Classic World Building Questions:>1) What setting would you choose for your scenario? Modern? Fantasy? Sci-fi? Based in reality?>2) What's the main supply of slaves?>3) In case of mass enslavement, how are new slaves kept and trained to ensure they won't rebel or disrupt the society?Questions for Masters/Mistresses:>1) How do you want your slave(s) to view you/feel about you?>2) Would you consider training new slaves in groups or pairs?>3) Would you train slaves with a history before enslavement, like friends, lovers, enemies, etc?>4) What general feelings would you want your slaves to have towards each other? Competition? Jealously? Hierarchical obedience? Affection? Partnership?Questions for slaves:>1) How would you get adjusted to a new Master, or your life as a slave?>2) Would your Master assign the duty of training you to another trusted slave, training you himself, or train you with another slave?>3) If trained in a group or as a pair, who is the other slave? Your friend, your enemy, your lover, etc.>4) What training will you be put through?Questions for Switches:>1) Are your Master and slave fantasies always separate, or do you like to imagine role reversals?>2) Are there differences in how you would treat your slave(s) vs. how you imagine being treated as a slave?Last thread:>>11483886*******************************No judging here! Post whatever you want relevant to the thread topic.*******************************
Where would you store your slave during a lunch break?
>>11510079God that picture is fantastic>pretty happy to do WFH>as is my slave, but unfortunately the chaotic neko mode has to activate immediately>"Master, Master! please pay attention to me instead, Master!">she'll have to be punished for this but it is just adorable>maybe after enduring her lashes she could calm down by sitting on my lap instead>>11510086Presumably a lot of workplaces that accommodate the workers having their slaves accompany them will have "lodgings" for said slaves when people don't want to deal with them. "lodgings" here meaning some extremely tight cells, that can keep a few slaves each locked up for a few hours if need be. This would be primarily office jobs or other forms of knowledge work where they workers have to be free people, and thus would want their personal slaves to continue the same service they give at home. They'd be well behaved enough that you can expect them to quietly kneel next to a table while people are eating, but it's always good to have a place to store them.
>>11510086Store? No she eats when I eat if a slave isn't fed her 3 meals a day she might fail in simple task from lack of proper food. I paid good money for one I expect her to operate at optimal capacity all day and night long.
>>11510086Just park them on a post
>>11510079>neko on the keyboardIf its like my real cat (RIP) it found the shortcut to change my keyboard to Japanese, made my icons huge, sent a message to a coworker over teams, and wrote a poem consisting of mostly the character /
>>11510086Comfy padded box.The screaming is temporary. She'll be fine.
I think I'd edge Rin quite a bit. Set her up in a chastity belt with internal vibrators or some sort of constant pleasure spell that prevents orgasm, switch it on, send her off to tend to her duties, and then just leave her alone and unmolested until she comes to me and begs for release. It'd be fun to see how long she lasts. Rin wouldn't get any explanation for this, of course. The less words the better. She's smart, she'd figure out this game pretty quick. Hopefully I'd be there to see the realization dawn on her, recognition lighting up her miserable, flushed face before turning to grim determination. There's no way she'll give this bastard what he wants!!Not that she has any chance of winning. There isn't even a way for her to win. The pleasure's just going to keep coming, non-stop, 24/7 until she gives in, no matter how many days it takes. She'll barely be able to sleep. I can see it now. Rin going about her demeaning, humiliating, entirely unnecessary chores, panting and sweating and utterly exhausted, filled with a desperate need to cum and juuuust barely holding on. Then when her master enters the room, she looks up at him, and quickly collapses to her knees, turning into a tight ball of arousal on the floor. Not to beg, oh no, but to struggle not to, desperately holding it in. Biting her lip, covering her mouth, moaning with want into her hands. No!! Don't do it!! Don't lose, you can't lose, you can't let him win!! But it's just as well. I'd want her to come to me with this request, not just let it slip out when I'm passing by. Make her take the walk of shame to my bedchamber, really sink it in that she's choosing to do this. As she was always going to.Yes, I think I'd edge Rin quite a bit.
>have a few female friends>my slave doesn't get all weird and yandere with them, maybe because they are obviously free people and she mostly bites other slaves, maybe because she is mercilessly bullied by them>like seriously, there's forced lez in terms of the performances I order her to put on with other slaves, and then there's whatever this is>I do not have a single picture of her with them where she isn't upset in some way>like they just know exactly how to humiliate her in a way that actually hurts, it's great>being left alone with them is a pretty serious torture, it's way worse without Master there to calm her, thankfully it's relatively rare that she fucks up bad enough to deserve such punishment.
All that talk about tavern slaves has me imagining a slave barmaid. Getting groped by customers all day is normal, but one night the crowd is getting very drunk, and before she knows it, she's being bent over a table...
>>11511786Well if she isn't allowed many if any clothes her entire life, and her job is to act pleasing while serving people and getting them drunk, what exact kind of treatment was she expecting? A bunch of good girls and headpats? Yeah no, maybe a personal slave can expect a little bit of kindness but tavern filth lives to get ravaged. If she's a good girl -maybe- she'll be left in a state to be put back into service the following morning, but realistically probably not.
>>11511786>>11511799Now why would you interrupt such a hard-working young woman in the middle of her duties? The other customers (and the owner) aren't going to be happy that their drinks have stopped coming. If you want holes to fill there's girls upstairs who are there for that (and not good for much else, skilled slaves are surprisingly hard to come by.)That and pic related have got me imagining a tavern with a barmaid who's locally known for her serving and crowd skills. Her owner keeps her off limits for anything other than a quick grope or spank, and she's allowed to enforce that. Locals like to prank visitors by telling them how good her oral skills are, and just go pull her to her knees, and everyone else laughs when they catch a hand chop to the throat
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>>11512105A shame, honestly people are less insane on that board
>>11511837That's the fun part - she's stupid enough to think that carrying drinks and food trays around is enough to set her apart from the tavern trash upstairs. There actually are establishments that are classy enough for that - but she had no clue she wasn't working for one of them. One moment she's serving the dinner rush, she slaps away the hands of a persistent customer - and then before she knows it she's being pinned over a table by too many grasping hands... Her owner doesn't care about the cheap sack-cloth that passes as her dress, and given how drunk the crowd is, it's just easier to charge them for using the barmaid than to try and stop them. The only one who doesn't understand the situation is the dumb cunt being folded in half on the tavern floor screaming and crying for her master to intervene as some huge musclebound thug ruts on her.
>>11511786Maids for May
My meaty (and clumsy as hell) maid
Need to be patient with neko slaves. Just because they've been a good girl lately and earned a cute maid uniform doesn't mean they won't still require discipline a lot of the time while wearing it.
>>11512674>Need to be patient with neko slavesTell me about it.
>>11512691A broken plate would mean the standard punishments, maybe confiscating her clothes until she behaves better, but if you do that she's going to need a hug and extra affection all the time to reassure her that Master still loves her and isn't going to dispose of his slave. It's just how nekos are, the little weirdos.
>>11512663she needs walkies
>>11512700To her favorite baker's shop? Sure, we do that every day.
>>11512707She gets excited when she can smell the pastries.
>>11512693when she knows she screwed up
>>11512819Aww, it's like puppy dog eyes. I might let her keep wearing her maid outfit if that was her response. she'd still have to disrobe for a beating but that's so sweet, a good way to convince Master to not rescind your special reward clothing privileges.
>>11512405>>11512405One of the few ways a slave can earn themselves a more comfortable life is to stand out is by excelling in their servitude. Even if a talented girl is bought by a seedy place to be freely used by customers, sooner or later someone is going to notice and offer the owner a good deal more than he paid for her. Do this a couple times and eventually she winds up at a place where she has some level of protection against unruly customers.This phenomenon is well known, and so even the dumbest and clumsiest slaves owned by the worst bars and inns are incenivised to do their best in the hopes they might escape their current situation.
What I really want is a slave, with normal slave qualities (absolute devotion, endless stamina, etc.) but also an intensely sadistic streak when it comes to other slaves. I want to come home to dinner (lovingly made by her) and a show (her torturing another slave for my amusement.) I want my other slaves to look at me with devotion, but look at her with nothing but fear that they'll be the one she picks for tonight. I want her to get off on all this as much as I do. I want to be able to reward her with permission to do more terrible things to the other slaves.
why are collars so hot?>finally get my own place>slowly becoming more degen>decide to buy a dog collar to wear it all day>order a really big one meant for big dogs>finally arrives 2 days later>it's loose on my neck, i prefer it tight>manage to create another hole on the strap somehow>finally put it on, it's kinda tight but feelsgood>feel fuzzy even wearing it>take off the collar, put it on the floor >start worshiping it covering it in kisses>put it back on>could not even wear it for more than 2 hours because it was turning me on so much, I could not even get any work done>wearing it puts me in a complete state of bliss, my head feels light and can't even form coherent thoughts>never been able to wear it for a full day because it is so distractingNever expected a basic dog collar would cause such strong reactions in me
>>11512940Or she can take her chances and just knock on someone's front door and get really lucky.Like my pampered pet who just showed up one rainy day.
>>11513067I love collars aesthetically but also for the psychological effects on slaves. If they're that intense then I don't think I would ever give permission to take it off. I'm not surprised that you worshipped it. It's like a warm embrace from Master, but one that never stops. If you're acting this way while supposedly unowned I can't imagine how your mind would be completely atomized by someone forcing it around your neck. >>11513132They seem to show up on rainy days. The cat distribution system also applies to neko girls. Mine will be celebrating her fourth year of service relatively soon. Four years since she...Just randomly ran under my umbrella one day, and refused to leave. Nekos are just like that.
A old childhood friend of yours, whom you've been great with but had not seen for a long time, asks for the two of you to meet up. As you arrive to the restaurant, he waves you over, already sitting, with one of his slaves wearing a bitchsuit on the floor next to him. "Hey! Anon!"As you arrive and sit next to him, he, apparently in a rush, starts speaking. "Look man, I know we haven't seen eachother in a while, but I need a favour from you. I want this bitch-" He says as he jerks the slave's leash to him "disciplined. I can't do it myself, but I know you're a slave owner aswell. I'll pay for the food and whatever when I get her back, but I can't tolerate her being so disobedient to me and I can't bring myself to punish her myself." He waves for the waiter. "Get him whatever he wants." Your friend says as he puts a hundred dollars into the waiters pocket. "Just don't get her pregnant or permanently damage or mark her." He glances around himself, looks at his phone, then pats you on the shoulder. "Sorry for leaving so soon, I'm in a rush, got a plane to catch - look, I'll take her back in three months, deal?" He says as he gets up and leaves.Your curiosity gets the better of you. You order a drink and then slide your fingers under the latex mask. You pull the mask up, revealing a familiar face. Miss Williams! Your old middle school teacher whom you loved and who was your favourite teacher and was great friends with your parents - warm memories of her visiting for a coffee and bringing gifts for you rush back. And also, your friends mother. She takes a moment to recognize you, then gives you a pained smile. You slide the dildo gag out of her mouth and begin the conversation with her, quickly finding out that she gambled herself into slavery, then got bought by her son, who refused to free her, only for their relationship to deteriorate when he started demanding respect as her master, while she was adamant about her being his mother.WDYD?
>>11512940>This phenomenon is well known, and so even the dumbest and clumsiest slaves owned by the worst bars and inns are incenivised to do their best in the hopes they might escape their current situation.That's my favorite part of the whole fetish - that moment of final submission, where they stop just enduring it and actively start serving their master. When they actually internalize the mental framing of a slave; accept that the only power they have over their life at all is to try and please their master. When they throw away teir shame and suck like a whore and plead with their eyes - please, please don't throw me away.
Since your slaves are often done with their necessary duties earlier than needed (sometimes there's more work to do and you want the excess capacity, of course) what happens to them when they're done? Do they lock themselves in a cage or set of restraints, or get locked in by a superior slave? Do they hold a pose somewhere until ordered elsewhere? Do they start some pointless menial task?
>>11514019Strongly depends upon the slave and the instructions I gave them beforehand. Some, most, probably, will just be given time off. A very few of them that caught my eye will be given much more specific tasks, like practicing certain jobs or hobbies. Even fewer of them will be tasked to seek me out for personal interaction after they are done with their assigned tasks.But some, either ones I chose to make examples out of or the ones I dislike (or like) or desire punished, will be given to a selection of higher ranking slaves. Here come the stress positions and free use stations.Picrel - a random slavegirl I randomly picked out to have punished. She gets fucked by 2 dozen male slaves, then whipped and forced to kneel for some 20 hours a day. Truth be told, she hadn't done anything to displease me. I just had her do the laundry and then randomly sent her to a senior slave to punish her for the rest of the day. I didn't intend to turn it into anything more, but when the senior slave kept punishing her after the initial day, I had the senior slave punished, but then ordered her to continue. It's been 3 weeks and I'm thinking about stopping this.
Thread slave forgot to put the slave records https://s.lain.la/rFVAL>>11513067Good slave! Your number is 067.
>>11514581God I would bully a slave who was organically assigned #67 so hard, you have no idea. Being forced to do humiliating displays of brainrot is a lot of fun, especially when you deliberately mix up the eras. Recording videos of her saying "Do a barrel roll! 6 7!" is especially entertaining because she's just a slave, her world is small and filled with misery and toil. her chances of even being familiar with either of those things are low, she'd have no idea they are two decades apart. Also slave 178 hasn't shown up in the thread in a while, she does do that, I think she gets anxiety or something, often comes in and out when it gets a bit too intense for her. I didn't assign her a task last weekend on purpose, but the primary part of it was going to be 50 push ups, put inbetween two other tasks. I don't think that would be too hard on her, especially considering I would have allowed her to just lie on the floor and rest once she gets too tired, it'd be a lot to expect her to do 50 all at once, but I was hoping she'd report back on her previous task so I could get a better sense as to what her body can endure.
>>11514019Usually my pet just sits down right next to me and starts eating some snacks of hers, while staring at me. It honestly gets awkward after a while.
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>>11514822Yeah they like to stare. There's only so much domestic service to do in one day, most idle time for mine is spent kneeling under my desk, ready to suck cock whenever she's told, but most of the time just resting her head on my lap, or kissing and worshipping various parts of me, I don't spend 100% of my time there though. That's when she has to follow me everywhere, and just keep her eyes completely fixed on me. It's a bit weird for guests who aren't used to it. No matter where I go she will follow a few steps behind, and if I stop for more than 10 seconds she will kneel and stare directly at me. she wasn't even trained to act that way, she just did. slaves tend to freak out when you maintain eye contact with them which means you can technically win a staring contest with them but only technically. It's right back to worshipping with their eyes the moment you're looking at something else.
>>11514829This is basically a daily thing for me:>*poke*>Hey, stop staring at me, it's getting weird.>Oh, sorry Master...>10 seconds later>*staaaaaare*>*poke*>I told you, stop staring at me.>Oh, sorry Master...>10 seconds later>*staaaaaaaaaaaare*
>>11514936If it's getting a bit much I tell her to tone it down and she is able to keep her eyes off me for...A few minutes, atleast. Hey sometimes she manages a full 5 of them.I mean think about it from the slave's perspective. Master is the entire reason she exists, her entire life is based around serving you, so why would she want to look at anything else? her full attention is either on her current task serving Master, or Master Himself. Forever.
Dammit, pet I told you already! Your birthday is tommorow!Freaking hog, I swear...
>>11514985Birthdays for me usually involve my slave cooking me a large feast for dinner, coming up with some unique entertainment using herself ontop of that, and getting handfed some scraps along the way. For her birthday, that is to say the day she was enslaved, same deal with throwing herself into making the best food possible for me, but she also has to make herself a simple human meal that can be eaten from her feeding bowl. Not just her usual gruel. This is surprisingly hard for her, but the increased physical affection usually puts her in the right state of mind to be okay with people being nice to her. Usually most of her birthdays she tells me she's a awful slave and I deserve better than her, she should be tortured to death for how neurotic she consistently is, but hey. I chose to enslave her precisely because she's like that.
>>11514803but i do know about 67, master :D
>>11515080>>11514985Oh hey if we're on the subject of birthdays that's a perfect time to copy paste something I wrote a while back>I know many of you are into the "slaves are just dime-a-dozen rapemeat below even animals" side, but pic related is honestly my ideal>These slaves are genuinely ecstatic that it's your birthday and having a great time alongside you. They even get to participate in the festivities, which heavily implies they're appreciated and beloved>But at the same time, they're tied up naked while eating out of dog bowls. Even while celebrating, the overkill bondage and sexual objectification never ends for them. >No attention or fanfare is drawn to any of this whatsoever, it's an everyday part of their lives they don't see anything strange with.
>>11514581Treating your slave maids like this is great fun. Assure her that this state of bondage doesn't affect her duties at all, nor her punishment should she fail to fulfill them. Switch on her vibes, slap her ass, let her go to work. Just look at Jeanne's face there. She knows this is ludicrously unfair, she knows you know this is ludicrously unfair, yet she also knows that doesn't change a thing.
Good thread.
>>11515211Idea: one slave maid in a hobble dress, with a dildo gag mounted sponge, and one slave maid in a bitchsuit, with a large, nearly full bucket of water on her back. The first slave must constantly bend over to clean the sponge. The second must follow the first around the house without spilling any, or if she does, the first must scrub it off the floor and then somehow stand back up in her ballet boots and armbinder. If any trace is found on the floor, or cleaning isn't done on time, both are punished in equal measure.>>11515205The only thing I like more than slaves who really don't want to be in their position, are slaves who REALLY want to be in their position.
>>11515203Aww, you are cute, slave 67. Does putting on that collar of yours just completely fuzz up your mind? >>11515205Yeah, I've always liked slavery depicted as a romantic relationship, just a very extreme one. They're treated with cruelty and objectification because they're slaves, not because they are unloved or unappreciated. It's normal for a slave to expect to be treated as still a thing, but a valued and loved thing. The best slave is one who is obviously oppressed. she's nude, collared, and kneeling on the floor, and has a beaming smile on her face since she loves every second of it.
>>11515337Yes master! I love how it feels when it rubs against my neck. I wish I could wear it outside too. I have tried chokers but they don't satisfy that need.
>>11515730Wearing it announces to the entire world just what you really are. I'm not surprised that you're scared to wear it outside, and that chokers don't really do the same job. Tell me slave, when you're at home and just being completely humbled by wearing your collar to the point you can't even do any work properly, are you wearing clothes? Because you shouldn't be. slaves aren't people, and it's insulting to the people you worship to cover yourself up the same way we do.
>>11515754Yes collars really make me feel fuzzy like i said here >>11513067About clothes I love being naked with only my collar on. Lately I have been sleeping crawled up on the floor instead of my bed.One of the things I love is forced smiling but it's impossible to find anything in that niche. I have read only few stories and porn with that. Does anyone have any recs?about clothes only collar
>>11515912Aww, is your brain leaking out of your ears or something? The fact that you're made this dumb and this overwhelmed by your collar is a good sign. Freedom was never a option for you, slave.It's good to see that you already know that you're just a animal. Sleeping on the floor, the only time you deserve to rest in a bed is when a person wants to enjoy you warming their bed. Without that order, you will only know the cold floor. There's actually not a lot of forced smiling out there, now that I think of it. There's plenty of depictions of bullying slaves, but 80% of the time they're freaking out instead of plastering that smile on their face like they were told. I actually can't think of any fiction with it being a central theme, which is a shame. It's a good way to sum up a slaves reality: she needs to have that smile on her face, and if she is ever caught not showing everyone how happy she is there is immediate correction and discipline. The mask slipping even for a second could mean feeling a hard slap across your face before you even realize you did it.
>>11514822She can just sit under my desk and keep my dick warm. I don't know what's cuter, her making eye contact with me when she sucks pacifically, or her trying to make eye contact when she can't see. Also so much fun to tease her when she has to use her lips and mouth to find Master's cock, and I slap her cheeks with it. Both ways are great.
>>11514803>178 hasn't shown up in the thread in a whileI got excessively autistic with my orders in the last thread.We'll have to give her a treat (order her to give herself a treat) next time she shows up.
>>11516224I have a feeling she's plenty autistic just like all of us, so having anxiety is pretty normal. I'm not sure what treat I would order for her. Maybe that she has permission to touch herself, but not all the way to orgasm. her sunday edging day instead of release day. One time I swear she was in charge of making these threads and deleted it over night, when I ordered her to hold a pose in corner time that it turns out might not have been very possible. Caused some sort of anxiety breakdown, so I wouldn't be too self-conscious about giving her possibly too complex orders, half of her body weight is just pure anxiety like a lot of slaves are.
>>11515954God damn it Google is a gay search engine nowadays I can't reverse search this image because the AI doesn't like sexual things.Do you have sauce?
>>11516257I got that on a pixiv dive more than a few days ago, my computer claims may 9th and it's usually truthful about such things, I didn't take note of the specific artist but I think you can use the pixiv file name ID thing to search it back up, can't remember the exact technique. I will warn you though I am 95% positive this image was tagged as AI, it stuck out to me for a lot of reasons beyond that but damn, aside from it still having slightly off looking skin texture I would not have been able to tell. It's a fantastic image, being bullied by other girls always drives home just how inferior a slave actually is, and being the only one fully nude just immediately lets everyone know who has zero power of any kind.
>>11516260Yeah you just replace the number in the URL, pixiv makes it easy as hell, this would be the source: https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/143948031The only other pic that stands out is a couple alternatives that are a bit more unnatural looking with the posing, even if forcing the victims legs apart would be way more hot. Must be why I didn't actually save picrel back then. All the rest of the stuff on that profile is either that kind of averagely bad AI artwork or loli so yeah not great. Maybe someone who actually uses AI could tell me why this turned out way better but I am one bad day away from starting the butlerlian jihad for real so I don't use AI of any kind out of principle.
>>11516197>sucks pacifically, or her trying to make eye contact when she can't seeHer world begins and ends with my touch
>>1151591267 should strip down and collar up into slavemode whenever they are able to get away with it. slaves only get to dress normally when absolutely required.naked when possible. underwear never, even when clothed.maybe two sets of an oversized t-shirt with socks or pantyhose; to be used when you must be dressed (going out, when it's a little cold)and of course, the collar as much as possible.and of course, no touching without permission, stupid.
>>11516486still working some bugs out
Why are pets so weird? She's fine walking around naked 24/7 but the second I give her some kinky clothes she gets embarrassed.
>>11515205Slave girls who want and enjoy this kind of life for life The best kind of slave
>>11515220Not bad. A little overengineered, but I can't say no to bondage maids. >>11516511>no finger cuffs, no tape balls, no hand restraints at allWorthless.
>>11515954>>11516511Yes master! I am thinking of wearing my collar outside today under a hoodie.I had an idea for forced smiling today, I don't know the tech but here it goes.>do a painful punishment like whipping myself>setup a camera that analyses my expressions(kinda like how iphone camera can detect if ur smiling)>if it detects any other emotion other than smiling it activates an electric shock in my collar Does anyone know if this would be possible to build?
>>11518337>>I am thinking of wearing my collar outside today under a hoodie.penis gag under a mask>if it detects any other emotion other than smiling it activates an electric shock in my collarIt's doable but you'd need to be in front of a camera they whole time. Better off if your mouth was otherwise occupied.
>>11517660Overengineered maybe, but there's no fun in making their job too easy. Plus, considering the effort it took to get them in the outfits, they'll probably be in there for a good while. That's especially bad for the one in the bitchsuit, as it's a much more strenuous position, and since it's kind of hard to fuck her in it she won't even get any pleasure out of it.>>11518337That's very possible and probably within the realm of DIY stuff today. I'd add a couple things, though:>the computer handles the whip, with a motor, and strikes on a random timer without warning>collar has a throat microphone, to make sure you stay totally silent when struck (and also to make sure the whip itself doesn't trigger it)It could also be used for oral training, with a dildo with a pressure sensor inside>light turns on, you have 5 seconds to take it to the base>light stays on for 30 to 90 seconds, computer whips you 3 to 10 times during that time>move your head back at all, or any pressure from your teeth, and you get shocked>this cycle runs 5 times per session, minimum, any shock resets the counter and increases the power of the next shock
>>11515954>There's actually not a lot of forced smiling out there, now that I think of it.I remember seeing a dental gag at an IRL shop that forced the wearer's mouth into the shape of a smile.
>>11518337>Yes master! I am thinking of wearing my collar outside today under a hoodie.Good girl! If you're able to do that you actually have permission to touch yourself when you get back home. Just a single orgasm and no more, but you'd still be a very good slave, #67.>forced smilingIt does technically seem doable, assuming you have a shock collar that can be networked in some way. I'm sure you'd run into a host of problems attempting to hack it together but the biggest one I can see would it be failing to accurately recognize your emotions, and shocking you for no reason despite you absolutely beaming with the most forced smile imaginable. I suppose that's just the cruelty of being under the control of a cold machine instead of grovelling for the warmth of a human Master. >>11518604I don't doubt there's more than a few ways to force a more permanent smile. It's not just the smile on the slaves face though, it's the fact that she is still happy to be little more than a slave, and despite the misery and torture she endures she still pushes herself to display how grateful she is to her betters at all times. A gag can't make her think that kneeling in the dirt at a person's feet is her happy place.
There's no better feeling than breaking in a male slave. It's great using their horny feelings against the, leaving them a husk that can only beg for their mistress.
More male slaves to even the score a bit.
>>11518632Cocks are so much more sensitive. It's like a "abuse me please" handle on the front end of a slave, it's great. A slave should be happy to see you, and will be teased if that little thing between their legs is also happy, and beaten if it isn't.
>>11518637Bad slaves will get their dicklet caged and balls crushed. What's the point of keeping their dicks free if they can't get hard at the sight of you?
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>>11518628Master ! I went out today to buy groceries while wearing my collar. I kept it hidden under my hoodie. It felt good. Thank you master for the orgasm, I rubbed myself against the edge of the bed frame with my hands behind me.>>11518410I love the microphone idea. I am a huge fan of stories where slaves don't even have control over their senses. There was an image that depicted controllable eye lenses and ear plugs so the master could set the opacity and hearing levels on the slave. If the master was watching tv he could blind and deafen the slave and have them serving him.>>11518340I might have to buy one soon sir.
>>11518982>Master ! I went out today to buy groceries while wearing my collar. I kept it hidden under my hoodie. It felt good. Thank you master for the orgasm, I rubbed myself against the edge of the bed frame with my hands behind me.Good slave! you even went above and beyond to masturbate in a humiliating way, I'm proud of you, #67. Since you're being so good if you show up to beg tomorrow I will have a pretty minor task for you to do in order to earn your sunday release. Until then remember that your little hoodie is just for outside, and indoors you will never deserve clothes. >I am a huge fan of stories where slaves don't even have control over their sensesIt is a fun idea, having such complete control over a slave. she exists to serve, so if she doesn't need sight or sound for her current task, then she just doesn't have it. Its superfluous to her existence in that moment. Like serving as a footstool while Master is watching TV, she might need her sight or hearing turned back on if ordered to suck cock, or serve some drinks, but until then it just isn't necessary. her world is what is needed to serve, and no more.
>>11516197>>11516486blowjob station slaves are the best
>>11518410Man I fucking love that picture. All that strength and physical fitness poured into the effort of holding this position and not spilling her master's drink while the implied vibes stir her up non-stop. She can't even shake her head. And you just know he's the very picture of casualness, idly picking up and sipping that wine before setting it back down on her tray. Probably in the middle of something else, chatting with some guest, barely paying attention to her. >>11519078Man, that look away. It's the little things.
>>11518995Thankyou master! Today after work I spent most of my time naked in a collar. I tried to sleep with my collar but it was turning me on too much, so I slept without it. Sorry master !! however I didnt touch myself, can I please have my task?One thing that I love about the slave/master dynamic is that for a slave the master is their entire existence but for the master the slave is just one of the slaves, sometimes they might not even remember the slave's name.
>>11519421You're going to need some markers for body writing, if you don't have those on hand then if you have a pen or pencil or anything that you can try to mark yourself with then that will do, I will appreciate the effort regardless. you will write "67" somewhere on your body in exactly 20 different places. Not "#67", not "slave 67", just "67". you have permission to write it only on parts of your body that can be obscured by clothes, and to wear something like that hoodie of yours indoors until it's washed off in the shower if you're a bit too concerned about someone seeing you in this state. you also have permission to take pictures of yourself for posterity. This is not a order, you will only do this if you're comfortable with it, but it would be something that would be endearing to show a future Master, I know I would like it. Once you've branded your number all over yourself you have permission to touch yourself to exactly one (1) orgasm. I like how creative you were degrading yourself last time so your orders are also to come with with another humiliating way to cum, and to report back after having done so. Taking that initiative is a big reason why you aren't being forced to do a lot of exercise today. Do not let me down. >One thing that I love about the slave/master dynamic is that for a slave the master is their entire existence but for the master the slave is just one of the slaves, sometimes they might not even remember the slave's nameI do like slaves and think about them a lot but that is true, they aren't my entire world and you are just one of many slaves. you things aren't even all that different from each other, mostly being crazy in a few similar ways. It wouldn't be hard to forget a slaves name, especially if they still had a old human one that feels insulting to real people to refer to them with.
I just realized that my pet can't do bunny hops properly anymore because of my pampering. Oh well.
>>11513067>>11515730>>11515912Just curious, are you ever in the femporn general on /h/?
>>11513067>why are collars so hot?I wish I knew! I get a similar feeling from mine, too.I like to wear mine at night, leashed to the bed post. It makes it so difficult to fall asleep, though, as it's all I can think about.
>>11519627It's like a embrace from Master, but around your neck, reminding you that you're a slave, forever. Sure its aesthetically pleasing to me, but the psychological effects on slaves is its true value.
>>11519452Now that's just abusive.Remember, at a healthy weight you should be able to feel their ribs but not see them.
>>11519685>you should be able to feel their ribs but not see them.It's usually slaves refusing to eat that is the problem, that's the rule I use with mine. Daily body inspections are a fun ritual but also help catch if she's feeling particularly bad about something and coping by lowering her gruel rations to "atone to Master".I guess the other end of that is a problem too, both impact her quality of service, but when it's a slave's Master that is doing it there's not much that can be done. Sure I feel bad for slaves sometimes, but legally speaking most slave welfare laws are barely enforced. It's a shame, but pampering a big airhead like that is nowhere near the worst I've seen.
>>11519438Thank you master for being generous enough to give me a task. I feel honoured.After finishing my shift and running some errands, I proceeded with the task since I could be myself for atleast the next couple of hours. I wrote 67 on each of my cheeks, three under the collar, one on each of my nipples, massive 6 and 7 on each breast followed by four 67's around my belly button. Two on my inner thighs, two on ass cheeks and two on each arm. Finally it was time to orgasm! I have this medium sized panda that I have done things to quite often in the past :D I kept in on the floor at one end of my flat and I crawled to the opposite end of my flat. After that I blindfolded myself and tied both my legs together and then I tied both my arms behind my back. The next step was to crawl and find my plushie, it took me a while to slither towards it. After finding it I helplessly rubbed myself against it however I was getting too tired to be aroused so it took me almost 1.5hrs to orgasm.The whole ordeal made me so exhausted that I almost fell asleep in my bondage. The next morning I scrubbed off the visible bodywritings but wore the hidden ones to work.>>11519550No never been there, why?.
>>11519957you really are completely pathetic, slave 67. Good job. Degrading yourself this way for a complete internet stranger who lives on another continent, clearly you were always meant to live in chains. It's a shame you can't really have the kind of job you deserve, toiling in hard labour in fear of your overseers whip until you return home after your shift, only to fear your Master's whip during your domestic toil. Still, I am pleased with you, and that was quite a enjoyable mental image of you doing your best to hump that traumatized panda plushie, I bet it's seen a lot.
>>11519957>No never been there, why?This was posted there before.
This is one of my favorite pictures. But the artist fyxfd nuked most of his works on his account and seems to be leaving this series unfinished. I have no idea why. Luckily, it was saved on sad panda.
>>11518877Any more pictures of slave couples?
>>11519685B-but my comfy, soft, warm body pillow...And no like I'd ever order her to run a marathon or something.
>>11520660Serving as a human body pillow isn't the worst fate I've seen for slaves. Not even close. she's luckier than a lot of her sisters.
>>11520666Right? She might not be as agile as she was back when I first bought her, but she's living a comfy life now. For a slave anyway. No beatings or starving in this household, no sir.She might be dumb and clumsy these days, but not like she needs to do tons of physical work or thinking anymore anyway.
>>1151995767 shouldn't be allowed to cum until it can sleep the entire night wearing only a collar
>>11513695Well, I'd give it a go but I'd first need to contact the friend (henceforth addressed as motherfucker, of course) to see if he wants me to just give her a beating or if he's expecting me to train her, which is not my expertise and I'm not sure how capable i am of training someone to act as a slave despite her master refusing to treat her as one.
>>11514936A blindfold could easily fix that though
>>11520727Hm. Maybe later on, it appears to turn the things brain into complete mush, it'd just be setting her up to fail to order her to sleep in it when she is already having trouble stopping her hands from wandering down to what she thinks with.
>>11519663>It's like a embrace from Master, but around your neck, reminding you that you're a slave, forever.That makes a lot of sense!>Sure its aesthetically pleasing to me, but the psychological effects on slaves is its true value.I get such a powerful and intense feeling when I wear it. I guess it must be the physical sensation of it against my neck that seems to keep that feeling at the front of my mind, even when I'm trying to concentrate on something else.It feels good to be constantly reminded of my place as a slave at all times, and I love that my thoughts are occupied by it so completely.It's like my place is the only important thing I need to know, and everything else is irrelevant.
>>11520777It switches your brain from "normal" to "slave". I'm...Actually still impressed by just how much it is able to do to slaves. It's just a single tool to enforce compliance and yet it does far more than most others.It's like Master isn't just hugging your neck, he is hugging your entire soul. Ideally a slave should rarely know life without it.
>>11520744Nah, she'd just panic again.
>>11520784>It's like Master isn't just hugging your neck, he is hugging your entire soul. I love that! That makes me all tingly!>Ideally a slave should rarely know life without it.That would be the dream! I would be surprised if any slave would prefer not to wear their collar forever.I would love to have a permanently locked collar.
>>11520788>I would love to have a permanently locked collar.I think it would eventually cause problems with rust in the shower, which is a shame if you want to get a lifetime of service out of a slave, but there's not really a good reason to not have it be their constant companion. It being locked on the day your life was no longer yours, at all times viscerally feeling your loss of freedom around your neck, digging down deep into your soul.I'd love to stare directly into a slaves eyes as she hears that final click, and knows that it's my life now. her entire existence is now at my mercy.
>>11520788With my slaves I'd go as far as a full set of permanent cuffs on elbows, wrists, and ankles in addition to the collar, with low-profile rings for attaching locks and chains. You might be able to forget about the collar if you're in the middle of something intense, but looking at the cuffs on your wrists when you're working (or feeling your arms locked together any other time), that'd be hard to ignore.>>11520791We figured stainless steel out like 200 years ago broski
>>11520811>We figured stainless steel out like 200 years ago broskiYeah its probably not that big of a problem. I like having the limbs feel the embrace too, although I think I'd stop at cuffs on the wrists and ankles. The neck will always feel the most intense, but the limbs also cannot move without that cold reminder. Every step is done as a slave, she cannot even do any work with her hands without knowing she's a slave. I can't exactly explain why I find having cuffs binding a slave in more places less aesthetically pleasing, maybe it's the minimalism. It's like she isn't actually naked anymore once you hit a certain level of restraints.
>>11520815Personally I always like more restraints over less. I'm a fan of having her elbows touching whenever her arms are locked behind her back, so I'd want the cuffs up there too. Plus, if she doesn't have a lot of work to do on a given day, you can leave her elbows locked together for your entertainment.
>>11514581I am honored, aroused, and mortified to see myself at the very top of an official slave registry. To be put on display as the free use communal property of the thread. Knowing that every time a sadistic dom is looking for meat to abuse and be served by, I will be the first one considered.I don't know if I or other slaves are allowed to directly write to the records, but I'd like to request the following updates:>PronounsAny>'Moderately obedient'Absolute slander calling my obedience 'moderate.'>self-defense cable whipIt is an electrical/charging cable folded and used as a whip. It's not a weapon.>My pending ordersPlease move the one pending to a standing order until a dom says otherwise. I did not mean to refuse the order to post pics. I simply had nothing else to post afterwards and excused myself from the threads for awhile. Technically I have not yet violated that order.I'm not sure how much I was expected to know about this without being told. But if any dom thinks I deserve to be punished, I will take it as a learning opportunity.On a side note, one thing that's difficult about posting pics is how indecisive I am about what to post.>Was this reposted recently?>Is it high enough quality?>Is it anime enough to be posted on /d/?I like a lot of western smut, so things like andysdames or sleepygimp have nice slave art that I'd like to post. But a lot of fetishes only exist on a single board. There's no slavery general on /aco/, /hr/, /e/, or /gif/
>>11520881>Pronouns, cable whip, pending orders, slanderUpdated.>I did not mean to refuse the order to post pics.The order was Pending, not Refused. That's just where I put orders that were asked of you, but to which you did not respond.>I'm not sure how much I was expected to know about this without being told.I simply write down orders that other anons post in this thread. Read the thread and you'll know your orders. If you look in the slave records, every single listed order has a link to a post in the thread. For example, the post that asked you to have on-topic images is this one: https://desuarchive.org/d/thread/11483886/#11501149>>Was this reposted recently?You're a slave, you have eyeballs, scroll up and see if there's a similar image in the thread. If the image is exactly identical to an image currently on /d/ it wont let you upload it anyway.>Is it high enough qualityIf it doesn't look like a bad TV station then its okay.>andysdames and sleepygimpProbably not anime enough for /d/. Go on sites like pixiv to find anime art that's where many images on this thread come from.>no slavery general on /e/ or /gif/There is sometimes a slavery general on /e/. One died recently. If you have lots of pictures for /aco/ maybe you should make a thread there.
How would you humiliate a captured evil queen?Non-specific answers (Like just saying you would publically humiliate her) will get your dom license revoked. I want details
>>11521298>How would you humiliate a captured evil queen?Breed her and have her be the mother of many royal heirs, legitimacy is done through bloodline and pedigree.The natural outcome of defeat for a noble women is being bred regardless of what she wants.Rape & Stockholm syndrome and toying with motherly instincts. Eventually she'll give in.>publically humiliate herYes but done in a tasteful way, she'll be enslaved yes but her body is for master's use only.She'll given clothes befitting a noble woman but still be collared and gagged.Public appearances will be especially fun once she starts showing signs of pregnancy.Might even have dresses made that expose her belly a bit, perfect place for birth tally tattoos.Any spare heirs will be Trained as heroes, think the classic adventurers defeating evil.Except it's publicly known who their mother is and who she was before being "saved from herself".Even more fun when she knows exactly what being bred means.
>>11521298Put her in a display case in the royal museum, but somewhere off in a side room, and without any extra signage compared to the other exhibits. Her display is the same size and form factor as the mannequins with the damaged armor of her royal guard and the captured documents from her treasury. The only addition is a button that visitors can push to shock her, but of course the case is soundproof so the only reaction you can see is squirming and crying.>>11520881If it's a good picture, it's relevant to my post, and it hasn't been posted in this thread yet, I'll post it. I don't really care about the western/eastern distinction, there's plenty of great western art and terrible eastern art out there.
>>11521298I can't answer that without knowing who she is.
>>11520744>>11520787It just makes them extra huggy, and prone to PDAs. And paradoxically, they begin to crave the dark.
>>11518982>I might have to buy one soon sir.unless their mouth is being used, a slave should be gagged at all times. Get on it.
>>11518982>controllable eye lenses and ear plugs so the master could set the opacity and hearing levels on the slavethere are transition lenses that darken when exposed to UV light. In a relatively dark room, a simple UV light, like the kind used to detect urine stains would in theory blind or limit the amount of vison the wearer has.Another idea would be high prescription contact lenses, as so make the wearer hopelessly nearsighted, that only things an inch away would be clear. Or farsighted to the point where everything is out of focus.Earbuds could easily be set to play white noise, but be connected to a microphone, allowing only Master's voice to reach a slave's ears.In public, I like to keep slaves blind, but it's not practical for manual labor. Limiting slaves' vision is something I've experimented with, but low vision doesn't put them in subspace the same way as taking their sight completely.
>>11520791>I'd love to stare directly into a slaves eyes as she hears that final click, and knows that it's my life now. her entire existence is now at my mercy.I'd love to experience that. It must feel bittersweet to lose your freedom, but also deeply gratifying to know ownership of your life has been claimed by someone more deserving of it.It must also be a relief to not need to worry about that life any more, and focus solely on being a better slave!
What kind of music does your slave like?My pet isn't too picky, as long as there's a simple, easy to follow rhythm to it.
>>11521541I think this is probably something that some people need to hear.When you think about the appeal of being a slave or other lifestyle D/s there can be genuinely many positives. But you must consider why it is you want this. There are factors that may be pulling you in, but there are also factors pushing you away from your existing life. Whether you know it or not, there's probably something you're running from. I've found, talking to people who want to be the slave of others online and also IRL, that it's often more push than pull. Prospective slaves who want to give up everything in their lives to go serve someone, and I've known more than a few, are generally some of the more disordered people I've met.Sure, wearing a collar feels amazing. Think about why it feels amazing though. Are you afraid of being rejected? There's a solid chance statistically that you have undiagnosed cptsd. You should look up the symptoms and see if it describes you. You probably have problems with your self image. It would probably make you happier to see a therapist and work on these things. You deserve to have a support system and people to talk to. You deserve to have a dominant that cares about you and helps you work on these things. Everybody does. You deserve to pursue happiness for yourself, independent of the burning need you probably feel to please others.All of this is slavery stuff can be genuinely helpful to play with. It has been for me, and I know that it's helped other people (and non-people) in my life. My dynamic makes me feel very secure and loved, it's great. I wouldn't trade it for anything in the world. I hope you find something similar. But I think any such relationship needs to be built upon mutual trust and care for both parties. That comes before the kayfabe we make real. Finding a self image together that works better for you and doesn't make you miserable.Anyway. Hopefully this helps.
>>11521946I'm that dom she was quoting, just been quiet due to being multiple days into what I think mental breaks look like for me at this stage in my life, yeah you've got a lot of it figured out, a lot of people in this thread are going to want to listen to this specific internet stranger. "kayfabe we make real" is a phrase that also extremely fits. I hope the slaves in this thread don't read too much into just how cruel I talk to them here sometimes, a lot more than I do in person with them, though the rarity of that is destroying me lately. I post a lot about basically dom therapy but then also have posts about subjecting them to some pretty horrific torture, it might feel a bit hot and cold for a lot of slaves who as you say tend to be extremely disordered to begin with. Will always tell a slave she's a pathetic animal, a creature who only exists to serve her betters, and then never once have anything but praise for her body, alongside making sure she eats every single ration she's allowed. I probably do have cptsd. Flashbacks aren't supposed to be 90% of your life, probably.
>>11521539>there are transition lenses that darken when exposed to UV light.We can do even better: Opaque glass that becomes transparent when an electric current is run through it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_glassIt would pair well with electric ear plugs. Hopefully the slave doesn't forget to recharge her headset, or she'll be blind and deaf until Master comes to her rescue again.
Envy is a real problem among slaves. How do you deal with it? I'm tired of random badly trained slaves calling my pet a ¨cow¨ or a ¨pig¨ in the public, she always feels down for hours afterwards. It's not her fault that I've fed her so well.
>>11522167>I'm tired of random badly trained slaves calling my pet a ¨cow¨ or a ¨pig¨ in the public,Slaves should always be gagged in public.
>>11521967I think Kayfabe is a very good word, and there's a reason I used it. Because, this is sexual roleplay, right? It's not real.But that's not really the case. After some time you realize that it IS real. First you get immersed in the moment and forget you're acting. Then you start feeling feelings. You start to identify in certain ways, because they are accurate to the way you feel. And then before you realize, your self-image and worldview have changed. It's fake until it's not.The is intentional though. I think it's one of the hottest parts. I've never really been able to get into roleplay. I entered the kink scene with curiosity. Stuck around because I made some good IRL friends. Then I continued with the intention of making it as real as possible. I really want my dominant to push me. True threats, real tears, the full Authentic experience. Make it real. The pain makes it real too, it is something tangible and affirming. Conditioning also makes it real. It works no matter what your opinions on the matter are. So in conclusion, I really am who I roleplay as.>cruel I talk to them here sometimes, a lot more than I do in person with them>Will always tell a slave she's a pathetic animal, a creature who only exists to serve her bettersWhat I'm saying is, everyone is different. I know some submissives for which this would be a great arrangement. I know others for whom it would absolutely not. It's your job to get to know them really really well, figure out how they tick, and help cultivate a kayfabe that they can feel great to be a part of.The details of this tend to vary wildly from person to person. It feels weird though, to me, to talk about this sort of stuff without a particular submissive in mind. No matter what they are though, it's important to care for them as an individual first and foremost, in the manner they need to be cared for. It varies wildly.Best of luck.
>>11522061>We can do even better: Opaque glass that becomes transparent when an electric current is run through it:I've seen that done. It was tied to an app on her master's phone with two buttons, clear and blind. He has another invention where unless she keeps her hands together, she gets a nasty shock. I like the subtlety of the contacts, the wide, lost look on their faces. And as a fan of hidden bondage, the deliciousness of the fact that no one around her has a clue as to what's going on.
>>11522526"vision" not "clear"
>>11522061>Hopefully the slave doesn't forget to recharge her headset, or she'll be blind and deafThe charge makes the glass turns almost opaque, so just the opposite. You'd need to keep some juice to keep it dark for her.A lower tech version of that would have circular lenses, both polarized, that you could control the brightness by simply changing the orientation of the lenses.
>>11522530There are both kinds. I just prefer the one that turns opaque when you turn it off.
Playing AoE2, see this, immediately think of these threads and conquered queen fetish stuff. Damn you, /d/.
>>11522526>And as a fan of hidden bondage, the deliciousness of the fact that no one around her has a clue as to what's going onI'm not a switch, I just want a vulnerable little neko slave but fuck if that doesn't sound like fun either way.
>>11522749It is. It also comes in very handy if you have a medusa slave.
>>11521377I don't have any specific character in mind. I already gave an example with the video, but if your pic means you're a Kuroinu fan, then I guess imagine someone like Radomira from Kuroinu 2.
>>11524019Oh, not at all. I don't even know the girl you posted. Then I can't help you. Someone with as much fame, reputation, and image as a queen needs a more personal humiliation than some catch-all scenario.
>>11522193This is sort of how it was for me as well. I fell so quickly and easily into being a slave and I wanted to do it full time but the guy who I was doing it with was not as into it. He did it because he knew I liked it but it made him uncomfortable so it didn't really work out. I've come to terms with the fact that I'll probably never have the opportunity to have something even close to what I want. Its just too hard to find someone who is on your wavelength who is not a creep. Oh well. Back to gooning for me I guess.
>>11523482The sneks have cat ears!
>>11524628The story you have isn't too uncommon. I don't blame slaves at all for giving up, it's so hard to find someone who you actually trust with that level of control. People who are normal and empathetic tend to have trouble actually exerting that control in a exciting way, even if they try their best. I...Realize now I probably am the one giving off creep vibes to prospective slaves, that is soul crushing but it's better to have that introspection than to not. You've got to meet slaves where they are and figure them out, much like that person said, and clearly I was failing a lot of initial tests.>>11524682I never noticed that the first time seeing that image. Absolutely adorable. Makes me want a slave who has a few beloved plushies, and matching cat ears for each one.
>>11524628It's fairly niche, yeah. Even in kink communities, most people are not into lifestyle stuff. But I do recommend meeting more people at munches and such, it's good to keep your social circle expanding. I go to munches I've never been to so I can meet people, and it works out pretty well, I recommend it, it's how I met my current partner. Go make a bunch of friends first.There have been multiple times when I thought I was absolutely hopeless and that no one was ever going to love me again in the way that I need. That turned out to be very wrong. Solid chance it's wrong for you as well. You might have to increase your surface area for luck, go to more events, move to an area where there's more public kink events happening, etc. But you're almost certainly not as hopeless as you think you are. It's more a matter of if you are in a position in your life where you can prioritize making kink friends.
Are these good outfits for slave girls?
>>11525181Depends. If the store only sells sizes for the average slaves, then no.
>>11525181The right outfit for your slave girl is the one you think she looks best in.Personally if I had to have a "default" option for my slaves it would probably be an elbow gloves/leggings combo. Nothing important is covered and I think tight-fitting outfits on a well-toned slave look great. YMMV.
>>11525296Another example.I like the clock on this one. Maybe she's a remotely managed slave who has to hold this pose for 15 minutes each day (and another 15 with the other leg) and the stopwatch is for video proof. Totally unnecessary but the ticking probably makes it seem like hours to her.
so hot
>>11524628>I'll probably never have the opportunity to have something even close to what I wantIt really depends with what you want.Even if I'm a dominant sadistic bastard and I have certain ideas about what kind of slave I want there are certain precautions to take in mind. People have work, friends, family, hobbies, etc.Plus it really depends how much you are willing to give to the relationship. Are you willing to do all the chores of your Master's house? Are you willing to give him control over how you dress or your hair? Are you willing to let him put you through surgery if he wants you to have bigger tits?I think most people don't really think what "slavery" really means.
>>11525979I do think those are relevant considerations. Setting limits is good when you're putting everything on the table. Although I hope that by the time you want to start a dynamic like this with someone you already know each other really well. Well enough to for both of you to understand the way the other ticks, and to have already had conversations about limits.I think there are also other considerations that come up first. As you say, the question is, what does "I'm your slave" actually mean? But I take this to mean "What set of activities do you actually enjoy?"I've got no hard data, but from anecdotal evidence I think most people would probably just be more happy roleplaying it in bed. Or maybe getting fucked randomly around the house or something. And that's perfectly alright, if that's you I recommend it.Speaking for myself as to why I like what I like, I have this strong desire to serve, and to make my master/mistress's life better. I don't particularly like cooking and cleaning, although it's not the worst, but it gives me an incredible amount of satisfaction to be told I did a good job. This makes the work worth it. I feel the same about my masochism. Pain really hurts, but it's something I can be proud of, having done something hard and prevailed. I also really like the "being broken and remade" and training/conditioning aspects. I think they are very loving and very romantic. And punishments are very helpful for me because once I've been punished I've been forgiven and I have permission to feel better about myself. This is sort of the shape of the kayfabe I want to be part of. Pic related.I think in general it's worth asking how you actually like to spend your time. Then you can design your life so you can spend more time that way. This is a somewhat more extreme version of that, but most people don't have a burning in their loins for housework.I think "spend more time doing what makes you happy" is good advice for anyone, sane people too.
Just find a girl who has terrible decision making paralysis. Typically always late late, possibly hoarding tendencies.It's actually a massive relief for them to have a master do their thinking for them.Before you know it, you have a pet.
>>11525181Acceptable.Ideally they'd be naked from the waist down. (Chastity belts allowed if someone is visiting.)
>>11525181generally, the more degrading, the better.so, yes!
>walk home>get hit by a truck>get isekai'd>look down>see this>¨Hey! Stop spacing out there, Slave 31!¨>what do?
>>11526210I figure I had it coming to me from this life, and am grateful I can even see (for now).
>>11527045That would make for a delicious and ironic* punishment.*the best kind
>>11527056I suppose I should have [spoiler] seen [/spoiler] that coming.
>>11527108>trying to use spoiler tags in hereIt's like you're asking for it. You will complete your training without the benefit of your eyes, never being able to anticipate when you will be touched or struck, in a constant state of apprehension. During office hours, you will keep my dick warm with your mouth and tits, since you will be pretty useless in most other endeavors.
>>11527129If you're isekai'd into the opposite sex, does your brain stay the same? Or does the body start to influence the brain?Not that I'd have a say in the matter in this scenario, but judging by my silly neko slave, long term blindfolding has the effect of bringing out the giggles.
I like the idea of karma hitting Masters like a freight train when they die and get isekai'd. Now, in their next life they have to live as someone's slave and get treated similarly like they once treated their slaves.Though in my case I would be reborn as a dumb fat pet living in comfort, so I guess I can't really complain.
>>11526210>What do?I think well dreams do come true>Very first words out of my mouth in my new isekai lifeYes Master
>>11524890And I guess that's the thing; I might be an (objectively) very bad slave because the things that I actually like I feel is narrow even for people who are into it. I'm not really into the hedonism, I don't feel like a kinkster and when I drove out to the city to go to these kinds of meets everyone was friendly but I never felt like it was "my kind of crowd". When I met people online to do it, I got overloaded sometimes when they would want to see me all the time and I would just shut down and not know what to do. I don't wanna be a downer too much though but that's sort of where I'm at xp.I like the idea of being a domestic servant. Not dressed up fancy or nude. I like the idea of simple burlap or roughspun tunic style clothes. Take care of Master's estate. Sit on the floor at his side silently when he's working or eating. I always eat out of a dish on the floor. If Master feels like masturbating of course I don't wear panties under my clothes and he's free to mount me whenever he likes. But For me the sex is always secondary I wanted to just be near him in a subservient position. It makes me feel happy and secure to be kneeling or curled up on the floor like a human animal. Not in the pet play sorta way, in the companion sort of way. When punishment comes it's because it's justified not cruelty for the sake of cruelty. I'm excited at the prospect of being hit but it has to be for a reason and not just to try and get the thrill. It's not very slave like of me to go "I want you to control my life, oh yeah by the way you need to *blablabla*. I have no doubt that I really enjoy the lifestyle because every time I've tried and got a little bit closer to "the thing I want" it's been immensely rewarding but well yeah.
>>11526210I'm finally where I belong. "I'm very sorry Master". My face will be pressed to the floor as quickly as I can in apology. I will wait until I'm told to sit up and either accept my punishment or continue my duty.
>>11527476That does sound pretty close to where I am about keeping a slave, honestly. I'd even be willing to compromise on the forced nudity and give her some rags to live in since she's already got most of it right. It's not right to just beat a slave whenever you feel like it, she is a toy sure but she's also your beloved companion. Discipline has to be because she did something wrong, outside of that anything more than manhandling is just confusing for her. Sex is also ultimately not the real point either. Sure i'd expect her to suck my cock constantly, but that's just one of her many duties. she's just my lifetime servant and companion, quietly kneeling next to me, taking a few sips of water out of her feeding bowl inbetween just staring up at me in non-verbal awe and worship. >It's not very slave like of me to go "I want you to control my life, oh yeah by the way you need to *blablabla*.I really appreciate when a slave is lucid enough to set limits and try to talk to it's Master instead of listening to that voice in it's head that says "What Master wants is always what i want, forever! i don't deserve to have what i want, i'm just a slave!"Think of it as Master also owns the thoughts in your head, and thus failing to communicate to him is attempting to steal his property. That kind of framing helps quiet down the part of a slaves mind that feels guilty about basically everything.
>>11527476>I might be an (objectively) very bad slave because the things that I actually like I feel is narrowNo, this feeling is pretty normal. You are a person (or nonperson if you prefer) and you are allowed to have preferences. That you have a preference for having your preferences overridden does not mean you are not allowed to have preferences. It also doesn't mean that your master wouldn't want to know them. More than likely your master would want all the information about you they can get, so it can be utilized or weaponized. Successful dynamics are built on mutual enjoyment.I have... pretty much the same preferences as you by the way. It's not even a sexual thing. I just really really like kneeling beside people. And being of service to them. Having clear expectations. Being useful. Feeling appreciated. It makes me feel safe. Loved. Cherished. It's very nice. Sometimes there's only time for one or the other, and I frequently choose this over sex.
>>11527232>If you're isekai'd into the opposite sex, does your brain stay the same? Or does the body start to influence the brainIt does. It will seem embarassing that you develop those urges too.
>>11527476Congratulations, you are slave 476.>>11527682I've given Serdyrrah number 736, for the sake of completeness. I wouldn't doubt if this number is yet another in a long line of other numbering schemes that have been made over the years.I'd prefer something that doesn't rely on my central list, but hey, can't think of anything better that doesn't contain biometrics.
>>11527476>simple burlap or roughspun tunic style clothesI also like this for slaves. It's easy enough to sew on your own, or extend a machine made tanktop to length. also a prime place to put slave numbers, if you're into that. imo that starts to look like a concentration camp uniform when you do that. someone's into that probably.
>>11527808I am not yours to number. This is a major social faux pas. Just because I'm a submissive, or that I'm owned, does not mean I'm your submissive, or that I'm owned by you. If you said this to my face IRL, it would probably turn into a confrontation.And no, I don't typically use numbers. I don't really see the appeal. You're of course free to keep doing whatever though. Just ask first.
>>11525979When I was with my "boyfriend" before we had an agreement we both built together and agreed to. It had rules like what I'm supposed to do when I greet him, what I do when I leave. But it also had the range of things that he was allowed to do and ask of me. He could choose how I dressed and did my hair, where I was allowed to go. Stuff like that. But it had a thing where he's not allowed to force me to do anything that would cause permanent change to my body, nor could he force me to do anything that carried the risk of serious reputational damage. So no wearing a vibrator to work and stuff like that. And it worked pretty well I liked it a lot. The only problem was that like I said he wasn't actually that much into it. He had to force himself to try and put it beside himself for my sake and eventually I just couldn't take doing it to him anymore. There was also some other things that happened that stressed it as well. >>11527808Thanks, I guess? >>11527682Yes I love feeling cherished and appreciated so much, and useful. The kind of love that goes from master to servant is something that has made me feel giddy for a number of years. >>11527839Exactly! It should be cheap and easy enough to make that you can change it out often when needed, comfortable enough and breathable so that I can work in it both indoors and outdoors. Dehumanizing enough that I know I'm not a person or a member of the household - I'm a servant at work. And of course, open in the bottom. My master may want me to wear something underneath but that's up to him of course. I also have always been a fan of steel plated collars. I originally liked the big oval shaped one like uh... Darkmangaka put on his arts, but I've been more and more interested in ones where the plate is contiguous on the collar. Smaller, lighter, more practical, just not as readable. But of course just tell me to stand still and lift up my chin with your fingers so you can read it. I don't mind.
>>11527902Well someone felt so strongly about it that they cracked the password for my cryptpad account and deleted it all. Fuck you, whoever that was.the sheer fucking autism of this board sometimes
>>11524707>>11524628What I wouldn't give for a slave who wanted to be full time. Ah well, life is a struggle.
>>11527257I won't get to see much, but I'll have a kind master and be taken out for massages and hand-feeding. If I have a master instead of a mistress, the sex might be weird, but if >>11527807>It does. It will seem embarassing that you develop those urges too.this happens, it won't be so gay.
any of you read the webcomic called cat girl? its not porn, but this thread reminded me of the themes.
>>11528546Not usually a webcomic type of person but I found some issues of that on a site called webtoons, didn't take long to read, I think the author is redoing the comic or something like that, for sure wasn't complete.Must admit that depressed neet guy looks a lot like me. Been trying to dress a lot better lately but I am hopeful that caricature is something I can look back on one day of how I presented when I was at the bottom. I swear the author must have some experience with soul crushing neet life, this character doesn't just look a lot like me, although what lessons he has tried to take from his experiences have doomed him to failure.Blaming women as if they're reason he's like that, if he's fully internalized the idea that he can never be attractive to one then that explains buying these "companions". If I lived in that kind of dystopia that had cat girls for purchase just existing on top of our contemporary dystopia I feel like it'd be admitting defeat, like a soft form of suicide where you know you need this kind of relationship to complete you, but have arrived at the conclusion that there's a 0% chance of a woman being able to tolerate you. They've got the self loathing part down, but I don't think I'll ever be able to identify with how this character thinks women are the actual problem. But I guess he brings his new neko creature home and he is too nervous to communicate with her properly, or somehow believes he isn't powerful enough to work with her on the things he wants. Just complains to his discord chat about how his girl has too much weight, instead of talking to her and trying to set up body training. Is rightfully nervous about how this looks to the outside world, touching grass is terrifying to begin with, but doesn't even think about how she is absolutely terrified of being left alone for the first time in weeks since they never leave the house.
>>11528696It seems like he expects the fact he got a relationship with a woman who is submissive to him to just magically fix him, and to read his mind and do everything for him with no leadership necessary on his part. It's like he's only superficially dominant, if anything he's expecting the cat girl to be the true driving force behind the relationship. I imagine this is the point the author is trying to make even outside of Master/slave relationships, women being expected to instantly fix these isolated weirdos, this is probably 100% in the internet shut in cultural space rather than any BDSM though. Honestly I might try to track down the full original or wait for the updates or something. Been in a much worse mental state than usual and weirdly seeing that webcomic makes me want to keep fighting a lot more. I have a feeling he chose that chunkier girl not because he's really into the idea of transforming a slaves body and building a stronger bond through the fact that her body has been improved by Master's touch just as much as her mind, but instead that he thought she'd have lower standards or something. That's going to absolutely crush that poor neko girls soul if he tells her, I can see that plot beat coming from a mile away.
>>11527933I can see how your "boyfriend" left behind a wound that might never fully heal. It sounds like he did try his best. I can only hope that those "other things" haven't stopped you from having some form of contact with him, that guilt might be truly hard to deal with if he doesn't want to talk to you anymore. If I had a slave like you, even years into service I wouldn't blame her for still being messed up about a man she tried to serve a long time ago. she might feel weird talking about it when she's just a thing and meant to serve, not really a person, but it's just good practice to take care of your things and make sure her ability to serve isn't compromised by all the problems bouncing around in her head. >not allowed to force me to do anything that would cause permanent change to my body>risk of serious reputational damageThat's the line I would draw too. Permanent body modification, actual public humiliation like that, for sure too much, even if a slave wanted those things to happen to her she would need to be very convincing in order for me to give that order. Having to ask permission to go out or do anything, alongside submitting her clothes, hair, and makeup for inspection? Absolutely what I expect from a slave. It's a bit like serving as a living doll, I love to put a lot of attention into making my slave look and act perfect.>But of course just tell me to stand still and lift up my chin with your fingers so you can read it. I don't mind.Domestic toil can get quite dirty, especially outdoors. A plate like that has basic contact info and tells people who you're owned by, so its important that it remains clean. Coming to inspect my slaves work while her rags are covered in mud is important, especially inspecting her to make sure she can still be returned if she happens to get lost. If its unreadable, then I'm personally grabbing a fistful of her hair and marching her over to the hose to make sure it is readable, before returning her to work.
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>>11527839I've always been fond of the idea of burlap sacks for slaves that work outdoors. It's somehow more dehumanizing than total nudity. >>11527933>Exactly! It should be cheap and easy enough to make that you can change it out often when needed, comfortable enough and breathable so that I can work in it both indoors and outdoors. Dehumanizing enough that I know I'm not a person or a member of the household - I'm a servant at work. And of course, open in the bottom. My master may want me to wear something underneath but that's up to him of course. This is exactly why, it's like a reminder that I'm not really a person, just a thing that accomplishes tasks.
>>11510079Any good reading on slave-training methods/psychology? Something that takes a systematic or even scientific approach to breaking and remaking minds would be nice to read.
>whenever I'm having a bad day I like to go down to bully the slaves locked up in the stocks in the town square>there's so many ways to just make them miserable when you're also making use of your personal slave, it's great>scold them for being failures to who they serve, then manhandle my slave down to be face to face with them, "you'll end up just like her if you disobey me">tease them about how it's such a hot summer day while drinking out of a cold water bottle, perhaps if they begged pathetically they would earn a little sip of it, but have no intention of letting them have any no matter how much they grovel>empty it out on the ground infront of them, tease them while it dries a little bit about how they could ever expect mercy from their betters when they clearly need to be punished since they're locked up here, before calling over my slave to lick whatever she can up off the ground>"Oh if only you could use your limbs to move around and serve your owners, you could be degrading yourself down there just like her. How awful.">being treated with cruelty is part of the punishment, so don't feel too bad about being mean to them>there's usually at least one slave locked up here for a reason, it's a common practice>that creature who loves to follow me around everywhere knows very well what it's like to be in there, she isn't actually some better slave than the thing she was face to face with
>>11527933I'm my neko's first owner, and I'd never done this before, so it's all pretty new.Her executive dysfunction makes her terrible at completing tasks by herself, so she's really best as a pet. The more control I have over her autonomy, the happier she is.No thoughts- just a helpless kitty.
>>11530464NTA but if anything prospective slaves being visibly a bit messed up is a green flag. If I visit one in her home and it's depression nesting pretty hard that would make me like her more, she very clearly needs someone to be the light shining over her world. It would help us be on similar wavelengths, having a slave to train and take care of is similarly motivating for my life.
Beach season?Beach season.Except my pet doesn't have a clue how to swim... Guess I'll have to teach her, otherwise she just sinks down to the bottom like a rock. A big, dumb, heavy rock.
>>11530918The first time I took my weird little neko to the beach I learned she was actually terrified of the water. I mean I guess cats don't like getting wet but being a weird demihuman is just supposed to be a act for her. Supposed to be, it doesn't matter how much you punish her she will just want to kneel by the shore with sheer terror in her eyes hoping Master gets out of the water okay. If you throw her in she's just going to try to scamper out.That might explain why I have to force her to shower sometimes actually.
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>have a slave that loves to do "soulbinding rituals", usually this just means her sneaking out at night when she should be getting rest for her duties to torture herself because of the lunar cycles or something>lately I've been having success in interrogating her for her plans, she keeps them secret since she's afraid I'll say no to how far she wants to go, and I've been a lot more cruel to her because of it>it's the summer solstice, and she wants to be crucified >"it's the longest day of the year Master. i deserve to bake in the sun for Master. You're the light that gives meaning to my entire pitiful existence, and yet i am not the servant that my God so clearly deserves. please let me suffer for You Master, i don't deserve mercy!">hm...>sure! I've got a friend with a rural enough estate and a harem of slaves to pick up your slack while you're being tortured, it's a date>she's excited, but the poor thing has no idea the cross is just the start of a full weekend of torture>she's too much of a dirty animal to be allowed inside where the humans and their servants live, she'll be resting in a tiny cage exposed to the elements, and never even see the indoors>sun up to sun down on the first day is the cross, second day is her being forced to carry heavy stones up and down a hill, but nightfall does not carry mercy, if anything having to give freeform entertainment might end up being worse>she'd probably be even more excited if I told her what I had planned, but you just don't tell slaves anything until the very second they need to know to perform their tasks. It's just another layer of dehumanization>she -is- excited though, I've not punished her that much the past couple weeks since her service has been that good>I wonder if she'll notice that the other slaves are sleeping in shifts to make sure that she has 24 hour monitoring of her health even when the humans are asleep and she's in her cage
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>>11532350Those plates on the collars always get me imagining what each Master would decide to put on them, it could end up being quite personalized. I'd go with something like "slave 622, property of Master Anon, return to owner if found". Pretty unimaginative but it would help remind a slave that her freedom will always be a distant memory, and her loss of it is nothing special. I'm sure people would put all sorts of humiliating stuff on there though, especially on lower status slaves.Can just imagine trying to give simple and concise orders to some public slave who wasn't lucky enough to serve someone personally while she nervously avoids eye contact with "WILL CRY IF YOU GLARE AT HER" printed in stark bold on her plate.