woodsisters sharing ideas
>>2950940power tools help generate crap much faster and they help hide crap workOP is artisanal. We're making carryout vs fine dining.
>>2950568Witness the turds I have polished this day.
how do i make this nice?
>>2950564i was going to ask how you got good at that but then I remember what I tell people, by doing it, messing it up, and repeating until you get better. nice work anon.
>>2950558>>2950560>>2950561>>2950562>>2950564I wanted to ask if you're from eastern europe because the style is oddly familiar but the 5th photo gave it away hai noroc vere, de cati ani te ocupi de asta?
Where can you get small offcuts of various hard woods for cheap?
>>2951217noroc, de vreo 6 ani >>2951211lots and lots of frustration, autistic fixation on detail
>>2951171with a router jig the fancy way, or with an angle grinder and sandpaper pads the cheap way
I glued up a few boards sandwiched between 2 plywood sheets to make a tabletop for a low workbench. Alas it has warped along the long axis and I'm racking my brains as to what the best method is for straightening it out. The top is 105x40x3 cm and the concavity is 0.25 cm at one end and 0.3 cm at the other. My only idea so far is to glue and screw on straight pieces of wood at either ends and the middle running along the width to force it flat. Only question then is whether to clamp it on the concave or convex side or if it matters at all. Pic attached in case I didn't explain properly. The lines across the board is how I'd attach the aforementioned straight pieces.
Nice craftsmanship for a start! Really cool!…and now for something completely different:Industrial grade shit!That’s like the worst joint I’ve ever seen. Take the cheapest particle board, put a V-notch in it, put some fake, plastic veneer on it, fold it, done. Surprised me that it held for that long. For a used cabinet I got for really cheap for the kids room, it wasn’t a big deal, since that was an easy fix, but apparently, that’s a name brand cabinet that cost a few hundred euros. WTF, I’d be really pissed, had I bought this POS for full price.
>>2951534Actual mill. Pieces that have wild figuring and unique growth marks are less desirable for cabinetry where they would create nonuniformity. >>2951703Yeah. Work at a shop if you want to spend all day fussing with edge banding. Then they'll try to do a run of some sort of textured photo finish or whatever laser printed and clear coated sheet trash. It's not even a veneer that gives you so many millimeters to attempt to correct an issue. Commonly banding machines, cnc, or shop saws might still chatter the cuts because there's no integrity to the surface. The core is junk too, but that's generally not a problem. It's cheap for somebody to make and takes a job away from a painter or finisher.
>>2951569thanks router jig is not expensive too
should i get a circular saw or a routercircular saw will enable me to cut up and modify boarded furniture can't use anything else for this purposerouter could help me with perfect mortises
>>2951959buy tools as you need them. if your project needs a circ saw get that, if you're doing mortises get that. mortising with a router though is kind of a pain since you also need a jig, which if you're not building one will cost another $100 for a reputable brand
>>2950558you post in /wwg/ all the time why the fk didn't you follow the pastebin and title
>>2951959For any kind of woodworking, you need at a minimum a drill/driver, a circular saw (then a track/miter/table saw), and a router. you need some basic hand tools for measurement like rulers, tape, square, and a couple of chisels. Buy as you need them, but skilsaw and router are so fundamental, you really need both, but can start with the saw first.
>>2951959I was in your position and I got a skilsaw first but at that time I didn’t have a mitre saw so I’d just use the kreg cross cut joh which worked surprisingly well with the cheapest makita circular and it cuts good lap joints tooIf you consider a router dont forget that you’ll want to invest in dust extraction too and goggles and a peltor unless you like having dinner covered in dust with a wood chip in your eye and tinnitus
>>29520532nd for hearing protection with a router, damaged my hearing for a few weeks routing out the back of this 14 foot window sill...
>>29520533rd for earpro, bluetooth ones are alright but be careful not to get distracted by them. I also wear a respirator all the time ever since I started monitoring air quality in my shop
>>2952032obviously i have a drill and a shitty table saw and other hand tools but circular saw is better for boards ie sheets and hand mortising is imperfect and can lead to crooked structures
>>2952026don't even know what that word is and to going to google it
first frame jobthings used: manual miter, a router, a chisel, already planed oak rectangles
I have maybe a stupid question and know little about stick frame houses butIf everyone recommends against screwing down into end grain why do I see framing videos from other countries where professional crews build entire walls by screwing long big screws into the ends of 2x4s. Are they wrong or is it okay under certain conditions
>>2952225in theory it isn't quite as strong but when you are building a framed wall it is just fine because pullout force isn't the load applied to the fastener, it's shear strength. also, almost all load applied to stick framing is downward which is a compressive strength problem and it only really concerns the wood pieces pressing against each other. all the other loads which can be applied side-to-side are mostly dealt with by the sheathing on the side of the framed wall. the rigid sheet of plywood keeping its rectangular shape while screwed into the framing is what gives the wall strength against these non-downward forces such as wind loads.
>>2952225if they drill a hole first, slightly narrower than the screw thread is wide, it will be ok
>>2952053>tinnitusI got tinnitus while relaxing on the couch drinking a beer.Also, I don't hear it unless someone mentions it. Thanks, fucker.
>>2951569guy in picture is a retard.the plywood is going to have too much flex in that orientation. Better off to rotate his guides 90 degrees and glue a runner on the bottom.
anyone used this before? yay or nay?the traditional ones that you hammer up dont work for me, bench underside is not acessible
>>2952607I was going to say "that's gay, it shouldn't be metal" but then I zoomed in and, yeah, that's wood.I guess it would have to be pretty sturdy wood though.I'm just afraid of accidents with metal things and expensive plane blades and/or table saws.I should look into aluminum screws/bolts since that's like metallic wood.
>>2952607My bench dogs just sit snuggly in the hole. You just pull them out when you don't need them. No tools or anything.
>>2952187did you buy hardware for the back panel
>>2952026he works hard not smart
i want to remove a belly from a plankpass it a few times on this thing it has more pronounced bellywhat causes this? can i fix it or should i just donate this thing to some gypsy for recycling
>>2953253either the machine is not setup right or you press too hard on both ends, flexing the board or pivotingIMO its better to flip it and pass the hollow side over the jointer>or should i just donate this thing to some gypsy for recyclingyes you should
>>2953253i was planning on buying one of these
>>2953990i happen to be a bit of a maestro with the chisel myself...
>>2952607ok, i ordered 3 and tried it out. works fine i guess, the alloy is really soft. Will replace the screw with a slotted one thou
After swearing I wouldn't do it again, I did it again.
>>2954331it's unfortunate chinks have decided to take a loss on these to undercut hobby woodworkers
>>2954373I've only made the two as gifts for family and I don't have any power tools so producing them for profit would not be feasible. For me, woodworking is just a way to get away from modernity.
>>2954378NoiceWoodworking rulz
>>2954378same, i'm just saying the novelty has worn off once the bugman steps in. nice board though. latest thing for me was whipping this up from a scrap after our last holder broke. maple and odie's
>>2954382That's a good idea. I should make one of those from some scrap too. We've just had the roll sitting bareback on the table like animals.
>>2954387i like the simple things that get used daily, my wife doesn't use any of the cutting boards i make because they're "too pretty" despite me repeatedly putting them in the dishwasher to show her i don't care
>>2954382>the novelty has worn offhalf a decade ago.i like pieces like your towel holder more than the latest instagram meme. fills a purpose, resourceful, doesnt wank itself
>>2954393I only made the first cutting board because my sister put one on her wish list and I made the second one because when I showed it to my dad he, for some reason, had to have one too. Personally I like old school joinery. Those cutting boards suck donkey dick to make by hand.
>>2954403yeah they're a pain, i'm waiting for a motor i bought to get here to build my own belt sander. i've liked both your boards though
>>2954405Thank you. I got myself a wet grinder this time because making primary bevels on those thick PM-V11 blades was such a pain that I didn't want to ever sharpen my planes. That, along with judicious use of a scrub plane and much better alignment when clamping, made the second one an order of magnitude easier than the first. Still I hope this is the last one.
>>2954406i generally choose not to torture myself with hand planing unless it's too late to turn my shopvac + wen planer on or it's something simple like a chamfer. i do feel like jesus though every time i use them
>>2954408I can't explain why but I actually enjoy planing. There's something about putting those winding sticks on and seeing the twist, or running them over the surface like a straight edge and seeing the bow, and then slowly removing it that speaks to my grug brain.
>>2952607> anyone used this before? yay or nay?No, but it looks expensive and a bit inflexible (can't move it).>the traditional ones that you hammer up dont work for me, bench underside is not acessibleMake the hole wide enough and you'll be able to pull them out easily from the top. Can be a bit fiddly with the spring ones, though. Also, there are hat shaped bench dogs that won't ever get stuck because you can drill generous holes as long as they're smaller than the "brim" disk. Hell, I've used M20 bolts with two nuts on it as a substitute for these and it works just as well. As for "muh metal": just make sure the dogs are just half the height of the work. If the work really is that thin use an equally thin piece of scrap with thicc wooden dowels drilled through it for bracing against the dog holes.
>>2954409no i definitely get it, when you're in the zone it's an ancestral high. a job that big though i run through the machines and save the hand effort for final details. there is something to be said though picking up a hand planed item vs machined; a spiritual difference of sorts
i dont make complex stuff and dont have actual equipment besides a shitty drill and some bits. but my job lets me make shit out of plywood scraps and occasionally they have maple and hickory bits in the scrap bin. i started experimenting with subwoofer boxes for a 65" subwoofer, just playing with volume and port sizes. i then turned one into a cajon, since it was too large for the little woofer. used back wire from work for the snare, and since it was already tuned for low frequencies, it slams like a kickdrum. i have been making a bunch of these smaller bongo/congas playing with ports. im not professional player by any means but i can teach the basics to my kids and they follow. i also made a small diner dollhouse, it was a hit.
>>2954409I see you’ve been to lee valley. Nice.I like planing too, but I can’t buy that veritas plane and also eat this month.
>>2954526I get that. Thank Christ I bought mine just before the prices skyrocketed.
>>2954411>but it looks expensiveit does but its just 8€, getting it shipped is more expensive than the unit
Does anyone know of a good way to make veneer strips? Picrel was made with a ryoba, but I don’t have anything like that, and then you’d want to sharpen the ryoba… it’s a death spiral.I have a table saw, but the kerf is ridiculous… most of it would be turned into sawdust.
>>2954612you can get a thin kerf blade for your table saw, otherwise find a band saw
>>2954623Second this. A bandsaw is the correct tool for the job.
>>2954623>>2954638> bandsawAhh, yes! thanks. I have picrel saw. I just need to find or make a thin blade for it. Most of my blades are these spiral sharp wire “blades” which are no good for this.I have some mini hacksaw blades with little pins sticking out, which should just about work.
>>2954663Dont bet on it, im pretty sure it wont have the power
>>2954663this >>2954667honestly, from what i can see in your pics of your shop, it seems like you're okay money-wise. hit up marketplace or whatever and find a bandsaw in the loot of some dead boomer. for me in san diego there's a full page ranging from $60 to $1500 and they're all more than capable of doing at least 6" wide pieces of veneer
>>2954912I am not this anon, but I am crossposting his inquiry anyways.
>>2954378> I don't have any power tools so producing them for profit would not be feasible. For me, woodworking is just a way to get away from modernity.Damn. Not sure if I should pity you or envy you!I know it’s kind of a meme, but my cutting board is rather nasty and there’s one crack that some sanding won’t fix, so that would actually be a beneficial project. Plus, my dad has a shitload of well dried cherry and apple wood from our orchards sitting around. Guess it’s on my list after I finally built my work bench and the shelf’s to go above my bed.
>>2950558R8 my table you faggitsJust put the first coat of osma 3032 satin on it
>>2950558I'm planning on building a 8x8 L computer desk. I was gonna rip a 1/2 red oak plywood sheet in half for the top. Im planning on using 1x2 furring strip to make a frame under the top. Surrounding that will be 1x3 red oak board. I will borrow a router and round the edge over. For the legs I'm going to use 4x4 posts. Sound normal? I think it may be over built cause my current computer desk only has a 1/2 top with nothing supporting it in the middle and is ok.
>>2955229pretty fuckin good. what are the legs?>>29552374x4s seem extreme but that's a style choice i guess. 1x3 might cut into your legs depending on how high you sit. what joinery you going with?
>>2955237Youre adding strength in the wrong spots. No table ever collapses through its legs but you need stiff corners and 1x3” is pretty little to act as an apron on 8’ span especially for a half inch sheet
>>2955252>>2955257this is what im planning, so there will legs in the middle too. would anything smaller look spindly? Ive been thinking about the edge and if my legs would fit and it'll work at the height I want i think
>>2955252and the joinery im not sure, if you mean like connecting the top sections I was gonna glue the edge and then under will be a board I will screw both ends down.
>>2955285my computer desk is 8ft long it has exactly one (3x2 cls) leg (and two wall cleats)ideally you want to think more about stopping the leg from wobbling rather than...idk what you think this table will do that it needs so many legs.are the middle legs really necessary? is the internal corner leg really necessary?
>>2955298i dont know lol thats why i was asking. seems like i can make it and then leave those legs out and see how it is
>>2955285dude you are building a computer desk. with the plate at the correct ergonomical height, good luck getting your legs under it
>>2955285i say delete the center leg in the front, make the other legs match, you can add bracing at the bottom to help with racking (or add bottom shelving), switch to 2x2s for the legs and frame and 1x2s for the apron. also 1" for the top
>>2955252Thanks cunt. These are the legs
>>2955377chink shit, great idea. did you rout out a recess for them or bolt them directly on like a fuckface?
>>2955378Routed em out like s good goy
>>2955378Braced em too, theyre sturdy as fuck, cunt
>>2955380nice fucken color choices of hex bolts there rabbi
>>2955382Black on black, gold on timber. Best colour combo ever ya fucken little poofta
>>2955359I was thinking about that a lot I taped a piece of wood to my current desk and it will work for me>>2955375so I will use 2x2s for the legs but im trying to keep costs low. Ive thought about getting 12" boards but the one sheet of plywood is half the price than the boards and I wouldnt have to glue a bunch(I dont really have to setup for this)
>>2955444you're /diy/ing a desk why cheap out? if you upgrade to 1" or 1 1/4" you can pretty much get rid of the reinforcements you're doing
>>2955285>>2955359This guy knows. Most people when sitting correctly have very little space left between bottom of desktop and top of legs. Classic desks would have smaller aprons in the center, nowadays it’s usually fixed by using thin metal instead of thick wood or using H-shape
>>2955496i feel that im already not cheaping out
>>2955444It's a table, not a boat dock.My workbench is LDF face screwed into 2x4 legs with no skirtboards or bracing. It holds bench power supplies, tool kit, solder station, 50 lbs audio units.
>>2955496so I was just sandy cause I just dont have a lot of money. getting hardwood boards would be like 3 times the price as a sheet of plywood so yeah unfortunately I just cant. I was thinking about it and instead of using the furring strip, I looked this up but in my price range I could use 24" wide edge glued board under the plywood. It is 3/4 wide and I could get a 3/4 plywood and then use a 1x2 board to surround it. I think that would be less work, I think i might need the same amount of legs but maybe sturdier?>>2955553it sounds like my current desk, which is alright just too small, I was thinking like that other guy, since im making it I could do a little more
>>2955649My desk is like this because it can be worked on. Any spills of dye, chemicals, burn marks, and scratches don't matter. Make a bench or make furniture. Then treat either as such.
Hello im currently building a desk as a project to spend some more time with my grandfather but im a bit of a sped and am having a hard time figuring out what would be best to use as a topId like to make it instead of just buying a panel because we made the legs, and was thinking of getting some decking and putting the slats together to match the desired depth. What would be the best way to join them all together? I assume just glue wouldnt be enough to support any real weight so should it be done with biscuits or dowels?
>>2954409go do one of these https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02dRX8l9s3U
>>2956027for joining the top to the base or the slats together? glue for the slats, screws for the top->base; lookup how to account for wood expansion
>>2950558I want to build a giant layout table (9' wide x 4' deep x 39.25" tall) capable of storing big stacks of drywall, wood, rolls of hardware cloth, and so forth in my shed. I'm planning on having one platform as the tabletop, one platform on the floor, and one platform in between. I was about to frame this thing like a miniature house using a pile of 2x4s I have but I suspect I may be way over-building this. Any advice?
>>2956028such a comical people, how many committed suicide after their shavings were .0001" too thick?
>>2956038> table, storing drywallOkay, so you’re going to put, say, 10 sheets of drywall on it, and then… what? Lay out where the electrical boxes go or something?… there’s a better way.> hardware clothAs opposed to..?? Software cloth?
>>2950558i want an L shaped desk however i also want it to be regulated up and downi wanted to buy some electric one but then i had idea to just buy/make an L shaped piece of wood and attach legs to themhowever this doesn't solve the regulation so i was thinking about hand crank on one leg with perforated legs that can be held up by pins after reaching desired heightbut that would put the weight on one leg for a timedoes anyone did something like that?
>>2956069>what?It's a general purpose work table and shelving unit. I want to be able to stack a bunch of stuff on/in it while also having a usable table top that I can clear off should a project demand such a work surface.>hardware clothPic related, a type of metal mesh that I mainly use for poultry coops and runs.>… there’s a better way.What would you recommend?
>>2955380what are the braces supposed to do?
Bought me a thing today. Sole is super flat, chisel is in okay condition to sharpen. Should I do anything to the wood handle?
>>2956038Put your drywall on a couple dollies that you can roll out from underneath. Then you only need one actual shelf, if any. Maybe the drywall stack is enough of a shelf.
>>2956439Not really much to do. Coffin smoothers just suck from an ergonomics point of view.
>>2956367Stops racking
>>2956462That's a good idea. I think I'll make the table with one shelf and a platform on wheels on the floor underneath.
>>2956040>nigger can't into perfectionism no surprise there
>>2956667take it to r/woodworking dumb gook
>>2956691whats this place for monkey business?
>>29552298/10 unique piece. that turquoise river resin contrasts beautifully with the deep red wood and gives it a "red canyon" look.
Hey guys, I got an open field in which I can eventually build a shop, but right now I have no money for that. Any advice on maybe setting a temporary shop in it? Maybe getting a circus tent is what I've been thinking. I am fairly open to ideas.
>>2956865Four posts and some G.I. Sheets.
>>2956865>I have no money for that>getting a circus tentI don't imagine those are cheap. What kind of resources are you working with and what are you hoping to do in your temporary shop?
>>2956865if there's trees around you start cutting those down...
i'm tired of all the woodworking channels just being modern form of the home shopping network. even rex kruger is light work scattered between various ads and readoffs. and if not some bullshit attempt to sell me something it's vietnamese "this is so satisfying" attention slop content. what the fuck
>>2954373They can build a few thousand of these a day on wholesale pricing with industrial equipment with labor costs a fraction of US minimum wage. Scale is why they can undercut you.
>>2957173That's what happens if you get dependent on Youtube ad revenue and Sponsorships.
>>2957173The best ones to watch are no voice no face.Are you providing useful info, or trying to be a celebrity? Fuck off.
>>2950558is this honing?
>>2957296No face no voice is pretentious crapthe best ones use youtube like its still 2009
>>2957301Setting. It's adjusting the teeth so they produce the right kerf width.
First project and want to blow my brains out. No thickness planer or jointer so have to measure every shelf and dryfit.150 year old cedar barn boards. Cutting mortice and tennons with a skillsaw is FUN. Gonna put that oak board to the left on the top after.
>>2957296asmr lathefags are annoying as fuck
>>2957316rob cosman comes to mind, something about him using the same pre-recorded ad read is ok with me
i'm still not confident you can work on wood and get money for that it just seems too intuitive and easy i know there are people who get paid to do it but i'm sure 70% of it is just social tactics and skill
i've seen denser carvings than op being sold for a tenth of etsy pricings are they using some kinda machinery to produce copies and tacking them on or something?
>>2957374i don't sell what i make but there's always suckers looking for tables and shit. or take the blackpill and become a cabinetgoy>>2957377probably cnc + dremel
>>2957385what if i just mass prefab them and then just tack them on site
>>2957386i don't see why not if there's a market for it where you are
>>2957387they're probably inferior
>>2957374>i'm sure 70% of it is just social tactics and skillThat's almost every business.
>>2957374There are people who cannot generate pictures in their mind to allow them to woodwork. It's hard for people like us to understand because we've usually been doing it since childhood, but a lot of people genuinely cannot look at a piece of wood and apply a cutting technique to alter it.
>>2957631An old friend of mine would divide people into the categories of "tool users" and "non tool users" when figuring out how to delegate tasks or how to best teach someone a new skill.
>>2950558I'm a trans girl that built a box that made me happy
any laserfags in here? what's your finishing process for engraving?
>>2957350Didnt think of him desu. But at least he is a honest man and only shills for his own stuff. got to respect that
Just start making money first. Then either refine your skills, business sense, or production. Most people can't adjust the doors in their own house let alone carve or make anything.
>>2957631and those people would still earn more money from woodworking or anything than us?
>>2957728you gotta have money to earn money manual labour ain't worth shit you know how they like to boast that it's one of the original industrial arts well that also makes it one of the most saturated and most over-represented everyone and their mother can woodwork theres one on every street corner
>>2957759just imagining your mother woodworking after what i did to her last night...
>>2957720ClearcoatInfillClearcoat
>>2957344> first project> gallon of titebond glue
>>2957823infill with what?
>>2957754No sorry, I'm saying you can still make money wordworking because there are people like that. Like, it's not super easy to pick up, it's not something everyone can do well enough to make it worth showing off, let alone well enough to make it profitable. People will always like wooden goods, anything from ornaments to furniture.
I am new to woodworking. I have this panel made of glued up pine boards, about 1000mm long, 500 wide and 19 thick (around 39", 20", 3/4")I want to use it for the top of a desk, but it is all cupped and twisted. I read something about using water on the cupped sides, tried it and indeed it got flat enough... for a day.How can I make it permanently flat? Should I apply the water and then clog the end grain with varnish or glue or something? I am also thinking of make some grooves with a plunge router to insert steel bars and screw them on, but I am afraid the board will crack as the water evaporates.What can I do?>inb4 using pine for the top of a desk is retarded, just buy plywoodSurely there must be a way to make this work
>>2957846Scrap it and try again, use the flatter parts to make a box or something.
>>2957824Yeah grabbed it from work
>>2957759Craft and knowledge earn. Tools and machines are a requirement, but they don't offset.
>>2951571Yeah I still can't quite understand what kind of warp you're trying to fix even with the drawing. Can you take a photo? If it's the ends that are distorted, lop them off. If it's bowed across the top surface in either direction, struts underneath clamped and glued to bring it back to straight. If the warp is small enough across the shortest top surface and there's enough meat in the thickness, then use a planer/thicknesser to brute-force it back to flat.Too many variables without seeing it to recommend a good fix.
>>2958045no what earns is being able to negotiate and dodge the lowballing or rather aggressively fight it
>>29560382 saw horses and a 3/4in piece of plywood
I want to get started with woodworking to eventually make simple furniture like shelves or desks. I've gotten into enough hobbies to know the curse of buying too much shit and not having enough skill to actually make good use of any of it. What equipment will I realistically need and be able to get good use out of?
>>2958259In general, you need something to cut (saw), something to stick stuff together and make holes (drill), and something to make things smooth (sander). Those three are the most critical items.
>>2958251My current workbench in that shed consists of a handful of pallet boards across two I-beam style saw horses made of 2x4s but saw horse legs are too wide to fit in the space in which I want this table to fit while also being able to stash stacks of 4'x8' sheets under the table top.
>>2958259Rex Krueger's "Woodwork for Humans" series starts you out with a hatchet, a drill, and a hand-saw and builds from there:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLR_8ISkKkV7ky1wbbBUkE3-kwH6LRRWY1
>>2958259how much money are you willing to spend? more money = less effort, less money = more effort (ie hand tools)
>>2958311> something to stick stuff together
I don't have much experience but I want to make a simple table with metal legs and wood top. I'm thinking about getting a edge grain butcher block 6 ft by 25 in the typical counter top material from Home Depot. For the legs, I'm thinking about getting 4 metal hairpin legs about 2 H frame legs at 34 in tall and 24 in long. Are these enough to make the table not wobbly from lateral force? I want to use it for food prep, kneading flour dough for baking and shit.
>>2958389Every once and awhile hot glue can helps me get out of a jam. It's really nice to quickly temp stick.I've seen carpenters use spray adhesive, but it hasn't had great adhesion for me. Silicone takes 30 min and it's too much of a risk with certain unfinished products or even reacting with some clears. I'd love to just shoot brads or pins all the time, but sometimes there's no way to touch up. The hot glue works fast and has minimal clean up. It's perfect for holding while permanent glues set up.
>>2950558
im finally getting on my table project. im using cedar 2x4s for the frame and legs. it smells great my floor is not all that flat so im make some feet levelers. also made a straight edge for the circular saw
>>2958644Are you the same guy that stole a while gallon of glue from work?
>>2958656no but here is a feet pic
almost done, happy so far. I messed up a leg so i ran out of wood redoing it so I still have to put in the diagonals in for the 2 straight sections
>>2958717that door goes to a shared closet lol if anyone wondered why i blocked the door
>>2958717that's nice does it fasten to the wall its not a workbench right
>>2958259buy my handtool lootcrate bro i'll send you some rusty shit
>>2958717>he didn't frame a foldable countertop so he could come out of the closetjust as expected
>>2958767a computer desk and nah I would of liked to connect to the wall but I didn't want to mess with any of that. I noticed the corner legs wanting to splay in or out so these two pieces fixed that. I realized im not really gonna sit in the corner so I could of put a leg there but whatever
>>2958892>im not really gonna sit in the cornerThe thing I like about L-shaped desks is being able to turn from one workspace to the other so having the maximum practical leg clearance in the corner would be nice.
>>2957846You have to completely soak it like you did, I’ve straightened really big pieces of timber like that, if you were to dry it again without any downward pressure being made so the board remains flat it is just going to maintain the same twists and cups as it dries, thats moisture differences inside the wood, the outer edges dry much faster than the inner part.If you do seal the end grain like you want it would help, since it would slow down how fast the end grain dries compared to the rest, but I don’t think it would solve your problem. Search up how people dry pieces of green lumber in mills, it is fairly simple, you create spacers that are tipically ¾-1” thick and 1-1.5” wide, any wider and you get sticker stain, those spacers need to be dry otherwise you will also get sticker stain. You lay these spacers every 12 to 18 inches perpendicular to what you’re drying, try to make at least a few levels/floors of what you’re stacking, you can’t really do this with just one level, the top board being the least important, put some weights on top when you’re finished and wait until its dry.Most of my projects have been outdoor stuff, where there are big moisture fluctuations, after you’ve done this I recommend you use the board immediately, otherwise it can warp if it gets wet again, apply varnish, seal it or screw it down immediately.
>>2957846> I am also thinking of make some grooves with a plunge router to insert steel bars and screw them on, but I am afraid the board will crack as the water evaporates.I know a table maker that does this. But instead of screwing them on he mills T shaped slots in the bottom and slides a T profile in each slot, so it takes up zero space and is supported on both sides But I think you’re right, pine is too soft and soaks up too much water so it’ll break. Just plane the top side flat and seal the wood when dry. It may help to cut it in half lengthwise and join the halves flipped, much less material to remove
>>2958313>>2958259I personally hate hand tools for the most part and wouldn’t recommend it to a beginner, since they are much harder and take too much time to make nice stuff with and honestly could be as expensive or more than a makita or any other power tool. But yeah a good drill is your most important tool, a bad drill will just frustrate you and make you quit the hobby. Aside from making holes you need to something create straight cuts or cuts in angle, a miter saw is easy and cheap enough for a beginner to use and not have to worry about making wonky cuts, a carpenter square and circular saw also work, but they are a level or two harder for a beginner to make straight cuts with. I hardly doubt a beginner can consistently make straight cuts with a handsaw but if you are keen on buy one you should invest more into marking tools so you can draw straight lines into your workpiece and know if you deviated from your cut, just search the types of squares that exist out there, I’d get one that is longer than the workpieces you will work on and a small one like a speed square.If you don’t have any more money to buy finishing equipment you could hand sand but you will want to kys, sanding is the most boring part for most people, a good sander is nice.After you’ve been a while into the hobby you want to get a thickness planner and a electric hand planner, since most lumber is crooked as shit they allow you to fix lumber without having to buy expensive pieces. Something that is really important is drying and straightening wood, I’ve noticed most woodworkers don’t have much experience in this, it is much easier to wait and dry wood properly than to work with/plane a cupped or twisted board, you also waste much less material planing and already slightly straighter board.It can be an expensive hobby obviously, but as you get experience you know which tools to get, which ones you just want and which ones you need.
>>2958892look at those mitres
>>2958951>since they are much harderIn some respects, but self-powered tools are less intimidating and offer fewer ways to seriously injure a novice with zero experience or in-person mentorship. I'd argue there's also less chance of ruining material with hand tools than with power tools.>and take too much time to make nice stuff withGenerally true.>and honestly could be as expensive or more than a makita or any other power tool.At the high end, yes, but not at the low end. Rex offers specific recommendations that are cheaper than a Makita or other power tool. >It can be an expensive hobby obviously, but as you get experience you know which tools to get, which ones you just want and which ones you need.To me this is part of the value in starting with basic hand tools: you learn how woodworking projects work, get a feel for your own interests and needs, and figure out which machines are worth the money and shop space and which ones are functionally gimmicks that you don't actually need for your projects.
>>2955015>everyone says to go through gritsThis is usually correct. If they are worried about material loss it would be best to start with 100 grit, then go to 150 grit. Sanding blocks work best when they have a bit of give. I think someone on youtube cut up an old yoga mat and taped the sandpaper to it with double sided tape. Something like that will be easier on your hands while also conforming to the shape of the wood, particularly if it is convex. Sandpaper can also be wrapped around a dowel for sanding the inside of curves.I've also used a file to file down half laps for a more prefect fit. Files have a handle built in so they are easier to use for some narrow applications than sandpaper.
>>2955015Sanding is a craft. It needs to be done mindfully even if it's tedious. Know how much material you're trying to remove. Know how thick your veneer is. Learn the finishes after each grit of sand. Control the dust and keep your sand cutting as long as possible rather than clogging. Apply even pressure. Don't ease an edge too far. Work with the grain. If you don't progress grits, you're going to cut groves then polish them permanent. Just become the craft and stop fighting it.
Dubai mommy kinohttps://youtube.com/shorts/9c7Kpo7y2fI
>>2957846Use water, then add heavy weights to keep it flat.
I’m looking for a drill stand or other guide specifically to drill big dowel holes (1/2” to 1”) into 4”x4” ish ends. Does anyone have a recommendation that’s not $400, preferably with a 90 degree reference fence. Is there a gold nugget chink one that’s about as good as the woodpecker in pic rel?
>>2959713Milescraft ($50) and Rockler ($150-200, currently on sale) make pretty good ones.
>>2959716Thanks. They sell the milescraft one here but they don’t let you try it, I’ll go with that one then
>>2950558I'm not sure if I should ask this in sqtddtot, but I'll ask you guys first. I want to put together a coffee table as a Christmas gift. I have no experience with woodworking, but my plan was to get a premade bench/table top, stain it, and affix metal legs that I'll fab up and weld together myself. What should I be looking for for the table top? Is there a specific type of wood that makes more sense than others for a living room coffee table? How much should I expect to pay for a 48"x24" top? I don't have much wood working tools, but I do have a circular saw and a router. Do regular lumber yards carry this sort of thing, or is that more of a specific store outside of building materials?
>>2959725Woodpeckers is very much the "boutique brand" of any kind of tool they make. iGaging, Milescraft, Rockler, and now even Wen have good affordable versions of most of the stuff they make.
>>2959725i have the milescraft one it's not bad but the springs have too much tension for some applications and supporting it is a pain when you're drilling close to the edge. i think all of these portable drill presses would suffer from those caveats though
>>2952607I wanna live the doggy-dog lifestyle too!I'd assume some basic doghole gear isn't that hard to fuck up, for a hobbyist level, is it worth going aliexpress for those?Seems like I can only get them "locally" (i.e. online anyways, it's not like my euro-home depot equivalent even sells such a thing) from Bessey or festool, and while they're pretty good (though made in China (bessey) and Vietnam (festool), at leas the normal clamps I have from them), they're not 5x as good as no name stuff I also got.Or is this a thing where you NEED pro-tier stuff?
>>2959803Bottom two are pretty goodTop right you get absolutely awful threads and I havent found them very useful. Also the shoe breaks then you put too much force in axial direction. Top left I haven’t tried. Avoid anything with a knurled round part like pic rel. The walls of the tube are so thin you’ll tear off the threaded part on the first or second use.
>>2959766For example, if I don't have the ability to rip my own planks and glue them together into a table top, does pic related make sense?
>>2959904Sure, but I think most people would find a beech butcher block coffee table boring. They are more often made from tropical hardwoods and shiny, or from slabs of thinner trees. Making good a slab coffee table is more difficult than you’d think so might go with that, or a pre-made slab one. If you get the butcher block be sure to seal it well, the cheap ones often have big exposed blue lines that degrade over time.
>>2959906>Sure, but I think most people would find a beech butcher block coffee table boring. They are more often made from tropical hardwoods and shiny, or from slabs of thinner treesHmm, I'll go to lumber yards and see if they have anything more appropriate. I was just going to stain it and round the edges. This will be replacing a cheap Ikea table.>If you get the butcher block be sure to seal it wellRoger that. Thanks
>>2959904acacia is a nice wood that takes oil well, i think hd carries it in butcher block
Even with 2000grit sandpaper on my random orbital sander I get these annoying fucking scratches on my finishing. How to get rid of and avoid these?
>>2960112Something got under there.Doesn’t look random either.If you’re using fresh sandpaper, you need to apply it to something first to dislodge and big uns.
>>2960112You need to buy the expensive sanding pads, the cheap ones leave those swirl marks
i can't get these fuckin things in rightno matter what position or orientation i slide them in, the 3 screws don't hold the blade in placei can't undo the bottom plate with the 3 bumps that i presume I'm supposed to slide these into, down the divot. every tutorial i saw took apart the metal chassis and just put it back together. but i have to slide the blades in and they're not fitting right. i tried for hoursthey either go in crooked, don't have any blade protruding, have too much blade protruding, or aren't held down by anything and just fall outcan someone draw a very detailed picture of how to get these thingsi have a WAN cheapshit planer
>>2960207why the fuck didn't you spend the extra 200 to at least get the spiral head you're fucked now
>>2960207Don’t you need a planer blade adjuster (or two)? I’ve never tried it without. Also clean the gunk keeping the old blade in pliers
>>2960245another reason he should've just went with the spiral head. a side goes dull you turn it to the good side or get a carbide insert for cheap. self-aligning, better finish, tool is even included on the planer body. fuck blades
any other good woodworking books you fags recommend? focusing on furniture and understanding solid construction. so far i've read:- understanding wood finishing- illustrated cabinetmaking- several books on gustav stickley/mission furniture- chair making & design- wood! identifying and using hundreds of woods worldwide (kind of a waste of money)- the art of coloring wood- graphic guide to frame construction (en route)
so im gonna stain the frame. filled in the visible screw heads and sanded with 150 grit and then 220. im going to apply a stain pre conditioner and then a "dark walnut" gel stain. Ive decided on a plywood oak top but now im on the fence buying the sheet from one of the big 3, they have B2 for $88 or from a local wood supplier that has a1 $150. I looked at some B2 sheets and they looked good but ive never seen a higher grade in person so Im not sure
>>2960382i think either one grade is fine it's more you'll have to do something with the edges ie surround or edge banding. in that case i really don't see a difference other than maple vs birch
its lookin real damn nice and the picture better post right side up this time lol>>2960404im going to cover up the edge either way but i decided on the cheaper sheet
>>2960603
>>2959803>>2959817> Top right you get absolutely awful threads and I havent found them very useful. Also the shoe breaks then you put too much force in axial direction.Seems like a threaded rod and a bunch af low precision aluminum pieces couldn’t be that hard to fuck up. Oh well. Pic related is even cheaper and comes with a ratchet! I guess at that price I could give it a try and the reviews are good, but that mustn’t be worth much. Seems like those are steel which has its pros and cons.
I don't know if it counts as wood working, first attempt at cnc engraving and painting I felt like the last step, painting engraved parts with black, could be improved. First I painted colored bits and then applied varnish. Then I started painting black parts, I was hoping it would wipe off but black color still left some stainsMaybe should have varnish twice, maybe should have waited more for it to dry
>>2960751I asked similar thing elsewhere one time. Heard that it’s a good idea to stick oramask on it, engrave the line work first through the mask and then paint those leaving the rest of the mask on. Or laser cut painting mask from the same drawing. Myself I paint the deeper parts first and then sand it down slightly because I don’t have a laser
>>2960762I tried masking tape on my first attempt. I was thinking paint black parts first, remove tapes and paint the rest. But masking tape just rips off in patches and doesn't really work. Oramask would work better perhaps. Sanding is also a good idea that I didn't think of But problem with painting black lines first is those lines hides the mistakes. I suck at painting so it is inevitable for me to go into grooves while painting colored parts. That is why I wanted to paint lines last. I was expecting to be able to wipe black paint off if I go outside grooves but it wasn't as clean as in hoped it to beMaybe I should have just go for a permanent marker with a thin tip instead of painting with a paint brush.
>>2960775Did you use that generic beige stuff, or proper painter's tape?
>>2960782It is a cheap beige tape. I am unfortunately an extremely cheap person and all my materials and tools are the cheapest of the cheapest
>>2960784There's your problem. Tamiya makes model-sized tape for detail work, and Frog Tape's the best for bigger detail work.
>>2952026is there a pastebin for /wwg/? mind sharing if there is.
>>2950558made a dog bed, enjoyed itthink I wouldn't mind taking up another excuse to practice more carpentry
>>2960907https://rentry.co/4ch-wwgmodify code m:diy
Hey bros, how do you work out/set out a double angle, similar to pic related
I did a thing!Really enjoying those dog holes. I used the cheapest plywood I could get, guess I gotta figure out some kind of surface treatment for that soft crap to make it more durable yet keeping it elastic. Argh, I hate painting and such.
>>2961107i would find out whatever angle you want the legs at and then cut out the top and a mirror cut on the bottom.
>>2961107I do them by finding the lengths I want them them to flare out in both sides and calculate angles from that. It’s more important to make them all equal than to be super accurate on the angle, just make sure the design allows being a few degrees off.
what do you wear in winters in the wood shop if i wear a jacket it gets too hot while working and if i switch to fleece you ruin it with sawdust
>>2961343
>>2961375i said winters
I want to make a ceiling with exposed joists prettier by removing the paint from them. Now I was wondering if I do remove the paint won’t they get damaged by suddenly drying out or taking up moisture whatever? Theyre structural, about 100 years old, and I think they’ve always been painted.
>>2961620If they're that old, stripping the paint and putting a better finish on should be perfectly fine.
OP update.I bought one of these router jigs (i'm the guy who could not make the hobby planer work at all from earlier).i paid 360 euros (probably too much)the result looks really nice great success! the ruler doesn't bounce on the plank when I put it diagonally (assuming the ruler is straight)also i put the ruler and plank in front of the light bulb and there is no light passing between them. (great success)the bad news (for me) is I also bought some 13 walnut planks for 340 euros. 13 PLANKS !! when they arrived i was angry thinking the driver must have messed up or scammed me. (that's 26 euros a plank) I messaged the boss thinking i got scammed or some error was made and he said no, that's how much it is. that's 3 square meters. I think it's over woodsisters ! if it continues like this I don't see how i can continue woodworking. the indian janitor is staring back at me when i look in the mirror.
>>2962065for reference a CUBIC meter of limewood or birch was 400 euros in 2018 when i started.
time..to die (releases pigeon)
>>2960270well you know more than us then so why ask
I inlayed a strip of purple heart into an oak piece a couple years ago. The temperature shifted and gapped out the inlay a lot. Maybe 1/6, maybe 1/8. I ended up filling and staining because I couldn't correct it. I guess I could have ripped strips to fill, but that worries me when the material tries to return to form. The inlay and substrate were perpendicular grain. Are there preventative measures I could have taken on the piece or other work in the future? I think the obvious ones are let the material dry for a long time and don't let finished work get really cold.
if i get a chainsaw can it also be a woodworking tool
>>2962880Yeah nah yeah nah yeah yeah
>>2962880Chainsaw carving is totally a thing. Look into how to do it safely, get protective gear, and have some fun.
>>2962914Church I drive past relatively often. Not as impressively detailed as that bear though.
>>2962918Ceska republika?Slovakia?
>>2962926Denmark
>>2962914Nah nah nah yeah nah yeah
>>2957301>>2957341This, but it's a retarded, "Just beat on it until it works again" approach.A saw set is NOT expensive.There's tons of chinkshit for under $20, But with a little hunting, you can easily find a Stanley 42W "pistol-grip" saw set for that same price...and it will last forever.I never use one, but I have 2 from Granddad's shop. Not the Stanley, but older ones.
It's a big stretch to call this woodworking, but I had some leftover plywood and slapped this together real quick.I'd like to make a face frame, and I kind of want it to be somewhat daft and unconventional. Do you guys have any ideas?The last time I built a quick and dirty shelf like this, I 3D-printed the face frame. It looks goofy, but it worked. It nailed and glued just fine.Sorry for posting gore.
>>2958205the best negotiating tactic is wishing them the best of luck and walking away
>>2958312so get a 5x10 piece of plywood and build a frame under it.
>>2959310>which ones are functionally gimmicksname a single tool that is functionally a gimmick in a finish carpenters toolbag
>>2963357looks like a nice clean job did you use a circ saw or some kinda track one typically i have to straighten the edges with a handplane to make everything meet cleanly it can be a pita
>>2963395yeah but for that to work the negotiator really has to be aware that they are lowballing the person most just feel that's how it's supposed to be because manual labour isn't respected
>>2962939>it's a retarded, "Just beat on it until it works again" approach.doesn't seem like it the set of your saw doesn't have to be clinically set to some precision because it'll get fucked unevenly as you're using it anyway
>>2963400i'm pretty good at what i do (finish carpentry) and i know there isn't much competition so i have my price and if they won't pay it they can pay to do it twice after they hire some hack to come fuck it up
>>2963400>manual labour isn't respectedCorrect. Craftsmanship, however, is. The markup you can charge for something being excellent as opposed to "good" or "nice" is where the money is, especially if you can hook up with a local gallery or something like that.If you spend $600 on the teak for a mid-century liquor cabinet to list on marketplace, you're gonna go broke in a hurry. If you spend $600 on the teak for a mid-century liquor cabinet and get it in front of the kind of people who buy million-dollar vacation homes, they're not going to think anything of forking over $2800 for that same liquor cabinet and they'll probably remember you the next time they want a custom headboard or a new front door.>>2963405Good on you. I hate doing anything installed.
>>2963418it's all the same to normies if you work with your hands you're a labourer >art galleries>million dollaro vacation homerino woooo fancy boy
>>2963428>it's all the same to normies if you work with your hands you're a labourerI realize now that you might be illiterate, so allow me to rephrase: you should strive to sell to people who know the difference between craft and labor.>woooo fancy boyYou're blind. There's always a gallery in the nearest city or vacation spot. Some grandma might spend $1200 on a wooden play table set for their first grandkid. Some uncle might decide to commission an $800 jewelry box as a wedding gift for his favorite niece. Point is, you're almost always within five miles of someone who is willing to drop a few grand on high-quality woodworking and has enough taste to know the difference.
>>2963431try taking out a couple zeros it's wood not gold it literally grows on trees
>>2963439he's right. once you start working for millionaires you can sell nice stuff for a nice profit.t. builds nice houses and does nice finish carpentry work
>>2963402You say that but the set on one of my saws was so out of whack when I got it that I had to grind off an enormous amount from one side. Any time I sawed with it the kerf would drift immediately towards one side, every time. Would have been nice if they'd been more anal about the set at the factory.
If you don't have a Shaper Origin, are you even a woodworker in 2025?
>>2963531
>>2957932Heh, I don't need a box, but I really need a desk. If it goes wrong I can use it for something else later anyway, the top will be screwed on some metal corner thingies, nothing permanent.>>2958946>>2958949>>2959646It seems I can't get the time to complete the entire thing in one go. Had to wet it twice.1st: got the original twist out, cut the sides to length and the chamfers. Ran out of time so left it drying lying flat next to a dehumidifier just to see what would happen. Forgot to put on the weights even though I had them lying waiting right next to it. Regardless, after drying it was much flatter and had actually twisted a tiny bit to the opposite side.2nd: fast-forward to yesterday, I applied a little bit of water again to further improve flatness, clamped it down to the bench, made the grooves with the router and screwed a couple of 8mm thick steel bars on it. It has been 24 hours, what was a twist that raised a corner up to 15mm in the beginning, is now a couple of millimetres at most.Next time I flatten it a bit more with a handplane, apply some anti-mold product, might sand it, varnish and I'll finally have a desk. Let's see how it behaves with the seasons. It will want to expand sideways in the Summer, so it will either get a bit wavy due to the bars limiting the distance between screws, or it will come off the screws. Or maybe nothing will happen.>t-slotsIf it is what I think it is, the board is a bit too thin for those, only 3/4", or 19mm thick.>It may help to cut it in half lengthwise and join the halves flippedI thought about it but the entire board is already 2cm too narrow for my liking, I would lose a few millimetres more.Will post pics when I finally finish the damn thing.
>>2963531that was 2024, now it's that xtool laser welder making its rounds, with bambu still making an appearance at least once in a video. i give this zog a lot of shit but he never shilled the origin
>>2963578To be fair, if you can afford one and have a place for it in your workflow, the Shaper can be a pretty handy and powerful tool. Tamar of 3X3 gets hers out for when she needs to do very precise routing work on a specific one-off thing, especially if you want to design it out in the tool itself.https://www.3x3custom.com/tutorials/angled-box-jointsHis type of work is either custom stuff or mass-produced CNC stuff, like those guitar trays, so he kind of skipped past the Shaper, which is essentially a portable CNC, up to a tabletop CNC.>$6000 laser welderYeah, no, I don't think anybody is seriously recommending that over a good table saw, bandsaw, router table, planer, AND jointer.While a 3D printer can be had for under $300 and crank out a multitude of useful stuff.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59RAkriXEh0
I'm new and retarded. I really want to make this bench https://archive.org/details/the30workbench/Work%20Bench%20by%20Tage%20Frid/mode/1up . I can't find hardwood anywhere in my country that is that thick, will it be ok if I make it out of softwood?
