Chat I want to build a high pressure high temperature water sprayer to use for washing dishes in a way that uses as little water as possible.I have a cabin in the woods which has no sink or plumbing etc so I just haul in water and for a while I just use paper plates and stuff but generating so much trash is retarded.Does it sound like the best way? Like a 7 holed spray nozzle at 150psi and 70c water temp or so is what I was thinking, around the 6L/m mark but if only need a few seconds to spray off the debris and then scrub it and spray another couple seconds idk. Does that sound reasonable? For the hot water I was thinking about building my own instant hot water heating system or just buying one. Also how can I store some water without it going bad?
If you're living in a cabin and the paper plates are getting hauled away as trash then the garbage isn't what is retarded. As for washing dishes pick up a rag and scrub. You wash with a small tub of water and a little unscented dish soap. You can rinse in another small tub but it's wasteful and unnecessary. That's it you just make a little water ho as long as possible, you can even keep a little tub of the same soapy water in the sink for days using it after each meal. If you do rinse collect the rinse water (or save it if you rinse in a bucket to be wash water later. There is a bunch of other camping practices like wiping everything off as you use it, knives and such and wiping out your pan while hot so the sugars don't harden.Your problem is you grew up with a dishwasher and first world plumbing and you never stood over a sink washing dishes so you have this misconception about what's necessary.
>>2953440not too high pres but for starters I'd get one of these, or two so you got soap and rinse.Was using one to keep dust down during concrete cutting and it was very handy for hand washing etc on a "dry" construction site.https://www.homedepot.com/p/Chapin-1-Gal-Lawn-Garden-and-Multi-Purpose-Poly-Tank-Sprayer-with-Adjustable-Nozzle-for-Fertilizers-16144/322891902I plan on a using one for my minimalist camper van for external shower. Maybe even one with backpack straps to carry water if needed and to hang from roof racks outside for showers. Those might have more pressure.I use a normal spray bottle for diluting dish soap. It works better diluted and it much more handy to spray on dishes or sponge without wasting and/or need to dilute.I've also found its great for killing houseflies with tighter spray. I'm not worried about a bit of overspray of diluted dish soap instead of Raid, and its mostly on counters or windows, so it just aids other cleaning. :)
>>2953492PS-also might make a stand alone rolling "sink" with a 5 gal backpack sprayer and 5 gal bucket under.
>>2953493SOLO 425 4-Gallon Piston Backpack Sprayer, Wide Pressure Range up to 90 psiVisit the SOLO Store90PSI sounds like plenty for doing dishes. You'd probably want an outside plastic folding table due to the spray going everywhere.Water in jugs out of the sun normally stays OK forever.These are pretty much the standard, even though they kinda suck and will drip if left on side to dispense water, even if all is screwed closed and spigots inside. Reliance Products Aqua Tainer 7 Gallon Drinking Water Storage Container Tank (4 Pack)
>>2953494you also might consider compressed air with water, depending on your ability to compress air.but DESU, I think your best bet is scraping/licking plates and keeping a 5 gal bucket 1/2 full of soapy water to soak, let drip dry to get as much soap off as possible, then rinse in another bucket of rinse water.Ask in Outdoors forum, too.I recommend these small but long wooden spoons and non-stick cheap 2 quart sauce pan for minimal clean up and eat out of pan.
>>2953440when camping I use sand/dirt to scrub most of the crap and grease off. uses much less water, and you can just throw the waste in the compost.
>>2953495>>2953469These both sound like a lot of wasted water.Currently I just burn trash but I really want to lower my trash generation as much as reasonable. I think that trash generation is tied directly to IQ and I feel like my current situation is very low IQ.I'm not living in it full time, just here and there. But even still I want it to be low maintenance, so if I store like 30L of water under a big tub-like sink outside with the heating unit and pump integrated into a sprayer on the sink I was thinking it would work pretty well.I have tested at home, my usual dish cleaning is that I'm lazy so I do them hours after a meal and so I use a lot of water and scrub it clean whatever, I think that is how most people do it.Well I tested immediately after eating clean it and it was much less water, but I also just tested leaving it on full hot till it reached max temp of like 48°c and that worked well even without scrubbing.So that was mu idea by using higher pressure and heat I can very quickly blast off all of the unclean off the plate or cup using as little as 250ml of water.
>>2953440I used to work at an industrial washing machine company, it sounds a bit retarded indeed. The cycle for a water efficient plate washer is usually first remove loose dirt, wet with soap, leave wet for an hour, wash with pressured recirculating water then rinse once with clean water.If you’re not recirculating water it will never be water or energy efficient, instant water heaters are terrible. Modern consumer dishwashers use 10L/cycle and <1kWh which your pressure wash system will never ever beat > Also how can I store some water without it going bad?Big tank that’s dark inside, with no fresh air flow and lightly chlorinated
>>2953440>>2953692Depends on what you eat, if you leave dried egg yolk on plates, or dried avacado, 150psi won't cut it. If you are that lazy and adamant against changing your personal habits, and absolutely must nigger-rig something to clean dishes, then use a pressure washer, don't use a bitchy little 150psi pump. Since you don't have plumbing I assume you'd be doing it outdoors, which is fine because it makes a huge mess. I know because I plumbed in a pressure washer to my kitchen, with a custom "wand", and it blasts food off instantly, but it made such a mess that I didn't bother to use it. I've since renovated and didn't install it again.If I remember right, my pressure washer was 1800 psi which was overkill. You can get low-end ones like 1000psi thoughYou'll probably still waste water in the end compared to dishwasher, but whatever, deep down I know you just want to blast food off instead of doing it by hand. And that's okay.
>>2953440>Has a cabin in the woods>Wants a high pressure, high temp dish washing systemJust live in the city if you love machines so much
>>2953692Stop being lazy and stop being a retard about waste, corporations are shitting out thousands of times the waste you do and recycling was only ever for profit. You're fucking brainwashed if you think a few paper plates adds up to anything but your own dumb ass misconceptions. Also how does using the same half gallon for 3 days add up to a lot of water usage?
>>2953440high pressure will use way more water than low pressure. hell I can take a complete shower with 1.5 gallons of water.