I'd love to work in a trade and learn how to do something real and not sit in some office all day like a faggot, but I have OCD and I'm worried about how toxic or dirty the work is. Am I just overreacting? Welders have to deal with fumes for example. That can't be healthy to breathe. Electricians have to go into dirty attics. Plumbers have to literally deal with peoples shit all day. Construction sites in general seem really hellish and not healthy.Sorry if this isn't on-topic enough for this board janny, but i'm assuming a lot of people in trades lurk here.
>>2948545you forgot carpenters
has anyone ever made an argument that because welders have such serious PPE like these expensive PAPR separate air systems and big fans/vents blowing fumes away, they're actually breathing cleaner air than the average office worker in a city? They literally have $3k portable HEPA filters.
>>2948545Lots of plumbers only do commercial construction and mechanical contract work for things like the photo you posted. You can go to a trade school which here are run by the union.
>>2948570I think stuff like that picture is really really cool, like art. It doesn't have to be plumbing, but I want to do something that allows for that quality of work. I definitely wouldn't want to be working on a construction site to build mcmansions on a housing development. I don't want to do anything that's cheap and disposable.i've been looking at community college programs. some people on r*ddit say you shouldn't do that because "how you learn in the classroom isn't how it works on the job, it's all useless" but i don't know how true that is.>>2948554i don't really see carpenters do anything special. i'd do it but it'd have be more than the above, like timber frame houses and log cabins.
>>2948545On the flip side, if you're good at cleaning up after yourself you'll be well liked on a job site.
the thing is jobs like that are 1/20 or so. just the nature of field work unless you're self employed and really picky. I work for a plumbing company and my time is split between shitty remodels in old houses, shitty patch jobs on old businesses, interesting additions by rich people, necessary repipes, clog busting. realistically the cost of that work (assuming limited to what is visible and including the rebuild of whatever pump/filter that is would be >10k$they're fun jobs and bring light through the pile of bullshit that is necessary to fix, but it's rare anyone is willing to pay for it. so you take a picture and bask when the opportunity exists.lmao right out of the picture that all tie into 30 year old cpvc that had to be hand sawed so it didn't crack
>>29485453 levels of tradies>the braindead gruntsjust do things but know nothing why and how to to it, think mexicans or poles>the service techread all the books, knows how it should work, rarely can make it work when faced with the above.>the trained fitter/low level engineerdesign it, install it and service it later.you can make easy money joining the first, some more doing the second, you make bank doing the last.
>>2948545read>>2948654if you really wanna do some types of work, there's not gonna be full-time amounts of it for long in the same place.
>>2948579you don't know how to do shit, you will never build anything, keep posting welds you found on reddit though, that's definitely a skill
>>2948730yeah i know it looks gay to talk like i'm going to do some high end stuff when i haven't even tried it out yet. im wondering if you actually get work involving stuff like that though or if it's just mcmansions and residential repairs at poor peoples houses
>>2948558I’m in welding school right now and there’s a girl in our class who has the big 3M PAPR welding helmet. I’m so jealous. I really want to get one once I’m out in the field but they are 3k like you said and the filters are expensive af to replace. I highly doubt my employer would pay for the filters when they could just give me pancakes
>>2948545>I want money but I I don't want to get dirty>t. Mike Rowe
>>2948732go build something or design something instead of deluding yourself on the internet about what you could do
>>2948545TIG welding or machining could be worth considering. Both are detail-oriented trades that are usually done with fresh, clean materials in a relatively clean shop. If you do TIG for a decent employer they'll have fume extraction systems.
>>2948680why should anyone use your custom designed bs
>>2948741It's not about getting dirty but about avoiding serious health problems from exposure to who knows what.
>>2948545Weird, I'd swear I already wrote and posted this exact reply but I don't see it, and can't see why it would've been deleted.Anyway, how about low voltage electrical? If you're cool with travel you could basically just go around wiring up new data centers so it'd pretty much all be clean work with brand new materials. Those OCD tendencies could be good for the job if they translate into cleaning up after you work, good labeling and documentation, and well-organized wiring and conduit runs too. >>2948738I just started welding school myself, and working with 6013 really makes me wish I had one of those. We have fume extractor things over our booths but somehow mine is pulling the smoke right into my face.
>>2948545OCD in a trade is a good thing. However… office people will rule over you You have to sit in meeting rooms and listen to square this circle, connect, circle back, prioritiesAnd be the blame for everything going wrong
I used to be kind like this particularly with having shit on my hands (because I used to smoke weed and didn't want chemicals to get on my weed). You get over it. I deal with silica dust and grease all of the time now and I don't really care. You really don't want to "sit in an office all day like a faggot". For starters, if you aren't somebody important those excel email do nothing jobs are going away, secondly even if they aren't going away office culture is so unbelievably gay and stiffling. I show up to work and says "what's up fucker" to my batchguy and then the loader operator who is a 59 year old salvadoran man shows up and the two of them play fake grab ass and we figure out what the day is gonna shake out like before cranking it out. In an office you're smothered by women and forced to develop some fake gay personality and participate in endless performative bullshit.
>>2948579Carpenters do everything everybody else does retard and THEN they work with wood. Plumbing, electrical, concrete, windows and doors, landscaping, all of this is shit carpenters do too. Maybe not the union fags, but real carpenters can do all of this. Everybody else is just pretending to be a carpenter.
>>2948956do carpenterfags really?
>>2948956I told you that you have been replaced by Victor Sanchez' crew and I said good day sir.
>>2948883the reason people use me to design stuff is getting a really good architect that draws every wall in a house costs $150k and takes a year or two. Once you have those drawings you now need to send it to a millwork company to have them do it and really good millwork companies normally have a minimum wood package cost of $1 million. i design cabinets and the millwork package and make 20% of the cost plus I do the millwork that isn't cabinets myself. Current job cabinets are ~$350k, and the millwork is going to be another $250k.
