upgrade to fully enclosed garage with auto-doors?Concrete costs $200/yrd, more or less. 6" slab means 6sq yards per cubic, so a 9yrd full load = 54sq yards or 6x9yrs or 18x27' slab for $1800 not counting steel, and maybe some gravel and fabric.then frame up the outside walls maybe with some of this shit (let in light) and frame ends for garage doors.Sounds lot cheaper than prices I'm seeing for "new detached two car".WTF am I missing?
>>2944399Do you already own the building/carport?
>>2944399>WTF am I missing?Electrical, plumbing, roof, insulation, paint and siding, storage and organization, interior finishes if applicable, epoxying floor, earthwork/grading of the soils before the pour, drainage, wifi, lighting, and climate control if you plan on wrenching in it. Does anyone else think thsoe open-sided metal carports are fucking stupid? It offers no security, no weather protection, and costs a ton of money.
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>>2944421>Does anyone else think thsoe open-sided metal carports are fucking stupid? It offers no security, no weather protection, and costs a ton of money.Does offer shade and protection from hail as long as it isn't sideways hail...
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>>2944427>Does offer shade and protection from hail as long as it isn't sideways hail...Thats about it; and as someone who lives in an area that hails multiple times per year every year, most of it comes down at an angle. Even if it comes straight down, now your carport gets dented to fuck. Now its just an eyesore that provides shade. They'd make sense where it never hails, isn't too windy, and you just need shade for UV protection. So... west coast who wouldn't put up such an ugly roof.
>>2944419not yet, house shopping>>2944421I'm just thinking adding concrete floor and sides to enclose it would be 90% of functionality at 15% of the price I'm seeing for a contractor to make a two car garage happen from scratch.I've got 100s of feet of cord and clamp lights, and shelves and shit, and even some alarms and CO and smoke detectors. Just having a place to put a car on jack and put shit on rolling wire racks and not have dust, birds, kids etc get into everything.IMO these car ports are like 10% of the functionality of even a tent.BTW, in places that get regular hail, how about putting a few sheets of plywood on roof racks? More like a couple 10ft 2x4s and about 4 sheets for a 8x16 cover (when parked)
>>2944506>I'm just thinking adding concrete floor and sides to enclose it would be 90% of functionality at 15% of the priceJust do it like the OP pic then; gravel ground, concrete footings acting as a pier/anchor, and just extend the metal all the way down. It'll be drafty and dirty constantly though. >I've got 100s of feet of cord and clamp lightsit just won't be as good as a garage and it'll look like shit with extension cords running out there. I kinda get it though, money doesn't grow on trees so save where you can but dont' cheap out just to have it 'today', save up and get something good that helps your property value and something you'll enjoy having. But if you're pouring a pad, and building it out to be a chinsey garage, thats all it'll ever be. >in places that get regular hail, how about putting a few sheets of plywood on roof racks?Theres a lot of people (usually poor idiots) that will pile bedroom comforters, mattresses, plywood, and other nonsense to protect their car when hail is very likely, and it always ends up going into the trash, getting blown away anyway because a few bricks can't hold down a king-sized sail, or it bumps and rubs against the car and damages it worse than hail anyway. Every time I see that shit its because they're in a massive apartment complex (understandable) or they have garbage piled up in their garage instead of protecting their car. They're storing garbage in there instead of protecting their $10, 20, 50, $100,000 vehicle out in the open. Its the most moronic shit I see regularly. Several of my neighbors have turned their garages into a second living room with couches, TVs, pool tables, dumb shit while their $100,000 truck gets annihilated. Gee Bill, should I protect and preserve my massively expensive vehicle, or just have a little more room to get drunk and watch football (but not in my living room for some reason)?
>>2944511I guess I'd put cords (and hose) in pipes under ground after a bit.I'm sorta wanting a FULL length lumber rack where it connects to front mounted tow hitch. Then I'd be able to mount plywood over the whole vehicle and windscreen.I'm current in among other things a Prius which has very horizontal front and back and the front is like a $1000 due to radar cruise.
>>2944600>in pipes under ground after a bit.I'm betting a shiny penny and a cold CocaCola that never happens. You're cheaping out on the start, you'll cheap out on burying conduit.
>>29446034/4/4 alum uhv direct burial does fine strung across the yard for a decade t. cheapass hillbilly
>>2944606Yeah, why bother doing it right when you can get drunk instead.
>>2944600I'm also thinking of clear or trans plastic just for massive natural light. I like to have big natural light BACK LIT shelving, no dark corners, even some plants in the big garage.
>>2944607>4/4/4 alum uhvhttps://nassaunationalcable.com/products/4-triplex?variant=27475861209188&country=US¤cy=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=siraj&utm_campaign=siraj&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20067636400&gclid=CjwKCAjwiY_GBhBEEiwAFaghvgsNvmdyFIT2eXFwqX4DdIp3zhO-Z71PVIjtNzAgwISIQIpe4yjlUxoCtlgQAvD_BwEEven says "direct burial" but I'd put it in pipe with room for water hose, partly just to be able to pull other shit via cords I'd also pull 1st time installing, like Co-axe, etc, maybe even mini-split or hot water from house.and partly just to protect and alert any diggers or rodents.
>>2944609>Even says "direct burial"Yeah, I get it. A manufacturer says it'll last several years without decent methods like conduit and cheapass hillbillies think its the best thing since warmed soup. Theres a difference in "yeah good enough" and doing it right.
>>2944611if only sparkys were as scared of frivolously blowing other peoples money as they are of brooms tbe world would be a better place
>>2944608>I'm also thinking of clear or trans plastic just for massive natural light.If you live where the sun cooks don't do this. We put skylights on our farm shop and it was a pain in the ass and I finally removed them and put tin on in their place and it has been so much better.>>2944609I just got some cable within a poly pipe conduit made for center pivot sprinkler systems that you direct bury. I threw a pex-al-pex and direct bury cat 5 cable and ran a pvc water line in the same trench too... And the one from the meter to my shop I ran the 200amp service feeder in Gray pvc conduit and ran a gas line from my house to the shop in the same trench too.
>>2944620they got film that totally blocks solar heat, but not light.was doing a school with big skylights and they forgot the film on one, and it was night and day after they fixed it. It looked same as other skylights but you'd walk across the room and all of the sudden you get blasted by Heat Ray. https://www.homedepot.com/pep/Frost-King-Indoor-Window-Insulation-Kit-9-per-Pack-V73-9H/202262335I've put this on outside windows for cold in moderately windy area and it all hung tough for the couple years I lived there. Couldn't access inside because goofy girl piled up junk, but I'd bet dual layer would start to work wonders and even cut sound etc. Might even make a "frame" out of self stick foam for 3 layers. Didn't seem to need Heat Gun stretch due to my skillz.
>>2944771>they got film that totally blocks solar heat, but not light.I mean the sun cooked the fiberglass panels and made them brittle and susceptible to hail damage. Anything plastic, fiberglass, or rubber around here will eventually cook to a crisp... But yes doing away with the skylights did seem to make the shop cooler as well.
