Post anything related to Futanari and discuss any topic related to Futanari. Male-looking Futanari allowed. Do not post anything else than Futanari.previous thread >>11426003
>>11449713>previous thread only on page 9bit early there, /d/ is slow as hell you know.
>>11449713Add this to the OP next timehttp://rentry.co/futanaritag
>>11449856you're just encouraging derailing the thread with pedantic arguments and retardation
So... Is it required that both male & female reproductive organs must be on same body?Or capability to both impregnate and be impregnated on same body; either lack one of the two reproductive organs, but remaining reproductive organ evolved to function on hybrid modes?For instance: have breasts, and penis but lack vagina BUT either anal or urethral birth is allowed?
>>11449877So what's your suggestion?
>>11449879Both sets of genitals should be there, Though if the angle does not naturally position itself to show that both are present, its fine
>>11449881NTA, but this IS an IMAGEboard...
>>11449991>Although I'm not sure how it would interact with the sex chromosomes.It doesn't have to. You can just put the "futa gene" on any of the 46 chromosomes, even if it's not one of the sex chromosomes. The gene itself will have the "give both reproductive systems"' blueprint.If you put it on the non-sex chromosomes, and have it be recessive, then I don't see any problems. Females and males that are born with two instances of this gene will be futa. I guess males would be masculine futa?However,>In my settings a child to two futas could be of any sex, male, female or both.Would be a no. If the parents are futa, and futa is a recessive gene, then their children will also be futa since the parents have the futa gene on both of the chromosomes.If you put the futa gene on a sex chromosome, things get a bit more complicated. If you put it on the Y, a futa can never sire a male ('cause that male would have the futa gene) and every male they sire would be a futa. If a futa wants to have a male child, they can only bare one (not sire), and it would have to be sired from a non-futa male.If you put it on the X, no non-futa male would be able to sire a futa daughter. What's more, the mother also needs to be at least a carrier of the futa gene for the daughter to actually have a chance at being futa. For the sons, the father's gene has no say in whether or not he'll be futa; Only the mother.>but as I said I prefer a scenario that results in a biological sex free-for-all.Thinking of how to make this possible (in a realistic fiction sense) sounds fun. If I come up with an idea that might be interesting, I'll post it.>>11449856No. I still don't agree with what you have there.
>>11449877That happens anyway and this thread is is for discussion.>>11449914There are pictures inside that explain this without unnecessarily including loli for no reason.>>11450007Which part?
>>11449856>>11449881just manually post it every thread, it doesn't need to be in the OP>>11449914this one is fine too>>11449991>Sleeper cell futas are funFor some reason, I just remembered Elfen Lied. Imagine having sex with a futanari changed your DNA and made it so that only futanari can be born out of you, like some sexual parasitism. DNA altering futa sex is already a thing but generally it's futa virus or male feminization.>>11449879The asshole and urethra are not genitals, it's only dick and vagina that are mandatory. Anything else is something else, it's not because you see some weird ovipositor dick alien monster that he's futa.
>>11449914>futa loli
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>>11450007>it doesn't have toyeah it doesn't, it's just a very intuitive setup since they're literally the chromosomes that determine sex, and futa is neither just male or just female.Having it on a non-sex chromosome is probably the most versatile setup in terms of inheritability though.>Would be a no. If the parents are futa, and futa is a recessive gene, then their children will also be futa since the parents have the futa gene on both of the chromosomes.if its on the Y, then a futa could only sire females or futas, but a futa could bear a male if she were impregnated by a male.>If you put it on the X, no non-futa male would be able to sire a futa daughterOh... yeah that makes sense. I totally missed that. Any male would be guarranteed to not have the gene since if he had it in his one X he'd be a futa.>>11450025>Imagine having sex with a futanari changed your DNA and made it so that only futanari can be born out of you, like some sexual parasitismthat's very much the kind of scenario I said I heavily disliked.I meant more like sleeper cell agents that lay dormant until they're activated, like recessive genes being passed through multiple generations without manifesting in the phenotype of the individuals until one offspring pulls the right cards so that the dormant futa-gene can be expressed.
>>11450089>if its on the Y, then a futa could only sire females or futas, but a futa could bear a male if she were impregnated by a male.Sorry, I meant specifically for the non-sex chromosomes having the recessive futa gene. If it's on the non-sex, two futa parents can only produce futas. Reading your example though had me realize that putting the futa gene on the Y is equivalent to an XZ situation (which I know you're trying to avoid). Futas would be XZ since the futa gene overrides the male gene in the Y.XX + XY -> XX or XYXX + XZ -> XX or XZXZ + XY -> XX or XYXZ + XZ -> XX or XZ>>11450017>So what's your suggestion?>>11450018>Which part?Again? Didn't we go over this? And towards the end I'm pretty sure you said you gave up on this or that you no longer care.
>>11449991>Sleeper cell futas are fun.>>11450089>I meant more like sleeper cell agents that lay dormant until they're activated, like recessive genes being passed through multiple generations without manifesting in the phenotype of the individuals until one offspring pulls the right cards so that the dormant futa-gene can be expressed.In that case what about a gene for sequential simultaneous hermaphroditism? IRL we have 2 types of hermaphroditism: sequential hermaphrodites (they may change from male to female or vice versa, and may or may not be permanent after the change) and simultaneous hermaphrodites (are both male and female at the same time). But for your situation, maybe humans can be a sequential simultaneous hermaphrodite. Let's say it's a recessive gene on a non-sex chromo. If it's on both chromos that person is born a futa. If they are just a carrier (on just one chromo) and if their environment has a high sex ratio by puberty (like 65%+ male or 65%+ female) they become a futa (and stay a futa). Otherwise, they stay male or female. Non-carriers are still just male or female, no matter the environment. With this you can have situations where (carrier) males or females can produce futa children, and (carrier) futas can produce males and females. Would this work in your setting? Or would it be better the futa-ness is simpler and determined at birth?
>>11449856Based factual anon
>>11450119the reason I said that i dislike a hypothetical third type of sex chromosome isn't because of its resulting inheritability properites, but because it would imply that futas aren't both sexes but a third thing.>if the futa-gene is on a non-sex chromosome and ressesive then two futas could only produce another futaHere's the question though:If that child had futa-gene by necessity, because both futa parents must have had it, but had XX sex chromosomes... then how would it be able to grow a dick?My surface level understanding is that without a Y chromosome you wouldn't be able too.In that scenario two futas could make a futa daughter but also a non-futa XX daughter (who still only has the futa-gene twice but not the phenotype because she's got no Y)Of course that assumption about Y being a necessity for dick could be totally wrong, or could just be made to be wrong in the setting.But it would feel incorrect.That said while Y being a requirement feels correct it also feels a bit unsatisfying because we usually think of futas as women with dicks, instead of being modified males.Its just the reality that males have both types of sex chromosomes and females only have one (twice).
>>11450129I guess "sleeper cell" isn't communicating what I intended.I just assumed futa-ness being genetically determined at birth, like biological sex,but being able to be inherited through generations of non-futa individuals.Your hypothetical with clownfish-like sequential hermaphroditism could make for interesting scenarios, but it wasn't what I had in mind at all.
>>11450165>My surface level understanding is that without a Y chromosome you wouldn't be able too.The Y chromo holds the SRY gene. That's the gene that initiates an embryo to become a male. It's not that the Y is necessarily special, but that gene. In fact, sometimes that gene moves over to the X chromo and thus you get XX male syndrome shenanigans (this is a real condition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XX_male_syndrome). In this situation there's no Y chromo, but the girl may have a penis. In the fictional situation we're talking about, we have a perfect futa gene for convenience. This gene can give the holder both fully functional reproductive systems. Whether it's on a sex chromo or non-sex chromo wont matter. If it's on a non-sex chromo, Xs and Ys will become irrelevant in deciding if the holder is futa or not (since the sex chromos wont carry the gene).>it also feels a bit unsatisfying because we usually think of futas as women with dicks, instead of being modified males.In a sense, males are modified females. Without the SRY gene to initiate the masculine process, the child will likely become a female. But as I said previously, you don't have to put the futa gene on the Y, so you don't have to worry about them seeming like modified males.
>>11450202ohhh...that's very interesting>If it's on a non-sex chromo, Xs and Ys will become irrelevant in deciding if the holder is futa or not yeah that would absolutely work. That works out pretty nicely.If you could have both XY and XX futas that would also mean that some futas could not produce male children with females (and other XX futas), but other futas could.Interesting consequence. I guess "male" as a trait would then also be recessive in a sense.The futa-gene would overwrite the male phenotype in individuals with XY and the futa gene.different topic but the wikipedia article you linked also mentioned another syndrome where peole actually do have XXY sex chromosomes as I hypothesized about in my initial post,although of course they don't end up as futa but mostly just as infertile males.
>>11450253>If you could have both XY and XX futas that would also mean that some futas could not produce male children with females (and other XX futas), but other futas could. Interesting consequence.You're right. I didn't think of that. I wonder if this means the female population would increase.>The futa-gene would overwrite the male phenotype in individuals with XY and the futa gene.If you wish it to be so for your settings, then yeah that can be the case. Generally speaking, masculine futas (otoko futa) are also futas. Being a futa doesn't have to make them have a female appearance. Most of us prefer them as feminine so we usually ignore or forget masculine futas exist.>different topic but the wikipedia article you linked also mentioned another syndrome where peole actually do have XXY sex chromosomes as I hypothesized about in my initial postIf you're interested in SRY disorders here is a good summary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex-determining_region_Y_protein#SRY_disorders'_influence_on_sex_expression
>>11450119>Again? Didn't we go over this? And towards the end I'm pretty sure you said you gave up on this or that you no longer care.The shemale vs dickgirl conversation is not the focus, the reality vs fiction of shemale and dickgirl didn't make sense to you. The dickgirl vs shemale title was removed because it's not the focus. The definitions currently there are correct. The way I thought we left of is, I won't say they are the same thing because shemale has a real world meaning and dickgirl doesn't, but I don't have a problem with e-hentai using the term shemale for fictional characters because they are functionally the same. I'm just assuming here, I'm not sure what your real problem is.
>>11449944Please don't molest your pets.
>>11449991I always liked Z being the futa gene, but it only manifests in ZZ configuration. In any other configuration Z acts like an X, so XZ is phenotypically female and ZY is phenotypically male. But if an XZ female and a ZY male have a child together, there is a 1/4 chance the child is a ZZ futa. Meanwhile all children of futa are either futa themselves or are carriers of the futa genes.ZZ futa x ZZ futa would always breed true.ZZ futa x XZ female is 50% XZ female, 50% ZZ futa offspring.ZZ futa x XX female is 100% XZ female offspring.ZZ futa x YZ male is 50% YZ male, 50% ZZ futa.ZZ futa x XY male is 50% YZ male, 50% XZ female.
>>11450324>I'm not sure what your real problem is.I don't agree with your definitions. I'm not saying all of them I disagree with, but it's enough to where I'm against this link. One of the common issues I see with them is that you define some based on if you've only seen them in fiction or not. Take futanari for example. You say "It is a fictional person and doesn't have a real life counterpart" within your definition, but I wouldn't define futanari like that.If I was to edit what you have, it'd be something like:>Futanari (ふたなり) translates to dual form and also translates to hermaphrodite. Often abbreviated as futa. A hermaphrodite is both male and female, i.e. they produce both sperm and egg. Generally one cannot assess this by appearance, so genital implication is used. If there are female genitals (vulva, vagina, uterus, etc.), it is implied a female. If there are male genitals (penis, testicles, etc.) it is implied a male. If there are both, it is implied a hermaphrodite, and thus futa. A feminine futanari (i.e. looks like a female) is an onno futanari, whereas a masculine futanari (i.e. looks like a male) is an otoko futanari.I would personally stop here, but I don't disagree with your statements that testicles can be internal or external, that a clit can become the penis, and that it is expected that a futa can both bare and sire.(I don't know japanese and don't actually know if futa translates to dual form, but I'll take your word on it.)
>>11450468Because you have to explain that some things are not real. We know this, but not everyone does. Intersex, Trans, shemale are all real things that could be confused for futanari. A person with two full sets of genitals doesnt exist, it only exists in fiction. "How is sex determined?" Covers the bit about the gametes for people who are interested. What a futanari is, is more about a penis and vagina than it is sperm and eggs, but that naturally follows of course.
>>11450566>Because you have to explain that some things are not real.No. If people are confusing futa for other stuff, the solution is not to define futa as "not real". It is to give it a proper definition.>A person with two full sets of genitals doesnt exist, it only exists in fiction.That is coincidence, not definition. One major problem from defining futa as fiction is if an IRL futa happens. We already have a number of intersex situations of people with irregular or mismatched genitals. We've even had a case where someone produced both sperm and egg, and even sired a child. It may not have happened yet, but I have seen no proof that one day a true futa can't be born. If it does come to past that a futa does get born, be it naturally or by technological advances, or that humans become hermaphrodites at some point, your definition states they cannot be futa because they are real people. I heavily disagree with this. You not having seen a futa irl doesn't not mean you should define it as fiction. That is backwards. You define what a futa is, and whether or not that defined entity has appeared irl or not is another matter. If you want to say "there are no recorded cases of futas" then that's fine, but don't define it as fiction.
the non one shot version of my waspgirl manga is now in production with the prologue being inked when i have spare time over the coming weeksi will post the progress when i get the chance to make ityou can also read the older manga chapters on exh https://e-hentai.org/uploader/onion+jigoku
>>11449879>So... Is it required that both male & female reproductive organs must be on same body?Generally, yes. There's two common edge cases: you can have futas with no balls, just a dick and pussy, and futas where the clit grows to function as a penis. The vagina is always mandatory, and an erectile penis-like organ is always mandatory. The emphasis is on being equipped to both give and receive vaginal intercourse.>>11450007Speaking of futas without balls, one way to do genetics is XY futas having both testicles and ovaries, and XX futas only having ovaries. To get a free-for-all with unpredictable babies, instead of just requiring 2 instances of a futa gene, have different results for different numbers of the futa gene appearing on any of the 46 chromosomes. This lets you include all kinds of exotic sub-types of futas, and total takeover can be prevented by having exotic features make futa propagation peak at 23/46 and decline as it approaches 46/46.>>11450253>>11450307The logical metagame for males being "recessive" is futas regard men as sex objects who owe futas sex, and the rarer males get, the more futas think it's a status symbol to get impregnated by a male.>>11450444This can be further complicated by having W as a modified X and Z as a modified Y, and triple chromosome setups becoming perfectly functional when there's at least one W or Z.
>>11450702Science fiction is defined as science fiction even if it's theoretically possible the space aliens in the sci-fi story could be real. Futa is a concept from mythology (the same way the hermaphrodite concept was introduced in Greek mythology). It remains fiction until it's discovered, just like how space aliens and Greek gods are fiction until discovered.
>>11450739>and XX futas only having ovaries.Where would their sperm come from if it's only ovaries?>>11450747Having no irl examples of something and being defined as fiction are two different things. "Science fiction", itself, is a type of fiction and defined as such. Aliens are not defined as fiction. Aliens are defined as extraterrestrial life. Whether or not they exist only in fiction is a matter separate from their definition. To be an alien does not require one to exist only in fiction.
>>11450751>Having no irl examples of something and being defined as fiction are two different things.A concept that comes from fiction is in fact defined as fiction. "There's no irl examples" doesn't make everything nonfiction.>To be an alien does not require one to exist only in fiction.You're claiming little green men from Mars in fictional stories exist in real life just because you can't find a law of physics against it. You've shot yourself in the foot and proven my point.
>>11450767>"There's no irl examples" doesn't make everything nonfiction.I've made no such claim. I said "Having no irl examples of something and being defined as fiction are two different things.">You're claiming little green men from Mars in fictional stories exist in real life just because you can't find a law of physics against it.I've made no such claim. I said "Aliens are defined as extraterrestrial life. Whether or not they exist only in fiction is a matter separate from their definition. To be an alien does not require one to exist only in fiction."I think this is it then? You've reached the point where you're pulling things I never claimed out of the air and arguing against it. I don't think we'll reach an agreement like this. If nothing changes, then I guess this ends here.
>>11450702mental illness, you'd be happier if you would understand that the futanari fetish is 100% fictional and doesn't existclosest you can get is huge massive clit-dick ftm(but still feminine looking) tranniesalso sex is defined not by DNA but by genitals and in the case there is a true hermaphrodite that doesn't look ugly like most genetic fuckups, calling it "futa" would be cringe so at the end of the day it still wont be irl futa but irl hermaphrodites
>>11450773>clean it up janny on the rightporn so inclusive that even jannies can feel validated!
>>11450702It is given a proper definition, that futanari have both sex organs, only then is it stated that it is fictional.It's not a coincidence. Futanari can only be observed in the imagination and in drawings. If a real life equivalent of futanari is possible, the word futanari may be used to describe them or something else. That is a problem for whenever that happens, if it happens. You believe it is likely to happen, but that's still in your imagination. >>11450773You can define alien without including that they are fictional, but they are fictional. You want to separate a boolean flag of IsFictional from definitions because you hope that futanari will exist one day, but a definition is what something is, and if it is fictional, that is part of the definition.
>>11450739>and the rarer males get, the more futas think it's a status symbol to get impregnated by a malerecessive doesn't mean that the the gene gets rarer and rarerit just means that the gene takes a backseat if other genes interfere.normally it specifically refers needing the gene on both copies of a given chromosome for the body to actually have the mutation.https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=86143176Other genes (dominant genes) express themselves even if you only have one copy of itBut in that hypothetical case it would be resessive in the sense that if an individual had male-genes (i.e. XY) and also the futa-gene twice, the futa-gene would take precedence and they'd be a futa.However that is only for the phenotype of the individual itself. What genes they pass down to children is independend from that.
Fattie/thick futas
>>11450777>>11450912You have literally no idea what you're talking about.Definitions exist to facillitate communication. They're not a list of all facts about a thing.It's so when I see a thing, I can go>look it has traits XYZ>its a [blank]And so that when I say "consider a [blank]" a listener knows what I'm talking about.Existence is completely orthogonal to that.Saying something "exists/doesn't-exist by definition" is just a categorical error.It's as coherent as saying "Colorless green ideas sleep furiously"Let me define a troo to be a non-existent tree.Now imagine a troo.....see how pointless and nonsensical it is?Yes. Futas don't exist, neither does bigfoot.But if I see a 9ft bipedal hairy man-ape hybrid in the forests of north america, guess what I WOULD call that.And guess what I WOULD call a woman with natural born and functioning breasts, vagina and penis.
>>11450975>They're not a list of all facts about a thing.>It's so when I see a thing, I can go>>look it has a XYZ (a list of facts)>>its a [blank]Nigga are you for real? >>11450975>And guess what I WOULD call a woman with natural born and functioning breasts, vagina and penis.And guess what describes a futanari like this? There is a definition there. But it also says it's not real. So basically, I'm not allowed to mention that its not real, because that could be confused as saying a hermaphrodite is fictional and could never happen in humans in the future, despite only saying this once and reinforcing the definition multiple times throughout.
>>11450975Uh oh, this Japanese man from Japan who researched the history futanari from its country of origin actually doesnt know anything because he said futanari is fiction! https://nhentai.net/g/455238/10/I guess we have to throw it out. Doesn't he know that fictionality isn't relevant to definitions?
>>11451001>Nigga are you for real? Yes I am for real and don't call me nigga>So basically, I'm not allowed to mention that its not realYes. Existence (and non-existence) cannot be part of a definition just like ideas cannot sleep.Go read up on some philosophy>There is a definition there. But it also says it's not realYour useless, incoherent definition might say that.>>11451002yes people from japan can be wrong about stuff too. pretty radical I know.
>>11451005A futanari is someone with both male and female sex organs. What part of this is incoherent?
>>11450912>It is given a proper definition, that futanari have both sex organs, only then is it stated that it is fictional.>...but a definition is what something is, and if it is fictional, that is part of the definition.Sounds like you're saying futanari is defined as fictional, yes?>Futanari can only be observed in the imagination and in drawings. If a real life equivalent of futanari is possible, the word futanari may be used to describe them or something else. That is a problem for whenever that happens, if it happens.That is a problem for now. If you're basing your definition on whether or not you have observed futa irl, then that is not a proper definition. That is a subjective definition, one based on your experience. I would expect a proper definition to be objective.I disagree with this definition that requires a futa to be fictional. A futa is a futa no matter if a person has seen them only in fiction or not.
>>11451048Would you disagree with this?Defintion: A futanari is someone with both male and female sex organs. True Statement: It is a fictional person and doesn't have a real life counterpart.
>>11450975you're beyond retarded and the worst poster itt outside of trannyfags who want to subvert futanarican't help yourself but always bring dramafaggotry using stupid shit no one care like fake chromosomes and pestering everyone with other stupid shit
>>11451074I wouldn't readily agree with it. If we're being strict:Assumption: Futanari is a japanese term for hermaphrodite.Definition: A futanari/hermaphrodite is both male and female.True Statement: The are no recorded cases of fully functional human futanaris/hermaphrodites.Is something I could agree with. I don't know how strict to be since I don't know the scope of the point you're making.
>>11451002Historically futanari was used to refer to intersex people. If you look at the previous page in Yana's work he's mostly concerned with causing offense to actual intersex people and it's more of a recommendation than a strict definition.The Japanese wikipedia says "現代では主に(成人向けの)創作物における概念として使用される。", in the current era it's mainly used as a concept in (adult-oriented) fictional works. So I think it's just weird to use it for real people, not absolutely incorrect.
>>11451107No recorded cases means someone made it up, it came from their mind, it's fiction.
>>11451185non-gyaru chocolate futa are kinda rare thinking about it
>>11451124What point are you making? Bare in mind we're talking about the definition or defining what futanari is. Futanari should not be defined as being fictional.
>>11451352Prove that futanari aren't fictional.
>>11451393Again, what point are you making?
>>11451352stop being obnoxious, no one will call a real hermaphrodite a Futanari should it even exist except for retarded porn addicts like you. It's like going outside your mom's basement and calling trannies as "shemale", it's a porn term.The fact you keep shitting up the thread with this, tell me you are either underaged and don't understand that his fetish will never happen for him or you are autistic and thus mentally retarded. Useless argumentation for the sake of just having the last word
>>11451411>ad hominemI take it you're a different Anon? If you're the same, we can't continue like this. Attacking my character would only cause a digression.
Headcanon, I wanted female Saiyans with pseudo-penises
>>11451411>>11451108Greek mythology right?
>>11451436The idea of a human hermaphrodite is universal because dudes want to fuck a girl with a dick. For the greeks, it's probably the other way around. Knowing them, they most likely wanted to fuck twinks and get them pregnant so they could disregard femoids.It was always fictional, if you look at intersex people they don't look good because they are genetic anomalies. Otherwise there would have carved a massive share in the realm of porn but instead it's the mtf trannies who took the share of "girls" with dick.You motherfuckers need to understand that the fetish is fictional otherwise you fags aren't different from trannies who took their fetish too far irl. There is a difference between wishing something was real but accepting it isn't and never will be and ignoring all facts because you are incapable of accepting the truth.We had that fucking conversation many times by now.As for simply using the term "futanari" to describe real people, no it's simply cringe and not even true. There is no true hermaphrodite intersex person and even fake(both genitals but they can't be used) ones are probably not real either. It's mostly malformed dicks/vagina hybrids at the closest. If humans herms existed, they wouldn't be "intersex" they would be herms not some fucky fuckers between sexes and still wouldn't be called "futanari". Imagine going outside and calling every women as "onna" because it's the term I seen used in le japanass erotic animanga. That's wapanese behavior and to reinterate the previous post it's also brainless porn addict behavior.
I think the best option for a futa genotype is to repurpose kleinfelters syndrome, a sex chromosome trisomy, with either some pleiotropic effects or a medical breakthrough that would make an xxy individual become a futa instead Inheritance could then be governed by gametes as we know themxxy produces xx and xy and x and yxx produces xxy produces x and yxx + x = xxx xx + y = xxy futaxy + x = xxy futaxy + y = xyy Thus you have children from pairings:Futa x woman xxy * xxxxxxxy futaxxxyFuta x man xxy * xyxxxxxy futaxxy futaxyyFuta x futa xxy * xxyxxxxxxxyxxxxxy futaxxxyxxyyxxy futa xyy xxxxxy futaxxxyxxy futaxyyxyyyFuta x xxx woman xxy * xxxxxxxxxxxxxyxxy futaThere's already plenty of xxx women around, most have fairly normal lives, it's more common than triplets, but we could pretend that the same thing that makes xxy people futas makes xxx women suffer no ill effects of their trisomy, so if we include them we also get a bit of an increase in xxx * xy pairings creating futa too, we'll just leave the Jacob's syndrome xyy people alone as they are, and handwave the people with tetrasomy that arise from futa * futa and futa * xxx pairings away, then we get the following ratios of offspringFuta x woman: 1/4 futa 1/4 xxx and 1/2 normalFuta x man: 1/2 futa 1/4 xxx and 1/4 Jacob's Futa x futa: 1/4 futa 1/4 tetrasomy (we pretend these are all non viable) 1/8 xxx 1/8 Jacob's 3/16 normal and 1/16 you non viableFuta x xxx woman: 1/4 futa 1/2 tetrasomy 1/4 xxx womenCombined with the slightly higher numbers of xxx women out there you get a steadily growing population of futa, but preserve normal sexes too, although over the long term they'd fall to a smaller proportion of the population with futas making up the majority
>>11451352>>11451408You've been reduced to playing dumb after he proved it's fiction. If your "argument" is telling us you're too illiterate to read plain English, then case closed. If you think nothing is fiction unless it's arbitrarily "defined" to be then when I say you've just been raped, that's non-fiction. Therefore, you just got raped.
Here's how I explain futanari genetics in my lore book. I think a Z chromosome is necessary, otherwise a futanari would have to be XY, because you can only have a penis with a Y, making them a male with a disorder. The Z chromosome is the third sex chromosome found in humans responsible for the futanari sex. The futanari chromosomal pairing is XZ. Hermaphrogenesis is a rare occurrence where spermatogenesis in males produces only three viable sperm rather than the normal four. Hermaphrogenesis occurs during meiosis stage two, one of the daughter nuclei fails to divide evenly resulting in a failed sperm containing no sex chromosomes and a viable sperm with both sex chromosomes. A fusion of the sex chromosomes in the viable sperm creates the Z chromosome. Hermaphrogenesis allows a male to father a futanari with a female mother.Spermatogenesis in futanari is significantly different. The first stage of meiosis occurs twice resulting in four XY daughter nuclei. After stage two, there are four X sperm and four Z sperm. A third stage of meiosis occurs, two X sperm are used to split the Z sperm resulting in two Y sperm. In the end, there are two of each X, Y, and Z sperms.Since oocytes start with XZ chromosomes in futanari, oogenesis is similarly changed. In addition to normal X chromosome carrying ova, there are an equal amount of Z chromosome ova. The Z chromosome ova are different in the way that Y carrying sperm cannot fertilize it.This way a male, female, and futanari are possible from each sexually reproductive pair.
>>11451461For the sake of completenessxxx woman x man xxx * xyxxxxxy futaxxxyAll with 1/4 proportionsxyy male with xx woman xyy * xx (xy, xy, yy, x, y + x)xxy futaxxy futaxyyxxxyxyy man x xxx woman xyy * xxx (xy, yy, x, y + xx, x)xxxyxxyyxxxxxy futaxxy futaxyyxxxySo proportions are 1/4 tetrasomy, 1/8 xxx, 1/4 futa, 1/8 xyy, 1/8 xx, 1/8 xyMy approximate napkin math leads to a stable population distribution of about 1/4 futa, 3/16 xxx, 1/8 xyy, 3/16 xx, 3/16 xy, and the rest as whatever else, so if we're pretending that trisomy xxx and xyy have no ill effects then you end up with a society made up of 6/16 women, 5/16 men, and 4/16 futas, and then a whole lot of tetrasomy retards
>these science encyclopaediasI like settings where any random woman can experience sudden futanization (or defutanization)
>>11451087Pencildick sensei.
>>11449713Man I miss this artist.
genetic in hentai is stupid as fuck because none of you studied beyond high school biology and it shows
