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In /rcg/ we discuss anything & everything remote controlled - multirotors, fixed wing, cars, rovers, helis, boats, submarines, battlebots, lawnmowers, etc.

>How do I get started with racing drones?
https://oscarliang.com/mini-quad-racing-guide/
https://www.fpvknowitall.com/ultimate-fpv-shopping-list/

> How to build a racing drone (16 part video series from Joshua Bardwell)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwoDb7WF6c8mWARrcxtX_G6yytK7QFHID

>What about planes?
https://www.flitetest.com/

>What about aerial photography, is DIY viable?
Buy a DJI if what you actually want is to take good photos/videos, go DIY if what you actually want is a fun project.

>I want a cheap RC training plane that is turnkey.
XK Beaver
Eachine Wing Dragon
OMPHobby T720
Hobbyzone Champ (used only)

>I want a good FPV fixed wing platform.
ZOHD Drift
Sonicmodell AR Wing
Finwing Albabird

>I want a basher fixed wing model for doing crazy shit that is easily repairable.
RCFactory, Hacker and other similar profile models

>I want a dirt cheap drone to fly around my yard/garden
Syma X5C

>I want a dirt cheap drone to fly inside my house
Eachine E010/Hubsan X4

>What are some good YouTube channels for learning or fun?
Joshua Bardwell - https://www.youtube.com/@JoshuaBardwell
Painless360 - https://www.youtube.com/@Painless360
Flite Test - https://www.youtube.com/@FliteTest
Peter Sripol - https://www.youtube.com/@PeterSripol
RCModelReviews - https://www.youtube.com/@RCModelReviews
Andrew Newton - https://www.youtube.com/@AndrewNewton
RCGutt - https://www.youtube.com/@rcgutt
RC Test Flight - https://www.youtube.com/@rctestflight
Think Flight - https://www.youtube.com/@thinkflight
Tail Heavy Productions - https://www.youtube.com/@TailHeavyProductions

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If I swapped the motors/electronics from a 6" build onto a 7" frame is there any chance I could use the same BF tune with both prop sizes and just switch between 4s and 6s? Motors are Brotherhobby Avenger 2507 1850kv.
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>plug in lipo
>one cell's at 0V
at least it's under warranty, I guess.
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I wanna know how to build a drone like the Ukrainians use against the ruZZians. That's a real drone and the rest of this stuff is garbage. That's what we should all be building and learning to fly. We're gonna need that skill as a society soon when WW3 expands since it's already been going on since ruZZia invaded Ukraine.
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>>2938923
as far as I know the kamakaze ones are basically hobby ones anyone could build, with a few aux controls to detonate/drop explosives.
the only real oddball thing about the current ones is the fiber optic control links they run in areas with jammers.
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>>2938923
I bought one kit similar to this for 80eur last month, later saw the same frame and flight controller on ukraine video footage with an RPG-like warhead underneath being prepared for launch
Most of them seem to be 7" or 10" frames

The only expensive part is the fiber optic wire control, but that's optional
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>>2939065
Nice! Now we're talking. What kind of radio and FPV goggles are you using for this?
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>>2939028
Is there an open source flight sim for drones? If not open source, what is a good commercial flight sim?
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>>2937645
Can you? Yes. Should you? That depends. It's best to current draw test unknown prop combos, but frequently there are tests of what you want to do already available if you just google it.
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>>2939076
velocidrone or liftoff
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>>2938923
i just finished picrel today, going to test it tomorrow, hopefully i dont kill it lmao.
its 8" running ardupilot on a maetek h7a3 board with some analog vtx
also built a 6s 21700 pack to use with it for long range stuff in the mountains behind my house
>>2939076
im not sure about open source but fpv skydive on steam is free and its pretty decent
theres a not a lot of stuff you can fly for free, and they have a lot of pay shit too
apparently i bought uncrashed on steam years ago and thats what i use these days
it's pretty good but its $15, but you do get everything no extra pay shit.
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>>2938923
>That's a real drone and the rest of this stuff is garbage.

They literally fly *exactly* the same builds we fly for fun. Same frames, same motors, same FCs/ESCs, same FPV equipment, same transmitters, all the same manufacturers, etc.

Literally the only difference is they strap on a fiber optic reel while we just use ELRS.

Even the stuff they make in house from scratch is the same we make as hobbyists. Picrelated on the left is one of my custom frame designs from a few years before the war, middle/right is a Ukrainian custom design.
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>>2939167
Thanks Anon! I will have to look into these!
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>>2939171
Nice! I wish you the best with your testing. Looks cool and I admire your skills.

I appreciate your input on FPV Skydive too. Thank you.
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>>2939188
Alright, very valid point and to a degree I retort and appreciate your input. I'm not talking these home made carbon fiber drones, I'm talking about all the store bought pre-assembled and neutered stuff with geofencing and other limits mandated for hobbyists. Even DJI stuff that's not on the professional end of size and lifting power. Syma drones too (I have one and it's crap but it was cheap and my first learning quad) but it's utterly useless in wind and I regret buying it.

To be honest, it was because of all you hobbyists that this whole quadcopter (or X props copters) blew up and became a thing. So I appreciate that a lot and respect it. You guys grew this genre and have now helped change the face of warfare forever. Can't put that genie back in the bottle now.

They're even teaching ordinary citizens in Europe in certain countries that border ruZZia to fly these drones because of the illegal war against Ukraine in preparation for the same to happen to them. That's what I'm interested in.
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Imagine what you can all do if you had Red Bull like dollars to fund you...

https://www.redbull.com/ca-en/drone-pilot-vs-f1-driver-interview
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>>2939171
>>2939270
first flight went pretty well all things considered.
i couldnt get the compass right so i disabled it,
the elevator was reversed which i knew ardupilot was weird with that but i forgot to check it.
just reversed it real quick and then flew around for a bit, but the tune was terrible out of the box
got a lot of work to do on that
sounded like a humming bird going into a wood chipper but still flew pretty well actually and way quieter than smaller ones.
it hovers at about 10% throttle so maybe a tad overpowered which i like.
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>>2939278
It is a pretty weird feeling when I watch the news & see pictures of quads identical to the ones I have on my shelves at home, but in the context of deadly weapons.

Similarly weird knowing that if I lived in Ukraine, I would almost certainly have been recruited to build & fly quads for the army.
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Are these ebooks of interest to anyone? There seems to be a lot in other languages than English though.
https://www.scribd.com/search?query=drones

There is a way to extract them if you want them.
https://scribd.vdownloaders.com/
It's a bit of a multi-stage process and captcha wait but they come out uncompressed. Just as good as the upload.
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I bought a cheap vrx/vtx combo in 2014, and am finally getting into it, and I understand vrxs have gotten better i.e. diversity, but have vtxs? It's a boscam ts351 and rc805. Any reason to upgrade the ts351 other than weight or nah? Weight is not that big a deal for me as this will be for a 5 lb car. I bought a skyzone cobra x and it's great vs the RC805.
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>>2939642
VTXs have become more powerful and gained things like smartaudio, tramp which allow you to control the VTX remotely, and pit modes. Old VTXs are still fine if you're not pressed for space, weight, or looking to go very far, but even a VTX from 5-7 years ago is probably going to be more powerful and have more features than one from 2014.
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>>2939072
>Nice! Now we're talking. What kind of radio and FPV goggles are you using for this?
Using my ancient Flysky FS-i6x that I had lying around, only been learning to fly line of sight for now
with those prop guards https://www.pcbway.com/project/shareproject/Propeller_Guards_for_Mk4_7_inch_Drone_38071821.html

Bought the cheap eachine 800D clone goggles and the camera+vtx from https://oscarliang.com/150-dollar-7inch-fpv-drone/, will arrive in a couple of weeks
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>>2939076
>>2939268
I've managed to pirate liftoff, uncrashed and tryp

Uncrashed is pretty bad
Liftoff is okay
I like Tryp the most because there are a few big maps with different scenary while the others limit you to a pretty small area

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:e5c4472ad73f20b51b52a548af75d1f269bf8861&dn=TRYP%20FPV&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337%2Fannounce
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:0ef06180c2509899bbd811efc1bd0c5e84d42cfb&dn=Liftoff
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>>2939188
How good are fiberoptic video transmitters? I want to make an ROV. Wireless doesn't work underwater
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>>2939989
Considering that literally every commercial ROV uses a tether, I’d wager that they work quite well.
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>>2937029
Is there a small relatively inexpensive self flying drone that I can program to chase mosquitos and flies?
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>>2939990
I mean fiberoptic video transmitters for FPV drones. They're cheap on aliexpress. I'm wondering about how well the cheap ones work with the cable flopping around. Fiberoptics attenuate more when the cable bends
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I've been a radio control hobbyist for nearly 20 years. Unfortunately in all my years of experience i never advanced very far due to my lack of access to flying sites. Were it not for that I would have done a little more.

I find joy in flying nano sized models that I can fly around in my backyard, though the models themselves are not the most impressive. I ha e a closet full of unbuot model kits.
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>>2940009
Do you clean up the fiber optics when you’re done or just leave it?

THEY are banning access to drones for goyims, I’m sure THEY will ban fiber optic drones next over the “trash concerns”


By they I mean the banks
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>>2940369
I know that feel. I went flying today for the first time in over a year, had to drive 45 minutes then hike another 20 minutes.
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>>2940369
Same here, but just a little shy of you in terms of years of experience (about 17 years at this point) across both fixed wing and helicopters. My yard is not even big enough for those types of models that you mention, though.

I used to have a flying site, but I left because I was paying $175 per year to only fly maybe once every quarter or so. So I left the local and AMA membership.

I travel about 45 minutes away to a park which is big enough, then walk for about ten minutes to an open field. I have not flown since June and before that was March (twice). This morning was likely my last chance until October and I think that I might have other priorities then, so it might not be until late November or even the middle of December when I can fly again.

What is even more embarrassing is that someone who has been doing RC for five to seven years could out-fly me, whereas I cannot do aerobatics. I focus on never crashing as I do not have the money for spare parts, let alone a replacement (though I have enough saved from the past two years to go to a swap meet and pick up some spare parts, or maybe a model or two). When half of the models that you fly are over a decade old, spare part availability is always questionable at best (except for Dynam, who still have the same models in there catalogue).

My kit stash (of shame):
>GWS P-40
>NaPolskimNiebie I-153
>NaPolskimNiebie Zlin Z-50
ARFs:
>Maxford USA Curtiss Pusher
>Phoenix Model Sonic Low Wing
Secondhand restoration projects:
>Ares P-51D (almost airworthy)
>E-Flite X-Vert (needs a radio compatible, but now I have a DX6i for it)
>Unknown Micro Quad (TinyWhoop/Inductrix type of craft)
>Flyzone Mini Switch
>Hobbyking Stinger 64mm (the original red one)
>Spektrum FPV set (which I think was made by Fat Shark, back when they were at their height)
Plus about 50 plastic model kits.

OP, if you want something nice, you should look into MicroAces and MinimumRC, they have some very lovely looking kits in your size.
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>>2940406
The picture here is of my Sukhoi Su-29, by the way. It is an older E-Flite model bought in October of 2019. These were good value despite being from Horizon, since for $200, you got 13g metal gear digital servos, which comparable offerings from RocHobby (the MXS), FMS (the Edge 540, etc) and Flyzone (Extra 330) did not give you for about the same amount of money or even more. When I was flying more frequently (once every two months instead of once every 3-5 months), I was coordinated enough to do stuff like loops and rolls.

>Actually buying a Horizon product

Oh yeah, any fellow fixed wing boomers want me to pick up and send stuff to you from the swap meet, if you need spares and the like.
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>be me
>want to upgrade to dji fpv shit but its banned, and the chinks wont ship to the us now
>fuck it ill just stay analog and get a gopro
>buy gopro for $430 a couple days ago
>it gets here yesterday
>go to set it up on their website, its on sale for $330
>WTF.jpg
>start a return immediately
>order another for $100 less
fucking annoying but 100 bucks is 100 bucks
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>>2940406 #
I know you what mean. I was first attracted to the hobby by seeing 3d but never really got gud..

I still have my great planes yak 54 ep.
Its in a state of disrepair. Needs a little repair to the vertical stab butbit can be made air worthy again. Its a really old 3D arf made woth wood construction. I only ever flew it a handful of times.

You'd be surprised how small of a space thay TY model nano stack plane can fly. The wing and landing gear pops off. I packed them up to a shoe box and brought it to the camp grounds on vacation. It could be flown around in a very small circle around our camp site.
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>>2940464
I know the one, blue white and red, Yak, if my memory serves me right.

When I was starting fixed wing ~10 years ago, the goal was to do IMAC or pattern. I am nowhere near precise enough and the trends in aerobatic aircraft have shifted. I miss those days of 3D (2000s especially). I still watch some of the old demonstrations from that time, the new guys are not that smooth, they do too many snap rolls and tumbles, which are hard maneuvers to control. Also they fly the same two aircraft always. It is either a Slick or a Laser these days. It has been years since I have since a Yak, Sukhoi, Ultimate or Cap compete in these competitions.

>Great Planes
I miss Hobbico so much. They had several models that I wanted, but never got (especially the Electrifly Gee Bee).

I have thought about getting this NOS Heli-Max Axe EZ that I found for flying indoors and in the yard, but it uses NiMH packs, if my memory serves me right, which I do not mind using, I just need to get some.

Do you have RealFlight? I will set-up a session next weekend/Friday evening. I can do some 3D pretty well, but I will need for you to download a couple of models. Simulators are far from perfect, but it should help you learn.

I would also suggest checking out RA Cores, they have a cheap Yak that seems perfect for learning to hover on.
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>>2940492
Also, excuse the Plebbit spacing, my apologies. Have a screencap of a Tower catalogue that I saved to my computer...
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Thats the one. Its been hanging on my wall for years. Its been calling me to fly it. With my luck I'll just lawn dart it on Its re-maiden. But id certainly do alot of sim practice and transmitter setup in attempt to avoid that.

I too like collecting NOS stuff. I bought a few NOS items for nostalgia. I have a really cool thunder tiger mister mulligan park flyer foam model. Never built. That was crazy hard to get. Im almost on the fence about building it becuase I think its valuable.
>pic rel/ not mine
I also have an old eflight blade cp pro with brushed motor. Its got a white, gray and blue canopy. Its 120 size.

I've done a little bit basic heli flying but never got the hang of 3d. I have a blade nano S3 for practice in the backyard.

Other stuff I have, a lot of traxxas nitro models. I like collecting the 3.3 ones. Nitro is a bit fo fun to play with amd ive always fancied the idea of having a really nice hanger9 warbird with glow engine. So the nitro experience on cars wjth help there. again, I just need a flying site...

Sure I have some sims. All mine are bootlegs but I have real flight 5 or 7? I may purchased a copy on steam too.
Anyways. My steam handle is matacks845. Sure id join some RC gameplay. Hehe. Thats if I can find the time for some gaming session.

So the kids nowadays like these racing drones. Its pretty sweet desu. I've bought the parts to build one by following the guide for the $100 build on uavfutures youtubes.. Again, its been sitting in boxes. The big barrier to entry for
there is the headset. instead I have a small lcd display that i can rig it up to.
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>>2940496
Dude plebbit space all yku want.. who gives a shit?

I have multiplex blizzard.. best German made foam models. Never built. :/
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>>2940369
get a simulator for stick time anon. I haven't been able to take my (now busted) whoop out much this year, the sims keep my skills sharp.
got any recommendations for a micro/nano 1s plane? once I buy some replacement motors for my meteor 75 pro Ill have three good 1102 22000kv motors I could use towards a tiny foamy if possible, plus I could use my 550mah LiHV cells

>>2940506
>Nitro is a bit fo fun to play with
I've wanted to try nitro cars but the total cost to run pushes me away. my fast stuff is already expensive enough with wear items and breakage, picrel from today
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>>2940506
>>2940511
As much as I love Multiplex, I am a Simprop and Graupner man myself (also because of how autistic Graupner was in subject selection, for example, they never made a Cub, but they made a Husky, a Wilga and a Stinson Voyager, not to mention their quad VTOL).

I found a Multiplex Smiley in Hungary (the first Multiplex foamie). I am seriously thinking of importing it along with a domestically made foamie called the Chilliplanes Yper (it is almost a box wing).

This is where they are available: https://rchungary.hu/en/

That said, these are part of a long list of stuff that I want and the Axe EZ is probably the next to be bought, unless I can negotiate a good deal on an E-Flite Sea Fury on RCGroups. It is NIB and the asking is $225, I want $175 for it. Some of those guys have treated me well and I got a NIB Parkzone Stinson Reliant for $100 on there.

My version of RF is from a disc, it is 7.5, but multiplayer works across all version, except for RFX and RF Drone, I will probably change my username to "HeadDucker". I will provide some Catbox files of a few good models for 3D (Zlin 50, Zlin 526, Katana, Cap 21 and RV-6A), plus colorschemes. Keep your eyes peeled during the week, as I will share the links then.

Thoughts on the Horizon retro re-releases of the Champ and mCx? The Champ has special value for me as that is what I learned to fly on before getting 4 channel models (I bought only Parkzone and Flyzone in those days).

Racing drones are cool, but that is an entirely different rabbit hole. I remember when multirotors was still incredibly niche before stuff like the Phantom came out. Times when people were much nicer to the hobby.

I need to order a nitro engine for a model too, probably get an Enya 29 for it.

By the way, Alfa Models are still going and there is also this company in Poland who make old school kit style models, I have two of their models and I am working (slowly) on the I-153.
https://www.napolskimniebie.pl/
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>>2940533
>old school kit style models
By that I mean like the foam kits like the ones GWS and those companies used to sell.

Now I have some new-found energy to fly, but alas, tomorrow is Monday.
>>2940523
NTA, but the Hobbyzone Champ, as per the sticky. You can find them used for $50 or sometimes less. New is $120 without the transmitter, though. I am a bit biased, but once you fly it enough, you can land on a picnic table with ease and you can even slope soar them.
Also there used to be a modding culture that was significant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9QNU9_7EMc
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?1274849-Float-kit-for-Hobbyzone-Champ
Plus many more.

I would also check out the MicroAces Scrappy and Hobbyzone Sport Cub. Some of the older Parkzone and Flyzone micros are great too, just hard to come by.

Mind telling me where you got the gondola sticker from?
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>>2940523
Everyone knows Nitro engines are very obsolete in terms of performance. Its just for funzies, the smell and the sound.
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>>2940523
I'll have to take a look at some of those graupner models..

As for 1s nano plane rcs there's a bunch.
Already mentioned are the mirco aces and minimum RC. Pictured futher up the thread is my TY model KP300 red. There's a green version with slightly different design. Its a very good flyer and can fly slow. Shop around on minimum RC to get an idea of the electronics you need. They'll end up costing about $60 usa to get in the air.
There's just so much mini/nano stuff on banggood and ali express. You can really take your pick. There's also volantex mini models. I has the volantex 761-4. It was quite good sold it. It has more speed. Going into the faster models you can find some fast but small 2s stuff with brushlless.

I have the dancing wings E23 ice cream plane but haven't built it yet.. theres a similar version of this plane umder a different name being sold on banggood..

Anyway, dont be like me and buy more than you fly..
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Here it is. Thats pretty new.

Call it the new version of e23 ice cream
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>>2940541
thanks I'll look into those.

>Mind telling me where you got the gondola sticker from?
it's an old https://kommandostore.com/ item that's not available anymore (picrel), they do have other gondola stuff tho. could email them, they may be cool enough to do a re-run of them.

>>2940570
>minimum RC
oh that's quite useful, thanks.
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>>2940583
Kommando store has gone downhill the past few years, sadly. Still not a bad store, but there is a lot of out of stock items.
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>>2940506
AnonFile is gone and Catbox is down for me, but I have some goodies for you, use the import function, it should be able to handle the .zip, but if not, open it and import the .rfx and .g3x files individually. Make sure to do the "_ea" (entire aircraft) files first.
https://anontransfer.com/d/VvpWEjfjEE

I will be posting some helicopter updates sometime in the near future (I have not bought it yet as I was waiting for my credit card term to pass). Since that is over with, I am going to buy the model this evening, when I get back home.

Otherwise, I have not done much to do with RC this week. Maybe this weekend, I will do something.
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has anybody here opened up hardcase packs for repair before?
I don't want to recycle all 4 packs (14 cells in total) over three failing cells and a broken balance connection.
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>>2940523
Get some Typhon 3s wheels, they hold up on 6s and are much much cheaper.
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New Limitless just dropped too, 120mph out of the box RTR, do want
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>>2941483
I bought some proline badlands PRO906731 to try out. and to be fair that blown tire did have a tiny sidewall tear that I glued up.
>Typhon 3s wheels
I'll keep that in mind for my next jennys order, $35 a set is pretty good.

how does the 3s typhon feel in comparison?
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>>2941503
>I bought some proline badlands PRO906731
I think I've talked about this before but I bought those exact ones for mine too and literally the first time I used the throttle, 3 of them tore off from the rims and one tyre had the foam insert rip explode into chunks, the non-belted ones can't handle 6s AT ALL, I reglued them and used them only with a 4s battery no problems but still, very disappointing for how much they cost. I could have bought 3 whole sets of 3s tyres from Jennies for what the Badlands cost. The 3s is my buddies that I used from time to time, so much lighter and easier to control but the amount of times we had to stop early and go home because his slipper clutch wore out was ridiculous. I wonder if they ever fixed that on the newer models.
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>>2941514
that's disappointing to hear, the prolines I have for my SCT have taken a shitload of abuse on a high power 3s system without issue. PRO116710 and PRO119010 if you're wondering.

do you run really thick center diff fluid? I've never felt the need to get a wheelie bar with 20k cst in the center.

>I wonder if they ever fixed that on the newer models.
223s models come with a center diff. not a fan of the all in one esc but, my friends senton is fantastic. imo all it really needs is a better motor fan.
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>>2941536
IIRC I have 250k for centre and front, 100k for rear, been a while since I've had to tear the diffs down. The wheelie bar was more to protect the wing when doing flips and even then it broke pretty quickly as it was from a 3s basher, you need the wheelie bar that bolts on to your upper wing mount from the 6s Outcasts, definitely worth it imo. Has your friend mastered two wheel driving on the Senton? Apparently it's pretty easy with that model specifically.
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>>2941559
his 4s mojave can do that easily. I don't think either of us have tired with the senton
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Should I get ev800d or Hdzero box pro?

I know DJI o-4 was the way to go but it looks like it’s going to be banned in America soon.


My thinking is you can’t ban analog
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>>2941800
They can ban one just as much or as little as they can ban the other. The fact that one is analog & the other is digital makes no difference.
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>>2937029
any tutorial on making medium size kamikaze drone?
preferably with fiber optic
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I am going to have a multiplayer session running on RealFlight for those interested. I can also help you guys with 3D and helis if you are interested.

>Server Name: diy
>Password: 4chan

I will probably have it running until 9 pm tonight EDT. I will try to have the session running all day tomorrow too during the labor day holiday.
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>>2941514
I took them out yesterday, burned through 3 4s packs. while they did drive nice once I adjusted to them (lol traction roll), they balloon more than the stock dboots. I took some slowmo video too, picrel.
maybe I'll just stick to 4s for the time being, seeing as my only 6s pack has a failing cell.
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>>2942096
6S packs are just a bitch in general
>$50 minimum
>Even the expensive ones have a shorter lifespan than 3 or 4S packs.
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>>2942096
I forgot to say they still balloon quite a lot on 4s but not enough to destroy them, it's nice if you want air control for flips but you'll find you need a pretty big jump to do one on 4s. Speaking of slow mo, you can see how the 3s 2HOs handle 6s full power like nothing
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>>2942097
desu I abused the absolute shit out of that pack, I'm surprised it's even alive at this point.
>drained to 3.1v per cell from older esc firmware with no LVC options
>dead stop collision at ~50mph
>esc fire
>motor explosion
>driveline lockup
>driving in -15F snow and +95F off road
>parking lot speedruns
>normal basher abuse

>>2942115
>air control
yeah I did notice that felt a bit different, tho I try to stay level with this car
is the 3s typhon running mojave tires? I've wanted to try those on a typhon
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>>2942194
Yep, after seeing how stupid easy it is to control mid-air with those big ass Mojaves we both switched to them and never looked back, I still use the 2HOs if we're just racing on flat ground but Fortresses for everything else.
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Where can I get the STLs for a piranha 9 drone? I have a feeling emailing some Russians and asking them for it won’t bode well for me

Kinda want to see how a PLA 6S drone handles obviously I’m not going to strap the rpg round to it
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>>2942500
>I have a feeling emailing some Russians and asking
give it a shot
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>>2941842
I am left speechless with the questions asked now days.
>acquire drone
>attach HE
congrats you are now a libritarian/terrorist/patriot/whatever
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>>2942096
I've wanted to order one of those ARMA models.. im more fond of nitro though its a complete shitshow to get it running right. I think its part of the appeal. I enjoy spending time working on
/repairing models.. those ARMA models are tough.
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>>2941481
Its that a traxxas balance connector?
Annoying.
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>>2943815
it's a fucking tank, all it really needs imo is a motor heatsink+fan, metal center diff housing, and metal center diff brace.

>>2943817
gensace gtech, works on any standard charger with a jst balance input. just has a little pin on it for their chargers to auto start at 1C and keep a cycle count.
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>>2943822
Oh thats not bad then if it goes onto to regular chargers.
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>>2942522
They just responded “Pidor”

Think it means pigeon?
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>>2943815
There's plenty of things to worry about breaking/maintaining even with electronic RC's. Fine dust/Clay getting into the diff housings and every bearing is almost always a guarantee for me. Then there's all the stuff that snaps/bends from bad landings when jumping, motors overheating and melting wires etc etc.
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>>2944145
Your car needs a bath man.
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>>2944145
I know just the trick. Compressed air, short handle edging paint brush with soft bristles... clean it up really good. Then use silicone spray lube amd brush that all in there. The silicone lube makes the car chassis and parts look nice and shiney. This is good to do if you want to sell your car.

Wheel bearings. Pop these out of the car and hold them in a pair of channel lock pliers. Spray the bearings with CRC lectra-motive cleaner spray..


this flushes them out. It even sorta works on sealed bearings. Then apply one or two drops of Parma oil or other suitable lite bearing oil.
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>>2944145
I bought a pro4 sc10 roller last year that needed a complete teardown and scrub due to fine sand in everything binding it up.
surprisingly the bearings held up till I killed them with snow
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>>2941842
glow harder
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>>2944198
I've tried restoring old bearings before, for all the time and effort involved it's so much easier to just buy another set.
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>>2944569
Oh sure I agree. Old ones should be replaced but it can hurt to do a little routing maintenance on those when you're cleaning the whole car. Also, may I add you can lift one seal off the bearing with a little pick or gasket puller if you really want to flush it out better.
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Finally, I get to have a Tamiya Mini RC without paying the boomer tax on a half-finished kit

>>2944952
I only ever get the "sealed" bearings now, it's kind of tricky to remove the rubber shielding without mutilating them. That can of CRC is like $30 here otherwise I'd get some.
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>>2944955
Oh. Theres probably some other things you could spray in there too..
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>>2944569
I only did bearing cleaning when I use to skate, even then it wasn't always worth the effort.

>>2944955
nice. tamiya kits are fun to build and upgrade. don't forget a bearing kit.
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>>2944960
I think I tried at some point packing some with marine grease but it just escapes and goes everywhere.

>>2944961
Yep, first thing I ordered with it were bearings when I saw they only came with bushings, I've read you also need metal friction balls and shims otherwise the suspension pops out but I'll see, it's only going to be driven on the concrete in my back yard. I was originally planning on making it 3-4s and brushless until I researched how fragile and basic the MB-01 chassis is, shame.
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>>2944963
I can't speak for the MB-01 but my TT-02 felt a lot better with shims on the arms, behind the wheel hexs, and a better steering setup with tamiya 54752 + a good fast servo.
>3-4s and brushless
the stock brushed setup is fine if you like tight and technical driving.
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>>2944980
Yeah 3s would be overkill for my yard anyway and end in tears with one good crash. Is that your Focus? Very nice. How many different cans of PS paint did you need for that? I only have some 20kg servos spare they should be fine as long as I set the end points before installing yeah?
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>>2944990
yeah it's mine, it's real rough now. that pic is right after I finished paint and decals last year.
3 cans in total, ps-46, backed with ps-5, ps-31 for the windows, plus some random rustolium clear for the side mirrors and wing. remember to scuff the body, I didn't and it's flaking in the areas it's had hits.
>20kg servos
yeah give the fastest one a shot at least, mines rated 12kg and it's fine. if your radio can do exponential curves put some negative on the steering too. idk about the mb-01 but mine was super twitchy on center.
I run this servo, the 0.09/60° sec transit speed is lovely and more than enough for me.
https://www.amainhobbies.com/protek-rc-100ss-standard-digital-super-speed-metal-gear-servo-ptk-100ss/p253591
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>>2944998
So if i wanted to do pic rel I'd need Racing green for body, black for the arches, white for the roof, grey for the grill and smoke for the windows sound about right? I can use the white to back it too I assume. I made he mistake not scuffing on the first body I painted, I didn't know about putting a black/white backing on it either, it came off pretty easily when rubbing on parts.
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>>2945003
yeah.
I've only done a couple bodies but I did do one where the secondary color showed through the base, like silver/black showing through the green.
assuming
>white to back it too I assume
is correct (idk lol), i'd layer it; green white, silver white, black white, smoke
check your manual and decal sheet, the top, strips and arches may be decals

https://www.tamiyausa.com/shop/110-m-chassis-cars/rc-mini-cooper-racing-2/
nvm the paints needed section just shows two, ps-1 and ps-4, you'll probably just need the base color you like and ps-1

https://www.tamiya.com/english/products/58747/index.html
this shows better pics, idk about the roof but the rest seems to be decals. good luck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNPMeJuaVko here's the video that helped me.
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>>2945011
As far as I know the roof needs to be painted white and you need paint for the wheel arches and grill. I'll wait until the car arrives I'm just trying to see what others have done and there's not much out there because of how new they are.
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>>2945011
I spent ages scouring the internet then it occurred to me to search for the model in Japanese on youtube and voila, you need 4 paints, of course I find this after ordering the paint today... I got everything but the black but it seems you can use stickers for the wheel arches and side skirts any way.
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>>2937645
deadass wanted to swich 7 inch drone motors to a 5 inch frame
i think it would be funny
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>>2945163
It would just be a slightly underwhelming 5 inch. What exactly would be funny about that?
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>100 bucks for a license
>100 bucks (a year) plus manual labor to have permission to fly on a empty field
>failure to comply results in being prosecuted like a terrorist
t-thanks Merkel & co.
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>>2946287
>German
RIP. The laws in America are never enforced. Is sub-250 also regulated.

I am preparing a list of models to look for at a swap meet next month (most are quite old and have been discontinued for a while, so chances of any of these models appearing is slim, but not impossible). Does anyone have experience with these models or any additional recommendations?
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>>2946342
>Is sub-250 also regulated.
Its so fucking confusing but yeah it looks like it is. I also couldn't find any talk about DIY outside of a club so you VILL fly with a eID ad you VILL be happy.
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>>2946346
Eh. How do they monitor it? Is anyone enforcing it? If not, play the fool. Ignorance is bliss, you know?
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I recently build a cheap profile 3d plane. I couldn't fly this worth a damn though. Now it needs repairs. It would have went better had I spent a bit more time setting up my dual rates. Actually, I had the ailerons channel revered. I rushed the maiden a bit which is always ill advised.
Anyway a few globs of gorilla glue and
It will be good as new again. The motor mount got a bit loose from a few impacts.
I will say it tends to torque roll pretty easily which is a plus. I hope i get the hand of this plane
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>>2946348
>How do they monitor it? Is anyone enforcing it?
The bored and stingy boomer like always. You cannot do shit without getting the police called on you.
i planned on DIYing a little RC plane which with all tech would cost around 60 euros. A single years worth of permits/memberships or whatever is double of that.
Its over for you unless you got established in this bureaucratic nightmare 10 years ago. Now you are just getting scammed.
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>>2946342
That list has a lot of very nice models on it.

Some of that multiplex stuff is high performance.

If you want a new multiplex you can go to mrmpx website. The pnp funjet ultra 2 is surprisingly cheap. Its a crazy high speed beast. Its not for beginners.
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>>2946352
not double. More like triple or quadruple even if you also add all the little one time fees.
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>>2946351
Check you CG, these sorts of models are very CG sensitive. Expo is your friend too. That is all that I can tell you for now without knowing the details.
>>2946352
Well, you sound German. How close are you to another country? Austria seems a bit more chill.
>>2946353
It was cheaper importing from RobotBirds before deminimis ended, but now Mr. MPX and sometimes Aloft is a great place. I know a Smiley for sale in Hungary, but I am waiting a bit before ordering it.

I have been flying fixed wing for 10 years and think that I am ready for a racer like a Funjet, Radjet, Stryker or Rare bear. Now that you mention it, I might also add the Twin Jet.

What are your thoughts on other German brands (Simprop, Graupner, Robbe, Aero-Naut, Causemann, Ikarus, etc.)?
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>>2946356
>Thoughts on other German brands

Youknow, I dont really have a ton of experience with those but id assume the quality is top notch as anything else made in Germany. I've only ever played with wingo on a simulator. Its no doubt a really good beginner plane.. for the cost its probably easier to just a chinese product.

The only German kit I have is an old multiplex blizzard thats still unassembled in my closet. Ill get to it oneday..

As far as ikarus goes again. Only ever played with the shock flyers in simulator. their design is a bit outdated from what ive read compared to newer EPP models such as twisted hobbies (crack yak mini) for example. It would still be great fun to buy one of those NOS ikarus shock flyers to build a retro kit.
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>>2946356
>Well, you sound German. How close are you to another country? Austria seems a bit more chill.
Yes i am but im not driving 100km to maybe enjoy some laxer rules. This shit came from the EU for the most part and people in clubs or associations don't really have it bad but its just so expensive for what it is. And your model NEEDS to be registered EU wide if you even dare to put a simple non-recording camera on it regardless of weight. You can, how i understand it as long as it doesn't have too much propellant, make your plane fucking rocket propelled with no issues but a camera on a device that is not flying in populated places is somehow noteworthy to be monitored..
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>>2946364
>This shit came from the EU
and what i mean by this is that unless there is some lobby in every country making the goverment reconsider, this tyranny is EU wide so you are being cucked on a more often than not basis.
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>>2946360
Yeah, but I am guessing that a used Wingo would be $60 tops, the new ones are very expensive. I will need to see, though. Thanks for your input.
>>2946364
Feels bad man. I don't know how to best help you. Are you sure that there are no loopholes or that they won't excuse ignorance as a one time thing?
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>>2946368
>Are you sure that there are no loopholes or that they won't excuse ignorance as a one time thing?
I think if you have drone insurance you can be a guest pilot at a association for some time but that would still be more expensive than the thing i wanted to make. But some places even offer free trials it seems to I'll look a little more into it. Still crazy how you need to pay anyone or register anywhere to fly a little plane.
And i wouldn't count on the police showing mercy also with how hard they are pushing this. And since this is a EU wide policy the goverment really really wants to enforce it or face penalties.
So i guess im not doing anything in the end. Or at least as long as these rules stay this way.
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>>2946368
If you can get a wingo for $60 its a nice nostalgic plane.
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>>2946375
anon, just find a field or a park to fly in while there's no one around.
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>>2946383
There is always someone somewhere. People really like their strolls around here.
And is a innocent hobby you need to hide from others or potentially face punishment really something you want to do?
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>>2946381
Yeah, I find unopened older kits in the $120-140 range and a couple of used examples in the $50-75 range with one at $100 (which still isn't that bad, in my opinion). Probably going to troll through the old Hobby People and Tower catalogues, plus archived versions of nitroplanes.com again, as I am sure that there are some Phase 3 or other models that I missed that would be nice to have.
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>>2946395
Those old foamies are even cheaper now (those that survived, that is), so I try to look for ones locally I almost bought a never flown Parkzone Artizan for $100, but that would have meant that I created an account on the Book of Faces. I am in a few RC circles and I saw someone who bought an older model (I think that it was a Guan Li) and proceeded to trash it. It makes me sad, in a sense, as I would have tried fixing it up and giving it a good home, as cheap as those Guan Lis were, they were good enough.

You are hard pressed to find foamies for $150 or less that aren't micros these days and I wouldn't say that inflation is the biggest factor (laziness and demand for gimmicks probably are). Hobbyking Glue-N-Gos were less than $20 a few years ago when they were discontinued. Call it bitching, but not every model needs retractable landing gear or flaps or lights. They are neat to have, but at the end of the day it is just added expense for what could be an easy DIY project (Parkzone made a lot of their models with modding in mind, I am planning on modding my Sport Cub to have flaps like my Stinson Reliant does).

Tower isn't what it used to be either. They were better under Hobbico, imo, especially with the print catalogues. I miss receiving those.

You only covered the tip of the iceberg as far as stores that are gone:
>Hobby People
>Hobby Lobby
>Xenon Project
>Park RC Models
>Hobbytron
>AMain (still going but it is the same as HobbyTown now)
>RCOverstock
>RCHobbyExplosion
>Weekender Warehouse (Hitec distributor)
>Grayson Hobby
>Bitgo Hobby
>The World Models
Plus a few cottage businesses like WildRC, SawnCraft and Dynamic Foamy are gone.

If you want, share some RC kino from then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8ozLD7LESU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUDuPWRiRug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weaJQWg2vk4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn7eBhwLaoQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgp3j-odseo
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>>2946406 #
Nice old videos. I found some vintage video ads. Feels the nostalgia

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xez50p

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TL4qet0yKz8 [Open]

This ones really annoying as I couldnt find the exact traxxas advert I was looking for. But that's pretty close to it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pnf_rQi4m20&pp=ygUPRWxlY3RyaXkgZ2VlYmVl [Open]

Theres your electrifly geebee

https://youtu.be/byN_-WfYE-A?si=y-9dKLbVOqSFnYLJ [Open]

https://youtu.be/Y80-u03WICA?si=V-2p66wtnbF1k2o1 [Open]

https://youtu.be/uN5BD4e55hE?si=0JOKXF2iY18imRT0
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Imma leave this here >>>/wsr/1541797
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>last time I flew was in May, picrel
Should I try going out this weekend?
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>>2946525
>should I try going out this weekend.

Depends on the wind frendo.
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>>2946542
Can only see up to Friday, but it is good across all mornings up until then.
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>>2946472
I will post some old Multiplex videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jb3Jk5X5Pv0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xAdCcz1JHQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVMh8uJfZoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqVHlP81bUw
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>>2946554
Goodluck. I often like to fly just before dusk.
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>>2946571
Thank you. It is windiest at dusk, so I fly at the crack of dawn. I still have not decided on what to take, though. My Cessna 310 needs some work done, as does one of my T-28s, so probably one biplane (Tiger Moth, Stearman or Waco), a high wing (either Cub or Stinson) and my Piper Archer.
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>>2946577
Multiplex makes good stuff. I never owned one, but I know tons of guys who do or did, plus I flew a guy's Parkmaster once. Hobbyking electronics should be fine, I am going to use Banggood servos in my GWS P-40. Do you have any GWS models?

Flying is good all year here, but only in the early mornings.
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>>2946586
Onetime I had a GWS slowstick but I was very much a newb when I bought that kit. I never had a successful flight with it. I just didnt set it up right. now those NOS are somewhat collectors items. Id sure like to have a second go with it.
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>>2946997
Quite unfortunate, really, they are supposed to be really good flyers.
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>weather was supposed to be nice this morning
>charge up batteries the night before
>wake up at 5:00
>come 6:00 it rains
So no flying this weekend and I found out that one of my favorite hobby shops closed for the last time last week. Feels bad man.

Anyway, Dynam announced a new model (an E-2). Pic related.
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>>2947031 #
Its very unfortunate as the few resellers want around $150 for these NOS kits nowadays

Those kits were $30 back then. Its really too bad. I very novice at the time and didnt have the basic fundamentals of rc building/flying down yet. I hadnt the patients to set it up properly and try flying in appropriate conditions. I did had a rather nice castle creations brushed esc for it. I probably paid more for that esc alone than the whole airframe. The stock motor was a clunky brushed unit (500 size i believe) designed to run on a NiMH pack.. maybe oneday I'll splurge to try that kit again.. but $150 for that? Ooof.
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>>2947589
Patience*
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>>2947589
Aloft was selling them for $30 until recently (I am a good buddy with one of the guys who loves RC stuff from this time too). Pick up a Carbon Falcon, it is a good model that they brought back (though I do not have one, they seem to be great flyers by all accounts).

Graves might also have them in stock. I do not want to dox myself, but I am close enough to Graves for it to be a day trip. If you want/are free we could try meeting up there.

I started a bit later than you, likely (I did have some toy grade stuff when GWS was at theit height in the 2000s, but it took me six years before I got proper RC equipment. It was still a time of cheap foamies, as I am sure you know, but that was the beginning of the end and most of those companies shut their doors in the 2010s as the recession economy eventually drained those companies of customers.
I promise you that when I go to a swap meet next month, that, if I see a Slow Stick (which is not entirely unlikely) or even a Watt-Age Blue Max, then I will get it.

I have thought of creating a separate list for helicopters too, but I have not touched any sort of helicopter since 2013 (and only toy grade for that matter).

P.S: I have been eyeing this one for years: https://www.radicalrc.com/item/Radical-RC-Wicked-Wing-101320
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>>2947624 #
>meet ya there

Ya man I live in NY. Im probably too far to meet any random 4channers at graves rc in Florida. Haha.

Neat thought. We should hang on the flight simulator. Im matacks845 on steam. I dont worry too much about getting doxxed from that. Its sorta hard to identity me just from my steam username.

>I'll get the slowstick.

Get the slowstick for yourself! I like doing those old builds too. Theres plenty of nice stuff to find. I have a great planes Fling arf thats NOS never built.. I gotta get to it later.

>Radicalrc

Yea nice old-school rc website. I tried to order one of his Russian birch transmitter boxed once. Sadly he was out of stock and had to refund me. Ill just have to enjoy other peoples picutres of those beatiful transmitter cases.

If he has that model you want in stock get it!
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>>2937029
Drones are unamerican
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>>2947641
>NY
What part? I will be in NJ (Newark metro, unfortunately) around New Years, but I will not have a car then.
>matacks845 on steam
I don't have steam, any other way to contact? My E-Mail is "themachinebuilderworks@gmail.com". It is a burner account, so I am not really worried about doxxing.

Chances are that Graves has some Radical stock too, they used to have their products as well as Millennium's at one point (Millennium made the balsa slow stick kits), but I do not know if that is still the case.
>>2947644
>drones
Perhaps, but we are mostly just RC guys there are not nearly as many drone guys as there was.
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>>2947662 #
Im good man. Im old. I dont exaclty try to make friends with randos on the it internet. Really at my age im perfectly content not having any friends because most people suck.. im really happy this way. I worked very hard over the years to not have any friends.

now, there are business relationships that people make. You can makes friends with a guy but also are trying to make money together, now that could be worth while. Otherwise I have no time for being friends with other dudes. Im busy enough between my family life and professional things..

If anytging id try to make some RC friends who are local so I can get access to flying sites.. its been a limiting factor for me. Im getting bored of flying around micros in my backyard. Id really like to find some big flyng feilds and or clubs.

But sure man, I got your email.. id tool around in a sim with ya..
But shit. I have hardly any time to.play with my damn PC.
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>>2947705
I understand. I still have some years ahead of me and I am still quite green in the world, but I know what you mean about people and friends. Most of the people that I know who fly at the park are quite old, in fact, we lost another guy the other day, who was our only link between the club and us as he flew both in the park and at a club. He was 94, but the cause of death was cancer, rather than natural causes. If it wasn't for that, he would likely have reached 100. A lot of the guys are older (if it was not for me, the youngest there would have been guys drafted to fight in Vietnam).

Truth be told the main reason why I am going North is to take care of my grandmother as her health is failing. My hope was to take a trip to a hobby shop at one point and just take a few hours off, when she is in the lobby playing games with the people in her senior complex, but that store shut its doors for good last week.

Chances are that for most of us, we will be alone just because the hobby is getting older. I used to fly alone too from 2014-2019 and again for a period in 2023 (I left this area because the area a block away wound up on the news because of a series of killings, though the suspect was caught and imprisoned, I have not returned).

I know what you mean though, growing up I had no friends and to this day, I still have none.

If I were you, I would just fly in a local park, nobody has ever bothered me at a park.
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>>2947709
You know what it is. I have a kid and wife. They consume so much of my time then work and immediate (sometimes extened) family uses the rest.

Im not agaisnt having friends per se but i just dont have the time . I had many friends when i was younger. I still maintain contacts with many of these people though we never hang out.
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>>2947712
>kid and wife
I had a feeling that is what you meant by family. I still have to take care of my aging parents and no real prospect of a gf right now (I still have time, besides, I think that this one girl likes me at this restaurant that I frequent, but I still have yet to really approach her). Mind you, that is a bit of a tangent, plus I have not stopped by in a few weeks because of my schedule, but I should have a chance tomorrow.

Chances are that I will be away for a few days, but I will probably come back and post some repairs that I have done on my Cessna 310 after I bumped into it and knocked off the wingtip fuel tank.
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>>2947719 #
Youknow what's a great way to get a Gf? Its having money and or a house. Then you'll be beating them off with a stick. Those whamen really like a guy with a house. An apartment is ok but a house it better.

All you gotta say is "I gotta a house (or apt)". "Wanna come over to watch a movie?"

Thats all the rizz moves you need. Presto. Pantsu. Sexu.

Oh sometimes you gotta go out to dinner with them once first before that move. Sometimes that one works straight from bar .

God I wish I was single again. That would be fun. Wife isn't too keen on me having a side girl. Lame...
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>>2947727
I missed this, a house definitely would help. That said, in my absence, I met a girl and we are talking. A bit too far away to meet up, though (I met her through a classmate).

These are some new additions to the list that I made.
And a couple of videos for you:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_nYmzdLNLs
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sfVoxYEALU
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>>2948357
I forgot to mention that the Cessna 310 is fixed. Hopefully the weather will be good enough to fly it over the weekend.
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Can someone help me get gud with piloting the Syma X5C? Any tips or tricks ?
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>>2948683
Fly stabilized and then once you are comfortable, teach yourself to hover first. Put a little mark on the front to help with orientation, then once you have hovering down start doing forward flight and turns, once you have that mastered, it is time to start learning aerobatics.

This is easier said than done, by the way, but orientation is key, get that down and things should be relatively natural.
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forgot to turn LVC back on and damaged one of my shitty 2s packs.

guess I'm making something to put it down tomorrow.
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Hello, last Sunday I traded my old Ender 3 for a Hubsan H501S and I don't know shit about drones.

Went thru this thread and I understand that APPARENTLY I have a basic chink shit that can help me learn to do cool stuff but I don't know where to start ( I have the H906A, the guy who gave me the drone gave me a inflated li-on battery that went straight in the trash, I don't know if I can put glasses or use my Quest 3.)

Can someone please help a total noob? I just want to have some fun.
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>>2949651
FPV != VR
Two different things entirely. You need a 2S 2700 mAH LiPO battery. Try Hobbyking or ValueHobby. The transmitter needs a 2S 1400 mAH Li-PO battery.

Pretty much everything that I said for Syma-anon >>2948789 applies to you. Make sure your Return to Home is calibrated too.
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>>2949662
Thank you for your response and your advice.

I've printed down 4 guards for the propellers and it's itching me to try it out but since I live in a commie country, I'll stick my first flights inside wile I search for a place where no lawmen will come after me.

And for the FPV, do you honestly think it's worth the trouble?
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>>2949809
>And for the FPV, do you honestly think it's worth the trouble?
Definitely. Look up some FPV videos.
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>>2937029
Are there clubs for people to get into droning with others? I want to learn how to use it for vacation videos.
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>>2949651
That’s not how you safely dispose of puffy lithium batteries

You’re supposed to charge them to full, then you pierce them and throw them into your ex girlfriend’s car
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>>2949921
You don’t want an fpv drone you want like a DJI mavic or some shit
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I've wanted a rc buggy ever since i was a kid, i bought and made a tamiya TT-02 a few years ago but i recently went to a rc hobby shop and got interested again, what's a good buggy kit? I want the enjoyment of making it myself, so far its looking like a tamiya BBX but id like to hear someone's opinion here
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What’s the best AIO board for 1s or 2s drones?
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>>2941842
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>>2941842
Just buy any 5” drone, don’t use a simulator to learn to fly and every drone is a kamikaze drone
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>>2949943
what do you want in the end, a nostalgia build, a race car, a basher?
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>>2950003
forgot to mention, its purely a fun toy to fuck around with once in awhile so a basher basically, but il most likely rarely use it and it will be a shelf queen. Im also not some old boomer that has nostalgia for old ass tamiya buggies
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>>2950023
AE has buggy kits, they're more race focused and not as durable. their 1/8 scale looks tough but expensive.
Tekno's stuff is known to be tanks with a couple minor upgrade parts, metal diff cross pins, metal spur. kinda expensive

I do like the Tamiya Avante special black, but I don't know anything about it. I just like how it looks.

there's probably a bunch of chinkshit kits, I'd worry about getting parts
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>>2950050
think il just get the bbx and trade in my tt02 for in store credit if i can, i imagine i wont get much back for it but i never use it anyway and dont want to have two big rc cars taking up space in my house
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>>2938923
Literally any build kit from alibaba is military grade now (minus the ELRS transmitter). get yourself a 7 or 8 incher, and a tiny whoop so you can practice flying without leaving home
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What do you need to get this job as a Drone Attendant ?
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>>2950101
The tt02 nweds hardly any space if younputbdrift wheels on it
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>>2949943
Youbl will probably get the most enjoyment out of building the tamiya buggy.
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>>2950101
>two big rc cars taking up space
meanwhile I wanna get another 1/5 scale truck. pls 5t come back in stock
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>>2949943
>>2950890
I was going to say Tamiya, but I would not snub Kyosho either. Depends on whether you are buying for looks or performance. I have always found the Kyoshos are better performing than Tamiyas, but Tamiyas look better.
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>>2950893
scratch that, ordered a 3s infraction.
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>>2950949
got it today, it drives fantastic.
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>>2951422
and the servo already broke.
my luck with spektrum shit has been awful.
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>>2951422
What is this? And can I pilot it with a boxer max?
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>>2951724
1. Arrma Infraction.
2. Seems like there was a discussion of this on the Book of Faces concerning TX16S and Boxer setup.

Anyway, I went to the swap meet and bought nothing. I was tempted in buying a Multiplex Tucan, but I thought it was overpriced...
>evidence that it was crashed
>needed a new retract
>needed a new canopy latch
Asking price was $100, which is not bad, but still too much

Oh well, I might wind up ordering an ornithopter instead (BionicBird Metafly).
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>>2951724
yeah you could put a PWM ELRS receiver into it if you don't have a 4IN1, tho I don't know if there's support for spektrum's DSMR and AVC (gyro)
honestly the included radio is fine, my only annoyance with it is there's no steering rate dial like on the SLT2/SLT3.
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>>2951641
found the problem, an IC let the smoke out.
they're replacing it, but I'm seriously considering an upgrade already..
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>>2946351
I have never once tried to fly with reversed controls because I always check them as soon as I plug the battery in, it's crazy how many people don't even bother to look at their planes before flying them. Just the other week at the field I watched some boomer with $600+ EDF almost destroy it, he realized at the last second on takeoff roll that instead of rotating it was staying on the ground because his elevator stick was reversed. His ailerons were reversed as well.
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People spray WD-40 on the plastic parts on RC cars and it seems to make the plastic more pliable, bends a little easier instead of breaking. Has anyone ever tried it on a drone?
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>>2954051
Most of the hobbists aren't using much plastic. It's mostly carbon fiber, a bit of soft printed plastic for mounting, strong mounting tape, zip ties, and a little metal. 95a TPU is near indestructible in a crash.
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>>2937029
Hey ya guys. Can you guys recommend some good Drone Simulator games/apps? I've been watching some Youtube vids but I want to test one out in a simulator before going on in on the real thing. Tried FPV Skydive but it feels too janky
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>>2954621
Last I checked, Liftoff was the standard to use, but idk if it's been surpassed. The key thing though is to use a controller that behaves like what you would really fly with. A regular USB gamepad with sticks won't be the same, since FPV controllers are designed diffently, especially the throttle stick (which doesn't spring back). Ideally, you would have a real controller for a real quad, and find a way to use that with your PC. I bought an adapter for mine, and ti worked, but since my cheap controller didn't have a power cord option I chewed through batteries. Maybe there are better controllers now, possibly some with USB themselves you can plug in, idk, I haven't looked into it in years.
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>>2954621
liftoff or velocidrone
radiomaster pocket is great if you're not sure you'll get into it, good radio and it's only ~$60 last time I checked
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>>2954621
Get the tx15 max, max versions have metal buttons feels less like a toy you got for your 10 year old nephew for Christmas


I’m a fan of uncrashed, but others really like DCL, it’s more Fortnite -ified versikn of a simulator and if you rank high enough you get to be a pro drone racing pilot ???
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>>2954627
If you use a Xbox controller you have change the way the simulator acts and if you do that then it doesn’t feel like a real drone


Basically Xbox sticks are potentiometers that rest at the middle of the travel in all directions

Drone zero is bottom dead center and yaw is left and right

So to throttle up and turn right you need to move stick to middle bottom travel the. Turn right with the stick perfectly

With an Xbox controller the second you hear beep booop booop your drone will immediately throttle to 50% max when armed and you will have a hard time turning because any input you put into attempting to yaw will immediately reset

So you’re fighting the rest at 50% throttle, snap-back yaw AND trying to dictate pitch

All while trying to avoid obstacles and learn flying as a newb that’s why people don’t recommend game pads

It’s like trying to fly a plane with car controls
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>>2954708
Also, potentiometers wear out incredibly fast with drone flights

You don’t need to do too many stick movements to play an hour of battle field 6

And if you’re a heavy gamer I’m sure you know stick drift occurs on worn out controllers and usually means you need to solder in a new set of switches or trade it into game stop and buy a new controller

With drones, 30 seconds of hovering in one spot in acro mode means that you probably made a good 60-65 adjustments in yaw, pitch and constant throttle adjustment to maintain altitude and position in one spot

And that’s just hovering

Imagine how many micro adjustments you’re making on a 10 min flight?
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>>2954710
Pots aren't too bad. I've been flying for a good 5 years now and my TX12 is doing just fine.
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Is FPV past its prime as a hobby? this place is slow as shit and the drone store near me has 5 year old inventory and they arent getting anything new, I imagine the many drone laws made over the couple years has made people stay away from drones
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>>2957062
A lot of it has to do with burnout. Plus we saw breakneck innovations, and now we've got basically nothing new happening unless we come up with it on our own. Then there's what you suggested, with governments being whiny assholes about flying toys. There has been a lot to suck the fun from it all. A true shame really. I sometimes get my screamer out and tear it up a bit, but mostly watch for calm days to cruise with my plane. Also got an FPV car on the backburner. Really should keep at it with that one.
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>>2938923
>ruZZians
nobdody talks like this except ukrobots
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>>2957062
Kinda feel like DJI ban killed the lust for innovation

American drone hobbyists are back to 2016 with analog , ev800Ds and a ton of laws have to testosterone yourself as a hobby pilot, get a 107, remote ID maintain condition of stickers on your drone

Honestly it’s a lot + more every year just to fly a remote helicopter
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>>2957085
>>2957165
thats pretty depressing sounding, im trying this hobby again after 5 years, now im questioning if i should even continue
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>>2957165
Or you can just play the fool.
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>>2957176
It’s not THAT bad. Once you’re a drone pilot you’re a drone pilot for life, if you lapse on your Continuing Education training every 24 months all you have to do is re-enroll in a CEI course and pass it to maintain active drone pilots license

Sticker is just a sticker

Remote ID once its setup it’s only like $50 for a device but it’s another thing to solder and maintain

All in all less than $500 and you can legally fly your old equipment again and like a year max if you do like 2 hours a week studying then just 1 weekend to go do the proctored exam

But that’s just the federal stuff, there might be municipal and county laws and or restrictions or flat out bans on flying a drone in your area

Only if you live in like nicer suburbs though

Also my costs might be a little higher because I paid for a course on the license
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>>2957181
im in canada and only have a old tinywhoop, I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about, and im pretty sure 80% of the time a fpv pilots flies a drone outside, they are doing it illegally without getting caught anyway
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>>2957181
>$50 each
Thanks to the FAA refusing to work with us, we can't just use the GPS data from the modules we already own, and transmit off a $10-15 modded ELRS module. Also, some of my stuff doesn't have any room to spare. RID has never prevented a crime, and they're already talking about mandating networked modules with a remote disarm. Had they shown interest in cooperating with us, we all could've won. Hell, I'd probably volunteer my time and equipment for search and rescue if they didn't go out of their way to make all this suck.
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>>2957181
what the fuck are you talking about? This isn't even required for Part 107 pilots.

>>2957198
FAA expects local cops to enforce RID, it's useless. Don't comply.
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>>2957181
don't forget a ham license for the <1W analog VTX on your whoop

it's all a fucking joke.
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>>2957234
I haven't. All I've done is fly in less known places. The FAA can suck a dog dick.
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Is it pointless to get an FAA License ?
Also why are Drones grounded for pesticides spraying on farms ?
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>>2957294
If you use them for work, probably best to jump through the hoops. They'll probably look at your tax info and check you out. For hobby stuff, I flip off the FAA daily. They can piss up a rope if they think I'm going to all that trouble just for them. I fly to escape, and not think about their bureaucracy.
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>>2957306
Takes one middle aged upper class woman to be like “ the drones are spying on me”

“I saw a drone flying near the school, what if it’s a Russian drone! From the war!!!”

And you’re doing time for terrorism or facing a 6 fig fee
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>>2957496
If they want me for those things, they'd just make up whatever shit that they wanted anyway. Oswald didn't kill JFK.
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>>2957612
I fully support Israel and think we should send more money to protect our greatest ally
(Please don’t arrest me for flying my drone)
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I fantasize about owning a large factory producing drones and then using them as bombs against politicians and the army as I secede from the rest of the country. My new country will have the swastika as the flag because Hitler was based and redpilled, and it will be whites only, and the age of consent will be lowered. (Brazil)
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>>2959686
And ou are what, fourteen? Go back to b with the other small children.
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>>2959686
lol

You are glowing like a supernova
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>>2959686
Really? That's all you could think to do with one of humanity's greatest technologies? Could do something cool, but instead you have delusional fantasies.
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>>2959715
What's a cooler use than strapping an RPG warhead onto a drone and blowing up a fucking tank filled with idiots that think the age of consent shouldn't be lower than 14, retard?
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>>2959723
Fucking caveman brain here.
Get cool tech? Blow it up!
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Any of you goys used a DIY L1, L2, L5 GPS kit for a drone off of aliexpress? None of the store pages really have any documentation or explanation on how to configure it. What about RTK, do drone people use that? chatGPT claims that bluetooth gps modules off ali can be put in serial send and a radio module into serial receive and it 'just works'TM with no explanation of how to actually achieve that on a device with a single usb-A cord and no software. So I just buy an antenna, tripod, gps and then radio module and have my own RTK base station?

I'm not doing anything with drones (im just soil sampling on foot/vehicle). The best thing for me would be the yuro HAS but I'm an ausfag and it's not available here apparently.
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I need a medium RPM (probably not worm drive) small motor with an extended gear toothed drive that has like an 4mm diameter shaft that is 8+ mm long. How tf do I shop for such a thing?
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>>2959686
>age of consent gets lowered
>children still reject (You)
NGMI
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I bought this for ten bucks and I am using it on my SteamDeck, I am terrible but able to do basic flying so far in under 30 minutes, any thoughts on this? Looking to learn before buying.
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>>2960427
Sims are good for building up muscle memory, but their physics are typically not quite right. The big sign that you're getting good is when you forget about your thumbs/fingers while flying.
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>>2960445
Sims are also pretty good for learning how PIDs work and affect flight since you can change the values without having to land, plug in, etc... (assuming that sim has PID settings, idk, I know Liftoff does).
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>>2960449
I find that it's best to learn what those values do in a low speed operation first, and it's easier to understand what effects they'll have at high speed. Interestingly enough, I once tuned D so perfectly that when the weather changed later, it was overtuned. The increased air pressure was just enough to cause rapid vibration.
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>>2960450
I mean if you're brand new to flying and PID tuning, it's a lot faster to learn generally what P, I, and D do with a sim. I wouldn't copy the values directly from the sim to a real quad though, but you can at least learn what kind of affect your changes will have.
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>>2960451
To each their own, I guess. I have to know what each term is actually doing to know how to tune it. Watched tuning guides for years with no actual progress because everything was explained by what it would do rather than how.
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>>2937029
Anyone have good resources about building RC boats, or maybe even autonomous ones? I saw this video today and got inspired.
https://youtu.be/PlUmG3CFadw

I asked chatbots and they gave me more or less the same ideas so I came up with this shopping list:

MP1584
MG996R
TP4056
ESP32
ESP32-CAM
TB6612
GPS NEO-8M or BN-220 GPS
GY-21
Propulsion kit (motor, propeller, shaft)

Thought it would be cheap, but that would cost me about 90 euros, because I would also buy spares, but that's not the end. I also need some receive and transmitter and Flysky i6 is often recommended. And then there's also a need for material for a hull, but that could be a similar plastic container with pcv pipes.

However, I'm thinking that it may be a bit too much for the beginning, as I have virtually zero experiences, besides fucking around with Arduino and LEDs many years ago. Perhaps I could start with the most simple RC boat, no camera or gps, just enough to make it float and move. Then, if it works, I could upgrade it in the future.

One thing that I quickly noticed is that I'd spend probably way more if I decided to actually build a boat instead of buying a finished one from the story, and they also come with a simple transmitter.

What do you think?
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>>2960564
*GY-271
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>>2937029
Will the price of drones crash now that trump is starting to end the war in Ukraine? Like if Ukraine isn't buying thousand of drones any more will the price of drones crash (no pun intended?) as all the remaining supply hits the market? I've always wanted to try some drones out but the cost is still too high for me generally
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>>2960564
You take a bucket, add shit, it's a boat. You could mess with 3d printed hulls, styrofoam, or find plastic toys to retrofit. You could make a hull from cardboard or wood if you seal it properly. I guess it depends on what your goals are. I'd start with the simplest controls, 1 engine 1 rudder and build something small to see if you like it before trying to make the most advanced bucket boat.
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>>2960624
>You take a bucket, add shit, it's a boa
But it's not that easy.
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>>2960576
Nah, Ukraine manufactured most of their drones in house if anything 3d printers will crash
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>>2937029
in 2021 I flew one of those things indoors and crashed it in the dog bowl first try.
It still kind of worked afterwards but would randomly flip itself over and insta crash
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>>2960449
The PID for uncrashed setting are in broad terms like "soft", "normal", "perfection", etc. I don't know more than than and didn't feel a difference changing it honestly.
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>>2961271
A bad tune will often have a lot of slop, or make it shake itself to death by correcting all the overshoot it makes on each correction. When you know what a bad tune feels like and how each term works, it becomes obvious.
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BBX coming along, this is like the perfect car shape to install a FPV set up
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>UART1
RX pulled up to 4.5 volts, not a real UART
>UART3
works
>UART6
seemingly broken, RX shorted to TX
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>>2964933
unable to arm award
glitchy connection award
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>>2964934
didn't clean his board after soldering award
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>>2964933
Show board.
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Looks like a cool hobby. Any drones I can 3D print?
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>>2965519
That question gets asked by every multirotor noob. I did it too. The short answer is that it's generally not worth it. They thrive on a highly rigid platform, and plastic usually can't offer enough stiffness or durability. A cheap carbon fiber frame can eat dozens of crashes and fly far better. Go visit CNC Madness for tons of neat frames for less money than most other sources. Out of thousands of flights and probably around a couple hundred crashes, I've busted one carbon fiber arm.
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>>2965622
Other anon here, what if I want to make a frame out of carbon tubes?
What's the best way to attach them in the center?
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>>2965622
What if I don't care about durability?
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>>2965624
I've not done a lot with such construction, but stuff like metal hose clamps would probably work alright. That is of course assuming you're looking to build big. The weight matters more as you get smaller. Look into various cinelifter designs if you need ideas.
>>2965685
Rigidity is still important. The only place I see it matter less is on the super small scale. (tinywhoops are often super floppy) A multirotor doesn't naturally want to fly like a plane, and so it must be forced to with a massive number of micro-adjustments. If those adjustments are sloppy because the frame bends, it can lead to either ugly flight performance, or shaking so bad that it flies away from tons of overcorrections. Remember that we're dealing a stupid, blind budget computer, and it just does math that's been cleverly written to create stability. It doesn't know that it's on a floppy frame or flying itself to the moon. 3D printing will generally not give you good results, and the $10-30 you could spend for a carbon frame will save immense headache. Design your own frame if you gotta DIY that bad. Just don't cut the carbon yourself unless you want to hate yourself later.
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>>2965519
Yes but you’re saving like $2 max by 3d printing a frame
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>>2965724
Rigidity doesn’t matter all too much to a newer pilot….

An experienced pilot would hate how “lofty” and unstable it is

But chances are a newer pilot won’t be able to stay in the air long enough for it to be a real problem

The drones in Ukraine are 3d printed
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>>2965757
>>2965757
You clearly don't understand what I'm getting at. Also fuck Ukraine for what they're doing to all my hobbies.
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What do the commercial quads use to hover perfectly in place?
Do they all use optical flow?
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>>2965835
Likely. The cheap ones cost basically nothing as it's effectively a glorified mouse sensor, and the fancy ones can do it better than a GPS.
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>>2965835
DJI use the GPS module

The cheaper ones use horizon mode basically,

The problem with horizontal mode is the toilet bowl effect if you try to hover in place too long

If you want an fpv drone to hover in place build an Ardupilot setup for your drone
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>>2937029
I live in a high crime area. There is frequent police activity in the area. For purely voyeuristic curiosity, I have been thinking of getting a drone that I can launch from my back porch to see what the fuck is going on.

It would have to be a drone that I can grab and launch fast, less than 30 seconds optimally. Furthermore it would need to stream the video live to a controller. 1-200 feet up , 5 min fly time, 720p resolution would be fine.

Is there a drone that I can pick up off the shelf that will do this or are we talking a home brew setup?
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>>2965896
dji mini 4k is more than enough.
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>>2965930
My friend had a DJI and it took longer than 30 seconds to get flying. Are you sure that Mini 4k will start and fly in less than 30 seconds? Also, arent all DJI like out of stock?
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>>2961902
Unless you're using it on a wide flat track with an ultra wide angle camera you're going to find out quickly why FPV on cars sucks.
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>>2965896
Do keep in mind that some nations prohibit the use of UAVs within a certain radius of an emergency situation. Be careful how hard you bend or break the rules near the piggies.
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>>2965939
Those fancy auto gimbals actually eat the shakes and bumps pretty effectively.
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>>2965955
Does a gimble also help with not being able to see shit because you're 1 inch off the ground?
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>>2965960
>1 inch
Use a bigger RC car.
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Trying to finally get into the hobby.

Just purchased the following
>hdzero 2
>rm pocket
>air75
>batteries and extra parts

Is this a good solid first jump into the hobby? Missing anything relevant?
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>>2965936
The only thing that wastes more than a few seconds is waiting for the GPS receiver to get enough satellites, there are ways to keep them powered up indipendently on DIY drones for faster startups

>>2965519
I built a 3D printed one to practice flying my first quad, it wasn't too bad, lack of rigidity was only noticeable as wobbling on fast direction changes, major issue on many designs is having to take half of it apart to replace propeller guards and other accessories because they will break even on a light crash
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>>2967100
Good idea to get a cheap soldering iron kit with temp sensing. T101 and Pinecil are good options. A spare frame or two is also good to have.
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>>2967100
whoopstor 3 for charging the lipos. can storage charge too which is nice.
if you have/get a decent USBC PD battery bank that can do 20v you can fly for hours cycling 6 lipos at 1.3A with it.
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>>2967923
>1.3A
I too like halfling my batteries lifespan
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>>2967933
Some people aren't the brightest and just set the charger to the max.
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>>2967933
I'd rather get stick time over worrying about a $5-8 cell. I run 550mah cells, ~2.3c keeps me in the air. adjust accordingly, doing 5c on 250mah cells wouldn't be good long term ofc but I wasn't clear

>>2968173
I always do 1C if I have the time.
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>>2957086
Nobody will believe you
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>>2967933
Who cares, I run my whoops until they run dead too….

Oh no the lifespan of my $3 batteries that I lose more often than kill are going to be halved

Chances are betafpv will release a better or cooler must have battery before these die even at half life


With that said I just picked up DJI goggles 3 and a couple 04 pro air units
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>>2937029
I bought a BetaFPV Cetus but I am starting to think I might have wasted my money... I don't know if it's because I'm shit at it, but whenever I take off, the drone immediately starts to drift way off to one side.

It also made me want a bigger drone I can fly out of my window and back in my house, without an autonomy of 3 minutes. (Arc Raiders also contributed to this).

What should I get? I don't exactly want a "dirt cheap" drone, I can spend a few hundred bucks. Hell the Cetus cost me 150 or something.
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>>2939188
>Literally the only difference is they strap on a fiber optic reel while we just use ELRS.
Are you saying that Ukraine military drones have a long ass cable that connects them to the operator?
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>>2969957
Plug it to pc and calibrate accelerometer in betaflight
If all you're adding is throttle it shouldn't drift

For flying out the windows and around the house while being new you probably want 2.5 or 3 inch whoop like pavo or darkstar
You could do it with a 5 inch but if you miss the window you will fly through the glass, god forbid you catch the curtains with the prop and send it towards your face

Cetus is cool inside but outside it will get btfo by wind
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>>2969961
That's literally what they do
https://youtube.com/shorts/meRlFPGP_1s
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How did I do?

DJI Neo , DJI Goggles N3, the joy stick for $449… the I also bought the DJI Goggles 3 for $550

Getting a Pavo20 Pro 2 from beta flight the 04 air unit pro

—-

Current setup is just a boxer Max, eachchine ev800d, and a air75 whoop

Trying to get the best of everything + backups
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>>2969976
This was my take as well. Factory calibration usually isn't perfect, so getting it nice and flat is a good thing to do if auto level modes are ever getting used.
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>>2969976
Huh good point. I am going to do optical flow stabilization anyway on my quad but I could probably get decent hover stability just calibrating more carefully.
How much would you expect a well calibrated hover in angle mode to drift in say a minute?
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>>2970263
Quite a lot. Even indoors, there are natural air currents, plus the quad itself will stir up the air. Outdoors there's always some breeze. Being perfectly flat doesn't mean squat without prefect air. I wouldn't trust a quad in angle mode for more than two seconds.
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>>2970263
I've built 3 quads before and they all had some drift in angle mode despite multiple calibrations and making sure everything was level, meanwhile the one I slapped together last week with default parameters barely moves
It probably depends on IMU noise

You should also try flying line of sight in acro trainer mode close to the ground so you can get familiar with correcting drift manually
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It's almost flying season again and I'm about ready for an upgrade to my Mobula 8. I actually love the little thing, but flight times are way too short and if there's any detectable wind it's like flying into a hurricane. No surprise for a whoop.

Trick is, I'm not really sure what I should be on the lookout for. My budget is around $300 and I want something BNF but can handle a kit, though I'm not ready to go out and start selecting all of my own parts yet. I don't think I need much, just a park cruiser that won't self-destruct the first time I crash it, will get me a few hundred yards of distance with a bit of clutter, and a good few minutes of flight time. I'll do some freestyle but don't need anything wildly acrobatic though I'd like a quadcopter capable of doing some flips and the like.

Initial research has me interested in a NewBeeDrone LionBee 3inch and this QAV kit Bardwell helped make: https://www.getfpv.com/beginner-diy-fpv-drone-kit-qav-s-2-sub-250-joshua-bardwell-se-3-analog.html. Can anyone tell me if those choices are good to go or help me decide more categorically what it is that I need?
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>>2970626
To be honest, the LionBee isn't a bad quad, but it is kinda gimmicky. If you get one, you need to consider certain things. Stuff like the fact that the frame and flight controller only work with each other, the flight controller is an all-in-one, and it won't have any kind of power if you want it. My recommendation is to look at a more modular 3 inch quad that runs 2-4S. You can drop a cell if you want a lazier flight, or strap on a full pack for something more exiting. Good 3 inch frames are damn near indestructible. I've beaten the shit out of my Micro Apex frame for 3 years. We're talking tree trunks, chain fences, braches, dirt, cement, and one full packing of snow.

tl;dr
Leave yourself some options. Cruisers aren't durable, and being locked in sucks.
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RC is over in the USA! The FCC just banned foreign made drones and other RC components. Transmitters, flight controllers, batteries, cameras, and even MOTORS not made in the USA can no longer be imported
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>>2970655
>Good 3 inch frames are damn near indestructible.
Solid post, especially that quote. I hadn't considered using a wide range of packs and 3" sounds like a reasonable frame size to target if I'm not lugging a camera around. I'll look into the specific model you named and hope for any other advice.

>>2970673
Fuck me, I was hoping this was a troll, but nope. https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-416839A1.pdf am I going to need to make a pile of flight controllers and motors next to my rather specifically cut stack of steel pipe offcuts? It's not as big a deal as your post makes it sound like since old models are grandfathered in, but the writing is on the wall.
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>>2970690
Do keep mind that I built it custom, and don't know if and PnP or RTF models exist with it. Didn't leave a speck of leftover room on board either, and even 3D printed a little pocket to hold the receiver on the bottom.

On a note about the FCC BS. I already managed to order a flight controller, 2 ESCs, 2 motors, 4 servos, and a GPS. Just the servos and GPS have not arrived yet, but they're but expected for another two weeks. Seems customs isn't checking very hard. Might order while you can, even if the rules are bullshit.
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>>2970706
>Do keep mind that I built it custom, and don't know if and PnP or RTF models exist with it.
Well, guess I won't bother with that, then.

>Seems customs isn't checking very hard. Might order while you can, even if the rules are bullshit.
They don't really need to be right now, there wouldn't be many contraband parts to stop because existing stuff is all fine. I'm going to have to make a shopping list of stuff to grab this year, but the situation isn't right to engage PANIC mode just yet. I think I'll get some FCs, GPS units and drone motors even if I don't know what I need right now.
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Found this video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDYJ8d-5PCU
Describing these fancy new semi-solid state batteries. Anyone tried these out?

Also I was wondering if any amateur radio people use their license to transmit control/video signals at higher powers for longer range?
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>>2970690
Anything that was previously fcc approved remains fcc approved so you can fly your DJI goggles 3 and 04 air unit pros and your neo 2 but you can’t fly anything DJI releases in 2026 or any foreign entity drone for that matter

Parts and pieces aren’t governed by the fcc, only radios, communications and VTX are

So motors, frames, escs, cameras, canopy’s all that is fine and fair game

Even batteries

Also just order a vtx, or FC with a bunch of clothes or something….little plastic case nobody is opening that shit and going yup that’s a drone flight controller
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>>2970711
If we're being honest, the market for prebuilts sucks right now. Minimal stock and minimal options. Might want to learn to build. It's not that hard, especially with experienced help, and you generally just need a cheap soldering kit, snips, and a hex key set. Then a computer to configure. I'm at 15 models built now, and it has both opened up what I can do, and what I understand. Now I can build quadcopters, airplanes, tanks, cars, security systems, remote switches, fan controllers, and more. It's valuable stuff to learn, and it's surprisingly simple after one go.
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>>2970733
I just ordered three receivers, more to come later.

>>2970736
I can build, that isn't a problem. My thing is that I don't want to have to select every single freakin' thing, make sure my parts work well together, and then manage half of the parts not being available (minimal stock). I'm a step short of going down that rabbit hole. I'm fine with the DIY kit I posted in >>2970626, for example, and that's just a bag of parts.
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>>2970738
Oh is it? I've only ever seen it depicted as a whole, so I had no idea.
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>>2970744
Yeah, it ships like this. Also, dumb question: the FC for this is rated for 3-6S but 4S is recommended. What happens if you go lower or higher than 4S? I'm guessing anemic/no flight on 3S and possible motor damage on 5-6?

Oh, and the Deepspace Seeker3 also popped up in my search. Can anyone recommend?
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>>2970750
Effectively, it's saying that the electronics can handle around 25-30V, but the motor kv will potentially respond a bit too strongly to that amount of power and either burn motors or explode props. That quad I posted has been driving 4 inch props (I got the longer arm kit) with a kv of 2850 on 6S. It screams to high heaven, and I'm shocked every time that it didn't blow up or burn. Probably going to snap up some 4S 1350mAh packs and regain a bit of sanity. The throttle is just way too damn touchy and branch strikes annihilate the props.
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>>2970750
Oh, and if you go below the recommended voltage, you'll end up with weaker performance. If you go too low, your electronics will shut down and it won't fly at all.
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>>2937029
Complete tech newb here.
How hard would it be to make an RC that could traverse my crawlspace and place rat poison?
Would be nice to get camera views of my vapor barrier and pipes without having to go back down there ever again.
My crawlspace is so cramped that laying on my side has my shoulders in contact with the house.
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>>2970819
cheap 1/10 scale crawler and a few fpv cameras wired to it or maybe a couple old phones pointing where you want with an IP camera server running could work too. lag would be bad but there's not a huge rush with your use case.
channel 3 wired to a servo with a gripper to drop one rat poison at a time.
easy/10. most annoying thing imo would be setting up ch3 servo end points on a stock rtr radio. zip ties could handle the rest.
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>>2970837
Interesting
Phone seems like an obvious solution.
Not sure what "channel 3" is but I can look up what I don't know.
Thanks for giving me ideas.
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>Well, the cost of that quadcopter wasn't so bad
>Realize I need to buy batteries
One of these days I'll find a hobby that's both inexpensive and doesn't inspire government agencies to kneecap it with laws and regulations. One fucking day. I swear if I took up knitting I'd find that yarn was actually really expensive and someone would go on a crusade to ban my favorite dye color.
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>>2971097
Seriously

Get into flying little toy helicopters

By sheer luck and random bullshit some random asswipes use these brand of toy helicopters to destroy Russian tanks

Every soccer mom trying to ban toys

Why the fuck couldn’t they just lob grenades tied to legos or some shit
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>>2971185
In the US the issue is probably more about the "they could be spying on me" (even though no one gives a fuck about what soccer moms are doing in their homes) worry, as well as the asshats buzzing military bases and flying around wildfires. I doubt most normalfags are especially aware of the toy armageddon happening in Ukraine, but I'll admit that the war footage got me into the hobby. Everything before the explosion looked like a blast, pun not intended.

>Why the fuck couldn’t they just lob grenades tied to legos or some shit
Neither side can afford Legos. There's another hobby that I hear isn't cheap anymore.
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>>2971185
I hear you loud and clear. I have no intention of bothering or hurting anyone, yet they've applied so many rules that I might as well be a fucking sex offender. Register, put on your toy aircraft ankle bracelet, have a monitor, don't go where we can't see you... Damn government needs to go piss up a rope. Just leave us the fuck alone already!
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Just got myself a 2nd hand mi drone 4k; gps signal poor precision, can't fly :/
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>>2971192
You can buy used Lego bricks super cheap. If you want new fancy pants sets or complete vintage sets, yeah, it is gonna cost you. Just a bin of bricks though? I see them at yard sales and thrift stores all the time.
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>>2957176
Drone laws don't apply to you if nobody can find where the pilot is.
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>>2971394
>Due to meddlesome Karens and politicians who can't be bothered to spend their time solving actual issues, The Onion mist now be applied to flying drones
Tragic, but at least I'll finally have a use for that urban ghillie suit I made.
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>>2937029
>want to get into drones
>my cuntry recently updates drone regulations
>check it out
>"if your drone weights more than 250 grams, you need insurance now!"
>"pay ~20 US Shekels annually or get slapped with 1k fine!"
>"actually, this insurance doesn't cover shit and you will only get paid in very, very specific situations!"
In our current situation they should literally do everything they can to get people more interested in drones, yet they would rather make up laws like this to try and squeeze even more money for welfare faggots.
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>>2971876
>welfare faggots
That's a funny way to say brown foreigners.
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>>2971929
actually, plenty of our own, white citizens live mostly off of welfare. I am a job haver though. Migrants tend to not use welfrare at all.
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Any thoughts on 18650 powered quads? I'm considering either picrel or the rekon35 v2. Still new to the hobby and I only have whoop batteries so I wanted to avoid buying larger lipos and a new charger.
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>>2971993
>Migrants tend to not use welfrare at all.
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>>2971997
They can be okay if you're fine with slow cruising, but beware the battery holders. The tabs frequently suck, and it's way better to have an actual plug soldered/spot welded on. I took a long range cruiser as my first, and it broke the most because it was so thin. Even slightly bad landings could snap arms. None of my freestyle quads ever lost an arm.
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>>2972021
I mean really, most of those people from countries like Bangladesh, Vietnam, Lebanon etc. have their own, small businesses and don't really use welfare. Maybe some Ukrainians do, but its still not as common. Most welfare is used by our own low-lifes who just have 5+ kids and either don't work at all or do some shitty, part-time jobs.
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>>2972070
Okay let's kick out that tiny minority of immigrants that are using it. You'll be good with that right?
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>>2971997
I have the Rekon 35 on the way, I'll post it when it gets here and I can fly it. I prefer to just cruise around. Barely flew at all last year.
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>>2971997
Newbeedrone lionbee just came out, for it's price kinda unbeatable. Watched some reviews, the only downsides I can see are power (of course) and frame is kinda weak. 20~ minute flight time.

I just bought the fractal engineering wingman, and will come back to this thread with my thoughts on it. Probably will get held up at customs.
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>>2972048
I think for the tabs I'll try fitting some 3d printed tpu inside the metal for added strength. I ordered the lionbee and an extra frame. Planning on doing maybe some light free style but mostly cruising and exploring.

>>2972135
Didn't know about the wingman, interested to learn more about it.
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>>2971993
> you only have value as a human if you’re currently a wage slave being exploited otherwise you have no reason to live

You’re being taken advantage of by your employer full stop

I’ve been on both sides , currently making 1% in commission of what goes in my bosses pocket every 30 days … it’s a lot man $100k a month off my sales alone plus the 2 other sales people
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>>2972070
Nobody thinks of those groups when they think of needless welfare users, and I think you're intentionally acting ignorant. Anyway, I'm not engaging further as we're off topic. Anyone done anything neat with plans lately?
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>>2972151
Being broke NEET is not cool though.
>>2972082
whatever
>>2972173
>and I think you're intentionally acting ignorant
Not really, I tried arguing with good intentions. We simply don't have those kind of "brown migrants" here.
>Anyway, I'm not engaging further as we're off topic
Yes, you are right, I apologize for getting off-topic.
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>>2972151
>you need to work to eat

Even socialists agree, yeah.
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Kayoumini came in, pretty stocked to build with it. It's my first build and can't decide to build hdzero or analog.

Thinking hdzero since I have hdzero 2s.
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First flight, first time ever diving a building with the mob8.

In hindsight this was really stupid to do, I could've lost the dam thing.
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>>2972428
Forgot webm
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>>2972429
>>2972428
I cant imagine living downtown ish and being into fpv, Im in the suburbs and theres alot of parks walking distance from me
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>>2972190
Being NEET is freedom and people hate it because they aren’t strong enough to live that way

If I were a better man I’d be neet, rather than the “dependable “ employee that is making the company run despite everyone else failing and trying to sabatoge me…if I were stronger I’d be meet or not care about the downfall of the workplace
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Step aside, tards.

About ready to buy a CP (Collective Pitch, glowie-sama) helicopter, does anyone have advice, all of them I remember as being good (at least for removing limbs) from when I used to fly FP and Coax.
My options:
>Thunder Tiger Mini Titan E325 V2
>Kyosho Minium Caliber 120 (R22 or Apache editions)
>JR Voyager E
>Align T-Rex 450L
>Align T-Rex 450SE V2
>Ikarus Eco 8
>Robbe Eolo
>Heli-Max Axe CP
The Axe CP is the cheapest at $75 including shipping and I have flown it around a bit in the sim. Took a bit of getting used to, but it is surprisingly stable for a smaller CP compared to Hirbo or Blade offerings in that size.
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>>2972428
"Diving a building," huh? I'm glad you found an area with no foot traffic at least, but I'd be terrified to do that with a whoop that could be blown out of video range or onto a roof where I can't retrieve it if Nature so much as farts its way. You really need taller buildings for that sort of thing if you're actually going to do dive, but do you really want to be one of the hooligans doing that somewhere busy?
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>>2972572
I'm nervous as fuck when I do these, I've barely been flying for a month but the adrenaline I get from the stunts I'm doing is like no other. Shitty crappy flying or not. The risk is there, but it's only $200~ drone.

Just dived the tallest building in the city, probably won't attempt this again. Dived it 4 times, almost got blown out of it once. It busy here because this place is shitty for walking. I normally fly in private areas with no one around.
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>>2972594
This is the part where I'd normally give you shit for pulling out so early, but given where you are it's the responsible thing to do. Don't forget to put some Sim time in, too. It is funny how even something relatively slow can be exhilarating, isn't it?
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>>2972594
>but it's only a $200 drone
Uh isn't the main risk the drone breaks a window or lands on someone's head and then you.need to pay them like a million bucks in medical expenses?
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>>2972716
He's flying a 2S whoop with prop guards that weighs like 100 grams. Personal injury and property damage are still considerations, but losing or damaging the quad are way bigger threats. I'd also be worried about being a nuisance to the folks around me, too.
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any other burgers enjoying the snow?
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>>2940377
If you're not flying in a war zone, clean that shit up.
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I wonder if this hobby will be another I just dip my toes into and bounce because I get bored. Already bought a p2s 3d printer and more drone stuff coming in. It's addicting to fly.
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>>2972952
be a good consoomer and spend thousands on items that have a good chance on being dust collectors
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>>2972953
$5k sim rig racing, dustbin. $10k gun/tacticool shit, dustbin.

Now drones and 3d printing. I’m fooked.
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>>2972956
I honestly dont get how people are like this, i see it on reddit all the time, first week in this hobby, dropped a grand.
Have peoples lives stooped so low they get off by consumption
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That’s a brutal assessment.

For me, it’s going from being poor to making a lot of money. Growing up not being able to have anything and then suddenly being able to buy whatever I want is a weird new feeling. My retirement is already set, I have a fulfilling life, and I’m not depressed, so I just bounce from hobby to hobby doing the things I always wanted to do as a teen.

I do agree about people who buy top 1% shit like the best camera for photography or the best bicycle for cycling. Like damn, take it slowly.
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>>2972957
I'm the opposite. Bought an Ender 3 V2 6 years ago, still using it and upgrading it to this day, damn is it kinda shitty though. Probably spent $200 on upgrades, but also I've spent a decent sum on obscure filaments. Same goes for soldering, I got a T12 station like 9 years ago and it's still working great (aside from when its MOSFET died short and brought the tip glowing red hot, replaced the FET and that tip still works fine).

I want to buy a toolchanger printer so bad, but they're getting better all the time so I'm waiting. Same for T245 tip soldering equipment that can push over 100W.

>>2972958
I guess I'm apprehensive about spending for a hobby. Economically hobby stuff is cheap, but buying a house is completely out of reach, I don't exactly want to get used to spending thousands at a time.
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>>2972982
>hobby stuff is cheap
I cannot even afford Hobbyking's prices nowadays, let alone what those chucklefucks aat Horizon or Motion are asking.
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>>2972982
dont know why people are obsessed with tool changer 3d printers, please dont tell me you plan to make multi color flexi dragons
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>>2972990
Let me correct myself:
hobby stuff is cheap on aliexpress.

>>2972992
If that's all I wanted I'd just get a printer with a colour changer. No, I want to mix engineering filaments (ABS, ASA, PC, PA, POM, etc.) with one another, with flexible filaments, and with seperable/dissolvable support materials.

Though lately I've seen more people print something out of TPU, then wait halfway through a PLA print to insert the TPU piece that gets printed over and locked in. Seems like a neat way to get composite 3D prints with any machine.
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>>2972428
You practice on a sim or something? My first flight was learning throttle control and realizing I have to memorize the area to land because I can't look down.
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>>2972723
Maybe even less. The mob8 is roughly 48g, and the recommended battery is 32g. It would be a challenge to break a window or harm somebody with it. I've rammed my mob6 into my head at high throttle a few times, and it feels itchy at worst.
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>>2972956
The hell you doing? Find a passion and stick with it.
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>>2972956
>>2973312
More like find God, if you’re having such a hard time finding a fulfilling use of your time.
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>Speedybee F405 V5 requires email registration to use the app and has a closed source ESC firmware
>V4 no longer available
These probably shouldn't be deal breakers, but they leave an awful taste in my mouth, especially while I'm in full Schizophrenia mode.
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>>2973792
That's a no go for me. My quads answer to my radio controller, and nothing else. I like my machines just smart enough to do their job. Anything more is somebody else's foot in the door for bullshit.
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What's a good antenna setup for analog. I am seriously tempted to go to the attic and retrieve the rabbit ears from the old TV.
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>>2973822
The closed source firmware on the ESC is the bigger problem. I just got fucked by DRL Sim shutting down their servers so I'm not keen on being forced to use some upstart's possibly stolen web configurator. The registration is only to unlock the Beta flight phone app functionality and doesn't prevent wired configuration, but I still don't like it or the mindset behind it.

Does anyone know if Speedybee has a history of listening to customers and changing things when enough people complain? They're software issues so it should be easy enough to implement a fix, at least. And for thatatter, does anyone have thoughts on OX32?
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>>2973878
What always got me about the whole SpeedyBee application was that it's not like it would be a ton of work to create a version that worked just like the standard configurator. It's just the same serial over COM port junk, and we already have open source code and graphics to work with.
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>>2971997
rekon 35 delibbered from banggood. Too much snow and cold to fly right now.

>>2973842
one circular polarized and one patch.
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>>2973842
What >>2973908 said. The combo is so popular it's sold in sets.

>>2973908
I've got a Seeker 3 and batteries on its way to me... Eventually. Tracking on these packages sucks and I think weather has slowed down delivery on top of that, but I'm ready to go flying. Come to think, I need to set up auto launch and unfuck the camera mount on my foam fixed wing, too...
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>>2971997
I was hoping these would make for good cruisers. Looking forward to first impressions.
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>>2973925
I have that combo. I've done over 5 miles on it.
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>>2973908
>>2973954
I cracked and bought all 3 options since they would all take a long time to arrive. My lionbee just came in, building it now. I really like the wingman frame, probably going to use it for travel. Not sure what fc or vtx to put in yet.
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It's hoarding time! Today's subject are GPS antennas. Looking at Liang's site, the HGLRC M100/Mini and Flywoo GOKU GM10/Nano look pretty good and pretty affordable. Is there anything I should be concerned about or any better alternative?
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>>2974024
I have a geprc m10 nano and it's good. I think the hglrc has the same m10 chip but it's around $10 cheaper so it's probably the better buy
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Lucked into someones crashed ardupilot build
Have a flight computer, TX , imu, etc.
Thinking about doing a 1-3m hex/octo copter with it since I have no interest in a fixed/vtol.

What are the current good hex/octocopter frames? Looking to do a long range build.
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>>2974177
Any chance you can figure out who it belongs to? The friendship might be worth more than the hardware.
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>>2974181
Given by a friend moving out of the country.
Pixhawk, some destroyed gimbal, etc

https://store.haohaninnovation.com/products/firefly-vtol
Was one of these at one point
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>>2974028
I ended up going for the HGLRC in both sizes. Despite using the same chip, the GepRC unit does connect faster, but also costs more. If I was just grabbing one I'd probably have picked up the GepRC, but for multiple... 40 seconds longer to get going won't kill me.

>>2974183
>$500
That's a strong friggin' friendship. I hope you do something fun with it.
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>>2974024
I've got a few of the Flywoo Nano units. As long as you get it more than an inch from the flight controller, it should perform decently. Managed a 7 sat lock in 30 sec yesterday. Not the best, but certainly acceptable.



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