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>>2947917My design, the Galatea Multipurpose Companion Maid RobotRight now, I'm working on upgrades to the leg design and a backscratcher attachment.
>>2947917What are all these pictures?
>>2948327A collage I made for /robowaifu/ before. I chose it to represent robotics as a whole.
One good field for robotics is elder care. I heard that a regular caregiver costs thousands a month. So even if a robot caregiver costs a few thousand, it'll still be a good deal.
>>2948578That makes sense.
>>2947917>China is selling humanoid robots for 20kIt can't be that complex right? A bunch of sensors and motors in a case made of chinesium with some movement software?
>>2949514Yeah. The age of robotics is here
>>2949604But how do I make my own? No way that shit is worth the price of a used car.
>>2949605Start by learning humanoid robotics topics. Do you have Youtube?
>>2949776I don't want to watch Sandeep butcher my language to learn about stepper and brushless motors. I'm too ADHD for that shit.
>>2949808Lol. Fair enough, but there are plenty of White men producing content in this area. In fact rn we dominate. Here's a fun channel to watch. There's at least a dozen others.https://www.youtube.com/user/jamesbruton
>>2949828Thanks I'll check it out.
>>2949843Y/w. AMA.
>>2947917How soon until there is a news story about someone trying to fuck their Tesla bot accidentally getting their duck ripped off?
>>2949934Should be quite a popular feature for Trannies to cope, seethe, and dilate to? Maybe Tesla can brand it "The 41% Kit"! :DFor the rest of us, two words:Jailbreak.
>>2948532sex doll?
>>2951434Not really
>>2949604having one of these in the house that are remotely driven by AI would scare the shit outta me. somebody WILL fuck with these.
>>2947918I haven't popped over to /robowaifu/ for a while. Your project looks pretty interesting! Do you mind showing us a bit more about what it can do?
>>2955111it's a 3d print mounted to a roomba it can't do anything. It's not a robot even it has no motors no electronics, nothing.
>>2955314Tell us Art, what can your robot do?Not "what will it be able to do". What can it do right now?
>>2955314Oh, I see. You must have a much more impressive robot then, right? Surely something more than a pile of hot glue and crudely crafted pulleys.
>>2955331isnt he/Arby the guy who wants the AI to code itself? I'm guessing it cant do anything right now
>>2955371Yeah, that's him.It can't do anything because it doesn't exist. He has a thread up on here right now. His latest update is he twisted two short bits of wire together and put some tape over them. Elite roboticist.
I'd like to see more hobby robots on this board. It's something I always wanted to get more involved with but never pursued too much. I should get back into that.
>>2955111Thank you! It can clean floors with the robot vacuum base, hold a UV light for sterilization, act as a security camera, help facilitate virtual childsitting, use it's speaker with local AI to talk, use it's speaker to play "live" music, be a cuddle buddy, smash poisonous spiders, scratch your back, and be an emergency light.nice digits btw>>2955331>>2955358>>2955371>>2955433lmaoYeah Artbyrobot, let's see that self-improving code and robot building itself.Surely you're not one of those boomer Christians who think anything that helps men is a sin.
>>2955455>I'd like to see more hobby robots on this board.Me too.
Today is actually Galatea's birthday. Here's to more years of IRL, open source, and practical robowaifus and robotics!You can also see how she can sit at tables.
>>2955468What's the next thing you're looking to incorporate into the design? Head tracking? Object tracking?
>>2955475I'm currently focusing on promotion of the Galatea design and other projectsMy immediately next update is to further update the AI, and maybe a homemade tablet solely for the AI.>Head tracking? Object tracking?Interesting idea. I'll definitely consider it if I have more independent AI hardware (like the aforementioned tablet. It did give me the idea to make the eyes blink with a short animation.
>>2955489Could you elaborate on this a bit? I understand it might be early in the process.Are you looking to run models locally on the tablet? I would avoid that if I were you. Have a desktop PC that the tablet remotes to. Tablets can't run AI as well as PCs can, and the remoting doesn't add much complexity, as long as she can reach a router (which she probably can throughout the house).If you do it this way, you can have a pretty immediate upgrade to STT and TTS using Whisper and whatever the best TTS is at the moment (VibeVoice? There are many and it changes from time to time).>blinkingYou could do a little wink as well. That'd be cute.
>>2955544Currently, I'm promoting Galatea all over the internet, because I want others to build her, and I think it can genuinely change the world. That's why I made full instructions for others.>Are you looking to run models locally on the tablet? I would avoid that if I were you. Have a desktop PC that the tablet remotes to. Tablets can't run AI as well as PCs canThe AI is very open ended, with many AI software engines to use (software to run the AI model). In my manual, I detail how to run the AI on a smartphone (or tablet), or a Desktop PC. But since the speaker is a bluetooth speaker, and you need to press a microphone icon or type with the software, it's definitely much more natural and freeing to use your phone. The idea for a "homemade tablet" was so you have a dedicated device to run the AI (concept: touch screen with Raspberry Pi 5).>and the remoting doesn't add much complexity, as long as she can reach a router (which she probably can throughout the house).Having the audio work over Wifi is a good idea. I'll need to look into how to set that up. Another problem is needing a system for the robot to know when to listen. With my current system, the solution is to either use a STT mode that you have to activate manually, or have a STT typer, then submit the text input. With things like an Amazon Alexa, it always listens for a wake word, and disengages after sometime. Maybe I can do something like that, which would be really cool.>You could do a little wink as well. That'd be cute.I have a blinking gif I made recently, as well as some alternative eyes.
Hello. I am an extreme noob at this. I work as a tech at a factory and I'm fascinated with our pallet stacker robots, so I decided to try and build my own.Yes, those are cheap aliexpress servos. Yes, that's a RP2040. No, I will not be using external PSU's.
Wait, is this thread schizophrenics duct taping smartphones to mannequins, or is it actually about robots?
First ever robot is a failure. Aliexpress servos are not up to the task.Back to the drawing board!
>>2956936>>2956845That's very cool! If you have some money for more expensive servos may I recommend the SO-101 arm. Pic related are my arms
>>2947917I really miss the threads on 8ch they seemed to have a load of actual useful info and industry folks posting
>>2949514>>2949604>>2954799Want to know why they are so cheap? They are sold at a loss to collect data. These Chinese bots send data to Chinese IPs every 5 minutes. Not to mention they have multiple security vulnerabilities some reported and some not reported. Hardware sold at a loss for hundreds of thousands dollars in data siphoned back to China. That is why they are cheap.
>>2957305Which is why I'm not buying the Chinkbot 9000. Let me know when there's an open source robot build out there.
>>2957307The closest thing I know is mevita. Obviously needs work/redesign for more human aesthetic, but the hard work is done. https://haraduka.github.io/mevita-hardware/
>>2957308Someone should just reverse engineer the unitree robot and put the specs and code on GitHub. What are they gonna do? Take then to court for intellectual property theft?
>>2957305I well believe they are sending data back to China, but what I do not believe is that that data is worth $100,000+ per robot. If a 24/7 recording of my life was worth that much, I'd be selling them that data myself.They're probably trying to capture the market/establish themselves as a common name, probably state backed as they see it as a fair fee to increase their chances of becoming the goto supplier. I've been at some of their product show-offs and it feels that way.Their dogs are pretty awesome to be fair. The humanoids weren't that great, though it was an earlier version than the G1 I saw.
>>2956845>>2956936Nice work so far!
>>2957298Try /robowaifu/. That's where the refugees went
>>2957305>>2957307>>2957308>>2957309K-bot is at least partially open source
>>2957353It's worth it to have an army of hikackable bipedal suicide drones in every corner of America. China has perfected the art of the exploding lithium ion battery.
>>2957463Nah, if the loss is as is being suggested out, it'd be cheaper to send some MKULTRA'd mook on a holiday visa and have him go crazy with jerrycans and matches.Think efficiency. Killer robots would be such a hopelessly inefficient way of doing it, even if it does sound like a cool scifi movie plot.China might well just be screwing you over in a boring economy way rather than an excited death machine way. I know it's no fun.
Im 3d printing the new mask. I cant help but feel it might be too small by looking at it though. But as they say. Move fast and break things… sometimes… ugh
>>2957546Yeah no im doing this backwards. I stopped the printer.
>>2957550my brain finally collapsed now that im 36...Its over... sips
>>2957557You really should be using cad for mechanical things. Plasticity is good for beginers since it has a UI that is meant to be understood by normal people instead of engineers.
>>2957645I go back and forth between fusion 360 and blender
>>2947917Can you make robotic stuff at home? Would be nice to have someone to talk too
>>2947917how long until we have rideable robot mounts that can gallop or fly faster than cars?
>>2948578that's a lotta killed elders.... like allowing robot doctors would kill people without enough cash or insurance.no conscience means more death
>>2957670I make robotics stuff all the time>>2957744And human doctors don't do that?You could probably write an encyclopedia of human malpractice from the last 20 years alone.
>>2957353>Estimated value: $110,000/220,000 per robot over lifetimeEnvironmental/Spatial Intelligence: $30,000/50,000>High resolution 3D mapping of interior spaces>LIDAR generated floor plans and facility layouts>GPS tracking of robot movement and location patterns>Identification of valuable assets, security systems, safe locations>Industrial facility layoutsAudio Surveillance Data: $15,000/25,000>Continuous microphone access capturing conversations>Voice pattern recognition and speaker identification>Business meetings, trade secrets, confidential discussions>Household conversations revealing purchasing intent, political views>Password/PIN mentions, security questions answersVisual Surveillance Data: $20,000/40,000>Camera feeds of people, documents, computer screens>Facial recognition data for household members and visitors>Document capture (contracts, financial statements, proprietary info)>Behavioral pattern analysis>Biometric data collectionNetwork Intelligence: $10,000/20,000>WiFi network credentials and topology>Connected device inventory (IoT ecosystem mapping)>Network security posture assay>Potential pivot point for deeper network penetration>Corporate network architecture in business deploymentsBehavioral/Demographic Data: $5,000/15,000>Daily routine patterns and schedules>Consumer preferences and lifestyle data>Home occupancy patterns>Health indicators from gait analysis>Socioeconomic indicators from home environmentIndustrial/Commercial Intelligence: $20,000/50,000>Manufacturing processes and techniques>Quality control procedures>Supply chain information>Employee productivity metrics>Proprietary operational methodsAggregate/AI Training Value: $10,000/20,000>Real world robotics training data>Human robot interaction datasets>Physical manipulation task examples>Navigation algorithm improvement>Computer vision model training>>2957463this also>t works in robotics: is taken from one of our internal documents
>>2958993I guess each of the values are the minimum and maximum estimated values per robot, right?I really have trouble believing:>Password/PIN mentions, security questions answersThat would be illegal pretty much everywhere. I don't see how you would monetise that, and even handling it is a stupid and unnecessary risk for your company. It brings all the rest of your claims into doubt.Also, if you really value my personal data that much, why don't you just offer to buy it? Many people would take that deal right away and you could skip all of this covert stuff. You wouldn't even need to develop and sell a robot.>this alsoWhat do you make of this? >>2957465Anyone who's thought about this for a little bit would see that suicide robots in homes are inefficient. I don't think you're telling the truth.
>>2959003>That would be illegalSo is putting lead in baby food and children's toys and yet every single year somebody has their kid die because China is an Anarcho capitalist country with the PR firm of a Communist one.
>>2959006So this guy is Chinese, and he's just casually spilling state secrets about China's plan for a robot uprising as a reply to a robowaifu thread on 4chan? Get real.
>>2959007Who? Where did I accuse anybody here of being Chinese? Are you ESL? There unitree robots have a high value to the manufacturer that is in itself a state owned enterprise BECAUSE of the valuable sensor data being sent back to China in an unencrypted format. You can say "they can't do that, that's illegal", but they prove time and time again that they really don't give a shit about laws. Even the common sense ones like don't use lead in products meant for human contact. Why the fuck would they care about your faggy laws around data privacy? If you are dumb enough to buy one of these chinkbots and put it in your home you deserve to have your bank account drained before it self destructs and locks you inside your burning home.
>>2959011>Where did I accuse anybody here of being Chinese?I said he would be breaking the law, you say Chinese people don't care about breaking the law. How would that be relevant unless the implication was that he was Chinese?I don't have anything to say on the matter other than what I already wrote here >>2957353The privacy thing is not about laws. I know they'll happily break those. What I'm saying is:>1. Personal data is not worth as much as is being claimed>2. Suicide bots are ridiculous, and if this were real then >>2958993 would be posting huge state secrets for no reasonAlso, saved your pic. Very nice.
>>2959014The implication that he needs to be Chinese to know that the bots are sending back data is the part where I think you're wrong. It's already known that the robots all have a security exploit that the manufacturer refused to fix. https://spectrum.ieee.org/unitree-robot-exploit#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17636547212550&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fspectrum.ieee.org%2Funitree-robot-exploitAn exploit that allows remote takeover of other robots in the vicinity. Basically stuxnet all over the world with the ability to do all of the things that poster said. You don't need to be Chinese to understand that those sensors combined with that intentional vulnerability are worth way more than the robot itself when placed next to the right target.
>>2959016That's not what I'm saying. I'm that because I said that would be breaking the law, and you said that Chinese companies don't care about breaking the law, you must be suggesting he is Chinese and therefore willing to break the law, otherwise your statement is non-sequitur and I assumed you wouldn't do that.Do you at least recognise that publishing state secrets in a coombot thread is absurd? Any killer robot plan has to be in collaboration with a state, and he would have just posted about things which obviously wouldn't be cleared for publication.
>>2959024That's why I'm asking if you're ESL. >Doing those things with the data would be illegal>Chinese companies don't give a shit about what is legal or not>The poster saying they could do those things with the data making the robots more valuable than the MSRP does not need to be Chinese to know this
>>2959028So you're saying you think that the company this poster supposedly works for is an integrator of Unitree robots? You're posting about Unitree security flaws, but you don't think he's Chinese, so that's the only conclusion left.Why would Unitree even tell the company they're selling to "hey, we're going to to do covert illegal things with the robots we sell you"? Any company would be stupid to take a product like that where they're being told outright that the provider will be stealing PINs and passwords.Just, think about it, think about whether it sounds believable to you, or whether it's just some made up shit online.
>>2959032Ok I'm certain you're ESL now. At no point did he claim to work for a Chinese company and I didn't imply he did either. It's publicly known that the unitree robots have an exploit of hard coded admin access that can be used to control an entire network of robots if they're in range. The rest is just inferred from logically understanding what those sensors can do with malicious intent.
>>2959046English is my first and basically only language.You're not addressing any of my points. You're so committed to your Metal Gear Solid killer robots idea that you can't even read anything that might bring that into question.Who is doing the spying, in your opinion, and paying over $200,000 per person? Who is going to control these killer robots?
>>2959047>PayingSomething having a high monetary value doesn't imply that somebody is paying that monetary value. In fact it's better that they get it for free because people all fucking retarded and would gladly let a trojan horse into their homes if you sell it at a discount. Unitree makes the robots and part of their funding is from the Chinese Communist party. Article 7 of the Chinese National Intelligence law requires all organizations and citizens to comply with state data collection demands. That means if the CCP wants to access the various sensors of the network of robots, they can. And so the question becomes, how much is a bipedal remotely controllable robot that can self destructs at will worth to an intelligence organization? The answer was provided by that poster that you think needs to be Chinese. In reality you just need common sense. Honestly it would be better if you were ESL. Now you're just being obtuse at best and retarded at worst.
>>2959051It's a nice sounding bit of conjecture, but where is your proof that these values given are based on anything at all?Where are you pulling this "self destruct at will" stuff from too? How do you suppose that will work, and how will it be better than just sending a person to cause harm?The truth is, it would be fairly easy for a state to kill almost anyone on Earth. Just look at the United Healthcare CEO assassination as an example of how you don't even need state-level resources, then look at some more extreme cases like Iranian scientists being killed by Israel, which can get very advanced. The problem is it's usually easy to trace that killing back to a state, which has significant political implications, and is generally more trouble than its worth.The CCP using a Chinese made robot to somehow (unspecified how at the moment) kill a person has got to be one of the most traceable methods available.>Honestly it would be better if you were ESL. Now you're just being obtuse at best and retarded at worst.There's no point in trading petty insults.
>>2959051>>2959065And a bit more as well because you still haven't addressed this. Why is Unitree, the CCP, or anyone else, making this password stealing killer robot stuff known to anyone at all, and why is that person then posting what would be a globally significant secret here?Use Occam's Razor. Which is more likely? What you are proposing, or a fake post?
>>2959007No I'm a White American who's a contractor and works in robotics. That estimated value per robot was taken from an investigation on companies selling humanoids at a loss like optimus, unitree and neo. We cannot even come close in price ours will be close to 50k (industrial market who need a larger and stronger bot over other offerings), which is almost double from others. BTW almost everything on that list is illegal, but if you really think that's going to stop anyone even someone like Tesla, I have a bridge to sell you. Tesla/Amazon/Google/Apple already siphon insane amounts of data, much of which would be considered illegal. Unitree doing the same is no different. The killer robot stuff is a meme but it's still a real possibility. If you can't realize this, you deserve to be robo executed. >>2959024>MUH LAWSDo you realize no one gives a fuck? This era is literal silent WW3, the information war. If you think adversaries who want nothing more for your country to fail and for you to die are going to follow your laws, I have a second bridge to sell you.>>2959066>Why is Unitree, the CCP, or anyone else, making this password stealing killer robot stuff known to anyone at allIf you actually look into it, it was discovered, Unitree/CCP weren't advertising they have security vulnerabilities and are siphoning data. You're arguing against strawmen. They were caught doing it and didn't fix it. This proves the security stuff is intentional and when questioned on the data being sent back, they never responded, which proves they don't want to talk about what's being captured at all.that list is just a bunch of stuff that CAN be stolen via a robot, not that this is exactly what was found to be stolen.>globally significant secret herenot really, they printed that estimated value per robot being sold at a loss on paper which was never tracked and recollected, it's not some major secret. anyone could have taken the paper home (many did) and it get lost
>>2959205>No I'm a White American who's a contractor and works in robotics.I believed that to be so. The clause about you being Chinese is part of the question posed to the other poster. I think that might be part of why he and I were not able to talk properly, because he thought that was something I was claiming, and only the second part was a question.>That estimated value per robot was taken from an investigation on companies selling humanoids at a loss like optimus, unitree and neo.This would have been a lot clearer if we knew these were speculative values rather than planned values.>The killer robot stuff is a meme but it's still a real possibility. If you can't realize this, you deserve to be robo executed.It's a possibility in the same way that any type of assassination is a possibility. People get all worked up about robots because they've seen too many scifi movies. If a state wants you killed, they already have a way of autonomously moving and firing a gun. A man with a gun. They're not going to be mass executing civilians with these things anyway. Maybe they can clumsily execute one or two people before everyone catches on, and then we all switch off our robo maids. It's a one and done technique that requires a whole industry to be built up and then knocked down again after use. There are far easier ways for a state to assassinate basically anyone that already exist and are in use. e.g. Novichok assassinations.>This era is literal silent WW3, the information war.Metal Gear Solid.Sure, China isn't going to follow laws it doesn't want, and I found most of the rest of your post believable because of that, but after a point in a BCA breaking the law has a higher cost in terms of detection, reputation loss, and product disuse than benefit. The password stealing one crosses that line, and when I replied about laws it seemed your post was purporting to contain actual budget values rather than speculative ones. That was the claim that was unbelievable.
>>2959065It has a battery so All it has to do is overload it/overheat it to get it to blow up and you can easily say that it was an accident/mistake
>>2961157It's not just that simple. When batteries explode it's not like a shrapnel grenade.Still doesn't address how it's a better method than sending a man with a gun either. It has to beat "man with a gun" to be worth destroying an industry over.If they claim it's an accident, how many times do you think that will work as an excuse against meaningful targets? Once? Maybe twice? Again, it's not worth building up and tearing down a whole industry when they already have men with guns, men with jerrycans of gasoline, men with grenades, rockets launched at aircraft, Novichok style poisons. There are so many different ways states have available to assassinate people they think the payoff is worth it for, and none of them require destroying a billions of dollars industry so they wil always be preferred over this ineffective and inefficient method.Just think about it. That industry worth billions is a much better tool for harming America economically than any potential gains to be had from killing maybe one person in a stupider way than methods they already have available.
This robot is missing a facehttps://youtu.be/l63OrgqqWPU
>>2947918Movement Demohttps://youtu.be/tMykj03-rsk
>>2962147The doll part wobbles around quite a bit when the roomba stops.How are you controlling the roomba? If you have direct control of the motors maybe you could have them come to a smoother stop and prevent this rocking when the base stops. There are open source firmwares for robot vacuum cleaners out there, though their availability will depend on your model specifically. (Many of them are just reskinned versions of each other, even from different companies, so you might be able to port it if not.)
>>2962440>The doll part wobbles around quite a bit when the roomba stops.Yeah, I noticed that too. Aot of the problems come from the soft carpet my place has.>How are you controlling the roomba?Remote that came with it>There are open source firmwares for robot vacuum cleaners out there, though their availability will depend on your model specifically. (Many of them are just reskinned versions of each other, even from different companies, so you might be able to port it if not.)Interesting. I don't really know the model, I just know what the specific model looks like. I bet a more expensive vacuum has more control.
>>2962553>Aot of the problems come from the soft carpet my place has.I think it's just a leverage thing. The doll is tall compared to the roomba you'll get this wobble no matter what surface it's on.>Interesting. I don't really know the model, I just know what the specific model looks like. I bet a more expensive vacuum has more control.It's not really a matter of how expensive the vacuum cleaner is, because probably none of them have this gradual decceleration on stock firmware because there's just no need for them. Try and find the model (there might be a product code on the bottom you can look up if not the full model name). Take a look here too at other efforts to get more control over these cleaners:https://valetudo.cloud/
>>2962570Interesting, thank you
