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In /rcg/ we discuss anything & everything remote controlled - multirotors, fixed wing, cars, rovers, helis, boats, submarines, battlebots, lawnmowers, etc.

>How do I get started with racing drones?
https://oscarliang.com/mini-quad-racing-guide/
https://www.fpvknowitall.com/ultimate-fpv-shopping-list/

> How to build a racing drone (16 part video series from Joshua Bardwell)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwoDb7WF6c8mWARrcxtX_G6yytK7QFHID

>What about planes?
https://www.flitetest.com/

>What about aerial photography, is DIY viable?
Buy a DJI if what you actually want is to take good photos/videos, go DIY if what you actually want is a fun project.

>I want a cheap RC training plane that is turnkey.
XK Beaver
Eachine Wing Dragon
OMPHobby T720
Hobbyzone Champ (used only)

>I want a good FPV fixed wing platform.
ZOHD Drift
Sonicmodell AR Wing
Finwing Albabird

>I want a basher fixed wing model for doing crazy shit that is easily repairable.
RCFactory, Hacker and other similar profile models

>I want a dirt cheap drone to fly around my yard/garden
Syma X5C

>I want a dirt cheap drone to fly inside my house
Eachine E010/Hubsan X4

>What are some good YouTube channels for learning or fun?
Joshua Bardwell - https://www.youtube.com/@JoshuaBardwell
Painless360 - https://www.youtube.com/@Painless360
Flite Test - https://www.youtube.com/@FliteTest
Peter Sripol - https://www.youtube.com/@PeterSripol
RCModelReviews - https://www.youtube.com/@RCModelReviews
Andrew Newton - https://www.youtube.com/@AndrewNewton
RCGutt - https://www.youtube.com/@rcgutt
RC Test Flight - https://www.youtube.com/@rctestflight
Think Flight - https://www.youtube.com/@thinkflight
Tail Heavy Productions - https://www.youtube.com/@TailHeavyProductions

Previous: >>2898878
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If I swapped the motors/electronics from a 6" build onto a 7" frame is there any chance I could use the same BF tune with both prop sizes and just switch between 4s and 6s? Motors are Brotherhobby Avenger 2507 1850kv.
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>plug in lipo
>one cell's at 0V
at least it's under warranty, I guess.
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I wanna know how to build a drone like the Ukrainians use against the ruZZians. That's a real drone and the rest of this stuff is garbage. That's what we should all be building and learning to fly. We're gonna need that skill as a society soon when WW3 expands since it's already been going on since ruZZia invaded Ukraine.
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>>2938923
as far as I know the kamakaze ones are basically hobby ones anyone could build, with a few aux controls to detonate/drop explosives.
the only real oddball thing about the current ones is the fiber optic control links they run in areas with jammers.
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>>2938923
I bought one kit similar to this for 80eur last month, later saw the same frame and flight controller on ukraine video footage with an RPG-like warhead underneath being prepared for launch
Most of them seem to be 7" or 10" frames

The only expensive part is the fiber optic wire control, but that's optional
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>>2939065
Nice! Now we're talking. What kind of radio and FPV goggles are you using for this?
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>>2939028
Is there an open source flight sim for drones? If not open source, what is a good commercial flight sim?
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>>2937645
Can you? Yes. Should you? That depends. It's best to current draw test unknown prop combos, but frequently there are tests of what you want to do already available if you just google it.
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>>2939076
velocidrone or liftoff
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>>2938923
i just finished picrel today, going to test it tomorrow, hopefully i dont kill it lmao.
its 8" running ardupilot on a maetek h7a3 board with some analog vtx
also built a 6s 21700 pack to use with it for long range stuff in the mountains behind my house
>>2939076
im not sure about open source but fpv skydive on steam is free and its pretty decent
theres a not a lot of stuff you can fly for free, and they have a lot of pay shit too
apparently i bought uncrashed on steam years ago and thats what i use these days
it's pretty good but its $15, but you do get everything no extra pay shit.
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>>2938923
>That's a real drone and the rest of this stuff is garbage.

They literally fly *exactly* the same builds we fly for fun. Same frames, same motors, same FCs/ESCs, same FPV equipment, same transmitters, all the same manufacturers, etc.

Literally the only difference is they strap on a fiber optic reel while we just use ELRS.

Even the stuff they make in house from scratch is the same we make as hobbyists. Picrelated on the left is one of my custom frame designs from a few years before the war, middle/right is a Ukrainian custom design.
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>>2939167
Thanks Anon! I will have to look into these!
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>>2939171
Nice! I wish you the best with your testing. Looks cool and I admire your skills.

I appreciate your input on FPV Skydive too. Thank you.
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>>2939188
Alright, very valid point and to a degree I retort and appreciate your input. I'm not talking these home made carbon fiber drones, I'm talking about all the store bought pre-assembled and neutered stuff with geofencing and other limits mandated for hobbyists. Even DJI stuff that's not on the professional end of size and lifting power. Syma drones too (I have one and it's crap but it was cheap and my first learning quad) but it's utterly useless in wind and I regret buying it.

To be honest, it was because of all you hobbyists that this whole quadcopter (or X props copters) blew up and became a thing. So I appreciate that a lot and respect it. You guys grew this genre and have now helped change the face of warfare forever. Can't put that genie back in the bottle now.

They're even teaching ordinary citizens in Europe in certain countries that border ruZZia to fly these drones because of the illegal war against Ukraine in preparation for the same to happen to them. That's what I'm interested in.
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Imagine what you can all do if you had Red Bull like dollars to fund you...

https://www.redbull.com/ca-en/drone-pilot-vs-f1-driver-interview
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>>2939171
>>2939270
first flight went pretty well all things considered.
i couldnt get the compass right so i disabled it,
the elevator was reversed which i knew ardupilot was weird with that but i forgot to check it.
just reversed it real quick and then flew around for a bit, but the tune was terrible out of the box
got a lot of work to do on that
sounded like a humming bird going into a wood chipper but still flew pretty well actually and way quieter than smaller ones.
it hovers at about 10% throttle so maybe a tad overpowered which i like.
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>>2939278
It is a pretty weird feeling when I watch the news & see pictures of quads identical to the ones I have on my shelves at home, but in the context of deadly weapons.

Similarly weird knowing that if I lived in Ukraine, I would almost certainly have been recruited to build & fly quads for the army.
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Are these ebooks of interest to anyone? There seems to be a lot in other languages than English though.
https://www.scribd.com/search?query=drones

There is a way to extract them if you want them.
https://scribd.vdownloaders.com/
It's a bit of a multi-stage process and captcha wait but they come out uncompressed. Just as good as the upload.
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I bought a cheap vrx/vtx combo in 2014, and am finally getting into it, and I understand vrxs have gotten better i.e. diversity, but have vtxs? It's a boscam ts351 and rc805. Any reason to upgrade the ts351 other than weight or nah? Weight is not that big a deal for me as this will be for a 5 lb car. I bought a skyzone cobra x and it's great vs the RC805.
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>>2939642
VTXs have become more powerful and gained things like smartaudio, tramp which allow you to control the VTX remotely, and pit modes. Old VTXs are still fine if you're not pressed for space, weight, or looking to go very far, but even a VTX from 5-7 years ago is probably going to be more powerful and have more features than one from 2014.
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>>2939072
>Nice! Now we're talking. What kind of radio and FPV goggles are you using for this?
Using my ancient Flysky FS-i6x that I had lying around, only been learning to fly line of sight for now
with those prop guards https://www.pcbway.com/project/shareproject/Propeller_Guards_for_Mk4_7_inch_Drone_38071821.html

Bought the cheap eachine 800D clone goggles and the camera+vtx from https://oscarliang.com/150-dollar-7inch-fpv-drone/, will arrive in a couple of weeks
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>>2939076
>>2939268
I've managed to pirate liftoff, uncrashed and tryp

Uncrashed is pretty bad
Liftoff is okay
I like Tryp the most because there are a few big maps with different scenary while the others limit you to a pretty small area

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:e5c4472ad73f20b51b52a548af75d1f269bf8861&dn=TRYP%20FPV&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337%2Fannounce
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:0ef06180c2509899bbd811efc1bd0c5e84d42cfb&dn=Liftoff
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>>2939188
How good are fiberoptic video transmitters? I want to make an ROV. Wireless doesn't work underwater
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>>2939989
Considering that literally every commercial ROV uses a tether, I’d wager that they work quite well.
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>>2937029
Is there a small relatively inexpensive self flying drone that I can program to chase mosquitos and flies?
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>>2939990
I mean fiberoptic video transmitters for FPV drones. They're cheap on aliexpress. I'm wondering about how well the cheap ones work with the cable flopping around. Fiberoptics attenuate more when the cable bends
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I've been a radio control hobbyist for nearly 20 years. Unfortunately in all my years of experience i never advanced very far due to my lack of access to flying sites. Were it not for that I would have done a little more.

I find joy in flying nano sized models that I can fly around in my backyard, though the models themselves are not the most impressive. I ha e a closet full of unbuot model kits.
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>>2940009
Do you clean up the fiber optics when you’re done or just leave it?

THEY are banning access to drones for goyims, I’m sure THEY will ban fiber optic drones next over the “trash concerns”


By they I mean the banks
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>>2940369
I know that feel. I went flying today for the first time in over a year, had to drive 45 minutes then hike another 20 minutes.
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>>2940369
Same here, but just a little shy of you in terms of years of experience (about 17 years at this point) across both fixed wing and helicopters. My yard is not even big enough for those types of models that you mention, though.

I used to have a flying site, but I left because I was paying $175 per year to only fly maybe once every quarter or so. So I left the local and AMA membership.

I travel about 45 minutes away to a park which is big enough, then walk for about ten minutes to an open field. I have not flown since June and before that was March (twice). This morning was likely my last chance until October and I think that I might have other priorities then, so it might not be until late November or even the middle of December when I can fly again.

What is even more embarrassing is that someone who has been doing RC for five to seven years could out-fly me, whereas I cannot do aerobatics. I focus on never crashing as I do not have the money for spare parts, let alone a replacement (though I have enough saved from the past two years to go to a swap meet and pick up some spare parts, or maybe a model or two). When half of the models that you fly are over a decade old, spare part availability is always questionable at best (except for Dynam, who still have the same models in there catalogue).

My kit stash (of shame):
>GWS P-40
>NaPolskimNiebie I-153
>NaPolskimNiebie Zlin Z-50
ARFs:
>Maxford USA Curtiss Pusher
>Phoenix Model Sonic Low Wing
Secondhand restoration projects:
>Ares P-51D (almost airworthy)
>E-Flite X-Vert (needs a radio compatible, but now I have a DX6i for it)
>Unknown Micro Quad (TinyWhoop/Inductrix type of craft)
>Flyzone Mini Switch
>Hobbyking Stinger 64mm (the original red one)
>Spektrum FPV set (which I think was made by Fat Shark, back when they were at their height)
Plus about 50 plastic model kits.

OP, if you want something nice, you should look into MicroAces and MinimumRC, they have some very lovely looking kits in your size.
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>>2940406
The picture here is of my Sukhoi Su-29, by the way. It is an older E-Flite model bought in October of 2019. These were good value despite being from Horizon, since for $200, you got 13g metal gear digital servos, which comparable offerings from RocHobby (the MXS), FMS (the Edge 540, etc) and Flyzone (Extra 330) did not give you for about the same amount of money or even more. When I was flying more frequently (once every two months instead of once every 3-5 months), I was coordinated enough to do stuff like loops and rolls.

>Actually buying a Horizon product

Oh yeah, any fellow fixed wing boomers want me to pick up and send stuff to you from the swap meet, if you need spares and the like.
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>be me
>want to upgrade to dji fpv shit but its banned, and the chinks wont ship to the us now
>fuck it ill just stay analog and get a gopro
>buy gopro for $430 a couple days ago
>it gets here yesterday
>go to set it up on their website, its on sale for $330
>WTF.jpg
>start a return immediately
>order another for $100 less
fucking annoying but 100 bucks is 100 bucks
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>>2940406 #
I know you what mean. I was first attracted to the hobby by seeing 3d but never really got gud..

I still have my great planes yak 54 ep.
Its in a state of disrepair. Needs a little repair to the vertical stab butbit can be made air worthy again. Its a really old 3D arf made woth wood construction. I only ever flew it a handful of times.

You'd be surprised how small of a space thay TY model nano stack plane can fly. The wing and landing gear pops off. I packed them up to a shoe box and brought it to the camp grounds on vacation. It could be flown around in a very small circle around our camp site.
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>>2940464
I know the one, blue white and red, Yak, if my memory serves me right.

When I was starting fixed wing ~10 years ago, the goal was to do IMAC or pattern. I am nowhere near precise enough and the trends in aerobatic aircraft have shifted. I miss those days of 3D (2000s especially). I still watch some of the old demonstrations from that time, the new guys are not that smooth, they do too many snap rolls and tumbles, which are hard maneuvers to control. Also they fly the same two aircraft always. It is either a Slick or a Laser these days. It has been years since I have since a Yak, Sukhoi, Ultimate or Cap compete in these competitions.

>Great Planes
I miss Hobbico so much. They had several models that I wanted, but never got (especially the Electrifly Gee Bee).

I have thought about getting this NOS Heli-Max Axe EZ that I found for flying indoors and in the yard, but it uses NiMH packs, if my memory serves me right, which I do not mind using, I just need to get some.

Do you have RealFlight? I will set-up a session next weekend/Friday evening. I can do some 3D pretty well, but I will need for you to download a couple of models. Simulators are far from perfect, but it should help you learn.

I would also suggest checking out RA Cores, they have a cheap Yak that seems perfect for learning to hover on.
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>>2940492
Also, excuse the Plebbit spacing, my apologies. Have a screencap of a Tower catalogue that I saved to my computer...
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Thats the one. Its been hanging on my wall for years. Its been calling me to fly it. With my luck I'll just lawn dart it on Its re-maiden. But id certainly do alot of sim practice and transmitter setup in attempt to avoid that.

I too like collecting NOS stuff. I bought a few NOS items for nostalgia. I have a really cool thunder tiger mister mulligan park flyer foam model. Never built. That was crazy hard to get. Im almost on the fence about building it becuase I think its valuable.
>pic rel/ not mine
I also have an old eflight blade cp pro with brushed motor. Its got a white, gray and blue canopy. Its 120 size.

I've done a little bit basic heli flying but never got the hang of 3d. I have a blade nano S3 for practice in the backyard.

Other stuff I have, a lot of traxxas nitro models. I like collecting the 3.3 ones. Nitro is a bit fo fun to play with amd ive always fancied the idea of having a really nice hanger9 warbird with glow engine. So the nitro experience on cars wjth help there. again, I just need a flying site...

Sure I have some sims. All mine are bootlegs but I have real flight 5 or 7? I may purchased a copy on steam too.
Anyways. My steam handle is matacks845. Sure id join some RC gameplay. Hehe. Thats if I can find the time for some gaming session.

So the kids nowadays like these racing drones. Its pretty sweet desu. I've bought the parts to build one by following the guide for the $100 build on uavfutures youtubes.. Again, its been sitting in boxes. The big barrier to entry for
there is the headset. instead I have a small lcd display that i can rig it up to.
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>>2940496
Dude plebbit space all yku want.. who gives a shit?

I have multiplex blizzard.. best German made foam models. Never built. :/
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>>2940369
get a simulator for stick time anon. I haven't been able to take my (now busted) whoop out much this year, the sims keep my skills sharp.
got any recommendations for a micro/nano 1s plane? once I buy some replacement motors for my meteor 75 pro Ill have three good 1102 22000kv motors I could use towards a tiny foamy if possible, plus I could use my 550mah LiHV cells

>>2940506
>Nitro is a bit fo fun to play with
I've wanted to try nitro cars but the total cost to run pushes me away. my fast stuff is already expensive enough with wear items and breakage, picrel from today
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>>2940506
>>2940511
As much as I love Multiplex, I am a Simprop and Graupner man myself (also because of how autistic Graupner was in subject selection, for example, they never made a Cub, but they made a Husky, a Wilga and a Stinson Voyager, not to mention their quad VTOL).

I found a Multiplex Smiley in Hungary (the first Multiplex foamie). I am seriously thinking of importing it along with a domestically made foamie called the Chilliplanes Yper (it is almost a box wing).

This is where they are available: https://rchungary.hu/en/

That said, these are part of a long list of stuff that I want and the Axe EZ is probably the next to be bought, unless I can negotiate a good deal on an E-Flite Sea Fury on RCGroups. It is NIB and the asking is $225, I want $175 for it. Some of those guys have treated me well and I got a NIB Parkzone Stinson Reliant for $100 on there.

My version of RF is from a disc, it is 7.5, but multiplayer works across all version, except for RFX and RF Drone, I will probably change my username to "HeadDucker". I will provide some Catbox files of a few good models for 3D (Zlin 50, Zlin 526, Katana, Cap 21 and RV-6A), plus colorschemes. Keep your eyes peeled during the week, as I will share the links then.

Thoughts on the Horizon retro re-releases of the Champ and mCx? The Champ has special value for me as that is what I learned to fly on before getting 4 channel models (I bought only Parkzone and Flyzone in those days).

Racing drones are cool, but that is an entirely different rabbit hole. I remember when multirotors was still incredibly niche before stuff like the Phantom came out. Times when people were much nicer to the hobby.

I need to order a nitro engine for a model too, probably get an Enya 29 for it.

By the way, Alfa Models are still going and there is also this company in Poland who make old school kit style models, I have two of their models and I am working (slowly) on the I-153.
https://www.napolskimniebie.pl/
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>>2940533
>old school kit style models
By that I mean like the foam kits like the ones GWS and those companies used to sell.

Now I have some new-found energy to fly, but alas, tomorrow is Monday.
>>2940523
NTA, but the Hobbyzone Champ, as per the sticky. You can find them used for $50 or sometimes less. New is $120 without the transmitter, though. I am a bit biased, but once you fly it enough, you can land on a picnic table with ease and you can even slope soar them.
Also there used to be a modding culture that was significant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9QNU9_7EMc
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?1274849-Float-kit-for-Hobbyzone-Champ
Plus many more.

I would also check out the MicroAces Scrappy and Hobbyzone Sport Cub. Some of the older Parkzone and Flyzone micros are great too, just hard to come by.

Mind telling me where you got the gondola sticker from?
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>>2940523
Everyone knows Nitro engines are very obsolete in terms of performance. Its just for funzies, the smell and the sound.
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>>2940523
I'll have to take a look at some of those graupner models..

As for 1s nano plane rcs there's a bunch.
Already mentioned are the mirco aces and minimum RC. Pictured futher up the thread is my TY model KP300 red. There's a green version with slightly different design. Its a very good flyer and can fly slow. Shop around on minimum RC to get an idea of the electronics you need. They'll end up costing about $60 usa to get in the air.
There's just so much mini/nano stuff on banggood and ali express. You can really take your pick. There's also volantex mini models. I has the volantex 761-4. It was quite good sold it. It has more speed. Going into the faster models you can find some fast but small 2s stuff with brushlless.

I have the dancing wings E23 ice cream plane but haven't built it yet.. theres a similar version of this plane umder a different name being sold on banggood..

Anyway, dont be like me and buy more than you fly..
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Here it is. Thats pretty new.

Call it the new version of e23 ice cream
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>>2940541
thanks I'll look into those.

>Mind telling me where you got the gondola sticker from?
it's an old https://kommandostore.com/ item that's not available anymore (picrel), they do have other gondola stuff tho. could email them, they may be cool enough to do a re-run of them.

>>2940570
>minimum RC
oh that's quite useful, thanks.
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>>2940583
Kommando store has gone downhill the past few years, sadly. Still not a bad store, but there is a lot of out of stock items.
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>>2940506
AnonFile is gone and Catbox is down for me, but I have some goodies for you, use the import function, it should be able to handle the .zip, but if not, open it and import the .rfx and .g3x files individually. Make sure to do the "_ea" (entire aircraft) files first.
https://anontransfer.com/d/VvpWEjfjEE

I will be posting some helicopter updates sometime in the near future (I have not bought it yet as I was waiting for my credit card term to pass). Since that is over with, I am going to buy the model this evening, when I get back home.

Otherwise, I have not done much to do with RC this week. Maybe this weekend, I will do something.
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has anybody here opened up hardcase packs for repair before?
I don't want to recycle all 4 packs (14 cells in total) over three failing cells and a broken balance connection.
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>>2940523
Get some Typhon 3s wheels, they hold up on 6s and are much much cheaper.
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New Limitless just dropped too, 120mph out of the box RTR, do want
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>>2941483
I bought some proline badlands PRO906731 to try out. and to be fair that blown tire did have a tiny sidewall tear that I glued up.
>Typhon 3s wheels
I'll keep that in mind for my next jennys order, $35 a set is pretty good.

how does the 3s typhon feel in comparison?
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>>2941503
>I bought some proline badlands PRO906731
I think I've talked about this before but I bought those exact ones for mine too and literally the first time I used the throttle, 3 of them tore off from the rims and one tyre had the foam insert rip explode into chunks, the non-belted ones can't handle 6s AT ALL, I reglued them and used them only with a 4s battery no problems but still, very disappointing for how much they cost. I could have bought 3 whole sets of 3s tyres from Jennies for what the Badlands cost. The 3s is my buddies that I used from time to time, so much lighter and easier to control but the amount of times we had to stop early and go home because his slipper clutch wore out was ridiculous. I wonder if they ever fixed that on the newer models.
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>>2941514
that's disappointing to hear, the prolines I have for my SCT have taken a shitload of abuse on a high power 3s system without issue. PRO116710 and PRO119010 if you're wondering.

do you run really thick center diff fluid? I've never felt the need to get a wheelie bar with 20k cst in the center.

>I wonder if they ever fixed that on the newer models.
223s models come with a center diff. not a fan of the all in one esc but, my friends senton is fantastic. imo all it really needs is a better motor fan.
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>>2941536
IIRC I have 250k for centre and front, 100k for rear, been a while since I've had to tear the diffs down. The wheelie bar was more to protect the wing when doing flips and even then it broke pretty quickly as it was from a 3s basher, you need the wheelie bar that bolts on to your upper wing mount from the 6s Outcasts, definitely worth it imo. Has your friend mastered two wheel driving on the Senton? Apparently it's pretty easy with that model specifically.
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>>2941559
his 4s mojave can do that easily. I don't think either of us have tired with the senton
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Should I get ev800d or Hdzero box pro?

I know DJI o-4 was the way to go but it looks like it’s going to be banned in America soon.


My thinking is you can’t ban analog
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>>2941800
They can ban one just as much or as little as they can ban the other. The fact that one is analog & the other is digital makes no difference.
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>>2937029
any tutorial on making medium size kamikaze drone?
preferably with fiber optic
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I am going to have a multiplayer session running on RealFlight for those interested. I can also help you guys with 3D and helis if you are interested.

>Server Name: diy
>Password: 4chan

I will probably have it running until 9 pm tonight EDT. I will try to have the session running all day tomorrow too during the labor day holiday.
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>>2941514
I took them out yesterday, burned through 3 4s packs. while they did drive nice once I adjusted to them (lol traction roll), they balloon more than the stock dboots. I took some slowmo video too, picrel.
maybe I'll just stick to 4s for the time being, seeing as my only 6s pack has a failing cell.
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>>2942096
6S packs are just a bitch in general
>$50 minimum
>Even the expensive ones have a shorter lifespan than 3 or 4S packs.
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>>2942096
I forgot to say they still balloon quite a lot on 4s but not enough to destroy them, it's nice if you want air control for flips but you'll find you need a pretty big jump to do one on 4s. Speaking of slow mo, you can see how the 3s 2HOs handle 6s full power like nothing
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>>2942097
desu I abused the absolute shit out of that pack, I'm surprised it's even alive at this point.
>drained to 3.1v per cell from older esc firmware with no LVC options
>dead stop collision at ~50mph
>esc fire
>motor explosion
>driveline lockup
>driving in -15F snow and +95F off road
>parking lot speedruns
>normal basher abuse

>>2942115
>air control
yeah I did notice that felt a bit different, tho I try to stay level with this car
is the 3s typhon running mojave tires? I've wanted to try those on a typhon
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>>2942194
Yep, after seeing how stupid easy it is to control mid-air with those big ass Mojaves we both switched to them and never looked back, I still use the 2HOs if we're just racing on flat ground but Fortresses for everything else.
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Where can I get the STLs for a piranha 9 drone? I have a feeling emailing some Russians and asking them for it won’t bode well for me

Kinda want to see how a PLA 6S drone handles obviously I’m not going to strap the rpg round to it
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>>2942500
>I have a feeling emailing some Russians and asking
give it a shot
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>>2941842
I am left speechless with the questions asked now days.
>acquire drone
>attach HE
congrats you are now a libritarian/terrorist/patriot/whatever
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>>2942096
I've wanted to order one of those ARMA models.. im more fond of nitro though its a complete shitshow to get it running right. I think its part of the appeal. I enjoy spending time working on
/repairing models.. those ARMA models are tough.
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>>2941481
Its that a traxxas balance connector?
Annoying.
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>>2943815
it's a fucking tank, all it really needs imo is a motor heatsink+fan, metal center diff housing, and metal center diff brace.

>>2943817
gensace gtech, works on any standard charger with a jst balance input. just has a little pin on it for their chargers to auto start at 1C and keep a cycle count.
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>>2943822
Oh thats not bad then if it goes onto to regular chargers.
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>>2942522
They just responded “Pidor”

Think it means pigeon?
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>>2943815
There's plenty of things to worry about breaking/maintaining even with electronic RC's. Fine dust/Clay getting into the diff housings and every bearing is almost always a guarantee for me. Then there's all the stuff that snaps/bends from bad landings when jumping, motors overheating and melting wires etc etc.
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>>2944145
Your car needs a bath man.
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>>2944145
I know just the trick. Compressed air, short handle edging paint brush with soft bristles... clean it up really good. Then use silicone spray lube amd brush that all in there. The silicone lube makes the car chassis and parts look nice and shiney. This is good to do if you want to sell your car.

Wheel bearings. Pop these out of the car and hold them in a pair of channel lock pliers. Spray the bearings with CRC lectra-motive cleaner spray..


this flushes them out. It even sorta works on sealed bearings. Then apply one or two drops of Parma oil or other suitable lite bearing oil.
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>>2944145
I bought a pro4 sc10 roller last year that needed a complete teardown and scrub due to fine sand in everything binding it up.
surprisingly the bearings held up till I killed them with snow
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>>2941842
glow harder
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>>2944198
I've tried restoring old bearings before, for all the time and effort involved it's so much easier to just buy another set.
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>>2944569
Oh sure I agree. Old ones should be replaced but it can hurt to do a little routing maintenance on those when you're cleaning the whole car. Also, may I add you can lift one seal off the bearing with a little pick or gasket puller if you really want to flush it out better.
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Finally, I get to have a Tamiya Mini RC without paying the boomer tax on a half-finished kit

>>2944952
I only ever get the "sealed" bearings now, it's kind of tricky to remove the rubber shielding without mutilating them. That can of CRC is like $30 here otherwise I'd get some.
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>>2944955
Oh. Theres probably some other things you could spray in there too..
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>>2944569
I only did bearing cleaning when I use to skate, even then it wasn't always worth the effort.

>>2944955
nice. tamiya kits are fun to build and upgrade. don't forget a bearing kit.
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>>2944960
I think I tried at some point packing some with marine grease but it just escapes and goes everywhere.

>>2944961
Yep, first thing I ordered with it were bearings when I saw they only came with bushings, I've read you also need metal friction balls and shims otherwise the suspension pops out but I'll see, it's only going to be driven on the concrete in my back yard. I was originally planning on making it 3-4s and brushless until I researched how fragile and basic the MB-01 chassis is, shame.
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>>2944963
I can't speak for the MB-01 but my TT-02 felt a lot better with shims on the arms, behind the wheel hexs, and a better steering setup with tamiya 54752 + a good fast servo.
>3-4s and brushless
the stock brushed setup is fine if you like tight and technical driving.
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>>2944980
Yeah 3s would be overkill for my yard anyway and end in tears with one good crash. Is that your Focus? Very nice. How many different cans of PS paint did you need for that? I only have some 20kg servos spare they should be fine as long as I set the end points before installing yeah?
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>>2944990
yeah it's mine, it's real rough now. that pic is right after I finished paint and decals last year.
3 cans in total, ps-46, backed with ps-5, ps-31 for the windows, plus some random rustolium clear for the side mirrors and wing. remember to scuff the body, I didn't and it's flaking in the areas it's had hits.
>20kg servos
yeah give the fastest one a shot at least, mines rated 12kg and it's fine. if your radio can do exponential curves put some negative on the steering too. idk about the mb-01 but mine was super twitchy on center.
I run this servo, the 0.09/60° sec transit speed is lovely and more than enough for me.
https://www.amainhobbies.com/protek-rc-100ss-standard-digital-super-speed-metal-gear-servo-ptk-100ss/p253591
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>>2944998
So if i wanted to do pic rel I'd need Racing green for body, black for the arches, white for the roof, grey for the grill and smoke for the windows sound about right? I can use the white to back it too I assume. I made he mistake not scuffing on the first body I painted, I didn't know about putting a black/white backing on it either, it came off pretty easily when rubbing on parts.
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>>2945003
yeah.
I've only done a couple bodies but I did do one where the secondary color showed through the base, like silver/black showing through the green.
assuming
>white to back it too I assume
is correct (idk lol), i'd layer it; green white, silver white, black white, smoke
check your manual and decal sheet, the top, strips and arches may be decals

https://www.tamiyausa.com/shop/110-m-chassis-cars/rc-mini-cooper-racing-2/
nvm the paints needed section just shows two, ps-1 and ps-4, you'll probably just need the base color you like and ps-1

https://www.tamiya.com/english/products/58747/index.html
this shows better pics, idk about the roof but the rest seems to be decals. good luck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNPMeJuaVko here's the video that helped me.
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>>2945011
As far as I know the roof needs to be painted white and you need paint for the wheel arches and grill. I'll wait until the car arrives I'm just trying to see what others have done and there's not much out there because of how new they are.
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>>2945011
I spent ages scouring the internet then it occurred to me to search for the model in Japanese on youtube and voila, you need 4 paints, of course I find this after ordering the paint today... I got everything but the black but it seems you can use stickers for the wheel arches and side skirts any way.
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>>2937645
deadass wanted to swich 7 inch drone motors to a 5 inch frame
i think it would be funny
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>>2945163
It would just be a slightly underwhelming 5 inch. What exactly would be funny about that?
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>100 bucks for a license
>100 bucks (a year) plus manual labor to have permission to fly on a empty field
>failure to comply results in being prosecuted like a terrorist
t-thanks Merkel & co.
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>>2946287
>German
RIP. The laws in America are never enforced. Is sub-250 also regulated.

I am preparing a list of models to look for at a swap meet next month (most are quite old and have been discontinued for a while, so chances of any of these models appearing is slim, but not impossible). Does anyone have experience with these models or any additional recommendations?
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>>2946342
>Is sub-250 also regulated.
Its so fucking confusing but yeah it looks like it is. I also couldn't find any talk about DIY outside of a club so you VILL fly with a eID ad you VILL be happy.
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>>2946346
Eh. How do they monitor it? Is anyone enforcing it? If not, play the fool. Ignorance is bliss, you know?
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I recently build a cheap profile 3d plane. I couldn't fly this worth a damn though. Now it needs repairs. It would have went better had I spent a bit more time setting up my dual rates. Actually, I had the ailerons channel revered. I rushed the maiden a bit which is always ill advised.
Anyway a few globs of gorilla glue and
It will be good as new again. The motor mount got a bit loose from a few impacts.
I will say it tends to torque roll pretty easily which is a plus. I hope i get the hand of this plane
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>>2946348
>How do they monitor it? Is anyone enforcing it?
The bored and stingy boomer like always. You cannot do shit without getting the police called on you.
i planned on DIYing a little RC plane which with all tech would cost around 60 euros. A single years worth of permits/memberships or whatever is double of that.
Its over for you unless you got established in this bureaucratic nightmare 10 years ago. Now you are just getting scammed.
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>>2946342
That list has a lot of very nice models on it.

Some of that multiplex stuff is high performance.

If you want a new multiplex you can go to mrmpx website. The pnp funjet ultra 2 is surprisingly cheap. Its a crazy high speed beast. Its not for beginners.
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>>2946352
not double. More like triple or quadruple even if you also add all the little one time fees.
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>>2946351
Check you CG, these sorts of models are very CG sensitive. Expo is your friend too. That is all that I can tell you for now without knowing the details.
>>2946352
Well, you sound German. How close are you to another country? Austria seems a bit more chill.
>>2946353
It was cheaper importing from RobotBirds before deminimis ended, but now Mr. MPX and sometimes Aloft is a great place. I know a Smiley for sale in Hungary, but I am waiting a bit before ordering it.

I have been flying fixed wing for 10 years and think that I am ready for a racer like a Funjet, Radjet, Stryker or Rare bear. Now that you mention it, I might also add the Twin Jet.

What are your thoughts on other German brands (Simprop, Graupner, Robbe, Aero-Naut, Causemann, Ikarus, etc.)?
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>>2946356
>Thoughts on other German brands

Youknow, I dont really have a ton of experience with those but id assume the quality is top notch as anything else made in Germany. I've only ever played with wingo on a simulator. Its no doubt a really good beginner plane.. for the cost its probably easier to just a chinese product.

The only German kit I have is an old multiplex blizzard thats still unassembled in my closet. Ill get to it oneday..

As far as ikarus goes again. Only ever played with the shock flyers in simulator. their design is a bit outdated from what ive read compared to newer EPP models such as twisted hobbies (crack yak mini) for example. It would still be great fun to buy one of those NOS ikarus shock flyers to build a retro kit.
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>>2946356
>Well, you sound German. How close are you to another country? Austria seems a bit more chill.
Yes i am but im not driving 100km to maybe enjoy some laxer rules. This shit came from the EU for the most part and people in clubs or associations don't really have it bad but its just so expensive for what it is. And your model NEEDS to be registered EU wide if you even dare to put a simple non-recording camera on it regardless of weight. You can, how i understand it as long as it doesn't have too much propellant, make your plane fucking rocket propelled with no issues but a camera on a device that is not flying in populated places is somehow noteworthy to be monitored..
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>>2946364
>This shit came from the EU
and what i mean by this is that unless there is some lobby in every country making the goverment reconsider, this tyranny is EU wide so you are being cucked on a more often than not basis.
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>>2946360
Yeah, but I am guessing that a used Wingo would be $60 tops, the new ones are very expensive. I will need to see, though. Thanks for your input.
>>2946364
Feels bad man. I don't know how to best help you. Are you sure that there are no loopholes or that they won't excuse ignorance as a one time thing?
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>>2946368
>Are you sure that there are no loopholes or that they won't excuse ignorance as a one time thing?
I think if you have drone insurance you can be a guest pilot at a association for some time but that would still be more expensive than the thing i wanted to make. But some places even offer free trials it seems to I'll look a little more into it. Still crazy how you need to pay anyone or register anywhere to fly a little plane.
And i wouldn't count on the police showing mercy also with how hard they are pushing this. And since this is a EU wide policy the goverment really really wants to enforce it or face penalties.
So i guess im not doing anything in the end. Or at least as long as these rules stay this way.
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>>2946368
If you can get a wingo for $60 its a nice nostalgic plane.
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>>2946375
anon, just find a field or a park to fly in while there's no one around.
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>>2946383
There is always someone somewhere. People really like their strolls around here.
And is a innocent hobby you need to hide from others or potentially face punishment really something you want to do?
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>>2946381
Yeah, I find unopened older kits in the $120-140 range and a couple of used examples in the $50-75 range with one at $100 (which still isn't that bad, in my opinion). Probably going to troll through the old Hobby People and Tower catalogues, plus archived versions of nitroplanes.com again, as I am sure that there are some Phase 3 or other models that I missed that would be nice to have.
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>>2946395
Those old foamies are even cheaper now (those that survived, that is), so I try to look for ones locally I almost bought a never flown Parkzone Artizan for $100, but that would have meant that I created an account on the Book of Faces. I am in a few RC circles and I saw someone who bought an older model (I think that it was a Guan Li) and proceeded to trash it. It makes me sad, in a sense, as I would have tried fixing it up and giving it a good home, as cheap as those Guan Lis were, they were good enough.

You are hard pressed to find foamies for $150 or less that aren't micros these days and I wouldn't say that inflation is the biggest factor (laziness and demand for gimmicks probably are). Hobbyking Glue-N-Gos were less than $20 a few years ago when they were discontinued. Call it bitching, but not every model needs retractable landing gear or flaps or lights. They are neat to have, but at the end of the day it is just added expense for what could be an easy DIY project (Parkzone made a lot of their models with modding in mind, I am planning on modding my Sport Cub to have flaps like my Stinson Reliant does).

Tower isn't what it used to be either. They were better under Hobbico, imo, especially with the print catalogues. I miss receiving those.

You only covered the tip of the iceberg as far as stores that are gone:
>Hobby People
>Hobby Lobby
>Xenon Project
>Park RC Models
>Hobbytron
>AMain (still going but it is the same as HobbyTown now)
>RCOverstock
>RCHobbyExplosion
>Weekender Warehouse (Hitec distributor)
>Grayson Hobby
>Bitgo Hobby
>The World Models
Plus a few cottage businesses like WildRC, SawnCraft and Dynamic Foamy are gone.

If you want, share some RC kino from then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8ozLD7LESU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUDuPWRiRug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weaJQWg2vk4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn7eBhwLaoQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgp3j-odseo
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>>2946406 #
Nice old videos. I found some vintage video ads. Feels the nostalgia

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xez50p

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TL4qet0yKz8 [Open]

This ones really annoying as I couldnt find the exact traxxas advert I was looking for. But that's pretty close to it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pnf_rQi4m20&pp=ygUPRWxlY3RyaXkgZ2VlYmVl [Open]

Theres your electrifly geebee

https://youtu.be/byN_-WfYE-A?si=y-9dKLbVOqSFnYLJ [Open]

https://youtu.be/Y80-u03WICA?si=V-2p66wtnbF1k2o1 [Open]

https://youtu.be/uN5BD4e55hE?si=0JOKXF2iY18imRT0
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Imma leave this here >>>/wsr/1541797
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>last time I flew was in May, picrel
Should I try going out this weekend?
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>>2946525
>should I try going out this weekend.

Depends on the wind frendo.
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>>2946542
Can only see up to Friday, but it is good across all mornings up until then.
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>>2946472
I will post some old Multiplex videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jb3Jk5X5Pv0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xAdCcz1JHQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVMh8uJfZoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqVHlP81bUw
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>>2946554
Goodluck. I often like to fly just before dusk.
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>>2946571
Thank you. It is windiest at dusk, so I fly at the crack of dawn. I still have not decided on what to take, though. My Cessna 310 needs some work done, as does one of my T-28s, so probably one biplane (Tiger Moth, Stearman or Waco), a high wing (either Cub or Stinson) and my Piper Archer.
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>>2946565
Thanks. Beautiful models. All of them.

I really like that funcopter v2. I suck at flying 3D helis but I could handle that funcopter easily. Even the wife could fly it! Just great. Maybe I will try to pick one up sometime.

Really, I need to build my blizzard first. It will certainly be the fastest model ive ever flown. I have sorta cheap hobbyking electronics for it though but its appropriate to spec.

>>2946573
Goodluck. They sound to be all great choices. I have a 3 channel thunder tiger mister mulligan thats easy going nature.
Thats an old school model too.


Flying is sorta seasonal near me. We basically are cut off from good flying in the winter months.. cold dense air makes the model aircraft handling much too choppy. Really the flying months go from spring to fall and peak in summer where Im from..
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>>2946577
Multiplex makes good stuff. I never owned one, but I know tons of guys who do or did, plus I flew a guy's Parkmaster once. Hobbyking electronics should be fine, I am going to use Banggood servos in my GWS P-40. Do you have any GWS models?

Flying is good all year here, but only in the early mornings.
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>>2946586
Onetime I had a GWS slowstick but I was very much a newb when I bought that kit. I never had a successful flight with it. I just didnt set it up right. now those NOS are somewhat collectors items. Id sure like to have a second go with it.
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>>2946997
Quite unfortunate, really, they are supposed to be really good flyers.
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>weather was supposed to be nice this morning
>charge up batteries the night before
>wake up at 5:00
>come 6:00 it rains
So no flying this weekend and I found out that one of my favorite hobby shops closed for the last time last week. Feels bad man.

Anyway, Dynam announced a new model (an E-2). Pic related.
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>>2947031 #
Its very unfortunate as the few resellers want around $150 for these NOS kits nowadays

Those kits were $30 back then. Its really too bad. I very novice at the time and didnt have the basic fundamentals of rc building/flying down yet. I hadnt the patients to set it up properly and try flying in appropriate conditions. I did had a rather nice castle creations brushed esc for it. I probably paid more for that esc alone than the whole airframe. The stock motor was a clunky brushed unit (500 size i believe) designed to run on a NiMH pack.. maybe oneday I'll splurge to try that kit again.. but $150 for that? Ooof.
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>>2947589
Patience*
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>>2947589
Aloft was selling them for $30 until recently (I am a good buddy with one of the guys who loves RC stuff from this time too). Pick up a Carbon Falcon, it is a good model that they brought back (though I do not have one, they seem to be great flyers by all accounts).

Graves might also have them in stock. I do not want to dox myself, but I am close enough to Graves for it to be a day trip. If you want/are free we could try meeting up there.

I started a bit later than you, likely (I did have some toy grade stuff when GWS was at theit height in the 2000s, but it took me six years before I got proper RC equipment. It was still a time of cheap foamies, as I am sure you know, but that was the beginning of the end and most of those companies shut their doors in the 2010s as the recession economy eventually drained those companies of customers.
I promise you that when I go to a swap meet next month, that, if I see a Slow Stick (which is not entirely unlikely) or even a Watt-Age Blue Max, then I will get it.

I have thought of creating a separate list for helicopters too, but I have not touched any sort of helicopter since 2013 (and only toy grade for that matter).

P.S: I have been eyeing this one for years: https://www.radicalrc.com/item/Radical-RC-Wicked-Wing-101320
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>>2947624 #
>meet ya there

Ya man I live in NY. Im probably too far to meet any random 4channers at graves rc in Florida. Haha.

Neat thought. We should hang on the flight simulator. Im matacks845 on steam. I dont worry too much about getting doxxed from that. Its sorta hard to identity me just from my steam username.

>I'll get the slowstick.

Get the slowstick for yourself! I like doing those old builds too. Theres plenty of nice stuff to find. I have a great planes Fling arf thats NOS never built.. I gotta get to it later.

>Radicalrc

Yea nice old-school rc website. I tried to order one of his Russian birch transmitter boxed once. Sadly he was out of stock and had to refund me. Ill just have to enjoy other peoples picutres of those beatiful transmitter cases.

If he has that model you want in stock get it!
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>>2937029
Drones are unamerican
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>>2947641
>NY
What part? I will be in NJ (Newark metro, unfortunately) around New Years, but I will not have a car then.
>matacks845 on steam
I don't have steam, any other way to contact? My E-Mail is "themachinebuilderworks@gmail.com". It is a burner account, so I am not really worried about doxxing.

Chances are that Graves has some Radical stock too, they used to have their products as well as Millennium's at one point (Millennium made the balsa slow stick kits), but I do not know if that is still the case.
>>2947644
>drones
Perhaps, but we are mostly just RC guys there are not nearly as many drone guys as there was.
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>>2947662 #
Im good man. Im old. I dont exaclty try to make friends with randos on the it internet. Really at my age im perfectly content not having any friends because most people suck.. im really happy this way. I worked very hard over the years to not have any friends.

now, there are business relationships that people make. You can makes friends with a guy but also are trying to make money together, now that could be worth while. Otherwise I have no time for being friends with other dudes. Im busy enough between my family life and professional things..

If anytging id try to make some RC friends who are local so I can get access to flying sites.. its been a limiting factor for me. Im getting bored of flying around micros in my backyard. Id really like to find some big flyng feilds and or clubs.

But sure man, I got your email.. id tool around in a sim with ya..
But shit. I have hardly any time to.play with my damn PC.
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>>2947705
I understand. I still have some years ahead of me and I am still quite green in the world, but I know what you mean about people and friends. Most of the people that I know who fly at the park are quite old, in fact, we lost another guy the other day, who was our only link between the club and us as he flew both in the park and at a club. He was 94, but the cause of death was cancer, rather than natural causes. If it wasn't for that, he would likely have reached 100. A lot of the guys are older (if it was not for me, the youngest there would have been guys drafted to fight in Vietnam).

Truth be told the main reason why I am going North is to take care of my grandmother as her health is failing. My hope was to take a trip to a hobby shop at one point and just take a few hours off, when she is in the lobby playing games with the people in her senior complex, but that store shut its doors for good last week.

Chances are that for most of us, we will be alone just because the hobby is getting older. I used to fly alone too from 2014-2019 and again for a period in 2023 (I left this area because the area a block away wound up on the news because of a series of killings, though the suspect was caught and imprisoned, I have not returned).

I know what you mean though, growing up I had no friends and to this day, I still have none.

If I were you, I would just fly in a local park, nobody has ever bothered me at a park.
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>>2947709
You know what it is. I have a kid and wife. They consume so much of my time then work and immediate (sometimes extened) family uses the rest.

Im not agaisnt having friends per se but i just dont have the time . I had many friends when i was younger. I still maintain contacts with many of these people though we never hang out.
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>>2947712
>kid and wife
I had a feeling that is what you meant by family. I still have to take care of my aging parents and no real prospect of a gf right now (I still have time, besides, I think that this one girl likes me at this restaurant that I frequent, but I still have yet to really approach her). Mind you, that is a bit of a tangent, plus I have not stopped by in a few weeks because of my schedule, but I should have a chance tomorrow.

Chances are that I will be away for a few days, but I will probably come back and post some repairs that I have done on my Cessna 310 after I bumped into it and knocked off the wingtip fuel tank.
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>>2947719 #
Youknow what's a great way to get a Gf? Its having money and or a house. Then you'll be beating them off with a stick. Those whamen really like a guy with a house. An apartment is ok but a house it better.

All you gotta say is "I gotta a house (or apt)". "Wanna come over to watch a movie?"

Thats all the rizz moves you need. Presto. Pantsu. Sexu.

Oh sometimes you gotta go out to dinner with them once first before that move. Sometimes that one works straight from bar .

God I wish I was single again. That would be fun. Wife isn't too keen on me having a side girl. Lame...
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>>2947727
I missed this, a house definitely would help. That said, in my absence, I met a girl and we are talking. A bit too far away to meet up, though (I met her through a classmate).

These are some new additions to the list that I made.
And a couple of videos for you:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_nYmzdLNLs
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sfVoxYEALU
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>>2948357
I forgot to mention that the Cessna 310 is fixed. Hopefully the weather will be good enough to fly it over the weekend.
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Can someone help me get gud with piloting the Syma X5C? Any tips or tricks ?
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>>2948683
Fly stabilized and then once you are comfortable, teach yourself to hover first. Put a little mark on the front to help with orientation, then once you have hovering down start doing forward flight and turns, once you have that mastered, it is time to start learning aerobatics.

This is easier said than done, by the way, but orientation is key, get that down and things should be relatively natural.
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forgot to turn LVC back on and damaged one of my shitty 2s packs.

guess I'm making something to put it down tomorrow.



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