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Classic World Building Questions:
>1) What setting would you choose for your scenario? Modern? Fantasy? Sci-fi? Based in reality?
>2) What's the main supply of slaves?
>3) In case of mass enslavement, how are new slaves kept and trained to ensure they won't rebel or disrupt the society?

Questions for Masters/Mistresses:
>1) How do you want your slave(s) to view you/feel about you?
>2) Would you consider training new slaves in groups or pairs?
>3) Would you train slaves with a history before enslavement, like friends, lovers, enemies, etc?
>4) What general feelings would you want your slaves to have towards each other? Competition? Jealously? Hierarchical obedience? Affection? Partnership?

Questions for slaves:
>1) How would you get adjusted to a new Master, or your life as a slave?
>2) Would your Master assign the duty of training you to another trusted slave, training you himself, or train you with another slave?
>3) If trained in a group or as a pair, who is the other slave? Your friend, your enemy, your lover, etc.
>4) What training will you be put through?

Questions for Switches:
>1) Are your Master and slave fantasies always separate, or do you like to imagine role reversals?
>2) Are there differences in how you would treat your slave(s) vs. how you imagine being treated as a slave?

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Archive links:
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https://archived.moe/d/search/subject/Slavery/
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>>11552805
I kinda like the idea of slave shops with fixed prices more than auctions. It gives less sense of importance to the slave, and she doesn't know how much you wanted her, as a bidding war would reveal.
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>>11552843
Artist scource?
4chan's built in Image search options don't show anything...

>fixed prices more than auctions. It gives less sense of importance to the slave
Still kind of like the idea that slavery creates people who value themselves purely off their price.
Regardless if its "no bargaining" or bidding prices, just the whole concept that one's entire worth is set to a single number is so dehumanzing.
it's perfect!
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>>11552897
>Artist scource?
>https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=ado9nis

>slavery creates people who value themselves purely off their price.
That's the thing: a slave might get the wrong idea that she is more important if she sees her new master bid a lot for her. While fixed prices inside a slave shop, she knows she is a product with a shelf life.
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>>11552843
I see your arguement, but the action vibe can't be beat. The dehumanizing horror a slave feels in her very last moments of freedom, looking out helplessly at the sea of degenerates all shouting out prices like she's a piece of meat, the horrifying finality of "SOLD!"
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>>11552929
I think it's more dehumanizing to have to wait for weeks in some cramped cell, watching potential buyers pass by, thinking she is not good enough even as livestock. Fearing that if she is not bought soon enough, the shopkeeper will just sell her to a cheap brothel or worse.
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What about the slave market stroll set

I too prefer normal slave shops over auctions
People shouldn't be fighting with each other over slaves
and it's too uplifting for slaves if they are getting fought over monetarily
Also slave auction settings tend to be nicer towards slaves, I think. Nicer towards slaves and it tends to mean buying slaves is something more for elites or something.
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Cheap slave
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>>11553003
>buy for 25k
>immediately try to flip for 200k
They deserve to lose that 15k
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>>11552970
>not good enough even as livestock
Any slave with two working legs and an ass to whip can pull a cart around.

For the other pony enthusiasts here, do you imagine a medieval/post-apocalyptic world where they're actually useful, or a modern/future world where they're toys for rich perverts?
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>>11553015
I like a future world where they're economically viable for stupid reasons, because slavegirls are cheap.
Like city centers ban "motorized and animal-drawn vehicles," so the obvious loophole is using women pulling carts for deliveries. People love this and it becomes tradition despite being technically inefficient.
Making slavegirls do grueling work is a lot sexier when it's completely unnecessary imo.

BTW, something I've never seen in scifi settings is enslaving a whole species, and turning their world into a pleasure resort+slave breeding factory. Like your galactic empire owns a planet full of Twi'lek girls, but you only enslave wookies to... be miners with pickaxes, as if that makes any sense when you have fucking robots. You'd have to be retarded or a homosexual furry to make that your slavery policy.
Make me the governor of the right primitive planet and I'd have it exporting premium alien pussy all over the galaxy.
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Maybe some really high grade slaves get auctions, but the vast majority of slaves are just livestock. It's only right they're bought from a aisle.

Remember that slaves don't understand money, they have no idea what its like to buy things because they're the things being bought, so if you want to scold one when she's being especially difficult you need to relate her price to what she can understand. Most slaves are worth many years of bare minimum gruel rations, but if you have a personal slave that you try to make as pleasurable as possible then all the human hygiene and makeup you buy her makes her far more expensive to maintain. Mine was a bargain bin bitch to begin with, so I tell her that I bought her for 10 months worth of her current rations, and a beast like her could always be consigned to the mines if she isn't grateful. It helps their tiny minds understand just how much they really mean to the world, and how lucky they are to have a Master at all.
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>>11552897

Allow me to paint a scene for you. You are strolling through a mall in a large city, and as you do you see a store that instead of the glass displays out front and a large sign that advertises the shop and it's product, the windows are blacked out and along the top a sign says "Servant Mart". You enter the store out of curiosity, and the shop owner buzzes you in after briefly checking that you're an adult male. On each wall as well as a row down the middle of the shop floor, are 3 high stacks of cages. Most are occupied, and all are women roughly around the age of 20. Many look up when they hear the buzzer and the unmistakable sound of the front door opening. They look you up and down, and make a judgement call. Some crawl over to the metal grating and watch you, pressing their chests against the bars. Others sit still and don't move. Evidently, some like your look better than some who have walked in the store before. They're willing to take their chances and hope that you're a more benevolent master than one that may come later and pick her out. Many have marks on their knuckles and on the top of their fingers, evidently from being told to stick their hand out the metal grates of their enclosures and whipped if they made a peep when a customer was in the store. You roam around, idly browsing the merchandise on display. Digital signs sit along the bottom of every cage listing not just the price of the individual, but her height, weight, allergies, general state of health, ethnicity, and any medical history that is relevant to the purchase decision. Like browsing a dealership for a new car, you carefully begin perusing the displays. It becomes obvious to you that the less desirable women are in the bottom cages, not an advantageous position to be sold quickly. Higher quality women are at chest height, though they come with a hefty price increase compared to the bargain bin floor girls.

Perhaps you can get a good deal.
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Would you buy a cheap, problematic slave?
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>>11553015
I prefer medieval/fantasy settings myself, but I wish there was a bit more variety than “goblins abduct human women to use as war mounts” for the umpteenth time. Personally, I think there’s a lot of potential in faeries (the old-school trickster kind, not the Disney sort) being the ones training ponygirls. They’re tricksters and nature-lovers, so they’d probably get a kick out of “punishing” uppity humans by forcing them to act as animals. Like a haughty noblewoman who demands the secret to eternal life from the faerie court, only to be tricked into agreeing to become a ponygirl. Or a ladyknight who disturbs a faerie ring while traveling through the forest, and is punished by having her armor transmogrified into pony tack.
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>>11553371
Always buy orcs from licensed slavers, so you know she is actually broken enough to handle.
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>>11553379
Yeah and it's actually an American Bully so it's totally not going to rip your face off
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>>11553511
Worth the risk.
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>>11553331
No, I'd invest in a cuddly, well behaved chubby one, who's just happy that someone finally saved her from that hell hole of a market. Even if she was listed as a well trained, docile A+ slave and was treated better than the usual work slaves. No whipping, better food, and so on.
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World Building Questions:
>1) What setting would you choose for your scenario? Modern? Fantasy? Sci-fi? Based in reality?
Modern with some slight sci-fi elements. A scenario where slavery becomes legal again for some insane reason.

>2) What's the main supply of slaves?
Mostly debt or as an alternative to prison for criminals. There are some people who just take advantage of the system to abduct people they want to own and the law turns a blind eye to it.

>3) In case of mass enslavement, how are new slaves kept and trained to ensure they won't rebel or disrupt the society?
Subsidised slave ownership for those who prove themselves effective at training slaves as well as training facilities mostly run by sadistic rich fucks.

Questions for slaves:
>1) How would you get adjusted to a new Master, or your life as a slave?
Probably defiant at first but that would get corrected quite quickly.

>2) Would your Master assign the duty of training you to another trusted slave, training you himself, or train you with another slave?
Training me themselves but regularly giving me to a friend when they're away and vice versa, taking in their slaves for a short time.

>3) If trained in a group or as a pair, who is the other slave? Your friend, your enemy, your lover, etc.
Enemy would be pretty hot but mostly just complete strangers. Being forced to do lewd things with someone you don't know is so hot.

>4) What training will you be put through?
I imagine there are tiers of slavery in my setting where slaves have certain rights depending on their circumstances, maybe amount of debt or severity of crime. I'd find myself in the lowest tier for whatever reason which means that nothing is off-limits and the only condition is that I am not killed. My owner is extremely cruel and they subject me to their sadistic tortures, telling me they're going to make me into the perfect fuck doll.
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>>11553331
Maybe, on a case-by-case basis. Price doesn't necessarily mean much, and problematic doesn't necessarily mean bad. People don't work like that. Describe this slave.
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>>11553825
> 10/10 body Elf (almost immortal)
> Pretty rebellious and aggressive.
> Doesn't fear death (claims)
> Multiple escape attempts, some with attempted murders
> Not very strong.
> Sometimes follows orders, but she is likely planning something.
> Pain no longer affects her. (previous masters have never gone too far with her, though).
> Isolation and heavy restraints seem to affect her, but temporarily.
> She either resists hard during sex or she does nothing, leaving you to do everything.
> She has been sold multiple times.
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>>11553849
You're fucking joking, right? That's perfect.
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>>11553851
Slaves who keep resisting are the best. Lovestruck slaves and mega sluts are so overrated.
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>>11553872
Damn right. The glare, the seethe, grit teeth and clenched fists, struggling against her binds and pulling against the leash, insults and banter and promises of revenge, all totally impotent. This is what gives me life. I love picturing the play of emotions on her face when she's given some humiliating task.
>This bastard...! No, I won't do it, I can't submit to him!!
>...but...if I don't, he'll do something horrible to me...something even worse than this...
>And he'll just keep doing until I give in...and I'll end up doing it anyway...
>...dammit...
>Dammit, dammit, DAMMIT, this bastard...!!
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>>11553891
Quietly resigned and resentful but complying are also pretty good.
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>>11553900
Part of the play is teasing out that defiance when she gets compliant. She carries out your orders with an impassive face, but her fists are clenched and trembling, her lip tellingly tensed, that look in her eyes. She hates this. She hates you. And you know it, and she knows you know it.
So draw it out. Touch her, grope her, stroke her face. Taunt her as she tries to play the part she loathes.
>Awww, look at my obedient little slut, such a cutie.
>Can you believe some people used to call you a hero? What a joke, right?
>As if a proud, noble lady-knight would ever behave like this! We both know what you really are, right?
>Ooooh? Is someone getting a wittle fwustwated? Doesn't feel like doing what she's for? Does someone want to spend the night in my bed? Or maybe in the dungeon?
Then keep going until she bursts, or until she makes some slip you decide counts as a burst, laugh in her face, and give her a slap on the ass as you walk off, reminding her to get her humiliating work done or else.

When she's defiant, make her compliant. When she's compliant, make her defiant. Never let her settle. That's how you play with a willful slave.
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>>11552911
>she is more important if she sees her new master bid a lot for her.
Actually kind of like the idea of a slave's price affecting their behavior but more so as a motivator.
Courtesans, male studs, slaves with skills/education, etc. slaves who's masters invested into training them before sale.
They're all too aware of how shit life can be for labor slaves, so they'll try their best to meet the buyers expectations.

>>11553270
>"Servant Mart"
>height, weight, allergies, general state of health, ethnicity, and any medical history
I'd like to add "born a slave" as a qualifier that adds to a slave's price.
Think men and women born from domestic slaves, the type that'd you'd trust with admin work or would justify having them educated.
Or when you simply want a slave with total loyalty.
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>>11553891
Ring gags are great for this
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>>11554019
They're hot, but I don't see how.
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>>11552805
Though it's pretty niche and probably contrary to most people's preferences here, I like a setting focused around happy and enthusiastic slaves. Something like slavery growing to become a common early career choice, where you sign up for however many months or years, all expenses paid, then get a decent pay packet at the end of it. Of course it's a legal requirement for you to serve the full term, you have reduced human rights for the duration, and everyone wears the traditional uniform of nothing but as much heavy metal bondage as you can get away with while still being able to do your job, but despite all that it remains a wildly popular career.
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>>11552805
>What setting would you choose for your scenario? Modern? Fantasy? Sci-fi? Based in reality?

Near-future, post imperialist uprising that takes over society and destroys the established liberal order.

>What's the main supply of slaves?

Criminals, political enemies of the state, non-state citizens captured during war.

>In case of mass enslavement, how are new slaves kept and trained to ensure they won't rebel or disrupt the society?

Slaves are kept in groups that don't share a common language to prevent organised resistance. Escape is impossible due to tracking chip implants and/or tattoos. Laws determine punishments for slave disobedience, with the most extreme allowing a master to torture/body modify a slave if they continue to resist.

>How do you want your slave(s) to view you/feel about you?

Some passively, like a spouse, others with fear, especially if they had a life of crime before enslavement. I'd love one absolute bottom of the pecking order slave, a kind of free abuse one that even other slaves are allowed to use as they want.

>Would you consider training new slaves in groups or pairs?

Yes. Especially of it was with the threat of the worse performing slave becoming the bottom of the pile slave.

>Would you train slaves with a history before enslavement, like friends, lovers, enemies, etc?

No. I need slaves that are a blank slate. Something I can mould into what I want.

>What general feelings would you want your slaves to have towards each other? Competition? Jealously? Hierarchical obedience? Affection? Partnership?

Little if any. Communication is as simple as pointing and gesturing due to the language barrier. They all treat the bottom of the pile slave as their punching/fucking bag to let out their frustration though.
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>>11554174
>Communication is as simple as pointing and gesturing due to the language barrier.
Gag-speak can be a tricky language to learn.
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Man I love brothel slavery. Girls being raped and beaten for hours a day by man after man after man, forced to stand at attention like an obedient little puppet no matter how sore or aching they are lest something even worse is done to them. Every ounce of pride, dignity, self-worth and resistance ruthlessly stomped out of them till they're quiet, obedient little fucktoys.
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>>11554348
Good shit; they are not even a prized possession for their master in his harem, just a commercial asset with a time limit. Because they are slaves, they cannot even save money for their future; they just wait for the day the master gets rid of them one way or another.
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>>11554348
Stuff like this is why slavery content is better with actual characters. Marcille would just languish in slavery. Wouldn't be able to handle it at all.
Also, text. Pretty good.


数か月前、ダンジョンの下層で単独行動をしていた時、私は人攫いに捕まり、すぐに娼館へと売られた。
装備はすべて奪われ、代わりに卑猥なドレスと猿轡、手指を封じる拘束手袋、首輪の着用を強いられた。
耳につけられたタグには特殊な文字が刻まれていて、一切の魔力も封じられている。

性奴隷としての生活は過酷をきわめた。
早朝から深夜まで様々な種族の客が次々と訪れ、私は毎日何十もの性器に奉仕し、そして受け入れた。
そして反抗する気力を削ぐために、客が帰った後も深夜以外は体を休めることは許されなかった。

この日も、私の体に覆いかぶさって時間いっぱい腰を振っていた客を見送った直後、私は傷だらけで
痛む体を無理やり動かして、ベッド横に直立し、規則で決められた待機の姿勢をとった。
すぐに世話役がやってきて、私の首輪にリードをつけ、フェラチオとキスのために一時的に外されていた
猿轡を再び装着した。
性感開発のためのローターを下着の中に押し込んで、世話役は部屋を後にする
部屋に一人になっても、待機姿勢を崩すことは出来ない。格子窓の外に見張りの使い魔が居て、
私の行動を全て見ているからだ。
少しでも反抗的な態度を見せれば、また何発も殴られ、酷い時は睡眠や食事まで没収される。
もう私には、仲間たちと冒険していたころの勇気は残っていなかった。
今はただ、お仕置きされたくない、痛いのは嫌、それだけだった。
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I love this face.
>P-please let me go...
So cute.

>>11554374
独りになった部屋で、私は全身に力をこめ、なるべくふらつかないように正面の壁を見つめ続ける。
髪や股間から、これまでの客が出していった精液がどろどろと垂れてくる。
口の中にも、精液の残滓や、様々な客の性器の味が強く残っている。
この不快感には、いつまで経っても慣れることができない。

・・・いつも窓の外が暗くなってくる頃には、涙があふれて止まらなくなってしまう。
考えないようにしているのに、どうしてもみんなと過ごした日々の記憶が思い起こされる。
泣くことは許可されていないので、次に世話役が来た時にまた何発も殴られるだろう。
痛いのも苦しいのも嫌だから、もうここから出ることなんかできないんだから
早くみんなの事なんか忘れてしまいたい。
どんどん暗くなっていく部屋の中で、私はそんなことを考えながら、目の前の壁を見つめ続ける。
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I like to put elves in my settings as only pleasure slaves in harems, or in rich people's estates as status symbols. Not because they are difficult to acquire, but because their mental fortitude often just breaks with harsher roles like prostitutes or breeding sows, leading to their premature deaths. Also, despite slavery being accepted as an institution in most kingdoms, some races get better treatment and rights because they are seen as civilized, like elves and humans, who can be granted freedom by their masters or work for their release. While historically savage races like orcs get treated no better than livestock.
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>>11554376
Anyone have accurate translation?
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>>11552897
I like the idea of building a slave harem and all the girls establish a vicious internal pecking order primarily based on how much I paid for them at auction.
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>>11554166
These are the kinds of settings I like as well happy voluntary slavery is the best. I always go with during training they wear the traditional metal collars and thin light brown micro dress. Once sold they are free to wear what they want as long at it meets one or all conditions of skimpy, tight & reveling

In your setting how does training work? Do they just sign up and get on the job training or shipped off to a slave school before being sent to market?
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>>11554953
>In your setting how does training work?
I generally think of it as the parent company hiring out their slaves as the equivalent of cheap day labourers. Simple physical work that wouldn't take more than 10-15 minutes to train up on the site, with plenty of focus on helping out in things like construction, gardening, cleaning the streets and maintenance of civil infrastructure. Basically the kind of work that just so happens to have them being chain-ganged up outside and in public.

Of course at the end of the day it's a fetishistic fantasy, so it can change as and when it needs to.
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>have a ritual where I write on my slave every morning
>it's just the number I assigned her when she was first enslaved, before she even earned a name, put just above her ass
>maybe she'll earn a actual branding one day, but for now holding her down and doing this to her every day helps put her head in the right space for a full day of service
>the neurotic little beast does need a lot of help in that department
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>>11552805
>be dumb horny kid
>getting some groceries and supplies from the market with mom
>turn a corner and get a quick glimpse of pic related
>mom grabs my hand and we turn around to go the long way
>mutters something about how that should be kept indoors
>go home and grab my entire allowance and birthday money
>tell mom I'm going out to play with friends
>run back to that spot as fast as I can
>offer it all in exchange for groping a titty or two
>slowly approach the least intimidating one there and raise my shaking hand
>bestfeelingintheworld.png
>"that's funny, that one normally can't stand being touched"
>if I work hard, one day I might be able to have this for real...
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>1) What setting would you choose for your scenario? Modern? Fantasy? Sci-fi? Based in reality?
Low fantasy with fantasy races but very limited magic. Warring human kingdoms mostly dominate the world, while most non-human races are in total decline. The savage orc armies were subjugated and enslaved long ago, and the survivors stay deep in the forest or wastelands nobody claims. Elves helped humans to put down the orc menace, but while doing so they severed the connection the planet had with magic, which ended with them being accused of treason and facing the same type of persecution, but generally depowered, they fell fast alongside their cities.
>2) What's the main supply of slaves?
A good chunk of them are human criminals, debtors, or PoW from the many wars. But the most common are orcs and goblins, either captured while trying to raid something, captured by slave catchers, or born from a breeding farm (they are too dull and weak compared to their captured counterparts, so they are generally cheaper). Elves are a dying race and are uncommon to see free outside the cities; the ones sold as slaves are products of long lines of selective breeding controlled by rich factions and nobles.
>3) In case of mass enslavement, how are new slaves kept and trained to ensure they won't rebel or disrupt the society?
Humans have more rights than the rest of the races even in enslavement. They can be granted freedom or work for it; they cannot be executed without reason and government approval, and it is frowned upon to torture them severely. Elves have no rights but are culturally protected due to their rarity and beauty (it's like trashing a sports car). Orcs and goblins are less than cattle; their numbers are kept under control by how quickly they die, either as cannon fodder in wars or in backbreaking work in mines; their females don't fare better, as they are cheap sex slaves even lower classes can afford.
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>>11555461
Fire Emblem slaves are the fucking best.
>slowly approach the least intimidating one there and raise my shaking hand
I wonder who that is? Not Edelgard, obviously. Must be some exceptional titty for kiddo to brush off the princess raging in defense of her friend or very-special-friend.
>offer it all in exchange for groping a titty or two
>"that's funny, that one normally can't stand being touched"
The look on the slave marketer's face at this must be priceless.
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>https://exhentai.org/g/4100450/7213675c52/
This doujin was gold.
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>>11555461
>be strong young man
>well off household and upbringing allows me to grow and receive a proper education
>enter the commerce guild
>employer tasks me in the "procurement of goods"
>sent to far off lands with gold, manufactured goods, and arms if needed
>broker deals with foreign kings and chiefs for female PoWs, unwanted daughters, and criminals
>feel slight sense of guilt as I exchange what a normal man sees in his lifetime in gold for a dozen girls
>chieftain laughs at my hesitation, says he'll give me an unwanted daughter for myself for the trouble
>suddenly the business isnt so bad once I have a dependant slave wife in my cabin to distract me from the sobbing below deck
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>>11556466
"wife" feels a bit too dignified for a slave but it is nice to have a really personal relationship with one.

If you're having a especially bad night chances are that your personal slave is sleeping on the floor directly next to your bed. Can just wake her up with a kick to provide comfort and entertainment for a little while.
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>>11556475
A comfort woman is a better term i suppose. A man of my standing should take a well off woman as a wife. The slave will remain, as a maid and bedroom attendant. But until I can find a wife, she will warm my bed, cook my meals, and entertain when commanded. Luckily as a chieftain's daughter, she was trained in song and dance, her hips alluring as she does what she can to arouse me and secure herself a gentle night of sex.
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>>11555994
>Fire Emblem slaves are the fucking best.
Damn right they are. Dorothea would probably be the lucky pick because she'd most resemble the girl's he's used to. Babysitters, older sisters of friends, tutors, etc. Then again. just look at the size of Byleth
>Must be some exceptional titty for kiddo to brush off the princess raging in defense of her friend or very-special-friend.
I was thinking the idea was something like they let their guard down a bit since there's no actual danger. Like all day long burly men have been oogling them and the saleswoman has been spanking them to draw attention.

A nervous 10-year old who just wants to know what boobs feel like? That's like best case scenario when somebody comes up and offers money, it doesn't trigger the fight or flight instinct. Hey, maybe Dorothea would even find it a little cute.
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>>11556502
They're naked, bound and gagged, hanging upside down with a dildo in their pussy, being sold as slaves. I don't think it's even possible for them not to be in fight-or-flight mode constantly. Normally an innocent little boy might be cute, but now? They'd either try and get him to get help or be enraged at the slavers even more. You expose children to such barbarity!? Let them participate in your sick games!?
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>>11554468
>human slaves
Well rounded slave rolls, but can break when put under physical exertion
>elf slaves
Must be kept well fed and cared for, otherwise breaks in even moderately stressful service rolls
>orc slaves
Too brutish for home use, almost all used in field work or brothels with looser rules
>fairy slaves
Too delicate for sexual service or physical labor, kept as high end pets
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>>11554348
Even better when used as a criminal sentence. The threat of 5 years mandatory brothel service terrifies women. Many scream, begging for the gallows, as their clothes are ripped off and they're dragged away to market for brothel owners to bid on. If a girl is lucky, she spends most her of her day with nervous virgins or as a nude waitress. But brothels in the sketchy part of town might as well be a death sentence. Soldiers, sailors, and criminals want a woman to abuse with impunity, her ability to lodge legal complaints for physical and sexual violence is nearly nonexistent. The most punishment a man may see is being fined for vandalism or destruction of property...
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>>11556553
>They'd either try and get him to get help
One moment you're an impressive mercenary or opera house star, the next you're begging an actual little boy to save you. But yeah probably not super in-character for the Three House girls, that pic inspired me to write that greentext but in my head I was just thinking generic slavegirls rather than specific characters.

Point is I really dig the contrast of innocent & curious twerps, and the hardcore bondage and sexual objectification of slaves. Lolis and shotas being said slaves is also just as good, but that's a different topic.
Anyways, here's a sequel
>be loli with a crush on cute boy
>overhear him bragging to his friends about touching breasts
>ugh boys are so dumb and gross
>notice he seems to be describing the new slave your parents bought a few days ago
>go home and ask her about it, yep it all checks out
>his first romantic act was with her, not you
>hussy slave, start bullying her nipples
>oh shit get a great idea
>next day
>"you know, uh, you can play with my slave some more if you want..."
>"but you have to go on a date with me at the harvest festival tomorrow!"
>he gulps and agrees (yesss)
>ungag slave and ask her everything there is to know about boys, the saleswoman mentioned she's trained to satisfy them
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>>11557032
Slaves serving as sexual mentors for cute girls is hot. Telling her all about how boys work, what they like to see, what they like to do. Maybe if that cute girl wants to impress him, she could get a collar to wear and ask the boy if he wants to play house...
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>>11553015
Well in the modern world they just aren't useful sadly, but I do like to picture ponygirl racing as an official competitive sport.
Ponyboy racing is fine to, just not my thing.
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>>11556490
The word you guys are looking for is "concubine."
Or "pet," if you don't want her to be that dignified.
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>>11553015
>toys for rich perverts?
>>11553070
>completely unnecessary imo.
>>11557347
>just aren't useful sadly,

Uncultured fools.

Ponygirl-drawn chariots are a cheap and environmentally-friendly means of transportation!

Ponygirl Uber. 5 stars.
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>>11557358
I like concubine. She could serve as an advertisement for the marketplace i work for. A branding of my employers crest on her soft supple ass, a backless tunic making sure its always exposed. Her beauty and open devotion towards me demonstrates the quality of girls we sell. No missing teeth, disease marks, deformities, or bland bodies. Her docile personality is from careful selection rather than physical abuse, a high quality piece of merchandise.
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Quick reminder to watch fencer of Minerva if you haven't already.
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What would an auction of magical girl slaves look like?
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>>11558267
Like pulling a rabbit out of a hat.
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>>11558267
A bunch of colorful and bizarre magical girl enemies bidding for her.
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How do you feel about lipstick marks?
On the one hand, for female slaves, they can be seen as "rankings" for their skill/dedication/passion for their duty and they can be used to discipline them if their arguing with each other by making them put "proofs of love" in one another.
On the other hand for male slaves they can be seen as "mark of ownership" from their masters.
So, which fits more: Femsub, or Malesub?
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Fantasy medieval setting. "Slaves" aren't really looked down on in this world, they're more looked like if you owned a sports car, or very expensive watch. There are no labor slaves, or old slaves, only sex slaves. No one's offspring is immune from this, no matter how much money they have, or power. It's actually an honor to get chosen. Slaves are chosen for sex only, so only the most attractive are chosen. And slaves are chosen to fit any sort of kink someone has. They need all sorts of different slaves for different tastes, but all of them are extremely attractive. Slaves are chosen via their peers and many blind votes over many years, so if you're good looking, chances are you'll stack up a lot of votes and be chosen.

In this society my ideal role would be a eunuch slave in a harem of a mix of eunuchs, women, and intact men. I would be so excited to be chosen, and to be an exotic eunuch is even better and more prized. Only the cutest boys are chosen for this role. Because of the complexity of making a proper slutty eunuch they're S tier price. So they only end up in the most luxurious of estates. Most masters treat their slaves well, but some do not.

I would've been trained at a young age as a pair on how to be a proper eunuch, the art of love making, etiquette training, high education, nutrition, aesthetics, and anything else a potential master would require me to know. We're as a pair so we always have a practice partner. It will be sad when we're finally sold and separated. I doubt someone buy 2 high end eunuchs at once, the price is staggering. Only a king or queen could afford 2 eunuchs in one buy.

My general day would be absolutely full of different beauty routines and exercises. Baths, lotions, ointments, hormones, makeup, nails, anything to make my master happy so when they come home I'm soft, smell good, and ready for whatever I'm needed for. Nothing would please me more than pleasing my master.
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>>11556600

These days the idea of just visiting a slave brothel is really appealing to me. Women are so stupid sometimes that it feels like training a slave to be even marginally useful would be more effort than its worth. It's like boats or airplanes; never buy, just rent. Just sign the contract that makes you liable for damages if you do irreparable harm, pay the owner a few coins, walk into the room and do what you will. Any act, any position, and any resistance can be eliminated by slapping the daylights out of her a few times. Blow your load, clean off your cock with the sanitation station girl's mouth at the end of the hall, and boom, done. No feeding, no waste management, no training, no hassle, no bullshit. Just holes for rent.
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>>11559056
Owning a slave is like owning a sports car, boat, or horse. Very nice if you can afford it, but still a hassle at times. Much better to rent, or have a rich friend who can let you have fun without the trouble of maintenance. Would be even better if they offered long term rentals, keeping a girl for a week like one could rent a beach house. Find one of your tastes, sign the rental agreement, and enjoy her on vacation.
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To the victors go the spoils!
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>>11559253
If it costs you that much to own a slave, you're doing it wrong. The initial cost would be the purchase. After that the slave should easily pay for itself, and then even net you a return on your investment if you can restrain yourself from causing costly injury.
If I was your slave (I know I'm not) but if I was, your house would be tidy every day. Your shopping would be done, your clothes washed, your back rubbed, sex needs filled, your garden would be amazing, and so on. All this would cost you would be the initial investment of buying me, and 1 small meal a day, that I would prepare from leftovers after cooking for you.
But yes, if you lock me in a cage and leave me in there it will get messy and I'll won't be able to provide any use to my master. You can even leave me gagged, so you never have to hear me make a sound.
But I know I'm not your slave.
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>>11556553
I love the idea of forcing slaves to clean in ridiculous and humiliating ways, like cleaning windows with her bare tits, or licking the bathroom floor clean.

What kinds of things would you have your slaves do to make day to day chores more entertaining?
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>>11559056
Might as well call yourself a slave if you need to pay someone else any time you want to get off.
>>11559457
Oh, you're in this thread too, that's good.
Obviously you'd be much more valuable to me than just your purchase price, although I might end up spending more than I expect on gear to put you in.
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>>11559596
If a slave needs more ballet boot training, or I just feel like making her miserable, put her in pic related and make her follow around the slave actually doing the work, with the tray full of cleaning supplies.
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>>11559596
The classic one is to force a slave to spend a entire day cleaning Master's home top to bottom with only a toothbrush, but it's honestly a much better idea just to make her daily domestic toil more degrading and humiliating.

Order her to dogeza infront of the door before entering any room, and apologize to the room for having to be bothered by her annoying hide, followed by another dogeza on the other side of the door when she's done cleaning and is leaving, thanking it for allowing her to honour who she was put on this earth to serve. Bonus points for forcing her to come up with a unique thing to say to every room in your house, and of course she's going to be doing it regardless of if you're around to see it or not.

You could also follow her around when she needs more of a active overseer to keep her "motivated", and spit on the floor every now and then. It is a great honour and a privilege to be allowed to lick it up, so she not only has to ask permission, she has to beg for it. Same with having her face manhandled into the spit, it's a nice thing to do for a slave, something she must thank Master for. Failure to be grateful for how nice a human being is treating her will lead to especially painful motivation.
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>>11559716
What do you think of the idea of an AI overseer to ensure she is following orders at all times?
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>>11559799
I think it's something that's only really worth considering if you don't want to give a slave the amount of personal attention and brainwashing she needs for whatever reason. If anything it'd be a point of pride to train a slave for complete devotion with no computer assistance, sure more modern tools can help get a slave to that point but it'll always feel like a part of your slaves soul is property of that AI instead of fully yours.
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>>11559824
I mean the AI doesn't have to be super smart, I'm talking about something that records everything while you are asleep or out of the house, so she's forced to always comply.

Even better if it doesn't do the punishment itself, just lists her failings for when you return. How does that sound?
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>>11559837
That's not the worst idea. Having some kind of monitoring like that helps anyways. Especially if you aren't going to cage a slave overnight, just because you trust her to sleep on the floor next your bed doesn't mean she won't be tempted to go off and do weird things while you're asleep. Same with her getting into trouble while you're gone, those beasts are in chains for a reason.
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>>11559843
I think some kind of monitor that alerts her when she breaks a rule, but doesn't tell her how badly, what rule it was, or what the punishment will be would be best.

It keeps her constantly guessing about how bad it will be.
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A properly broken slave does not require constant supervision. Cage is fine for sleeping, but if you lock it the slave will not be able to make things ready before you wake up. I would just put in house cams so I could always check in. The slave would never know when you were watching.
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>>11559856
Having a AI flag anything it doesn't like on the camera footage would be about the extent I'd use one. Even having it go off and inform the slave of her disobedience feels like ceding some ownership over to the AI, not to mention it helps her see exactly how the panopticon works. Plus those things just make shit up all the time, manual review of the footage is necessary not only to make sure its AI brain isn't being somehow even dumber than a slaves, but also to decide on what punishment is best for her, which is a pretty personal act a lot of the time.

A slave that is properly brainwashed into complete devotion will tend to not actually be disobedient that much anyways. she'll try her hardest to be perfect, even if the lash is waiting for her when she isn't.
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>>11559884
I think being punished for something a machine hallucinated is about as humiliating as it can get.
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>>11559902
>the AI claims slave #225 was touching herself
>manual review of the footage shows that she was kneeling in a corner that the camera couldn't see too well for a few minutes
>this was during her cleaning duties, could be struggling with a specific spot
>could also be cleaning up the evidence
>interrogation led to a failure to extract a confession, of course
>better safe than sorry, she is sentenced to 20 lashes and 6 hours in the self-reflection box

Honestly I like to be fair and consistent when dealing with slaves, they already do plenty of things worth punishment, but being so completely powerless that misery is inflicted on you just because ChatGPT felt like it that day does really drive home what life as a slave really is.
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Unless it was kept a secret from the slave using LLMs to degrade it, I believe would be counterproductive to the slave/master relationship. The slave would undoubtedly end up trying to please the LLM as opposed to its Master if it felt that would net it better results.
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>>11559938
You would have to keep it a secret from her. Or change the camera positions and software regularly to keep her on her toes.

>>11559929
It would probably be pretty bad for training

But it does bring something to mind, what about some kind of automated training facility for newly captured slaves?
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>>11559799

This is actually made more practical and more effective if you use the AI to notify you of disobedience but she never knows. It's only delivered to your phone or computer with a relevant snippet of video from the "infraction". You review each infraction and see if it's worth dealing with. If it is, you approach her, order her to the floor, and ask her what she was doing not doing xyz or what have you. You can show her the video evidence if you'd like. The implication you want to imprint in her mind is that you are actively watching the cameras and monitoring her movements, even though that would be impractical. Once this is repeated enough times her behaviour would be enforced and less infractions or less serious ones would come up.

Even better, when she knows she breaks a rule and immediately turns towards the camera and gets on her knees and apologizes immediately for the infraction, then continues her duties. You will need to still bring it up and give her the relevant punishment so that she doesn't get the idea that apologizing in the moment will let her escape from punishment. But make the punishment less severe in recognition that she's just a stupid slave girl who makes mistakes, and as long as she is serving with the greatest care she's capable of, that's what matters.
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>>11560004
Would you set your slaves up with fun games like that bell?

What other games would you play with your slaves?
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>regular slave discipline need not be lashes every single time
>they're going to be experiencing punishment a lot, chained beasts are not the most moral creatures, and variety is the spice of life
>ordering it to hold a stress position while scolding it is good for lesser infractions
>if it isn't grateful that it is getting this instead of lashes then that is a infraction worthy of much worse than lashes
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>>11560877
It needs to be escalating punishments, not 0 to 1000 all the time.

Everything from being locked in a cabinet alone for 24 hours without food or water to waterboarding is on the table depending on how bad she is.
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>>11560923
>being locked in a cabinet alone for 24 hours without food or water
The classic self-reflection punishment. I like to fill her feeding bowl up with tap water so that I can dump it on the floor infront of her when I let her out. It's more than enough to humble her to the point where she knows to beg for permission to lap it up, and won't be disobedient for at least a little while.

The best punishments will always be the ones that give her more than enough time to reflect on what she did wrong and why she should be grateful that Master cares enough about her to not just consign her to the mines for this. That's not to say that more painful torture like waterboarding has no use though.

My slave admitted to some truly horrible crimes once. I still think she fully expected to be executed for them. I stuck her in the stocks for two days in the hot sun, as always not telling her how long she's been sentenced for, but I did take her out every few hours. Just to march her inside to endure waterboarding.

Having what you desire the most while lost in your mind out in the stocks be your source of just immense pain is especially potent. I hope she doesn't have to endure that again. It took her body quite some time to fully return to service.
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>>11560941
What do you think about having slaves inflict the punishment upon disobedient slaves, to instill a sense of rivalry in them?
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>>11560945
I primarily like to focus on training a single devoted slave, but even if she had a slave sister it isn't right to have a slave administer punishments. Just holding stuff like a whip is transferring power and humanity to her in some way. Even fetching it for Master, it should only ever be held in her mouth. A slave should understand that she exists in a world completely below human beings.

If you want to instill rivalry there are still other ways. Pick a favoured girl who gets leniency on punishments, stuff like 10 lashes instead of 20, better food rations, maybe even getting a small bit of human food cooked just for her a couple times a week, just being given slack in a lot of different ways as opposed to the total perfection demanded of her sisters. Until she does something bad enough to be punished with torture, of course.

After which the girl who has convinced Master that she is behaving the best can be promoted to favoured girl, and the cycle repeats itself. Brainwashing these things is a pretty solved problem, they will fight each other instead of fighting Master, but the fact they tend to do that anyways is a big reason why I like to instill maximum devotion into a single beast.
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What do you think of petrifying your slave either as punishment or when she reaches the end of her shelf life?
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>>11560966
I like the idea so long as its reversible. Not that the slave needs to know that.

Tell her that I'm sick of her now, that I told her she'd be in service for her entire life, and that she still will be as a formerly living ornament. It'll take a few weeks to find a new girl that'll be a good fit of course, she might even see me trialling a few replacements for her, with the sheer horror that she is still fully aware and just wishing that she tried harder to impress Master.

Of course, whatever magic powerful enough to do that to her should be powerful enough to bring her back to service. A more intense than usual self-reflection punishment I suppose. Teasing her with "you thought you'd get out of a lifetime of servitude that easy?" as the magic does it works would come naturally.
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>>11560968
I guess if they are immortal maybe, but all slaves run out of time eventually if they aren't.

How would you deal with them if not petrifying when they get too old?
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>>11560970
A devoted slave should be in service for her entire natural lifespan. Even in old age, the whip will have the same standards for when she was 20, even if she is serving a completely mortal human Master this probably will end up in her expiring before him, the torture will take its toll eventually.

Petrification while being a immortal does give me a fun idea though. You'd want to petrify a slave the moment its confirmed she has served her last day. she's going to be a fantastic trophy and decoration.

Go down to the slave market to buy a new young slave to extract a lifetime from, show her all the previous generations and tell her that there will be dire consequences for not being as good as them. One of the more messed up things for a slave to see I suppose, how in the world can she resist being brainwashed by her new Master when all of these girls were completely broken by him?
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>>11560974
If she's immortal, would she even have a last day? Or do you mean last day as in say she hits 25 and is expired, so you freeze her then as an immortal statue then move to a new one?
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>>11560976
I meant more she toils until her body is completely spent at like age 60 or something. Honestly it might make more sense to put a upper limit on the age, if only to leave behind a nicer looking trophy. Maybe 40 or 50 or something, I still want to extract multiple decades of service from a slave, there's a limit to how much you can truly play with the mind of such a thing in 7 years or so.

I like the idea of being some powerful wizard who can do this to random slave girls I buy from a slave market, and that I could gift one immortality with that same magic I used to make myself immortal, should she prove herself worthy of being granted a eternity of service. The tower is filled with a lot of frozen trophies of girls who weren't worthy. So the chances of a fresh purchase being the one who finally impresses me aren't great.
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>>11560979
I love the idea of her having to dust and care for the frozen trophies of girls who weren't good enough, constantly in terror she will join them (perhaps inevitably?)
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>>11560981
If she's good enough she will impress me and she won't join them. she has like, 30-40 years to try her best.

When she's cleaning and making sure the trophies look their best it's a great opportunity to tell her about each girl and what part of their service was impressive. That one was especially cute and happy, plastered on that smile no matter what, that other girl could beg in just the most pathetic way imaginable, was able to make sounds that felt like her very soul was being crushed by mine. Poor assmeat there, you get to know her name because of how close she got, she could suck cock the best out of any girl I've ever owned, nothing has ever come close in the past 600 years.

I think it'd be best to just be upfront and tell them this is their fate unless they get the ultimate reward. They're just a slave, it's not like they can leave, and trying to disobey and fight back just results in a lot more torture. If anything I want them to strive to be a perfect slave from day one.
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>>11560990
Even better if you remind her that all the other slaves are still conscious forever.
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>>11560993
Of course. That'd be a big bonus to freezing them at a certain date rather than waiting for some especially bad torture to claim their life, actually.

They would have seen a lot of girls come and go. They're all cheering for her to not be subject to the same fate that they ended up having. One day a girl will impress me enough, and she will have made my trophies look completely clean and perfect every day for years.
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What about turning slaves into living furniture so they remain useful forever?
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>>11561006
A slave who did especially well could be frozen in her best human footstool position. she can serve as a spare footstool for whenever I don't want to use my current slave.

Actually transforming them into furniture like your pic though is less my thing. I think its best for it to be a snapshot of what the slave was like when she was in service. Same with their expressions. A particularly airheaded and happy slave was able to dumb herself down enough to not break her forced smile too bad while the magic was freezing her. The miserable groveller was stricken with absolute terror, just like she usually is. The messed up horny creature that voluntarily surrendered herself to the slave market when she was 18 couldn't stop herself from having a unforced smile, like the weirdo she always was.
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The furniture thing gets me thinking. In a world where slaves were super cheap (and technology existed to make them not die of cramp, etc etc.) what proportion of your furniture would you want made up of slave girls?
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>>11554468
Personally I always imagined that, while it depends they're all pretty easy to turn into sluts for:
>High elves
Closet perverts. Due to their low fertility and high attunment with light and healing magic, they often build this saint-like image about them, which they have bought into, often even pretending to be gods. In truth, while on average less horny than humans, once they get in the mood they get in the mood HARD, they suffer from rare but intense mating seasons and prolonged exposure to the other gender's genitals in close proximity, especially of more sexually active species, can make them go into a heat-like state.
>Dark Elves
Sadomasochists. While they take mental pain as bad as high elves (for the most part), physical pain gets them going. The easiest way to avoid "breaking them" is to frequently break them. Spank the ex-general dark elf that whipped your soldiers that she captured to death hard enough and she'll beg you to shove it in their tight asshole (just make sure they haven't poisoned it, because they specialize in assassination).
>Forest elves
The hippies are the most open about sex. One could say they're the most normal about it among the three main subspecies... if you ignore the fact that pollen makes them horny. Putting them in a healthy and filled flower garden is like bathing them in aphrodisiac.,, and that's only if it's one variety of flower, the more diversity the better.
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>>11560945
>What do you think about having slaves inflict the punishment upon disobedient slaves, to instill a sense of rivalry in them?
I'd actually do that for a different reason- I'd try to either get slaves that have strong emotional bonds to other slaves (buying couples, or family members or stuff like that), or try to instill such bonds upon slaves (think getting a male and a female slave that are very friendly to eachother and letting the male out of his chastity cage for the first time in a year and then sending the couple of them to a lake that I own with the instruction of keeping the lake clean of rubbish). And when it comes to punishing slaves, it's not the slave that fucks up that gets punished, but the slave that slave cares for. Picrel - her younger brother spilled my tea on me. So now he had to tie her up, shove the dildo gag into her mouth, blindfold her, strip her and fuck her, before leaving her for the rest of the punishment.
>>11560962
>If you want to instill rivalry there are still other ways. Pick a favoured girl who gets leniency on punishments
I'd also tie this in. I'd pick a favoured slave, except, their punishments wouldn't be assigned to the slave they actually care for. The rest of the slaves will be lined up. And then the favoured slave will be forced to pick to which couple their loved ones punishment goes to. And they'll them do the punishment.
And, to spice it up, I'll keep giving them subtly difficult tasks, to make them fail more.
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>>11561451
>Younger brother
Would you have siblings play with each other all the time?

I think it would be fun to pair brother and sister together as a couple.
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>>11561286
Everyone thinks they would never be fool enough to eat poison, until the dark elf ex-general poisons her asshole

How many more good men must die before we learn!?
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>>11561750
Just a fool let a drow slave roam around freely, let alone not have an antidote at hand.
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>>11561756
>>11561750
Sounds like the drow need to remain permanently immobilized to keep you safe.
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>>11554468
>but because their mental fortitude often just breaks with harsher roles like prostitutes or breeding sows, leading to their premature deaths.
This is nonsense. Elven minds are built to last tens of thousands of years without the slightest mental degradation. They certainly wouldn't enjoy being enslaved and raped, but they wouldn't just fall apart. At the very, VERY least they don't break any easier than a human.
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>>11561784
Yeah my closest slave has been bound in servitude to me for more than 600 years. Like obviously a elven slave is able to endure more, especially mentally. Chances are this is nowhere near the first time such suffering has been inflicted on them.

If anything its those mayfly servants who live such short and pointless lives that they're terrified by the things a slave has to endure. God they're so annoying sometimes, like it's just a year in the hole, that's basically nothing, and yet you'd think I just sentenced it to a especially painful disposal with how upset those things get.
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>>11561784
Enslavement is not really what breaks them; they know they can outlive their masters or get a longer window of chance to break free. But they are accustomed to way slower lives with little happening; elven courtship ritual can take decades. They are just not ready for a barrage of negative emotions, like being used daily in a cheap brothel or constant physical abuse; their mind locks down way more easily.
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Would you play games with your slaves?
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>>11562130
Ive figured out roughly how long it takes my slave to masturbate to a single orgasm on her designated release days. There's a fun game to play with her when she's done well enough to rewarded with another orgasm, but not enough to not twist it into something cruel.

She'll be told she needs to break her average time but not told how long that is, only that she won't be getting any release for the rest of the month if she fails, and thats ontop of the beating she will earn. There's also the fact she often has to endure some additional factor, maybe she has to recite a devotional prayer to me while touching herself, maybe she has to do it in a semi-public place like a apartment balcony. I will still expect her to do her absolute best.

It's a lot of fun watching her try her absolute hardest to win a race against herself. A lot more entertaining than just forcing two slaves to masturbate and torturing the loser.
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>>11562136
How would you punish her if she orgasmed too fast? Or pretended she didn't?
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>>11562140
One of the reasons why I don't tell her what time she actually needs to beat is so that it's truly up to me if she did well enough. It's a game, its supposed to be fun, fun for the people involved, not fun for the entertainment.

That's just no fun if its over immediately. Luckily she somehow hasn't been so overwhelmingly horny that she pulls a stunt like that, but if she does? At a bare minimum two months of denial. Hell if she's especially infuriating I'll just tell her she's lost all orgasm privileges for now, and I'll decide later if its permanent or not.

That and y'know, what a beating for failure instead of a more controlled set of lashes usually looks like. Manhandling and scolding mixed in with slaps, punches, and kicks. It ends when I think she's learned her lesson, however long it takes for her to convince me she's sorry.
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I always like the idea of more complicated punishments for failure, especially if multiple girls were trying to rebel or something. Especially if you have them build the machine for their own punishment (non lethal of course, but they don't know that)
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>>11562042
Oh no, it's very likely her first time. Elves live a very long time, sure, but they're so powerful and their kingdoms so safe that they've likely never experienced something like this.
Also god dammit I love your picture. Can never get tired of it.

>>11562128
It's not a question of conscious thought, rather subconscious. Or something. You're right in that elves typically aren't ready for such constant suffering, and that's a big part of why they're so fun to play with, but that isn't enough to actually break them. Low defense, VERY high health.
If you think you've seen a broken elven slave then you probably haven't. She's likely still herself, and/or would be able to recover relatively easily if her situation improved.
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I would love to be someone's slave but not most of you guys yeesh!
I don't know what I would do if I got tricked by a Dom/owner into thinking they would let me go after we finish a session and then they just don't. I stay tied up, gagged and blindfolded, and they just keep me. It's honestly something that always sits in the back of my head when starting a new relationship with a Dom.
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>>11562149
There's a big reason why I love the hole so much. Force the rebels to dig and build a new one. Just a metal pipe barely large enough for all of them to be thrown into, dug into the ground so shallow that they could probably climb out if not for the grate. Stand directly over them with the whip while they build the drainage system. Make sure they know that it won't hold up to a torrential downpour, but they'll be stuffed down there for at least a few weeks once it's had enough time to settle in the ground for a few days, so they'll just have to pray very hard that the weather wants them to live.

Of course, those few days to settle weren't needed, but it was what was needed for another slave to construct a drainage system that would absolutely be able to handle a large amount of water, like if the loyal parts of the estate were to be allowed to run back and forth filling up buckets to dump out on the disloyal beasts down there. They were all imprisoned in some dungeon the entire time, they'll have no idea, not until they hear the commotion above them and the water splashing in way more than they know they should be able to handle.

>>11562156
Oh that was something I had to get used to when I first started posting here. This thread works on BDSM porn logic, which is mostly just maximum cruelty.

It does get a bit discordant with how I will call a slave lower than dirt but then actually treat them with extreme care for their feelings, like the biggest thing you need to have with your slave is empathy and communication, but eh, that's just how threads like this are.

Do not use the simulated drowning punishment hole as a representation for how to actually train and care for a real slave girl, only for inspiration for horny things to do with her.
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>>11562164
>>11562156
Exactly, everything here is an exaggeration. I probably wouldn't do most of these things IRL.
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>>11562156
How many times you say you have masturbated to this fantasy of yours?
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>>11562156
it's hard to explain but once owned the most important part is the illusion of cruelty, where Master is scary enough and has the capacity to deal punishments, but also kind and tender so that He may have mercy if i beg for mercy pathetically enough.
Like being ordered back into my cage after a session, and if i obey then Master lets me snuggle in a human bed with a strong heavy arm lazily draped over me like a lion with its kill.

That's only after being purchased of course, before Master buys me, the chattel slavery i am forced through would be horrific

>>11562146
that actually sounds really cute
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>>11562958
>chained to the wall
Would you want to be a slave chained to one specific area, where there are multiple slaves (one for each room), or have a harness you get attached to in each room?
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>>11562961
The second one please, especially if it's a padlock that i can clip myself onto, but not escape from without Master's assistance
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Found out the catgirls in chainsmoker cat can be owned like pets or property and daydreamed all day about being one of them who gets debt trapped into sex slavery as a live-in maid.

I don't know who I can vent this to other than this thread.
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>>11563336
Preach. This is the place for it. I'm thinking about just straight up trying to sell myself. It's legal to buy humans in the US.
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>>11562977
That sounds enjoyable. I like to be hanged by my wrists. It would be so nice to be hanging there blindfolded, and suddenly feel Master's warmth, and have them wrap their arm around my waist and gently lift me off the hook. The release of tension in my shoulders, the blood flow back into my hands, the ecstasy when I finally feel the ball gag removed from between my teeth, and then the cozy comfy fuzzy blanket with Master.
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>>11563342
>>11563336
I wish they would hurry up on genetically engineering catgirls so we could own them.
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>>11563355
*pamper them.
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If your slave really, really wanted to kiss you, sloppily and hungrily, even in public, what would you do?
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>>11553811
Honestly, just accelerate what we have now with extreme feminism, just pick a point in time where men "break" and revolt and re-establish control, this time enslaving all women and killing off simp men. It would be an important world building point to establish "simp breaking" men as a rite of passage - boys in school are forced to beat a slave female in order to become a man, ensuring no simp leaves the system. If they puss out or otherwise wimp out, the system recycles the boys back to class or flat out kills them depending on how dystopic you want to be. You could set it up so that females born to slaves get auto-collected by the government to train into new product so that fathers cannot get attached and simp out. This results in a massive boost in society's development because now all the autists get women and they then become highly productive to pay for harems and feeding their women, so you can make it a tech boom too. And you can avoid sexbots because it turns out female slaves are cheap in comparison! For this world the slave supply is fixed and breeds according to their master's whims, leading to a sizable birth rate over time. While sure some slaves get put on BC, eventually masters want sons to raise and in the process of that any girl produced is handed over to the gov't to raise for other men. If war happens, any women taken get added to the slave pool, and all the enemy men get killed as a matter of course. Slave training is basically provided for all women via public school where they are guarded and trained in the domestic & sexual arts. The market is then used to buy/sell/trade them, essentially following car pricing schemes - new unused young models come out at max price, there is then a used slave market, and as the females age out they get cheaper and cheaper. Sales happen to help move unpopular inventory.
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>>11563887
Maybe a peck on the cheek if they were very good
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>>11563896
Fuck off.
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>>11563896
Love me a good "real world" setting, systemically creating sadists is a good way of avoiding sympathetic men overthrowing the system.
I think the idea of every slave getting handed over to the state to be raised would cause some friction however, lots of men would want to keep what's theirs, even if there's a separate category for free women vs slaves where one could have a daughter, raise her and it still fulfills the classical "Marry for politics" vibe.
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>>11563896
>what we have now with extreme feminism, just pick a point in time where men "break" and revolt and re-establish control
>what we have now with extreme feminism
I'm actually curious where you live? Because in my country the president is an open pedophile and rapist
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>>11563346
There's never enough talk on the warm fuzzy feeling slaves get after being released from stress positions by Master.
Being so exhausted you collapse and splay yourself at Master's feet whilst thanking Him for His generosity.
It's like when you fall asleep after a long car journey and get carried up your bed
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>>11564325 #
I just read a beautiful writeup about that, a fellow sub/slave wrote that I'm following. It's so important, because aside from in fantasy you can't really be abused 100% of the time without eventually breaking, and while that's a neat fantasy, and I consider myself very subby, I wouldn't want my entire personality and mental state to be completely broken down and destroyed. I couldn't take that. Right now I'm in pretty good pain in all sorts of different parts of my body and just need to rest for a while. I'm stumbling around like a newborn fawn because of it, and I don't think I could do another 10 minutes of anything other than cuddling.
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I go back and forth between wanting a slavewife that cooks me dinner and then rides me until we fall asleep together, and a torture toy that I keep chained up in the basement who winds up with a pavlovian fear response to a door opening.
Now I realize the solution is having both, ideally where the slavewife enjoys using the basement slave just as much as I do. What could be more romantic than breaking a slave together?
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>>11564447
There's a surprisingly small amount of good art of "superior" slaves punishing/torturing lesser slaves. Please post it if you have any.
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>>11564450
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>>11564447
Find a girl with a torture toy slave who looks like your type.
Engineer her downfall, make both her and her toy your slaves.
Heal and groom the torture toy into being your slave-wife who cooks you dinner and sleeps with you, and break her former master into your shared torture toy.
This is the way.
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>>11564447
I love that a lot

Yumiko my beloved...
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>>11564480
look how happy she is
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>>11564482
she can be angry too if someone tries to escape while under her care and get her in trouble
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>>11564483
Same for Chris
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>>11564385
Weird coincidence, I was just looking at that exact pic yesterday. Poor little princess, married off to a foreign prince after her country lost a war to his. By the end of her first week, she's written down a whole list of important lessons she's learned about her new life.

Day 1
>I am to kneel and bend my head in my husband's presence, even at the altar during the wedding ceremony.
>Talking back to my husband is a bad idea.
>Saying the word "no" to my husband is a worse idea.
>Being deflowered hurts.
>Being deflowered would have hurt less if I hadn't talked back to my husband first.
Day 2
>I thought there were only two openings in my body that a penis could fit in. This was incorrect.
>A penis is more challenging to fit into some of them than others.
>My husband enjoys a challenge.
Day 3
>I'm here as a hostage to give my father-in-law, the king, leverage over my father.
>If my father does something politically that the king doesn't like, I'll be told to report to the west dungeon.
>What happens there will be documented with a magic image box and the pictures will be sent by royal courier to my family.
>The dungeon master has ordered a new kind of image box that makes moving pictures. He's very excited for it to arrive.
Day 4
>I'm the sixth wife in my husband's harem.
>His first wife is his sister. They like to keep the bloodline pure.
>She is the mother of his heirs. They have two sons, 10 and 2 years old, and a daughter, 7 years old.
>I am to kneel in their presence the same as my husband, even around the toddler.
>I didn't know to kneel, so she called a solider to fetch a cane and punish me.
>She ordered twice as many strokes as my husband did on my first day.
>She scares me even more than he does. I think I should avoid her.
>Wives #2-5 are princesses from other conquered vassal states.
>I tried to make friends, but they all ignored me. I wonder why.
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>>11564487
And Fubuki
all of this studios games have this dynamic in each of their games in spades
I think this one may have the most, in terms of actually being a part of the scenes, theres none where she isn't participating
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>>11564488
Day 5
>My husband loves animals. His pets are respected members of the household.
>He shares food from his plate with his dogs at meals. Today after lunch, he shared me with them too.
>There are eight dogs, all male. He says he has enough bitches already.
>He took a turn himself after they got tired. The mess didn't seem to bother him.
>He's going to take me to the stables and show me around soon.
Day 6
>Sorry for the bad penmanship in this entry. It's hard to grip a quill right now.
>Last night the thing I was dreading happened. There was a skirmish on the border between my home kingdom and my new home.
>Early this morning a guard knocked on my door and brought me to the west dungeon.
>The dungeon master was rubbing his hands with glee. He said it had been a long time since he had such a cute young first-timer, and he had lots of creative ideas to keep me entertained for the day.
>He was indeed very creative.
>He brought in one of the other wives to help him. I guess that explains why they didn't want to get to know me.
>I wonder if I'll have to do the same in the future.
>He kept a few of the pictures from the image box for himself. Apparently I'm going on his wall of highlights.
>When he was done, the guard carried me back to my room and dumped me on my bed. He looked a little nauseous when he saw me.
>I've been lying like this all afternoon and I still can't walk.
Day 7
>I can stand up today, but swallowing food is still hard.
>I can't find my favorite pair of panties I was wearing yesterday. The dungeon master must have kept them. Bet he's got a wall of panties too.
>I've been told I'll be spending tonight in my husband's bed. I'm not sure I can please him in this state.
>On second thought, that's probably exactly why he picked me for tonight.
>The messenger should be reaching my father's court about now. I wonder what my family will think.
>I hope his response doesn't make the king angry again.
>I couldn't endure another session in that dungeon.
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What do you think about keeping some slaves as decoration?

What kind of adaptations would the human body need to stay in a single position forever (realistically)?
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>>11564498
You have to turn them over sometimes or they'll get bedsores. Not pleasant.

My slaves are all trained to perform multiple functions: table, chair, footstool, coat rack, and so on. Whenever I move they automatically snap to whatever I need at the moment. If they anticipate my needs wrong, well, that's a beating. Much more economical than single-purpose displays, and it saves space too.
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>>11564385
yeah it's so good to find, but i understand why this fantasy thread is focused on Master's perspective.
i'm happy for you as you sound like you've got it made, try to make sure you get lots of rest so you can recover for the Master's next beating

>>11564458
>Be daughter of tavernwhore
>Kept and the landlord takes rather a shine to me
>One night when cleaning after closing time get kidnapped by a jealous wife of a customer
>Tortured and beaten in secret for who knows how long, as there's no way to track the passing days
>Eventually she feels guilty and tries to sell me to passing slavers in the dead of night
>Slavers can guess that i'm illicit goods, and not really her property, and that she wouldn't have told anybody where she was going or what she was doing
>they know they can safely imprison us both
>We are both locked in a cage at the back, unable to do anything but glare at each other, blaming the other one for our current misfortune
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it would be fun to feed and clean your slave
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>>11564589
Feeding gets expensive though. Or maybe it's just me.
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>>11564498
Slaves are kept in transparent vacbeds when not in use. Some are framed and displayed on walls like paintings, but most are kept hanging in the wine cellar.
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>>11564731
It's OK, she only needs around 1200 calories per day. That's a few cups of rice + a multivitamin.

I like my slaves super thin too, so it's a bonus that it will be cheap, and she will stay thin.
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>>11564731
How lucky for her. Master likes to see my ribs, so I only get one small meal per day that is selected for me. Usually leftovers.
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>>11564749
The only time a girl needs more than 1000-1100 calories a day is if she's pregnant.

Especially if you raise her from birth on a restricted diet so she stays small.
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>>11564739
1200 is a light breakfast over here. But hey, she needs all of those calories to uuh.. warm up my bed. And me.
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How would you punish an unruly slave?
I like the idea of using breathplay for this, pinching their nose/using a clothespin while they are gagged for 30 seconds and keep increasing the time the more they misbehave.

"We’ve established that you like to breathe, and that I can take that away from you whenever I choose. So it would be best if you kept me happy."
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>>11564766
Poke her cheek and say ''hey, behave now''.
That usually works.
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If you had a slave you could secretly feed it drugs, like molly so they wouldn't feel pain and lose their inhabitions. Then really have your way with them. The right combo and it would blank their memories of it too, so they would wake up days later all sore.
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>>11564777
thats hot
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Highkey wish I was a slave
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>>11564917
I know. Me too. It would be so nice to not have to think about anything anymore. I'm fucking over it. I said it earlier, I'm looking into trying to sell myself. It's 100% legal to buy humans in the USA.
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>>11557265
>you see, young mistress...when men and boys see a nice nude woman like me, their penis's get hard and their instincts tell them to put it inside us
>but that sounds gross and painful?
>sometimes for us it can be, yes, but it feels very good for men so it's all they can ever think about
>so I should just tell him he can put his penis inside me?
>absolutely not, you are way too young for that
>...
>*ahem* what I meant to say was it's unattractive to just offer yourself up like that, there's got to be a chase so he feels like he earned it
>but I can't wait years to develop a body like yours!
>hmm...seeing so bound slaves may have given him a taste for bondage, next time you're alone with him drop hints you want to play some sort of escape game or damsel roleplay
>th-then what do I do?
>once you can't move a muscle...bat your eyes, wiggle your butt, moan into your gag, and don't forget to look embarrassed
>being tied up...sounds really scary though...
>you get used to it. would you like to practice with me? we'll take it one step at a time
>yes please! you're the best slave ever!
>your parents said the same thing last night...
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>>11564927
>It's 100% legal to buy humans in the USA.
This isn't true
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>>11564927
>>11564974
It isn't true, and any contract to that effect will be legally unenforceable, but if you figure out a way to disappear without anyone looking for you then functionally it's the same thing.
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>>11563342
>>11564927
Also, post your physical attributes so we can decide how much you'd be worth
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Would you have male slaves or just girls?
What would you do when they hit twinkdeath?
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>>11565011
>twinkdeath
Selective breeding and calorie control should get you several years of useful fertility from a male with good genes. Otherwise, castration! With today's pharmacology they can stay beautiful for just as long as a female.
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I found slavekino but it's not translated
also it may go a bit hard for some of you but, if i like it then maybe theres someone else that will
it's got worldbuilding and drama and sex

>[Kajikitetsu] "Red Tag" Episode 1
https://nhentai.net/g/413420/

https://nhentai.net/search?q=Kajikitetsu%5D+%22Red+Tag
Ten chapters
(actually theres 12 but only chinks have the last 2 chapters translated they didn't upload the raws.

>>11564498
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>>11565097
(mtl) translation
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>>11564974
>>11565004
What do you mean it isn't true? I can totally, 100% legally pay a mother to buy her baby. This happens every single day in the USA, and is 100% legal, and is absolutely 100% human trafficking by definition.
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>>11565005
I don't think I'll be worth all that much, I'm pretty common.
5'5"
Black hair, very dark eyes.
Super pale is my best attribute
120lbs pink nipples and butthole.
>>11565043
>Castration
Don't threaten me with a good time.
>>11565011
Slaves getting old is a problem for everyone.
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>>11565043
>>11565111
I guess if you castrated them at birth and gave them mandatory HRT it would extend them for a while, but wouldn't that defeat most of the point of a male slave?

Or is it more "making the best of bad material?"
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>>11565189
>castrated them at birth
That's a bit extreme, I think. I'm definitely fantasizing about being a male whose genitals were surgically removed at birth, and who was raised as a sex slave. Don't get me wrong, god I wish that was me, but castration shortly before puberty is pretty much every bit as good. HRT also doesn't need to fully feminize them, I'm imagining that a popular regimen would give the "otokonoko with budding breasts" look for a long time.

Anyway, while male beauty has been suppressed and trashed in the West for a couple hundred years, you can look to all kinds of Eastern media for examples of standards we should be enforcing and aspiring towards. While every male slave should know how to best beautify and care for himself in the cosmetic sense, only those with great natural virtues should be temporarily spared castration so they can breed with female slaves. You only need a few breeding males, each with a short tenure, to meet all your reproductive needs.
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>>11565206
I wonder what the optimal age of castration is for aesthetic beauty. If it was too early wouldn't the dick not grow at all?
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>>11565206
>>11565210

Y'all need an insane asylum to be locked in
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>>11565245
Wrong thread? >>11516284
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>>11565245
Yeah the one called "my basement"
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>>11560999
It's probably a little too furry so I don't want to risk posting it here, but your posts reminded me of this old DA pic I loved.
There are a few locked up squirming mummies, and no doubt at least a dozen more offscreen. The slave is wrapped up just like them, but with significantly less layers allowing her to see, hop around, etc.
She dusts them off using her tail to hold a dust feather, and her thought bubble reads "mistress will praise me if I do a good job cleaning~"

Hot on so many levels. The way she cares more about doing a good job for mistress over the fate of her fellow slaves, the mummies struggling being so ineffective it doesn't even get in her way whatsoever, and of course the implication she'll be joining them one day and another slave will dust her off in an endlessly growing loop.

I just imagine every time a slave fucks up, a little bit of wrapping is added each time. At first it's not too bad, you can still carry a plate or whatever with one hand wrapped shut. But everybody makes mistakes and inevitably each small wrapping adds up until you can't do anything but fail and get wrapped up more and more until one day you're just carried to the basement.
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If I was a sadistic Master I would buy a female and male slave. I would put sperm from the male slave in the sperm bank, then I would castrate and feminize him. After he's truly broken in, I'll go get his sperm from the bank and use it to impregnate my female slave. Then I'll make them raise the baby as 2 moms. Then when the child reaches age, I'll buy another slave and do it all over again.
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>>11565111
There's a slave I captured in one of these threads a while back who matches that description. I hope she's doing alright, her slave-standard mental illnesses makes it tough for her to maintain contact while being long distance. It's a shame, she's actually very well behaved otherwise, would grade her higher than more than a few slaves.

>>11565371
I am a sadistic Master and I would make a fun game of forcing a slave to tell me about these unhinged things that make her horny, only to give her a minor punishment for it.

Saying something like that while leaking out from between her legs would probably lead to her having to tell me all about how even a free toddler is superior to her, since they will use that freedom for good when they grow up, unlike her who had a good reason to never deserve it. While she is also doing 50 push ups. With my boot pushing her down the entire time. It will get a lot worse if she gets in the way of having fun.
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Here's an idea: Urinary system modifications for servants that make them pee high quality tea and wine. Less time wasted on shopping is more time well spent on serving their master and the process is simplified to just pouring the drink in the right container (or just drinking from the source, but, imo, there's a certain appeal in the servants pouring it the glass for you (as well as helping you drink, especially since it lets you put your hands to better use, like feeling their body)).
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>>11565711
>dark future of slave body horror
>forced through a painful operation in order to rob you of that scrap of humanity where your body still produced waste
>now its yet another product for humans to enjoy, that you aren't even allowed to have since you aren't a human

Yeah once you get into stuff like that there's no limit to how deeply you can degrade slaves. As someone who likes his coffee that does sound like fun.

I wouldn't drink directly from the source, that feels too much like sucking my slaves cock instead of her purpose on earth being to suck mine, but having her kneel and hold the glass is just good service fundamentals. Even thousands of years from now a slave will have to know how to kneel down there and make having a drink a enjoyable experience for who it exists for. How to keep it steady even when the human is making it hard for it. How to hold the glass to their lips should they desire it, and how to make sure they don't get so upset with it being such a dumb low grade servant that it earns a hard slap across the face and the human drink being dumped directly ontop of the slaves head as punishment.

The rule about it being a major punishment if she drinks a single drop of this stuff without permission even though its now dripping down her face is dehumanizing enough. That whole body modification thing just rubs it in even more, it sounds delightful.
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>>11565721
I don't see how gifting your servants the body they should have been born with is a punishment.
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>>11565721
>>11565711
>>11565741
A good compromise is removing their waste system and replacing it with some kind of serving system, so real drinks are inserted into them through some kind of port, then they dispense it.
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>>11565741
Oh I'm sure she's brainwashed and devoted enough to be eternally grateful to Master for changing her body to be closer to what it was always meant to be. If she isn't, then it's up to me if I want to use the old ways of torture and training to correct her delusions, or the new way of just replacing another part.
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>>11564589
It is. I like to feed her when she's blindfolded, the little groping thing she does with her mouth makes me diamonds.
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I would only allow my slaves to eat or drink things that made their bodily fluids taste good, like celery, parsley, pineapple, kiwi, papaya, oranges and I would also make them take those edible rose supplements that make their sweat smell like roses.
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>>11565760
Those rose things sound more my speed. It'd be good if my slave has a full day of hard toil to do, especially outdoors.

Aside from making her sweat easier to tolerate for her betters while they make sure she works to exhaustion, I will have to make sure she gets aftercare after such a ordeal. When her spent body finally falls at my feet begging for mercy, crouching down to hug her and tell her how proud I am of her while she sobs into my chest. she's just a beast but through the pain and the sweat she did as she was told, the only thing that is expected from her. Having her smell a bit less like a piece of filth in one of her lowest states would be helpful.

Im not sure if those rose supplements are a real thing or not but I like the idea of just giving my slave a few pills and her just not questioning at all what they are and why Master is giving them to her. Master has a plan for her, and she has no right to question it. she has had no need nor right to think since that collar was locked around her neck.
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>>11565760
Oh and I would constantly make them take care of each other's beauty routines. Like hair and makeup and skin care and shaving routines. They would be expert beauticians, pedicurists, acupuncturists, masseuse.. when they weren't working on each other they would be pampering me. Then I would fuck their asses with my tongue.
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>>11565111
>5'5"
>120lbs
Holy.
How small is your cage?
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>>11565769
Tfw 167cm.
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>>11565743
That kind of takes away the charm. It's important that they produce it. As in organically. Their very body being changed down to the cellular level to act as both the main ingredients (no gurofaggotry) and the processing tools, their bodily functions repurposed for servitute, in a way that feels completely natural, even though it is anything but. All mammals pee and so do servants, those ones were just blessed with a piss that's suitable for drinking and is to their master's liking, how lucky of them.
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>>11565804
I was imagining a mechanical device implanted inside but it being more bio engineering does feel especially suitable.

Makes me imagine trying to instill some slave religion where the only thing they're told about this is that Master is God and will sometimes grant such favour upon the worthy that they are changed forever by His divine touch. There's no reason for slaves to know the actual truth about anything.
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>>11565011
>Would you have male slaves or just girls?
I have two mindsets about that:

1: Female-only slavery, because realistically having male slaves breaks modern economics and forces you to put a lot of effort towards dealing with uprisings.
2: A woman who gets a man to wear a chastity device, either by tricking him or by him volunteering, legally owns his penis.
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>>11560974
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>>11565769
I fit in a large kennel quite nicely. I sleep nude though, so I have to have blankets. I usually am curled in a ball.
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>>11565839
Not that cage.
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>>11565815
>because realistically having male slaves breaks modern economics and forces you to put a lot of effort towards dealing with uprisings.
I feel like HRT fixes this. If you have them on it from puberty + castrated there isn't really any extra risk.
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>>11565848
Oh... Well I actually have a very big cock. And so I have a metal cage that's not flat. I mean it's not like insane big, but on my small frame it seems pretty big. I probably should've included this in my description. I would say my body is small, but my cock is normal size, and so it looks giant on me. I've met guys twice my since but their cock was the same size as mine. I'm really not too keen on it, but it is what it is. It definitely takes away from the aesthetic I'm shooting for. I guess it has it's uses. I've never tried like a flat cage, so I don't know how I would take to it.
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I like how it's mostly women being portrayed as slaves. This is sort of like an extension of the patriarchy thread, but maybe even more patriarchal since it isn't prompted.
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>>11565832
I posted that image a few months ago in this thread, that might actually be where it's saved from. It's a good one. As time as gone on I've grown to like the kind of "long black hair and super pale skin" aesthetic. It feels more authentic to the kind of nerds that would actually want to be permanent slaves than the more conventionally attractive blondes I liked before. Hard to put into words exactly. Maybe that classic set of images with the blonde twink dominating his personal and completely dehumanized slave girl that I post at least one of in every thread is responsible for that too.

Of course, I don't like how she's failed to shave down there before being put up on the cross. Maybe she's been up there a while, either way it's best to hold a slave down and do it for them if they can't or won't stay ontop of it.
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>>11565874
She's probably been up there a few days. I'm sure it will be at least a couple of months till she is let down.
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>>11565888
she'll be borderline catatonic when she comes down if she's going to be up there that long. If she comes down.

You don't get sentenced to such horrific treatment without serious disobedience, stuff that more brief forms of torture has failed to correct. she has nobody to blame but herself.

I'll probably assign another slave to help trim her while she's on display though. One that could do with a example of what happens to slaves that aren't fully devoted.
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>>11565004
>>11564974
>>11565110
The 13th Amendment allows the government to use criminals for involuntary servitude. Many states in the south ran prison farms in the past and NYC still uses them to dig graves.
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>>11565854
>Small
>Pale
>Big dick who need a lot of downsizing in a proper cage
>Actualy willing to become a slave
What is the catch here, anon? How come you are not chained in some sadistic fuck's basement? Is there no one around you willing to do that?
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>>11566120
Oh believe me, I'm working on finding my Master. Just recently started going to events and whatnot. Kinda have to be careful about it because I'm a sub, not a super masochist, don't want to end up tied up in the wrong person's basement, even though the fantasy is hot.
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>>11566185
Is it really kidnapping if you have fantasized and masturbated about it innumerable times?
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>>11566251
Well yes haha. It still would be. I don't want to actually get mind broken. I would fucking break if some of the things I enjoy are done to me for too long, or too hard. I guess it's very unslave of me. My body would break down pretty quickly as well.
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>>11566282
>I don't want to actually get mind broken.
That's exactly what a slave who wants to get mindbroken would say.
Many such cases!
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>>11566336
You just gave me goosebumps and sent a shiver down my spine.
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>>11552805
>what setting
Near future.
>main supply
Mostly debt, but hereditary being increasingly common. Of course some foreign/trafficked/smuggled get mixed in, like any business.
>mass enslavement
They're just immediately sold off. Slaves trying to work together is common sense, so them being split off and sold to different households does enough work. Owners usually don't let their property socialize with unrelated slaves.

>how should they feel about you
Who cares?
>would you consider training a group or pairs?
Ideally slaves shouldn't encounter one another unless you have staff to monitor them constantly. If you're training your own slaves you should try to handle multiple.
>would you train slaves who know one another
A good option for suicidal slavers.
>what relations should slaves have with one another
They shouldn't be allowed to form relationships.
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>>11566341
*shouldn't try to handle multiple
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>>11566339
Is that good or bad?
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>>11566344
Scary is what it is.
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>>11566346
There's a lot of scary men out there. Be careful little slave.
I mean you probably find that exciting.
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Do any of your servants do any good morning/night rituals. Daily wake-up blowjobs, maybe barging in pretending to be dogs with the newspsaper in their mouth, things like that.
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>>11566349
It is incredibly exciting and scary. I like feeling my adrenaline go nuts.. to a point. Thanks for the kind words and warning, and attention. I guess if the wrong Master picks me that will be the end of that. However. I am very good at talking my way out of things, begging and being pathetic and it usually works for me historically, and the kink community seems to be pretty warm and welcoming so I guess I'll find out.
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>>11566513
Haven't seen too many good night rituals before. I have mine kneel on the floor next to the bed and ask for permission to fall asleep every night. I usually give her some good affection while granting permission, and clarifying if she's sleeping on the floor or in the human bed with me that night.

It helps quiet a slaves mind when the last thing they do before trying to fall asleep is showing deep respect for who they serve, and the last thing they heard was that person's voice.
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you know ai is kinda like a slave
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>>11566346
>>11566523
You're lucky you'll get to pick your master. In a better world I'd probably buy one or two slaves like you, making sure I get ones that I can properly motivate with fear. I'd have you do the all the cleaning in the house and dungeon. You'd service me while I torture a more masochistic and/or less lucky slave. I'd tell you how lucky you are that you're the one being fucked and not the one being whipped, but you'd know that could change at any time. Then you get to put the other slave back in their cage and clean up the mess.
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>Bringing takeout inside
>Bag rips, makes giant mess
>Swear, eat what's salvageable
>After eating I'm cleaning up the remnants of the mess
>Knock over photo, frame breaks
I might like the fantasy but I don't think I'm actually cut out for the whole "domestic slave" thing.
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>>11566513
>Good morning
Kisses on my forehead to wake me up, bath drawn, ready to clean me
>good night
Makes my bed for me, wears a loose nightgown, handjob to completion

A best slave does the responsibilities of a wife without the nagging or emotional attachment
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>>11566611
>my slave has been in service for over 2 years now, though training her never truly ends
>she still is very clumsy and uncoordinated, knocks over other things of mine all the time
>she still has to be manhandled into the shower or around her domestic chores when executive dysfunction is really acting up
>maybe after 5 years of service she'll be brainwashed enough that her training will finally stick

One of the ways the fantasy might collide with reality on the Master side is that I'd feel a bit bad about punishing a slave too badly for stuff like that. Like breaking a frame for sure needs some form of discipline but if she's just being her usual clumsy self she's still trying her best, even if she is showing disrespect by knocking things over that are equal in humanity to her.

>>11566751
>without the nagging or emotional attachment

Sure you can beat the nagging out of a slave instantly but emotional attachment might be a bit much. These things get obsessive as a default state.

If you get bored of one of them and throw them out your front door it has a 0% chance of actually leaving. If anything it'll spend day and night screaming for your forgiveness until it can't anymore. There's more than a few things you can't really beat out of a slave.
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>>11566572
That would be highly motivating, scary and super hot.
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>>11566523
I would be really worried about your master if he lets you talk. Or bodily autonomy. Or anything that is not doing as you are ordered.
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>>11566513
Morning cuddles, duh.
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A slave should always be well kept and presentable. A poorly kept slave is a sign of a poor master.
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>>11567284
Eh, it depends...
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>>11565210
~13, probably. right before puberty but after the penis has grown.
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>>11552805
What should be done toward old slaves? Should you execute them with orgasm torture? Petrify them to preserve what remain of their beauty? Continue using them until they are getting too old and ugly? Or just kill them before they reach 30?
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>>11567284
>A poorly kept slave is a sign of a poor master.
Obviously. I'm not a barbarian. Clean pretty clothes and plenty of food for that dumb thing. Though at first when she was still untrusting and scared of me she thought it was all some evil scheme of mine and that I would somehow punish her later. I don't like how timid and frightened slaves end up in the hands of their trainers before they're sold, I had a lot of trouble in making her understand that I wasn't going to treat her like that.
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Can someone make me there slave pls
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>See hand drawn sign that says "31Ave"
Guess what I read
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>>11567672
Post sex/age/height/weight and maybe we can find a buyer for you
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>>11566611
Spilling the food should have been good practice, as every Master likes watching His slaves eat off the floor, whilst topless, and wrists behind their back.
But,i hope you properly punished yourself for your clumsiness afterwards, and apologised for being so useless


>>11566513
>night
>slaves led in a chain to the slave quarters (an empty room with various sleeping arrangements, cages, no way of telling the time, and a third world squat hole in the corner
>Master picks which slaves He will bed
>we are let out of chastity for the night, and are to stand either side of the overnight cage for Master's male slave, tempting him with forbidden fruit as it is led between our helpless, vulnerable bodies
>sometimes Master will allow the male slave free reign as a treat, on those nights the smartest and quickest of us will lock ourselves in cages for protection
>Master picks the rest of the sleeping arrangements, who gets the cushions, or mattress, hard floor, hay bale etc.
>by the morning, those of us not locked in cages must have prettied ourselves up, and linked our cuffs to the dangling ceiling chains, ready for inspection before Master opens the door
Those that don't are punished
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You know, I've been thinking: Making a slave have sex with some feral monster would most likely be physically painful, but is it really degrading? I mean, yeah, sure, it's a mindless freak of nature, but surviving an elemental dragon's second head spilling lava cum inside you is a feat of endurance.
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>>11567502

They are quite useful to keep around to help train new girls. Besides, if a girl managed to serve for long enough to reach older age without losing your interest or being sold, it is something to be rewarded and used as an example of what your other slaves can strive for.

I personally am too sentimental and my father's head girl that practically raised me doles out punishment and is responsible for the other girls when I am away.
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>Problem: Your slave gets upset about how old she is, keeps trying to tell you that you should have executed her when she turned 30
>Solution: Torture her in ways that make her feel younger, like how people should have treated her when she was in school
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>>11567759
Mtf(i know sorry)/26/5'3/114lbs
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>>11568232
God I'd bully a girl like that so much, you have no idea. Being so small and petite, NTA you quoted but you'd probably fetch a decent price at the auction, just don't let it go to your head, you're still a worthless piece of dirt like every other slave.
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>>11567502
Imagine having this problem. Elves win again.
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>>11568261
>Elf that gets herself sold to a human to indulge in her kink
>When he dies she'll simply take the opportunity to free herself
>Is what she's been telling herself for five generations
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This cute retard who's already half enslaved shows up at your door, wdyd?
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Yandere slaves prove all the time why they need to be put in chains for their own good. When cursed with freedom, they'll just hurt themselves as much as they hurt their betters.
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>>11568501
Oh she's getting collected. I'm not going to do anything too nasty, but she's definitely going to remain in those cuffs for a while, even though I know how to pick them easily.
One of my slave party tricks is I'm an escape artist. I've been cuffed in real cuffs behind my back and have picked them. The only time they become an issue is if they take the time to lock the mechanism that keeps them from over tightening, but that's defeatable as well it just takes extra time. Funny thing is when I was a kid I got into a lot of trouble and ended up on probation. My probation officer used to come to my house and make sure all my shit was together, and I wasn't doing anything crazy. I was a teenager, but my room was immaculate. I had so many cool things. I had the biggest sound system, and over a thousand records. I had all my consoles, and games all perfectly organized. And I had a pair of Smith and Wesson handcuffs on a shelf. My probation officer saw them on one of his visits and the next thing I knew I was cuffed and he was teaching me how to pick them. I couldn't say no to him because he was in such a position of power over me. At any time he could just take me to jail. Nothing sex happened, but now that I'm thinking about it I realize he was definitely doing bondage to me, and probably a big reason I'm into it today. Fucking crazy world out there. Sorry to blab but your pic brought up some memories.
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>>11567502
All my slaves serve until they are 40. They are allowed (or even encouraged) to form friendships, relationships, families and so on, even if they have some complicating elements (males are put into chastity cages upon acquisition and don't get to take them off other than for special moments (their and my birthdays, for common male slaves, rewards for exceptional service, or, for my favored slaves, I might just hand them the key to their own chastity cage and let them unlock it whenever)).
When they turn 40, they are stripped naked (chastity cage included), lead out the front door and given their freedom. Then, they are immediately offered employment back on the property. They get fewer hours of work, more benefits, an actual salary, ability to remain with their family, a superior position... Most accept the offer.
However, not all service by slaves is equal. Hot slaves work indoors and much easier jobs. Where a hot female slave I dislike might do 14 hour shifts in the bakery, wearing a large buttplug and making bread for slaves, a ugly female slave I like will be awarded the "privilege" of being put into harness, wearing a leather gimp mask and blindfold and pulling carts filled with grain in the hot scorching sun while being whipped for being too slow for "only" 8 hours a day (of course, the overseer, in this case, a twink, for the mistakes of failing to free her at the end of her shift and keeping her on for an extra 6 hours will be punished, probably by half a minute of light spanking and a few stern words - noone can expect me to punish a hot slave for his failings against an ugly slave, even if I like her).
Picrel is mother of one of my favoured slaves, has really crooked teeth, so she's ugly. Luckily for her, her son is a slave I really like, so she only gets 4 hours of work. Unluckily for her, the slave overseer that's supposed to handle her is on sick leave, so she gave her over to a colleague. She's been putting in 14h days for the last month.
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The desire to be nothing more than a slave to someone who just wants a torture doll that can also be used as an onahole grows stronger every day. Forced to wear tight latex so I can't hide anything, kept in chastity, a constant barrage of new and overwhelming predicaments. One week I'll be a pet, strapped up in a bitchsuit for my owners amusement, another I'll spend being a maid but with bondage so restrictive it prevents me from doing any chores and inviting punishment, another I'll be kept tightly restrained in the bathroom for visitors to use as they please.

Some of you are way too lenient. Slaves need to be reminded of their place constantly with maintenance discipline, degradation and humiliating punishments. It's just the natural way.
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>>11569309
I had something I call the "Reflection Cage" constructed for my slave a while back. Just a completely plain metal cage, no padding anywhere but plenty of space between the bars. Extremely uncomfortable to be locked into, especially with how it was purpose built for her measurements. If I manhandle her in there especially tight she can curl up into a ball and the front of it will have just enough clearance to close. The metal poking into her flesh is bad enough, but she also can't meaningfully move her body. she's been set up facing the living room corner for most of today, giving me a good view of her ass while she sobs to herself and thinks about what she's done.

I would like to think these beasts can be disciplined and trained into obedient servants, but perhaps this is naive. Still, even if this won't be anywhere close to the last time she ends up trapped in that cage she can still earn forgiveness through suffering. Having mercy for these things despite everything they do is what makes us truly human.

she will have forfeited all feeding bowl privileges for the time being however, possibly for the rest of her life. When I drag her out of the cage she's going to be given water by marching her outside and dumping a cup out onto the pavement. she won't be getting any slave kibble for a while.
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God I fucking love cute miniskirt meidos so damn much, it's impossible for me to overstate how much I love them.
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Being a slavewife probably is the best situation that I can be in. I'm a little stupid and can't be taken as an actual wife. I'm so blessed to have been bought by the household I'm in. While my masters wife takes care of the wifely business (of which I'm not allowed to take part in or know about. Why would I? I'm a slavewife not a wife) I take care of my Master and make sure he's happy and he's super productive!

The treatment and schedule of slavewives I've heard varies a lot depending on the master. My master has been quite nice I think. I come to his bedside before he wakes up. Sometimes he wants me to suck his cock before he gets out of bed. When he does it's really nice because when he comes in my mouth it helps me wake up too. I escort him to the shower and make sure he's clean and I help him get dressed. His wife has his food ready for him when I'm done so I take my spot on the floor by the table and have my morning oatmeal from my dish. He says if I am a good girl I might get a bowl with my name on it!

After the morning meal he goes into his office to start working and I take my place on the floor beside him. The carpet he has is a little itchy but I hope if I'm a really good girl he will get me a bed I can lie in when I'm accompanying him in the office.

The first week I've been here he's asked me to suck his cock quite a few times. Usually every couple hours. Making sure I swallow all his cum can be quite difficult sometimes - I can't let any leak out or drool anywhere. I made that mistake my first day and he punched me really hard in my face and it gave me a huge bruise and made my nose bleed a little bit. I made sure not to spill after that!

I was so happy yesterday because usually he calls his wife over to fuck her after he's done work but yesterday he grabbed my hair and brought me up and raped me instead. Master cumming inside me for the first time was so nice I'm never going to forget it. I hope I am not pregnant this time so he keeps trying <3
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>>11569309
The more I speak with submissives the more I discover almost all of them have the fantasy of slavery. Both on a micro level (kidnapping, blackmailing, extorsion, indentured servitude) or a macro level ("normal" slavery institution, patriarchy model, religious hierarchy).
They swear it's just a fantasy, but they keep making fantasies in their heads of how it could happen. And masturbating to them.
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>>11569309
There are gay men who would be happy to set you up with this situation right now
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>>11568232
>5'3/114lbs
You made the right choice. I'd probably end up paying a little above market rate for you. I hope you're a hardcore masochist though or the next decade or two might be a little rough.

>>11569309
See above, although it sounds like you'll be much more receptive to your new life.
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What kinds of body modification would you do to your slaves/like to be done to you? You can't keep a slave in a proper bitchsuit for more than a few hours, but if you just remove the offending joints then they can truly be a full-time bitch.
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>>11569577
from the pov of a sub it's very difficult to commit the longer you do it the more it cripples your future and it can end in a blink. i'm so jealous of the girl in this video but she's been through some rough shit

gofile.io/d/lgrIxTei
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>>11569670
I've seen that girl before. she puts a lot of her life on fetlife, I always enjoy seeing such a well behaved slave who is clearly full time.

she is also much skinnier in some of her photos compared to others, although she's not really a healthy weight in any of them. You're always going to get a skewed picture on social media but it seems like her two owners are doing their best to get her to eat, but it's tough when she clearly has some form of eating disorder, there's all sorts of ways a slave could feel like refusing to eat is completely justified. I would hope that's how her owners are treating her anyways. I imagine the clearly hard life she's had manifests in a lot of other ways that aren't as clearly visible every second she's in service.

I can see that fear of how hard it would be to return to a normal life after this. If things with her two owners didn't work out or she actually wanted to be free for whatever reason. I recognized her right away and I don't even live in the UK, I can't imagine how hard it would be to face the world knowing just how many people saw you as a slave.
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>>11569609
Make her soft and plump. Other than that? I dunno, buy her some cute apparel, that's it really.
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>>11569443
>slavewife probably is the best situation that I can be in
Lovely dynamic to this type of thing, I'd Imagine the wife is the one pushing her husband into this.
Maybe it's a mismatch in libedo, or perhaps she's to busy running the household to get knocked up again.
That aside your life wouldn't be all sex, there are other ways of entertaining them.
Maybe picking up art, dance, music, etc. your live to please after all.

>Master cumming inside me for the first time was so nice I'm never going to forget it.
>I hope I am not pregnant this time so he keeps trying
Pic related, your the marital aid aka the bottom.
Maybe mistress is into cuckqueen play, or hubby has a breeding fetish.
It's the perfect life once they both start getting into using you....
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>>11569609
Ocular modification controlling what she sees. The feed can be from cameras in the house, so she can only see herself in the 3rd person. Punishment can be inflicted by having strobing lights that are impossible for her to shut her eyes from. Geo-tracking embedded, and controlled so it turns off if she leaves the grounds.
There's nothing out there for her to see, anyway.
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>>11569915
>learning to move from third person
Sounds pretty fun actually
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>>11569670
>video
the way she is in obvious pain from each hit, but is so well trained that she doesn't even beg for mercy is crazy
imagine being bought by Master just so that you can be a punching bag for His sadistic slavewife.
Sometimes he lazily watches, and rarely gets involved, but when he does you feel it, like with how much more pain He caused her with the ninetails whip.
The only real respite you get is when the Master beds His slavewife, so you end up spending lots of your time praying for that to happen.

>>11569577
Kidnapping is a hot fantasy though, imagine being restrained in a lazy hogtie, packed in a suitcase, and driven somewhere.
They unpack another girl first, and as you lie there helpless, you can hear "No teeth", *smack, a sob, then "No Teeth" before a very audible deepthroat/skullfuck
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>>11570401
from what i know she spent her 20s bouncing between owners and her last master gifted her to the this couple and after 3 years with them she quit so now she's 30 and barely functional i hope she recovers, hot story if you're into this but not something every slave is up to.
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>>11570413
Y'know I haven't seen her profile in a while, I can't quite remember what it was called and I never bookmarked it, maybe that's why. That's a real shame. I hope she is able to live the best life she can but concentrated mental anguish has a way of stopping you from doing that.

Those are really hot videos though. A inspiration to try and build a better life for your slave, I suppose.
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>>11570401
If I were to ever acquire a slave through less-than-societally-acceptable means, it'd be a long, long time before I used her mouth without some kind of ring or plug gag in
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>>11570436
Even if they claim to be half-enslaved already and desperately want to be kidnapped their minds are fragile and they're going to freak out constantly. They're just slaves.

You have to have security measures for her safety just as much as yours. It's for her own good. There will be no off-leash time.
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>>11567502
Old Yeller way.
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>>11570469
>elf slave brought to an estate where older slaves are hung
>hundreds of years old, but still fit and beautiful, elves be like that
>one of the managers hears her age
>within the hour she’s strung up; noose around her neck, arms behind her back, legs straining to keep her balance
>frantically trying to explain the difference between human and elven ages
>sure, whatever, rules are rules
>all her superior elven fitness accomplishes is let her last for days before her legs give out
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Is giving freedom to an old slave even mercy? Imagine having to start your life from zero in your forties, and your resume is sucking dicks and housework.
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>>11570474
Servitude is what they are meant for. Freeing them is the exact opposite of giving them freedom. If anything they'd just spend the entire time begging their former Master for permission to execute themselves.
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>>11570474
Shawshank vibes. I don’t like it. If you intend it as a mercy then give them a care package and a direction first.
And once again, elves win.
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The best slaves are the disposable ones.
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>>11570436
the solution i came up with if someone forced me to blow them is to trick me first use a mouth numbing spray then switch between dildo and real so i would never know for sure if biting is a good idea. not that i would ever do that.
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>>11570495
If I was properly motivated, I wouldn't ever think of biting. Like, what is that going to gain me? I'll still be bound up, and now I'll probably just get beat to death because losing a dick isn't a fatal blow. Fear is what is used to keep from biting, but it's a fine line because you don't want your slave to wish for death.
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>>11569309
Same, girl

>>11569342
I like the idea of being kept in something like picrel.
At any time I could be remanded to spend days or weeks locked as such, a hard one-way viewing pane slid over the top grate so I'm locked into a cold, hard, dark box with no idea when I'll be let out. It's not a punishment, but rather a ritual to remind me of my place - that I am owed no comfort, and even such minor luxuries as being allowed to stand up or not be freezing cold are privileges that may be revoked freely. Legally speaking, I'd be aware that no law forbids a master from putting their own slave to death - for all I know, I'm being left here to die.
It would help instill in me the proper mindset - that every moment I am allowed to serve, I should be grateful.
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>>11570503
agree that pic in a cage was exactly what i was thinking of but at some point you have to bridge the distrust gap a sort of enslavement trust falls
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>>11570504
The one way glass is a devious idea. Sure it's the usual panopticon where you have no idea if Master is watching you or not, but realistically what are you going to do? Try and fail to struggle against your bonds? Try and fail to touch yourself? It's basically just so he can get a look at you if he feels like it, nothing more.

I enjoy the idea of boxing up a slave in there and just leaving her to her thoughts. Master could just leave her in there, she does exist entirely at his mercy. Whose to say that he's ever coming back? It being a ritual to instill the right mindset in a slave rather than a punishment is a good idea too. In that moment, her entire world depends on Master caring enough about her to haul her back out. Every moment spent in service to him should be cherished, as she is keenly aware of every second she spends suffering without him in there.
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>>11570504
>randomly get "boxed up" so that I can "know the value of devotion to Master"
>Master will just grab me and stuff me in that horrible thing for a few hours
>or a few days
>food and water have a way to come in, I was kept on bare minimum rations for a week this one time
>every time I get out it is crystal clear what my purpose in life is
>it is Master
>nothing else matters

It's a shame that I don't really have any images but I'm actually liking the idea of this as something like "attitude adjustment" rather than punishment.
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>>11570518
See, even the panopticon part is just icing on the cake. There aren't "rules" for me to obey during my confinement; the restraints ensure that no rule-breaking is possible. The one-way glass does allow my owner to observe my plight, but it's not a "utility" in the usual sense to enforce any behavior.
The cage is not a way to ensure that I behave properly. It's a ritual that reminds me that I'm property and have no rights, no comforts.
Imagine a cage like picrel (honestly much better than my last one, I was having trouble finding something good). Sure, it's uncomfortable, but if you look closer, you can see that there are several elements of her confinement that are "unnecessary". such as the bar over her arms - binding her arms makes sense to prevent masturbation, but the rod between her arms and back? That has no purpose other than to inflict more discomfort. The collar and the gag, too - they're not on there for the captor's pleasure, but rather for the captive's discomfort.
The cage is a place for me to reflect, and to remember that my owner has power over me. The relationship is entirely one-sided. It is not a negotiation. My flesh will be abused and my mind will be shackled.

>>11570527
"Attitude adjustment" is good... something to remind me when I might be getting uppity.
Perhaps there would be some element of religion, too - like I'm a slave because of some sin in my past life, and if I behave I may be reborn as a human. The reflection cage is there to remind me of my place.
I also like the idea that if my master leaves for a week, I'd just get shut in the cage... to remind me that the world only exists when I'm being allowed to serve.
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>>11570533
you clearly understand what you are. All that discomfort is a demonstration of your status. Every breath you take is because of who owns you, every movement is one taken under his orders. A slave does not choose anything, it has no right to agency, it is better if it is not even given the choice to disobey.

>Perhaps there would be some element of religion, too - like I'm a slave because of some sin in my past life, and if I behave I may be reborn as a human. The reflection cage is there to remind me of my place.

I would say that slaves have a soul that is in need of domination, and without it they would simply hurt themselves and others. Putting your entire world in chains is a way to stop whatever you are in your next life from ending up the same way. Perhaps you were a sinner in your past life, perhaps merely another slave that didn't understand who she existed for. The only thing that matters is that a slave lives for a real person so that their soul can be redeemed and fill a real person's body the next time around.

Honestly slaves in general tend to get really spiritual so coming up with some slave religion to assist in brainwashing is worthwhile, even if it is all just fiction. They'll have plenty of long agonizing hours to reflect on just how real the pain is and how they must redeem themselves by being of flawless service the moment they are allowed back into Master's world regardless.
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>>11570436
>>11570438
i was thinking a ring gag would be forced into their mouth, and at the end our captor would savagely beat her for every tooth mark left in it. i didn't mention it, because i wouldn't be able to hear the gag being inserted from the suitcase i'm trapped in, but i would see the aftermath after Master is done with her, and i'm dragged out by my hair to lick the slave clean

>>11570518
>>11570504
panopticons are more for when you're ordered to hold stress positions, but have the freedom to relax and drop it.
Yes it aches holding it like that, but you have no idea if Master is watching or not, so it's too dangerous to drop it
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I've been hanging around this thread too much. Had a nightmare last night that I was doing some supposedly light bdsm and as soon as I was bound, gagged, and blinded whoever was doing it to me just started to beat the shit out of me. And then fucking crammed me in a box and I fucking freaked out. Woke up covered in sweat.
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>>11570495
>>11570503
>>11570646
High risk, low reward for anything less than a perfectly trained slave. Easier to just put the gag on and sidestep the issue entirely.
Besides, I love how they look. If your role as a slave means you don't need to do any talking, then wearing it makes it clear your mouth is only useful for one thing. I'd probably keep most of my slaves in one, with a dildo locked in whenever they aren't being fed or servicing me.

>>11570504
>>11570527
>>11570533
Cages can work as punishment sometimes, but if a slave needs to be tortured I much prefer to do it with my own two hands. I'd use them for storage, if there's slaves who I know won't have work to do for more than a couple of hours then they go in the box. Light- and soundproof, only big enough to curl up in, with a very thin layer of padding on all sides. Shock collar set to storage mode, where any movement or sound above a very low threshold activates the collar, so all you can do is hold still and try not to breathe too loud.
I can't keep you in there for too long without causing clots, so you'll just have to hold everything in, but if you make a mess then you get to stay in there for a few more days.
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Adjustable cage, so your slave only gets as much room as she needs.
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>>11570961
was it really a nightmare if you liked it?
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>>11569577
Oh yeah, it's a slippery slope, first you start to feel like losing control might be nice and the next thing you know, you're fantasizing about being stripped of all rights and reduced to an object.

>>11569578
Not many gay men I know of interested in women but I'd take it.

>>11569607
Oh I'd be receptive to it until the harsh reality sets in and I realize that the torment and torture is just non-stop and there's no safeword. Being completely okay with what's inflicted on me would probably be boring for my owner.

Ideally I'd be owned by a couple, they'd both get their very different desires fulfilled by the same slave. Both extremely cruel but in different ways.
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>>11570990
Boxes scare me. Like that would be my ultimate deterrent. Especially these tight boxes. I would fucking do anything to keep from being locked in. Anything.
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>>11569443
That pic is actually historically accurate. Ancient romans used to pay a good price for slaves captured from northern europe with blonde hair and blue eyes. They were usually made into sex slaves too for the entire house
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An important part of getting a new slave is methodically torturing them in as many ways as you can and carefully noting their reactions, so you know exactly what to threaten them with when they misbehave, or how to completely and totally break them.
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>>11571102
Would you torture them just for fun as well?
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>>11571104
Only if they weren't otherwise useful. You can't have a proper slave maid break down sobbing every time you look at her, but if I had the money and space for extra slaves I'd probably have one or two dedicated torture toys.
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>>11571106
What sorts of things would you do to them that you wouldn't do to normal slaves?
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>>11570646
I like the stress position idea too - making me work to torment myself even though I'm in agony.

>>11570974
I was actually imagining this last night too but I couldn't find a good pic of it.
After a week in a small cage, I might feel the mechanism making sound, and begin to breathe a sign of relief - only to stifle my scream as the metal grate of my cage starts to press in against my body. I feel like I'm going to die from the compression and yet it keeps going further and then finally it stops and I let out a whimper, knowing that I have no right to complain.
I look longingly at the empty space that reaches out before me that I used to occupy. It now goes totally unused, a reminder of my helplessness. The empty space serves no one - it has been taken from simply to remind me of my place, that I am not entitled to even that which goes unused by humans.
Compared to your pic though I like the idea of it being more vertical. Instead of compressing me sideways, it would be vertical, forcing me into a crouch. Perhaps I'd be embedded in a hole in the ground, and a grate would be lowered in to deny me the space above me which I would use to stand.
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>>11571116
Who's asking?
Things that let me be as much of a sadist as I want without worrying about the consequences (except maybe the price of a replacement slave.)
>tying her down with her legs in a split and putting her in a sensory deprivation hood, then whipping her cunt without warning once every couple of hours
>waterboarding, garroting, and other breathplay, until she stops struggling
>inserting things of increasing size, far past what's safe
>set her up in a rigid frame, with a funnel connected to her gag, and make all the other slaves use her as a urinal
Ideally my other slaves would be a mix of ones who are terrified of being next, and ones who like to find new and creative ways to torture her.

>>11571159
One of my ideas is an oubliette with stepped walls such that three or four cages of decreasing size can be lowered in. The lowest and smallest section, probably only 20 inches on a side, doesn't even need a cage, it's just blocked off by the cages above it. You'd be put into that lowest section, with the empty cages above you. It actually took a decent amount of extra work to remove and reinsert the other cages, but you'll be in there a few days and I want the upper cages free in case I need to put a slave in there for a few hours.
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>>11571284
Maybe make it so slaves who don't come up with a fun way to torture her become the next victim?
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>>11571285
Probably not, if I buy a slave for a given purpose I won't expect her to do anything else, assuming she keeps up with her duties. If she does that, and wants nothing to do with the dungeon, then that's her prerogative.
However, if she starts falling behind, I'd take her downstairs and make her whip the torture slave for a while, then show her listings for house slaves just like her. They usually get the message. This works especially well if the current torture toy is a former co-slave of hers.
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God damn. I'm anon who had the nightmare about being kidnapped. Late last night I got hit up by a Dom, but I was too sleepy to start talking to him, and I had been drinking so I just went to bed. This morning I look at his profile and his #1 kink is abduction play...
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>>11569915
I know someone who has done this with VR glasses, and it's very depersonalizing.
I like keeping my neko slave in the dark, though. She seems to enjoy it too.
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>>11571405
oops meant for >>11569978
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New thread when?
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Anyone know the name of that one artist that draws girls that are taken in by the government for public service and are stripped naked and walked by chains.
He has a couple images, one of which is when they're lined up and washed by a power hose, he has a memorable comic in which a girl is conscripted in front of a pair of her friends and there are a couple others. His name is m-something, he's Japanese.
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>>11571496
>https://exhentai.org/g/3935471/fac35befec/
yukimuramaru?
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>>11571405
>keeping my neko slave in the dark
Nekos probably do better in the dark than other slaves.
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>>11569607
Idk if im a hardcore masochist but something about my brain really want me to find out in a way i cant go back from..
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>>11571496
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/17154804

There's a few profiles on pixiv that uploads their stuff but I bookmarked that one a while back when I first found it. You'll have to go back to the second page to start seeing most of the really good slavery images they've made though.

There is a lot more than just those couple images that often get reposted in this thread. It's some of the best slavery art out there.
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>>11570969
If you as the Master like the look of ring gags, then the entire discussion is moot.
Would you consider russian roulette? Where a bunch of fresh acquisitions are bound, and kneeling, but ungagged. You order your male slaves to put their dicks in our mouth, whilst you and your esteemed guests bet on which ones will bite.

>dildo locked in
Would you do inspections, where you take it out, and punish us for every fresh toothmark you find in it?

>>11570994
Couples are perfect, and not just for the inevitable cuckqueening


>>11571378
Do you ever try and control it in safe ways, like just lying in an empty suitcase, and imagining the scenario whilst trying not to panic attack

>>11571159
Somebody posted a video of that on here before, of a faked kidnapping, and imprisonment like that. Her face after she realised they weren't getting her out, but merely lowering the grate was one of the hottest things I've ever seen
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>>11571738
He's not the original. He just adapted the original guys works. If you go to that guy's first picture in the set he links you to the original guy. The original guy's story goes a lot further and he is still working on worldbuilding. Although his last upload on Pixiv was in February his Fanbox is still going strong and you can look up his story series on sadpanda.

https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/62727011
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>>11571809
That makes loads of sense why I saw multiple profiles. I found that one before but I never bookmarked it. That is a solved problem now.

Also whichever slave is responsible for not making a new thread is either going to be disposed of or sold to a bunch of gobs for her failure.
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>>11571796
>Do you ever try and control it in safe ways, like just lying in an empty suitcase, and imagining the scenario whilst trying not to panic attack
No, but that's a good idea. I'm fine in tight open things like a small cage with bars, but if it's totally closed off I freak out. I'll have to try to push past it.
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Anybody planning on making a new thread?
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>>11552805
New thread:
>>11572883
>>11572883
>>11572883
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>>11564490
Whats this rubbish



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