Amazing /d/iscussion last couple threads, please keep it upPrevious: >>11449168QOTT 1: Do you prefer wholesome and sweet stories, or fucked up and brutal ones?QOTT 2: Why did the matriarchy happen?Notable works (please suggest more): https://mangabuddy.com/the-world-of-moral-reversal/chapter-1
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>>11468257>Women need to not just be bigger, but be an amazonian 7-8 foot in size, to be able to hunt, fight, compete with females, and mate with males, whilst being multiply pregnant.>As a coincidence, childbirth is much easier.>>11468252Could be pseudoscience or not, but...>There's less drive for women to interact socially or emotionally with men, as men tend to lose their personhood over time spent with them.>You can't employ a male, because it could be harmful to him, and his capacities will go down along with his personal identity.>They already tend to latch on as codependents in interactions anyhow. That just gets worse the longer it lasts.>When women go for a husband, personality is very much secondary to abilities and physical characteristics. Those won't change over time, but his behavior will mold itself to hers.>Wheras for a male, it's EXTRA important to be chaste when dealing with members of the opposite sex.>Fleeting personal interactions. If you date, you date once a month, at bare minimum, so you don't start orbiting her until you're absolutely sure she's the one.>Finding a girl who cares for you is incredibly important, as your life and personhood will be less and less about your personal interests, and more and more an extension of hers.>Going out at night, or anywhere by yourself, is always incredibly dangerous. Women can't see it as a reasonable risk, but being kidnapped and turbo-stockholm'd to your kidnapper would be a life-ending event. No one wants to have ones life orbit helplessly around a woman you hate and/or fear, until you don't have the personhood to hate or fear anymore.
>>11468284Hmmm. I'll read your post later. But your image reminded me of the concept of non-human matriarchies which I brought up couple threads ago. I.e, human society ruled by robo-waifus. Maybe all women eventually ascend to robotic forms while men are left behind for some reason idk.
the rules say i am not allowed to complain about 4chan staff so i won'ttime to post 4 more pics so the thread stays up i guess
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>>11468448are these japanese enough for your liking, your majesty?also this is the worst captcha they've ever done
>>11468444The amount of art that exists of catboy leon being dommed by ada shocks even my deviant heart.
>>11468284>picAchievable natty?
>>11468284Gonna repost what I wrote cuz the thread'll be deleted soonThe biggest factor that triggered OTL gender roles is reproductive patterns1. Since men can have potentially infinite children in 9 months while women can only have one, males genetically benefit more from having a high sex drive.a) This creates a "male wants, woman gives" conception of relationshipsb) Both of which make rape a real possibility, creating many ideas about modesty.2. Men are genetically more expendable, this creates a culture of chivalry and paternalism in which women are to be protected by men. It also causes a society in which only men are warriors (except for the Scythians of yesteryear and the Israelis of today)So, idea one: Men only release a single sperm cell every nine months, while women have multiple uteri and can be pregnant by multiple different men at once.This would have the collateral that male masturbation is seen as like, an unforgivable sin. So let's say female pheromones are required as well, not just an orgasm (if you masturbate to your crush's sweaty socks you might release it but let's ignore that)Now, the answer:needing multiple uteri would also explain women being bigger than menand each individual pregnancy would be less of a burden, allowing women to continue to work while pregnant, securing their dominance in the workplace as welli imagine there would be a high demand for male birth control that stops them from ejaculating until they're ready, both for recreational sex and to avoid rapists stealing their cum
>>11468633I didn't make it clear but the "now the answer" thing is not from my post, it was a literal reply to the text before that. I meant to write "reply" but in spanish they're the same word qwq I hate being a spic
I could see an alternate history working where somehow some plague or forever war wiped out like 70% of men, and while our population bounced back, the men that were left behind were mostly nervous/anxious/lithe/slim nerdy types, and combined that with the extremely attractive women who all wanted to fuck them to death, this naturally leads to most men being born after that also being smaller and more feminine, and generally more emotional nerdy and empathetic.This also leads to women having to pick up the slack, temporarily destroying gender roles and leaving men to be the ones fought over.This shift lasts a few decades until like two generations later when it's finally almost corrected.However at that point the world's changed significantly, men are now on par with if not weaker than most women, with women now courting them rather than them courting women, combined with their generally more docile nature, and the fact women essentially ran the government as a matriarchy to introduce laws to protect the at one point small male population, they're often denied dangerous work/no longer conscripted.This also leads to a sub culture of men forming who are similar to men of the past, which is now NOT the norm, and vice versa for females. Basically tomboys and femboys reverse and now you have some bitch on social media wishing she could find a "femboy" BF who would play videogames with her, bully and tease her, and softly dominate her.She's then called a lesbian by other women.
>>11468502For women? Yes. For men? Probably not.>>11468633>>11468284I really like this idea.It's a normal matriarchy, but it's got some decent spec-evolution that doesn't just make women the more physically powerful sex, but also the 'wanter/pursuer' and men the 'giver/provider' of sex.There's multiple reasons for women being so large. To defend against wildlife, compete with each other, and do all this while carrying multiple pregnancies potentially.It also incentivizes women to look to other women for personal relationships, and to go between multiple men even, as spending enough time with one man makes him into something more like a servant, or an extension of their own will/body, than a partner over time.Meanwhile men basically have no social or societal prospects due to this process, and just have to hope whoever they end up with, they like.Need greentext about girl noticing/documenting her partner's changes in personality over time.
Take that shit manga off the op retard. Nobody but you likes that shit.
>>11468704Femboy eugenics fuck yeah!
>King takes his new wife to the World Leaders Summit>The big shots at these events are the representatives of the sole super power, the Matriachy>leading men usually spend this event sucking up to those women to ensure a somewhat stable relationship between his country and the matriarchy. Less his country be next on the annex block>while the matriarchal women are usually dismissive of the King at this event, they're COMPLETELY ignoring him this year. Instead recognizing his Queen as the defacto ruler and only adressing/treating with her.>because the matriachy dominates the conversation, him being effectively kept out of it means even other male leaders are ignoring him in favor of the woman who clearly speaks for the kingdom.>relations between the matriachy and the kingdom improve>as the King and Queen continue to have meetings with matriarchal reps, he's traeted more and more like a mere servant. Not even being allowed to sit at the discussion table.>Eventually the Matriarchy invites the new Queen for a tour of their country. She'll serve as guest of honor in a number of events and be offered guidance at becoming a truly Confident and Effective Matriarch by the most powerful women in the world. >The "king" is to attend this tour as her slave, and might be disciplined whenever the Queen asks>King tries to push back on this but the Queen insist she wants to go through with it, and he HAS to come with her per the conditions>When the king begins to argue, the Matriarchal diplomat quickly shuts him down. Telling him the Queen has their full support and the Amazon army will be deployed if be disobeys her.
What would be a realistic use case for a milking station? And how many men to women would be the ideal ratio in a matriarchy?>>11468275>Do you prefer wholesome and sweet stories, or fucked up and brutal ones?I'm a huge fan of free cities so brutal matriarchies are my thing.
>>11469238I know it is a bit silly to say given this is a fetish subject but milking stations make no sense in a practical application. If the goal is semen extraction then government mandated sperm donations in a more controlled medical facility makes more sense (even if just to ensure correct handling and storing of that precious man juice) and if men are notably rarer than women who sort of wife is going to publically allow her husband to essentially be whored out to any skank that walks past? Now if we roll this into a more sex club type scenario that suddenly works a bit better thematically. I could even see that as a means on some small income for men - sign up to be a milking station every few weeks or so and get paid for it, women naturally pay to attend the event and N number women get to get themselves some sex and with luck a load of baby batter.Admittedly the above does somewhat rely on the premise that the end goal of a milking station is pregnancy, which strikes me as a greater pressure in a gender unbalanced world but if we are just going to the end of "men are nothing more than a meat pole for women to use as they see fit" then whatever, by that point no rules apply as you've got a slave population and salves don't have rights.
>>11469244I just keep trying to think of a reason it would be popular or work in reality. I like the concept but I fail to see why a matriarchy would find it useful.Could a matriarchy realistically be imposed in our world compared to a patriarchy?I keep thinking it probably won't since seed is quite easy to come by
>>11469248>fail to see why a matriarchy would find it useful.Unless you shift the setting from today/10 minutes in the future to a few hundred years in the past where 1) people were less knowledgeable about reproduction and 2) lack the technology for long term semen storage. Even then though it is more sensible/mundane just to have Susan tell her husband to go visit elizabeth tonight and jenny is scheduled for the day after for each to get some lovin'. Only way I see milking station work within this context is as a punishment - you can't just lock men up and away from society as they are too valuable but they can't go unpunished for crimes so meet in the middle and remove their freedom of choice. Have them in a stockade in the town square (or perhaps a designated space in/near a police station or jail as after all we can't have the men be abused) and then let it be open season until they have served their sentence.If you wanted to spice that up time served could be determined not by actual time but say number of confirmed pregnancies, as the town doctor would be on call to verify or something along those lines.>John gets caught stealing wine as his wife disapproves but he likes a tipple>gets sentenced to 10 pregnancies >constables escort him from his house to the stockade right as the work shift ends>gets strapped in>hordes of women stream out of their places of work>many have a ride to get some stress relief from the day>time passes>repeat for a few days>report to the town doc/midwife to confirm pregnancy>john no longer has to visit the stockadeThis also opens up some interesting story possibilities for how his wife is seen socially (couldn't even control her man, how can she be expected to lead a house?) and even how he is seen detrimentally.
>>11469269Yeah although even then given the nature of men, it may be interpreted as a reward instead.That's why I like universes like fate where sexual fluids hold magical power, that way it makes sense to keep men bound as magical batteries producing energy 24/7But I'd like to see a sci-fi or cyberpunk reason to have milking stations instead of say sex robots
>>11469275It stops becoming a reward when you lose free agency. I DON'T care if you are tired dave, you WILL get it up and I WILL get off regardless of how you feel about me squeezing you dry.
>>11469278That'd be so hot. I assume for extra degradation it should use electrical stimulation to force semen and erections out of men like with cattle.
>>11468444This makes both my noses excitedAlso trips for Trinity...
>>11468275NEED someone to talk to me like this
Ejaculation is what?
>>11469564MY BODY MY RULESI DO NOT CONSENT
>>11469564Ejaculation is Consent, Mam>>11469564
>>11469564It would be good if the word consent replaced the word ejaculation, so boys felt extra guilt and shame when they consent inside their rapist and fill her with his consent
That story mentioned in the other thread - out of cruel space - got me curious so I started reading. As anon who posted it said it isn't a story that exists for sexy times but it does touch a lot on what a female dominated (with unbalanced gender ratio) might look like for many different societies. Men lashing out because despite a life of comfort in a gilded cage a cage is still a cage, not matter how soft the padding on the bars is. Good stuff as inspiration for smut.
I've been lurking these threads, though it's not 100% my thing I've really enjoyed the worldbuilding and discussions. Here's something that may or may not interest people here.My partner once wrote a story for me about advanced cyborg implants becoming available, but only for women. Slowly over time women became more and more modified, until very little of them was organic.The story was written from a "women submit to their male human partner" but in the long run there was also a matriarchal aspect in that the average woman after a few decades of this was much smarter, faster and stronger than the average man. Men generally lived gilded cages, being pampered by their nearly robotic wives, but not really doing anything than serving as genetic randomizer for the next generation of humans. Because women are inhumanely smarter, they would dump heavy amounts of subliminal propaganda in all media to normalize that humans are a bimodal species, man and machine.We imagined that perhaps this is how alien reproduce, by converting new alien species to be machine cultists. In time religions might change, perhaps the story of Adam and Eve might change so that the punishment for eating from the tree of knowledge is that Eve is stripped from her humanity and Adam from his freedom.
>>11469564Ejaculation is weak men's way to show they are not worth your time...
What if all the nofappers were right?Semen retention actually DOES make you a genius and give you telekinetic powers? What if women are trying to steal these powers for themselves?>>11469582HAH, that's funny AND hot
>>11469693Wizardry is real and the Fem-inati have spent centuries keeping it a secret by plating sex everywhere in society - erotic advertisements, easy access to porn, barely enforced prositution laws etc to ensure men cum semi-regularly and never have their powers awaken.RISE UP MENSHOW THEM YOUR FAT, HEAVY BALLSNEVER TO BE DRAINEDNEVER TO BE TOUCHED BY THE HAND OF WOACHIEVE THE POWER YOU WERE DESTINED FORRISEREBELMAKE A FISTRESIST
>>11469694Magic is stored in the ova
>>11469702*testes
>>11469710Idk, i feel like magic being a part of women fits a matriarchal society better. It being inherent to men makes it much less stable.
Lean meat, fresh vegetables, plenty of fruit to keep his 'essence' sweet if one of his owners decided to engage in the debauchery of oral sex - indeed, a massive luxury to 'use' a breeder for such indulgences. So, of course, as powerful women his owners indulged in it regularly.It’s darkly comedic. In the rest of the galaxy, in the real world as he sometimes thought of it, performing oral was generally was a mark of consideration, of focusing entirely on your partner's pleasure. Not so with his owners. Even a blowjob was all about them in the end, the better to mark out their power and dominance over the world around them.
>>11469694...too late......nothing new under a moon...BAKA!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQayHB6VAsc
>>11468735I know we've moved on a little from this concept. But I did really quite like the whole 'male anglerfish routine' concept, so I wrote a fic about it.https://pastes.io/observatio
>be naturally submissive>also tall strong, bearded, hairyfuck me
>>11470106The mightiest oak is most useful when carved and shaped into a fine chair.
>>11470105I liked your work! I enjoy the detached scientific style in smut storiesI think I might write a similar story about a couple from our world appearing in a matriarchal world, and slowly being morphed by it.
In a long forgotten story I read a dude married a woman from a matriarchal society and upon moving to said country had to adopt several things, in addition to "the wife speaks for the husband";>men are to be naked at all times except for form fitting shoes>men have to get a penis piercing (prince albert? I forget the real name) that means they HAVE to sit down to urinate>the dudes wife would regularly masturbate him when he was to go out in public - this wasn't always the fun sexy kind but the clinical kind>when the dude was getting his shoes fitted he was erect (being new and the sales woman measuring him up was arousing him) and pre-cum dripped on her uniform. She acted completely nonchalantly and in a bored way>he was required to shave all his body hair because that is what his wife likedThe story was clearly written by someone into femdom but there was nothing truly hardcore about it, just a focus on men being 2nd class citizens.
>>11470105pretty good, i like how the woman manages to keep her scientific tone despite giving in and fucking him halfway throughif i had to complain about one thing, is it doesn't make sense for the women in the story to need to make a study like this, because it seems like it would already be common knowledge at that point?but please continue writing, good stuff
>>11468275Okay I tried spitballing a few pseudoscientific ideas into one concept, i need help because i think this could work>in our real world estrogen already influences mitochondrial biogenesis, meaning cells exposed to more estrogen tend to build more mitochondria and resist fatigue better (normally small differences but real)>women on average already show slightly better fatigue resistance, oxidative stress handling, and muscle recovery compared to men>in this setting a mix of environmental stressors (microplastics, endocrine disruptors, background radiation, chronic stress, warming climate) slowly alters human hormone receptor sensitivity>a dormant regulatory gene linked to estrogen receptors activates and retunes estrogen from a reproductive hormone into a cellular energy master regulator>estrogen receptors begin directly upregulating mitochondrial density, efficiency, and repair cycles>women’s muscle cells now produce more stable atp with less cellular damage buildup>faster recovery leads to denser bones via constant load adaptation and stronger connective tissue to survive increased force>as connective tissue becomes tougher the nervous system removes protective strength limits and women access more of their natural muscle output>instead of becoming leaner their bodies scale up frame size (back, hips, thighs, chest) to safely distribute higher internal forces while staying estrogen-shaped and soft>muscles remain less explosive per gram than male muscle but total force increases because of higher recruitment and structural tolerance>female fetuses begin growing larger due to enhanced placental efficiency and mitochondrial inheritance through the maternal line>uterine tissue adapts generation by generation, becoming thicker, more vascularized, and mechanically stronger to handle higher birth mass>pelvic structures widen and reinforce with denser bone lattice patterns
>>11470194> I enjoy the detached scientific style in smut storiesFor lolz this popped into my head>entry log 123>the male is attempt to mate with me>subject is showing the necessary signs of arousal and is currently in the process of locating my genitalia to proceed with procreation>sensation is unusual with subject exerting a great deal of physical force in their efforts>subject has gone rather still, almost limp, I believe subject has achieved (or at least they believe to have) achieved insemination>excessive reproductive fluids noted, some which appear to be leaking out of me>will monitor subject behaviour in the morning as exhaustion appears to have overtaken them
>>11469582>Male ejaculation is conceptually tied to the idea of male consent.>After all, ejaculation IS consent.>Similarly, male consent is conceptually tied to feelings of relief, loss of tension, calmness, pleasure and the like. Not just in regards to sex, but all through daily life too.>To the male perspective, you consent, to take the easy, comfortable, calm option, and you don't consent, to take the hard, stressful, difficult option.A big part of the reason why women don't flirt very subtly or very well, is because all you have to do is put pressure on a man, and he'll most likely give into your advances just to try stay safe or de-stress the situation.Also if not, consent can be physically wrung out of him. Men love to consent, even if they lie and say they don't.
Reopening the polygamy discussion from >>11462983 In y'all's opinion, how many wives are realistic? How many wives can a boy have so it's manageable to live in the same house, go on dates all together, etc? 100 wives is an absurdly high amount, how can you fit 100 people in a house? let alone a restaurant table? But arabs don't have that much of a problem with four wives. So there must be a limit somewhere.
>>11470389Two wives is a male fantasy. Four wives is average. Six if poor. Monogamy is degenerate.
>>11470396I'm not following. The lesser the wives the richer you are?
>>11470418The less wives, the richer the wives, but yeah. A society where one man having multiple wives is the norm would reasonably be structured in a way that whatever the average configuration of relationships is(in this case, four women and one man), that configuration would be able to provide themselves a reasonable standard of living. As such, costs would be designed around the household having four separate incomes. For those of lower socioeconomic standing, they would need more income to be able to meet the "normal" standard of living. This would lead to marriages involving more wives than the typical four.
>>11470425Ah, the causal link goes the other way.I thought your original post implied that having more wives made you poor (because of more mouths to feed). Although, what's stopping the 6 wife arrangement from becoming rich?
>>11470446>what's stopping the 6 wife arrangement from becoming rich?Same things that put them in the position of needing to be a 6 wife arrangement in the first place
>>11470484They're in the arrangement because they're poor and they can't get rich because they're... poor. That's retarded.
>>11468319late but maybe men are left behind because Y chromosome is unstable?>tech companies invent way to "live forever" through transferring consciousness into a robot body>men can't do it because it requires the scan, breakdown, and then digital recreation of brain cells>Y chromosomed brain cells aren't strong enough for the process... men can't do it without dying/disabling themselves>women become all powerful by modifying their robot forms, establish a global matriarchyContinue??...>the longer women are in a robot form, the more robotic they become>start culling the "strong" men because because statistically they're too dangerous for society (or only breeding with weak men)>femboys/nerds/mommy's boys survive>world peace
>>11470105Hot af
>>11470496>That's retardedThat's the way things are. People don't tend to make more money when they enter a less than ideal marriage.
Men getting dedicated wives is too restrictive for the woman's part. Women can take and release whoever they want and good men will roll with it, obeying the whims of women who want him while not expecting special access. It's normal and healthy for both sexes to have many partners over their lifetime, and for siblings to share mothers but not fathers (you can't always be sure who the father is, anyway).A healthy family will have a variety of children with different fathers and traits instead of being locked to one pair for life. Men are to be treasured and shared, but not to be bound to as if a woman is proposterously belonging to that man.
>>11470508(you)Reading it again, was this section supposed to imply something?>I’m not sure when he’s doing this. I’ve not even heard the vacuum cleaner going in at least a month either, possibly why it slipped my mind.
The fact that colourblindness is sex-correlated is food for thought. Though IRL it doesn't mean infrared or ultraviolet vision like some birds have, Some female humans can see in four colours https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrachromacy#Humans There are also situations when women have stronger senses of smell depending on their menstrual cycle.I'd like to imagine a setting where women have highly elevated senses compared to men because of some genetic coincidence where colour vision and other super senses are recessive and therefore associated with female phenotypes and not male phenotypes.Imagine the power any predatory species would have if it had vision in the section of infrared corresponding to animal body temperatures. Women would have the ability to hunt, to notice threats, and to leave messages around that would be invisible to men. Depending on women and earning their support would be important for survival.A while ago I heard of cameras so precise that they could measure one's pulse and other vitals.While my first thought is that obviously such strong senses should belong to women, there is something cute about a man who is attentive to the health and workings of the women around him and can accomodate them accordingly.
>>11470538I'm glad you noticed.It's meant to imply that while she's out at university doing other research, he's doing all the cleaning then.It's one of the first hints that he's ignoring his own prospects and interests (giving up on his hobbies to cook for her, and not working on his own master's to clean) in order to support her and her work.>>11470194Thanks. I figure I know how to speak journal, so I may as well use it.I would look forward most happily to seeing a dynamic shift like that over time, if you write it anon.>>11470248True, I did realize that in halfway through. But a lot of things that are 'common knowledge' do get serious research done on them to this day too. That's just to make sure our knowledge is empirical and detailed, and not just allegorical.The alternative is that young adult men losing personal identity and giving up on hobbies and interest to support their partner, is just a result of a matriarchal society forcing them to do so.
>>11470266>>11470274A commendable amount of pseudoscientific autism anon! Pretty much all checks out too, save for the initial supposition of spontaneous linkage of estrogen reception to mitochondrial density, but that's hardly relevant.It's a very fun concept of semi-runaway alteration too. I could see a natural limit almost being like that of Sharks, in which diet tends to influence growth as much as anything.I do think, up to a point, even G3 women probably wouldn't have full activation access, as they've probably got larger muscle groups due to the larger frame, which would provide more muscular power in themselves, but that's nitpicking. They may also have higher natural activation due to a vastly superior recovery rate too.
>>11470266>>11470274Worthy autism deserves worthy writefaggotry.Not as long as my last one, but god I love big women.https://pastes.io/id-known-t
>>11470266>>11470274Aight anon, be honest. You genned this using ai, didn't you? Cuz I remember getting a very similar premise when doing my own research with chatgpt.>>11470610HOT.
>>11470610Did you seriously write all that in not even a day? If yes i am mad jelly as a story writer myself, i liked the cute ending a lot. You also mentioned a concept i had forgotten in my post, that female puberty starts way earlier due to the changes giving their bodies even more time to develop size. A small criticism if I may: It almost sounds like Tarla has higher muscular quality than her male counterpart. My idea was that while female musculature remains inferior to male musculature per gram, they gain larger frames and therefore much larger force throughput all the while male bodies become even smaller and fragile due to the environmental triggers and later even selection bias during birth, where the traditional male frames are too large and fragile for the powerful female uterus causing a downspiral in selecting for even smaller and smaller males.>>11470554>It's a very fun concept of semi-runaway alteration too. I could see a natural limit almost being like that of Sharks, in which diet tends to influence growth as much as anything.Yes, i forgot to add (among another thing mentioned later) that the kaloric intake would be much larger, maybe up to 5.000kcal for g2 and up to 10.000 (both ass pulls) for g3>I do think, up to a point, even G3 women probably wouldn't have full activation access, [...]. They may also have higher natural activation due to[...]What do you mean by activation? So one of the concepts (which i honestly did not know about), is that apparently hour body guards ourselfes against our own power. Our brain limits our muscle fibre activation to prevent damage to our bodies. I always thought the "mom deadlifts car to reacue child" story was a pure meme, but there seems to be some truth to it. It is underwritten here, but the idea is that women with increased recovery rates can use more of their existing muscles due to increased recovery rate, increasing their total force throughput, did you mean the same?
>>11470652NO... and yes. I had some core concepts in my mind and starting researching with the help of ai and spin it all up into some pseudo scientific concept. The base ideas came from my own knowledge and researched them, I edited and curated it with the help of ai (and obviously in the end asked it to summarize it all into the attached picture). It took me about an hour of research and rewriting all the stuff, which is a decent amount of time for a goon post on /d/ you must surely admit. You can call me fraudulent for that if you like, but it took some real effort and writing and i just didnt shit out the first thing in this thread after asking "how make women big". And sincerly doubt that you got some of the stuff like the evolving female anatomy causing a feedback loop for larger female fetuses and smaller male fetuses
Lesbian gynarchy where all males never go past shota age and all the girls are tall over six feet and they keep males as pets.The male pets have more often than not more than one owner because the girls are in monogamous or polygamous lesbian relationships and share their pets. They sometimes milk the males through sperm extractions similar to cow milk extractions but not for reproduction purposes because girls can reproduce through parthegonetic means and the males are produced through other mean. The male sperm is used for other purposes, maybe for some food ingridient or the boys are modified to produce milk through their testicles.What do you think about this idea?
>>11470687>higher muscular quality than her male counterpartBecause she probably would in the end.Speaking as a martial artist myself, a LOT of conscriptable strength comes down to training and exercise. As does using it come down greatly to training and skill.Yeah, he might have a favourable disposition to muscular strength initially. But not training it means he isn't going to be able to really utilize it. Especially not in comparison to someone who can train a lot, recover fast, and who's adapted well to this kind of thing.Also pre-puberty there isn't really a difference.>What do you mean by activation?Exactly that limit. The body can tap into greater reserves of strength per muscle volume, at cost of potential damage.But a more robust form, heavier or more trained, is able to withstand those forces somewhat better, and can tap into a higher percentage of that total output regularly, and not permanently cripple themselves.It makes sense that, with a larger, stronger build, women can tap into more of that capacity. Though with larger build comes larger muscles, which means maybe not so much?
>>11470790Idk about allat but I do find parthenogenesis intriguing.I think women in general get the shorter end of the stick when it comes to sex and reproduction, what with pregnancy, periods, etc. I like thinking of ways the whole process could be optimized in some fantasitical future which results in males being at the disadvantage. I mean, if you really think about, women are way more important than men for the progression of the species. Why shouldn't they be bigger and tougher than men?
>>11470790The first half was sorta my idea for >>11470105 as a concept.Realistically, you don't have an archetypal family unit like you do IRL.'You don't go to men for meaningful relationships', because post-pubescent men tend to very quickly become vestigial.You have a mother, and you have her children. The father exists, but he's less a parent, and more an extension of the mother (and one physically outgrown as well by any female children very quickly).Deep relationships and connections are found between women. Friends, friends with benefits etc. Again, you don't search for meaningful relationships with boys. They're smaller, physically and mentally weaker, and even if you make one, it'll only be a brief affair before he becomes less of a not-quite-matured person, and more of an automaton for your needs.Of course, this makes a society entirely based around the female perspective, where young boys and men kind of exist in a limbo until they find someone to orbit.
I think the story of an "outsider male" to the sort of worlds over here would be interesting. The oppressiveness of seeing how other males behave, how you're expected to behave, how other women might look at you with interest given your persistent personality. It'd be really interesting and hot seeing the male slowly losing the fight against the world.Plus, infinite potential for scenarios as you can just have the guy going around observing the male-female dynamics
>>11470831>Because she probably would in the end.Makes sense>>11470831>But not training it means he isn't going to be able to really utilize it. Especially not in comparison to someone who can train a lot, recover fast, and who's adapted well to this kind of thing.I think they shoukd train, I like to leave the male population with a slither od hope/copium of "heh, g-girls will never suprass us because our muscles are way more efficient" i imagine a story / scenario where some 5'5 guy sees a 300lbs 6'4 mass of ass and pussy (all soft not some roid muscle, but huge) outbenching him by 2-3 times telling himself that pound for pound he is stronger>higher output etcSo I understood right, yeah this goes to the same thing, male muscles are stronger but females have more of them, arge larger in general and stress their bodies way more and recover even faster >>11471047This goes to the same issue I have, that most scenarios are post-change. I like stories set in a world where change is still happening and it is recognized by its inhabitants. An outsiders perapective is a neat solution in a way. I also thought about a small population of males and females that manage to guard themaelves somehow against this development
Looking for hot, derogatory words for men in matriarchal worlds. Something with the punchiness of "rape meat" or "fuck slut".
>>11471274prime pole
>>11471274Man prey.
>>11471274sperm farm, sperm cow, dick meat
Imagine the ass to hip ratio between women and men if women were bigger than men, it would be so hot seeing the size difference.
>>11471274Cum pump. Fuckstick. Dildo. And, frankly, you could use Rape Meat and Fuck Slut just the same.
>>11471274Don't you take that tone with me you little stiff.
What exactly is the woman's incentive to rape? Isn't it just gonna end up being a problem for her?And what exactly is the downside to being raped by a woman for a man?
>>11471349>downside to being raped by a woman for a manThe worldbuidling of "A Brother's Price" has a good solution to this by having STDs be a much bigger threat than in our world. "A Brother's Price" has the rather typical Matriarchy scenario of imbalanced sexes which turns sexually promiscious people into STD superspreaders. One woman contracts and STD from somewhere, then spreads it to her husband, who then spreads it to a dozen or so people. Or, maybe she spreads it to a male sex worker, who then spreads it to hundreds of people. STDs are an existential threat and how a much more rigorous purity culture for both males and females in justified, which I thought was quite neat.>What exactly is the woman's incentive to rape? Isn't it just gonna end up being a problem for her?You could always have women with much higher libidos raping men and simply aborting the fetus, or you could have "rape" not really existing as a concept for women, and if they decide they want to have a baby with an unclaimed man then there is no reason why not.
>>11471052>I think they shoukd train, I like to leave the male population with a slither od hope/copium of "heh, g-girls will never suprass us because our muscles are way more efficient"It is a great contrast with more efficient muscle on paper, vs bigger, stronger, and faster recovering muscle.Though, my thoughts were that; while men might have on paper higher power muscle per cubic cm, being smaller, less sturdily built, and far more prone to quick exhaustion and slow recovery, would probably have a more restrictive biological limiter to avoid exhaustion or damage. Plus, you've got 5'6 males, who thought they were small next to their 5'9 parents, teaching 5'3 boys that tire quickly, so I image PE would be a very cautious venture.All the more reason for "Muh higher strength per cm^2" cope being cope.>>11471124I wrote a couple (unfinished) greentexts with aggressive, rape-y women in past threads.I really need to finish that one where the guy goes out clubbing and gets roofie'd.>>11471047https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV8MuzeQhd8Is the start of a series of 1920's-esque matriarchal stuff.Not quite as autistic about the worldbuilding as here, and it's sorta asmr, but it's pretty fun stuff.
>>11471349I think it is about Power and Humiliation. Sexual desire is still a thing, but it's heavily coloured by social context and different kinds of relationships between people.
>>11471349>What exactly is the woman's incentive to rape?Horny
>>11471349Extremely high libido and not taking "No" for answer.
I want to shit up this thread so bad with giantess vore world building>>11471349Social media phenomenom, younger women play the "rape challenge" for clout and attention
>>11471275>>11471281>>11471298>>11471332>>11471337Need a world where women casually talk to/about men like this in front of/to other women>>11471349>Horny.>She physically wants to, and can.>Men are always horny (dick gets hard and they can consent (>>11469582)) even if they say they don't want it.>Men don't bear any of the reproductive burden, so there's no "real" damage, so it's a morally fine thing to do. He'll 'consent', and won't be left with anything.>Ignore any lingering trauma, social apprehension, or the stigma he'll now receive from other boys for the loss of his dignity, because they're not real considerations.
>>11471349If women's bodies were refined and enhanced to a point pregnancy and childbirth was less of a difficulty, it might suddenly make it much more enticing to indulge in sex. Not sure about downsides other than rape tends to be viewed as humiliating and cruel but since a lot of these threads get into sci fi biology stuff I would suggest something akin to the Angler idea where men are hardwired so sex mentally and physically affects them against their will to be more subservient and attached.
>>11470504>Be male.>'Married' to a woman.>She, like most other women, is over 600 years old.>Can't really escape either. Even if she wasn't half running off a series of supercomputers to improve her brainpower, there aren't really options out there.>It's not slavery, or some legal difference. But real jobs, proper ones expect transhuman cognitive capacity and centuries of experience that it's just not possible to have as a man, a 'bio-boy'.>Really, life was set out from the start for you anyway.>She's known you since you were born. Knew which woman gestated and birthed you. Knew what selection of genotypes you were going to have even before they expressed themselves. Knew how you grew up, learned, and what she and your mentors would have to do, to create the behaviors she wanted you to develop.>All with that augmented brainpower and computational capacity of hers that seems so beyond anything you can relate to.>She knew all this, because she decided on it.>You are a male. >But you are also fundamentally a commission. A piece of design work, made to her personal preferences.>She signed the paperwork to allow for you, made your genetics to her exact designs, paid her friend to have you, and then raised and groomed you all your life to become her newest piece.>This is not new to her. She is well practiced at this. You are not her first. And you will not be her last.
>>11469281>like with cattleMost farmers actually like their cattle, and cattle actually like being milked.
>>11471460I know the Angler concept is a bit fantastical. But in my unneeded defense, we've always been about spec-biology to a degree, I got the name and concept from the Anglerfish, and it would lead to interesting unavoidable matriarchies. Even if the biological phenomenon is not entirely ubiquitous.>Back to the point.I think it'd just add to the downsides. You've already got.>It's a physically overwhelming event where the person is overpowered and forced into something intimate against his own will by an outsider who doesn't care about him.>It's deeply violating and leaves emotional scars on the person.>It's a loss of dignity. And for a male in an intensely matriarchal world, where they might hav very little to their name (no possessions, money, property, life agency), dignity can become an incredibly important social currency.>Loss of dignity might change how he's received by women, and by men. He may well be respected less by either, even if he didn't do anything wrong himself, or have less social sway.Add Angler syndrome in, and you could get.>It's an even more permanently damaging thing, akin to a compulsive disorder or PTSD where the male can't 'leave behind' the memory of her and move on as he's begun orbiting her.>Which either means living life with lasting mental health issues, or going to live with, mould yourself to, and selflessly serve, a stranger woman you fear and hate, because she forced herself on you (possibly while drunk).>It's seen as a masculine failure or betrayal, given men would have to keep very separate and distant from non-family women out of preservation, while HE ended up in a situation having sex with one, which meant he was around them, or doing things men shouldn't be doing (ala, going out too late at night, or without escort/cohort).Which is kinda just amplification of the first ones really.Meanwhile, a woman just needs to indulge in a contraceptive of some sort and she's fine.
I like the robot matriarchy idea. Does away with the struggle of pregnancy because of technological advancements. Robo bodies for painless, effortless labor. Or maybe there's a centralized mother matrix that births human males. >>11471467Cool. I like it. I like speculating on the optimal biology that a "goddess" like race should possess. What kind of material would their bodies be made of? It can't be metal. It's too basic. It needs to be something crazy like quantum foam that self repairs or something retarded. Decentralized brains that are hosted on servers across dimensions. Neural networks that are constantly updating their weights and evolving their topology a million times a second.Or maybe the entire race acts like a hive mind? And they create human men for shits and giggles. Just for the stimulation that they can provide?>>11471498You might be on to something. Total mindbreak is a pretty good downside. I think it should deter even the folks browsing this thread from wanting to be raped.
>>11471644>it should deter even the folks browsing this thread from wanting to be raped.Rape was a relatively common fetish until relatively recently, but people don't actually want to be raped. Rape is insulting because as the other anon said, it's forcing an extremely personal act on someone that is unwilling.
>>11471644I still want to be raped regardless. But, since you can't rape the willing, it wouldn't count as rape, and thus, I wouldn't want it anymore. But, if I didn't want it, it'd be rape, and thus I would want it.I refer to this as the Rape Paradox
>>11471349>And what exactly is the downside to being raped by a woman for a man?The vice-like grip of a woman's pussy is enough to make any man cry.
>>11471716Ravishment is the correct term.It’s rape-y sexual assault dub/non consensual stuff. But when the recipient is kinda into it, or on board.Rape, realistically, is a de-fetishised thing to experience.Doesn’t stop my heart or my penis from feeling otherwise however.
>>11471349Mindbreak where you basically become "imprinted" on her due to the event.And if we go with more scifi/fantastical, it could also result in some body modification stuff over time. Ie. the woman starts "upgrading" you, like giving you giant overproductive nuts that drive your libido through the roof. Causing the only thing you can think about, is having sex.
>>11471718I have an unhealthy desire to spend my life skirting the boundaries of female dominated spaces out of a need to conserve myself, only to make a mistake and get roofied.>>11471921To add to the ‘Angler syndrome’ idea.>In anglerfish, the male mate bites onto the female and everything save its testicles become vestigial, as the female just uses the attached organ to inseminate herself at her leisure,>In humans, the mated male, in a process believed to have both social, and physiological triggers, production of hormone receptors and pathways in the gonads and prostate up-regulate, resulting in higher sensitivity to hormones excreted in the pituitary gland.>Testicles and prostrates may hypertrophy, and begin to rampantly increase production, to meet the demands anticipated. This pulls away calories and resources that might otherwise be used in the body or the brain.>Additionally to this redistribution of calorie resources, the male brain observes reduced electrical discharge in the prefrontal cortex, parietal cortices, and some others.>This is believed to be caused by axons developing a higher depolarisation threshold, and is believed to occur to allow for greater mirror neuron sensitivity and reception. Thusly allowing for an orbiting male to have greater awareness of the desires, needs and intentions of those females, around him, at the consequence of some of his own personal, physical or behavioural capacities.>From a biological perspective after all, outside of providing children when desired, performing domestic maintenance and assisting his female in nurturing or maintaining offspring, all those capacities ARE vestigial. A partnered male can depend on the female for instruction and guidance, while a reduced overall quantity of brain activity frees up resources that may be put to better use elsewhere in the body, such as cum production, or in the family unit, feeding one of the females
>>11471974While that’s all fun, I’m very interested about how it might affect people more or less than others.I’d almost say that being a man who isn’t affected by Angler syndrome might even be somehow worse than if you did get it.>All your friends leave you as they turn into horny house slaves with no personal interests.>Forced to seek companionship with female groups and social circles, as there just aren’t any male ones found in wider society.>Treated like a slut or damaged goods because you hang around women too much to not be affected. Stigma especially bad from men and boys. Women expect free use and get mad when you’re not immediately horny.>Not docile, servile and devoted enough to be a ‘proper’ husband. Not empowered, wise or strong enough to be a faux-girlfriend.Maybe you get lucky, and you’re someone’s (maledom) fetish, or some seedy industry hires you because they need a mentally resilient male for some role.
I guess...
>>11469582>>11471320This makes me happy...
>>11471974What if the women or some of them were also effected by the Angler Syndrome too? Or had their own version of it.When a woman meets a man or boy she likes, who starts to orbit them, the male's scent/pheromones and resulting intimate contact between them start to kick off a hormonaö reaction that slowly starts to turn the woman into a "matriarch". The Syndrome starts by starting to influence her hormonal activity which causes the woman to go through a "2nd puberty" of sorts.Effects being her growing taller with a steady increase in muscle mass, as her breasts and butt grow larger while her hips widen.Obviously ending up in the woman growing up to become the matriarch of their future family.Maybe it is a left over "artifact" from the earlier stage in evolutionary history where growing bigger and stronger to protect and provide for her mate, while having to compete with rival women if men are less numerous than women.
>>11472339Interesting idea. I think I played around with a similar idea once but never really grounded it.The basic premise was pregnancies would actually "buff" women rather than permanently damaging their bodies. Something about creating new life would put their metabolism into overdrive, building muscles, increasing muscle and bone density, improving their immune system, maybe reversing the damage of ageing?All this perhaps for the protection of their child. Maybe there was something in the genetics of sperm cells that could trigger this extreme reaction.The end result was that the more pregnancies a woman went through, the more powerful she'd be. With "matriarchs" with tons of progeny being at the top of the food chain.
>>11472389Or maybe their bodies were designed to somehow be able to pick and choose the "good" genotypes in a sperm cell's dna, integrate it into their own dna, thus being able to accumulate upgrades over multiple fertilization. Might be too fantastical though.
>>11468275>OP picrelThat's pretty hot. Don't see how that's really got to be a "matriarchy" though.
>>11472339So my love can make bitches grow bigger and bigger, hot.
>>11472403We're scavenging for crumbs with this fetish, cut us some slack
>>11472414Women start out as petite, but once you become attracted to each other, the dynamic begins to reverse.Of course physical attraction is all that's needed to start the process. Whether you'd admit to yourself or society is irrelevant.
>>11472339Not sure of any direct animal parallels here but...>Biologically, while (almost) all vertebrates share the traits of smaller males that act as orbiters, homonids, great apes, and select megafauna have 'Matriarchs'.>This is a result of the need for energy economy in larger warm blooded animals. This allows for unmated females to be self-sufficient, and more resilient to deprivation or low-food periods.>After finding a male mate however, and if local resources allow, then females in matriarching species observe a period of physical growth, believed to better allow the female to protect her family group and compete with potential threats or predators, at the cost of calorie efficiency, which is somewhat mitigated by having a male to assist in foraging.>Growth hormone is upregulated, calcium is fixed more heavily into the bones, which observe reactivation of the growth plates. Tendons and ligaments thicken, to allow for higher muscular output and bulk growth.>Notably, psychological changes occur also, with partnered females observed to be more assertive, aggressive, territorial, authoritative, competitive, and less risk averse. >It is a matter of debate whether these psychological changes occur in humans, of course.>Typically, these are not as notable a series of changes in the wild, as occurs with species males, as it is limited by access to food.>Additionally, this growth period is a short-lived event, and typically occurs for only a few months after pregnancy to 'adapt' the mother.>However, humans, with modern society's access to good nutrition, observe matriarching to a far more pronounced degree. Especially if the woman has multiple sexual partners.>This also grants anthropological insights into why men have had next to no relevance in human society over the centuries, even discounting Angler syndrome and all the rest. Women are the only relevant people from an evolutionary standpoint since prehuman times.
As much as one enjoys shlicking to pics discussion is something a more niche board like /d/ could benefit from more. These discussions are great and I am glad there are multiple viewpoints and angles for this fetish even if some anons disagree which is a good thing ultimately.
>>11471716I wish I could enjoy rape, but it never arouses me at all, unless it's a female raping someone, and I'd still just prefer everyone be enjoying it. The feminists really brain fucked me into being an obedient beta. Sexually frustrated beyond belief as a wizard, and I still just don't want to rape anyone. Fuck.
>>11472885I think it's fucked up that you think you should "want to rape". Are you retarded by any chance?
>>11472792There's not an enormous amount of topical animesque Matriarchy art.Besides, while a picture is worth a thousand words, words are also still pretty fun to work with.I need to try writing something else.
>>11472885I always thought that rape fantasies necessitated some "suspension of disbelief" in order to fully enjoy them. Of the people who enjoy rape fantasies in a dominant role, I suspect less than 10% relief the pretend aspect of inflicting lasting emotional damage on their partner. Side note, 10% seemed like a small fraction of "real" rapists in my head but typing it out made me realise its much bigger than I initially thought.
>>11473243I believe it's more of a conquest fetish. I don't think there's much consideration given to the partner's emotional state, save them learning to enjoy it perhaps.Also, been a bit busy recently, so gonna try something interactive (make post, attach poll to decide next step).Once again, based on the whole 'Angler syndrome' concept, as it's grown on me.Post to follow...
>>11468284>>11471498>>11471974>>11472580>>11473713>He is a newborn.>The third child from his mother, and as many men. >His mother is pregnant with him for a little over twelve months. A reasonable period for a woman of her size, age, and physique. >He was observed to be a boy in the third month of gestation. The ultrasound technician delivered the news as if attempting to force excitement.>His mother is working the day of his birth. She is an engineering team lead at a consulting company. She leaves the office by 1pm, and drives herself to the hospital. He is born at 3:17. His mother is 7'11. He is 1'71.>They spend the evening at the hospital to ensure no complications are present in either baby or mother. It is procedure. None are found, and they are discharged at 7am the next day.>He is born able to crawl, to see, and to learn, but not yet quite walk.>She brings him and a spouse into the office over the next two weeks for necessary care, skinship and to feed him, but also as a power move, and to get the enriching benefits of new motherhood herself. The Matriarch effect is something she's well used to, and it gives her an edge in negotiating, competition, and establishing her raw, physical authority. In three weeks, she will no longer fit her old suits, and will need to replace her wardrobe, but will secure several lucrative contracts and place herself above some of her contemporaries and rivals in the process.>When her growth spurt ceases, and maintaining him becomes a distraction, she offloads the responsibility to her husband and her two lovers to feed him with pre-expressed milk, entertain him, and maintain him while she focuses on her work.
>>11473727>He is 5 years old.>He is just starting primary school. He has learnt numbers and letters. He almost knows how to write his name by himself, and that girls are weird and strange and they have to be nice to boys like him.>His sister, Rachel, is 7 years old. She says hi to him at lunchtime, and sometimes he sees her outside playing cricket for PE. >His other sister, Lara is 10. She's on the other side of the school, and he doesn't see her much.>His sisters aren't weird or gross, but annoying. They yell or hit him, he yells or hits them. Unless mom is around. Then he tells on them and Mom makes them stop. It always works.>Normally though, he's talking to the dads. They're boys, like him, and not so big and scary as his teachers, or Mom, and they always have time for him if he asks for it, even when they're doing the washing up, or cleaning, or making food.>He likes talking to 'puppy' most. He's the most... expressive of the three. Talking to 'mouse', or 'father, the one with the ring on his finger, feels like talking to his mother through someone else, like a phone. They always know what he's going to say, and they never quite react like his mother or his sisters.Choose. What kind of boy is he?https://fast-poll.com/poll/3260446c(Alternatively, write a comment I guess)
>>11470610Scary tomboy gfs make my heart flutter...
>>11473728>He is 9 years old.>School is getting complicated now. There's math class and music and reading and PE and science and every year there's double what he had to do before!>He's grown older, smarter. He can read and write and spell very easily now, and knows all his times tables up to 8 times 8 now. Except for some of the seven's ones but he's trying.>He learns them, because it makes his Mom happy and proud of him, and because his teachers are big and scary, and some are mean to him when he doesn't.>None are as big and scary as his Mom though, and she always says she loves him.>He knows that even among big scary women, she's particularly big and scary, and tells a lot of people what to do because she's a Manager for very important and smart people, because she's smarter and more importanter than all of them.>He likes talking to Mom now, more than 'father' or 'mouse' or even 'puppy'. They're easier, but they're like small echoes, copies or messages of his Mother, giving simple answers he can almost guess beforehand. She's more complete, more mentally stimulating. They don't mind when he doesn't talk to them, even though he spends a lot of time at home learning from their example. Making snacks, drinks, meals. Cleaning. Observing his sisters and his Mother. He knows that different things make them happy, and unhappy.>So when he gets home from school he always does all his homework, he practices his piano, and when Mom gets back from work he makes sure she can see him doing his piano, or he brings her refreshments made by the dads when she's tired.
>>11474146>When Mom isn't looking however, he still argues and fights with his sisters. They're bigger than he is, but he's smart and knows what makes them happy or unhappy. And if it's too hard, he can call Mom and she tells them off for picking on their brother.>Rachel is 11 now, and is one of the big kids down the scary end of the school. He sees her sometimes, but their paths don't cross much due to where the classrooms are.>His eldest sister, Lara, is 14, and is at a different school now. They only talk at home, and on the weekends, but she doesn't have time for him much anymore. When he peaks though, the things he sees make his head swim.>Mom spends more time with Lara now than him or Rachel, and they both don't like that.>He sees his youngest sister Emma at school though. She's 7 years old, and is still in the same place in the school as he is. She likes books though, and doesn't spend her lunchtimes running around like Rachel did.>He's figured her out less than his other sisters. But he knows she likes her quiet space, so leaves her to sit with a cool drink when they're at home.Choose. What does he like most at school?https://fast-poll.com/poll/cc374342
>>11474150(Fuk, forgot second line)>He can't help but compare himself to them, and see who's better.>He knows they're older and bigger than him, so he tries to compare what he does, to what they did when they were his age. He feels equivalent to them at his age in terms of smarts and grades but is angry that school let them do certain things, and never even considered letting him. It's so unfair.
Also, to leave the thread with a little more discussion, what do anons think a boys college for this setting would look like?What subjects would they teach? Who teaches them? Is it just PE and Home Economics for two hours a day, or would they bother with more complex subjects like math and science? Is the rest like a day camp, or even a boarding resort?
>>11474197Math and science are options in some places, but nobody expects them to get very far into it so it's not as comprehensive as what girls get. For the most part it's mostly like a boarding resort or vacation home where socializing is considered as much the point as actual education, and the education is mostly for the benefit of them being better prospective husbands for their future owners. PE probably includes humping onto breeding mounts laced with pheromones to promote early growth and get men used to their futures.
>>11474150I chose P.E because I'm a basic bitch and just want a pov of his little sister being physically stronger than him inspite of his hard work. I know you already wrote a story exploring this with the tomboy but I just can't get enough.>>11474276>humping onto breeding mountsNah, ruins the subtle and implicit dominance if they're just straight up coralled into being fuckpets in a super overtly pornish way.
>>11470610Why WAS the mom only 5'6"?
>>11474386Other link seems to have been deleted (possibly AI image gen for the specific scenario), but that was the Epigenetics post where men get smaller and women get bigger over three generations.These were gen 2 parents, who were both 5'6, and a 5'3 son.IIRC they were reasonable height ranges for those 'generations' and I made it at like, 1 in the morning.>>11474276So, boarding school, but they have 2 hours total 'education' (PE to make sure they stay fit, and/or home econ, so they have the skills they need in life, music to entertain their wife, or poise training), and not much else?I imagine they're responsible for all their domestic maintenance, after a point. Get them used to that kind of self-reliance around the home.>>11474370TBQH PE is probably one of the bigger subjects for a boy anyway.'You don't marry a man for his personality', and PE is the best way to control his physical health and body appearance.
>>11468275I fantasize about helping a girl like this so much. Big boobs, curvy body, and her face looks so cute. >>11468633Sounds a little like Spartan society again, although desu I still need to cum inside a woman.>>11468704Unfortunately some countries are also making women go to war, so this might not happen, sadly, although I love femboi eugenics.
>>11474150>He is 11 years old, and is in the last year of primary school.>Rachel is 13. She's at an intermediate school that's different to his, and is a full head taller than him. Mom says she'll grow up to be taller than Lara, but he struggles to believe that.>Lara is 16 now, and is at college. If he thought the things she bought home were bad before, the books she studies now read like some alien language. >Lara doesn't talk to him much. Half the time, she barely even seems to register his existence, and if she does, she treats it like a chore.>The same goes for Rachel. She's kinder about it, but it's like growing tall enough to see over him has made her forget about him at all.>Similarly, Mom visibly cares less about him than about his sisters' lives and achievements, and leaves minding him to the dads.>Sure they all profess to love him, and they hug and cuddle him enough that he believes their earnestness. But when they're going to an event it's always a school thing, or a sports thing, or a stage performance with Lara, or a Karate grading for Rachel, or even a swimming competition for Emma. >Arguably, those were some of the worst. Seeing Emma, his younger sister, who's still only 9, do things at her age that he never got to do just makes it clear that it wasn't his sisters' shadows that made him get overlooked.>Made him always be the one sitting on the sidelines. Always dressed up nicely in good clothes, with his hair done up to 'support you sister' and to 'not let the family down'.
>>11474698>Maybe Mom could take him to an art competition. He's good at art. His teachers all say so, and whenever he's not chatting to his friends at school or not gaming or doing chores or spending time with his family at home, he's often drawing or painting with acrylics.>Art period is up there with History period and Lunchtime for his favourite things to do at school. He knows about all sorts of things, like how in 1912 the Archduchess Franchina was assassinated and that caused the first world war. How in 1893 a handful of island nations agreed to give boys the right to vote, but girls kept stealing them so they stopped that in two years. And that on his birthday, in 1959, women walked on the moon for the first time.>He likes math, and science. Not as much as history or art, but he could participate in the science fair in a year, when he's old enough, even though the dads are unsubtly trying to steer him away from it gently.>They say what his Mom says. That he 'doesn't need' to do those things. That he's perfect the way he is. That he shouldn't compare himself to his sisters, even though he doesn't see why he shouldn't.>His sisters say he 'shouldn't be that spoilt' and he 'doesn't know how good he has it'.>He knows that, for all her lack of interest about him, she's very interested in the two of them, and constantly pushes them to excel more and more, now they're older. He knows that this is stressful to them. Incredibly stressful. And as a good boy and a caring brother, he does support them as best he can. But he can't help but wish he was in their place! To be the one mom focuses in on. Who goes to all these events and competitions and wins things. Just for a day...He's coming into that age group. Choosehttps://fast-poll.com/poll/315541d1Not too happy with this poll, so feel free to write in stuff.
>>11468275One way I love to depersonalise men in my own Matriarchal fantasy, is for men to have no serious naming conventions. In a world where women outnumber men (which is my favourite), boys would be common enough so that most extended familial units have one male in the house, however no more than two or three. Rather than being given names at birth, boys would first be addressed as solely the son of their birthmother/family unit and when later get married they are then addressed as the husband of the family unit. This way the entire self identity of a male throughout his life is tied to the female that has ownership of him at that specific time. Alongside hundreds of other subtle ways at which a boy's identity is shaped into the mold demanded by female society, any notion of seperation from female control would be made to be unthinkable to the vast majority of boys.
>>11474698>Seeing Emma, his younger sister, who's still only 9, do things at her age that he never got to do just makes it clear that it wasn't his sisters' shadows that made him get overlooked.Whoa... I know I asked for this but now I'm sad for him
>>11474764Eh, true.I wasn't so good with that one, and it came out a bit sadder than anticipated, even for a male account of a matriarchal setting in which the vast majority lose their personhood by 25.>>11474740That is also peak. And I am going to shamelessly try steal it.
>>11474699>He is 14.>And he doesn't know why College, or High school, or whichever is the correct name for it, is something that his sisters get so stressed about.>Though in fairness, he's been sent to a different one. A 'boys college'. A REALLY nice, private one too. Mom was particular about that.>He's sure his sisters are going to a private school as well. But he knows it can't be as pretty as this. >As good as it feels good to be the one receiving special attention like this, he's sad that he's leaving his sisters behind for five days every week, or that they don't get to see inside the grounds.>And what grounds! Three story Georgian brick dormitories making a maze out of patterned brick and tile walkways that's both open, and conspiratorial. A big gothic great hall that's like something out of a Hermione Potter book. The dense, two story library full of art and stories and so many books. The historic chapel building where they do singing practices three times a week. The gym. The tennis courts. The indoor swimming pool...>The front opens onto a meticulously maintained square lawn that he knows is called a 'quadrangle'. And the back has a big field on it that they do PE and play games on and run around every morning at 6:40am every day in short shorts and a singlet.>He was super worried about being busy too, with scary looking homework and likely scarier looking lessons by big, scary teachers. >But that's totally not the case! Unlike his last year, where he was learning maths and science and english and all these other things too and now he's like... not?>Well, that's a half-truth. >He's got a 20 minute run in the morning, followed by a quick swim, and then breakfast at 8. Then, there's a cooking practice class from 9 to 9:50, where he learns things his dads already kinda taught him about how to cook and clean up afterwards.
>>11475399>But if he doesn't have singing practice at 10:30, or if there's no visitations happening where girls from other schools come in and he's cruelly NOT allowed to go attend... he has free reign.>There are other classrooms too, playing videos or documentaries on certain subjects each.>He does watch those. Watches some of them keenly. ESPECIALLY those ones with, or about women. If they have women on screen a lot.>Other times, if there's a computer free, or there's a quiet space in the library, he goes on the internet to find pictures and videos of women himself. Sometimes, that's all he does between lunch and dinner, if there's nothing else on or he's not interrupted.>But those aren't real classes. There are no teachers, and no one to tell if you're there or not, and you can just... leave. Not even not pay attention or talk in the classroom, just... never turn up.>Which he does more and more. But he doesn't tell Mom about any of that.>The older boys say that, as he gets older, he'll have more classes, or more responsibilities. But that as a first year, he just has the one class.>The older boys do all the cooking and the cleaning and the gardening too. They vacuum his dorm room, take his dirty sheets, hang his laundry out, and prepare all the meals of the day.>He can do it himself. But they do it anyway, and tell him he'll be doing it in five years anyway, so it's fine.>In fact, there's very few things the older boys don't do. There's a headmistress, and a couple adults around nominally in charge. But the older boys very much run the place and keep it tidy like some beautiful, masculine commune, straddled on a hill between city and park.
>>11475401>Of course it's not ALL luxury. The hours of free time mean everyone is exceptionally good at conversation, or exceptionally teased for not meeting those standards. Cliques form, despite all efforts on part of the older boys to break them up, and some boys can get pretty bratty with each other, and have words enough to say some very mean things.>There's also the exacting grooming and dress standards. Everything must be done up correctly, clean, ironed, and immaculate. Or you get punished by one of the Prefects, and humiliated by your classmates.>No piercings or body hair. No coloured hair or unusual haircuts. >Clothing worn must be the uniform. White button shirt, with a dark green blazer and pleated skirt with black shoes and stockings. Knee length skirt for the summer, ankle length for the winter.>What trips everyone up, sometimes literally, is that each skirt comes with an elastic interior skirt that's close-fitting around the legs and makes you shorten your stride.>The summer uniform isn't so bad, but the interior skirt in the winter uniform goes down to the calves and is quite restrictive.>Other first years struggle and curse and look in envy at some of the seniors, but he doesn't. He likes looking nice, and is well familiar with how to move in less permissive clothes, or spending an hour each day to make himself look immaculate, before even stepping out of the building.>If anything, he's upset that he's not allowed fancier makeup or jewelry or that sort of thing like some older boys get to. And that the junior uniform isn't as nice looking as the senior one, with its closer fitting red blazer and mid thigh length summer skirt. Or the floor length winter skirt with its cutaway vents on the side.
>>11475403>He tells all of this to his sisters, who're all very interested to hear.>Lara's 19. She's all grown up, left College, and is in her first year at university, studying Engineering. She remembers her times visiting and knows some of the places. She looks so much like Mom it's uncanny. Though she's about a foot shorter. It's hard to tell when they stand up.>Rachel is 16. She's just at the age where she's now allowed to go visit officially, and is very excited. She's huge now. About as big as Lara, despite having a few more years of puberty left. She's gotten really big into her martial arts now, and though Lara is physically fit and heavier built, being older, Rachel has an aura of power and capacity around her it's hard to deny.>Emma is 12, and is at an intermediate school. She positively eats the stories up however and is amazed to see his uniform his first Saturday back. She's still shorter than him, for now. But she has started catching up.New poll. Time to decide what clique(s) he falls into (I tried to think of as many as I could, but do feel free to make a post here if I missed one).https://fast-poll.com/poll/a8ac2fcf
>>11475404Would the Cons be the girl chasers? I'd also really like to see how his family reacts to him talking about girls.
>>11475447I imagine those could be rebels, or even Patriarchists catcalling women (though what a 'patriarchy' culture looks like in this setting, is up for debate).In comparison to normal society which expects men to be reserved, chaste and demure, being outwardly sexual and confrontational may be a way of rebelling against a system, or controlling something about yourself? I almost imagine Cons to be like dedicated Matriarchy supporters. Everything's about being a good boy and presenting yourself in a way your wife will love, and policing/shaming any boy who doesn't do it hard enough. Dedicated to traditional values. Sometimes to the point of toxicity and extremism.Really, this is one that could probably do with written commentary on what people's answers are. I do read the range of answers and form a single one based on levels of preferences, but as with anything, discussion is always nice.
>>11475326>That is also peak. And I am going to shamelessly try steal it.Another idea you could steal is how religion/mythology in such a world could normalise and justify rape. I went to a Jesuit school, and whenever we would study parts of the Old Testament like Isaiah 13:16 or Psalm 137:9, I would be shocked by the naked brutality of it until I realised that the rape of women and murder of innocents was simply just part of the values or natural course of war. In my favourite fantasy of a gender imbalanced Matriarchal world, sexual violence committed by women towards men and boys would be actions that were embedded and glorified in religion. Invading a weak nation, smashing their womens heads in with clubs and carrying off their boys to be forced into being husbands or sold as sex slaves would be no more unusual than taxes, and people would project this onto their deities.I love the idea that when soldiers would invade a country and destroy temples and smash statues to other deities, they would think it to be a physical action mirroring a cosmic war in the heavens, where the deity of their nation would literally be killing/enslaving the deity of the defeated nation and raping their male deitites. Psalms and prayers would be written and sung by priestesses infront of temples that include gratuitous descriptions of females raping males, and women who would have a loving husband and a darling son would make offerings to the Gods for their soldiers to dash other womens brains out and carry their males back to you as playthings. Society would instill a bronze age mindset about warfare in the minds of not just women but men too, to the point where men might not even believe the women raping them can be said to be particularly "responsible" for what they do. The Goddesses their mothers, sisters and daughters prayed towards salughtered, raped, and plundered before the world had even its foundations, so why shouldn't the people of this world do the same?
>>11474740reminds mein japan the names ichirō, jirō, and saburō just mean "first son," "second son," and "third son," respectivelyand in ancient rome the names "prīmus," "secundus," "tertius," "quīntus," "sextus," "septimus," and "decimus" just meant "first," "second," "third," "fifth," "sixth," "seventh," and "tenth"
>>11475404He was interested in the sciences in primary school and seems to be quite ambitious and talented. Even though he's been spending his time learning about women on computers, I hope he can develop an interest and talent that would outshine his (female) peers. He does more with less and even gets to a point where he can give society a helpful breakthrough, but will his dreams and potential withstand the gender-pressure around him?
>>11475560If it can be helped, I imagine warriors would want to enslave and exploit their weaker neighbours' women too, rather than wastefully killing them all. Though we can tweak the symmetry for fantasy reasons, I don't think women have as much reason to kill other women as men have for killing other men. Service (economic, social, spiritual and personal) is the main benefit but if it has to be about sexual competitiveness, they can bear your grandchildren.Killing might be preferred in situations where there is overpopulation and starvation, or somebody is too uncontrollable and dangerous to be kept alive.You are the (female) king of a rich river-state, and you find a that on a neighbouring branch of the river, someone is trying to live a cozy life with her family rather than to heavily exploit the land for food, riches, and statecraft. Maybe you take the nicest males in her family for yourself or for the warriiors you want to reward, but her? She knows the local area and is respected among her people. She'd be a prestigious thing to play with and own, to have her use her connections to accomplish your goals of state. Her daughters can be sent to develop lands and pay taxes, or maybe they have special skills you could forecfully employ.
>>11475728Or Imagine that you lead a relatively insignificant band of nomads with too much leisure time, and a local empress sends her forces for you but you outmaneuver her and capture her instead. Insert some rituals of submission and suddenly your people are very prestigious in the land.When food production can be made dense (as in southeast asian paddy states - though I fantasize about greenhouse-building irrigation experts), control over people becomes more important than control over land, and the more people are in your service, the more powerful you are.The idea of goddesses being enslaved to other goddesses is unexpectedly interesting. What becomes of the temple families whose power and identity revolves around a goddess, whose powers may remain but whose will and authority has been taken by another?Maybe I'm being too lesbian about it, but I think "more women alive = good for everyone".
>>11475728>>11475729>I don't think women have as much reason to kill other women as men have for killing other men.As roving bands of raping women within a Matriarchal world don't exist, your interpretation is as legitimate as mine, however I'm not sure sure I agree with that statement. In fact, I would say that women have more reason to kill other women than men do for killing other men in our world. A big chunk of my reason comes from the interpretation as seeing violence in the pre-historical period as being both a means to demonstrate social status and a means to get rid of "surplus" humans. In our world, status within hunter-gatherer communities for males was largely defined by strength/martial prowess. Warfare between tribes wasn't driven by existential conflict over limited resources, but a need for males to advance within the hierarchy through acts of valor. An astonishing number of males in the period from 50,000BC to ≈4000BC died from human caused injuries, leaving a surplus of adult women purely through increased male mortality. Whether we know it or not, much of our lives today are determined by the factors that shaped society 50,000-100,000 years ago.This is how society developed with a male to female ratio of 1:1, but what if this were skewed drasitcally in the favour of females? If the ratio were 1:4, 1:8 or 1:10, not only would the incentives for violence shift in favour of the women, but the problem of surplus people and the subsequent "demand" for female on female violence would increase dramatically. Maybe its my natural proclivity towards grimdark worlds, but I love a Matriarchy that equally oppresses women as it does men only in vastly different ways. In my Matriarchy, the essence of femininity is intrinsically linked to female on female violence. From the moment a baby girl opens her eyes she is in a constant bloody war with other members of her sex over her own right to exist.
>>11475560I try to minimize killing women in my fantasies. Also, just seems like you're forcing a false equivalence here. Raping a woman could be seen as something equivalent to killing a man, but raping a man is in no way equivalent to "smashing the heads" of women.
>>11475765>raping a man is in no way equivalent to "smashing the heads" of women.There is no intended equivalence, "raping and pillaging" does not portray those two actions as equal, it treats those as two actions that are related through being part of the same process. Raping men and killing women just are two different things that go hand in hand.
>>11475560Well, given the setting, it'd be very easy for a religion to see men as something different fundamentally to women (ie, on the 'animal' side of the animal/human divide of recognizing importance, and only seeing women as 'human').With a setup like that, it'd be incredibly easy and justifiable for a religion to insist on using men like a resource, or as a point to demonstrate the conquest of one group of women over another (push into their camp and rape their men because they can't stop you anymore, and it's how you make their things yours. There's no more consideration given to the males than the goats. Both are livestock, except you fuck the former and eat the latter.Also if you go with>>11472580 then women have a very strong motivator to act like this, as sex/childmaking with multiple men is quite literally, physically empowering.>>11475719Very well put. I think the poll has stabilized now, so I'm going to start writing again in a bit.
>>11475774Noooo keep him in the arts. Let him make his mark in the arts
>>11475719>>11475789No, I want-I mean, he wants to be a househusband!
