Playing farming simulator with the new holldand L555 and though that It could be retro fitted with mechanical self levelling. So I'm wondering why you don't see any vertical lift mechanical self levelling skid steer loaders?
Pic related is a draft of what the linages would look like
Might have to make a lego prototype.
Honestly those old New Hollands are pretty good as is for staying level through the lift range. So it would be a lot of extra linkages and wear points to accomplish very little good. Would work fine in a computer simulation, but in real life it just wouldn't be worth it... This thread made me realize I don't have a single picture of my sassy-pants New Holland L785... So you get a picture of my forklift unloading another New Holland skid steer I purchased with a bad engine.
>>2936495I wonder if this would be better, only 8 more joints rather than 14
or this, yellow has been tilt cylinder location would be 10 extra joints though
Forgot to factor in the tilt ram joints for original joint count.
Anyway it's only about the same amount of extra joints as any other self levelling loader.The joint count become ridiculous only because of adding it on top of vertical lift.
The other method of self leveling vertical lift is of course a mast which I don't know where that would go on a skid steer.
see cat 262d3
>>2936524Point to the levelling linkage.oh wait you can't because it is hydraulic levelling.
this entire question is fucking retarded. you arent considering the ideal use design of a skid steer/ctl. they excell at material moving and spreading working from a pile. they are sub optimal for everything else. if you every loaded trucks with one youd understand why a wheel loader exists. even skip loaders where better at loading trucks but you cant move one semi legally on a trailer behind an f350plus whats the fascination with mechanical action? hydraulics self leveling has been a thing for 30 years and now its even better with integrated angle sensors. and it saves having all that iron hanging out in front of the center of gravity making the machine nose dive and reducing the lift capacity same with ride control. its sure nice to be able to zip across a bumpy yard in 3rd gear with a full loader bucket and not have your teeth beat out of your headeverything you are trying to reinvent already existed 75 years ago on og traxavator 955 loaders but it was dinosaur technology that has rightfully gone the way of the dodoso keep playing vidja and maybe one day you get to run a real machine
>points to the vertical lift linkages.
>hydraulics self levelling has been a thing for 30 years and now its even better with integrated angle sensors.Sounds expensive.>and it saves having all that iron hanging out in front of the centre of gravity making the machine nose dive and reducing the lift capacity Point to the massive amounts of iron hanging in front of the pivot point, images posted are just drafts, the final product would be relatively compact.>reducing the lift capacity It would increase the gross weight if just bolted on as an option.>so keep playing vidja and maybe one day you get to run a real machineRan a kanga for spreading wood chip mulch, the self levelling was great for not having to think and lowing cycle time when dumping to the ground with the limited hydraulic capacity.You sound like a Cat shill to kevech over a simple mechanical mechanism that could replace your electronics that satisfy the bean counters.
grug no bunga
every pin joint becomes 1/2" of slop at the bucket lip after 1k hrsimagine trying to fine grade with 4" of slop on the cutting edge after your rube goldgerg contraption with 32 extra grease zerks gets neglected
>>2936558>fine grading with a skid steerHorses for courses, get a fucking drott.
Point is: I want self leveling and vertical lift on a skid loader and I don't want to deal with a malfunctioning valve body and electronics and would rather replace pins and bushings then finding out why a rheostat isn't talking to the valve body controller.
Go shill your hydraulic electronic witch craft elsewhere.
Well this thread certainly went to shit while I was off working today... Anyways here's a pic of my sassypants L785 that I converted over to standard SSQA from the New Holland proprietary system. I've taken every hydraulic self leveling bullshit deal off of every loader I've ever owned. More hoses to leak. Stupid linkages. Get gud with the levers and learn to Oper8.
Sorry I let the fly off the handle.
>adding massive amounts of complication and wear points to overcome your lack of skillFucking sad. Just get better.
>>2936631Thanks for that pic anon, just thought of a simpler plan, only 4 extra pins.>>2936656Hard part is the geometry, once that's sorted the rest is simple.
Draft animation of said linkage, didn't get the geometry right though.
another draftneed to proof this with with some Meccano.
>>2936448because you want the highest load capacity, and designing a self-leveling geometry leads to lower capacities and it's also a retard filter.
>>2936790>and designing a self-leveling geometry leads to lower capacitiesWell then just engineer it better. Gross weight is a concern though.
>>2936448linkage loaders are a cope for undersized hydraulic systems on lethargic equipment meant to be run by monkybrained gypsy peasants
>>2938107>linkage loaders are a cope for undersized hydraulic systems on lethargic equipmentWell yes machines like the Kanga benefit from the mechanical self levelling as a larger hydraulic system is physically impossible to fit.
>>2939225cute tonka toy
>>2939300You try and fit a 1800 wide bucket down a footpath to the back yard in 97 percent of Australian suburban houses.
>>2936690Or I could do something along this and bam no extra pins than a regular vertical lift loader.Long rams and bulk are a concern though.
Visibility is also a concern
>>2939225where does the guy sit
>>2943311>burgers are so fat that they don't comprehend the idea of a machine you stand on.
>>2943332if its so small that theres no risk of it tipping over you may as well use your own hands no?
>>2943334No I've had one almost roll back on me, luckily the machine was balanced and I was able to step off and push it.Side rollovers aren't bad if you don't get caught by the fuel tanks.Kangas have a lift capacity of about 200kg
The smallest which is the 2 series or Kid has a rated operating capacity of 162kg
>>2943336At that point why even bother?
>>2943425You pickup and move 160kg of dirt for 8 hours
