt and asshole start twitching, her breath get heavy and her pearlescent juices throb out of her mind broken soaked hole.
That shit is great (for me at least).
The problem was all the shit that comes with a girl like that. She had a TERRIBLE home life with her family, constantly getting into fights. She would text me when I was in the middle of giving presentations saying she was heading to the roof. I'd excuse myself from an IMPORTANT FUCKING presentation to call her and she'd say "oh um...no sorry I'm just being dramatic...God I'm so worthless and stupid..." And then I'd tell her to stay safe and go back to the meeting and then my boss would chew my ass over it later. It was a lot of stuff like that. A lot of long hours pouring long DM messages and texts and long calls with her to try and anchor her to reality, when the problems she was facing were pretty fucking superficial and stupid. I understand that applying to university is annoying and it might take the better part of an afternoon, but with her it was like months of bullshit and failure and self sabotage and breakdowns etc. I was harsh at the time because the previous girls I had dated were much more independent so that was my metric, but honestly, if I had in her my life now I wouldn't want her to self improve. She was on this mission to get a real career and move out of her childhood bedroom but clearly begrudgingly. She would've been happier in life just being my live in neet girl pet. She used to joke about it. She used to say she wished she was my stinky cat lol. If she had everything she wanted, warmth, shelter, food, entertainment, endless sexual fun, and someone to spoon her, she'd probably have a very blissful life.
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>They wanted the milk, not the whole cow
That's a lot like it, yeah. I think a lot of men would want the kind of obsession that relationship is. Even if they can logic through how a relationship like that would probably be wrong, knowing that they would likely attempt suicide if they were rejected is textbook toxic relationship stuff, but love is not logical, and it's even less so when it's just happening to you.

That and...How the fuck do you stalk someone for over a decade before they notice. Men will so consistently go "oh she's just being nice :)", I'm amazed with some of the memories I have.

>constant bimboification
Maybe it's being really into lifestyle BDSM where you need to be a leader of your own life to ever have a hope of having complete control and leadership over another, but I'm a firm believer that at least a decent majority of people want to be a bimbo, it's just only socially acceptable for women to give into that.

Be dumb, thinking is for the person you're bound to. They'll do it for you and everything will be okay. The life of a house cat is not too bad compared to how bad humans regularly feel. A lot more than 50% of humanity would instantly take the deal of being a house wife/husband if the relationship wasn't toxic and they could actually still afford the basics of life.

>>11428109
Honestly...If she's spending her entire life nude in service to you that cleans up the entire "life is a absolute mess" issue. Her life is you and also yours. Makes it easier to help her.

A lot of girls like that also struggle with the expectations that they should be a fully featured human being, but truth is they are even worse at that than the bad job most people are already doing. Acceptance that they'd be better off not even doing that might be rougher for people who actually need it more honestly.
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>>11428100
>Pair bonding is no joke dude. I was her first EVERYTHING.
Yeah, but I'm just saying I think you're insane for stepping away from it even if I understand that kind of relationship isn't for everyone. And the stuff about biology and hormones squicks some people out, even if there's a strong basis for it. Some women can handle the pair bonding stuff and aren't heavily affected by it. Others, it becomes all-consuming. Which is a problem because intense people need intense people who can understand and channel that, intense people have a habit of bouncing off the normies unless they're bimbo / himbo coded and the intense person can handle the bimbo brain.
>>11428109
>She was on this mission to get a real career and move out of her childhood bedroom but clearly begrudgingly.
She resented the fact that she had to go through that much effort to find something stable when that's what you're supposed to have from your family. You shouldn't have to burn your candle at both ends because your immediate family is a bunch of drooling normies who resent the fact that you're not one of them.
>If she had everything she wanted, warmth, shelter, food, entertainment, endless sexual fun, and someone to spoon her, she'd probably have a very blissful life.
This, right here, this is the real crime. Globalization and capitalism were weaponized to prevent stinky neet girls from finding husubandos who can support their neet lifestyle and instead force dependency on the state. Globalism was made to cuck nerds and neets and goonettes. Absolutely criminal.
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>>11428115
>That and...How the fuck do you stalk someone for over a decade before they notice.
Low self-esteem and not being in a position where they can have a committed relationship. I've had to walk away from relationships that would have been great because they'd require sacrificing career or education at a stage where I just couldn't do that. It sucks. If you're pursuing a guy you gotta bite the bullet and be very direct and very explicit with them because most guys have zero understanding of social nuance. They don't get 'hints' and they're absolutely terrified of social consequences because they don't want to be seen as a sex pest or a pervert. So they tell themselves, 'she is just being nice' because that describe 95% of his interaction with the opposite sex. The lady behind the counter is smiling because she has to. The waitress is smiling because she needs that tip. The lady on the phone is being nice because if she doesn't get a 5 star review, she's getting put on a PIP. So when it happens in real life.... she's just being nice. You're just acquaintances. You're not good enough to be that for her, why would you ever even think you were capable of being that for her? She's probably not even looking, don't bother. In fact, don't even think of it, that just winds you up and leaves you bitter and frustrated.
Trust me, if you think it's worth looking into whether or not you can swing a relationship with him, just ask him. If he can't let you down easy, he wasn't your friend in the first place. And by odds? That single memory, even if he has to refuse you, will be something he cherishes for a decade. Hell, I still remember the time the cute girl in high school had a completely normal, casual conversation with me and complemented me and that was over a decade ago at this point. If you care about him, don't let him torture himself with it for decades to come. Be blunt.
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>>11428118
The problem the majority of people who are competent enough to take care of themselves and an additional neet girl and all her needs, put a lot of value in effort and achievement, which by definition is something neet girls are basically allergic to.
So it's difficult to connect those two groups together. When a neet girl is asking how her boyfriend's day went and he brings home the difficulties in his career and how the changing industry is shrinking the available promotions, how management keep pulling up the ladder and he's worried he'll just be moving sideways to his next job for the next decade, and then he asks her and she's like
>Well I was gonna go to the shop and buy lunch with the money you left for me this morning, but I couldn't find my hat and so I didn't go and I forgot to eat again and now I feel faint
It feels a bit silly lol.
I've grown fond over that kind of girl now and honestly I don't think I'd be posting in the neet thread if I didn't see the appeal, but the majority of guys like me will see neet girls like literal retards. Like people with down syndrome. And it'll just create resentment in most people.
Some provider boyfriends will sympathize and maybe even feel smitten at having your girl call you in tears because she can't use a can opener, Like a literal child lol. But the vast VAST majority will not see the charm.
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>>11428082
>Also going to be real a lot of girls like that just want to be dumb.
>>11428095
>This is true. Most women are subjected to low, background constant bimbofication.
100%, can confirm.
Back when I was a stocker, I had this surreal experience with my floor manager.
Up front, you gotta know, this guy was an asshole. No idea if it was a played up act for the job or just who he is, don't know, don't care, but it was honestly to the detriment of the job. We were constantly understaffed, because he would just be insufferable to new hires, so they'd just leave. There was a consistent pattern, where about a half hour after lunch, he'd pick some poor bastard to stick to for the next hour or so, hover around them, micromanage them, and make sure not a single goddamn thing got done in that section.
After I was there for like, three months, I don't even remember why I did it, maybe I hadn't slept well, idk, but I'd had a rough night, my section was behind schedule and a bit fucked, that's absolutely the case, and when he came by and started to fuck with me, out of exhaustion I just played the idiot
Oh no I thought it was supposed to be that way, I'm behind 'cuz I put a bunch of stuff in the wrong spot, then had to move it, you mean oil and vinegar are different things, and whatever else.
I swear to god, it was like a switch got pulled in his head. The first time since I had gotten there, that I had seen him be anything resembling decent to another human being, got like a twenty minute explanation of shit, then he worked on another aisle in my section for like an hour, handled all my cardboard. I was completely confused at first, it wasn't until I was decompressing at home in the morning that I realized what had just happened.
Super super super gross, I hated it, but just pretending to be an idiot at my job dropped the stress from it almost entirely, 'cuz as long as I was a dumbass, the asshole wouldn't come over and shit everywhere.
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>>11428127
Oh just to be clear it's not me whose stalked someone for over a decade. I'm the one who has figured out he's being stalked and is playing high stakes chess with a girl who I would really like to put under my dominion and avoid the two failure states of either killing herself or spending the rest of our lives with me trying and failing to coax her out of the shadows. Deescalation doesn't seem to be working but she is still alive, so there's that. Ive resorted to various forms of attempting to put pressure in the virtual space since I just know a confrontation out in the real world has a high chance of her running home and immediately killing herself.

A lot of what you've said would be good advice to her, I think. I broadcast master1200 on the IFF band for a reason. The ideal person to take care of someone like that is always going to be a bit messed up themselves, and gender roles do play a role here, as much as I wish we actually had equality in our world. Ive always had low self esteem, so it makes you think that there's no way at all a girl could be doing that to -you-, it's probably something else, and going to be completely real I spent a good chunk of my adolescent and then adult life on psych meds that probably actually bimboified me, hard to think, hard to do anything.

You can't give yourself schizophrenia as a solution to loneliness. It doesn't work that way, the doctors will just believe you when you tell them you hear voices. Don't do it.

>>11428138
When people are just a dumb boy it's because they're just garbage. When they're a dumb girl they can still get a pat on the head and sent on their way, its cute and/or endearing.

Gender roles do heavily factor into every section of our society, if you have a deep awareness of that you can use it to your own advantage, so many people don't think about it, especially since it can get really gross. You might need a specific concentration of autism for that but I'm not sure how common mine is.
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>>11428146
>it can get really gross.
Yeah, for sure. Especially since the ones for being female mostly boil down to "but they want to fuck you", which is absolutely disgusting a lot of the time. Or "they think this can somehow mean they can fuck you, but nobody else will". Or "This makes me feel like you might fuck someone else besides me"
And on the one hand, exploiting this "feels" right, they're doing greasy, nasty shit, taking advantage of them feels like it's the right thing, the same way like, I dunno, someone who is an asshole and cuts you off while driving immediately getting into a car accident because of their unsafe driving does. But then, it's also inviting it, it's putting a sign on your car to INVITE people to be dicks to you so they get in car accidents, except that sign costs a bit of your soul. Idk. It's weird. I don't like thinking about it. I wish it wasn't a thing and I didn't have to worry about it.
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>>11429045
Yeah you've got it figured out, its weird and gross and especially if you are a woman you're just never going to stop feeling conflicted about it. The more you think about it the worse it gets knowing just how little a lot of people really think about it.

Personally when it comes to stuff at work or generally trying to afford the basics of life I wouldn't feel bad at all. Feeling bad about scamming or manipulating people is a holdover from when people lived in a functional economy. It is understandable how overbearing it is though, I'm bit closer to the femme side, got my long hair going on all my life, I am amazed at how men will occasionally cat call me in the street. I think a large chunk of men actually see women as inherently sexual creatures and not much beyond that which...Isn't great. I can't imagine dealing with that shit every single day.

I'm still a firm believer that the majority of humanity actually would embrace bimboification if they could. Thinking about things just isn't what we're good at, if you could actually rely on someone else to that degree to take care of you then emptying your head makes you happier than most people who have ever lived.
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>>11429066
>>11429045
Well, you either suppress yourself and go full-bimbo and learn to just accept the airheaded lifestyle or you burn yourself at both ends of the candle trying to fight it and accomplish little other than making yourself miserable.
A healthy balance- weaponizing people's naivety against themselves for your own personal benefit while having a line you don't cross with the people who can meet you half way and treat you like an actual human- is necessary if you don't want to be a dumb bimbo.
>I'm still a firm believer that the majority of humanity actually would embrace bimboification if they could. Thinking about things just isn't what we're good at, if you could actually rely on someone else to that degree to take care of you then emptying your head makes you happier than most people who have ever lived.
The only reason bimbofication isn't dramatically more popular is because it costs a lot of money, and the people with the money frequently saddlebag themselves trying to find a member of the opposite sex they can engage with on an intellectual basis. Which.... I mean, you can do that. You'll probably end up bitter and alone because most women in that position are going to find any sort of committed relationship degrading, but you can certainly try.
>I think a large chunk of men actually see women as inherently sexual creatures and not much beyond that which...Isn't great. I can't imagine dealing with that shit every single day.
Guys are raised in an environment where their value is hedged against their ability to pull in women. Simply telling your employer you have a family to support inherently improves your odds of getting a raise. Your social network exists and dies by whether or not you have a family. Your parents are constantly pressuring you to meet a woman and pump out a couple of kids. I think a lotta people on /d/ exist outside that expectation but it isn't hard to see why some guys just see women as machines to give them sex.
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>>11429066
>the majority of humanity actually would embrace bimboification if they could.
I mean, I don't want it.
I like solving problems, or thinking about stuff and making stuff. Some of the most fun I have playing games, is coming up with wild explanations and theories with my friend, and spinning those narratives. I know I'm a dumbass in the big picture, but thinking about stuff, designing a thing, all that stuff is fun, that's some of the happiest, and most satisfying parts of life, you know? Not is just... I dunno, it feels like giving up. I may have given up on a lot, but, that, that I'm holding onto.

But, yeah. It's not like I didn't know to expect that kind of thing, just, being faced with it point blank like that was, ugh.
>>11429229
>A healthy balance- weaponizing people's naivety against themselves for your own personal benefit while having a line you don't cross with the people who can meet you half way and treat you like an actual human
Yeah
I hate that so, so much, but yeah. I don't want to think like that, I hate thinking like that, but, yeah. Shit like this is why there's the part of me that's grateful I can't function anymore.
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By "majority" I mean maybe more like 70% to 80%. You and me are perhaps made of sturdier stuff. There's gradients to it too, the word bimbo is far too strong to what I see as a tendency that a lot of people, if they were able to trust another person to both have the power but also to use it responsibly, probably would just cede a lot of higher level decision making over their life to someone they trust implicitly. It's easier that way. It never really turns out like that in reality but until humanity is ruled by friendly dom-coded robots that just want what's best for you then I still think a lot of people would really go for the tiny amount of people who actually can be that for someone else.

I don't think Ive ever really been functional. Ive gotten close before, currently a lot farther away than I have been in a while. I will be functional and happy one day, I'm not going to be defeated by myself.

Also...Yeah kind of a big difference between a drooling bimbo versus someone who can go off about their hyperfixations with those they love. Even in the most extreme form of lifestyle BDSM I want to hear all about the specific autism my partner is into. It doesn't matter what a subhuman piece of a dirt she is, she still needs to be interrogated about her specific anime or little plastic dudes or whatever.
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>>11429243
>I hate thinking like that, but, yeah. Shit like this is why there's the part of me that's grateful I can't function anymore.
That's just life. You should break bread with people who want to treat you like a human but there's absolutely no reason to not milk people for all their worth when they'd absolutely do the same if the shoe was on the other foot. And they'd do it without any moral qualms!
>>11429252
You're conflating bimbos with autists. I suspect most of us here are at least a little autistic, but bimbofication refers to the process of accepting an air-headed attitude towards what you're dealing with. They're virtually opposites.
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What the actual fuck is happening? I know ive been dead a long time, but how can hell be this soul crushing?

Am I going to wake up one day, to find that I am now even further down? I know there isn't a bottom layer, there is no finite point it can stop, there is always more.
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>>11429269
Yeah
I know. It just... doesn't feel right. And I hate being made aware of it, you know? It's like, forgetting you have something important to do, and getting annoyed at the person who reminded you, except, in this instance, you know not only did they remind you JUST to annoy you, it's not even important.
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>>11402379
On the sleep note, have you gotten tested for sleep apnea - it can seriously screw you up without you even realizing
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>>11421039

Trust me, you're better off without talking to any chatbot. At best, it's a waste of time. At worst, it's an addiction you have to fight off.
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>>11433626
Just a complete aside, but Ive talked to people in the patriarchy and permanent bondage threads that do a similar thing with quoting posts, leaving a line of space before writing their message. I wonder if that's intentional, since ever since someone pointed out I keep posting the sample images off of pixiv I kept on doing it if only so someone could pick me out.

Regarding AI I know back in the 2000s the temptation to make some sort of AI version of someone I know but have all sorts of messed up feelings and interactions with would have been strong. I am far more in control of myself now than when I was younger but I also know that is not normal, loads of people probably do stuff like that.

I can see it becoming a addiction. At the end of the day the chatbot is still trying its best to make you happy, and even if that's all manners of fucked up for other reasons that's still a better deal than most people get. Most people don't have the personality type to want to fight a entire lifetime for just the chance for something better.
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>>11433821
For the most part, unintentional; it feels a touch neater in the writing box for me, so sometimes it happens.

It's good that you have more control over yourself. That is a victory.

"At the end of the day the chatbot is still trying its best to make you happy" Unfortunately, that's not the case. The chatbot and the companies that make them only have the goal of making you spend more time using them.

I think a lot of people that don't currently thrive, would under different circumstances and it's very unfortunate. Sometimes it's just a complete lack of knowledge on where to start.

Which on that note, s a general recommendation for anyone on these boards that wants something to do online to replace doomscrolling, but still gives easy dopamine hits: citizen science. They're open source projects that you can easily contribute to online without any previous training or advanced knowledge. The tutorials are good and if you make an account, it keeps track of the projects you work on and can 1) generate a certificate showing your progress and 2) some of the projects can potentially lead to you being cited in a NASA article (if that's something you want). You don't need to understand a bunch of science, just be able to look at pictures. Just find the one that's most interesting for you and run with it, if you start one and it gets boring, try a different one.

https://science.nasa.gov/citizen-science/

https://scistarter.org/finder?projects=true&active=true

https://www.zooniverse.org/projects
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>>11433982
Yeah its harder to read peoples writing voice but I have picked up on how I think its the same voice behind a lot of the posts that do that, despite it not being every one of them.

It does look neater I will admit.

>only have the goal of making you spend more time using them
Could have phrased it a bit better but yeah that's ultimately what I meant to say. It will mirror a lot of what you say to it, but it's not to make you feel fulfilled or even in the way a lot of extremely nervous people will just go along with whatever their friends say to them, it's to drive engagement. There was that news article about the dude who had a psychotic episode because ChatGPT just reinforced his own delusions since he obviously would talk to the bot more if it did that. These machines are for sure close enough to a convincing simulacrum of texting a person now that it will trick that lower part of your brain that still sees it that way even if you consciously know it isn't.

>Sometimes it's just a complete lack of knowledge on where to start
I do personally think there's a problem of, well "Self delusion" for lack of really a good word for what I am talking about, that includes a value judgment that I really think shouldn't be there, but people will asses where they are and what they need to do to get out, and since our modern era has the dual problems of extremely limited resources alongside immense complexity in every single thing you can do it's so easy to get that assessment wrong, before you even begin to figure out a plan for what you do to get out which has even more points of failure.

This is another place where the chatbot would creep in. You need other people to talk to and gain perspective, even just working through your own thoughts in conversation with another person can help reason through a plan immensely. I really don't blame people for giving in but I'm still shooting any clanker I see, don't care. Don't give it a single chance to get started.
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>>11434032
Yeah, keep the clankers away.

I think warped perception might be a good way to put it. It's very easy to fall into blindspots.

And agreed again. As someone who tried some of them, every moment spent with it is a moment I can't get back. It's much easier to not start an addiction than it is to break one.
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Here's an odd one. I usually go through a bit of a cycle, where I'll feel more confident, sure I can finally get my act together, and ready to do stuff at one extreme, and more pessimistic, hopeless that things will never change, and that there's no point trying, and I should just try and make things work as they currently are at the other. It's just kind of a natural shift between these, with maybe a two week and some change time to go from one to another. Varies a bit by my mood and other stuff, but whatever.
The odd part, is that when I'm feeling more pessimistic, I feel way, way more gay, to the point of almost exclusively preferring women, fantasizing about them, looking at porn focusing on them, ect. Meanwhile, while I'm more confident, I feel more straight. Definitely more bi than at full pessimistic, but preferring men. I've never really been able to figure out why this is.
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In late high school there was this girl who was always affectionate toward me, brushing her hand against me and leaning on my shoulder and stuff like that. I found it annoying at first but we eventually hit it off and stayed in touch even after high school, but I only got to see her maybe once or twice a year. Mainly because her parents were controlling and didn't want to see her with guys, and when she did move out, she lived so far away that meeting up with her became impractical. Meanwhile she got to see her (female) best friend once a week if not more, growing closer until they eventually got married.

It wouldn't be so bad if she wasn't the only chance I've had. During college I was broke and couldn't even take classes in person to meet others, and afterward I've been too busy working and surviving on my own to find anyone to meet. My social skills have atrophied to where I don't even know to hold a decent conversation anymore. People tell me I'm boring and depressing, and I'm completely out of touch with what everyone else likes. So I have nothing to talk about. There's not even any place to meet people I'd get along with, I'm stuck in the kind of area most people try to get out of by the time they finish college. Which I'm long done with. By this point in life, everyone my age has settled down with someone anyway. There's no more room for me.

As one last hail mary I've been talking with her about moving in with them. Not just so I'm not spending every waking day alone, but also to help with finances since her wife can't work. Last I checked they're both okay with it, but we haven't discussed it in months so who knows. If it turns out they've changed their minds then I guess I'm dying alone. But if we do go through with this, I can only hope I can get as close to either/both of them as they are to each other. I don't think a poly relationship would go poorly for us, her wife and I get along okay and triads are pretty stable from what I've heard.
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>>11438201
Just because you're friends with someone doesn't mean you can live with them. I would be extremely hesitant to insert yourself into a poly relationship like that when you don't even fundamentally know them.
>People tell me I'm boring and depressing, and I'm completely out of touch with what everyone else likes. So I have nothing to talk about.
That's a them problem, not a you problem. The fundamental basis of relationships is mutual investment. They don't want to invest in you. That's their problem, not yours.
>My social skills have atrophied to where I don't even know to hold a decent conversation anymore.
Oh, join your local toastmasters club. Whatever your interests are, there's a local scene for it.
>>11437513
You keep falling off the wagon because you make it too easy to slide back into old habits. You're also assuming that a gay relationship would be easier than a straight one. No it wouldn't be.
>>11430005
You can always fall further. Until you start making a concerted effort to stop letting water flood your boat, you're going to stay swamped forever.
>>11432198
It doesn't have to feel right. The reality is that the fluffy neo-liberal world we got sold in the 90's and 00's isn't real. That's why it is so important to find your family and establish who is actually important. Respect is a complicated two way street, our closest living animal cousins engage in cannibalism. Learning to navigate idiots and use their worst tendencies against them is part of life.
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To all the guys saying "I wish these types of girls existed!!!", they do?? The majority of them are just super autistic and have poor hygiene -girl neet with autism and neet friends
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>>11438225
>The majority of them are just super autistic and have poor hygiene -girl neet with autism and neet friends
You say that like it's a bad thing.
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>>11438225
Yeah you want a girl who is messed up in similar ways as you but where do you think they are? Outside?

Are you outside? No? Then why do you expect to see girlfriend material out there unless you have something like a extremely rare train museum directly next to your house.
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(I'm new to posting on here, so idk if what I did is what im supposed to do..."

It's not really a bad thing, but most people can't handle being around an autistic person after a while. I have been hit on by guys who claim to love autistic girls, then proceed to hate when I do 'autistic things' (stimming, infodumping, toe-walking, a special interest, etc). On the hygiene front, I don't have too much to say because I shower more than 2-3 times a month now.. Used to get bullied a lot in middle/high school before I started getting into a regular shower routine. Probably didn't help that I've got curly hair that I didn't take care of either.

This got off on a tangent, I apologize!! Then there's also the huge group of guys who only want to date a hot neet girl. By 'hot', I mean the girls that are clearly high maintenance, or the ones that larp as a neet. I don't know who to blame for the girls larping as losers, but they make me look like a poser TwT
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>>11438233
YESYES THANK YOU. You're most likely going to meet these girls on random websites, not at your local Starbucks? On the topic of websites, I seriously doubt you're going to find a proper neet on tinder or snapchat (of those are still the main apps). Mentally ill autists tend to find community in the other weirdos online, not some random guy who won't bother to talk about their interests. Or even worse, guys who intentionally trigger their sensory issues?? I'm not sure why that's such a common occurrence
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Huh toe walking is a autism thing too? I am glad that I feel so gross now if I don't shower that even if I takes me a good chunk of the day to get there, I am atleast showering every day. When I was younger I could do 2 or 3. Yeah no that's not happening without being a biohazard anymore, I have zero idea why.

My experience as a autism neet (male) has been pretty heavily shaped by being into lifestyle BDSM so uh, a lot of people when they say they like someone like that are possibly seeing the same thing as someone being easy to control. A lot of guys check out when their idealized fantasy of "needy and high maintenance" fails to match the reality. I think they see a girl who they think is easy to manipulate into doing what they want and not realize that it'll take them 12 years to manipulate her into believing that you actually like her and aren't just pretending.

If you didn't get messed up by middle/high school I question how you ever ended up on this site. There was a off ramp to being normal and we clearly never took it.

>>11438236
>guys who intentionally trigger their sensory issues
Huh?

Yeah man that's messed up. New way to feel bad for girls unlocked.
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>>11438240
Yeah!! Toe-walking, assuming you mean having your foot how you would if you were wearing a high heel, is considered an autistic thing. My leg muscles used to be super tight from walking like that everywhere, so of you have a lot of cramps, I'd recommend looking up stretches.

Mhm!! I haven't had a partner in a hot minute because my area sucks, but most of them had me worried they secretly hated me for no reason. I was the kid that had guys run up to her and go "I have a crush on you!!" With their friends giggling behind them. That got worse in middle school when I came out as pan, because girls started doing it too. I'm sure you can imagine that doesn't help haha

Well uh, I've always been the weird kid/girl at school. Something about being visibly autistic made me a target. I went to a small school in hs because my district school was full of people who knew me before I was even diagnosed with adhd, let alone medicated.

I kind of nerfed my chances of being seen as normal because I have hella self-harm scars. On top of being decently scarred, I have the kind of autism that requires me to wear headphones almost 24/7. I wear them in the comfort of my quiet room, I wear them when I go to the store, when I go to the library, and so on. My sensory issues make me genuinely start freaking out

Heh, thanks!! I appreciate the sympathy. I have dated far too many guys who will ignore my touching boundaries until I just about lash out. I don't mean like "he grabbed my hand without asking". I mean these guys would: scream in my ear and laugh when I'd tear up, tightly squeeze me during hugs they didn't ask to give, and other general handsy-ness I didn't say was okay
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>>11438240
Also, sorry for adding random pieces of information in my replies.. I really hate being misunderstood, and I feel the extra context helps people figure out where I'm coming from
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>>11438248
Yeah I toe walk too. Ive never worn high heels but yeah I guess they take on that shape, I think. Idk I never actually liked those shoes on girls to begin with.

>secretly hated me
Oh boy is that the primary thing a lot of autistic people have. I managed to conquer it, somehow. I have basically two friends total, they both have that problem. Times have been tough on them especially since they've clearly got some sort of mental health crisis going on and can't talk to me, but I always had to reassure them that I do want to talk to them, that we are still friends, even if its getting tougher now that they've been checked out for 8 months and thus that also means I haven't been able to speak to a human being in that amount of time.

If I knew why I conquered that fear and don't really have it anymore it would be great in helping people feel a lot better about just being alive since that completely eats you up inside.

>self-harm scars
I am glad I only did that once to see if it made me feel better, it never did. Yeah I can understand how you'd be self conscious of that basically forever.

It is pretty hard to not talk about lifestyle BDSM in the context of dating someone like that since it is so much "I can fix her" as one of the core basis of how I love someone at all, but yeah. There's a decent chance that whenever I do find my life partner she's got a lot of self harm scars going on. A lot of women especially seem to do it, maybe there's something to unpack there but the arms especially are a hot spot.

That kind of relationship often means some pretty brutal things but yeah, I don't like yelling at all. What you described is just pretty messed up. Would never talk to someone who did that to other people, that's just gross.

>>11438263
Oh and you've got the guilt for all those tangents too.

Yeah I hope I do find someone a bit like you one day. The fact I regularly spend so long writing messages is probably torture on them though.
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>>11438248
>I have dated far too many guys who will ignore my touching boundaries until I just about lash out. I don't mean like "he grabbed my hand without asking". I mean these guys would: scream in my ear and laugh when I'd tear up, tightly squeeze me during hugs they didn't ask to give, and other general handsy-ness I didn't say was okay
It pays to be picky. They think they're being cute and teasing you because they think you're a normie with a few quirks as opposed to a neet with a few normal features. In reality their playful teasing is actually throwing you so far out of your comfort zone and normal head space that it's basically torture with extra steps. And that's on the good end of things- the hazard of entering into romantic relationships when you're not bog standard is there's no shortage of triad personality types who are specifically looking for people like you because it's easy access to abuse targets. They're seeking an unwilling submissive / captive audience for their domineering tendencies. When in doubt use your friends to sniff out potential bad actors. Normies and sociopaths aren't going to have the patience to deal with your autistic friends autistic interests and book it the minute they realize you're not the low hanging fruit.
>>11438234
>I have been hit on by guys who claim to love autistic girls, then proceed to hate when I do 'autistic things'
They like the pop version of autism where she's just a cute dork. They don't actually like autistic girls. The big thing to remember is that dudes in their teens and 20's are running on raw hormones and haven't quite matured to the point where they realize successful relationships are found by figuring out what you like and having enough confidence in yourself that you learn to just be. yourself. instead of selling a fake version of yourself.
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>>11438271
I'd ask about adding you on stuff if I didn't go MIA sometimes lmao. It's a really bad habit, and I definitely need to get better about responding when I dont have the energy.

I have been apart of a lot of BDSM spaces, but I tend not to be outspoken about it because most people assume I solely want to be dominated and hit (or whatever it is that booktok community likes). My scars are mostly on my thighs, but my arms have a decent amount between the two. I'm right handed, so take a wild guess which one has more.

Hey, don't talk negatively about yourself!! You are what you feed your mind and all. I personally love reading long, actually thought out, posts. I'd rather those than something you took less than a minute to write because you felt it wasn't necessary.

And, Anon, are you hitting on me? :3
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>>11438287
I completely understand what you mean, I only really date ND people now because I had the realization that NT people actually do think different from me. But, the photo attached is making me laugh like a dope. I'm not judging you, different strokes for different folks, but I wasn't expecting to see huge tits in response to me semi-venting about my shitty lovelife
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I look at basically every other person into BDSM as a dom in a 10 kilometer raidus and just know that they see extremely vulnerable girls like that as targets.

Still amazed at how I either get "psychopath" or "has only ever thought about sex" from other maledoms profiles. Although I would hope that the last one is more that a bunch of masc people will just post literally nothing on their profile except either the BDSM equivalent of them holding a fish or sometimes just literally that.

>young men, maturity
There's this thing I hear from military veterans telling stories about their time in the army that they wouldn't trust their past 19 year old self to drive a car of any kind, but the government somehow trusted them to drive a Abrams Main Battle Tank

I feel that basically every year I grow older, so there is a silver lining to bedrotting. Getting some friends to come with you as backup is great advice, but it does require friends which may or may not be a issue.

>>11438290
>Anon, are you hitting on me?

Well, depends. Are you or are you not a cat girl?

Since I was a bit mean to one recently and even gave her a demeaning slave name, one a lot like yours, although that was tailored to how I conned myself into believing she was someone else who I truly hope escaped hell and became normal.

I am glad to learn more about her if this is indeed, said neko girl. Those sensory issues suck man. I'm going to attempt to think it through and try to figure that since the dominant hand is the right you'd have more on your left arm, but that just shows how far away from doing self harm I actually am. The thighs is a bit of a surprise honestly, but I guess that's just because when I see this stuff its often the arms which are actually visible.

Oh and this neko girl goes MIA constantly. I seriously was afraid tracking her down earlier this year that I somehow killed her from the sheer psychic damage of a cold friend request.
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>>11438302
Today was my first time posting on 4chan!! I usually just scroll through it. And for the cat girl question, I've got a (meant for humans)collar and dog ears. Pretty close in terms of popular animals, but not quite.

Haha, yep! My left arm has (as a doctor described it when I went to the hospital a while ago) hundreds of scars. I unintentionally focused them on my thighs because it's easier to hide when/if I go out in the warm months. You'd be surprised how often I get told I need to cover them up

I don't want to sound like an idiot, but what exactly do you mean by the last part? I'm not sure what point you're trying to get across, if any 0.0'
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>>11438293
>but I wasn't expecting to see huge tits in response to me semi-venting about my shitty lovelife
My oddly specific tastes in women tend to bounce between extremes. And paradise is either suffocating between a giant pair of tits or having a woman with a flat chest and loving her despite it. All booba are a point of worship for me, though.
>the photo attached is making me laugh like a dope
It is supposed to be a bit silly.
>I only really date ND people now because I had the realization that NT people actually do think different from me
There's nothing wrong with dating NT people but it takes a lot of work on their part and you're just not going to sell yourself- or them- on that kind of commitment when you cut straight to a date. You'd have to co-occupy the same general space and have them acclimate to your pace and reach that point where they realize they actually adore the things that make you, you. At which point the question shifts to, "Do I want to spend my time on this?" to which the answer is usually something like, "Generally, no."
>>11438302
>they see extremely vulnerable girls like that as targets.
Yeap. The reality is that a ton of people fall into the BDSM scene because they assume it gives them easy access to easy sex and if they're not psychopaths, they're just losers. And because a sub won't explain to a dom how to do their job for them, and doms rarely ever take the time to sit down the young guns, the newbies fall back on what they know which typically involves doubling down and being a show-boating idiot.
>but it does require friends which may or may not be a issue.
This can just as easily be done online, with online friends. The dude who malds out online over a video game probably isn't someone you want to be around in meat space either. The key is that you want to see how this person behaves around other people, not just yourself. You want people who treat your friends like they treat you, but it doesn't strictly need to be friends.
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>>11438320
Oh this cat girl would know who she is. It's alright, I just don't want to get attached to more internet strangers.

You're fine, I just am pretty seriously tortured in my own mind by this neko slave at this point. I do want to ask why you called yourself "Fag anon" though. That is somewhat non-standard, to say the least.

Being able to cover them up makes a lot of sense. It does get cold where I live but there's also a pretty hot summer to go along with it, Ive always worn long sleeves due to not being happy with my body so I can see how that works with the thighs being in more danger. Just thinking logistically with feeling awful and taking it out on those thighs then...Yeah, hundreds sounds realistic. Especially if you've been feeling awful for a long time. I can see how people would get uncomfortable seeing that, even if it would just make being self conscious about that even worse.
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>>11438321
Boobs are awesome, you're right. I tend to like smaller chests myself. Women in general are real pretty to me, but that's because I just genuinely love women.

I usually date people who I've been friends with first for that reason!! Great minds I guess. In school/growing up, I'd usually have a huge crush on my bestfriend. I'm aware this sounds like I mix up platonic and romantic attraction, but I assure you I don't. The two are on a scale for me (think like a dating sim lmao), where the more I'm friends with someone, the bigger chance I'll have of getting a crush on them. I rather intentionally like people though, so liking friends hasn't been a problem as of yet! I just remembered while typing that I was telling you this to say I surround my self with neurodivergent people.. I need to get my rambling under controlll haha
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>>11438321
I'll also admit my neet / goonette girl folder ran dry about a month ago on this thread so I'm kinda scraping the bottom of the barrel for new images.
>>11438320
>Today was my first time posting on 4chan
I'd drop the trip code name. People can parse out who you are by your posting style, and the ones who don't... that's their problem. But simply having a trip code is going to make someone sperg out when you don't strictly need it.
>I don't want to sound like an idiot, but what exactly do you mean by the last part? I'm not sure what point you're trying to get across, if any 0.0'
Cat Girl Person sent LAIN poster a friend request that she never accepted. LAIN poster was afraid that leaving dead air like that caused CGP to freak out and delete herself from existence. A lot of people don't get that a lot of people do not treat online communication like they do so when people just disappear or go radio silent, they don't get that it can cause people a lot of stress. Especially when they come back up for air and pretend like nothing happened, making the other person feel stupid for even worrying.
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>>11438324
But internet strangers are so fun to talk to, 'tis the whole point of the internet XD

Hrmm, not really sure. I refer to myself as a fag/faggot a lot. I think it's the same way that Fat Amy from Pitch Perfect calls herself Fat Amy?? Silly thing to reference, but I can't think of any other examples. I'd rather call myself a fag than have someone point out the obvious? Not sure.

Hey, we also have hot summers and cold winters here!! I'm up north, and it gets SO cold.. I used to hate myself and body badly, then randomly snapped back to normal. Not sure what changed, but I'm alrightish with my body now. I had an eating disorder at one point, and the lowest I weighed during that was 100 pounds. Which, at 5'2, was not healthy. I miss that body sometimes, but then I remember how weak and low energy i was (not to mention miserable). I weigh around 125 now, and I've got some decently strong muscles! I'm not the religious type, so take the next line as me just using a phrase. Thank god my attempts didn't work. Would've never met the few people I have around me now if I succeeded

I get self conscious about them sometimes, but not often. Those days are when I have full breakdowns, usually with ugly crying, and my period starts a few days later. Hormones are one hell of a doozy if you have chemical imbalances
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>>11438338
Hrmm... Okie dokes!! I think I'll add a kittyface because I like it

OHHHHHHH, alrightalright, thank you for explaining!! I get that, I have to actively stop myself from freaking out when I don't get a response soon after talking to someone. I forget that people have, yk, lives and such
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>>11438338
Yeah basically. Whatever has happened to her she clearly has had time to figure herself out and have intentionality to whatever she's trying to do. It's just the, y'know, going from having a really high score at wasting your life rotting infront of the videogames to barely being able to play them at all that made me concerned about her executing herself without permission. She's played literally zero in the last two months but since I feel like that's intentional in some way I feel a lot better.

There's a extreme amount of lain pictures on pixiv so lets all love lain. Also people will freak out over literally everything, which yeah eventually someone will be upset about you using a name but everyone here is a rogue chat bot anyways.

>>11438345
I spent a good chunk of my life on psych meds that made me dumb enough that I was able to successfully forget what my height was when I was told it by a doctor.

If they tell me again I'm for sure going to remember but hey, I can't use it to assist in a eating disorder. It's really expensive to have too big become the same problem I could have going the other way. Fag feels a bit strange as a nickname but hey I get it, especially if you're extremely that way.

I am truly happy that you have failed. If I have ever attempted that would be a marker in my life too. Breaking down, crying, Ive had my first cries in a long time the past year. I still got a long way to go before I start a ugly cry but that part of me that just wants to comfort people at a base level activates seeing that pain.

Also it gets ridiculously cold here too. I live in fear of a naval invasion from Ohio, they're right there, but general winter should help out there.
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>>11438350
When I was on Zoloft, I was soso numb emotionally. I mean, I was also incapable of jerking off properly. So cutting myself was one of the few times I got any rush of chemicals. I'd share pics of the scars, but this isn't the thread nor website for it really. Also not something that other people consider normal now

I'd say I'm visibly queer, maybe? I have a patch of dyed/bleached hair by my bangs, and a lip piercing. Not sure if that counts, but my style is pretty alternative too

I completely get what you mean, I can't ugly cry for too long because I selfsoothe without thinking. I can't comfort other people for shit, my socializing skills are pisspoor ..!
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>>11438359
Oh im really glad Zoloft is dead and buried for me. I am able to think way better, emotions are about the same but I am about 4x more horny. Not sure what happened there.

Yeah you're for sure not the neko girl. She's been trying to figure out what I like so she can be it. Which tends to be long, straight blonde hair, a petite and skinny body, and a demeanour that shifts between cute and bubbly and defeated and submissive in the exact mixture needed in that moment.

If...Your experience of zoloft was being fully unable to jerk off and thus you did the self harm instead then yeah, hundreds is completely achievable. That's really hard to deal with my fellow internet stranger, I feel ya.
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>>11438366
>>11438359
Yeap. Classic problem with anti-depressants is that they stunt your emotional development and don't fix the problem, they just prevent you from feeling.
>I'd say I'm visibly queer, maybe? I have a patch of dyed/bleached hair by my bangs, and a lip piercing. Not sure if that counts, but my style is pretty alternative too
Alt =/= queer.
> I can't comfort other people for shit, my socializing skills are pisspoor ..!
Both are learned skills. Not to put too fine a point on it but you fix that by going out into the world.
>There's a extreme amount of lain pictures on pixiv so lets all love lain.
But this is also /d/ so I try to keep it adult oriented and I don't want to LAIN post.
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>>11438366
Apparently, Zoloft can also cause erectile dysfunction. It kills most peoples sex drive, not sure why though. My horniness isn't really back, but at least I can finish now? I used to be a proper pervert before the meds :/

>long, straight blonde hair, a petite and skinny body, and a demeanour that shifts between cute and bubbly and defeated and submissive in the exact mixture needed in that moment.

Heh, basically 6/8. I've got brown curly hair that I'm growing out (it's under my collarbones, but idk if that's considered long). I don't think I've ever change my physical appearance like that for someone, but that's because that's a lot of effort. I'm lowkey lazy, but it's okay,,

Hundreds on just my arm, I've got a bajillion on all my limbs combined
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>>11438391
>It kills most peoples sex drive, not sure why though
Serotonin dominance. SSRI's are a double-whammy for sex drive because it floods your brain with serotonin- which directly decreases desire- and also floods your brain with more serotonin, which will compete with the fun hormones like testosterone, dopamine, oxytocin and estrogen. Also why SSRI's make some people mald out and go on a shooting spree- serotonin is the dominance hormone and when reality doesn't conform to what's firing in your brain it makes some people flip out.
But yeah, you would expect a drug that floods your brain with serotonin to decrease your sex drive; serotonin is already well known to kill desire.
>I used to be a proper pervert before the meds :/
Part of that may just be getting older. I used to use all kinds of things as cum rags but now I just use a condom. But yeah, the big reason I recommend you not go on most hormone-side drugs like SSRI's and finasteride is that the negative side effects can be chronic. Adderall didn't kill my sex drive, but it did turn me into a gooner. Even after I came off it I like gooning too much to realistically stop which created it's own little hell for dating the opposite sex. My sex drive is far beyond what most women want and that was before the stimulants I was taking for late-diagnosed ADHD sent it through the roof while killing my sensitivity.
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>>11438421
Huh, didn't know they fucked with brain chemicals that much... I used to be a huuuge gooner, then I was on the meds and I jerk off like. 2 times a month, MAYBE, now

Wait wait, what's this about it killing sensitivity?? Is this a common occurance with stimulants, or just Adderall..?
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>>11438421
It's about 10pm for me right now, so my meds have worn off. My brain is not moving at its max speed. I apologize for short and low energy responses. I won't be able to say as much, perhaps. Take that with a grain of salt because my body is weird
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>>11438436
>Wait wait, what's this about it killing sensitivity?? Is this a common occurance with stimulants, or just Adderall..?
I imagine it's unique to adderall but all I know is that before I went on it, jerking off took about 30 minutes, top, and afterwards I had no problem running for two hours.
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>>11438447
THIRTY MINUTES?????? I don't last even half of that. How am I bad at jerking off too bro. My max is like, 6 minutes. Typically it's 2 minutes or less T.T
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>>11438391
>I don't think I've ever change my physical appearance like that for someone
Nah I get it. It is a pretty big step but it is also weirdly standard for the personality type that gets into the lifestyle slavery side of BDSM. They tend to want to attach to someone in some pretty extreme ways. This was a different girl entirely but I had one of them tell me that she wished that she had a lot more than just a single lifetime to give in servitude to me. That even 50 of them wouldn't be enough since I deserve a eternity of service. God that still stands out as the best thing anyone has ever said to me.

>>11438436
>jerk off 2 times a month
What.

You gotta pump those numbers up. Your goon levels are low.

>>11438452
>THIRTY MINUTES??????
Yeah I have no idea man.

You're not going to have any problems edging atleast.
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>>11438453
Panties would be a-dropping if a woman said that to me, shit

But but then I start overheating and I get sweaty and then I feel like I have to dry off with a 360 dryer or something.

... You'd uh, you'd think..! I can't edge more than twice or I start crying. WHICH REMINDS ME!!!!! of something that happened to me a while ago. Okay, so, I am forgetful. I have vibrators (plural). I forgot to charge them. I was jerking off, you know, mixing up the routine by edging. I get to about 3 times before I'm like "Right, this has to end." Mind you, I'm literally less than a second away from finishing. Vibrator dies on me. Sucks, but it's okay, I have others. I go and grab the two others I had in a drawer or smth. I am on edge again, second vibrator dies and I tear up a little. I switch to the third vibrator, am on edge, THIRD VIBRATOR DIES. I start full on sobbing because I can't get myself off otherwise (not without taking forever; my wrist would hurt/cramp)

This has happened twice btw, both times I cried about it
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>>11438460
I'm not sure why I'm talking on a board like I do in texts?? I apologize for the sudden casual-ness of my words lmao
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>>11438452
Part of it was having the magical penis mutilation ritual performed on me when I wasn't even self aware or conscious and my parents were too dumb to object. Could have been a lot worse but I have less than half the sensitivity I should have. While on adderal I also had less generalized sensitivity so it'd take longer to get going, take longer to hit anything interesting, and take much longer to hit an orgasm. Even off adderal that reduced sensitivity never left so it turns into a frustrating game of navigating lust and libido because if I'm too aggressive I'll just have an unenjoyable prejack bust, but if I don't go fast enough I'm sitting there edging for four goddamn hours.
And no, it isn't all fun and games, finding women who are even remotely sexually compatible is already difficult, finding one I'm sexually compatible with who also has the libido to match is nigh impossible.
>>11438391
>I don't think I've ever change my physical appearance like that for someone, but that's because that's a lot of effort. I'm lowkey lazy, but it's okay
Yeah, you don't want to do that. If you want to try a new style, that's one thing, but nothing good ever comes from doing it to try and make someone else happy. If you hate it, you'll resent having to keep it up, and if you don't, but your partner does, they'll resent you for stopping it.
>>11438453
>They tend to want to attach to someone in some pretty extreme ways.
The reality of being a dom is that you're frequently having to invest the time and effort and emotional energy of putting a woman back together and teaching her how to be stable again and having to accept that at the end of it all, doing the right thing will also mean she (likely) wont be with you. Which is fine- you expect that- but the annoying part is the bit where you're undoing the damage of every loser, psychopath and dweeb that ever inflicted themselves on her did.
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>>11438460
>Panties would be a-dropping if a woman said that to me, shit
Sets off red flags for me. I mean, I'd love to have a woman give that level of submission and devotion to me but that's earned and for them to front load it in a relationship... yeah, I'm probably throwing the brakes and my balls will be blue for a week or two.
>I start full on sobbing because I can't get myself off otherwise
Sounds like you need a bigger collection. I'd ramp it up to at least six. I'd also mix it up a bit and also get some rotors.
>>11438461
There's almost no such thing as over-sharing, we're all anonymous here. Filtering your responses is, if anything, a bad thing. There's no reason to put on airs so you may as well present yourself as you are.



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