Classic World Building Questions:>1) What setting would you choose for your scenario? Modern? Fantasy? Sci-fi? Based in reality?>2) What's the main supply of slaves?>3) In case of mass enslavement, how are new slaves kept and trained to ensure they won't rebel or disrupt the society?Questions for Masters/Mistresses:>1) How do you want your slave(s) to view you/feel about you?>2) Would you consider training new slaves in groups or pairs?>3) Would you train slaves with a history before enslavement, like friends, lovers, enemies, etc?>4) What general feelings would you want your slaves to have towards each other? Competition? Jealously? Hierarchical obedience? Affection? Partnership?Questions for slaves:>1) How would you get adjusted to a new Master, or your life as a slave?>2) Would your Master assign the duty of training you to another trusted slave, training you himself, or train you with another slave?>3) If trained in a group or as a pair, who is the other slave? Your friend, your enemy, your lover, etc.>4) What training will you be put through?Questions for Switches:>1) Are your Master and slave fantasies always separate, or do you like to imagine role reversals?>2) Are there differences in how you would treat your slave(s) vs. how you imagine being treated as a slave?Last thread:>>11552805*******************************No judging here! Post whatever you want relevant to the thread topic.*******************************Archive links:https://desuarchive.org/d/search/subject/Slavery/https://archived.moe/d/search/subject/Slavery/
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>>11572895Turning slaves into combat dolls, but also controlling their minds so they take a back seat in their own body!If they prove themselves maybe they can earn their way into purely sexual duties!
>1) How do you want your slave(s) to view you/feel about you?Lovey dovey, no thoughts, only Master>2) Would you consider training new slaves in groups or pairs?Probably not, each would complicate the process for ohe other>3) Would you train slaves with a history before enslavement, like friends, lovers, enemies, etc?Friends, FWBs, Lovers, you already know what they like and need. Slaves with executive dysfunction love to have Master think for them, because planning is stressful for them. Having no say in the plan takes the load off them. The less information they have, the happier they are. They're not dumb, but screw up in ways dumb slaves don't.>4) What general feelings would you want your slaves to have towards each other? Competition? Jealously? Hierarchical obedience? Affection? Partnership?I've never had more than one
>>11572883I made a rpg maker game were your character gets captured and sold when you lose. Kinda like didnapper (if you have played that game) but way bigger focus on getting sold and forced to do stuff as a slave. Also worse art, I'm not an artist so I had to take art from someone else which looks good but only shows the face (would like to some day get someone to make full body art).Feel free to try it out if you want to play a game where you can get captured as a slave and need to escape.https://username022.itch.io/enslaved
>>11572898I love girls inside complicated machines.
>>11572883I'm a sadist, so my training would be rape and torture till stockholm syndrome sets in. Or even if it doesn't. Who cares? The trick is not to break them too early. It's not as fun if they don't scream.
>>11569670>>11569795>>11570401This "slippery slope" stuff is not true. Or, like, there is a shred of truth to it, but it is not true in the way it's presented. I also play Yugioh. And like any good social hobby it can be addictive because there is depth to it, and you have a really good time, meet new friends, want to spend time with them to explore that depth, and end up thinking about it more and more until it consumes you.Perhaps there is a fetish appeal to this. But we don't talk about how Yugioh can cripple your future and end you in a blink. And actually, in either case, I have no idea wtf you are talking about. Like, what? How? How would it end you? I don't think that's something that happens in real life. I do know people who have used their dynamic as an unhealthy coping mechanism, and some really bad rope accidents, there are risks, but they're not the type of risks you're talking about.Most of my friends who are the most into kink also have a day job and are all around functional human beings. Usually ones with a lot of trauma, getting through normal life day by day, but functional humans regardless.I think people tend to to get caught up on the word "Slave." It gestures in a direction, but no one really agrees on what it means. People think it means the same thing to others as it does to them. But in real life opinions are extremely varied, and it is up to every individual and their play partner(s) to decide what it means, or if another word might be better.Source: I do a lot of bdsm stuff irl, was a full-time submissive for three months, and also have a bunch of experience training submissives myself. My friends send their partners to me for training sessions. I've talked about my experience going full time in previous threads, although not so much recently and I've not said much about training stuff. So, AMA I guess.
>>11572960>I also play Yugioh>My friends send their partners to me for training sessionsLMAO chill epicmaster420 we get it you're cool af
>>11572898That presenter looks nervous as hell. Worried about ending up as one of the slaves? That's really hot.
>>11573010I've not met a ton of yugioh players that were not complete losers, it might have been a bad analogy. Kinda undermines my point. But I think the overall argument still stands.
Ive tried to find someome to make me their slave on soc but they are always so far away and I have no idea how to make a months long talking stage last with this dynamic. Im scared to look locally because what if I have to interact with one of the people that sees my profile irl oneday.
>>11572960I think more what that slave is getting at is that they see themselves becoming extremely attached to their owner as unavoidable, and that this relationship ending for any reason would lead to such unbearable mental anguish that they wouldn't want to keep living. she can feel free to correct me but y'know, I was that person in the middle more concerned about how that girl is obviously not eating right, aswell as understanding about how the anxiety would seep into someone's brain when they have to present as normal in normal life after spending any time at all as the kind of slave they have in their fantasies. You're also posting on 4chan where most people are in like a semi-permanent mental breakdown and are scared to go outside, so having touched grass makes you a bit more qualified on understanding how people work. Imagine you're talking to sentient elementals of pure mental illness, that's what I feel like most days. >>11573161Yeah...I tried to get girls local to me but I honestly think I'm far less good at being social than I thought. Being a dom I'm way less concerned about the anxiety from being found out so I can see how if you're submissive going long distance can feel like a better deal, the closest I did get to engaging with this dynamic was with a girl long distance that just saw me posting on this thread once, but well, it's been tough. If I had a solution to agoraphobia and social anxiety I wouldn't be posting on 4chan.
Is it really slavery if she asked for the collar? Is it really slavery if someone insist in telling you her kidnapping fantasies and you finally decide to have some fun?
>>11573183Yes. Maybe your horny submissive friend thinks otherwise but thinking is for people, and she forfeited the right to be a person when she woke up in a cage instead of a bed one morning.
>>11573185>thinking is for people, and she forfeited the right to be a person when she woke up in a cage instead of a bed one morningI really like your line of thinking, but kidnapping sounds like a chore nowadays, and very expensive. Blackmailing feels more appropiate for the XXI Century, but it's just not the same.
>>11573190Fun tip: A fully subjugated slave has no good way of actually knowing if the blackmail has been burned or not. The rest of her life is nude toil and worship, you can just tell her you made sure that her friends and family all know what she is, or just do it and never tell her, how would she really know?
>>11573192That sound so good. >The rest of her life is nude toil and worshipThat sounds even better!But there is not metal collar to permanently remind her of her place, no jail cell to keep her safely locked, no whipping post to mold her to your liking... What's the point and the fun of all that if she's going to spend 80% of her life out there pretending she's still a human being?
>>11573199It's a awful idea to try to make these things pretend to be human. Its not good for them, not good for people, not good for anyone. When she feels the cold embrace of her collar every time she breathes, when she can already feel the pain from the whip just seeing it in Master's hands, when every thought at every moment is about Master, His life, and her service underneath it, that is when a slave is truly at peace.
>>11572960i was just voicing some of my thoughts as a slave myself not stating some grand axiom i agree with You there can be high functioning slaves that mix and compartmentalize their job, social life and kinks and live somewhat normal lives then there are the slaves who commit themselves to their Owner say a live in maid who also functions to please then back into their cage. i relate more with the latter and in this scenario if the relationship ends -this is what i mean not death related- the slave is left with a lot of uncertainty not something you can put on a resume for example, handing the slave to someone else would the better option. to each thir own i guess.>>11573177this Anon gets it
>>11572914My dream game would be a rpg game thats totally normal if you just play it through, but there's massive a slavery side quest/bad end that's way bigger than the main story. Like if beating the game takes ~20 hours, the slavery path is ~30 hours. And by the end of that path you're just a weak mind broken lvl 1 slave who has faithfully served her Master for years already, and some npc did the main quest and became the celebrated hero while you were being trained and slowly losing your strength and humanity.
>>11573177>becoming extremely attachedI can see what you mean. I think it's extremely irresponsible though, on both sides, to pursue such a thing. I have turned submissives down for this reason in the past. I refuse to put myself in a situation where I could leave someone broken with no way to put them back together again.It's also useful to plan, from the start, how to keep each other safe at the end of the relationship. It's important that you both talk to other people, have other friends, etc. D/s plays with higher stakes, so it's important to have a support network to rely on if things do go bad.>You're also posting on 4chanI should have calibrated to less grass-touching, you're right.>>11573285>say a live in maidSure, a live-in maid. This is pretty similar to what I did when I was full time. I took care of the cooking and cleaning and shopping and errands for three people. This is work and requires a bunch of grass-touching. You can't just sit in your nice comfy cage all day. You have to get out of your cage and make yourself presentable to make life better for your master/mistress. And do so proactively, so they also have time to use you later. You end up as a very functional adult.But if by "maid" you mean "sex slave confined to a cage" then yeah. I don't imagine that would require a ton of agency, mostly just waiting to see what they do to you next. Still, that doesn't mean you can't return to normal life.Resume gaps are an interesting topic. But it can be explained away in one way or another. You can say "I took a break to take care of my partner" and then make up a reason.
>>11573020First rule of industrialized slavery scenarios is that the women most in danger of becoming slaves are members of the business/state doing it, then reporters doing it, then spies trying to investigate it.The Second rule is that their employers always bribe the slavers to do it, and their reasons for visiting are just parts of the trap.
>"Hello, master. I see you're quite pent up. But do not worry. As the rest of our teams shall guard you tonight, the four of us humble ninjas have won the priviledge of serving your sexual desires, provided you find us worthy, of course.">"Tee hee! It seems you do! Thanks master! We will not disappoint you!"
>>11573020>That presenter looks nervous as hell.She should be. Perfect caution is the only thing keeping her from wandering into the wrong place, or even accidentally having a hand inside the red line, and being grabbed by one of the machines and sent along.
>>11572898I really like standardized, mass produced slavery where the final products act basically identical. Their original personality is overwritten by whatever harsh training they were given.
>>11573020>>11573619>women most in danger of becoming slaves are members of the business/state doing itThat's the fun part!In public everyone can see that men & women have been turned into Doll slaves and given their implants/conditioning.It's that perfect "daily horrors I hope it's not me next" type feeling even if you owned a sex doll you know it "was a person" before.Maybe some anons plotted to have people they know dolled up and bought them later?>>11573645>standardized, mass produced slaveryLeaning into the Dystopia play is free people know it could be them.Slave system needs bodies so there's many rules/loop holes to getting enslaved...
>>11573020> Worried about ending up as one of the slaves? That's really hot.She is wearing a collar this isn't a worried look its the look of a slave who has bad memories of this machine
>>11573020I like the system of arbitrary and universal temporary slavery. Much in the style of Yukimuramaru or even fest, tho I'd personally extend it and remove the slave caste. Hell, I'd even make it apply for both sexes.Think (in addition to criminals and volunteers) something like 5% of every generation randomly, at birth, being assigned slavery at some point in their life. You might get picked up at 18, you may get picked up at 35. You may serve for 12 months, you may serve for 10 years. You may be a twink, getting railed on the other end of the country for a year, you may be a mother that gets put into a public use booth in front of your children's university for a decade.
>>11573192Break her enough that the reward is showing the blackmail off.
My favorite settings are the ones where slavery is hereditary and inescapable, where there is nothing a slave can possibly do to become free and nothing a free person could do to become a slave. Like enforced by magic or some kind of visible breeding mark.
>Though Lunalights are a rather secluded tribe of female-only beast demi-humans known for their work as bodyguards and entertainers and they’re known to have sex with men they guard or entertain, for extra money or simple fun, they rarely have children with them.>Usually, they choose men among the warriors they fight. Whether it is for trespassing their territory, attacking their employer(s), or being chosen as their assassination target, a male that has proven his worth in strength and spirit will be captured and brought to their tribe’s current accomodation for their mating rituals. This is an essential part of their contracts with any would-be employer.>Though depending on the reason they were captured the men are not allowed to leave, it is unheard of (unknown whether it truly never happens or due to hiding the truth) that the Lunalights force themselves on their new slaves. Seduction is a big part of their culture and to be so unappealing as to need to force herself onto a man is seen as a disgrace for a woman.>The men are brought into decorated chambers where their captors, dressed in clothes more suited for a sex slave rather than a slaver and wearing the tribes well-known perfume, gracefully perform their world-renowned dances and offer them freshly caught and cooked game meat, cold fruit juices and breast milk, milked from the the tribe’s women right in front of the men. The male slaves are held in place, not by cuffs or chains, but by the women, pressing their chest on them and whispering temptations in their ears: Asking them if they want to breed, taunting them to plow the dancers, begging them for their babies.
>>11573619Even as a free woman, you're never truly free, Gotta keep watching your back all the time, knowing you could end up a slave if you so much as in the wrong place at the wrong time.I like my slavery settings to have a system designed to only enslave people as punishment for crimes and the like but it's flawed enough that someone could just kidnap you, put you in bondage and no one really questions it. Being kept gagged so you can't tell anyone that you're not a legal slave, not that they'd believe you anyway and even if you did find someone who cared enough to investigate it, your 'owner' can just bribe them with your body.Probably makes it even more torturous to know that you didn't even do anything wrong.
>>11574517>Once the man gives the yes, the mating quickly, though equally as gracefully as the seduction, begins. The Lunalights are usually the ones on top, though it’s not unheard of them to also go for bottom positions. The slave remains almost always held by the women during the mating, guiding his movements and moaning while pleasuring themselves in preparation for their turn. He’s also constantly served “boosters” to remain “fully active” throughout the orgy. The rituals normally starts at dusk and end at dawn.>It is worth noting that the opposite scenario, though rare (according to them), can also happen: Defeated Lunalights will usually offer themselves to the victorious men and beg for their lives, offering sex in exchange for them. Though a proud warrior race, this isn’t seen as a disgrace. On the contrary to save their lives through seduction is seen as proof of their beauty and to add the genes of a man better than them to the tribe’s genepool is seen as an honour. In fact there are women among Dancer family, the strongest one among the tribe, that boast about being daughters born of and/or mothers impregnated by such defeats.
>>11573638If the machines could grab at unsuspecting passerby that place would be shut down after the first incident, that's just a plainly unsafe working environment. Everything happens with purpose here.She's nervous because the customer might ask for a live processing demo and she knows corporate won't let her say no.>>11574332>>11574518This sounds fun for a minute but if you expand on it at all, you just end up with a slave revolt in like a week.I'd imagine a system with some kind of universal physical/personality/aptitude testing, with a limited appeal system. Anyone who's small, weak, and submissive gets enslaved. If anyone objects, they can petition a panel of judges, although the initial test is accurate enough that very few petitions are ever filed.This means that both slaves and free people can look at each other and confidently say that they belong where they are.
A war horse, baby, a war horse, baby...love those funky hooves!
>>11574769>I'd imagine a system with some kind of universal physical/personality/aptitude testing, with a limited appeal system. Anyone who's small, weak, and submissive gets enslaved.I love the idea of a girl passing the test but is secretly a hardcore masochist. She masturbates on the idea of being enslaved. And then one day she goes to the government offices to file a complaint that the test made a mistake...
>>11575186>I love the idea of a girl passing the test but is secretly a hardcore masochist. She masturbates on the idea of being enslaved.https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/109958596/artworksTry reading "A young girl's school life" here. It's AI pics but it's got effort and heart put into it.
>>11574769I think I prefer the ambiguity, the line between free person and slave being so thin that it's basically non-existent. Even if you're not a slave you're not free of the system. A rigid system seems less fun, the flexibility and unpredictability is what makes it so exciting. Also I'd imagine that slavery isn't common enough that a slave revolt would even achieve much, most people would probably abhor the idea but are too afraid to speak out about it lest they be the next victim.
>>11575186>>11575469The system would always take volunteers who pass the physical portion of the test, but her first few weeks as a slave would likely be a battery of psychological exams to figure out how exactly the test missed her. Quite a few of the happiest slaves were themselves surprised at the results of their test, so a false negative would be a cause for concern.
>>11573020That's a big fantasy of mine... To be a leading woman in the slave trade, thinking I'm better than all the broken slave girls I sell.But then one day a man I'm selling to knocks me out, and when I wake up I'm shackled and on a leash like a slave. And over the following months Im broken in and trained until Im fully broken and happy knowing my true place as masters slave...~
>>11573535You can kinda get close to that with modded Skyrim. The slaverun mod seems like it could go on for a long time. Also the characters and animations can look pretty good. But I didn't like how repetitive it was, just go over here for sex animation over and over, I'm sure other people might not mind. Your character can get whipped but it feels like just another animation as it doesn't effect gameplay. That is what I was hoping to change with this small game. If your character gets whipped HP drops so it is harder to escape. Hopefully the player doesn't want to be whipped like the character wouldn't but they often don't have a choice. At least that was one of the goals of the game.But if you haven't played modded Skyrim I recommend checking it out. Small pain to get started though.
>>11575712>but they often don't have a choiceWell, you could always add a submissive path/choices.
