>>2948229
yes batch plant manager looks a lot better on your resume because you have to deal with fucktards all day instead of driving around listening to podcasts by yourself. that translates into any industry where driving the truck translates to driving the truck. don't piss away an opportunity just because of some whiny dick shit you don't want to have to deal with. plus there won't always be a management position but fucking ANYBODY can drive a cement truck, even a burnt out ex-batchfag

>>2948231
I'm going to defend my profession and point out that driving mixer trucks isn't for everybody including seasoned truck drivers, and can be pretty fucking tricky and requires more knowledge than simply being able to drive the truck without rolling over or hitting anything. But yeah I get your point. I'm just wondering if it will only impress other concrete companies, or if I can eventually parlay this, through probably several hoops, into being one of the dickheads sitting in a white pickup truck chainsmoking cigarettes getting $120k to yell at mexicans and sweet talk inspectors.

you can just put both on your resume
you don't have to actually have the job to put it on your resume
you did it, have the experience and skills
nobody checks that shit, they ask you about it and judge your legitimacy by response

>>2948240
>into being one of the dickheads sitting in a white pickup truck chainsmoking cigarettes getting $120k to yell at mexicans and sweet talk inspectors.
finish carpentry is the best way to get into project management, as for shell stuff, you would work your way through carpentry and making forms, to laying steel, to pouring and finishing concrete, to doing masonry, to setting trusses and sheathing the roof. the way we do it the shell contractor does everything up to the roof being ready for the roofer and then we take over and dry it in and finish the build. to be the guy talking to inspectors you really need to know the whole job, other trades, all that stuff. unless your concrete company sends out supervisors to manage the pours and the trucks and stuff I don't see being a plant manager as a way to become a project manager.

>>2948271
>unless your concrete company sends out supervisors to manage the pours and the trucks and stuff
We do. We are a pretty big deal in the area, it's not some bullshit residential deal with one plant and 5 drivers. We're doing it.

>>2948271
>finish carpentry is the best way to get into project management
No it's not, framing is
Finish is basically inconsequential

>>2948276
Not that guy but i find it hard to see how being a supervisor for a concrete truck company would translate into being in project management. Like you're only there for short periods at a time then you leave. Do you know how to layout a project for grading? Do you know how to check if the concrete guys have your anchor bolts all in the right places? Do you know how to check that the framers are giving you the correct ROs? If you want to get into project management you need to be able to read plans which is why I just said framing is the best pathway to project management. No one looks at the plans more than framers.

>>2948276
>We do
the being a batch manager is your fist step in retard wrangling and problem solving. if the job you want is in the company you are at, keep advancing. sounds like they are giving you an opportunity. take it. starting back at square one sucks.

>>2948287
>Finish is basically inconsequential
that's funny because i am a project manager and got here because i also have a finish carpentry business. i interact with all the trades. please tell me more about my job.

i spent two years being a regional manager for a new construction plumbing company, interacted with all the project managers daily and they were mostly unorganized retards
i thought it reasonible to pivot to. i manage the 100 plumbing projects start to finish, communicating with the builders and other trades nonstop
skill seems the same
then spent a few months applying for project manager jobs and nobody would take me
was pretty disappointing. i'm quite confident i'd do better at it than the majority of the ones I interfaced with, but I'm also glad to now have absolutely nothing to do with new construction
that shit is obnoxiously (((illegal)))

>>2948295
>project manager jobs
they're usually given to guys who have worked for the contractor for a long time who he trusts and has rapport with. hence the abundance of idiots.

>>2948296
well that's the fucked this, i worked for primarily this one builder for those two years and thought I had an amazing report
so when I applied to them and they said 'we need you to have experience with not $1mil houses' i was slightly peeved, like i get it. so I asked the guys, who do I apply with?
they recommended the shit builders that do the 300k houses and they all had 0 interest. so yeah working with them is probably mandatory, I guess I was just working with those outisde a starting position and shot myself in the foot
or whatever, i'm really glad i'm not in new cosntruction anymore

>>2948300
in my experience it's nepotism or you're screwed no matter what. i do new construction but our builds are 2-4 million with a final market value of $10 million give or take.

Thanks for the replies guys. I understand I might not get to be a superintendent from where I am, but I can move up vertically in the company and there's like our chemical supplier that some guy have graduated to that seems like a big step up in pay and technical ability setting up the wires and equipment, we're also owned by a major global aggregate conglomerate so there's that too. I ran the plant a few more times over the last week, I doubt I'm going to have a truck much longer.

You'll need to put some time in on the receiving end of the concrete if you want to run a flatwork crew or I suppose formwork. You're likely a competent operator with the hours behind the truck, but the higher you go into the construction side the more you'll have to deal with crew, rely on trade knowledge to fix intangibles, and manage the business side. I expect more people in your position want to get into a crane than jump into the construction shit show. That's not to say there aren't GCs just milking it when they position their business correctly.

>>2948905
keep it up and stay with your company if they are promoting you. make sure they are increasing your pay though! more responsibility should come with more money. never be afraid to ask for a raise and know what you are worth.

>>2949016
I actually am also considering getting into lattice crane work. But that generally requires some training and if I take this jump into batching which I am I won't be on the ground talking to crews that might be interested in fast tracking me to being an operator for their company.

so yeah boys today I batched again for the second half of the day and tomorrow my truck is being loaned out. I have been batching loads every day for the last week and it sounds like my truck might just start not being my truck. I'm gonna grab my sledge and shovel out of the cab and likely moving to operations very soon. I had my mid year evaluation and the driver managers asked me do I think I want to move into operations and they would facilitate that. So I guess here we go.