Themed Questions:>How would a man find his slave wives(auctions, arranged Marriages, etc.)?>What sets wives apart from other slave women/what privileges are they given?>Is there any real Courtship or are women sold purely as products?>Any sort of eugenics or specialized training when it comes to slave wives?Last Thread>>11429038Archives:https://archived.moe/d/search/subject/Patriarchy/https://desuarchive.org/d/search/subject/Patriarchy/Disclaimer:This thread is for fetishizing a patriarchy where it's biological men being Doms and biological Women as Subs
So what would happen if the government decreed women were property overnight, would the military and police start marching into cities right away? Or would they be condoned off and slowly strangled?
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>>11456864Nah if you do that it's going to be your limited forces that will be encircled and destroyed piecemeal. Take it from me.What you're going to want to do is make change like that slow enough to stomach for a lot of the population, alongside consolidating power in a specific smaller geographical area for when the dramatic changes are needed. A society based around open and total female slavery will be in a semi-permanent war state with its neighbours, which is why preparing for a warfare that is not total and instead might just be a way of getting new slaves in a few generations is needed. Transforming society on a continent wide scale is unlikely to succeed, building those chains in the shadows in a specific region for when global order becomes unsustainable is the only reasonable way.If your patriarchal slaver enclave is good enough at producing propaganda you might be able to get enough slaves just by girls in surrounding regions who saw the completely stupefied yanderes that are filmed constantly and know they want that bliss for themselves, no slaver raids needed, but where's the fun in that?
>>11456885Nah, what you do is wait for a major regional/worldwide event. Especially something like a world war. So many young men that died on the front lines, how terrible. Those that are left are either lucky, unfit for service, or powerful enough to get out of it.Now you have so many women that need a man to take care of them. But a man can't take care of tens of women on his own! At least, not if they have full rights and privileges of a free person. So it becomes commonplace to sign some of those away in exchange for the attention and security that comes with being married to a man.Other regions can't get involved. After all, it's to prevent a major decline in birthrate!
>>11456860Wasn't expecting autistic world building to win. >>11456864You boil the frog. What you're describing would fail to the scale of years because you can't control a population with an army. What you want is slow, gradual social change. Starts with a few things here and there- tax breaks for families are re-packaged as, 'bachelor taxes.' Sex based discrimination in pay gets repackaged as 'freedom to rest' for women, even as men aggressively out-earn them. The more it sounds like it is to the benefit of women, even while undermining them, the better.To the scale of generations eventually someone says, "Why not make women property?" and no one even bats an eye.>>11456891The problem is that wars tend to preferentially select for the kind of men who would lead to go get shot like a dog.
>>11456895Imma be honest here, there are two main reasons why a slow strategy wouldn't work. First: It would mean I'd be dead long before that change arises. (Or at the very least, too old to properly enjoy it.) And if it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen while I'm still around.Second: You need a catalyst. Some form of event, usually, that creates/exposes a major problem. Need to make people say "okay, at least for now". Without some ideal or problem to rally behind or against, social reform tends to wither and die. Then once the time of crisis is finished, people are simply so used to the new lifestyle that they don't want to change. They'll see how much better they have it. Especially with such a subject as touchy and sensitive as women's rights. It'll be hard to budge, but once the metaphorical ball gets rolling, people will realize nature won't let it stop. Now don't get me wrong, a social change of this scale can't happen overnight. That change would be a catalyst for female supremacists to gain the upper hand. But it must start strong and quickly gain momentum.
>>11456860>How would a man find his slave wives(auctions, arranged Marriages, etc.)?Depends the degree of progress of the society. In my case online orders are common place and so is custom ordering a bride from specialized (and certified) groomers who are dedicated to raising entire families with specific traits. I'm thinking a 2010 level world, more modern versions will also allow to order genetically/cybernetic enhnaced brides depending how much you're willing to pay.>What sets wives apart from other slave women/what privileges are they given?There are no free women. Either they're slaves living pampered or tragic lives, or they're attached to permanent milkers/the free use docks to be plowed and milked over and over of their fluids.>Is there any real Courtship or are women sold purely as products?Product placement, everything is cold and dedicated to Master's satisfaction.>Any sort of eugenics or specialized training when it comes to slave wives?Major corporations dedicate themselves to perfecting slave girls with specific traits such as bloodlines focused around purity, or fit girls, or girls with huge assets.
>>11457127>You need a catalyst.The problem with a catalyst is that it creates an expectation that things go back to 'normal' eventually. It's the entire reason I placed the Kith setting squarely in a place where such an idea can't happen because there's a clear break with the old world. >First: It would mean I'd be dead long before that change arises.And that is why you will fail. Conservatives tend to suck and blindly adhere to their politics because they're old and for few other reasons but at least they have the bare bones of generational continuity covered. The average revolutionary fails even the most basic of hurdles because they can't even think five years out, let alone to the scale of generations. Whatever your patriarchal society ends up being, it needs to be fixated on the basics like how they intend to pass the torch onto the youth. >But it must start strong and quickly gain momentum.You can't do that without building entire generations of strong nuclear families and you can't do that without engaging in this to the scale of generations. >>11457463>There are no free women. Either they're slaves living pampered or tragic lives, or they're attached to permanent milkers/the free use docks to be plowed and milked over and over of their fluids.Eh, in Kith Society while there are women who are 'liberated' in the sense they have no debt and are not recognized as property, that usually only exists within a framework where they loop back around to being functional slaves. They're still tethered to their father, or husband, their work is still subservient to men and while they might make respectable money it's because kith patriarchs will pay a jealous ransom to have the services of a skilled female doctor / midwife, or the best courtesan in the territory.
