Classic World Building Questions:>1) What setting would you choose for your scenario? Modern? Fantasy? Sci-fi? Based in reality?>2) What's the main supply of slaves?>3) In case of mass enslavement, how are new slaves kept and trained to ensure they won't rebel or disrupt the society?Questions for Masters/Mistresses:>1) How do you want your slave(s) to view you/feel about you?>2) Would you consider training new slaves in groups or pairs?>3) Would you train slaves with a history before enslavement, like friends, lovers, enemies, etc?>4) What general feelings would you want your slaves to have towards each other? Competition? Jealously? Hierarchical obedience? Affection? Partnership?Questions for slaves:>1) How would you get adjusted to a new Master, or your life as a slave?>2) Would your Master assign the duty of training you to another trusted slave, training you himself, or train you with another slave?>3) If trained in a group or as a pair, who is the other slave? Your friend, your enemy, your lover, etc.>4) What training will you be put through?Questions for Switches:>1) Are your Master and slave fantasies always separate, or do you like to imagine role reversals?>2) Are there differences in how you would treat your slave(s) vs. how you imagine being treated as a slave?Last thread:>>11552805*******************************No judging here! Post whatever you want relevant to the thread topic.*******************************Archive links:https://desuarchive.org/d/search/subject/Slavery/https://archived.moe/d/search/subject/Slavery/
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>>11572895Turning slaves into combat dolls, but also controlling their minds so they take a back seat in their own body!If they prove themselves maybe they can earn their way into purely sexual duties!
>1) How do you want your slave(s) to view you/feel about you?Lovey dovey, no thoughts, only Master>2) Would you consider training new slaves in groups or pairs?Probably not, each would complicate the process for ohe other>3) Would you train slaves with a history before enslavement, like friends, lovers, enemies, etc?Friends, FWBs, Lovers, you already know what they like and need. Slaves with executive dysfunction love to have Master think for them, because planning is stressful for them. Having no say in the plan takes the load off them. The less information they have, the happier they are. They're not dumb, but screw up in ways dumb slaves don't.>4) What general feelings would you want your slaves to have towards each other? Competition? Jealously? Hierarchical obedience? Affection? Partnership?I've never had more than one
>>11572883I made a rpg maker game were your character gets captured and sold when you lose. Kinda like didnapper (if you have played that game) but way bigger focus on getting sold and forced to do stuff as a slave. Also worse art, I'm not an artist so I had to take art from someone else which looks good but only shows the face (would like to some day get someone to make full body art).Feel free to try it out if you want to play a game where you can get captured as a slave and need to escape.https://username022.itch.io/enslaved
>>11572898I love girls inside complicated machines.
>>11572883I'm a sadist, so my training would be rape and torture till stockholm syndrome sets in. Or even if it doesn't. Who cares? The trick is not to break them too early. It's not as fun if they don't scream.
>>11569670>>11569795>>11570401This "slippery slope" stuff is not true. Or, like, there is a shred of truth to it, but it is not true in the way it's presented. I also play Yugioh. And like any good social hobby it can be addictive because there is depth to it, and you have a really good time, meet new friends, want to spend time with them to explore that depth, and end up thinking about it more and more until it consumes you.Perhaps there is a fetish appeal to this. But we don't talk about how Yugioh can cripple your future and end you in a blink. And actually, in either case, I have no idea wtf you are talking about. Like, what? How? How would it end you? I don't think that's something that happens in real life. I do know people who have used their dynamic as an unhealthy coping mechanism, and some really bad rope accidents, there are risks, but they're not the type of risks you're talking about.Most of my friends who are the most into kink also have a day job and are all around functional human beings. Usually ones with a lot of trauma, getting through normal life day by day, but functional humans regardless.I think people tend to to get caught up on the word "Slave." It gestures in a direction, but no one really agrees on what it means. People think it means the same thing to others as it does to them. But in real life opinions are extremely varied, and it is up to every individual and their play partner(s) to decide what it means, or if another word might be better.Source: I do a lot of bdsm stuff irl, was a full-time submissive for three months, and also have a bunch of experience training submissives myself. My friends send their partners to me for training sessions. I've talked about my experience going full time in previous threads, although not so much recently and I've not said much about training stuff. So, AMA I guess.
>>11572960>I also play Yugioh>My friends send their partners to me for training sessionsLMAO chill epicmaster420 we get it you're cool af
>>11572898That presenter looks nervous as hell. Worried about ending up as one of the slaves? That's really hot.
>>11573010I've not met a ton of yugioh players that were not complete losers, it might have been a bad analogy. Kinda undermines my point. But I think the overall argument still stands.
Ive tried to find someome to make me their slave on soc but they are always so far away and I have no idea how to make a months long talking stage last with this dynamic. Im scared to look locally because what if I have to interact with one of the people that sees my profile irl oneday.
>>11572960I think more what that slave is getting at is that they see themselves becoming extremely attached to their owner as unavoidable, and that this relationship ending for any reason would lead to such unbearable mental anguish that they wouldn't want to keep living. she can feel free to correct me but y'know, I was that person in the middle more concerned about how that girl is obviously not eating right, aswell as understanding about how the anxiety would seep into someone's brain when they have to present as normal in normal life after spending any time at all as the kind of slave they have in their fantasies. You're also posting on 4chan where most people are in like a semi-permanent mental breakdown and are scared to go outside, so having touched grass makes you a bit more qualified on understanding how people work. Imagine you're talking to sentient elementals of pure mental illness, that's what I feel like most days. >>11573161Yeah...I tried to get girls local to me but I honestly think I'm far less good at being social than I thought. Being a dom I'm way less concerned about the anxiety from being found out so I can see how if you're submissive going long distance can feel like a better deal, the closest I did get to engaging with this dynamic was with a girl long distance that just saw me posting on this thread once, but well, it's been tough. If I had a solution to agoraphobia and social anxiety I wouldn't be posting on 4chan.
Is it really slavery if she asked for the collar? Is it really slavery if someone insist in telling you her kidnapping fantasies and you finally decide to have some fun?
>>11573183Yes. Maybe your horny submissive friend thinks otherwise but thinking is for people, and she forfeited the right to be a person when she woke up in a cage instead of a bed one morning.
>>11573185>thinking is for people, and she forfeited the right to be a person when she woke up in a cage instead of a bed one morningI really like your line of thinking, but kidnapping sounds like a chore nowadays, and very expensive. Blackmailing feels more appropiate for the XXI Century, but it's just not the same.
>>11573190Fun tip: A fully subjugated slave has no good way of actually knowing if the blackmail has been burned or not. The rest of her life is nude toil and worship, you can just tell her you made sure that her friends and family all know what she is, or just do it and never tell her, how would she really know?
>>11573192That sound so good. >The rest of her life is nude toil and worshipThat sounds even better!But there is not metal collar to permanently remind her of her place, no jail cell to keep her safely locked, no whipping post to mold her to your liking... What's the point and the fun of all that if she's going to spend 80% of her life out there pretending she's still a human being?
>>11573199It's a awful idea to try to make these things pretend to be human. Its not good for them, not good for people, not good for anyone. When she feels the cold embrace of her collar every time she breathes, when she can already feel the pain from the whip just seeing it in Master's hands, when every thought at every moment is about Master, His life, and her service underneath it, that is when a slave is truly at peace.
>>11572960i was just voicing some of my thoughts as a slave myself not stating some grand axiom i agree with You there can be high functioning slaves that mix and compartmentalize their job, social life and kinks and live somewhat normal lives then there are the slaves who commit themselves to their Owner say a live in maid who also functions to please then back into their cage. i relate more with the latter and in this scenario if the relationship ends -this is what i mean not death related- the slave is left with a lot of uncertainty not something you can put on a resume for example, handing the slave to someone else would the better option. to each thir own i guess.>>11573177this Anon gets it
>>11572914My dream game would be a rpg game thats totally normal if you just play it through, but there's massive a slavery side quest/bad end that's way bigger than the main story. Like if beating the game takes ~20 hours, the slavery path is ~30 hours. And by the end of that path you're just a weak mind broken lvl 1 slave who has faithfully served her Master for years already, and some npc did the main quest and became the celebrated hero while you were being trained and slowly losing your strength and humanity.
>>11573177>becoming extremely attachedI can see what you mean. I think it's extremely irresponsible though, on both sides, to pursue such a thing. I have turned submissives down for this reason in the past. I refuse to put myself in a situation where I could leave someone broken with no way to put them back together again.It's also useful to plan, from the start, how to keep each other safe at the end of the relationship. It's important that you both talk to other people, have other friends, etc. D/s plays with higher stakes, so it's important to have a support network to rely on if things do go bad.>You're also posting on 4chanI should have calibrated to less grass-touching, you're right.>>11573285>say a live in maidSure, a live-in maid. This is pretty similar to what I did when I was full time. I took care of the cooking and cleaning and shopping and errands for three people. This is work and requires a bunch of grass-touching. You can't just sit in your nice comfy cage all day. You have to get out of your cage and make yourself presentable to make life better for your master/mistress. And do so proactively, so they also have time to use you later. You end up as a very functional adult.But if by "maid" you mean "sex slave confined to a cage" then yeah. I don't imagine that would require a ton of agency, mostly just waiting to see what they do to you next. Still, that doesn't mean you can't return to normal life.Resume gaps are an interesting topic. But it can be explained away in one way or another. You can say "I took a break to take care of my partner" and then make up a reason.
>>11573020First rule of industrialized slavery scenarios is that the women most in danger of becoming slaves are members of the business/state doing it, then reporters doing it, then spies trying to investigate it.The Second rule is that their employers always bribe the slavers to do it, and their reasons for visiting are just parts of the trap.
>"Hello, master. I see you're quite pent up. But do not worry. As the rest of our teams shall guard you tonight, the four of us humble ninjas have won the priviledge of serving your sexual desires, provided you find us worthy, of course.">"Tee hee! It seems you do! Thanks master! We will not disappoint you!"
>>11573020>That presenter looks nervous as hell.She should be. Perfect caution is the only thing keeping her from wandering into the wrong place, or even accidentally having a hand inside the red line, and being grabbed by one of the machines and sent along.
>>11572898I really like standardized, mass produced slavery where the final products act basically identical. Their original personality is overwritten by whatever harsh training they were given.
>>11573020>>11573619>women most in danger of becoming slaves are members of the business/state doing itThat's the fun part!In public everyone can see that men & women have been turned into Doll slaves and given their implants/conditioning.It's that perfect "daily horrors I hope it's not me next" type feeling even if you owned a sex doll you know it "was a person" before.Maybe some anons plotted to have people they know dolled up and bought them later?>>11573645>standardized, mass produced slaveryLeaning into the Dystopia play is free people know it could be them.Slave system needs bodies so there's many rules/loop holes to getting enslaved...
>>11573020> Worried about ending up as one of the slaves? That's really hot.She is wearing a collar this isn't a worried look its the look of a slave who has bad memories of this machine
>>11573020I like the system of arbitrary and universal temporary slavery. Much in the style of Yukimuramaru or even fest, tho I'd personally extend it and remove the slave caste. Hell, I'd even make it apply for both sexes.Think (in addition to criminals and volunteers) something like 5% of every generation randomly, at birth, being assigned slavery at some point in their life. You might get picked up at 18, you may get picked up at 35. You may serve for 12 months, you may serve for 10 years. You may be a twink, getting railed on the other end of the country for a year, you may be a mother that gets put into a public use booth in front of your children's university for a decade.
>>11573192Break her enough that the reward is showing the blackmail off.
My favorite settings are the ones where slavery is hereditary and inescapable, where there is nothing a slave can possibly do to become free and nothing a free person could do to become a slave. Like enforced by magic or some kind of visible breeding mark.
>Though Lunalights are a rather secluded tribe of female-only beast demi-humans known for their work as bodyguards and entertainers and they’re known to have sex with men they guard or entertain, for extra money or simple fun, they rarely have children with them.>Usually, they choose men among the warriors they fight. Whether it is for trespassing their territory, attacking their employer(s), or being chosen as their assassination target, a male that has proven his worth in strength and spirit will be captured and brought to their tribe’s current accomodation for their mating rituals. This is an essential part of their contracts with any would-be employer.>Though depending on the reason they were captured the men are not allowed to leave, it is unheard of (unknown whether it truly never happens or due to hiding the truth) that the Lunalights force themselves on their new slaves. Seduction is a big part of their culture and to be so unappealing as to need to force herself onto a man is seen as a disgrace for a woman.>The men are brought into decorated chambers where their captors, dressed in clothes more suited for a sex slave rather than a slaver and wearing the tribes well-known perfume, gracefully perform their world-renowned dances and offer them freshly caught and cooked game meat, cold fruit juices and breast milk, milked from the the tribe’s women right in front of the men. The male slaves are held in place, not by cuffs or chains, but by the women, pressing their chest on them and whispering temptations in their ears: Asking them if they want to breed, taunting them to plow the dancers, begging them for their babies.
>>11573619Even as a free woman, you're never truly free, Gotta keep watching your back all the time, knowing you could end up a slave if you so much as in the wrong place at the wrong time.I like my slavery settings to have a system designed to only enslave people as punishment for crimes and the like but it's flawed enough that someone could just kidnap you, put you in bondage and no one really questions it. Being kept gagged so you can't tell anyone that you're not a legal slave, not that they'd believe you anyway and even if you did find someone who cared enough to investigate it, your 'owner' can just bribe them with your body.Probably makes it even more torturous to know that you didn't even do anything wrong.
>>11574517>Once the man gives the yes, the mating quickly, though equally as gracefully as the seduction, begins. The Lunalights are usually the ones on top, though it’s not unheard of them to also go for bottom positions. The slave remains almost always held by the women during the mating, guiding his movements and moaning while pleasuring themselves in preparation for their turn. He’s also constantly served “boosters” to remain “fully active” throughout the orgy. The rituals normally starts at dusk and end at dawn.>It is worth noting that the opposite scenario, though rare (according to them), can also happen: Defeated Lunalights will usually offer themselves to the victorious men and beg for their lives, offering sex in exchange for them. Though a proud warrior race, this isn’t seen as a disgrace. On the contrary to save their lives through seduction is seen as proof of their beauty and to add the genes of a man better than them to the tribe’s genepool is seen as an honour. In fact there are women among Dancer family, the strongest one among the tribe, that boast about being daughters born of and/or mothers impregnated by such defeats.
>>11573638If the machines could grab at unsuspecting passerby that place would be shut down after the first incident, that's just a plainly unsafe working environment. Everything happens with purpose here.She's nervous because the customer might ask for a live processing demo and she knows corporate won't let her say no.>>11574332>>11574518This sounds fun for a minute but if you expand on it at all, you just end up with a slave revolt in like a week.I'd imagine a system with some kind of universal physical/personality/aptitude testing, with a limited appeal system. Anyone who's small, weak, and submissive gets enslaved. If anyone objects, they can petition a panel of judges, although the initial test is accurate enough that very few petitions are ever filed.This means that both slaves and free people can look at each other and confidently say that they belong where they are.
A war horse, baby, a war horse, baby...love those funky hooves!
>>11574769>I'd imagine a system with some kind of universal physical/personality/aptitude testing, with a limited appeal system. Anyone who's small, weak, and submissive gets enslaved.I love the idea of a girl passing the test but is secretly a hardcore masochist. She masturbates on the idea of being enslaved. And then one day she goes to the government offices to file a complaint that the test made a mistake...
>>11575186>I love the idea of a girl passing the test but is secretly a hardcore masochist. She masturbates on the idea of being enslaved.https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/109958596/artworksTry reading "A young girl's school life" here. It's AI pics but it's got effort and heart put into it.
>>11574769I think I prefer the ambiguity, the line between free person and slave being so thin that it's basically non-existent. Even if you're not a slave you're not free of the system. A rigid system seems less fun, the flexibility and unpredictability is what makes it so exciting. Also I'd imagine that slavery isn't common enough that a slave revolt would even achieve much, most people would probably abhor the idea but are too afraid to speak out about it lest they be the next victim.
>>11575186>>11575469The system would always take volunteers who pass the physical portion of the test, but her first few weeks as a slave would likely be a battery of psychological exams to figure out how exactly the test missed her. Quite a few of the happiest slaves were themselves surprised at the results of their test, so a false negative would be a cause for concern.
>>11573020That's a big fantasy of mine... To be a leading woman in the slave trade, thinking I'm better than all the broken slave girls I sell.But then one day a man I'm selling to knocks me out, and when I wake up I'm shackled and on a leash like a slave. And over the following months Im broken in and trained until Im fully broken and happy knowing my true place as masters slave...~
>>11573535You can kinda get close to that with modded Skyrim. The slaverun mod seems like it could go on for a long time. Also the characters and animations can look pretty good. But I didn't like how repetitive it was, just go over here for sex animation over and over, I'm sure other people might not mind. Your character can get whipped but it feels like just another animation as it doesn't effect gameplay. That is what I was hoping to change with this small game. If your character gets whipped HP drops so it is harder to escape. Hopefully the player doesn't want to be whipped like the character wouldn't but they often don't have a choice. At least that was one of the goals of the game.But if you haven't played modded Skyrim I recommend checking it out. Small pain to get started though.
>>11575712>but they often don't have a choiceWell, you could always add a submissive path/choices.
>>11575665How do you see yourself treating the slave girls whilst you're still leading, and thinking you're better, and how do you expect them to treat you once you're enslaved just like them
>>11575793Definitely harshly. I'd look down on them with a sneer, thinking about how pathetic they are for breaking and being so eager to serve a man's cock. I would never stoop to such a low. I they make a mistake I'd spank them with a riding crop and degrade them. But I would use them to relieve my own stress, use them as foot rests or have them worship my ass, pussy, or feet. All the better to advertise their obedience.But once I'm enslaved... Would they even realise it is me? Anything that was 'special' about me has been ripped away as I'm put in my place as a yet another broken slavegirl among countless.... Just eager to worship my new masters cock...
I like to imagine slaves of high elves are always under insane levels of high protocol and magical enforcement.
>>11576512High Elves absolutely do NOT have slaves.Their servants took their oaths freely, in the Grove of Unbreakable Oaths.
>>11573020That kind of facility has two types of female employee:>1: The ones headed for slave processing, whether they know it or not, and>2: Particularly obedient slaves who scored high enough on an automated IQ test to be given an admin job. (She's incredibly anxious and she misses her restraints.)
>>11576551High Elves do not have other races as slaves. They merely have them as Apprentices. It's just so convenient that apprenticeship requires doing everything the mentor says at all times, and that none of the other races have lifespans to complete an apprenticeship.
>>11576059>would they even realise it is me?i think your treatment of us would definitely lead to some Pavlovian conditioning where we're still terrified of you well into your tenure as another one of Master's slaves.Even without that i think we'd still be able to recognise you after all the forced worship you inflicted, like the ghostly pale skin, fiery red hair, and the mole on the top of your left foot that you used to forced us to kiss (random examples no idea if they actually apply)i just don't know how to react to you once you are enslaved beyond the initial fear, as Master hasn't told me how to feel yet
>>11577261Lets say Im freshly enslaved. And let's say I've been tied up, gagged, blind folded. Stripped of my clothes so my holes are exposed to you, and "free use" has been written on me. And all my old "tools" I used on my slaves have been laid out in front of me.What do you do?
>try to encourage "sisterly love and cooperation" among my slaves now that I own a pair>no instead of understanding that they are both equally inferior filth one of them keeps trying to sabotage the other>slave 915 keeps on trying to get flattie in trouble>it's a good thing she's such a bottom bitch with courage as flat as her chest>it's hard for me to believe she's even capable of doing anything that requires free will>makes it especially hard to pin acts of disrespect and defiance on her
What are your opinions on orgasm denial. Personally, I'm not a big fan, both in general, because imo it goes against the point of sexual torture, that being mixing suffering with pleasure, obviously, by denying the pleasure of climax, and when it comes to most servants, as it will undoubtably make them too sloppy. With that being said the idea of combining it with sensory deprivation and sensitivity heightening and conditioning the submissives into coming even by mere thoughts sounds fun, and would be useful for dedicated sex slaves (as in simple living fucktoys not even for things like serving while wearing buttplags or other things like that).
>>11576118Fucking love strong slaves like this. Look at that hateful glare as he fucks her, pulls her hair, this man who's so far beneath her doing whatever he wants to her. And she can't do anything about it. She can imagine killing him all she wants, it's never going to happen.
>>11577641>What are your opinions on orgasm denial.It has its place, I do like it, but at a ratio of 1/3rd orgasm denial combined with 2/3rds forced orgasms.A simple practical example would be to have a maid wear a chastity belt with an inserted vibe but it's set to a low setting she can't cum to, and then push it up to maximum power when she's serving you with her mouth or in general as a 'reward'.
>>11577392Have you been enforcing mandatory lesbianism? It's important to make sure slaves serving the same master don't have barriers between them. >>11577641Orgasm control > Orgasm denial.Slaves shouldn't be allowed to masturbate. Their cunts belong to me.I am a big fan of remote vibrators under chastity belts.
>>11577301"Free" use applies to free people, not to slaves. Maybe i'd want revenge a little bit, maybe i'd compartmentalise it by saying i deserved your prior punishments for being such a disappointing slave to Master, but i don't think i'd be able to use and risk damaging Master's property without permission>>11577641>>11577762Orgasm denial and control is there to encourage the pathetic slave to humiliate itself further.Have it begging on the floor as you work it with the vibe, and allow surges from it if you are satisfied with its desperate pleading, if you feel like the slave isn't trying hard enough then you place your palm open to re-take the vibe, and lock the slave back in chastity>>11577392There are other ways to earn punishment than direct defiance. Remember the slave-anon that made a huge mess with their Chinese takeaway
>>11577770>"Free" use applies to free peopleI imagine the master would want to degrade me by making me so lowly and worthless that I'm something the slaves I thought I was superior to use.>>11575665If this scenario was the case how would any of the slave owners here break me in?
Dunno if its the same with females, but the longer I am without an orgasm the more submissive and masochistic I become, and I get some post-nut clarity and shame after cumming, like "wtf i was doing lowering myself like that". Frankly if I had someone sucking my dick every day I would never come to this thread, while I was a daily user when I was abstaining for a month. So yes any fantasy I have about slavery includes orgasm control and denial. I love and hate that feeling of desperation when I am horny and stimulated but unable to cum, and I love the unfair constrast between my Master cumming whenever they want and being satisfied and clearminded while I am kept in a horny daze where every part of their body, or even their boot touching me makes me throb. Though I heard you can get used to it after some months so Id like to be forced to cum every now and then so the horny daze is always strong...
>>11577793If the Master really said it was okay, and gave his permission.Except there would be a pause between each hit, where i am nervously looking at Master for His approval.>>11577867So you kind of need somebody in this thread to give you "release" permission just to escape here
>>11577869>So you kind of need somebody in this thread to give you "release" permission just to escape hereDont give them ideas, Or every month will be a November for me and I'll forget how it feels to have an un-ruined orgasm or one thats actually using my hands and not humping some boot...
>>11577869>Except there would be a pause between each hit, where i am nervously looking at Master for His approval.With every hit I'd react with a mix of a shriek of pain and a moan. Frustrated that a slave of all people was doing this to me, while also fighting down any inkling of pleasure I might feel from this treatment...
>>11577762>mandatory lesbianismOh they kiss and make up and are ordered to show very physical affection to each other all the time. They're just absolute besties. >>11577770>slave-anon that made a huge mess with their Chinese takeawayThat wasn't the worst, she's just clumsy and of bad service a lot of the time. Honestly it doesn't feel right to give her more than a couple lashes or hard slaps and some scolding for that, she's still trying her best. Touching a whip at all is a extreme act of defiance in my household however, will result in untold misery and torture, but there are other ways to put a fallen domme in her place. For one, I'm sure she has a old picture of herself wearing human clothes or acting dominant in any way. That can be framed and put up next to wherever she regularly takes her punishments. They will also be escalated to a very rough 20 lashes no matter what infraction she does, spilling the takeaway will result in her being manhandled to face her old self while in tears and pain. she will learn that she will never go back. When I believe she is appropriately trained, she will be returned to the same discipline standards as her sister, and the picture will be taken out of the frame and burned infront of her. It will be replaced with one of my favourite pictures of her suffering.>>11577873>humping some boot...Well if your little dicklet can spurt out its pathetic cum from just humping against a boot then why the fuck do you think you deserve to touch yourself normally? Come on now, you're a slave, do you really think you deserve anything more than the most degrading orgasm possible?
>>11577883At first it sounded like you were a free person selling slaves, but now it sounds more like you were a high status slave given a lot of comparative freedom only for Master to rip it away.How fair do you see this treatment is, do you have any hope that the Master will grant you back your lost privileges?
>>11577909That was the case I'd hope to get my previous position... Why should I be treated like this? I'm like those other slaves right? Im not some maso-bitch that gets turned on by being under masters boot... right?
>>11577920>Im not some maso-bitch that gets turned on by being under masters boot... right?It's not about what turns you on, you are a slave. It is your place to be under our Master's boot, and it's a privilege to feel His collar on your neck, and be crushed by His oppression.Please don't de-value being in the service of the Master, it's not becoming of a slave.>>11577906>Show physical affectionHow do you make sure it's genuine, not acted out, or do you not care so long as you the Master enjoy the show?How do you get pre-fallen photos, of pre-broken slaves you buy from sellers
>>11577927>Please don't de-value being in the service of the Master, it's not becoming of a slave.But surely Im not a slave... Im a proud woman trading sluts below me as slaves... I can't possibly be no better than one of them...?
>>11577927>How do you make sure it's genuineOh I'm sure it won't be, especially early on, but this is the closest a slave will ever get to having a friend. As time goes on they will have to look to their friend for comfort, and show Master how they are bound together almost as much as they are bound to Master. >How do you get pre-fallen photos, of pre-broken slaves you buy from sellersIf she was never free then I'd have to talk to her old Master to find any relic I can use to break her. Formerly free slaves would need to be interrogated for their old human name and any friends or family that may be left behind. she can even come with me while I talk to them and find anything that might be of use.If there truly is nothing, just this piece of trash refusing to accept her lot in life, then we can just make something. Get her some human clothes, take a picture of her forced to be standing and smiling like she isn't being actively crushed by Master's will. Maybe even let her live as slightly more like a human for a few hours, sitting on furniture, not having to live in high protocol. That is, until she's thrown to the floor and the clothes are taken off her and locked away. Both the clothes and the picture will be burned together in this case.
>>11577906I dont have a Master currently so I indulge in fist-fucking... humping my own boot sounds like submitting to myself, stealing a family member's boot to hump is evil. If I ever have a Master I will probably keep her/his boot for the rest of my life to sniff and hump. I guess most I could do now is buy a pair from second hand, but half the pleasure comes from knowing whose boot you are humping. >Well if your little dicklet can spurt out its pathetic cum from just humping against a bootMy last streak of abstaining from cumming ended when I came while sleeping. Not even a wet dream, no dream at all, just randomly feeling something warm down my leg and waking up. And ofc humping my bed I can cum reliably with very soft movements. So I think I could be trained to cum with little or no physical stimulation, like from doing oral or getting spanked. The boot, however humiliating, isn't even half as low as I could go... so to be allowed to hump it and get a full orgasm would be a privilege I would be thanking my Master for, and cleaning it up after myself<3
>>11577981God I wonder if you could be trained to cum from just humiliation alone. Dragging you to some remote outdoors area to release your frustration all over the ground, that little thing humping up against the dirt for the bare minimum of stimulation while you're enduring all sorts of verbal abuse from who you exist for."Fucking jerk it out already! you're rolling around in the dirt like a animal, what more do you want?!""Absolutely pathetic that the little thing down there has been rock hard the entire time. Are both of your heads having the time of their lives?""you will ask for permission to cum and permission to lick up your mess afterwards. you better be grateful, any hint of disrespect and I'm leaving you out here. Maybe I'll come looking for you tomorrow."If for whatever reason a relationship with a slave doesn't work out then I probably would give them a old boot or something. Maybe a article of clothing, something that's touched my body and can be a object of worship. I'm not naive, I know whatever it is will see just the weirdest shit imaginable being done by that slave infront of it, but it does show that despite all the degrading talk I do like slaves, even if this particular one was probably too much even for me. A small mercy towards the special kind of soul they have. I wonder if also ordering them to send me a report every month about the degenerate things they've done in worship to my old sweater I gave them alongside a update on their progress of being enslaved by a new Master would make them less or more sane.
>>11577994I dont even want to think how many months of training and orgasm denial it would take for me to cum humping air, but its definitely doable, since I can squeeze my muscles down there for a tiny bit of stimulation. But I imagine my master wouldnt want to waste so much time watching me hump air and she/he would rather give me some very strong stimulation like electric or vibrations or prostate stim etc to make me empty my balls in seconds and laught that as such a hopeless pre-ejac I dont deserve normal sex and definitely cant control myself. Of course such releases would be rare as a slave doesnt deserve even 1/10 the pleasure that he gives his Master, and would preceeded by lots of teasing, edging, denial and orgasm-free sex until my balls are completely full and my head is completely empty and I am literally drooling from my mouth and dick when seeing them. Or having me ruin it in the end so I get no pleasure and remain horny.
>>11578011>empty my balls in seconds and laught that as such a hopeless pre-ejac I dont deserve normal sexHah. It's like a button to reward you with pleasure. Or at least, the twisted version of it a slave is allowed. I can just imagine having you wired up most days as you go out your daily service never knowing if today is the day you will be randomly given that mild mercy of what counts as release. you could just be doing standard cleaning duties, not even anything that degrading, and then are suddenly reduced to a complete writhing mess on the floor. I expect that your reaction to me laughing at you while you are in such a intense situation is still absolute respect and deference, because otherwise you'll be punished after you're done sucking my cock to pay me back for giving you pleasure. Which is what sex is for real people. A slave on their knees sucking a persons cock. You live to give pleasure, not receive it. If at any point your hands wander down without explicit permission I will make sure you are reminded of this.
>>11577927>How do you make sure it's genuine, not acted out, or do you not care so long as you the Master enjoy the show?This is where orgasm control comes in. After a few months of only being allowed to cum while they're all in bed together, they'll have a good Pavlovian reaction to each other, if nothing else.But the main benefit of mandatory lesbianism is that it's a way to shut down those little feelings of jealousy, while also reminding the slavegirls that they don't get to have "interpersonal barriers" or "personal space."
>>11571284>>11571796Can we go back to this actually?>One of my ideas is an oubliette with stepped walls such that three or four cages of decreasing size can be lowered in. The lowest and smallest section, probably only 20 inches on a side, doesn't even need a cage, it's just blocked off by the cages above it. You'd be put into that lowest section, with the empty cages above you. It actually took a decent amount of extra work to remove and reinsert the other cages, but you'll be in there a few days and I want the upper cages free in case I need to put a slave in there for a few hours.I love this idea on so many levels; the idea of it being inconvenient to get me out is so devilish. My comfort doesn't matter obviously; keeping me in discomfort is beneficial for the sake of reminding me of my role for its own sake. It doesn't matter that the spare cages in my hole are making me miserable and currently aren't holding anyone at the moment; they are just being slid back into place because that's where they belong.It's only natural that us slaves should be tortured. This keeps our minds broken and our bodies obedient. I can be subjected to agony or death at a whim, and knowing this, I know that my soul is worth less than a piece of gum stuck on my master's boot.
>>11577793>If this scenario was the case how would any of the slave owners here break me in?A former-slave trainer has a pretty big headstart on her own training. Her big hang up is over her own position in the world: she has to serve a Master more directly, and she is no better than any other slave.First, we would make a big show of you and say you're very valuable because you're a pre-trained slave. Then when we learn that you were a manager, the tone shifts completely, and you're talked about like you're less than worthless: a liability. One of the overseers even asks out loud "Should we just get rid of her?" And I would generously say that we'll keep you alive while we figure out what to do with this slave who is useless to us. Your status here is in limbo. A slave, but not one trusted for any tasks. You have to prove that you're worthwhile to train.You would spend much of your time gagged with your wrists gently bound together. You're on the floor, sitting or kneeling. You aren't next to Master, you haven't earned an honor like that yet. You're next to another slave who's at her desk handling some clerical matters. Hours and hours pass and all you experience is the sound of rustling paper and pens. If you get tired, you can rest your head against her leg, or fall asleep at her feet. If you're really comfortable, she may let you rest your head in her lap or between her thighs.
>>11578151I actually really like the idea of that device, like any design that can reasonably be called "The Hole". A girl who I regularly stick in the bottom cage would get a extra layer added to my teasing when I call her "bottom bitch". That and its use in reminding a slave of her place like you described. A Master can always tell his slaves that their lives are completely at his mercy, that when a slave is kneeling infront of her god it is completely within his right to choke the life out of her should he deem it fit, but most people aren't so callous as to demonstrate that. Torture like that is a helpful reminder. Oubliettes are just one of my favourite tools for torture in general. I like the idea of digging one outdoors with minimal drainage systems. Such that when it rains, it will inevitably fill up with water for a few hours. More than long enough to drown any slave sentenced to execution in there. Every slave is told that is one fate that could await them should they disobey. Has there actually been anyone executed in there? Will Master actually go through with it if they fail him? slaves have no right to know the truth, their only purpose is to obey, it is not relevant to their lives.
>>11577793>>11578194After awhile, you would be a bit more trusted and allowed to do simple tasks. Scrub floors. Bathe the other slaves. Maybe a slave did a chore well recently and you're assigned to reward her with oral sex. Someone noticed that you might be a bad influence if you end up touching yourself, so a preventative-chastity belt was installed, but it looks like they accidentally grabbed a denial-belt designed to stimulate you periodically without ever letting you orgasm - Oops!Despite winning some slave assignments, you haven't won the benevolence Masters give their slaves. You're not assigned any food rations. Every meal you have to beg and plead for. Each time you do this, you find yourself forced to humiliate yourself more and more with your groveling and self-debasement. "Please" wore out quickly. Now you say "I'm a slave. I'm a bitch. I'm stupid. You own me." You beg for scraps and moldy bread. When you're given food, you're hand-fed instead of being allowed to eat out of a bowl, or even more audacious to feed yourself.To prove you're a worthwhile slave, you have to write increasingly humiliating essays about "the perfect slave", "contemplating Master's pleasure', "why I am so inferior", and "my birth as a free woman was a tragedy." These essays are little more than an exercise in how much you can denigrate yourself without sounding ridiculous. Eventually we would cave in to you begging to be trained as a proper slave. But there's a catch. You won't be a simple servant nor a concubine (don't flatter yourself). You'll be trained as a kitten. You'll be aloof and happy. You'll get to play with Master and the other girls. But your judgment and higher-reasoning will atrophy away from under-stimulation. We won't have to worry about your bossiness towards other slaves because you will never be allowed to say another word of English again. Your life now is play, sex, sleep, food, and total submission to all us beings superior to animals such as yourself.
>>11578151I love everything about this - one of my favorite bondage fetishes is slave girls folded up and stuffed into cages barely big enough to hold them. >>11578151>It's only natural that us slaves should be tortured.Exactly. Even in the non-use hours, the suffering continues.
>>11578222In fact I've been thinking about doing a thread just for slaves tied up in stress positions. Poor little slave girls, all alone in the damp cold dark, suffering hour after hour...
>>11577867A fun thing to do with this is to let the slave orgasm, *then* have him do something humiliating and servile, right when the shame is at its most intense. Maybe even give him a choice about it - you can have no orgasm and keep suffering in the usual ways, or you can squirt your sperm and then beg me to do that thing you really hate.I bet you'd pick the second option.>>11578247Stressful bondage is the absolute best. "Suffering" is right. Deep discomfort that builds and builds until she's alternating between useless attempts at escape or relief and pathetic resignation.
>>11578151Would you rather be put in the hole with nothing else on your body, or with additional restraints? I'd sometimes put you down there with a sens-dep hood on; I know you'd stay quiet either way, but it makes the punishments more effective when you can't even tell it's going to happen until the water hits you.>>11578200I probably wouldn't put it outdoors, for that reason. If I wanted to kill a slave I'd just smother her with tape, at least then I can fuck her before she stops struggling.I would, however, have a valved drain on the bottom that can be opened for cleaning (another slave sprays a hose into it for a few minute) or closed for punishment (filling the pit up until the water is right at the bottom of the next cage, so she has to keep her face pressed against it to breathe.That, or an electric fence transformer connected to the steel floor and the cages above, so she has to keep herself pressed down enough to not touch the top.Honestly, if a slave fucked up enough to spend a couple days in the hole more than a few times, I'd probably just cut my losses and get her nuggetified after that. She'd fit in a much smaller cage, too.>>11578222>>11578247/pbg/ and /did/ are both slow enough that combining all that would probably be worthwhile enough.
>>11577931You are foolish to think you know better than our Master, and very lucky that He enjoys a training project.>>11577960>>11578150>Forced lezWhat would you expect if you grant a slave permission to orgasm, but on the condition that it has to come from another slave, who on paper gets nothing out of it?Would you expect them to help out of a sense of sisterhood, would you order them to help, or would you enjoy watching the stand off.>>11578151idk if you ever watched Criminal minds but season 7, ep 19 has a witch burner putting women in an underground cage to drown and test for witchhood, but it's hard to imagine the torment (the good kind) we'd go through
>>11578210This is getting my cunt so wet. I need master to punish it for me ever thinking I was superior to slaves. A woman like myself true place is enslaved to master to do with as he pleases. Because he is a superior man, and Im just a stupid bitch, so stupid she thought she was better than others when in reality she's such a worthless bitch she doesn't even deserve to be a concubine.That fact makes me so wet. I want to stroke my worthless cunt knowing Im the runt of the litter. An animal lower than even slaves, and I should serve them and other superior beings.Thankyou for showing me my place, Master. I hope I serve you well as mindless kitten.>>11578438Im sorry I ever thought that. I hope master can forgive me.
>>11578200>it is completely within his right to choke the life out of her should he deem it fitI really, really like this as a "I've heard someone I know say they watched this happen but never actually seen it" sort of thing. Just enough to keep me afraid but also thinking "I'm not going to die here no way I'm actually worth money oh god no no no please don't let this be the end" as it's happening. The fear is always there, as well as the knowledge that my owner wouldn't face any consequences for ending my life right there.>outdoors with minimal drainage systemsI'd like to imagine that the drainage system has a hidden mechanism to determine the speed of drainage. I know it's there but I can't see it. Is it set to allow me to survive? Or is the drainage actually blocked? Or perhaps it's up to chance? As the water comes higher and higher my heart starts pounding harder.>Would you rather be put in the hole with nothing else on your body, or with additional restraints?Well, both, sort of... I am always placed into the hole naked, but with some amount of restraint, with the amount depending on my master's whims. The default would be having my hands cuffed behind me. The only reason why they wouldn't be is if they're restrained in some other way).More severe punishment would entail a more rigid restraint system like the one in your pic or in mine. I really like stiff, rigid stationary restraints over chains for purposes like this. Bonus if they're heavy.Either way, there's absolutely no way that I should be allowed the use of my hands when I'm being kept in the hole. I shouldn't be able to use them to hold in warmth and shiver when it's cold, nor to wipe off my sweat when it's hot.
>>11578621I take the philosophy that all of these threats of execution are ultimately empty, but that is my personal choice. I could change my mind at any time, and there are for sure Masters who regularly execute slaves for their insolence. My slaves have no right to actually know that I never intend to actually execute them.Maybe they're smart enough to put it together, maybe not. Still, that outdoors one with the variable drainage system could get a lot of use. For one, any slave stuck in there during a heavy downpour will be told that its survival depends on its ability to beg for mercy while I stand above the hole. Hearing her scream about how she doesn't deserve mercy but she doesn't want to die. How she'll do anything to prove herself to Master again, just "please please please let me continue my service!" They're always so grateful when they get dragged back up, even if this is mysteriously the 4th time they've been saved from execution by Master's last minute mercy. I like to order a slave to follow behind me and count exactly how many times a slave screams "thank you Master" while in full dogeza at my feet. Usually its at least 30.
>>11578438>What would you expect if you grant a slave permission to orgasm, but on the condition that it has to come from another slave, who on paper gets nothing out of it?>Would you expect them to help out of a sense of sisterhood, would you order them to help, or would you enjoy watching the stand off.First: I don't trust them to follow that rule without enforcement, so I'm going to make them wear arm restraints whenever they're not wearing chastity belts. They will be physically unable to touch themselves.Ideally the slaves will learn the lesson that life is better with teamwork, and that taking care of each other is just an extension of cleaning Master's house.If they don't, I'll just tie them up in a 69 position for a few hours. Hope you didn't forget to clean Master's stuff.(My first plan was to make them all wear chastity belts with remote vibrators connected to a single controller, so they all have a shared "happy time".)
>>11578621>I shouldn't be able to use them to hold in warmth and shiver when it's cold, nor to wipe off my sweat when it's hot.To that end, letting you curl up into a ball in your cage would probably let you hold in a little bit more warmth than you deserve. Pic related is probably the way to go. Not nearly as compact, but offers much better opportunities for active torment by me or other slaves.
>>11578621Now I'm thinking about how I would keep you when you're not in the hole. Something like pic related would let you do some basic tasks, but make sure that everything is difficult and painful. Maybe with enough practice you can work fast enough to avoid being whipped before you go back in the hole.
I love the idea of slaves being forced to do horrible things for entertainment on a stream or TV show. Especially a game show or something that causes permanent damage.
Help me /d/. I know its AI Sloppa but I can't help myself. I am becoming addicted to having a local LLM write slavery stories for me. I never bothered with them before but some of the shit they come up with to advance my story is wild. Pic >>11578683 VERY much related. Although her barcode is inside of a womb tattoo and her ankles are brought up to the thigh locks.
>>11577927>>11578438Slavegirls who don't participate in mandatory lesbianism get put in the 69 cage.
>>11572920>I love girls inside complicated machines.
>>11578200>>11578621>>11578628>Being transported round a lake in effectively dog kennel van>Suddenly stop, and the merchandise is taken out of their cages, chained together, and lined up against the side of the road for a wealthy looking passerby to inspect us>some slaves he gropes, some he hits, and spits on me has he works his way down the line.>he naturally decides on the pretty blonde next to me, and they start haggling on the price>eventually concedes, "Fine, 40,000 gold, but I get to drown that one, and that one" pointing at me and another girl who is too far down the line up for me to see.>the sellers agree, and my new Master signs the contract, and chains the collars of His other two new slaves to the bumper of His 4x4>leads me into to the water, where I beg, plead, snivel, and wail for mercy>get to about thigh plunged into the water by my hair>lights seem to go out, just as i think i'm about to drown, he lets me up.>i;m barely conscious but desperately thanking Master>Barely conscious as i'm loaded into the back of his truck, and hogtied>Vaguely make out the third slave faintly being led to the lake, before blacking out>come to, cold, wet, and shivering>still hogtied in the back, Master's new blonde slave tied next to me and no sign of the third slave>>11578664>Without enforcementOf course, the first tenant of inter-slave sex is that it must be for the Master's enjoyment, or a free person of Master's choice, and strictly forbidden otherwise>>11578698i've said before slaves don't deserve arms unless they're being used to serve Master, and should either be bound, and restriced, or used to crawl as quadrupeds
>>11574374>>11575994>>11579316What do you think about government mandated slavery of the fringe elements of society? How would enslaving neets impact the world?
>>11579428You want to enslave the whole thread?
>>11579428>What's your job on the Slaver Commune??>I'm gonna be leading discussion on anime lore some days, streaming LetsPlays from retro games other days, and making cosplays whenever needed.>Political Officer who rapes the shit out of all the NEETs who think being a Streamer is labour.>>11579434kek
>>11579428The main problem is that women never have trouble getting jobs, so all the enslaved neets are going to be male.
>>11579559Can't they be feminized? I would love a cute neet girl
>>11579655Depends on taste, I guess.And on second thought, there might be a few women who decide they'd rather be slaves than work a 9-5 email job.
>>11579695>a fewMore than you know. Depends on how dickish you would be as a master.
>>11579056There really is such unlimited potential for it, especially if you then allow betting on the results>Slaves are held underwater by their Master, to see who can go the longest>Variant with no Master, slaves just trying to drown themselves through sheer force of will>hogtied in the freezing cold and forced to eat a pile of snow>fucking machines with betting on how long until the next orgasm, how many orgasms during the ordeal etc.>Whipping, with betting on when it will start crying, and an intrusive tearcam>Streaming but people can pay to trigger the shock collar, or vibrator >slaves must crawl blindfolded over an obstacle course filled with moustraps>slave hanging, whilst standing on a block of ice, that's keeping the noose slack>bets on SEA slaves and their pingpong shows
>>11579695>>11579701Enthusiastic slavery is great. The idea that a big enough chunk of the female population would be more that willing to give up their rights and devote themselves to a life of simple labor and sexual favors in exchange for someone taking care of them, that an entire legitimate industry can be built around it, is exceptionally arousing.
>simple drudgery, simple toil, simple worship>no complex thoughts, only Master>a slaves world is small and easy to understand>make Master happy, suck His cock, do not think
>>11579714>>bets on SEA slaves and their pingpong showsI'm pretty sure this and the shock collar thing exist.
>>11579701>More than you know. Depends on how dickish you would be as a master.Yeah onlyfans and sugar babies proved that there's a large population of women who enjoy the idea of being trophy wives. Neets don't like work, so they'd be ideal slaves.
>>11579798How should neet slavery be presented to the public?
>>11579737I would 100% submit myself for slavery and to be auctioned off of someone's property. And clean my masters house, suck his cock, and have him take his tress and frustration out on me after a long day however he likes.
>>11579701>Depends on how dickish you would be as a master.Excellent choice of words.If you're my slave you're getting dicked twice a day, at minimum.But then again, slaves usually don't get to choose their master.
My favourite enslavement scenario is one where android bodies are very cheap but software/brains are expensive. So i get kidnapped/forced by debt to put my brain in an android body of (you)r choice. Male or female, strong or weak, ugly or beautiful, you decide. Better if others dont realize there's a mind imprisoned inside the robotic body and think I am just an automaton with no rights, will, humanity, feelings etc. It helps with some aspects of slavery like mindbreak, sensory deprivation, stand-by mode and body modifications. Of course I see some issues with it, nothing beats a soft fleshy body with sweat, blood and tears when it comes to sadism, I guess this is my question for Masters- how would your punishments and rewards differ for android slaves? Would you still enjoy spanking or whipping them or having them stand for a whole day, if you know its android body has no blood and muscles and the pain is entirely simulated? Or rather go full into simulated feelings and create new punishments like a feeling of a full bladder despite not having one (thus impossible to satisfy the urge) or simply zapping the brain. (I may masturbate to the responses)
>>11580297>its android body has no blood and muscles and the pain is entirely simulated?Well if the pain you feel is still real to you then so will the devotion it instills, and so will the entertainment you provide. It doesn't matter if you're actually less human than a slave usually is, if anything being a weird dumb robot is more authentic to what you should be. >create new punishmentsYou'd be surprised just how long you can hold a stress position when your body is quite literally locked in place despite every part of it screaming in pain. Especially when your mouth still works, and you can fully focus your attention on thanking me for giving you the personal attention and care that you need. Discipline is a love language, and you barely deserve a glance of disdain from a human on a good day. Time dilation is a especially cruel punishment. you've served multiple days in corner time before, the lack of primary needs really helps with that form of torture, but so is the fact that it was only 5 minutes in reality. Some android girls are sentenced to multiple centuries in the hole for deep disobedience, which is always something I threaten slaves with, although they have no right to know if I am serious. >(I may masturbate to the responses)Android slaves have long lives and some rather unique methods to reward them. 30 years of devoted and flawless service could result in 5 seconds of maximum pleasure being released through every sensor. Of course, you might put together that maximum pain could also flow through at any time, but the threat of that is better left unsaid. Most slaves who aren't actively trying to be executed for disobedience usually don't earn something that bad.slaves still don't deserve pleasure though, only frustration. Make sure to only edge yourself. Orgasms are for people.
>>11579798Just get the ADD ones with executive dysfunction. They want nothing more than for you to decide what they do, because they physically can't.They will fuck up a lot though.Fucking nekos.
>>11580589>constantly have to manhandle my neko slave into the shower>unsure if this is because of executive dysfunction or because cats hate getting wet>probably both
>>11578628>I take the philosophy that all of these threats of execution are ultimately empty, but that is my personal choice.The beauty of it is that the fetish still works in that case... What's important is that you, as a human, are free to execute your slaves if you wish to do so. Even if I know you have no intent to actually end my life, that just means I'm totally dependent on you for the quality of my life. If you ever bored of me and sold me, then death once again becomes a real possibility.Plus, I know that if you made a mistake no law would ever punish you.Of course there's always Schrodinger's mercy... I would have no reason to believe that you won't put me to death. Every human has never put a slave to death until the day that they finally decide to do so.>>11578683Wow, that's far more rigid than I was imagining, but I love it. It's exactly the kind of brutal confinement I mean.I could spend weeks drifting in the darkness, shivering in a merciless steel frame, wishing to simply be allowed to move again. The last time I was confined, it was in a cage that I had felt was too small. This time I had so much space and yet wished I could use less of it.Eventually, I'd feel myself pulled up, and breathe a sigh of relief at finally escaping my torment. I look for a clock when I'm out, and see that it's been five days. It felt like five weeks.Imagine my despair when after an hour of the other slaves toying with me under master's supervision (never allowed to cum of course) I am lowered right back down, left to tremble in the frustration of the edge and the icy cold of the liquids on my body that I can't touch.
>>11578698Honestly? I imagine that a simple collar and handcuffs would be permanently adorning my body. If I'm not needed for work, then care is taken to ensure my hands are never available to me. In the care occasion that my cuffs are removed, multiple other slaves are there to "spot" and keep my hands held in position so I never have the freedom to move them.I can still use them behind my back, but I could think that years would have gone by since I had been truly uncuffed.>>11579350Holy shit hot greentext story>i've said before slaves don't deserve arms unless they're being used to serve Master, and should either be bound, and restriced, or used to crawl as quadrupedsYou get it...
>>11579779I really get off on the idea of being forcibly suppressed...My thoughts are a liability. Every moment that I am daydreaming is a moment that I am stealing time from my master.My life exists to serve and I must fight as hard as I can to suppress my desire to think. That's what it means to be a slave. My life is one of drudgery and toil, not of thought.
>>11580670What about eyes and ears? Doesnt Master own them too? Imagine your eye contacts and your 'hearing aid' turning to stand-by mode after use, sensory deprivation with some light buzz that dissipates any thoughts. I think I could get addicted to its soothing effect. >>11580680Dont worry, a lot of Masters have a fetish for subduing smart and ambitious girls into helpless submissive bimbos.
>>11580680>>11580777>What about eyes and ears? Doesnt Master own them too? Imagine your eye contacts and your 'hearing aid' turning to stand-by mode after use, sensory deprivation with some light buzz that dissipates any thoughts. I think I could get addicted to its soothing effect.And that's just a basic version of what's possible. You're talking about the equivalent of little earbuds, a full headset has a full augmented reality system, showing you exactly where you're allowed to be, hiding anything that would distract you, and giving your master a 24/7 livestream of what you can see and hear.Pic relevant: The system can show delivery ponygirls their assigned route.
>>11580950>Pic relevant: The system can show delivery ponygirls their assigned route.As far as the tight confinement for slaves thing goes, I think this is the 150 IQ move - have the restraints on the girl herself. All the usual utility of a latex bodysuit - hood with integrated ring-gag, attachment/tie down points everywhere that lets you adjust her mobility and freedom with just two clips and an adjustment of length on a rope (keeping her elbows mostly behind her so she can barely reach in front of her, or adjusting the length of her ankle hobble,) but with technology added. Remote control systems to activate vibrators, electroshock or drug injection, VR goggles to control what she sees and hears at any given time, integrated vitals sensors hooked to an AI-enhanced software suite on your desktop computer that maps out her physiological responses to whatever stimuli the system is administering so you can exploit and manipulate her body like a tool with just the press of a button. Tech like that would be so ridiculously convenient that it'd probably be standard fare for many slaves. Every woman knows that once that suit goes on them, they'll probably be wearing it for the rest of their lives.
>>11580777>What about eyes and ears? Doesnt Master own them too? Imagine your eye contacts and your 'hearing aid' turning to stand-by mode after use, sensory deprivation with some light buzz that dissipates any thoughts. I think I could get addicted to its soothing effect.I like this idea a lot, though I would prefer if this was a "punishment" or even just a "high protocol" mode where on the average day I wouldn't be subject to such strict regulations. To be honest that's mostly a matter of personal taste and the desire to serve, though it is hot to imagine being plunged into being both blind and deaf once my work for the day is done, left totally helpless with the sudden reminder that even my senses don't belong to me.I would not want the light buzz part though. I see no reason why I ought to be granted such a luxury. I should be reliant on my own will and training to endure the restrictions that have been placed upon me. After all, too much thought would only make my own life harder.>>11580950I like the idea of my senses being recorded, but I think I'd rather not have the VR overlay. I'd rather be forced to rely on my memory to remember what orders I've been given. If I forget, I'll be punished, of course.>>11581118My biggest issue with this is it takes away the "naked" feeling. I like the thought of the restraints being minimalistic in their restraint. Simple steel reinforced leather cuffs instead of an armbinder, for example.
>>11581129>My biggest issue with this is it takes away the "naked" feeling. I like the thought of the restraints being minimalistic in their restraint. Simple steel reinforced leather cuffs instead of an armbinder, for example.I'd expect suits to come in many varieties to suit personal aesthetic tastes. You don't actually need that much coverage for effective control.
>>11579428>tfw remanded to slavery for my habit of serial self-abuse
>>11579350>fucked up and broke master's vase while cleaning>he's about to whip me but his friend stops him and says he has a better idea>he whispers in master's ear and he grins, tells me to go wait outside next to the swimming pool>weather is kind of hot, it sucks because I'm getting sweaty, at least I don't have to wear any clothes>they both come out naked, tell me to get in the pool>puzzlement>they both get in too, and tie my cuffs to the bottom of the pool... i can still keep my head above water>they say here's the game, they're going to spitroast me underwater. i have to get them both to cum before i drown>i know it's futile to object and i feel the pit of fear at the bottom of my stomach>master takes my pussy and his friend takes my throat>next few minutes are a blur, i'm pretty sure this is it, i have no idea what's going on other than that i'm pretty sure i'm going to die now>i wake up on the side of the pool; another slave gave me cpr>both my master and his friend are laughing; master says my pussy is nice and tight when i'm drowning>from now on he's going to use me underwater exclusively
>>11579737>>11580297These are compatible ideas...Immortality is available to those who are willing to spend it as slaves.
>>11580950>>11581118>>11581129Here's my slightly autistic idea that could make everyone happy (and is actually probably buildable today).>slave uniform consists solely of a smart collar, offered in many styles and sizes>collar has a camera, speaker, microphone, accelerometer, RTK GPS module for centimeter-level accuracy, heartrate and blood oxygen measurement, and shock function. Some models also have inflatable bladders for punishment or pleasure>system also includes base station with RTK beacon and camera with image recognition>GPS can be used to prevent the slave from leaving certain rooms, or even certain positions in one spot. >microphone can be used to ensure the slave stays silent, or repeats certain mantras at given times. Master can also call them if needed.>infractions can be immediately punished with the shock or air bladder, or can be logged for manual punishment later
>>11581345Here's how I imagine a typical day might go if I had a single slave left home alone for the day.>very low level shock silently wakes her. She goes and prepares breakfast for me>wakes me up with a BJ in bed>helps me get ready for work, eats her breakfast off the floor beside me while I eat, watches me leave by 9>here she has a couple hours to shower, do laundry, and clean the house. Exact amount of time depends on the day>once done, she goes to the room with the camera and enters her waiting pose. This is usually a dogeza but could be something else if I feel like it.>the camera and collar ensure she holds the correct pose and stays silent and motionless>sometime before 6, she's released to prepare dinner, timed to ensure it's still hot when I get home. Once done, she kneels in front of the door>I eat dinner, review her records for the day, and give her her maintenance spankings. If she takes them well, dinner is good, and she didn't make any mistakes today, then she's allowed her dinner>tie her up, then fuck her silly and/or punish her for any mistakes made thst day. Shock and air bladder functions are quite useful here>she can spend the night in bed with me if she's been extra good, otherwise she goes in her cage for the night0
>>11581139Your owner will be able to abuse you much more effectively than you could ever hope to do yourself
What are your thoughts on having your slaves do mock (or real) combat? Like gladiators?
>>11581461I like slaves with a bit of a yandere streak to them, so sports like that is a good way for them to vent their need to "make those hussies pay" rather than just letting it fester. Maybe something more like nude wrestling, even if she will probably try to kill the other girl every single time. It's good entertainment and a overseer can just grab her and return her to me for punishment if she goes too far. slaves like that are kept restrained in some way when outdoors for a reason anyways.
>>11581461Physical combat def not, but I'd love to have them participate in a few sport types with myself and the other slaves as observers for my entertainment. I'm thinking Ballet, several types of Gymnastics, Figure Skating, Cheerleading as a team, Synchronised Swimming and things along those lines that involve lots of precise and carefully controlled movements, because 95% for sure I'm adding remote controlled vibrators to the mix.
>>11579434>You want to enslave the whole thread?YES!
>>11581129> I'd rather be forced to rely on my memory to remember what orders I've been given.The whole point of this headset is to compensate for how unreliable slavegirls are!>>11581139You forgot the first 2 rules of being a slave:>1: Don't break Master's stuff.>2: You are stuff.Fucking idiot.
I want to enslave and fuck a neet girl so much. They are so cute and I love the smell
>>11581629>The whole point of this headset is to compensate for how unreliable slavegirls are!But isn't that the fun part? They have to rely on their memory and if they're wrong, they get punished. Keeps them in a constant state of fear which teaches them to pay closer attention.
>>11580606They like being clean, but they lose track of time easily and can go days without showering if not reminded or forced.They enjoy grooming others though, which can be nice.>>11580777>Imagine your eye contacts and your 'hearing aid' turning to stand-by mode after use, sensory deprivation with some light buzz that dissipates any thoughts. I think I could get addicted to its soothing effect.I've used blackout contacts on mine a number of times. Puts her immediately into subspace. You'd think they'd be all nervous with every step, but no. They like nothing more than to be on master's arm, their every step guided. At home, it doesn't make them useful for very much, but it does keep them out of trouble in public. Also, it looks very cute from the outside.
>>11580297>android bodies are very cheap but software/brains are expensiveWhat about the other way round, where the brains/soul can be extracted from a subject, and copied just as easily as a USB, but operating bodies are hard to come by, to the point where it's not uncommon for several slaves to share the same body, along with Master's software enforcers, that can de-bug and torture any soul left near them?>>11581148do you think the Master would allow you to orgasm during before hand, as there'd be no way to hear him.It would be undeserved, but imagine how hot it would be to be Pavlov conditioned into getting hot near the pool, and starting to fantasise about Master pushing you in to have His way>>11581461It's filled with potential, but the stakes and competition depend entirely on how brutal/benevolent the Master is
>>11579737>>11579798>>11579950Peer pressure is easy to weaponize. We just need to reach a critical mass of women becoming slaves and then a billion of them will start signing contracts because it's trendy.We can even get slave influencers putting "a day in my life as a slave" videos on tiktok.>>11581461We will, of course, have Keijo tournaments.I also suggest the vibrator tug of war as a good sport for slaves. (And any variation of "whoever cums first loses"/orgasm races.)
I want a cute neet pet!
I want a cute fat pet!
What are your thoughts on making sex slaves carrying your sperm in public. Personally, I'm not a big fan of things like used condom dresses, but I like the idea of them getting their senses assaulted by it non-stop while having to act normal.
>>11583457https://story-the-model.tiiny.site/Story-The-Model.docxhttps://story-the-model.tiiny.site/Story-First-Day-at-College-Bondage-101.docxI'm not sure these links will work for you as the site seems like an absolute piece of shit, but I didn't know where else to upload these two. The fic site I originally took them from died over a decade ago.If they do work though, give them a read and see if you like that version of "a sex slave being forced to carry semen in their mouth", I really like it and haven't seen it elsewhere outside of those two specific stories.
>>11583457I did think it was weird when people were talking about limiting the slave's senses of sight and sound, and nobody suggested coating the slave's tongue or the inside of their nostrils with residue from Master's semen, so that they maintain a constant smell and taste
>>11583457Yes please, also breeding slaves plugged up to keep cum loads inside their wombs.Sperm from condoms to be collected and should be given to slaves as condiments on food.Or collect the sperm and inject it into their wombs like some impregnation show.
>>11583457An important question here is whether it's better for it to be YOUR (the master's sperm or not). The master's cum should be a reward for a servant being successful or a priviledge for the ones that are generally good servants. Perhaps for punishment or for the more unruly it should be from others. Though this does take from the fun that you "mark" them.
>>11581960This is why I don't like the idea... I want to be forced to struggle in my life as a slave, and for my life of menial drudgery to be demanding as well. Being a slave should mean having to focus on service, not just follow the HUD until I'm done.
>>11582615>do you think the Master would allow you to orgasm during before hand, as there'd be no way to hear him.Before? Fuuuuuck no. I don't imagine myself as a slave that is allowed to masturbate. Ever. Period. If I even asked I'd get punished.During? I don't think it would be possible for him to notice, nor do I think he'd care. Obviously being condemned to underwater use only is a death sentence. It's not a matter of whether I'll drown, but when. I envision this as a matter of him inviting his friends over multiple times a week to gangbang me in the pool just for amusement. He's not really interested in me at this point; he's just figured out the most fun way to dispose of me.
>>11584562Noooo, that's not what i meant. i meant that as you won't be able to hear anything whilst submerged, maybe Master would be generous and grant you permission during your underwater use. Maybe that would be the only time you are allowed from now on, so that you start to neeed itDo you think you'd do your best to try and drain Master's balls, or persuade other slaves in the harem to do so, so that you can escape this ordeal briefly? How would the Masters here punish a slave for doing that?>>11584555HUD is more efficient, and dystopian, but it takes the soul out of it a little bit. There should always be a little bit of fear in "what must i do next to please Master">>11584381It's best for it to be the Master's sperm obviously, but that's a limited resource, so would only be granted to the high tier slaveslesser slaves would have to hold Master's urine in their mouth instead, then below them you'd have cum receptacles holding the seed of Master's slaves. i don't know if there's a tier of slave below that
>>11577762>Have you been enforcing mandatory lesbianism?I've been trying to come up with something for them. It's not really lesbianism, more reinforcing that they have no sexual orientation in the first place.I mean, female slave owners exist. Inevitably I'll have to loan one to them, either because they need a spare or as a courtesy / flex, it's going to be quite embarassing if the girls have no experience in satisfying a fem master. Any suggestions?
>>11585329You just reward them for each other's orgasms with a little buzz. That way it also emphasises how kind a Master each time you let even one of your herd cum
>>11585329>>11585453Superior slaves are allowed to orgasm only either when being fucked by Master or when using an inferior slave. Superior slaves are also encouraged to punish inferior slaves for any perceived act of disobedience, which naturally comes to include poor performance. Inferior slaves thus have a very strong incentive to learn how to pleasure a woman.
Make sure to properly feed your slave!
>Be ironing Master's clothes>standard housekeeping uniform of apron, loincloth, indoor heels, vibe and chastity belt, shock bracelet worn on the ankle, and of course a leather collar>arms chained behind back just above the elbow, wrists cuffed in front, and ankles linked together to give very limited movement so that even simple household chores are a struggle>Master has been keeping me edged, but as vibe is only on a moderate setting it's not unbearable yet>Vibe goes into overdrive, and Master suddenly grabs a fistful of my hair and pins me down on the ironing board, my face is mere inches away from the iron and i can feel its heat blasting me>"Nnnngh Master! Nnngh!" i shriek as i writhe from the vibrator's assault>Master commands me to stop with a hard spank, and i really really do my best but i still have to keep shifting my balance as the vibe intensifies its attacks>can just about see my reflection in the silver of the iron bottom, as i moan in pleasure. im making the ugliest faces from it, so it's almost lucky that Master is angled behind me>it's getting too much and i really beg>Please Master, please please may your slave cum, Please aaaahh please Master>tears are forming now, and are being cooked by the heat from the iron still inches away from where Master is holding my face>another harsh spank as Master mocks me, and tells me i should be begging harder>Please please please Master! Your worthless sla-nnngggh Master your nnngh. Please let your slut cum Master Nnnngh>Master picks up the iron with his free hand, "Very well, whore. Master gives you His permission to cum">barely have a chance to thank Master before he presses the iron into my exposed left but cheek>i scream in pain then moan vibe brings me to climax, before screaming in pain again>Master removes the iron and lets go of my hair allowing me to slump onto the floor>lie there trembling for about 3 seconds before i return to my senses and remember that i should be thanking Master
>>11586709>Hurriedly shift into a dogeza and begin kissing Master's feet, and thanking Him profusely whilst silently praying that He will forgive His ungrateful slave>what feels like an eternity passes with no way to gauge Master's emotions>Oh no He must be mad, like really mad. i am such a worthless slave for always disappointing Master like this, he's going to punish me by-->"Get up, slave", as Master tenderly helps me to my feet, "you still have to finish your chores">"Yes Master">"And don't forget to sway your hips as you work, whore">"Yes Master!">He attaches some bells to the belt of my loincloth and they jingle as my leg is still trembling and bouncing and spanks my buttcheek, the right one this time, and speaks before i can even start to thank him>"Once you're done, you can run yourself a warm bath before dinner">"Thank you Master, thank you thank you thank you!
>>11586709>>11586723Very hot stuff! Pain/pleasure is the best
>>11585466I don't get it, if they can climax with an inferior slave or at Master's usage, then it's not really much of a limit for any of them except the absolute bottom slave
My neko asked when she's going to be tethered (to me) next. It's so cute when they ask.
>>11587505i think pain/pleasure works so well because it's the how-to for making slaves enjoy, and later get off to their humiliation. i didn't mean to kill the thread with it.>>11587727What an honour that is, to be tethered to the Master! Although i thought that was more dog behaviour, and not really cats unless they're very tsundere
>>11587734>What an honour that is, to be tethered to the Master!It was finally cold enough that I wore a robe, and when she saw the belt, her eyes lit up.
>>11585243Ohhhh, I do think that I would fight as hard as I could to stay alive just a little bit longer and to that end I'd try to get my master to cum. I'd probably at this point not hesitate to let myself cum even though there's no way my master would give me permission since I expect it to be the last chance I get.I think other slaves would probably avoid me so that they don't get sucked into the trouble... if they get too close to me they'd take my place once I've been kept underwater too long.
>>11586709>>11586723Very good stuff... though I doubt a master of mine would be as generous as to allow a comfortable bath after.
>>11587557Two points:>They're not allowed to masturbate.>"Team-building"
>>11588132>I think other slaves would probably avoid me so that they don't get sucked into the troubleYeah, i guess it would feel like you're effectively marked for death. At least as the weather is turning colder, the Master is less likely to want to use the pool. So, a little more and it looks like you'll survive until Spring at least>>11588133Perhaps not, but there are two>Master knows that spankings are that much more painful if the skin is wet>If Master decides that's the last orgasm i'm allowed in a while, then my mind would be stuck reminiscing dreamily over it, so the bath helps my mind romanticise it, and further fetishise my own mistreatment for Master's pleasure>>11588215>Not allowed to masturbateObviously, Sir. But so long as they have a tongue of a lower ranked slave they can do so whenever. Not to tell you how to maintain your herd, but are you sure it's okay to be so lenient, and generous with your slaves?
>>11588133Any slave I was that harsh on certainly wouldn't get such niceties. It'd probably be more of a "leave you chained up in the basement, and send another slave to put something on the burn later, if I remember" situation.>>11588215One of the first things slaves learn is that they're not allowed to directly pleasure themselves, ever. This, plus the fact that slaves rarely ever have free time (any time not spent working, serving, or sleeping is usually spent kneeling motionless in a corner, awaiting orders) means that for a slave to receive pleasure, she has to either:>get fucked by master long enough to properly get off, or>be a high-status slave, AND serve well enough to be rewarded with free time, AND have a lower-ranked slave available>>11588253The truth is that some slaves just have more privileges than others. There's slaves who are allowed human food and orgasms and speaking privileges and such. Then there's other slaves, like you, who might have their cunt only ever touched by a whip or cattle prod. Both have their place in any functioning household, though.
>>11588254>Any slave I was that harsh on certainly wouldn't get such nicetiesMy version of it would be for my master to instead of saying tenderly to get up, I'd just be ordered to get back to work with no aftercare and by the time I've risen from dogeza he's already left the room.>not allowed to directly pleasure themselves, everThis is my ideal for the terms of slavery...I think the strict rule would be that I'm not even allowed to ask to cum. The rule is that I can cum when my master orders me to, and only then. If he doesn't think about it? Then I don't get to cum, ever. If he orders me to and I fail to do so or he catches me faking it? Hell awaits.Like you said, I should not have free time. If I'm ever not working, serving, or sleeping, I'm to assume a pose like picrel (though if I were to show an expression like that I likely wouldn't see the light of day again for half a year). To try to indulge in even something as simple as resting for a few seconds is a form of theft, as my life is the property of my master. In theory, even my thoughts should remain of service. If I ask to masturbate, I'm not thinking enough of my master.>There's slaves who are allowed human food and orgasms and speaking privileges and such. Then there's other slaves, like you, who might have their cunt only ever touched by a whip or cattle prod.Not the person you replied to but I could imagine how envious I'd be of the former.
>>11588577>wouldn't see the light of day again for half a yearHalf?There are slaves that exist just to clean torture dungeons and nothing else. If you're even more of a dumb beast than you usually are then you can be consigned to hells you can't even imagine.
>>11588590I can only imagine... after all, there are no laws protecting the rights of slaves. My owner has every right to put someone like me to death and it would be completely lawful.Obviously, there's no way I'd get away with showing a face of defiance. For me to do so would mean at LEAST half a year, if I'm lucky. It wouldn't be strange for, on the second offense, to simply be placed into such confinement and left to remain there for the rest of my life. My master might even keep one such slave that way, behind one-way glass, just to let us know what awaits us if we take the privilege of serving for granted. A slave that rots in a tiny chamber, having seen nothing but darkness, heard nothing but silence, moved but an inch in many, many years, and who will likely remain as such for the remainder of her natural life.Next to that slave sits an empty chamber, fully equipped with the same capabilities.It is that which I think about as I stand in my waiting pose, waiting for orders, trying to stave off the idle thoughts that rise in my mind that are unbecoming of a slave.
>>11588254>Any slave I was that harsh with wouldn't get such nicetiesYou wouldn't torture your favoured slaves at all just to keep a little bit of fear in them?>chained up in the basementReally really no after care, even when it's not deserved? How cruel, but justified>free timesorry i was thinking of us more like pets with some minor freedoms after chores are done, rather than appliances, which should be ready waiting for their next use. Please forgive this slave for the indiscretion, Sir>Then there's other slaves, like you, who might have their cunt only ever touched by a whip or cattle prod.Thank you for reminding this slave of its place, Sir.>>11588577Maybe Master would spit on your exposed butt, and give you a brutal kick to your side for shirking off your chore.>not even allowed to ask to cumEven when Master is edging you with the intention of having you beg?>picrelstress positions with the arms raised like that are so difficult to maintain though. i almost imagine Master being so bored of my constant failure to hold them that he pulleys my wrists to my collar, so that any break will choke me until i get back in position >>11588593>tiny chamber, rotting slave, and empty chamberSounds so beautifully sadistic, do you think the Master would allow/want you to beg not to be put in that?
>1) What setting would you choose for your scenario? Modern? Fantasy? Sci-fi? Based in reality?Xuanhuan / Xianxia cultivation setting (basically Chinese magic / mysticism for those unfamiliar)>2) What's the main supply of slaves?I offer incredible power gained in a short time frame to a select few, probably no more than two dozen at the outside over time. You can get revenge for your family or entire homeworld, achieve your goals and desires or whatever else you want where any other method either wouldn't give you enough power and/or quickly enough.>3) In case of mass enslavement, how are new slaves kept and trained to ensure they won't rebel or disrupt the society?My method of giving you incredible power is to basically imbibe my essence into them, and copy a small fraction of my power directly into their body. Would work incredibly well and quickly, with the caveat that the process leaves them hopelessly compliant to and in love with me.>Questions for Masters/Mistresses:>1) How do you want your slave(s) to view you/feel about you?Love, obedient, subservient, but still willing to point out things to me if they think I'm missing something or making a mistake.>2) Would you consider training new slaves in groups or pairs?Sometimes, depending on the situation, like a small group of friends or a pair of sisters who want to accept the offer together.>3) Would you train slaves with a history before enslavement, like friends, lovers, enemies, etc?Technically they'd be my disciples who are off achieving whatever it is they want to achieve, before becoming my slave full time, so yes.
>>11588756>4) What general feelings would you want your slaves to have towards each other? Competition? Jealously? Hierarchical obedience? Affection? Partnership?No in-fighting. I'd have three general tiers to the slaves but even between tiers I don't want any fighting.Wife tier - any who can give me an heir. In cultivation settings, the more powerful the cultivator the longer their lifespan and the harder it is for them to have children. They'd more or less be treated like being in a semi-normal S&M relationship at this point.Servant tier - prospective wife candidates who haven't gotten pregnant yet, basically maids / bodyguards / whatever role needs filling, who serve me sexually whenever and however I like without question.See the previous post's pic for what you might look like here.Sex toy tier - If you're here then most likely you fucked up royally and now you're serving me as a table, or something else where you're basically completely restrained, vulnerable and helpless. Getting out of this tier might happen eventually, or it might not. Proving you deserve to no longer be in this tier is difficult when you're incapable of basically any actions. Pic related.
Reminder to teach sex pets manners. Just because they should be glad to share the same status as animals doesn't mean they should act like animals.
What is the most expensive slave you got?
>>11588253>but are you sure it's okay to be so lenient, and generous with your slaves?Yes.It's pretty simple: I want them to like each other, and I'm a fan of yuri. I like knowing that my slaves are eating each other out on a regular basis.And it's a good, non-damaging outlet for any slaves that have an urge to bully the ones even lower than them.
>>11589042In terms of upkeep? This thing.
>>11589042My most expensive slave is a vat-grown thing I bought a few years ago.Ironically she's more valuable for being legally non-human. She doesn't even have the few legal rights that a normal slave would have, so a lot of people buy these for... unpleasant reasons.She's smart and incredibly obedient though, so I put her in charge of my harem.
>>11588756>>11588757Criminally overlooked/underreplied to postsAlthough I don't know how many seeking power and status like that would willingly submit to slavery, or be a good fit for it.You said no infighting but how do you expect the three tiers to react to each other, how many of each tier do you expect to have, and is there anybody else that rivals you and can grant mystic power
>>11589668>underreplied to postsOh, join the club.
>>11589226Neko slaves are more like dumb pets.
>>11589668>Criminally overlooked/underreplied to postsAn incredibly common occurrence.>Although I don't know how many seeking power and status like that would willingly submit to slavery,Desperation, rather than seeking power and status. I would target ones who'd be into the end result primarily and have a pressing need to get real strong real fast for some reason (that I may have secretly nudged the situation for a tiny bit, but only if there's a girl I *really* want).>You said no infighting but how do you expect the three tiers to react to each otherbasically fellow co-workers, or close enough. In such a setting techniques to produce multiple clones aren't unheard of, so I could just make enough of myself that there'd be no need to compete for my personal time and affection.>how many of each tier do you expect to haveThe way I imagine it, 1 to 2 wife tier, a dozen to two servants, half a dozen or so sex toys.>and is there anybody else that rivals you and can grant mystic powerTechnically yes, but not in the same universe.
>>11589844What about elf slaves?
>>11572914I don't use itch very often but it says the download is flagged and the page quarantined? I don't know if they give that warning at the drop of a hat or not. Do they just throw that warning out a lot to protect themselves or what.
>>11590354They age slower than humans but they can be clever and try to escape. Nekos are more afraid of the outside world than slavery. The more master thinks for them, the happier they are. The downside is they fuck up tasks in ways a truly dumb or lazy slave wouldn't. Forgetting to remove the wet laundry from the washing machine is a common neko behavior. They forget to take it out for 2 days and have to wash it again, and will forget about it yet again for another 2 days.
>>11589926Thread's dead, might as well talk a little bit about my setting, specifically slaves in the sex toy tier.If they can't move at all, technically they can still move their tongue and stuff too generally, the goal is just to "entertain me" however they can if they want to go back up to servant tier.That being said, like the pics I'll post, they could get some small limited range of motions in their restraints they can take and that small range can give plenty of entertainment for me if they play into it well.
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>my slave hasn't been of the best service lately>been getting a lot of punishments, I'm not lowering my standards for her, but I do want to show her some form of mercy>she's trying her best, it's not her fault she's human garbage>the little dummy has no idea what's in store for her on the week of halloween>going to be hand feeding her a few bits of candy every day>maybe she'll think it's a trick or something>maybe she'll scream that she doesn't deserve it, and should be disposed of for her failures instead>regardless she'll be given headpats and told she's a good girl while she eats it, and reminded that any disrespect will result in beatings once she's done
>>11588695>Maybe Master would spit on your exposed butt, and give you a brutal kick to your side for shirking off your chore.Worse than that. I think if he were to catch me lost in thought for a few seconds with a cleaning tool in my hand, he would immediately punish me with a week in a punishment cell to continue thinking. The only thing I'm allowed to do when not serving is the waiting pose.>Even when Master is edging you with the intention of having you beg?Such a thing would only happen if my master was intending to bait/test me.In reality, orgasm would be something that happened for me once or twice a year, only so that I can't go frigid and forget I want it. Otherwise it serves no benefit for him. If he wants me to tighten up in a pleasurable way, he would choke me instead.>stress positions with the arms raised like that are so difficult to maintain though. i almost imagine Master being so bored of my constant failure to hold them that he pulleys my wrists to my collar, so that any break will choke me until i get back in position The one I posted isn't really a stress position - ask me how I know...Either way, "hard" doesn't matter. If I find some aspect of my service too difficult and therefore I'm not a satisfactory slave, I can simply be disposed of.>Sounds so beautifully sadistic, do you think the Master would allow/want you to beg not to be put in that?He'd probably get annoyed if I did so. My master would have better things to do than to listen to the pathetic mewlings of his property whining about the consequences of its actions.
>>11588695>You wouldn't torture your favoured slaves at all just to keep a little bit of fear in them?Of course I would, and enough to make you shake with fear at just the sight of the whip or prod. But certain punishments (burns especially) carry enough health risks that I would only inflict them on slaves I really don't care about.>i was thinking of us more like petsCertain slaves are, especially the particularly attractive or well-endowed ones. The rest of you get to spend your idle time holding a presentation pose or locked in your crate.>>11588593I'd probably keep a designated torture toy for things I couldn't do to any working slave. You'd get to watch it get tortured a couple times a week, and looking away for even a moment is grounds to have you join it for the rest of the show.One of the other slaves would have the responsibility/misfortune of looking after the torture toy's health. She's quite motivated to do a good job because if the toy dies while she's responsible, she gets to be the replacement.>>11591443I wouldn't personally be watching for indiscretions, that would be the responsibility of the superior slaves. If they saw anything, they would lock you onto one of the punishment racks until it could be carried out after dinner.They'd also usually be the ones actually administering punishments, as my evening entertainment. Hopefully you don't make any mistakes before you finish your duties, or you're getting whipped for that too.
>>11591152>Still move their tongueIs that so they can pleasure other slaves, use it as a substitute for nodding/shaking, or so that you as the Master can torture us further, by attacking it with extreme spice like ghost peppers?>>11591443Not to encourage you to disrespect your Master, but for some reason it sounds extra cruel that He won't enjoy in the slaves' struggle He inflicts, just cold, merciless, and focused as a Master should be>Not a stress positionDepends on how long it's held for, but it is a very tame one. What's the worst stress position you've ever had to hold, and the longest one? i think my worst was planks on a taut leash, so that failure chokes me.>>11591538>Shake with fear at just the sight of the whip or prodYou know how terrifying it is to have to fetch one of Master's tools to Him with no idea which slave He wants to use it on. It's enough to give any slave the shakes>What would you do to keep your favoured higher-value slaves in line?How do you see yourself as coming to own, slaves that you don't really care about, would we just be bought on a whim, or inherited?
>>11591935>Is that so they can pleasure other slaves, use it as a substitute for nodding/shaking, or so that you as the Master can torture us further, by attacking it with extreme spice like ghost peppers?Option 4: pleasure me when I stick my dick in there. The first if the other slaves want I guess but most are liable to be wearing chastity belts or have some small level of restraints themselves, the only ones who'd be completely free to go around doing whatever they want are the really good girls who've earned it. I feel like them making noises to try and communicate would only annoy me.As for pain, I'm not into physical pain at all. Some light to medium spanking of the butt is kino, but all torture I'd do would be pleasure related in the form of either "too many orgasms" about 2/3rds of the time, or "none at all" 1/3rd of the time.
My slave isn't taking locktober well, it's adorable. The fact she's a personal slave means I never actually locked her, I don't like having the belt obscure my view, so she has to deny herself just based purely on the fact she's around me every hour of every day and she will be subjected to horrific torture the moment she fails me. she's so frustrated and constantly horny, it's great. Ordering her to obey only with her sheer willpower is also especially torturous when combined with forcing her to edge by humping my leg for at least a hour every day. she's not the smartest beast but she knows what will happen to her if she makes a big mess down there.
>>11592026My pet is enjoying her popcorntober well, it's adorable. She will be subjected to horrific unsalted popcorn the moment she fails me. she's so frustrated and constantly hungry, it's great.
>>11592030Hah. Hey slaves only have the right to be treated exactly as their Master desires. I can see why the vast majority of property just glares at that pampered thing.
>>11591935>it sounds extra cruel that He won't enjoy in the slaves' struggle He inflicts, just cold, merciless, and focusedMhm, I guess it makes sense because I'm envisioning this purely from the POV of what I would get out of it. The cruelty is the point. My vision is not one of having a sadistic master who delights in my torment, but rather a strict, harsh master who holds me to extreme standards and who completely stifles even the smallest sparks of rebellion in my soul.I especially like the idea of it being a religious thing - if I do not purge my sins through my servitude, my soul will be condemned. This raises the stakes to an extreme extent. My master would have his duty religiously to hold me to a standard and I would have the duty to be held to that standard. In fact, I should be grateful. A master who allowed me to slack from my duties could instead damn my soul by mistake.>Depends on how long it's held for, but it is a very tame oneI mean, holding my hands behind my head like that is not really much harder than just standing in place. It's a little harder but not much.Trust me, I would know.>What's the worst stress position you've ever had to holdThe worst ones were bondage ones...For self-bondage I throw a ratchet strap over my door and lock it to my collar and ratchet it tight until I am forced to my tiptoes to not choke myself. Then I use another chain to link to some leather wrist cuffs through a timed padlock, and with my hands cuffed, there's nothing I can do but wait it out. I want to work up to an hour but haven't gone past 30 minutes yet. There's a version where I'm lying on my bed that I have done for well over an hour (trust me, it's too harsh to sleep like that).In a relationship where someone could tie me up, strappado for 30 minutes.The non-bondage one was wall sits actually, which I had to do for sports in school... different context but I did have to do those and got 3:30 once.
>>11592032>I can see why the vast majority of property just glares at that pampered thing.Oh well, she's too dumb and innocent to notice it anyway.
>>11591965Why would you waste an erection, and moreso your seed on such clearly inferior slaves?>A master who allowed me to slack from my duties could instead damn my soul by mistake.You mean like Bishop Frollo from Hunchback of NotreDame?>I mean, holding my hands behind my headyeah it's best used in conjunction with instant pain, like having to hold your hands back, whilst Master slaps you across the face. If you dare to remove your hands, and use them to shield yourself, then Master will get out the whip until you resume position>wall sitsi hadn't thought about the potential of them, imagine having to plank whilst Master holds your leash just high enough for failure to choke you
>>11592968>Why would you waste an erection, and moreso your seed on such clearly inferior slaves?Because my slaves aren't inferior, each one is a potential wife candidate.Here's the thing: in this setting I'm a near omniscient god. I can basically put an automatic alert on the entire universe to alert me if any particular thing comes into existence, in this case if a certain person is born with specific looks and personality etc. Any anime waifu you can think of who has one in a billion looks, paired with the exact one in a billion personality you want is just one in a quintillion or so, and across the entire universe there's many millions of people being born every day.It may not happen every day, but sooner or later your absolute perfect dream waifu will be born somewhere. Go there, secretly and carefully engineer the situation when the time is right so that she needs a lot of power really quickly and give it her. She becomes a powerful and immortal cultivator and solves all her problems (that she doesn't know you're the root cause of) and becomes your slave. You now have your perfect waifu in terms of looks and personality who has eternal youth and is your completely willing slave.I wouldn't call that inferior.
>>11590437Hm, that is annoying. It sounds like I could put in a ticket but kinda weird to do that for a porn game where your character can get sold. I guess that is what I'm going to do. Thanks for the heads up.
>>11593285Even so the slaves lowly enough to be in the furniture/sex toy tier, have to be worse than the rest of your harem
>>11593318Sure, they made a mistake and ended up there , or I just found an excuse to put them there for a bit because it's hot, but they're still the cream of the crop of the universe and can move back up, I'm not going to be too harsh on them.
If getting isekai'd doesn't result in something like this for me, I'd be very disappointed. Someone else can do that overpowered hero stuff.
>>11593322I guess if you had this much power, there's little reason to believe you'd own the lesser quality slaves. Even the furniture would be perfectly sculpted. Would you ever loan slaves out, or gift slaves to others as a show of wealth, magnamity, and patronage?>>11593834If you were isekai'd, how would you seek out your dream owner? Or would you just leap at the first bandits you find?
>>11593834Whynotboth.jpgJust be the masochist you want to be but also be the great hero. Imagine the feeling of a master or mistress who owned the most powerful entity in the world? You are thinking only about yourself again. I am sure in a world with magic you can find a way to enslave yourself if you really wanted to have no control even with your op powers.
>>11593834>isekai slaveryBut also your master is a pervert who's obsessed with collecting exotic slaves.Why bother risking your life as a hero when life's better as a spoiled trophy slave!
>>11592968>You mean like Bishop Frollo from Hunchback of NotreDame?Imagine that society at large thinks that way toward slaves and you've got it.>yeah it's best used in conjunction with instant pain, like having to hold your hands back, whilst Master slaps you across the face. If you dare to remove your hands, and use them to shield yourself, then Master will get out the whip until you resume positionEspecially since I should have been trained out of the reflex long since.>i hadn't thought about the potential of them, imagine having to plank whilst Master holds your leash just high enough for failure to choke youI mean, wall sits just bring me back to high school. Planking too but to a lesser extent.I actually like more devious stress positions that are possible to hold for a very long period of time but that are painful while doing it. Even just standing in one place is agony when you have to keep doing it for hours on end. Maybe that sort of contradicts what I said before, but there is definitely a balance.
>>11593854how do you see slavery working when the slave is significantly stronger, and not properly restrained?>>11593963>especially since I should have been trained out of the reflexIt's easy to say, but it's very hard to subdue the reflex to flinch, and cower. I'm sure the Master is amused by it deep down, but that doesn't make His punishment any less severe >>11593963Do you imagine the Master has a favourite torture pose to make you hold
>>11593853>Would you ever loan slaves outThe top tier would be introduced as my wives among polite company, the servant tier girls would occasionally go out for occasions that demand my attention but don't explicitly require my presence and should be treated as my direct proxy where anybody who tries to harm or really even touch one of them untowardly would be met with great retaliatory force, and the table / whatever else girls would, at most, be seen by similarly powerful cultivators who could charitably be described as my peers and happen to have similar tastes to me, so we can compare notes and I get more and better ideas for things I can do.Actual wife / slave swapping wouldn't happen, I'm not the sharing type and if I ever wanted to enjoy a gangbang I'd make some clones of myself and be a one man gangbang.>or gift slaves to others as a show of wealth, magnamity, and patronage?I would occasionally put out a full search for the ideal slave or wife for those I care about and who don't have the power to pull that same search off themselves.For example, I definitely would want to look out for worthy disciples to teach some of my skills to, and the moment I found one I'd immediately search the universe for the perfect dao companion (think wife, but eternally through all reincarnations and lifetimes) for them, and raise both as disciples together so they can spend plenty of time together and fall in love naturally with my blessing. That should give both of them plenty of motivation to grow, being stronger for each other rather than just themselves.
>>11593982>the Master has a favourite torture pose to make you holdYou mean some domiants don't have a favourite? That's weird, because I do.
>>11594318You would think they have, but how can you guess which ones Master is subjecting you to because the slave deserves to suffer, and which ones are done for His enjoyment. Which one is your favourite?
>>11593982>It's easy to say, but it's very hard to subdue the reflex to flinch, and cower. You'd be surprised... I have done long term d/s and it's not insanely difficult when you work at it.>Do you imagine the Master has a favourite torture pose to make you holdSkipping dogeza because it's too obvious and because you said torture.A wall-supported handstand would be my pick. My master would simply order me to do it and leave me to wait and simmer, upside-down, back against the wall, until he gives me permission to release.
>>11594571>be slave, and know that i'm generally inferior>Go to slavery thread>the slaves there can subdue their pain reflex to full control, and can handstand long term for MasterJesus Christ, how long do you think you can last, even with the wall for support, it's still a mean feat, and shows an admirable amount of dedication you have to the Master
>>11594577I mean, right now, I can't do a handstand... but that's probably why I like the idea. My capability to do feats of strength is purely for the sake of using that ability for my master.
>>11593854I've always loved the idea of being some insignificant NPC-tier loser with no special powers whatsoever, so I just inevitably get enslaved in the fantasy world. Some other isekai'd human most likely won't even notice that I'm from his/her world as they just walk by. While I'm kneeling on the floor just focusing on sucking my Master's cock as a lvl 1 Slave with no equipment other than my steel collar.
>>11594923Fair enough. Maximizing usefulness to a master though should be what most slaves you strive for. But a master needs a warm hole and every mistress needs an agile tongue with no other qualities as well. >>11593982>how do you see slavery working when the slave is significantly stronger, and not properly restrained?Well obviously that would be a problem. But one should probably dedicate themselves to finding a way to be magically enthralled to your better. Defeating powerful demons but not killing them to find secrets to binding and such. Then on your master/mistress birthday you give them you as a gift fully. Alternatively find a physical, yet still magical, fetter that can control you. Displease your master have an electric shock tear through you. Pretty simple. Sure you could cut them down in seconds but not if you are convulsing on the floor in agony. But yeah you would probably still want some sort of control device even if you are a slave willingly. Your master may decide to use you in a way you don't want and you should not have the choice to say no.
On poses, I've always loved pic related. It's difficult but not impossible and exposes everything. I like to think the stopwatch is there to show that she held the pose for an extended time that was filmed as a timelapse, for some online auction listing or similar.
