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I make this first post in this general claiming it for the dark lord Satan. As above so below.
>>2942860Nice LARP, kid, off ya go!
>>2942860>for the dark lord Satan.literally only exists because of an ancient translation error, dumb larper
>>2942855Perfect. I want to make a Rosary with the cord and cross that I've been wearing since my conversion. I want it to still be a necklace. I've already been winding thread for the beads which is nice and subtle but I had the perfect idea.Is there anyway to preserve rose seeds, incase them in something perhaps, in a way I could wind them into the beads and daily wear them but they could still be able to grow? If not I'll just do it anyway and it'll be symbolic.Or any other ideas for subtle but classy rosaries like this. I was also thinking of very small silver pieces. I don't want the beads to be too big.
Go to mass instead of making this shitty thread.
>>2942860So you want to believe in the Christian cosmology but you're so dumb you're rooting for no free will and eternal torture? Instead of the loving all powerful creator you think a created being is cool?
>>2942860Corruptio optimi pessima; fpwp.
>>2942905Check with someone, but I believe rosaries are not worn as a necklace.
>>2942918You absolutely can. Read St Louis de Montforts Secret of the Rosary. People even claimed they could exorcise demons by putting their rosaries around someones neck.
>>2942855In all labor there is fruit, idle chatter leads only to poverty.
>>2942918I heard the crusaders used to tie their rosaries to the left side of their belt, so when they drew their sword to slaughter some Muzzies, the sword was blessed.
>>2942881How much of religious doctrine in general is influenced by translation errors. Not a very compelling argument
>>2942927You sound like a Twitter convert. I was raised in the Church and that was a major faux pas. Catholics seeking religious jewelry just wear a necklace with a crucifix pendant. Ask your priest if you don't believe me
>>2943012Basically none of it. We can go back to dead sea scrolls and Greek manuscripts from 60 ad and there's no doctrinal significant changes.This is fedora tipper Fudd lore
>>2943013No, I'm from an immigrant family. I am already baptised and confirmed. I could have said reversion but this really is the first time I'm embracing the gospel message, all thanks to Therese and a suicidal crisis that made me abandon all worldly hope.Most rosaries aren't made to be necklaces, the one I'm making is. I'm perfectly fine with making faux pas among the standard neo thomist fish fry catholic north american culture. My catholicity is folk and warm. I loved Pope Francis.
>>2943046Cont. Forgive my rashness, but heavens, the gate keeping.
>>2943030Tell me what an elohim is.
>>2943030Serious question as an agnostic I heard the dead sea scrolls were fake and the main one I know about was the Johannine Comma, is this true?
MURATIC ACID.
>>2943030I think the earliest found manuscript in general was 6th century bc, which is pretty neat. The various dead sea scrolls and septuagint are a lot more complete though and are around 2nd century BC to 1st century AD>>2943057not sure which part about the dead sea scrolls would be fake, they're just a collection of various writings that were saved in an area. Some religious, some cultural, etc. The Johannine comma is unrelated to the dead sea scrolls, but rather an addition mostly used in the medieval era that was likely just initially meant as a note in even earlier manuscripts. You probably won't find it in your Bible unless you use the KJV translation.
>>2943086And the dead sea scrolls proved all of our other preserved texts were good. They came at a time when anthropologist and archeologists were writing papers on phone games and text changes and all these nice graphs how ALL texts must change over time.Then dead sea scrolls came put and pushed our oldest original texts back 800 years and showed there had been no changes in those 800 years and we had previously determined there had been no changes from the previous date to the present. How embarrassing for all those academics.>>2943050Esoteric. Some guys went around saying they're part of demonology but demons are spirits so they can't breed with women. They could have been great patriarchs from cans descent. They were killed off during the flood or was part of israel's commission to take pit these last creatures
>>2943091Elohim aren't demons, they're some sort of physical living, breathing and mortal being that enjoys smelling burning animal fat (like for real they seem to get high or sedated from it. it's why there's so much about tabernacles) and have a bunch of flying machines. Yahweh and Baal were both elohim the highest elohim was titled elyon, many other elohim arel mentioned in the OT, yahweh was elevated to promincence by a bunch of 6th century bc rabbi prior to that he was only one of many. interestingly these elohim have equivalents in a vast number of ancient texts from around the world
>>2943094Still waiting for baal to be able to light that fire. Take your time
>>2943096I'm just saying what the bible tells you the elohim are.
>>2943103You ignored everything I said like you were telling me something new.
>>2943094>>2943103That isn't what the Bible says, though'Elohim' is mostly just used as a title for God. 'El' is the word for 'divine' or 'god,' and is in the plural form as a sign of respect (English used to do a similar thing, you is the plural of thou, but also you was used as a formal version of thou).While 'el' can refer to any divine or similar being (hebrew didn't have the same definition of 'god' as we have now in English), it's typically used for God Himself.'Elyon' is just 'most high,' so when the Bible says 'El Elyon' it's 'God most high.' You can see instances of 'elyon' being used as physical descriptors in other areas of the Bible, and in some areas calling God the most high.
>>2943124Elohim is not plural "as a sign of respect". That's a retconElohim is plural because the proto-Hebrews were POLYTHEISTS (like all other Semitic people). Yahweh was just one god among many. They said "Elohim" (the gods) in the oldest texts, before they went monotheist, to refer to them all collectively.The idea that "it's plural because respect" is later stage cope.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaanite_religion
>>2943162There are cases where the word elohim is used in the singular and cases in the plural. Forget the details. But one of them refers to the elohim of the nation's, gentiles, as opposed to the elohim of Israel. Which would make it a henotheism ?.. I think is the right word. Acknowledging multiple gods but worshiping one. Another refers to men themselves as elohim in a poetic way. Saying 'men are gods' something to that effect. Anyway, it's pretty well understood that Hebrews monotheism took time to develop. The important part is that it did. Because it's the truth.
>>2943162It isn't just a 'retcon,' there are plenty instances where the grammar surrounding the word itself is singular yet the word is plural. This wouldn't make sense if it was supposed to be taken as plural entirely. And this isn't necessarily a weird thing, other languages have or had the same feature, including English.Some cases may refer to multiple beings, but to say it's multiple gods the same way we use the word today doesn't quite transfer over. They would consider 'angels' and 'demons' as part of 'gods' (or rather described by 'elohim') as well, which our modern definition of 'god' would not typically count such beings. You're trying to apply our modern culture and understanding to one from a few thousand years ago, instead of trying to understand it as its own thing.
>>2943162>Elohim is plural because the proto-Hebrews were POLYTHEISTS (like all other Semitic people)No, it's plural because, well there were a lot of those beings running around, they were real physical beings driving around kavods. Only much later did theologists turn a history book into a religious text.
What would count as a christian DIY project?This thread seems like it will be easier than most /diy/ threads to derail.Does reforming the church and revoking vatican ii count as too big a project, I feel like I'd get burnt out.
>>2942855some people really didn't get bullied enough in school did they?
>>2943224What do you mean?
>>2943230you act like you've never been punched in the face really hard
>>2943221St Francis was a real OG. He came from a rich family and was like “This aint all it’s cracked up to be”. And he found a church he liked that was in disrepair, went and stole a bunch of silk and linens from his rich dad and sold it and used that money for materials to start rebuilding the church.>>2943224>>2943234Some people did enough bullying, knew it all, were way smarter than all those dumb people who had God because they didn’t understand science. And then they got a little bit older and wiser and the more they saw the world, the more they realized that science barely explains any of it and there’s something bigger at work.
>>2943256>>2943221Francis of Assisi’s /diy/ project
>>2943259mr. van dam, you do know shi'mon shalvaw faps to bustyboys and lies about his religion correct
>>2943263There’s a cool Rogan episode where he’s interviewing an American astronaut who was the dude with the most time in space out of anybody,They get into the conversation about something bigger, maybe aliens or intelligent design, and astronaut dude says something along the lines of “Now I may just be a fighter jet pilot, but we did tons of experiments on the ISS trying to see what it takes for biological life to get going, and too many things have to come together perfectly for all of this to happen without some help”.It’s about humility.On a more practical level, if you’re trying to be less shitty at life and want to be a better husband-boyfriend-son-brother-coworker, there’s a book called “Sermon On The Mount” by Emmet Fox that was recommended to me a bunch over the years. He looks at what Jesus taught, how it’s a change from Old Testament stuff, and how to work it in your life without worrying about the rituals imposed by organized religions. Jesus trolled the shit out of the Pharisees, those guys were all about who was the most holy because they followed all the lame rituals.
This is a first class relic I got for my parish, it's in rural Brazil, I'm doing a lot of cool stuff here, like, I have a few 3D printers, and men's rosary is restoring a few chapels, so I'm making icons and working on a cool holy water fountain. I'm doing a lot of it in plaster, too, I 3D print something, use silicon for a mold, and sell it in plaster form, not resin or PLA, it's still out of my budget to continuously print in resin and I'm still figuring out PLA kinks. I want to make a reliquary for it, for veneration, it's not just going to sit at the Altar.
>>2943782It's something I started doing out of boredom, I work from home and live in a homestead, usually I just play with my dogs or go for walks. It's a bit silly, but I really want to be helpful around here, I used to live in a big city and I'm used to a different kind of parish life. Teologia da Libertação really wrecked them.
>>2943221Not much benefit without removing the filioque too
>>2943782Kewl.>>2943263Completely false.
If there was something I learnt from this it's that the tripfag watches rogan...
How many of you have actually read the bible?One Nasa engineer managed to turn the book of ezekiel into a patent application
>>2946285>How many of you have actually read the bible?I have twice. from cover to cover. it was a slog, and boring as fuck.
>>2944847Not much anymore. I’ve been to busy with real people and a job I have to pay attention at most of the time.>>2946285I do in the mornings now. There’s a Catholic mass every day and I go through the readings in the morning to try and reflect and be less of an asshole throughout my day. Been on it again for like 6mos.
>>2946285>>2946312Picrel was the Gospel reading for today. Old Testament stuff is confusing except for like Psalms-Songs-Wisdom readings, but the New Testament, especially the Gospels and Jesus speaking, take some of it to heart and it can change your day. When you begin to meet some people that really have God working through them and you understand like what the “light” is, your outlook on life changes.Also I have to break it to /out/ that I gave up on making fishing threads because I’m with the J-Man instead.
>>2946285This says more about how stupid the patent office is than anything
>>2946446Nope, Bloomrich's omnidirectioanl wheels.https://spaceshipsofezekiel.com/other/US_Patent_3789947-omnidirectional_wheel.pdf
>>2946315>>2946312You will burn in hell for idolatry.But hey, at least your false prophet is a bears fan right?
>>2943268>Jesus trolled the shit out of the Pharisees, those guys were all about who was the most holy because they followed all the lame rituals.Hilarious how Jesus explicitly rebuked the idea of mans traditions over the infallible commandments in scripture.Now give me 10 Hail Marys, 5 Our Fathers, do the hokey pokey and turn yourself around!
>>2942855I don't have any pics but unfortunately in the past 5 years I've had quite a few animals pass away so I decided to make some crosses out of cedar 1x2s and use them as grave markers. They look alright but nothing fancy going on, put some kind of brick around them to section each one off as well. Looks like a nice animal graveyard now instead of just having a singular stone over where they were buried and left to be forgotten. Does that count as christian diy?
>>2946667>Does that count as christian diy?No, the bible explicitly says animals dont have souls. Its pretty inappropriate to put a cross on their grave, seeing how your animals wont be coming with you to heaven.
>>2946668Maybe but inappropriate? I wouldn't say that. Misused or something similar if its true but I personally see no wrong in it. >the bible explicitly says animals dont have souls.I thought they had at least something though. Some kind of soul or spirit or whatever, its not the same as a humans but it's still something.
>>2946671>Maybe but inappropriate? I wouldn't say that.It quite literally symbolizes the sacrifice on the cross, cleansing of human sin and the salvation of human souls.Humans were made in gods image, the animal kingdom were separate and not.Lots of people put crosses on all sorts of shit because its cliche, but if you want a stark actual answer, its pretty inappropriate to practicing christians.
>>2946674Dang... I guess some kind of concrete thing would have been better to use then. Like just one of those rectangle ones that lay on the ground or just a standard marker of any kind out of whatever material.
>>2946597I don’t think you know what idolatry is. You can have reverence for somebody without worshipping them as a God. Other tripfriend explained it well.Also a ton of Catholics didn’t like what Pope Francis was doing with the woke Commie type stuff, even a lot of priests. So it really showed how there’s limits to how infallible the Pope is.
>>2946695Can you explain how the immaculate conception is NOT idolatry?Mary is sinless like Jesus, and worthy to pray to as a gatekeeper to god? The scriptures literally contradict this, yet its a core tenant. >If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.>umm actually, you have to be baptized as a baby and follow a bunch of made up traditions that literally arent part of the infallible word of god!When you hear people talk about being religious and not following organized religion, its literally because the Catholic Church is a fucking farce and its followers dont read the fucking bible.
>>2946788If God cums in you, you’re pretty damn holy.John the Baptist was pretty dope too. If I wasn’t an Irish dude married to a Latina, I might agree that some tenants of organized Catholocism are unnecessary. I hated the Catholic Church after high school. It was on my 4th step as a resentment.But then you meet people like Father Paul and realize that a lot of smart people figured out a lot of things before you were born, and run with it because it’s good for your soul and will make you a less shitty person if you practice it in an honest way. And if you’re not all about that Catholic faith, read the Gospels and respect the J-Man and his wisdom.
>>2946796Keep reading your bible.Once you get past the vibe-religion stage of recovery and start caring what the actual scriptures say, youll realize why the catholic church is dead.
>>2946800Meh it went backwardsYou get about a dozen years in and then life happens and God gives you a swift kick in the nuts and does a lot of things that you thought were impossible and changes things completely nearly overnight. The big man saw somebody slacking on #11 and did what he does. A ton of miracles one after another where one can’t even question something bigger at work.And then all of a sudden people want ol’ Bepis the Sponsor?!
>>2946678Your pets are part of God's creation and will be there when it's perfected in the 2nd coming and you can continue to love them. Anon is a faggot.
Wife is keen on me cutting out patterns on a scroll saw for her to paint for a nativity scene for our son. Life’s good.
>>2946668which verse?they are said to have a 'spirit,' only part I've found to be unique to humans is the 'image of God'
>>2947221Based.Just bumping my threads before I take the next call.
Our church does work days and I gotta help fix a big section of drywall and ceiling (also drywall I guess; it's not tile) that got water damaged. I've only patched small holes but everyone there seems to think I have pro contractor skills. I'm going to watch some videos but if anyone can give me tips, that'd be cool. Aside from typical drywall and paint tools, is there anything else that might be needed?
>>2942855First time on this board, cool thread because I've always wanted to make my own cross pendantBronze seems like the best choice so that's what i'm going for, I made some casting molds out of wood planks, and I have bricks and charcoal for the simple furnace I'm making in my backyard. All I need is some pipes and play sand for the furnace, as well as a crucible and some copperhttps://www.instructables.com/Simple-Forge-From-Red-House-Bricks/here's the forge design I'm using
